Wednesday Bird Droppings
by duck on May 26, 2010 7:07 AM EDT
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PrintRecaps of last night's well-played game by the Orioles can be found at MASNsports.com, baltimoresun.com, and The Associated Press.
Post-Game Trembley - MASNsports.com
"I thought there were four at-bats in the game that were key for me - the two guys that walked, and after the wild pitch, the two productive outs." Great. Now he's gonna think sacrifices and hit and runs are good again. There's no such thing as a productive out, Dave. You only get 27. Don't give them away. -duck
Luke Scott updates his shoulder injury - MASNsports.com
Luke Scott injured his shoulder on the same play Alfredo Simon hurt his hamstring, but his injury is much less severe. He was in last night''s lineup, then a last-minute scratch, and won't get a MRI done unless severe pain returns today. -duck
Orioles Insider: Turner to the Mets; Gonzo likely to 60-day DL
Justin Turner was claimed by the Mets while B2B still has an Orioles uniform, and Mike Gonzalez isn't on a fast track back to Baltimore, as he's been placed on the 60 day disabled list. He's eligible to return on June 9, just like Brian Roberts. -duck
Roberts gets go-ahead to resume activities | orioles.com: News
Brian Roberts will finally make that trip to Florida to resume baseball activities. Can't we just say practice? -duck
Orioles pitchers battling injuries - Carroll County Times
It is sort of amazing to read through the list of injured relievers the Orioles have had this year. -duck
2010 Catcher Defense Rankings as of May 25, 2010 - Beyond the Box Score
BtB ranks the best defensive catchers so far this year and Matt Wieters comes in second to Yadier Molina. Not bad. Check out the story to see where he ranks in specific categories. -Stacey
Dave Trembley Managerial Situation - Schmuck
Schmuck returns to being an idiot. "[B]ringing a big-time manager into this competitive environment at this particular point in time would be problematic for a number of reasons, not the least of which is that it's going to be very hard to find one to take the job under the current circumstances. The Orioles have 115 games left and whoever takes over the team is likely to lose a lot more of them than he'll win, which creates the likely prospect of going into 2011 as the returning manager of one of the worst teams in baseball. Um, Peter? Last I checked, manager openings rarely come up for teams that aren't among the worst teams in baseball. You'd have to think that when there are only 6 or 7 managerial changes per year, it's not that hard to find high-profile guys who want to get back in to the game. -zk
New Capital shelves his demons
Larry Bigbie has a new home, playing for the independent league Edmonton Capitals. -Stacey
Camden Depot: What is Kevin Millwood Worth?
Camden Depot looks at what the Mentor could fetch from the Nationals, Diamondbacks, Reds, Dodgers, Tigers, and Angels. -Stacey
IN THE MINORS
Orioles Insider: Minor league game recaps - May 25
Norfolk won as Jake Arrieta dominated for 7 IP, Bowie lost, Frederick won and Delmarva lost, as Mychal Givens went 1-for-2 with a RBI. He wasn't pitching. -duck
Baltimore Orioles prospect Chris Tillman to start Saturday against Toronto Blue Jays - baltimoresun.com
Chris Tillman is expected to start Saturday against Toronto Blue Jays and David Hernandez is shifted to bullpen duty. Diamond Dave is being all sneaky, saying only "[w}e'll get a starter from Triple-A for the 29th. I think that will become pretty self-evident the next day or so." -duck
AND SLIGHTLY OFF-TOPIC
Campers crush Dunbar 27-0 in semis - Cumberland Times-News
Allegany ended the Cinderella run of Dunbar softball in a crushing 27-0 los sin 5 innings. The Campers were subbing for starters by the second inning. Ouch. Dunbar ends their season 17-1 as the first Baltimore City team to win a region in MPSSAA play. -duck
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I agree about not giving outs away, obviously,
but with a runner on third and less than two outs, I’ll always take the sac fly.
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
agreed
gotta get that guy in somehow. sac fly does the trick
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on May 26, 2010 8:34 AM EDT up reply actions
Fully
If I could trade an out for a gauranteed run I’d do it almost every time. It’s giving up out when you aren’t really boosting your chances of scoring that doesn’t sit well with me.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
this.
you could conceivably get 18 runs this way. even more, actually, although it’d be tough.
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
Went to my first O's Game last night
I had a great time. My brother and I were in full Halloween costume. Overall, my thougths are this: I love the fact that the tickets were only $9 dollars. Elvis is universally loved. Rorschach is universally not loved. I wasn’t in my seat for more than 30 seconds when an usher came up to me. He kindly asked me to remove my mask. I said yes without incident. By the time we got to our seats, I could figure out it was a mistake to go the a baseball game dressed as rorschach. Lesson learned. I am getting an Elvis costume like my brother. Anyway, we had a great time and it really helped that the O’s played well enough to beat a bad team.
