Marlins 7, Orioles 5: The joke is on us
by Stacey on Jun 23, 2010 10:18 PM EDT
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PrintDo you ever feel like someone is playing a trick on us? Like we're all the victims of some crazy, elaborate practical joke? That's how I feel some nights, and tonight is one of them. The Orioles put together a legitimate good inning in the bottom of the third, with back-to-back HR from Luke Scott and Adam Jones, and hits by Matt Wieters, Cesar Izturis, and Corey Patterson, resulting in four runs. Just when we start to feel like something might go our way for ONE night, Brian Matusz gave up two 2-run home runs in the top of the 4th to tie the game.
I spent the gamethread praising and saying how wonderful Brian Matusz is. I do still think he's wonderful, but it's like the mastermind behind the practical joke read that and thought, ah ha! Perfect! And then Brian Matusz gives up 6 runs.
Naturally the Orioles didn't get any more hits until the 7th inning. That's how they roll.
But wait, it gets better! Er, worse! So we all know Corey Patterson can't hit. But at least he can play defense, right? WRONG! He misplayed a ball by Chris Coghlan into a RBI double. And how about Adam Jones, the centerpiece of the Erik Bedard trade, who we all thought was a good defensive centerfielder before he got here? HE KICKED A BALL ACROSS THE OUTFIELD. I can't make this stuff up.
And for the final atrocity of this game, in the 8th inning with the Orioles down by two and runners on first and second with no outs, the Orioles fearless leader, Juan Samuel, called on Matt Wieters to bunt. BUNT! To move the runners up for Scott Moore and Cesar Izturis! That's not a lie! When do you guys think is the last time Matt Wieters was asked to bunt? Little league? Ever? Of course it didn't work and the runner got thrown out at third.
Oh, and finally, just in case anyone from the Orioles is reading this, ALFREDO SIMON IS NOT GOOD AT PITCHING. Consider that.
Sometimes I wonder how this team can be 19-52. I mean, not just this team. Any team. It's a little incomprehensible. Then I watch this team running around like a bunch of tee ball players and I find it hard to believe they won 19 in the first place.
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LOLLYGAGGERS!
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
Bumper sticker on Luke Scott's locker
“I’ll keep my guns, my money, and my freedom…you can keep the change.”
I can’t want until that guy is no longer on this fucking team.
Rub some $100 bills on it, you sell-out. -duck
Why? So we can add another player who can't hit?
Waiting 'til next year.
by wickedwitch on Jun 23, 2010 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions
not everyone has the same politics as you
doesn’t mean you have to hate them.
Isn't it almost impossible to believe that none of the perfect games this season have been thrown against us? -O'sFan21
whatever
I find his constant Luke hating tiresome.
Isn't it almost impossible to believe that none of the perfect games this season have been thrown against us? -O'sFan21
Eh
I haven’t said anything about it for a while. Striking out swinging at an obvious ball while swinging out of your ass to end the game and then giving an interview in front of that retarded bumper sticker will bring it out of me every time.
Rub some $100 bills on it, you sell-out. -duck
He went 1-4 with a HR and a BB
Off all the people to bash, he’s not one of them.
"I have seen the future and his name is Matt Wieters." Keith Law
by Reddrummer9187 on Jun 24, 2010 8:55 AM EDT up reply actions
well not tonight anyways
but usually, he isnt very good at baseball
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jun 24, 2010 9:27 AM EDT up reply actions
You're right - he had an AWESOME night!
That K to end the game on a ball was just special. But that solo HR totally made up for it…
Rub some $100 bills on it, you sell-out. -duck
well don't be a douche and hate him because he's conservative
hate him because he fucking sucks at baseball
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jun 24, 2010 9:26 AM EDT up reply actions
I dont get all the luke hate
Ok he’s streaky as hell, which is only exposed because the rest of the team is so bad. If we had a decent lineup and he was our 3rd or 4th OF’er and batting 6th or something, his streaks would be covered up more.
He’s not terrible at baseball, i just dont get all the hate on luke.
"I have seen the future and his name is Matt Wieters." Keith Law
by Reddrummer9187 on Jun 24, 2010 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions
he is kinda bad tho
last year, he had that one amazinggggggg hot streak where he OPSed like 1.2 or something. for the rest of the year, his OPS was like .650 which just isnt good.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jun 24, 2010 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions
jesus christ
for the hundredth time – that’s only part of it. See below for fucks sake.
