Orioles place Luke Scott on DL; Josh Bell called up from Norfolk(!)
by Stacey on Jul 1, 2010 3:13 PM EDT
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PrintVia Orioles Press Release:
The Orioles today announced that they have placed OF/DH LUKE SCOTT on the 15-day disabled list with a left hamstring strain. Scott was injured running the bases after hitting a home run in the 7th inning of last night’s win over the Oakland A’s. The club has recalled 3B JOSH BELL from Triple-A Norfolk to take Scott’s place on the roster. Bell will be making his major league debut.
Scott has batted .274 (61-223) with 12 home runs and 30 RBI in 66 games for the Orioles this season. He ranks 13th in the American League in slugging percentage (.520) and is 20th in on-base plus slugging (.868). Scott has hit .326 over his last 42 games since May 8 to raise his average from .177 to .274.
Bell batted .266 (76-286) with 24 doubles, 10 home runs and 44 RBI in 74 games for the Tides. In 24 games in June, he hit .272 (25-92) with nine doubles, four home runs, 19 RBI and a .500 slugging percentage. Bell’s 24 doubles are second-most in the International League and tied for 12th-most in all of minor league baseball. He is tied for 10th in the IL in home runs.
A fourth-round selection by the Los Angeles Dodgers in the 2005 First Year Player Draft, Bell was acquired by the Orioles along with RHP STEVE JOHNSON in exchange for LHP GEORGE SHERRILL on July 30, 2009.
Bell will wear uniform #25.
Um, what?
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Wait, is this guy Bell interviewing for manager or what?
"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.
Whaaaaaaaaat???
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
I’m thinkin’ about my doorbell
When ya gonna ring it, when ya gonna ring it!
Don't mess with the bull, young man. You'll get the horns.
that...
should TOTALLY be his walk up music.
At all hazards, a man must keep up appearances. Dignity, I say. Dignity above all, Governor. Hear, hear!
-Det. William "Bunk" Moreland
Wow. Just wow.
I guess he’s gonna DH? Or are we just saying, screw it, the season’s done let’s see if the young guys can do anything?
The Washington Wizards: providing career scoring nights for unknown opposing bench players since 2004.
Dan Connolly just posted on twitter
Big question with Bell is whether he’s up for 2 days until Pie is ready or is he up for good? Those questions will be asked 2day
Isn't it almost impossible to believe that none of the perfect games this season have been thrown against us? -O'sFan21
heh I've been waiting as well
Isn't it almost impossible to believe that none of the perfect games this season have been thrown against us? -O'sFan21
I think he might actually be going to kill McPhail
maybe that’s why we havnt heard from him yet. He’s probably sitting in a sniper roost somewhere waiting for the one shot one kill.
This is a fucking joke
a big fucking joke
Fire Julio Lugo.
I like baseball, movies, good clothes, fast cars, whiskey, and you... what else you need to know?
I think this is exciting.
I mean i know he played like shit in the minors but he is still a major prospect……..i’m sorry, i’m just looking for any bit of hope i can with this team
why all the hate?
He had a lousy start but he’s been playing better lately.
Don't mess with the bull, young man. You'll get the horns.
It's not about hating Bell
But he’s been playing better lately isn’t really a reason to call him up. Let the kid have some sustained success in AAA, where he’s now had a total of 287 at bats.
Isn't it almost impossible to believe that none of the perfect games this season have been thrown against us? -O'sFan21
not every player needs a full season in AAA!
he’s playing well now! .832 OPS in June.
Don't mess with the bull, young man. You'll get the horns.
he's still K-ing in more than a 1/4 of his plate appearances
and his K-BB ratio is still almost 3:1
he just two HR two nights ago including a grand slam!
again, he’s playing well now!
Don't mess with the bull, young man. You'll get the horns.
birdman, meet teeny-tiny sample sizes
sample sizes, birdman.
Fire Julio Lugo.
I like baseball, movies, good clothes, fast cars, whiskey, and you... what else you need to know?
yeah sure... so what
As a temporary option, he’s not a bad option.
Don't mess with the bull, young man. You'll get the horns.
you can't judge a player on one game.
Ever. No matter what. Period.
and i'm not, i'm saying he's hot now. i posted his june ops!
Don't mess with the bull, young man. You'll get the horns.