John S West Jr
by Adam double bubble on May 26, 2010 7:31 AM EDT reply actions
Hahahahaha!!
I was sitting right behind you guys, in the very top row. I saw you come in, and my 1st impression was (with all the high school kids in Section 340) ‘Dude looks like a pedo w/ that trench coat on’. Hopefully no offense taken, you may have had a better reception if not for all the high schoolers around.
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by PBR me ASAP! on May 26, 2010 8:26 AM EDT up reply actions
You are right
Once I had the mask taken off, I felt like a pedo with that trench coat on. My brother didn’t want me to take to trench off because he said he would have felt more awkward. Thanks for noticing. I am online now looking for an Elvis costume. Something with some Orange in it.
John S West Jr
by Adam double bubble on May 26, 2010 8:34 AM EDT up reply actions
The Camden Depot spot was quite interesting
Surprised the Cubs weren’t mentioned though. Seems Andy can always find a trade partner in them, and with Zambrano’’s recent issues they could use some rotation depth.
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I watched the Nats-Giants game last night.
Aubrey Huff was playing left field, didn’t look half bad.
Also, in the fourth inning the Giants had a runner on first and their #3 hitter sacrificed the guy to second. Just as I was thinking how moron it was, Rob Dibble says “whenever your #3 hitter is willing to sacrifice himself in the fourth inning, you have to thank him. That’s a team player.”
The giants did not score, in case you’re wondering.
by Stacey on May 26, 2010 8:47 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Why are you subjecting yourself to more Dibble?
Did you not have your fill of him this past weekend?
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by PBR me ASAP! on May 26, 2010 8:52 AM EDT up reply actions
I don't know.
I just love getting angry at that guy. But the best line was from Bob Carpenter: “who wins tonight might determine which team could sweep the series.” You don’t say!
by Stacey on May 26, 2010 9:03 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Oh, Dibble.
"Whenever your #3 hitter is willing to sacrifice himself in the fourth inning, you have to thank him a crappy offense."
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
LOL it was Freddy Sanchez
So…yeah.
by Stacey on May 26, 2010 9:05 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Oh Freddy Sanchez
truly one of the kings of the .300/.300/.300 line
by kba26 on May 26, 2010 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
A manger would need to be convinced the O's are worth the risk
All the managers since the last time the O’s tried to win. Ray Miller, Mike Hargrove, Lee Mazilli, Sam Perlozzo, Dave Trembley. None of them have had decent teams and all were basically given half-assed support from Angelos on down. They were all pushed out as failed managers, when is was the Orioles system that was the true failure. What high profile guys is going to rush into a situation where it’s not clear what type of support he’ll get? Their desire to manage would have to outweigh the risk associated with getting involved with the Orioles.
If Trembley is canned, I doubt MacPhail will go with an internal option. MacPhail can’t screw this next manager choice up. I’d expect the new guy to have some past association with MacPhail, and MacPhail is able to convince him that he’s here to see this mess through and they will attempt to be successful in the AL East. That’s a lot of convincing to do. If MacPhail really lands a ‘big time manager’ (whatever that means) I’d be kind of optimistic that he got said assurances. Otherwise, the O’s can run anyone out there and repeat the cycle.
meh
MacPhail is able to convince him that he’s here to see this mess through and they will attempt to be successful in the AL East. That’s a lot of convincing to do.
Again, I don’t think that’s much convincing to do, and I do think most guys who managed before have a serious tate to do it again. They expect to deal with institutional problems in the new job. With the pitching coming up on the horizon, plus the 3 or 4 key pieces in place, all Andy has to say is, “Trust me. We said we will buy the bats. We start buying them for real on your watch.”
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
Yeah, you are saying what I said
MacPhail has to instill trust in any new guy.
Andy has to say is, "Trust me. We said we will buy the bats. We start buying them for real on your watch."
Nothing to date indicates this will happen. MacPhail will need to convince the guy this is not just hot air.
Nothing to date indicates it won't happen either.
There was never a plan to buy bats for this year. The plan was to do it when the time was right, and this offseason, by most people’s reckoning, was not the right time to buy long-term bats. It was too soon for the team AND it was a shitty FA market. Why lock up a shitty 1B for several years in 2010, when it won’t make you contend, and when Konerko, Dunn and Fielder are all available next year (among others)?
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
All signs (rumors) point to Dunn getting resigned
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
you're joking, right?
you’re going to predict the 2010-2011 offseason based on rumors in May?