His politics are also only part of the reason I dislike him. His general shittiness on the baseball field is a much bigger part.
Rub some $100 bills on it, you sell-out. -duck
yea i got that
you know i hate luke too. i just dont see the need to hate somebody not at all politics-related for their political views.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jun 24, 2010 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Even my politics-related Luke hate
isn’t really about his views though – it’s about his need to flaunt them. Keep that shit to yourself and we’re good. I also think he’s a fucking idiot about them – as I say below I’m sure he’s all for cutting military spending so he can keep more of his money…
Rub some $100 bills on it, you sell-out. -duck
I have no problem with disagreement
It’s blind, pig ignorance I can’t stand.
Obama his pissed off the Sarah Brady/Carolyn McCarthy types at every turn by rejecting furhter gun restrictions, while it was Emperor Cheney who sent his personal Freikorps (AKA Blackwater) into New Orleans after Katrina to confiscate all civilian-owned firearms.
But good luck explaining that to the Paliban & the Teahadists & the Beckerheads & the Ditto Monkeys
You can't fix stupid. Stupid is forever.
I'm not disagreeing
At the same time, as a pro-gun, anti-tax, freedom-loving person, I’m also more than a bit sick of morons like Luke with their dumbass bumper stickers. If Luke wants to hold a fundraiser for the Institute for Justice, then I’ll lead the cheering section.
But the crap with the bumper sticker on the locker, that’s designed to piss people like him off. Which is what most politics in this country seems to be nowadays. Folk running around, getting a kick out of thinking that somewhere, there is someone with different politics who got offended by whatever they just did or said. Luke wants him to react this way. And that pisses me off too.
To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa
well if Luke does it to piss him off
then Luke wins because he takes the bait every fucking time.
Isn't it almost impossible to believe that none of the perfect games this season have been thrown against us? -O'sFan21
Luke Wins!!
At making random dude on the internet annoyed about his politics. Maybe he should concentrate on baseball…
Rub some $100 bills on it, you sell-out. -duck
Yeah, what can I say?
I’m just angry with the whole team right now. Sorry to rant.
To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa
On the other hand
maybe it’s I who am in fact a winner. Maybe I only say shit about Luke’s politics to get a rise out of people here and you take the bait every fucking time.
Rub some $100 bills on it, you sell-out. -duck
Sure
It doesn’t mean I HAVE to hate them. But I sure as hell can prefer he kept it to himself and if he didn’t that he broadcast that shit while wearing some other team’s uniform.
His politics are also only part of the reason I dislike him. His general shittiness on the baseball field is a much bigger part.
Rub some $100 bills on it, you sell-out. -duck
he's one of the best hitters on the team
that’s more of an indictment of the team than an endorsement of Luke, but it’s true.
He’s not your friend, he’s not in your family, I just don’t get why you take his politics so personally. Most rich athletes are republicans you know. Who gives a shit?
Isn't it almost impossible to believe that none of the perfect games this season have been thrown against us? -O'sFan21
I do.
And most rich athletes don’t thrust in our faces. If they do it bothers me.
Rub some $100 bills on it, you sell-out. -duck
You know what bumper stickers I hate?
Those stupid stick people and stick dogs that I suppose indicates how many people are supposed to be in your immediate family. I wish it were legal to ram them in traffic.
Don't let the sunshine fool ya. - Townes Van Zandt
Glad it's not just me
"If you go up there clueless, you're going to come back [to the dugout] clueless. It's that simple." - Nick Markakis
Or the flip flops
all that tells me is that 5 members of your family dress poorly.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
someone pointed out to me the other day
that they also tell the names of all your kids to complete strangers. so that complete strangers can approach your kids at school and call them by name, and even tell them [sibling] told me it was okay to pick you up at school today.
yeah, parents, that’s really smart. maybe put your bank account as your license plate while you’re at it.
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
3 favourite bumper stickers
My Shi-Tzu is smarter than your president (2001-09 only)
Orwell was an Optimist (with the 2 Os drawn as eyes)
Hang up and drive!
You can't fix stupid. Stupid is forever.
hang up and drive is great
i hate those fuckers on the phone the whole damn time they drive
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jun 24, 2010 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions
And he fucking sucks.