Ok, I said he's playing a lot better in June,
but he’s still got a 3:1 K-BB ratio in June, which is much less than ideal.
it's not idea, but i don't see it's a big deal since he's being brought up as a temp solution.
Don't mess with the bull, young man. You'll get the horns.
jesus
no one is saying he’s going to sit in the majors for the rest of the year.
if you know he’s going to come up at some point this year, now is a perfect time do do it. you have a built-in reason to send him back to AAA in two weeks that doesn’t get him stressed out.
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
umm, what?
i didnt say it was the end of the world dude. I just said it wasn’t ideal. He’s up and I hope he does well, but I just feel like hes getting rushed.
withdrawn
I think some people are treating it as the end of the world. sorry to conflate you with them.
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
I also think rushing batters
is WAY better than rushing pitchers… put the batters at the higher level and in about 3 months you know if they belong or are organizational filler
"People who write about spring training not being necessary have never tried to throw a baseball."
Sandy Koufax
by Birdland in NC on Jul 1, 2010 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Sure, but plenty of guys have a hot month in the minors and still have work to do
It just seems like a rush job.
Isn't it almost impossible to believe that none of the perfect games this season have been thrown against us? -O'sFan21
(goes to get a bucket of popcorn)
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
i was wondering about you,
i kinda thought u had a heart attack or something when you heard about this
there are non-computer things?
I’ll have to look into that.
Isn't it almost impossible to believe that none of the perfect games this season have been thrown against us? -O'sFan21
oh jesus, people need to chill about bell.
Don't mess with the bull, young man. You'll get the horns.
it doesn't work as well without the itals
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
focus easy james
He’s a temp solution. He’s playing just fine in the minors to be called up as a temp.
And yes, I believe certain players do not need a full season in the AAA.
Don't mess with the bull, young man. You'll get the horns.
Certain players don't
That’s not the issue.
To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa
His June stats
You cannot seriously be trying to persuade any of us based on his stat line from June.
To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa
i think the only thing that his june stats speak to is how he is playing NOW. it’s not something that should be used to forecast anything long term or should be used to judge him as a player OVERALL
Don't mess with the bull, young man. You'll get the horns.
They tell us nothing about how he is likely to play today, or tomorrow
Hot streaks, by and large, are simply myths. Almost all of the variation from month to month in a player’s performance is randomness – one way or another, monthly stats are simply variation away from the mean. A player who went 5-5 today is just as likely to go hitless the next as they are to continue to play well. If I flip a coin ten times, and it comes up heads each time, is it more likely to come up heads on the eleventh try?
To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa
They tell us nothing about how he is likely to play today, or tomorrow
I wouldn’t say NOTHING. It’s always hard to predict how someone will play on any particular day. In fact, it’s pretty impossible. But if you want to know how someone will play in the short term, the most recent data is the most reliable.
Don't mess with the bull, young man. You'll get the horns.
The data I trust has been constant his whole season
Bell has struck out in nearly 25% of his plate appearances every month this year. I’d say we’re lucky if he manages to strike out only one third of his at bats in Baltimore.
To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa
ok fine...
I acknowledge there are red flags in his stats… like i’ve already said, he’s playing well NOW, so I don’t see why it’s horrible idea to bring him up for a few games… I never said he would lit it up in BAL, not sure why what I said so controversial.
Don't mess with the bull, young man. You'll get the horns.
Well, it isn't a horrible idea to bring him up for a few games, as I said downthread
It is a horrible idea to bring him up for a few games because Luke got hurt and Pie needs a few days and “what the hell, right?” And that he hit well in the random period of time we know as “June” isn’t evidence to the contrary at all.
To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa
It is a horrible idea to bring him up for a few games because Luke got hurt and Pie needs a few days and "what the hell, right?"
Fine. I can see that point of view.
nd that he hit well in the random period of time we know as "June" isn’t evidence to the contrary at all.
Fine, I was just saying if you’re going to bring up someone on a temp basis, might as well bring up someone who’s playing well.
Don't mess with the bull, young man. You'll get the horns.
I'd dispute that .832 at AAA for his position is "playing well"
He’s playing better, but i dont think he’s near ready
i don't think he's ready either!
but ok, playing well might be too strong although the Tides’ park is a pitchers park from what I hear. his recent performance is fine then.
