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FROM THE DRAFT

Baltimore Orioles select high school shortstop Manny Machado with third overall pick of draft - baltimoresun.com
The Miami shortstop has been compared to Derek Jeter. I'd rather that than any of the six shortstops the Orioles ran out there in 2008. -duck

O's land prep shortstop Machado at No. 3 | orioles.com: News
But when asked who Machado likens himself to, or what Major League player he aspires to be, the 17-year-old made it clear that imitations won't be necessary. "I'm Manny Machado," he said in Monday's conference call announcing his Draft selection. "You can't be like anyone else. You have to be yourself." Not a bad answer at all. -duck

Live draft tracker - baltimoresun.com
Just hit refresh, and you get all the results today as they happen. Orioles don't pick again until the third round. -duck

Quotes and comments from Manny Machado - MASNsports.com
Here are some, well, questions and answers from Manny Machado. -duck

Machado is no consolation prize - MASNsports.com
Sure, we all wanted Jameson Taillon, but Manny Machado's no chopped liver. And I HATE chopped liver. -duck

A few words from Jordan - MASNsports.com
"We feel like he's going to play on the dirt, play the left side of the infield at the shortstop position. We think there's a bat, and power - all the ingredients you look for in a shortstop. And a shortstop that will be able, hopefully, to impact the game offensively. We feel like he's going to be able to contribute to the game every night in some way. That's really what it boils down to. All the ingredients are there." -duck

Star-divide

IN OTHER NEWS

Orioles Insider: Looking back at recent Orioles' first-round picks
Here's a look at all the Orioles' first-round picks since 2001. Warning: it gets a little ugly once you go back further than 2007, although 2003 worked out pretty well. -duck

Ryne Sandberg would consider Baltimore Orioles job | The Des Moines Register
Iowa Cubs manager Ryne Sandberg Monday said he'd listen if Baltimore Orioles team president Andy MacPhail called about his vacant managerial position. So far, no call. Um, Andy? GET ON THE PHONE. -duck

Hanging out with Adam Jones - MASNsports.com
Adam Jones sat down with Steve Melewski and answered questions on a video chat. No, really, he sat down. In a chair and everything. -duck

Wigginton keeps up All-Star numbers | orioles.com: News
It's time to write-in (OK, type-in) Ty Wigginton for the All-Star Team. Sure, he'll never make it on fan votes, but we can try! -duck

Orioles Insider: Roberts to see doctor tomorrow 
Brian Roberts was held out of his extended Spring Training game yesterday, to see a doctor about a back issue. This just won't end well, people. Be prepared. -duck

Weaver's Tantrum: '09 Sherrill vs. '10 Ohman
Weaver's Tantrum compares the two pitchers and wonders if Will Ohman could get near the value George Sherrill did last year. -Stacey

Unleashed: Seriously, why can't the Orioles just do this?- baltimoresun.com
Why oh why can't the Orioles have a dog night, where people can watch the games and bring their pups? Because it would suck, that's why. It's bad enough I have to put up with drunk college students, I don't want barking dogs crapping everywhere, too. -duck

IN THE MINORS

Orioles Insider: Minor league game recaps - June 7
Norfolk won in a shut out, Frederick won, Bowie was off, and Delmarva won. Good day all around! -duck

Three Shorebirds Land on 2010 All-Star Team | Delmarva Shorebirds News
Right-handed starter Jesse Beal, right fielder Brian Conley and shortstop Garabez Rosa will represent the Shorebirds in the South Atlantic League All-Star Game at Fluor Field at the West End in Greenville, South Carolina on June 22. -duck

Orioles Prospect: Pat Egan | Bowie Baysox News
"The Baysox have a bevy of young pitchers providing solid depth in their rotation and in their bullpen. One such pitcher is right-hander Pat Egan, a long reliever who is quickly being recognized as one of the organization's up and coming pitching prospects." So go read about him! -duck

FROM THE UM, WHAT? FILE

Juan Samuel Named First Black Manager in Orioles History | The Afro-American Newspapers
"The Baltimore Orioles recently fired team manager Dave Trembley and named third base coach Juan Samuel as the club’s new interim manager and first Black team manager in franchise history." Um, guys? Frank Robinson? Ring a bell? -duck

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Juan Samuel is from the Dominican Republic. That’s not black; just ask Torii Hunter. He is, I think, the O’s first Latino manager.

