OT: World Cup Gamethread: England vs. USA, 2:30 (ET), ABC
by zknower on Jun 12, 2010 1:41 PM EDT
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I follow football casually, but not well enough to be able to extensively preview what will be a crucial game for the US side in kicking off Group C for the World Cup.
I do know that the Yanks are favored to advance out of Group since, apart from England, our competition are the lesser powers of Algeria and Slovenia. But upsets happen in WC competition all the time, and a determined underdog who slips in an early score can shift to strong D for the rest of any game and make it much harder for a supposed "favorite" to advance.
For this reason, today's match against our former colonizers can be seen as a bellwether for the USA's chances. If they can come out of it with a draw, they're in the driver's seat. If they actually manage to beat the Three Lions, they would have to implode spectacularly to not make the second round. But if they lose today, they would likely need to beat both Algeria and Slovenia to advance, and while that shouldn't be a problem, you just never know. The US team has been inconsistent in recent years, playing up for big games, but looking listless in less crucial matches. Critical to their chances today will be stopping English striker Wayne Rooney (or enraging him to the point he gets a red card).
The revenge factor may motivate the US: in the 2002 World Cup, they made the quarterfinals and dominated Germany for much of their quarterfinal match before succumbing 1-0. Hopes were high for the program after that victory ("US soccer has arrived!"), but the US had a very disappointing cup in 2006, going winless in the first round and failing to advance. Assuming the US gets out of Group this year, there is a decent chance they would face Germany in the 2nd round.
England are 3-1 favorites in the Vegas odds.
For more on previewing this match, I refer you to a good article in the WaPo, as well as this brief write-up from . Excerpt below:
Since England hosted and won the FIFA World Cup in 1996, they are yet to stamp their authority on the game gain as its rightful inventors. A part from that first and only world cup triumph, they best they’ve managed since then was a semi-final berth in 1990. With a history of always crashing out at the quarterfinals stage at the hands of team that play a more skillful and beautiful football, the English team will be hoping to make an easy win of the US which has a similar style of play to their own.
Or, if that doesn't grab you, you can just read about Footie Booty (sex and the World Cup).
UPDATE: How remiss of me. SBNation, of course, has lots of stuff on this game. View it here.
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USA 3 England 2
Double from Rooney, goals from Dempsey and Altidore, winner from Herculez Gomez in the ’82
Starting US Lineup
…………………..Altidore………..Findley………………..
Donovan………………………………………….Dempsey
……………………Bradley………Clark…………………
Bocanegra…..Onyewu………….DeMerit…..Cherundolo
…………………………….Howard………………………….
Starting England Lineup
……..……..…..Rooney………..Heskey…………………..
Milner………..Gerrard………..Lampard………..Lennon
Cole…………..Terry……….…..King…….……..Johnson
………………..………..Green………..………………….
where the fuck is this game?
ESPN is showing me college baseball
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
ABC
Baltimore is Baltimore. That's kind of what I know. - Manny Machado, 6/7/10
by Eat More Esskay on Jun 12, 2010 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions
thanks.
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
I have to say
when McDonald’s is having a summer World Cup promotion instead of NASCAR, then yes, soccer has arrived in the US.
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
I wish I wasn't working today
I don’t follow soccer that much, but love the energy of the players during the world cup. Have to think the Brits are going to win today though. But go USA regardless!
Librarians are hiding something
Since I'm guessing kba26 might know the answer...
Why’s their midfield along one line and ours is split 2-2? Style of play?
Baltimore is Baltimore. That's kind of what I know. - Manny Machado, 6/7/10
by Eat More Esskay on Jun 12, 2010 2:15 PM EDT reply actions
every world cup, teams break out all these different line styles
you see 1-5-4, you see 4-4-2, you see 3-2-3-2. it’s wild.
in the old days, it really made a difference, because it wasn’t as easy to scout other teams, and you could surprise your opponent by arriving at the WC with a new formation.
nowadays, you can’t surprise anyone, so it’s about style of play.
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
Left right after i posted the lineups
Gerrard and Lampard are more true center midfielders, while both clark and bradley are more holding/defensive midfielders. They play a little bit deeper so it shown on a different line. If you wanted to be consistent, you could add in a few more lines so that you could superimpose them.
hey, vuvuzelas!
what a surprise.
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
those little kids look happy
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
FUCK
that was way too easy for them
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
that was a nice chance.
good to see the US staying aggressive
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
JESUS, too close
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
i'm guessing everyone else is in a bar?
or are there lurkers here….
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
In the house. Not much to say - you've got it covered!
Baltimore is Baltimore. That's kind of what I know. - Manny Machado, 6/7/10
by Eat More Esskay on Jun 12, 2010 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions
i'd like some O'sFan21 in here. ;)
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
The O'sFan21 take...
“Fucking dogshit team. I can’t believe I love this country. Fuck.”