Don't mess with the bull, young man. You'll get the horns.
his park and luck-adjusted numbers
are actually much better than that, but still
that's not entirely true,
players can make tweaks in their swing and then lose that feel, which would cause the peaks/valleys, but for the most part, I agree with you
let me ask you this
what’s the point of bringing up Bell for three days to sit on the bench or DH until Pie’s ready? This kid is an actual prospect – one which still has a ton of issues to work out, mind you, and here the Orioles are, jerking him around, bringing him up when he isn’t ready yet.
I mean, yes, his June has been solid – but is one month of games (and not dominating games, but good games) really enough to justify this? It just screams to me of unnecessary risk, especially when you know they aren’t going to sit Tejada to play Bell.
Fire Julio Lugo.
I like baseball, movies, good clothes, fast cars, whiskey, and you... what else you need to know?
what’s the point of bringing up Bell for three days to sit on the bench or DH until Pie’s ready?
He should play everyday, but man, it’s not huge deal. If plays 1 or 2 games in BAL in then gets sent down, it’s not going to ruin his development. It burns an option but that probably was going to happen anyways.
Don't mess with the bull, young man. You'll get the horns.
its not the end of the world
but it’s pointlessly risky. papercuts, man…papercuts will doom this team.
Fire Julio Lugo.
I like baseball, movies, good clothes, fast cars, whiskey, and you... what else you need to know?
you might need that option later.
I hate wasting player’s options. And bringing him up for 3 days is most definitely wasting his option.
his point
is that Bell would probably be up sometime this year anyway (and hes right)…Im not concerned about the option.
Fire Julio Lugo.
I like baseball, movies, good clothes, fast cars, whiskey, and you... what else you need to know?
if he comes up to stay
if he comes up for 3 days and then you send him back down, it’s wasting his option
that option was going to be "wasted" anyways.
Don't mess with the bull, young man. You'll get the horns.
an option only gets used once per year
So they can send him down and call him up as many times as they want in 2010 and it only uses the one option.
Isn't it almost impossible to believe that none of the perfect games this season have been thrown against us? -O'sFan21
are you sure?
I thought it was every time you get sent down it uses an option?
yes, once an option is used, it good for the entire year.
Don't mess with the bull, young man. You'll get the horns.
ugh
when did you change your avatar? blechh. you are inviting a banning.
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
.
"Being an Orioles fan is like having very painful genital warts."
"harden the fuck up mike gonzalez."
The Signing Bonus: We're back in business.
by danielreese05 on Jul 1, 2010 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions
he was going to get some playing time this year regardless.
Don't mess with the bull, young man. You'll get the horns.
ahhhh, i just said all this below
should have read yours first.
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
I doubt he feels "jerked around"
I’m sure he feels thrilled at the prospect. The level of micromanaging going on around here is getting insane.
They planned to bring up Bell at some point this year. So that was going to be an option gone. Doesn’t really matter when it happens, unless you’re worried about service time, which is probably irrelevant in this case.
He gets a reward for his hard work. He knows it’s only a few days. It gives him confidence and a pat on the back and motivation all at the same time. I actually think it’s quite smart because he knows he’ll go back down when Pie comes back. Or maybe they’ll release Lou and keep Bell because they have a trade for Miggi in the works.
Whatever the answer, they clearly think Pie isn’t quite ready to come back (as they said all over the place yesterday), and this is a perfectly reasonable roster move. It strains credulilty to somehow suggest this is going to somehow destroy Bell’s development.
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
by zknower on Jul 1, 2010 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
It just makes me nervous
seeing how the young guys have performed this year, you know?
Isn't it almost impossible to believe that none of the perfect games this season have been thrown against us? -O'sFan21
KLaw brought that up in his chat today
there definitely seems to be an organization-wide development issue when players get to the majors
It just makes me nervous
It’s for 3 day. 3 DAYS. He’ll be fine.
Don't mess with the bull, young man. You'll get the horns.
A MASN guy on Twitter
Not anyone in the know or anything, just a guy, said they’ll probably cut a pitcher when he gets back, so he’ll be here at least until Scott gets back. Who knows, though.
Hand wringing. I’m good at it.
Isn't it almost impossible to believe that none of the perfect games this season have been thrown against us? -O'sFan21
even for a couple of week
I think that’s fine. I don’t think he’s ready to take over at 3B for the rest of the season though.