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
Well
That’s why I put the word rumors there. Because they are rumors. However, they are pointing to him being resigned, which means there is a good chance that Washington is at least interested in bringing him back. I don’t see why saying that there are signs (albeit rumors) that he will get resigned by the Nats must be a joke.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
i guess i think there's a difference
between saying,
“there’s a decent possibility Dunn will resign with the Nats”
and
“All signs point to Dunn getting resigned”.
There’s a lot of baseball left, and I don’t believe either side in that deal has an option. If the Nats wind up tanking (quite likely, IMHO) and other teams bid on Dunn’s services, I have no doubt he’ll consider greener pastures.
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
All I can add
is that this is what MacPhail himself said back in ’07:
"A managerial search really backs up your franchise. If you don’t have a manager in place the first day of the offseason, then everything backs up,"
I’m kind of done talking about this whole thing. It’s fucking tired. Does anyone really think that Trembley is the manager for this team, that he’ll be back next year, and that generally the coaching staff is completely set for “The Future”? I don’t think so. It’s like we’re all arguing on the same side for like two months straight. It’s booooooooooooring.
"The wise man saith, 'Put all your eggs in the one basket and--WATCH THAT BASKET.'"
There is absolutely no way his contract gets renewed.
If Andy has someone in mind who’s available, you might as well hire him now. Otherwise, just let the lame duck finish out the season.
I came to camdenchat and all I got was this lousy avatar.
It tonight's game Nolan Reimold mini bobble night?
Just checking, cause unfortunately I can’t make it to the game… :(
Yep.
And unfortunately, neither can he.
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
Lol.
That almost makes me feel bad for him. Almost.
Insert something witty here.
by Knubles and Bits on May 26, 2010 11:42 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
allegany is my home school.
graduated from there in 05.. glad to see we still dont suck at sports..lol
It’s the Ric Flair Theory of baseball – To be the man, you gotta beat the man. -duck
by Parkinglotninja on May 26, 2010 9:54 AM EDT reply actions
REIMOLD?????????
Reading between the lines, Nolan Reimold was removed from the Norfolk roster last night. Why? Is he injured? No real reason was given. What’s up?
That would explain why he hasn't been playing well
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
if you had a crazy ex-gf after you
you’d probably suck too
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on May 26, 2010 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions
Oh
I was saying if he’s pregnant that might make him suck.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
I was thinking
He probably had to DH all that time because he couldn’t make it an inning in the field without having to pee.
must have been difficult to run too
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on May 26, 2010 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Balkin' Bob Davidson making himself the center of attention last night
Someone from the league office needs to remind this dude that people don’t come to ballgames to watch him umpire.
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Heh
maybe there are umpire groupies who follow like Joe West or CB Bucknor around to all of their games.
"The wise man saith, 'Put all your eggs in the one basket and--WATCH THAT BASKET.'"
I'm a huge Rich Garcia fan
"Hey Yankees... you can take your apology and your trophy and shove 'em straight up your ass!" --Tanner Boyle
by BirdFanInPhilly on May 26, 2010 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions
Eric Gregg!!! FTW!!! (and RIP)
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by PBR me ASAP! on May 26, 2010 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions
Obviously, Ozzie Guillen is not one of those groupies....
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by PBR me ASAP! on May 26, 2010 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Via the "Adam Jones" FB page:
Wanted to take time to thank everyone for their continued support. It has been a struggle for the Orioles this year and we are looking forward to turning things around. Again, thanks! See you at the Yard.
from “Adam Jones”…
b dot o, but i know that i flow rack them up knock them down dominos
by WestcoastO'sFan on May 26, 2010 12:24 PM EDT reply actions
Mk
I wasnt sure, you never know with these internets.
b dot o, but i know that i flow rack them up knock them down dominos
by WestcoastO'sFan on May 26, 2010 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, he started it last year
It was verified by Roch and Schmuck and such. I don’t think he updates it much now that he’s on twitter though. I honestly don’t pay much attention anymore, though.
because he's not adorable enough.
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
you're so lookist.
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
start by not swinging at pitches 20 ft out of the strike zone
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on May 26, 2010 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Camden Depot is like the anti-Drew Forrester.
I came to camdenchat and all I got was this lousy avatar.
BREAKING NEWS
Luke Scott has won the 2nd annual Orioles cook off with his surf and turf. (per @BirdlandInsider)
as expected
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on May 26, 2010 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions
thank god that's settled...
i hope brandon snyder makes it one day so HE can enter. i hear he likes to cook.
"If they pitch to you, make them pay."
--Diamond Dave to the Phenom
by j.q. higgins on May 26, 2010 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions
i'd love to an o's vs. fans iron chef next year
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on May 26, 2010 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions
nah
luke uses only the finest cuts of meat. steroid and chemical free!
