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Per Brittany Ghiroli: Brian Roberts' appointment "not good."

As has been reported in various locations, Brian Roberts is still having back troubles and had an appointment today to see what's going on. Nothing official has been released regarding how it went, but at 4:03 p.m. Brittany Ghiroli tweeted the following:

roberts appt not good. He will not do any thing for a few days as he gets more tests

We'll have to wait and see what "not good" means specifically, but I think we can all guess that it means we probably won't see Roberts for quite some time, maybe not even this year. I've said a few times that I thought we wouldn't see him back all year, but I tried really hard not to believe it.

At this point does it seem strange that Brian didn't just go ahead and have surgery? I mean, it's a herniated disk. I'm no doctor, but that is the standard procedure, right?

Just another ridiculous thing to happen to the 2010 Orioles.

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I’m ready for this season to be over.

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by jobe on Jun 8, 2010 4:18 PM EDT reply actions  

As a Portland Trailblazer fan - this is nothing.

At least the part relating to injuries.

As for the rest of the season and the performance of the guys not injured – your are right. It isn’t too soon to start thinking about next year, because I don’t see things getting any better this season.

Clarence, It's better to have a gun and not need it, then need a gun and not have it.

by timg56 on Jun 8, 2010 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

How long before Markakis goes down?

Signing Roberts and Markakis were supposed to be signals that the team could retain its own free-agent players in the post-Mussina era. The freakin’ team can’t win for trying. At least Markakis is still producing, although I may just lock him away in a softly padded room until the plague of the 2010 season passes.

by Roarfrom34 on Jun 8, 2010 4:23 PM EDT reply actions  

Markakis has been very durable

Of course, part of me thinks that means it’s only a matter of time.

Isn't it almost impossible to believe that none of the perfect games this season have been thrown against us? -O'sFan21

by Stacey on Jun 8, 2010 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

it'll happen sooner or later

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jun 8, 2010 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

You just jinxed him

Running into a wall would be my rational bet for how he gets hurt, but this is the 2010 Orioles so instead it’ll be something flashier. Like a fan pushing the Oriole Bird off the outfield wall (like that guy did back in the late ’90s) and the Bird landing on Markakis. Of course, there could be a shopping-cart balancing act gone bad in his future.

by Roarfrom34 on Jun 8, 2010 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe he'll be balancing a shopping cart on his chin

while wearing heelys.

Isn't it almost impossible to believe that none of the perfect games this season have been thrown against us? -O'sFan21

by Stacey on Jun 8, 2010 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

all while riding his heelys down the ramps at giants stadium

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jun 8, 2010 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

and sharp objects

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jun 8, 2010 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nice

Unfortunately, the ramps are no more. My dream is forever gone.

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Jun 9, 2010 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

FML

I miss Roberts in the order. This sucks

"I'm from Maryland, and no one can beat me!"

by John Stephens on Jun 8, 2010 4:24 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm still pissed he didn't tell the club when it happened

Apparently, he showed up at ST and told them then.

When you watch the Orioles every night, a beer after dinner turns into a six pack WAY too many times. Stacey

by duck on Jun 8, 2010 4:26 PM EDT reply actions  

It's inevitable

Someone is eventually going to leak a surreptitious recording of Andy MacPhail cursing up a blue streak. The guy must lose his stuff Earl Weaver style every now and again, especially with stuff like this.

by Roarfrom34 on Jun 8, 2010 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd like to see that

I appreciate MacPhail’s calm and collected demeanor, but you know he feels the frustration. Let it out, Andy! It’ll do you good.

Isn't it almost impossible to believe that none of the perfect games this season have been thrown against us? -O'sFan21

by Stacey on Jun 8, 2010 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Me too

I like the calm, cool, Mr. Rogers vibe he has going on. That’s what would make it so enjoyable. It’s so contrary to his persona. He has to be wearing a sweater when he lets loose, though. That’s my only requirement.

by Roarfrom34 on Jun 8, 2010 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

It would be kind of like the first time I heard my mom say the F word

Actually I’ve never heard my mom say the F word, but saying “the S word” doesn’t sound as traumatic, even if it was when coming out of my mother’s mouth.

Isn't it almost impossible to believe that none of the perfect games this season have been thrown against us? -O'sFan21

by Stacey on Jun 8, 2010 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

My wife claims to have cursed only once in her life

And it wasn’t even an F-bomb or “the S word.” Based on what I’ve seen and not heard, I’m inclined to believe her. She makes me look like Earl Weaver, and I don’t even think I’m that bad.

by Roarfrom34 on Jun 8, 2010 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sometimes I think maybe I'll give up cursing and become a classy lady

But I’d have to also give up O’s games in order to do so.