Don't mess with the bull, young man. You'll get the horns.
I am worried
that he might wilt during the transport from Norfolk to Baltimore.
Can they get a refrigerator truck of some sort? Or one of those special FedEx packs?
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
i'm little worried
that if he goes 0-4 tonight, people will be howling about stunting his development and confidence.
Don't mess with the bull, young man. You'll get the horns.
he won't go 0 for 4
as long as he remembers to focus easy.
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
focus easy is becoming my new favorite phrase.
Don't mess with the bull, young man. You'll get the horns.
by birdman on Jul 1, 2010 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
now that it’s out there, i’m going to work it in whenever i can.
it’s this month’s “harden the fuck up”.
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
my friend mentioned last night that he’s getting up to use the bathroom. i told him to focus easy. he looked at me strangely.
Don't mess with the bull, young man. You'll get the horns.
can't imagine why
how was his performance thereafter?
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
brilliant
the toilet never knew what hit him.
Don't mess with the bull, young man. You'll get the horns.
god, sports guys...
even well after its used by date, and maybe to this day, i counsel people to “stay medium” when they start freaking out. yes, i get quizzical looks.
…but i know zknower knows what i’m squawking about.
At all hazards, a man must keep up appearances. Dignity, I say. Dignity above all, Governor. Hear, hear!
-Det. William "Bunk" Moreland
actually, i haven't the faintest
although I can guess.
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
haha...
next to “the maroon and black”, “stay medium” was the signature zornism. i don’t miss zorn the coach, but i miss zorn the character. put another way, i wish he had been the head coach of somebody else’s team.
At all hazards, a man must keep up appearances. Dignity, I say. Dignity above all, Governor. Hear, hear!
-Det. William "Bunk" Moreland
right, right
i had forgotten.
yeah, i miss zorn the slip-n-slide guy. who fortunately coached for seattle.
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
Also, I don't really care how he feels to be honest
I’m sure he is thrilled. He should be thrilled.
Isn't it almost impossible to believe that none of the perfect games this season have been thrown against us? -O'sFan21
i care.
all other things being equal, happy ballplayers are better ballplayers.
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
Well sure, in that sense
But I don’t think you should let whether or not HE thinks it’s a good idea be a reason for anything. Of course he thinks it’s a good idea!
Isn't it almost impossible to believe that none of the perfect games this season have been thrown against us? -O'sFan21
i don't think i ever suggested that.
i was saying that giving him his major league debut is not “jerking him around”.
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
Can you see my reason for concern, though?
Regarding the struggles of our other young players this year? Can you see why it would make a person nervous?
Isn't it almost impossible to believe that none of the perfect games this season have been thrown against us? -O'sFan21
but it's not a fair parallel
he’s being called up as a temp solution not to take over Miggi’s job.
Don't mess with the bull, young man. You'll get the horns.
Yeah, probably
But who the fuck knows? No one has said that. Maybe there is a Miggi trade in the works and Bell will be here all season.
Isn't it almost impossible to believe that none of the perfect games this season have been thrown against us? -O'sFan21
then yeah,
I don’t think that’s a good solution. He needs more time at AAA.
Don't mess with the bull, young man. You'll get the horns.
I agree with this
If I thought this was for anything other than a few weeks, I’d be worried.
But I suspect if Miggi gets traded, Wiggi will play 3rd.
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
no.
i think there is an organization-wide problem with player development. But I don’t think Bell being promoted is likely to make or break his career.
It will take time to solve the organization-wide problem. Possibly months or years. We can’t wait until it’s solved to promote anyone from AAA.
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
you mean like Barry Bonds?
or A-Rod? or Ty Cobb? or Ted Williams? or Babe Ruth? is that what you mean?
Hm.
This is a fair point, I suppose. The confidence boost and encouragement could be a help.
We should be seeing three righty starters in the next four games, too, so hopefully he’ll get some hits.
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
We should be seeing three righty starters in the next four games, too, so hopefully he’ll get some hits.
I suspect this was given some consideration.
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
Yeah, I would hope so.
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
Why not?
Why not, as long as he is being brought up just for the time that Luke is on the DL. Bell was terrible in spring training and started very slow at Norfolk. Let’s take a look at him, but don’t keep him up the rest of the year.
Josh Bell is playing third base and batting 7th tonight
Isn't it almost impossible to believe that none of the perfect games this season have been thrown against us? -O'sFan21
Did Miggi make that face again?