Baltimore is Baltimore. That's kind of what I know. - Manny Machado, 6/7/10
by Eat More Esskay on Jun 12, 2010 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions
aha perfect
you could be his doppelganger
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
US
still too much standing around on possession. not enough cutting and creativity
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
YEAH!
YELLOW YOU LIMEY
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
BUSTED
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
yikes.
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
whew. he's okay.
that would have been a loss.
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
i love that football is sporting
US out ball to stop play, and then england gives it to them on restart.
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
england really plays a strong offsides trap
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
no other players attacking on the counter
whre the fuck was the 2nd line?
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
Lollygagging!
It’s catching from the Orioles.
Baltimore is Baltimore. That's kind of what I know. - Manny Machado, 6/7/10
by Eat More Esskay on Jun 12, 2010 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions
GOOOOOALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
Baltimore is Baltimore. That's kind of what I know. - Manny Machado, 6/7/10
by Eat More Esskay on Jun 12, 2010 3:10 PM EDT reply actions
GOOOOOOAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
GOOOOOOAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
GOOOOOOAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.
that's the weak England keeper for you!
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
If we go into the half with a draw, that's a HUGE victory
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
Yesssssssssssssssssssssss
"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.
hahahaha green
nice goal dempsey
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
oh and fuck wayne rooney because he's a huge fucking tool
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
Well right now my 1-1 draw pick is looking good.
"There's rock bottom, 50 feet of crap, then the Orioles."-Stacey
by BaltimoreSportsFan on Jun 12, 2010 3:24 PM EDT reply actions
I have to say
the vuvzelas are really fucking annoying.
So you can make a loud noise for 90 minutes? Who gives a shit? I’d much rather watch players that can communicate with each other than hear deafening cacophony for the entire match.
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
FAIL
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
WHAT A SAVE!
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
That was clutch.
"There's rock bottom, 50 feet of crap, then the Orioles."-Stacey
by BaltimoreSportsFan on Jun 12, 2010 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Whew!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.
great D on the wing
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
FUCK YOU CARRAGER
YELLOW
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
Frickin' dirty play!!!!
"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.
Englad is starting to FREAK
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
yellows everywhere
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
ahhhhh missed opportunity
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
whew. bullet dodged
US D is a sieve
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
oh man,
US knows they can put it in now. pressure’s on the brits
US should put in fresh legs
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
Whoa, that replay of the off-the-goalie-then-post sequence makes me go aaaaarrrrrgggghhhhhh
"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.
no one following to put it in
no nose for the goal
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
GREAT D, finally
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
If Rooney is 6'2'' he scores there
"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.
FUCKING CALL IT REF!
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
Saaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaave!!!!!!!!!!!!
"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.
TIM HOWARD = MAN OF THE MATCH
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
No question about it.
"There's rock bottom, 50 feet of crap, then the Orioles."-Stacey
by BaltimoreSportsFan on Jun 12, 2010 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions
US just needs to go all in on Defense now
England is pressing pressing pressing
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
USA! USA!
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
Shut up rooney, you big diva
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
TAKE A SHOT HOLDEN!
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
USA USA USA!!!!!! DAmn good draw!!!!
"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.
And I win a bottle from our sports editor, hee-hee!
"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.
DRAAAAWWWWWWWWWWWWW!
YES!
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
Ill take a draw.
This gives us a chance to come out of the group stage as the #1 from our group which means no Germany (hopefully) in the first round of elimination.
Insert something witty here.
by Knubles and Bits on Jun 12, 2010 4:31 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
England will defeat Algeria and Slovenia
We’ll need to defeat them both as well. And the final games are simultaneous, so both sides will be tracking the other match to see what the goal differential is.
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
Right
But this gives us a chance. A loss would have meant no better than second.
Insert something witty here.
by Knubles and Bits on Jun 12, 2010 5:12 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
unless green gave up many goals against one of slovenia/algeria and they beat the other ;)
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
My friend just wrote on FB: "USA defeats England 1 - 1!!! "
Perfectly said.
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
Awesome draw
What an awful mistake; Robert Green will never live that down. You know when Calamity James is the most stable keeper on your roster, you might be in trouble.
Hey England! SUCK IT!!!
"This was, in fact, a win. A huge win. Tying mighty England on the first night with two winnable games ahead was actually good. And as if to prove it, the English players sulked off the field as the Americans turned and walked – many now shirtless – toward the sections of United States fans in the stadium and applauded them.
Suddenly a party broke out.
Fans in red-white-and-blue top hats hopped in place. American flags twirled in the sky. A chant broke out: "USA. USA. USA."
All around outside the stadium the celebration raged. The stadium announcer said goalie Tim Howard was the player of the match and the U.S. fans began to chant his name. They sang songs. On a staircase below Block 210 a group of Americans donned 3-corner hats, dangled a "Don’t Tread on Me," flag from the railing and hollered at the crowd below.
And beneath them Americans began to gather, laughing and pointing. It was all so huge."
"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.
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