He’s a compiler offensively and he’s a butcher in the field.
Rub some $100 bills on it, you sell-out. -duck
I'm not sure how a guy with a 124 OPS+ 'sucks.'
Yes, he’s streaky. ‘Compiler’ sounds fishy. But this team is SO TERRIBLE, who the hell would we replace him with? Whoever we choose we are likely to score even LESS.
"Might as well just win this game." - Adam Jones, 4/17/2008
Adam Jones is the tits.
by KenDixonFanClub on Jun 23, 2010 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh I don't want to replace him with anybody
I want to trade him for somebody. And ASAP.
Rub some $100 bills on it, you sell-out. -duck
Trading him, I'm down with.
I want better players on the team. I don’t care if they are Libertarians or Communists or Anarcho-Syndicalists or Green Party Tree-Hugging Moon Maidens. I would only draw the line at actual felonies. And even then, if the guy could hit 40 hr, I can overlook a dead hooker or a few Ks of blow.
"Might as well just win this game." - Adam Jones, 4/17/2008
Adam Jones is the tits.
by KenDixonFanClub on Jun 23, 2010 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions
dead hookers and blow??
Isn’t that just your typical vegas bachelor party??? Can’t hold that against a dude forever!
Rub some $100 bills on it, you sell-out. -duck
technically, yes.
again, though, I said “if the guy can hit 40 hr.” If they find Corey (or really anybody on the team right now not named Nick, Adam, Matt, or Brian) face down in a pile of china white tomorrow, and ship out, I’m fine with that. Wouldn’t even take a dead hooker.
"Might as well just win this game." - Adam Jones, 4/17/2008
Adam Jones is the tits.
by KenDixonFanClub on Jun 23, 2010 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Unless your name is Markakis, Jones, or Wieters you are probably worse at baseball that Luke Scott.
A-Rod uses steroids, but steroids use Matt Wieters.
FWIW, the bunt was in the 8th
Also, FWIW, Scorey has a UZR of -2.2 this season. He had a UZR of -0.3 his last season in the majors in 2008.
He hasn’t been a good fielder for some time. He is bad at baseball. Really bad at it. Allowing him to play baseball makes it certain that baseball will be badly played in his immediate vicinity.
Everyone seems to know this. He couldn’t take a job away from Willy Taveras two years ago. Last year, he couldn’t get more than 15 plate appearances for the Nationals, who were the worst team in baseball.
We’ve given him 142. The Brewers wouldn’t even let Scorey get that much playing time for their AAA team in 2009.
To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa
oops 9th was a typo
Isn't it almost impossible to believe that none of the perfect games this season have been thrown against us? -O'sFan21
I'm not sure
that either this year or his 2008 season or the two combined give us anywhere near enough data for UZR to be a worthwhile statistic for CP.
And again…who would you like to replace him with? Lou? Luke?
Rub some $100 bills on it, you sell-out. -duck
Sentences like this...
“Allowing him to play baseball makes it certain that baseball will be badly played in his immediate vicinity.”
make me glad you showed up here, James.
"If you go up there clueless, you're going to come back [to the dugout] clueless. It's that simple." - Nick Markakis
Samuel is an even WORSE tactical manager than Trembley.
And that is a high bar. The sooner this guy is gone, the better. He seems like a decent enough fellow and he was a good ballplayer, but god damn is he a terrible manager.
"Might as well just win this game." - Adam Jones, 4/17/2008
Adam Jones is the tits.
by KenDixonFanClub on Jun 23, 2010 10:54 PM EDT reply actions
Bring Back Diamond Dave!
zk ought to feel so fucking vindicated right now.
To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa
WHAT
I don’t understand this. DD was terrible. Samuel is terrible. You have to get rid of both of them to find someone who isn’t terrible.
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
I mean only for always reminding us that it could be worse
To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa
gotcha. grazie.
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
the sad thing is,
I was a Trembley apologist for a looooooooong time, right into the beginning of this year. But his inept decisions and complete tolerance for losing (i.e., not holding guys accountable) took the bloom off the rose in the space of about three weeks. I went all the way from booster to blasphemer in a very short period of time.
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
Yeah
At the same time, though, Trembley did do a decent job of keeping the team classy in defeat. All of these players ripping one another in the media, players telling Britt “we suck”, that kind of crap, it didn’t happen under him.
