Padres 3, Orioles 2: I hate them more today than yesterday
by Stacey on Jun 19, 2010 1:50 AM EDT
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PrintThis game can pretty much be summed up with two pictures. Do you agree?
The end results don't really show it, but Brian Matusz had some troubles tonight. For some reason he pitched tentatively to start the game and threw way too many pitches. But he was effective, giving up just one walk and four hits through the first five innings. In the sixth, Chris Denorfia led off with a single through the hole on the right side and stole second. Adrian Gonzalez then hit a ball to deep center field. Adam Jones appeared to get there in plenty of time but...well I don't know what happened. He overran it and twisted around and completely botched the play (see the picture above). Gonzalez ended up on second with a double and Denorfia scored the only run Matusz would allow on the night. Matusz retired the next three hitters, and at 114 pitches, he was finished after six innings. His final line: 6.0 IP, 6 H, 1 ER, 1 BB, 4 K.
The O's offense scratched out 2 runs on 8 singles and David Hernandez came in to close it out in the 9th. Obviously that didn't happen. He walked the lead off hitter, then Jerry Hairston singled, then he misplayed a bunt to load the bases with none out. Well done, David. he struck out pinch hitter Nick Hundley for the first out, then David Eckstein stepped to the plate and, using his grittiness and nothing else, singled in the tying run. With that single the Orioles blew their 12th save on the year, which as you can imagine leads the major leagues. With one out and the bases still loaded Ty Wigginton made a really fantastic stop at first and threw home for the second out, but it didn't matter because Adrian Gonzalez was the next batter and he immediately singled to right to win the game for the Padres.
Tell me you expected something different.
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So I asked last night . . .
if maybe Jones shouldn’t go back to the minors for a while. WestcoastO’sFan said no, just a day off and a new hitting coach. Nobody else responded.
I know it’s a moot question, because who are you gonna replace him with, Matt Angle? But if there was somebody even remotely capable of playing in the major leagues, would people want to send Jones down until either his hitting or fielding is better than replacement level?
"MONTANEZ: Alas! I cannot hit. Deal with it."
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It's a thought.
He could probably use the slap upside the head. I can’t see it happening, though, let alone before Pie gets back.
I really don’t want to be trashing him, but it amazes me how much he seems to get away with. Maybe Samuel will be better about it, but Trembley used to call out Felix every time he made a mistake, but never had anything to say about Adam. I don’t care that he’s been to an All-Star Game (as the pity pick) or won a Gold Glove (which he didn’t really deserve).
Who knows, maybe he’s really working on this stuff, and he’s just lapsing back into poor habits when it’s game time. But, you know, when people like Luke and Nolan are struggling, we hear about how they’re taking BP and watching video until they have blisters and bloodshot eyes. We don’t really hear that kind of stuff about Adam, do we?
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
For what? To work on defense?
He’s hitting ok finally now (although he’s in a mini-slump again). Just have him out there every day taking extra flyballs and he’ll pull his head out of his ass. Then if he’s still sucking put Pie in CF when he’s back and let AJ play LF.
Rub some $100 bills on it, you sell-out. -duck
Hell yeah, to work on defense.
His hitting really wasn’t ever special, and if he’s average or below average on defence . . . he’s not a major league player.
"MONTANEZ: Alas! I cannot hit. Deal with it."
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Ehhhh
Why does he need to go to the minors to work on fielding? Do it every day before games. It’s not like hitting where the pitching is worse in the minors and you can slow the game down and work on things. Defense is defense.
Rub some $100 bills on it, you sell-out. -duck
It's more a matter of pride.
I want to hurt his pride, but while still giving him regular playing time. I guess that’s risky, but Jesus, with the number of outs he makes at the plate and doesn’t make in the field, it’s like he’s being bribed by every team they play. (.281 OBP: that’s disgraceful. And it hasn’t really gone up when he “got out” of his slump. What actually happened is his BABIP went way up, then came back down to normal.)
"MONTANEZ: Alas! I cannot hit. Deal with it."
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That doesn’t make much sense to me. He’s the best option we have, so they should just be making him work his ass off before every game to get better. I don’t want to fucking see Lou Montanez out there.
Rub some $100 bills on it, you sell-out. -duck
Me neither.
I would much rather see Pie, although he’s still working on growing a back.
But yes, I guess I didn’t answer the question well. He clearly needs to work on his fielding and his batting. For batting, in particular, he needs to take walks more than 3% of the time. Like, way more. He needs to swing at fewer than 39% of balls. He needs to harden the fuck up and take some pitches.
But I guess it doesn’t make sense for this team to send him to the minors. They obviously don’t have anyone pushing for his job.
"MONTANEZ: Alas! I cannot hit. Deal with it."
-Eat More Esskay
If you want to hurt his pride
Make him play every single ball of batting practice as if it were life and hit him 200 fungos every day on the field.
Rub some $100 bills on it, you sell-out. -duck
I didn't catch the game
but I see from the gamethread that one of the O’s laughed during a postgame interview. Who was it?
I ordinarily forgive athletes this sort of thing, because it all means much more to us as a rule. Or it’s different for us— I think for them it’s a bad day at work.
Under the present circumstances though, I’m not feeling super-forgiving. You just can’t laugh it off when you’re an embarrassment.
"If you had Steve Trachsel's stuff, you wouldn't want to throw it either." -- Joe Angel
by Fear and Trembley on Jun 19, 2010 1:40 PM EDT reply actions
CENTER FIELD
I grew up watching Paul Blair…Adam Jones is one of the guys Markakis was talking about not having a clue…in the field as well as at bat…A real manager would sit him…a real general manager would drive him to Norfolk in his own car…this is really getting ridiculous…this dude may need glasses!!!
True things.
But please note, one period followed by a space will suffice.
"MONTANEZ: Alas! I cannot hit. Deal with it."
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A real manager would sit him
Sit him for who exactly? As much as I’m upset about Jones’ performance, I’m not a fan of any more that puts Lou Montanez back on the field.
*for whom
sorry, I can be something of a grammar nazi.
we could move corey to center (you know, cause he’s such a great player), move scott back to left field, and DH… whom? Atkins? That’s almost funny.
That looks pretty good to me.
Luke would actually have more trade value as a left fielder than as a DH—not much more I assume, since teams already know he can field; if he got more playing time in left and showed that he was at least average, his value would go up. Also, there is some evidence that most players hit better as fielders than DHs, so if that’s true in Luke’s case, all the better.
Corey can definitely handle center. He has lots of experience there, actually, and UZR has him as an average to slightly above average CF. He’s already in the lineup every day, so it’s not like you’re playing him when you otherwise wouldn’t. He probably has no trade value, even as a CF, but if the goal is to sit Jones, this works fine.
Pie would be the best option, if he comes back.
"MONTANEZ: Alas! I cannot hit. Deal with it."
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actually, i'm pretty sure i have no trade value whatsoever
but if someone wants to try, i’m all for it
Jones looked like the unathletic kid in grade school trying to play sports on that one
All I could do was laugh. Once they got the first two on base I knew it was all over.
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