Isn't it almost impossible to believe that none of the perfect games this season have been thrown against us? -O'sFan21

by Stacey on Jun 8, 2010 7:18 AM EDT reply actions  

I believe you're right

Though occasionally Dave Trembley’s Mexican doppleganger Domingo Tremblinato filled in for Sunday afternoon games while DD slept off his Diet Coke hangovers.

"The United States is the New York Yankees of countries...powerful and respected until the year 2000." - Homer J. Simpson

by Brotz13 on Jun 8, 2010 8:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

Minors

Tides won 6-0 – Hughes and Salazar w/ jacks, Donachie had a 3 hit day and Bell had 2 hits, both from the right side. Patton gave up 3 hits and no runs over 7 IP. Wolf and Hinkcley completed the shutout.

Keys won 3-1 – Zagone fanned 6 giving up 2 hits and 1 run (HR) for the win. Avery had 2 hits and a run.

Shorebirds won 7-6, – Conley and Baxter both had 2 hits and 2 runs. Bundy went 7 innings giving up 1 run

Bowie had off.

by Philly O's on Jun 8, 2010 8:01 AM EDT reply actions  

Just added it

Sory, ran out of time to go to each team’s site, The Sun finally got their recap up. I swear, I think they wait until 8:30 on purpose just to taunt me….

When you watch the Orioles every night, a beer after dinner turns into a six pack WAY too many times. Stacey

by duck on Jun 8, 2010 8:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

Amd for the Keys

I’m really liking Zagone and Drake from last year at Delmarva. I think they could be two sleepers in our system.

When you watch the Orioles every night, a beer after dinner turns into a six pack WAY too many times. Stacey

by duck on Jun 8, 2010 8:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

yep...

big fan of both drake and zagone, too…but how about that xavery? am i wrong that he seems to be developing a little quicker than was projected?

"If they pitch to you, make them pay."

--Diamond Dave to the Phenom

by j.q. higgins on Jun 8, 2010 8:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm still jaded by last year

Avery SUCKED last year. SUCKED. .306 OBP last year, .647 OPS. Yeah, I know, young for the league, but that’s BAD.

When you watch the Orioles every night, a beer after dinner turns into a six pack WAY too many times. Stacey

by duck on Jun 8, 2010 8:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

you have to keep some sort of perspective though

Football was his main sport all through high school. He’s just now concentrating on baseball, so just surviving full season ball is a feat. He’s a wild card for that reason.

"I have seen the future and his name is Matt Wieters." Keith Law

by Reddrummer9187 on Jun 8, 2010 8:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hrm

Avery still isn’t exactly blowing anybody away. It’s still real, real early, but he isn’t exactly looking like anything more than a role player on a major league team just yet, and I’m not convinced he can be any better than Matt Angle (who isn’t exactly the second coming himself).

Fire Garret Atkins.

by Andrew_G on Jun 8, 2010 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

He's way better than angle

Angle was 23 in A+ ball and OPS’ed .717, Avery is 20 and has an OPS of .721 in A+ ball. Plus Avery is still uber raw, he’s got far more room to grow where Avery is nothing but a slap hitter.

"I have seen the future and his name is Matt Wieters." Keith Law

by Reddrummer9187 on Jun 8, 2010 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

*

Where Angle is nothing but a slap hitter.

"I have seen the future and his name is Matt Wieters." Keith Law

by Reddrummer9187 on Jun 8, 2010 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

I get it

but there’s a huge discrepancy in their OBP, and based on his advanced level and advanced on base skills, I think right now Matt Angle has a better chance of being a role player on a major league team than Avery does. And right now I don’t think either one of them can be a starter. I like Avery enough, but the onus is on him to prove to us that he is a quality player and so far, while he’s gotten better, he still isn’t nearly good enough.

Fire Garret Atkins.

by Andrew_G on Jun 8, 2010 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

Eh

I say it so much I’m sure it gets tiresome, but tools matter.

In half the plate appearances as last year, Avery has matched his 2009 home run total, hit 2/3 as many doubles, and increased his walks by over 50%. Does Angle have a better chance of being a role player? Sure; Avery has a very low floor. But there is no question which one has the chance of being an above-average starter. Avery is a high ceiling, low floor prospect. And that’s not the worst thing.

To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa

by James F on Jun 8, 2010 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think I am a sucker for tools

Although to be fair I dont expect a lot of them to pan out, but if you get enough of them then some will pan out, some will flop and some will tease you, but its worth it for those that do pan out.

Also on Angle, I think he gets a lot of hits by bunting, that probably wont work at the major league level.