I can’t help feeling it has gotten a lot worse since he’s been gone, and quickly at that.
To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa
meh
it may be just that the losing has continued for so long that this stuff is coming out around the edges. i have no reason to believe that nicky or the anonymous player would have kept quiet with DDT at the helm.
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
Sure
But isn’t the point of firing the manager to improve the situation in some way?
To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa
I think the point of firing the manager is to appease fans
Not saying its the right way to go about things but its what happens.
"I have seen the future and his name is Matt Wieters." Keith Law
by Reddrummer9187 on Jun 24, 2010 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Seriously
I get that putting Samuel in place made it possible for MacPhail to start interviewing people, and I understand the need for that. But Samuel is just a complete non-entity.
Isn't it almost impossible to believe that none of the perfect games this season have been thrown against us? -O'sFan21
What I always wonder
Why does Samuel have to be in place in order to interview people? Is there some rule that MacPhail can’t interview people informally or secretly?
To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa
There isn't a rule that I know about
But it seems kinda mean.
Isn't it almost impossible to believe that none of the perfect games this season have been thrown against us? -O'sFan21
Isn't firing him mean?
I guess I don’t see why the team should have to suffer to spare the manager’s feelings, even though it isn’t like he isn’t hearing it every day from the press that he’s on the verge of getting canned.
To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa
interviewees don't like it
you always hear about them saying, “I don’t want to interview while there’s someone in the job” because they think it’s bad form or etiquette or karma or somesuch.
but if the manager in the job has the title “interim manager”, they’re cool with it.
i have read this in a few different places.
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
why is bill clinton being interviewed about the world cup?
Don't let the sunshine fool ya. - Townes Van Zandt
He was at the game today
And plus, he’s really famous. And a good interview.
To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa
well...besides those two points
they shoudl interview me. I probably rival him for knowing less about soccer.
Don't let the sunshine fool ya. - Townes Van Zandt
He's involved in a bid for the U.S. to host a World Cup.
"MONTANEZ: Alas! I cannot hit. Deal with it."
-Eat More Esskay
by flaggthecat on Jun 23, 2010 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions
What is this constant need we have to always have to host everything?
It seems like people think it is a shame if every other Olympics isn’t in the US, and now we have to try to get our second World Cup in twenty years?
To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa
I'm guessing they will want it in New Orleans. just a hunch.
Don't let the sunshine fool ya. - Townes Van Zandt
It brings a lot of revenue and positive publicity.
This isn’t hard to figure out.
"MONTANEZ: Alas! I cannot hit. Deal with it."
-Eat More Esskay
by flaggthecat on Jun 23, 2010 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions
It doesn't
Publicity, maybe, but consistently the Olympics are an economic disaster for host cities.
To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa
Oh, I know this.
Somehow, the countries/cities making the bids still don’t, I guess.
"MONTANEZ: Alas! I cannot hit. Deal with it."
-Eat More Esskay
by flaggthecat on Jun 23, 2010 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Next one up for grabs
is 2018. We hosted in 1990. That’s almost 30 years at that point.
And we’re still the host nation that’s sold the most tickets. Don’t think that doesn’t figure into the equation as well.
"If you go up there clueless, you're going to come back [to the dugout] clueless. It's that simple." - Nick Markakis
Fair point
And I guess the World Cup isn’t probably the same kind of economic problem, since generally they have the games in existing stadiums rather than building new ones.
To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa
I guess the World Cup isn’t probably the same kind of economic problem, since generally they have the games in existing stadiums rather than building new ones.
For most countries this isnt true, which is a big advantage the U.S. bid has. There would still likely be some serious infrastructure upgrades necessary, but thats the sort of investment that can actually definitely benefit an area long term, unlike a stadium.
some
but now we even have a mess of soccer-specific stadiums already in place. like germany, we wouldnt have to build any new stadiums.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jun 24, 2010 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions
Well, the U.S. bid wouldn't involve a single of the soccer specific stadiums
They aren’t nearly large enough. The need for MLS teams to build their own stadiums didn’t have anything to do with the NFL stadiums being bad places to play or watch the game, but more that they were much too large and that teams had to share the revenue streams. The current list of stadiums in the bid include 4 college football stadiums and 17 NFL stadiums, with the final most likely being held in the new Meadowlands stadium or Cowboys stadium
yea i just checked on that
the only one large enough is home depot center, but with the rose bowl and the coliseum in LA, they wont need it. qwest field is kinda big, but it was a fantastic place to watch a game. i saw dc united play the sounders there last year and it was realllllly nice. the stadium itself is really nice (very new), but the soccer atmosphere they created there is a lot better than the other MLS games ive been to.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jun 24, 2010 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Actually, FIFA wants that dollar
and the US will get either 2018 or 2022. Qatar wants 2022, and is building or revamping 7 stadiums to get it.