Fire Julio Lugo.
I like baseball, movies, good clothes, fast cars, whiskey, and you... what else you need to know?
the gasface?
At all hazards, a man must keep up appearances. Dignity, I say. Dignity above all, Governor. Hear, hear!
-Det. William "Bunk" Moreland
Stacey
I kinda wanna go to this game tonight now…are you going? We could meet up! You know you like watching baseball with me!
Fire Julio Lugo.
I like baseball, movies, good clothes, fast cars, whiskey, and you... what else you need to know?
Yeah I want to go
I’m trying to figure out how I can leave work at six, drive 45 minutes home, change, and get back to the park by 7. Unless I go in my work clothes. But I’m wearing a skirt and heels. Ugh. Or I could just work an extra hour tomorrow. Yeah, that sounds like a plan.
Isn't it almost impossible to believe that none of the perfect games this season have been thrown against us? -O'sFan21
cool - ill see you there
the rest of you bums: goodbye.
Fire Julio Lugo.
I like baseball, movies, good clothes, fast cars, whiskey, and you... what else you need to know?
cool, text me when you get to Bmore
Isn't it almost impossible to believe that none of the perfect games this season have been thrown against us? -O'sFan21
can i come tonight as well?
i could be there in about seven hours.
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
that's cutting it kind of close
Isn't it almost impossible to believe that none of the perfect games this season have been thrown against us? -O'sFan21
Whoooooooooooooooah.
That settles it, I’m definitely watching this game.
…Hope he cranks one.
From the Land of Pleasant Living...
This is actually kind of exciting now.
Baltimore is Baltimore. That's kind of what I know. - Manny Machado, 6/7/10
by Eat More Esskay on Jul 1, 2010 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions
per Roch
he’s in the line-up and playing 3rd tonight. Miggi is DHing
So, Bell is Miggi's defensive replacement?
Whoo boy.
I've always said that one of the best ways to build a winner is to emulate another legendary success story, you know, like the Cubs. -- Dan Connolly
haha...
what’d the five fingers say to the face?
SLAP!
At all hazards, a man must keep up appearances. Dignity, I say. Dignity above all, Governor. Hear, hear!
-Det. William "Bunk" Moreland
On the bright side
I was def. worried that the Orioles were gonna rush Pie back, which would have been worse (in my opinion) than bringing up Bell.
Fire Julio Lugo.
I like baseball, movies, good clothes, fast cars, whiskey, and you... what else you need to know?
That actually is good news
Maybe now I can go see Felix in Bowie this weekend.
Isn't it almost impossible to believe that none of the perfect games this season have been thrown against us? -O'sFan21
Yeah, I agree.
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
Aw, Felix is still at Oriole Park
He says it’s probably for the best. I bet he’s kinda bummed. He probably needs a hug.
Isn't it almost impossible to believe that none of the perfect games this season have been thrown against us? -O'sFan21
Wasn't there also some questions as to whether or not he should continue batting from both sides of the plate given how awful is splits are against lefties?
It probably seems like he should figure that out before getting sustained playing time in the majors.
But I like that he is going to get an idea of what major-league pitching is like. Might give him a better idea as to what he needs to work on. I dont know..
Read this here
http://oriolesprospects.com/2010/06/14/is-it-time-for-josh-bell-to-give-up-switch-hitting/
I've always said that one of the best ways to build a winner is to emulate another legendary success story, you know, like the Cubs. -- Dan Connolly
that whole theory is absurd
he’s actually far more likely to suck even worse against lefties if he hits them left handed. He’s spent how many years watching all breaking balls come towards him, he’s not suddenly going to be able to deal with breaking balls away.
My dad was a switch hitter until his college coach made him hit everything right-handed. He could never figure out right-handed pitchers breaking stuff.
You don't think it'll ever happen?
Re: this quote from the article
Every day that goes by without the Orioles ending the switch hitting experiment is another day of development that Josh Bell will require in the minor leagues while he learns to face left handed pitching. In fact, it would not surprise me if some of Bell’s struggles this spring are due in part to an increased focus on his right handed hitting. It’s time to see what Bell can do by focusing full-time on hitting left handed. Maybe then we really will have our third baseman of the future.
