Bad. Mets 3 - Orioles 1
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jun 12, 2010 10:35 PM EDT
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PrintThe good, Brian Matusz pitches 8 strong innings, Nick Markakis had two doubles. The bad, the Orioles score only one run through 9 innings, despite getting two more hits then the Mets. The ugly, in a tie game, Julio Lugo fails to make a good return throw on a double play, resulting in a run (earned) and leading to a 2-1 Mets lead. Had the game remained tied, who knows what happens. Had Scott Moore been at second base, who knows what happens.
Nick Markakis had the lone RBI, whilst the Oriole offense was a grand 1-10 with runners in scoring position.
There honestly is very little to take away from this game. Matusz lowered his ERA from 5.10 to 4.92. With his recent work, plus what Tillman did last time out and with Arrieta. The "Big Three" is just about the only thing keeping my attention. The offense is a tragedy. The 7,8, and 9 hitters in the lineup today had AVG.'s of .200, .210, and .220 to finish the game, that's awesome. Now, The Orioles have lost 14 of their last 16 game, Juan Samuel is 2-6 and we have a grand total of 17 wins.
In other news, Alfredo Simon will return as the closer while David Hernandez will become the setup man, thanks for that Juan.
On Sunday, Mike Pelfrey will pitch against the win less Kevin Millwood, who is just hoping to pitch well enough that some other team decides they want him, and hey, they can have him too. Let the good times roll.
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We should just sign Carlos Delgado. Put him in as a permanent DH instead of this plan of having both Wieters and Tatum in the line up. I mean it can’t really hurt us. We could even put him at 1st and move Wigginton to 2nd… I dunno, maybe I’m just looking for something to talk about.
"If I was being paid thirty-thousand dollars a year, the very least I could do was hit .400." - Ted Williams
2010 is over, it's just a training ground now
the future’s pretty much all we got, and even it’s almost entirely wrapped up in 3 talented but unproven young pitchers that may or may not all work out. matt riley, anyone? actually, I could go down a list.
if our young hitters don’t return to form next year, though, we’re screwed regardless of how well the young pitchers pitch.
and does anyone have faith anymore that macphail can fill in the gaps with quality free agents? bullpen, entire infield if roberts can’t recover? no, me neither.
RE: Matt riley
He also had his arm abused to the fucking moon. 188 IP as a 19 yr old? Fact of the matter is that the Os abused their farm system arms from like 98-2002 ish. I remember reading an article on it once. The farm system in general was so completely mismanaged that they had injuries left and right. If you check out their stats, they had 18-22 yr old kids throwing 125-170 IP/yr nonstop. That’s why we had like 5 TJ surgeries in the minors in like a 3yr span on top of other countless arm injuries.
By contrast, Tillman has barely topped like 115ish. Look at King Felix (who I might mention has a body much better suited to handle a workload), he only threw 91 IP when he was 19.
I have faith in AMP as long as he picks the right manager (Hi Bobby V.). That and to gut the team of these veteran scrubs that have no business being in the majors anymore.
the same veteran scrubs that he signed to begin with? in the meantime, we select highschooler hobgood who’s still in low A while a couple picks later the reds take Leake who’s 5-0 with a sub-3 era in the bigs.
look, i’m not ready to fire the guy or try mike flanagan all over again (third time a charm?), but he’s made his fair share of mistakes.
You think angelos woulda coughed up Matzek money?
I don’t. He was the one we shoulda taken. I’ll wait and see on hobgood, he is afterall 18.
by GeoffreyA on Jun 13, 2010 3:32 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
they drafted/signed wieters whom a couple teams passed on due to money, and drafted machado who has similar demands. why take a year off in between unless you truly believed hobgood was better (and in which case you need to check your scouting)? maybe 5 years from now he will be better than leake, but that’s a development phase where a lot of things can go wrong compared to a guy all but major-league ready.
Wieters vs matzek
HS pitcher vs college catcher. Last year, a lot if ppl liked matzek only to strasburg. Leake made it to the majors before strasburg, matzek, and chapman to name a few. I hardly concerned with one hot starting rookie.
by GeoffreyA on Jun 13, 2010 8:06 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Yes!!!
"There's rock bottom, 50 feet of crap, then the Orioles."-Stacey
by BaltimoreSportsFan on Jun 13, 2010 5:49 AM EDT up reply actions
I wish Andino would do something to make this an issue
As much as I hate Lugo, I cant see how you can make that move
cut lugo, cut atkins, regret not signing beltre instead of atkins/tejada, regret not signing adam dunn a couple years ago, regret signing mike gonzo instead of trading for soriana as the rays did, or at least signing gregg, regret pushing brian roberts and bergesen too soon from injury…
i dont know that we’d be a winning team, but we’d be better than 17 wins.
given the choice between the dreadful orioles and very good sox, i wouldn’t have either. but was he even given the choice? everyone was concerned about his offense, but the guy can field with the best — not something we’ve ever been able to say about miggy. and atkins, well.. what CAN he do?
He took LESS money from Boston
than other offers on the table.
When you watch the Orioles every night, a beer after dinner turns into a six pack WAY too many times. Stacey
What's the point of talking about all the things we regret?
Rub some $100 bills on it, you sell-out. -duck
you’re right, we should just stop discussing anything here b/c it won’t result in anything. my bad. let’s shut the place down.
No, but let's talk about things they could actually do.
Rather than talking about things they maybe should have done over the last 10 years. The list is endless.
Rub some $100 bills on it, you sell-out. -duck
the last 10 years? everything i mentioned aside from dunn were things from this past year. i don’t have a problem with looking forward, but it’s not always a bad thing to look back and see where things went wrong. and as bad as things have been, they’ve gotten way worse this year.
besides, what can they actually do at this point? trade a few vets? maybe, but they won’t get much. drop lugo for andino? what does this accomplish? they’re both terrible, are paid the same (lugo makes his money from the bosox still), and are going nowhere.
Yeah
but the things you mentioned have been discussed to exhaustion here.
What can they do at this point? Exactly what he suggested – release Lugo and Atkins and see what some other people can do.
Nobody is suggestion that they do things to try to compete this year, but they can do things to stop getting worse and at least begin moving towards the future.
Rub some $100 bills on it, you sell-out. -duck
and i agreed they shld cut lugo and atkins
why do you insist on brow-beating a fellow diehard o’s fan? just b/c i haven’t read every post on this blog? the fact it’s been discussed indicates to me that’s it’s not an unworthy topic, just one you’re tired of.
I mean the post that you were responding to
was a suggestion about something that can be done right now. Not complaining about things that should have been done over the years.
Rub some $100 bills on it, you sell-out. -duck
on the plus side,
I’m feeling really good about our SP for the rest of the season. Too bad everything else sucks.
I came to camdenchat and all I got was this lousy avatar.
Why does losing a series to the Metzzz seem even more embarrassing than losing one to the Gnats?
Wow, baseball is even harder to understand than I thought.
"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.
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