http://io9.com/5570748/sweeping-stadium-designs-for-the-2022-fifa-world-cup-in-qatar/gallery/
"If you go up there clueless, you're going to come back [to the dugout] clueless. It's that simple." - Nick Markakis
I think the world cup in the US was the most well attended one
No proof on that one, but i would imagine that the US is the most profitable place for Fifa
"I have seen the future and his name is Matt Wieters." Keith Law
by Reddrummer9187 on Jun 24, 2010 9:04 AM EDT up reply actions
I'd be surprised
I dont believe its a coincidence that FIFA ended its rotation policy just before it was North America’s turn. Numerous FIFA officials have already talked in support of England in 2018. And Sepp Blatter has already said the Middle East “deserves” a World Cup, putting Qatar likely in the lead for 2022.
eh
I’m pretty sure they dropped it because Brazil was the only south american country in the roatation and how many african nations can you get. Also it kind of works against european nations to do a rotation like that.
"I have seen the future and his name is Matt Wieters." Keith Law
by Reddrummer9187 on Jun 24, 2010 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions
wouldn't it make sense then to drop it after 1 full rotation?
I’m fairly confident England wanting it in 2018 was a big part of the decision
the whole point is basically to get it in europe more
And this is the 4th world cup since it was last held in the US. So even if those were the motives, its somewhat justified.
"I have seen the future and his name is Matt Wieters." Keith Law
by Reddrummer9187 on Jun 24, 2010 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions
i dont think so
brazil wasn’t the only SA country in the running iirc. i think its kinda dumb now to have the WC and the olympics in the same country back-to-back.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jun 24, 2010 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions
We hosted '94.
"There's rock bottom, 50 feet of crap, then the Orioles."-Stacey
by BaltimoreSportsFan on Jun 24, 2010 7:10 AM EDT up reply actions
Close enough
"If you go up there clueless, you're going to come back [to the dugout] clueless. It's that simple." - Nick Markakis
8/61
Jones’ current bb/K. On pace for 18/140.
by Dingbat Charlie on Jun 23, 2010 11:21 PM EDT reply actions
I'm becoming convinced that the best move of the offseason
…was our not signing Jones to a long-term deal.
To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa
Kind of an interesting time to shit on Jones...
He is 8 for his last 16. Easily our best player in the month of June thus far.
this is true
Everyone was clammoring for a long-term deal over the off-season and AM held off. What a disastor that deal would look like now (even after a good month of June by him).
"I have seen the future and his name is Matt Wieters." Keith Law
by Reddrummer9187 on Jun 24, 2010 9:07 AM EDT up reply actions
*looks at his FanPost and sighs wistfully*
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
By the way, Roch mentions the bunt in both his postgame posts
Not one word about why it didn’t make sense.
Meanwhile, Melewski does have a post questioning one of Samuel’s decisions tonight.
Of course, he wants to know why he brought in Simon.
To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa
Melewski questioning the Orioles?
You know there is something rotten in denmark fo sure
Librarians are hiding something
And I asked him about why not ask why
And he said it was obvious why they bunted. I was a sad panda.
"If you go up there clueless, you're going to come back [to the dugout] clueless. It's that simple." - Nick Markakis
I think the most amazing moment of this season was the sweep caroline.
But i have no idea how it happened.
by Dodge that Bird! on Jun 23, 2010 11:33 PM EDT reply actions
I won’t go so far as to say I’m rooting for the Orioles to lose, but the Pirates lost tonight, and I think they’re the strongest competitors in the Rendon sweepstakes.
Luckily for us
even if the Pirates come back and suck more than us I think they might take Cole/Purke over Rendon. I mean, we still might take one of those pitchers as well, but personally i’d like Rendon.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
We are on pace for 43 wins
If we stay on that pace, it really doesn’t matter what the pirates do, we will be the worst.