I think the difference is that Bell is a professional prospect, and your father was a college player. Not to knock on your Dad, but there’s a difference in expectations and commitment there.
I've always said that one of the best ways to build a winner is to emulate another legendary success story, you know, like the Cubs. -- Dan Connolly
not to hate to much on oriolesprospects,
but you think that he’s an actual legit talent evaluator, the idea sounds good in theory, but it isnt gonna happen
based on one person's experience?
That’s a small population size.
I've always said that one of the best ways to build a winner is to emulate another legendary success story, you know, like the Cubs. -- Dan Connolly
fine, forget i mentioned my dad
it still isn’t gonna happen. The risk/reward isn’t worth it at this stage.
I'm missing something here
Are you saying he won’t ever figure out lefties, or that he needs time in the minors to work on that, because I’m with you if it’s the second one.
I've always said that one of the best ways to build a winner is to emulate another legendary success story, you know, like the Cubs. -- Dan Connolly
I'm saying there's no guarantee he'll figure out lefties
as a left-handed hitter. There’s also a pretty good chance that he worse at hitting them as a left-handed hitter. He’s a big prospect that crushes righties and has a platoon split, the platoon split is not enough of a problem to send him back to the low-minors and hope he can hit lefties as a left-handed hitter better.
i think they should just kill two birds with one stone
and have him face lefties as a left-handed hitter during this upcoming series. throw him in the really deep end.
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
First of all
I didn’t write the post, it was a guest post.
His struggles against lefties are clear. The guest poster is simply suggesting that the Orioles see how Bell hits lefties batting left handed. How do they know he’s going to be worse/or better that way? If he’s worse switch him back, if he’s better, great!
by Jordan Tuwiner on Jul 1, 2010 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions
like i said, i wasn't hating
i just don’t think it would work, i should of backed off the absurd thing
here's the thing
That would have to be at least a season-long commitment. It would take him the better part of a year to be able to figure that out, and also for there to be a large enough sample size that we know it isn’t a fluke. Then, if it doesn’t work, you can’t just switch him back and expect him to be fine again, it would take a while after he goes back to switch hitting for him to get his right-handed swing back.
Also, do you realize how many left-handed hitters struggle greatly against lefty-pitchers? That’s why lefties are always in such huge demand. I just don’t see it working out, he will most likely just have to be platooned a little in the late innings of games.
This was the guy who lots of people had in magic marker for a June/July callup
I just think its funny to watch people’s reactions.
Winter/Spring: Bell is going to be starting by July! He’ll fight Matusz for ROY!
April/May: Bell sucks! We want Sherrill back!
June: Bell is awesome! DFA Atkins and bring him up
July: Why are you bringing Bell up?!??!?
I’m not singling anyone out here.
I've always said that one of the best ways to build a winner is to emulate another legendary success story, you know, like the Cubs. -- Dan Connolly
Who said that in June?
Isn't it almost impossible to believe that none of the perfect games this season have been thrown against us? -O'sFan21
who said that winter/spring or april/may?
Don't mess with the bull, young man. You'll get the horns.
But
“He’ll fight Matusz for ROY!” though? Really?
Don't mess with the bull, young man. You'll get the horns.
I'm inserting a little overreaction for levity's sake here
There may also be sarcasm about.
I've always said that one of the best ways to build a winner is to emulate another legendary success story, you know, like the Cubs. -- Dan Connolly
I don't recall specifically
But he started crushing the ball then.
I assume you’re talking about the first part, we all wanted Outkins gone after April.
I've always said that one of the best ways to build a winner is to emulate another legendary success story, you know, like the Cubs. -- Dan Connolly
Well I wanted Atkins gone five minutes after he was signed
Isn't it almost impossible to believe that none of the perfect games this season have been thrown against us? -O'sFan21
We could have done better with Crede
And the money they gave the Beaver makes me nervous about AM’s negotiation abilities. That, or PA’s meddling again.
I've always said that one of the best ways to build a winner is to emulate another legendary success story, you know, like the Cubs. -- Dan Connolly
We could have done better with Michael Aubrey
Isn't it almost impossible to believe that none of the perfect games this season have been thrown against us? -O'sFan21
or Josh Bell
CIRCULAR REFERENCE!