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on May 26, 2010 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions
I didn't realize that Luke hurt himself on the same play as Simon.
How often does that happen? And an Orioles win may well have been the third casualty.
I know Luke will likely be back soon (tonight?), and getting Simon on the DL is almost a positive thing, but what a terrible thing to have happen. And on a routine out at first!
MLB shop is really pissing me off.
I ordered a Brian Matusz jersey two fridays ago, and it’s till yet to come here. hey say it’ll take 7-10 business days, which is still in the range of my order, but that’s not really what irritates me. A normal order takes 3-5 biz days to arrive, but a custom jersy takes 4 days longer to be shipped, do you really need an extra four days to have someone stitch Matusz 17 on to an Orioles jersey? They also claim you can track your order using a code, I tried using that code on UPS’s website (whose MLB.com’s shipper) and it didn’t work. For all I know, the Matusz jersey might not have ven gotten into the truck. Nice job MLB, real nice job.
Everyone thought Baltimore was three easy wins and we got our ass kicked three times. - Dustin Pedroia, After the Red Sox got swept by the Orioles.
by BaltimoreSportsFan on May 26, 2010 3:37 PM EDT reply actions
that happens with everything
i ordered a used DVD on amazon and i got the confirmed shipping notice by the second day like you’re supposed to if you’re selling stuff. its been over two weeks and i still dont have my item. however, amazon gives the stuff like 3 weeks to ship though, so they still have all next week. as someone who sells quite a bit of stuff on amazon, that time to ship isn’t bad, but its completely unnecessary. i ordered something today and the estimated delivery day is june 21st which is totally ridiculous.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on May 26, 2010 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions
How long since you've gotten the UPS code?
It often takes a day, or a little more than that, for them to get into the system.
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
last checked the code on monday.
Everyone thought Baltimore was three easy wins and we got our ass kicked three times. - Dustin Pedroia, After the Red Sox got swept by the Orioles.
by BaltimoreSportsFan on May 26, 2010 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions
The funny thing...
… about those four “at-bats” that Trembley mentions is that technically, none of them are at-bats, as they were walks or sac flies. (Though for whatever reason, sac flies do count as an 0-1 for OBP purposes.)
Not that I’m singling out Trembley. Everyone in baseball seems to do this, instead of saying plate appearance.
"plate appearance" is a bit of an awkward mouthfull
"The wise man saith, 'Put all your eggs in the one basket and--WATCH THAT BASKET.'"
Reimold "Inactive" and replaced on Norfolk's roster
I asked a question 5 hours ago as to why Nolan Reimold is not on Norfolk’s active roster and only got smart ass answers that he is pregnant. Danny Figeroa replaced Reimold on the Norfolk roster yesterday. I’m simply asking why? Is he injured? Did he quit? What’s going on?
His ex-GF just had their kid.
There is a tremendous amount of ancillary drama w/ his ex. He is going to go see his kid and deal w/ some of the other drama-related shit.
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by PBR me ASAP! on May 26, 2010 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions
They weren't trying to be smartasses.
Reimold had a lot of drama going on. He was engaged to be married, with a pregnant fianceé. He broke up with her back in March weeks before the wedding, changed his phone number and everything. I believe the rumor was she was cheating on him. Anyway, she was due in May, and I believe is having/just had the baby now, and so Reimold was excused from baseball.
and here's a
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
Your question got answered
Maybe you should look into was is said a bit more before saying people only gave you smart ass responses.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
It's friggin hot outside. I need a beer...
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got one
in fact, got many. i need to kill off all of my alcohol before i move out and i have a lot of it.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on May 26, 2010 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions
I remember doing the same when I graduated. Good times.
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by PBR me ASAP! on May 26, 2010 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions
except almost everyone has already moved out
i just happen to have an apt with a lease that ends later.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on May 26, 2010 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions
No Nick tomorrow
They are inducing his wife into labor. What is it with the babies all of a sudden? Guess we’ll be seeing AJ, Corey, and Luke/Lou (probably Lou… ugh) tomorrow.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
babies EVERYWHERE
"The wise man saith, 'Put all your eggs in the one basket and--WATCH THAT BASKET.'"
Wrap it up fellas
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by PBR me ASAP! on May 26, 2010 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions
nick's wife is having another baby?
didn’t they just have a kid right before last season?
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on May 26, 2010 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions
The season ended?
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by PBR me ASAP! on May 26, 2010 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Actually, that's wrong....
The O’s season ended in August last year
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by PBR me ASAP! on May 26, 2010 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions
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