"I have seen the future and his name is Matt Wieters." Keith Law

by Reddrummer9187 on Jun 8, 2010 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

I like him

maybe I’m not getting across what I mean very well. He’s miles and miles and miles away and has so much ground to cover yet that it’s difficult for me to get really excited about him in June 2010. That’s all I mean. I like him, but I’m not excited about him.

Fire Garret Atkins.

by Andrew_G on Jun 8, 2010 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm pleased that he's improving

I dunno if that means that I’m excited about him, but he’s moving in the right direction.

Odds are he never wears an Orioles uniform. But at least he is more likely than Angle to be part of a trade getting us someone who will wear one. Avery is a prospect. Angle isn’t.

To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa

by James F on Jun 8, 2010 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

If Lou Montanez can be a role player on this team....

…they may as well let me bring my dog to the park and he can pinch run.

If his mouth was big enough to hold a baseball, I’d say we should replace b2b with him.

To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa

by James F on Jun 8, 2010 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

Much better range for sure

Make the world a better place; punch a Yankee fan in the face!

by PBR me ASAP! on Jun 8, 2010 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

But seriously

Angle has a solid K:BB ratio, speed, and (from what I’ve heard) good defense, he could definitely be a useful part. He’s not a world-beater or a starter, but he could definitely be useful.

Fire Garret Atkins.

by Andrew_G on Jun 8, 2010 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

i should mention...

after my initial post, i realized that avery had been drafted a year earlier than i thought.

"If they pitch to you, make them pay."

--Diamond Dave to the Phenom

by j.q. higgins on Jun 8, 2010 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Drake is a sleeper

Zagone just doesn’t have the stuff to start, IMO. He could make it as a LOOGY though.

To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa

by James F on Jun 8, 2010 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

jeter...

there was an article about jeter and the draft the other day in the nyt and it talked about the players drafted before him. except for the one guy that flamed out before playing pro, they all played or nearly played for the o’s.

phil nevin (who nixed a trade to the o’s), paul shuey (shewbacca!), chad mottola (quad-a jobber actually depicted in o’s uni in article’s photo gallery) and jeffrey hammonds.

"If they pitch to you, make them pay."

--Diamond Dave to the Phenom

by j.q. higgins on Jun 8, 2010 8:27 AM EDT reply actions  

I'd be all for pooch night at the park

Do it on a Tuesday or Wednesday against any non-A.L. East team or something. It might only bring a few hundred more people, but for one night It’d be alright.

Make the world a better place; punch a Yankee fan in the face!

by PBR me ASAP! on Jun 8, 2010 8:34 AM EDT reply actions  

I'd imagine it'd keep away as many people as it would bring in

I know I wouldn’t go. Why would I want to deal with people’s annoying dogs? I already have to deal with people’s annoying kids.

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Jun 8, 2010 8:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

I despise children, but I can deal with animals

Make the world a better place; punch a Yankee fan in the face!

by PBR me ASAP! on Jun 8, 2010 8:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

hmmm

First ot have Dog night – Orioles or Eagles??

by Philly O's on Jun 8, 2010 8:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

seriously

why the hell do i want to hear some barking dog the whole damn game? its bad enough watching the product on the field. at least let me TRY to enjoy it.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jun 8, 2010 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Although, this is a valid point from the comments....

Forcing dogs to watch the Orioles seems cruel

Make the world a better place; punch a Yankee fan in the face!

by PBR me ASAP! on Jun 8, 2010 8:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

rec'd. no doubt.

Make the world a better place; punch a Yankee fan in the face!

by PBR me ASAP! on Jun 8, 2010 8:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

agreed!!

It’s the Ric Flair Theory of baseball – To be the man, you gotta beat the man. -duck

by Parkinglotninja on Jun 8, 2010 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

I dunno how good an idea this is

I love my dog, and enjoy bringing him places. But I can think of a ton of problems with bringing him to the park. Like: how do I stop him from peeing on everything? Where does he sit? How do I stop him from eating food that falls on the ground? Does he have to be on a leash the whole time? If not, what happens if he runs off through the stands? What happens if a dog runs on to the field? What happens if two dogs get into a fight in the stands?

I can think of few circumstances more likely to end up with something going wrong, really, than mixing five hundred plus dogs with ten thousand people and beer.

To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa

by James F on Jun 8, 2010 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

What happens if two dogs get into a fight in the stands?