(sorry, spent the last 2 days in Excel)
I've always said that one of the best ways to build a winner is to emulate another legendary success story, you know, like the Cubs. -- Dan Connolly
I spent last two days in word
sorry, has to do it
what's crede up to?
does anyone have him yet?
"Being an Orioles fan is like having very painful genital warts."
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by danielreese05 on Jul 1, 2010 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Nope
I've always said that one of the best ways to build a winner is to emulate another legendary success story, you know, like the Cubs. -- Dan Connolly
Is he going to wear long sleeves?
to cover his ink
According to Britt, Pie pleaded to come back
but ultimately admitted he could use a couple more days
What the fuck just happened?
Was this even remotely rumored?
Baltimore is Baltimore. That's kind of what I know. - Manny Machado, 6/7/10
I hadn't even heard a whisper
I’m sure theres others with the ear closer to the ground, but I was shocked at first.
im...confused to say the least
why not aubrey? this answers one question but raises so many others…
"Being an Orioles fan is like having very painful genital warts."
"harden the fuck up mike gonzalez."
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why not reimold?
he’s starting to rake down there and he’s already played in the big boy league.
plus if it’s just for the DH spot…
"Being an Orioles fan is like having very painful genital warts."
"harden the fuck up mike gonzalez."
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by danielreese05 on Jul 1, 2010 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions
June OPS = .685
I've always said that one of the best ways to build a winner is to emulate another legendary success story, you know, like the Cubs. -- Dan Connolly
vs. Bell's .840
I knew he was hitting better, but I didn’t know his OBP was so respectable this month.
That K:BB ratio is still atrocious.
From the Land of Pleasant Living...
Well, he's away from the team dealing with family issues
Doubt that’s the circumstance for him to jump back to the bigs and do well.
To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa
We've officially lost the initiative
This move might not be a big deal. The scouting department might really believe Bell is ready, and might be right. They might have been planning this because they have a deal close for Miggi. This might just be to check Bell out against major league pitchers to indentify things to work on back in Norfolk, things they can’t see against AAA pitching.
But, like with the Matusz promotion last season, it is clear that this was dictated not by an internal plan, not by its own merits, but based on factors that are, ultimately, irrelevant – the needs of a major league team that is the worst in baseball and will not be moving out of the cellar anytime soon. I am incapable of believing that this is by design of our front office. Instead of dictating what we do next based on strategy, we’re on our heels.
And that situation will always be a losing one. So long as that persists, I see nothing but failure on the horizon. However this move turns out concerns me infinitely less than what it tells me about the people in charge.
To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa
Britt's latest tweet
MacPhail denied the Bell callup was about a pending trade of Tejada or Wigginton. said it was a simple move for a few days til Pie.
Isn't it almost impossible to believe that none of the perfect games this season have been thrown against us? -O'sFan21
Well, he'd have to say that about the trades
But that’s just brilliant. So if Bell tears the cover off the ball, he won’t stay?
To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa
big if
but i think he’d stay and they’d send down fox right?
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by danielreese05 on Jul 1, 2010 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions
fox doesn't have any options
Isn't it almost impossible to believe that none of the perfect games this season have been thrown against us? -O'sFan21
so he's basically stuck in the majors
great, just what we need, a useless utility player.
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"harden the fuck up mike gonzalez."
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by danielreese05 on Jul 1, 2010 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions
I have no idea
Trying to predict the next moves of this organization is well beyond my predictive faculties. Ask Kenny Kingston.
To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa
This is a tough question
The thing is, we’re carrying an extra pitcher right now – we replaced Lou with Koji. And we were supposed to lose a pitcher when we brought up Pie.
So, with Luke gone, when Pie comes back, we will theoretically be dropping a pitcher, not Bell.
To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa
That's how I would read the situation as well.
Baltimore is Baltimore. That's kind of what I know. - Manny Machado, 6/7/10
by Eat More Esskay on Jul 1, 2010 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions
andy es un matador!
At all hazards, a man must keep up appearances. Dignity, I say. Dignity above all, Governor. Hear, hear!
-Det. William "Bunk" Moreland
Oh, and by the way...
…this is TOTALLY the kind of decision that should be made on the fly while you’re spending two hours interviewing Rick Dempsey and however long the interview with Eric Wedge today is supposed to last.