Isn't it almost impossible to believe that none of the perfect games this season have been thrown against us? -O'sFan21

by Stacey on Jun 8, 2010 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

please don't

my wife curses like a sailor and it’s awesome.

by Dingbat Charlie on Jun 8, 2010 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

As a former sailor ...

… I’d be interested in seeing if this is true.

I’ve learned that there are two means to swear impressively.

The first, often referred to as swearing like a sailor or trooper, is the extensive and creative stringing together of swear words.

The second is applying swearing with exquisite timing, preferrably in an unexpected environment and from someone not known to be a regular swearer.

Clarence, It's better to have a gun and not need it, then need a gun and not have it.

by timg56 on Jun 8, 2010 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

interesting analysis.

I’d say my wife leans towards the first category. She’s known to drop a GFD or JFC (or some variation), much to my amusement.

by Dingbat Charlie on Jun 8, 2010 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

If I have to do pennance for every JFC I've uttered ...

… I’ll be at it for a long, long, long time.

Clarence, It's better to have a gun and not need it, then need a gun and not have it.

by timg56 on Jun 9, 2010 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

Amen

When my wife curses — it ends well for me :)

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by Birdland in NC on Jun 9, 2010 8:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

murphy's law is in effect

"I have seen the future and his name is Matt Wieters." Keith Law

by Reddrummer9187 on Jun 8, 2010 4:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Year 1 of a four year contract

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by birdman on Jun 8, 2010 4:49 PM EDT reply actions  

for Rich Hill and Felix Pie!

Isn't it almost impossible to believe that none of the perfect games this season have been thrown against us? -O'sFan21

by Stacey on Jun 8, 2010 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

m

Doh

Insert something witty here.

by Knubles and Bits on Jun 8, 2010 5:17 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

we could get rich hill for the old scuffed up baseball i found while running this morning

its not even a real ball

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jun 8, 2010 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

gavin floyd was on the table

but we wanted chris fucking getz. i said it was idiotic pass then and i’ll say again now.

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by birdman on Jun 8, 2010 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

If only! then his ERA+ of 66 could be in an O's uniform.

I’d rather have a hurt Roberts.

Rub some $100 bills on it, you sell-out. -duck

by O'sFan21 on Jun 9, 2010 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'd still rather have Floyd

especially since the severity of Roberts’ injury is rumored to be season ending, which can mean long term effects. Floyd has sucked some serious dick this year but the season is 2 months old.

I came to camdenchat and all I got was this lousy avatar.

by birdman on Jun 9, 2010 2:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Eh

I’ve never been too impressed with him. And I’m keeping my faith that BRob will eventually be ok.

Rub some $100 bills on it, you sell-out. -duck

by O'sFan21 on Jun 9, 2010 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

i've been impressed with floyd either

he’s more a back of the rotation guy. but he’s a viable rotation pitcher. b-rob is getting old and middle IF tend to drop off quickly around his age.

I came to camdenchat and all I got was this lousy avatar.

by birdman on Jun 9, 2010 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah

Obviously if BRob is going to be hurt and/or suck Floyd probably provides more value. I’m holding out hope that BRob will be back and fine.

Rub some $100 bills on it, you sell-out. -duck

by O'sFan21 on Jun 9, 2010 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

oops, i haven't been impressed with floyd either.

I came to camdenchat and all I got was this lousy avatar.

by birdman on Jun 9, 2010 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

for shitty ass prospects

pie is the only one even considered in that deal that is even remotely decent at baseball

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jun 8, 2010 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not even surprised by this any more.

I think I always dreaded it from when he first went on the DL this season.

Baltimore is Baltimore. That's kind of what I know. - Manny Machado, 6/7/10

by Eat More Esskay on Jun 8, 2010 4:51 PM EDT reply actions  

at this point, we might as well continue to suck

whats the point of improving?

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jun 8, 2010 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

so AJ and BRob have been working out together in the offseason

and one is out for the season and the other is generally playing like shit. Just an observation.

by PhilR8 on Jun 8, 2010 5:35 PM EDT reply actions  

A silly one.

Rub some $100 bills on it, you sell-out. -duck

by O'sFan21 on Jun 9, 2010 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Said the guy who was criticizing Markakis's offseason workout routine

and lauding the routine of BRob and Jones. Markakis isn’t hitting for power, but he’s doing everything else pretty well.

by PhilR8 on Jun 9, 2010 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

Eh. He's been a mighty fine slap hitter.

Rub some $100 bills on it, you sell-out. -duck

by O'sFan21 on Jun 9, 2010 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

'slap hitter' is a bit demeaning

While the home runs have frustratingly not been there, he is on pace for over 40 doubles. Its not like theres a total lack of power.

by kba26 on Jun 9, 2010 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Eh

he’s slugging 40 points lower than he slugged last year which was 40 points lower than the year before. His power is disappearing before our eyes.