Then the crowd will finally have something entertaining to watch.

by kba26 on Jun 8, 2010 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ten thousand? Isn’t that a bit optimistic?

by BrianS on Jun 8, 2010 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

Snappy remarks

That was a good answer from Manny Machado as to the comparisons to other players. I also would have accepted “I’ll tell you who I’m not like: Billy Rowell”.

I don’t see why we can’t have dogs attend Oriole games. They’d fit right in with the dog that wears the #25 jersey.

"The United States is the New York Yankees of countries...powerful and respected until the year 2000." - Homer J. Simpson

by Brotz13 on Jun 8, 2010 8:44 AM EDT reply actions  

I want Machado to know as little about Billy Rowell as possible

When you watch the Orioles every night, a beer after dinner turns into a six pack WAY too many times. Stacey

by duck on Jun 8, 2010 8:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's inevitable

In a couple years, Billy will be responsible for parking Manny’s car in the OPACY players’ lot.

"The United States is the New York Yankees of countries...powerful and respected until the year 2000." - Homer J. Simpson

by Brotz13 on Jun 8, 2010 8:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

By then...

I doubt he’ll pass a background check to even get that gig.

When you watch the Orioles every night, a beer after dinner turns into a six pack WAY too many times. Stacey

by duck on Jun 8, 2010 9:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

Dude, that's a beaver

Isn't it almost impossible to believe that none of the perfect games this season have been thrown against us? -O'sFan21

by Stacey on Jun 8, 2010 8:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Just got tickets to Strasburg's debut tonight

Can’t wait to see that guy pitch in person.

"I'm from Maryland, and no one can beat me!"

by John Stephens on Jun 8, 2010 10:35 AM EDT reply actions  

I have to admit that I would try to do the same if it wasn't for work

The stock market will never recover, our armies will never again be #1, and our children will drink filthy water for the rest of their lives - HST

by the fix is in on Jun 8, 2010 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah

I am not a Nats fan by any means, but I can appreciate some damn fine pitching. Chicks dig the fast ball.

"I'm from Maryland, and no one can beat me!"

by John Stephens on Jun 8, 2010 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

if i was in DC, i'd be there in a minute

i’ll be watching from a bar though. can’t wait.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jun 8, 2010 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

ok that is really funny

"I have seen the future and his name is Matt Wieters." Keith Law

by Reddrummer9187 on Jun 8, 2010 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

.

"Being an Orioles fan is like having very painful genital warts."
"harden the fuck up mike gonzalez."
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by danielreese05 on Jun 8, 2010 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Are you already out of school?

"There's rock bottom, 50 feet of crap, then the Orioles."-Stacey

by BaltimoreSportsFan on Jun 8, 2010 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

yup since last tuesday

"Being an Orioles fan is like having very painful genital warts."
"harden the fuck up mike gonzalez."
The Signing Bonus: We're back in business.

by danielreese05 on Jun 8, 2010 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've got another 2 1/2 freaking weeks left.

I’m sooo jealous.

"There's rock bottom, 50 feet of crap, then the Orioles."-Stacey

by BaltimoreSportsFan on Jun 8, 2010 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah

we get out really early

"Being an Orioles fan is like having very painful genital warts."
"harden the fuck up mike gonzalez."
The Signing Bonus: We're back in business.

by danielreese05 on Jun 8, 2010 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

what the hell?

when i was in high school, we went to school like august 25 to june 18 or thereabouts every year

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jun 8, 2010 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

yup

baltimore private school hombre. im september 5-7 to june 3-5, it changes pretty much every year.

"Being an Orioles fan is like having very painful genital warts."
"harden the fuck up mike gonzalez."
The Signing Bonus: We're back in business.

by danielreese05 on Jun 9, 2010 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

i really wish the nats game tonite was nationally televised

not all the bars get MLB network or will have masn on….

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jun 8, 2010 4:57 PM EDT reply actions  

I bet if they have either of those stations, it'll be on

It’s the talk of the town. You’re in VA, right? I’d imagine i’ll be easy to find.

Isn't it almost impossible to believe that none of the perfect games this season have been thrown against us? -O'sFan21

by Stacey on Jun 8, 2010 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'm in charlottesville

i’ve had trouble finding games before although admittedly not as hyped as this game. popular baseball around here is UVA. btw….tix going fast for the super regional if you’re into college baseball. UVA vs. OK here at davenport field…..great seats for 24 bucks. you can see my future sleeper for the orioles danny hultzen.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jun 8, 2010 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

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