To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa
Not that this actually makes the timing any better since it means they only spent hours thinking about it, but the timeline’s still different
OK
I dunno. Whatever. I am just going to stop thinking about this. Sometimes, it is very hard for me to not hate this team and to want it to fail, because it deserves to fail, and if it doesn’t it will simply make these morons think that they did things the right way rather than waking them up.
To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa
so they told bell last night
Before or after they called Felix last night and told him if Scott goes on the DL he’ll he activated? Felix was moving his shit back into the clubhouse.
Isn't it almost impossible to believe that none of the perfect games this season have been thrown against us? -O'sFan21
by Stacey on Jul 1, 2010 5:29 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Fucking Samuel
“He’s only going to be here, hopefully, for a short period of time,” interim manager Juan Samuel said.
Samuel added with a smile that Bell could go 4-for-4 and change those plans.
“He’s going to get a little taste and see what the big leagues are all about,” Samuel said.
Yeah, let’s make sure he gets a taste of being on a team that is vying to be one of the worst in the history of baseball. We wouldn’t want him not to know what the big leagues are all about".
To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa
did we hate juan this much when he was just a 3B coach?
i can’t even remember
"Being an Orioles fan is like having very painful genital warts."
"harden the fuck up mike gonzalez."
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by danielreese05 on Jul 1, 2010 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions
that's a bold statement
"Being an Orioles fan is like having very painful genital warts."
"harden the fuck up mike gonzalez."
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by danielreese05 on Jul 1, 2010 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Don't forget about the Windmill effect
Baltimore is Baltimore. That's kind of what I know. - Manny Machado, 6/7/10
by Eat More Esskay on Jul 1, 2010 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah...
i think samuel does LESS damage as manager than 3b coach. i think he was WAY too aggressive in sending guys and threw a bunch of dudes under the bus. i think trembles was a big time enabler of the aggression, but y’know…so much easier to dislike the juan.
At all hazards, a man must keep up appearances. Dignity, I say. Dignity above all, Governor. Hear, hear!
-Det. William "Bunk" Moreland
Agreed on that
I def. hated him more when he was the 3B coach. He’s still a shit manager though.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
I'm confused.
Something like this is a MacPhail decision, what do you want Samuel to say?
This is Bell's sixth professional season
… so he’s hardly being ‘rushed,’ and probably won’t be overwhelmed by the experience. The fact the team is bad means the expectations on him are lessened. And, if he’s been playing well lately, the Orioles are rewarding him since an opportunity presented itself.
He is 23, will be 24 in November, and since he’s from Florida he’s been been playing year-round his entire life, which has been spent getting ready for this, so he has plenty of seasoning. From the numbers I see, he does strike out a lot, but has had more hits than strikeouts at each level except High-A.
Baltimore used his option for the year when it sent him out in the spring, so those objections are unfounded.
Baltimore used his option for the year when it sent him out in the spring, so those objections are unfounded.
Did they? I think you might be right since he was on the 40 man roster…
And the whole being rushed stuff is just way overblown since he’ll be sent back to minors very soon anyways.
Don't mess with the bull, young man. You'll get the horns.
Well that's good news!
If six pro seasons is all it takes, then 2011 will be the year we finally get to bring up Billy Rowell! I hear he’s got some pop in his bat….
To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa
dude, please.
At all hazards, a man must keep up appearances. Dignity, I say. Dignity above all, Governor. Hear, hear!
-Det. William "Bunk" Moreland
I agree with the stellerz fan
and that takes some doing
"People who write about spring training not being necessary have never tried to throw a baseball."
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by Birdland in NC on Jul 1, 2010 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Imagine how the Dodgers feel right now
Sherrill has been absolutely awful, and L.A. won’t have Bell to replace Casey Blake at 3B next season. Plus the Dodgers traded catcher Carlos Santana, also 23 years old, to get Blake two years ago. Yeah, getting to the playoffs is great and the ultimate goal, but sometimes the price is a bit exorbitant.
this,
and by the way, i know most people havn’t noticed because of Strasburg, but Santana is absolutely raking right now. He’s 24, not 23 though.
He's been pretty beast
and pretty sweet fantasy wise as well.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
When you neutralize for park/luck, those numbers start to look quite a bit better
He’s facing a righty tonight, so let’s see what he can do.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
yeah, once you neutralize luck, his OPS jumps to .844.
His MLE is terrible though (.682 OPS).
Don't mess with the bull, young man. You'll get the horns.
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