Rub some $100 bills on it, you sell-out. -duck

by O'sFan21 on Jun 9, 2010 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Awesome

Just fucking awesome.

To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa

by James F on Jun 8, 2010 5:41 PM EDT reply actions  

If this lingers....

Mattingly was a shell of his former self after his back injury. If Roberts is toast, the O’s are looking at needing to build up an entire infield. Perhaps they just drafted a SS.

It’s tough to be optimistic about the Orioles future.

by drj on Jun 8, 2010 5:55 PM EDT reply actions  

At this point does it seem strange that Brian didn’t just go ahead and have surgery? I mean, it’s a herniated disk. I’m no doctor, but that is the standard procedure, right?

Disc surgery, depending on the location and how invasive, is one of the riskiest elective surgeries there is. I say “elective” because it’s not a life-threatening condition. We’re talking about more than just “will you come back to baseball”. We’re talking about potential nerve damage for the rest of your life and/or paralysis. For this reason, surgery is one of the last options doctors recommend.

Note: This doesn’t mean people don’t have successful disc surgery all the time. It all depends on the particulars of the case. I don’t know Brian’s particulars.

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by zknower on Jun 8, 2010 6:10 PM EDT reply actions  

I can’t say I’m surprised either. I’m not sure I expect him to come back at all. How horrible is that? But yeah, herniated disk, baseball—these things don’t go together. Maybe shuffleboard.

I hope I’m wrong. I don’t think I have to express what a fucking shame it would be to lose Roberts just completely.

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-Eat More Esskay

by flaggthecat on Jun 8, 2010 6:11 PM EDT reply actions  

will carroll just tweeted

“Hearing bad, bad things about Brian Roberts. Hope to have update soon.”

Ghiroli also wrote something on orioles.com but I can’t link from here.

Isn't it almost impossible to believe that none of the perfect games this season have been thrown against us? -O'sFan21

by Stacey on Jun 8, 2010 6:14 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Two for one!

Britt on Orioles.com:

Roberts was progressing well in baseball-related activities up until his most recent setback, and had initial plans to play in an extended spring game on Friday. But Roberts was held out of Friday’s game, and any subsequent contests, with back pain that was believed to be unrelated to his injury. The Orioles second baseman has been slowly working his way back from a herniated disc in his lower back, which was originally suffered during offseason workouts and aggravated during the April 10 home opener.

Although there has been some concern about Roberts’ situation ultimately leading to season-ending surgery, Samuel did not address that option on Tuesday. However he did acknowledge in his pregame meeting with the media that Roberts’ return from the 60-disabled list is a long way off.

Unfortunately for the Orioles, closer Michael Gonzalez also isn’t progressing as quickly as the organization hoped.

While initially targeting a mid-June return, Gonzalez (left shoulder strain) had a bad bullpen session Friday and was given two days off before throwing an inning on Tuesday. Gonzalez gave up one hit and Samuel said reports were that Gonzalez was clocked in the mid-80s.

"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott

by zknower on Jun 8, 2010 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yep, time to give up on 2010 for both of them.

The goal now should be getting them healthy for next year. I really hope that’s possible, especially for Roberts.

"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver

by Vuff on Jun 8, 2010 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

WTF?

Will Carroll? Why is HE hearing things about Brian Roberts?

To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa

by James F on Jun 8, 2010 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

dunno

He’s the injury expert?

Isn't it almost impossible to believe that none of the perfect games this season have been thrown against us? -O'sFan21

by Stacey on Jun 8, 2010 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

BriBob will be to this team what Jim Palmer was to the '83 team

Hopefully we can get back to the playoffs before Brian is using a walker

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by PBR me ASAP! on Jun 8, 2010 6:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Brian may be using a walker next week

If this keeps up.

Insert something witty here.

by Knubles and Bits on Jun 8, 2010 6:58 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

If the problem is the disc, he may be back this year and he may not-- that's the best prediction you can make

This isn’t the Bionic Man; we don’t have the technology. Science does not yet know how to re-inflate discs routinely or why they can (sometimes) do it themselves. Surgery may or may not help. It’s called uncertainty; deal with it.

You like certainty? Julio Lugo certainly sucks. Oh, and this year is a 110-120-game suckfest. There.

"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.

by Titov on Jun 8, 2010 11:34 PM EDT reply actions  

Always love your shining Soviet optimism, Titov.

Baltimore is Baltimore. That's kind of what I know. - Manny Machado, 6/7/10

by Eat More Esskay on Jun 9, 2010 2:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yakov Smirnoff remains an inspiration to us all...

"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.

by Titov on Jun 9, 2010 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fuck

Y’all are saying you expected this from the moment he first reported his back injury; I did not. Now it hurts extra bad! Goddammit!

GODDAMMIT!!

by O Nina on Jun 9, 2010 7:44 AM EDT reply actions  

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