"I have seen the future and his name is Matt Wieters." Keith Law
by Reddrummer9187 on Jun 24, 2010 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions
the bunt
I was stunned when Wieters laid down the bunt. We needed 2 runs to tie and 3 to win, and Samuel was giving up an out merely to avoid the double play. I thought Diamond Dave was back. By the way, Scott Moore looked so bad at the plate today. Why not play Fox at second.
The blogger access
Towards the close of the post-game, people were incredulous why nobody asked about the Wieters bunt – why he thought it was a good idea – in the post-game presser. Are the O’s bloggers in this little test getting access to that conference or is it just pre-game and in-game seating in the press box?
I would have to guess that would be a pretty tough question to ask for somebody in a one-night rotating blogger chair. I imagine I would feel a bit overwhelmed by the surroundings and also not want to feel like I am the one burning a bridge for other bloggers. But I was just curious if that access was extended for this or not.
Baltimore is Baltimore. That's kind of what I know. - Manny Machado, 6/7/10
by Eat More Esskay on Jun 24, 2010 12:01 AM EDT reply actions
No access to clubhouse or field for bloggers
"If you go up there clueless, you're going to come back [to the dugout] clueless. It's that simple." - Nick Markakis
hmm
Still think the coaching isnt the problem?
Just because they do stupid shit that everybody knows is stupid
doesn’t mean they are “the problem”
Rub some $100 bills on it, you sell-out. -duck
They aren't in anyway part of teh solution...
They have made no “move” this year that you can look back and say “that won us teh game”. But, how many have you seen where you’re like “well we lost the game because of”? Plenty.
It doesn’t matter who pitches a great game, plays great defense or has great at bats. These fn clowns find a way to fuck it up.
Definitely not part of the solution.
I don’t know about most of your argument though – they’ve made plenty of the right moves and they haven’t worked out because the players are bad. They’ve also made many of the “wrong” moves that might have worked out ok had the players been better, but are more glaring because the players are bad.
Nobody pitched a great game, played great defense, or had great ABs tonight. The players were the clowns who found a way to fuck it up. The coaches just didn’t help at all and made it worse.
Rub some $100 bills on it, you sell-out. -duck
Your last sentence
Isn’t that what coaching is for really?
I’m not arguing it isn’t on the players. I’m simply saying they aren’t being given the tools to win. Whether it be coaching, tapes, scouting reports, substituitions, or plain old encouragement— it’s not there.
by GeoffreyA on Jun 24, 2010 1:16 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Yes sure
Coaching should put you in the best position to win and they certainly didn’t do that tonight.
I just think coaching doesn’t make that much difference either way and shouldn’t be that high on the priority list. Although if Samuel keeps making moves like that it’ll change my thinking very quickly. I guess there’s also not much they can do other than improve the coaching right now, so you may as well do it.
Rub some $100 bills on it, you sell-out. -duck
And quite frankly
Having 4-6 top 50 struggling prospects is unfathomable. What are teh odds? I understand that there is a high % of failure, but all on one team?
Lots of prospects struggle.
And they are playing for one of the worst teams in the history of baseball – not exactly an ideal environment for young players.
Rub some $100 bills on it, you sell-out. -duck
Why...
was this the one game Markakis goes 0-5
by 2_Girls_1_George_Sherill on Jun 24, 2010 2:51 AM EDT reply actions
This is the most absurd user ID i've seen in a while
"I have seen the future and his name is Matt Wieters." Keith Law
by Reddrummer9187 on Jun 24, 2010 9:14 AM EDT up reply actions
I use absurd and awesome interchangeably
Absurd things are usually pretty awesome
"I have seen the future and his name is Matt Wieters." Keith Law
by Reddrummer9187 on Jun 24, 2010 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions
I went to the Angels/Dodgers tonight
The Dodgers were Oriolesque.
I came to camdenchat and all I got was this lousy avatar.
phase 3..
are we there yet? are we there yet? are we there yet? are we there yet? are we there yet?
Marge Simpson: “NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!”
The never-ending tennis match was 10x more interesting then this game.
"There's rock bottom, 50 feet of crap, then the Orioles."-Stacey
by BaltimoreSportsFan on Jun 24, 2010 7:12 AM EDT reply actions
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