A's 8 -- O's 1, This is how we do it.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jul 1, 2010 10:25 PM EDT
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First off, happy Josh Bell Day. The rookie third baseman was 1-4 with a single and a strikeout. He made one good play to start a double play and he also made a throwing error.
Jake Arrieta made his 5th start of the year. He went 6 innings gave up three earned runs and one unearned run. He gave up seven hits and walked four, while striking out two. He got the loss and lowered his ERA to 5.81. It wasn't really a bad start. He looked good in the first and didn't throw too many pitches, but a bad second inning really sunk him. Frank Mata was terrible, allowing four and only getting one out. Matt Albers allowed one runner of Mata's to score, while pitching one and two thirds innings without giving up a run of his own. Koji pitched a scoreless inning.
Corey Patterson scored the lone run on a Nick Markakis sac fly, Patterson was 2-4 with a stolen base and a double. Jones, Wieters, Tejada, Bell, and Markakis each had one single each. We left 7 runners on and went 0-5 w/ RISP.Ty Wiggington also made a 5th inning error.
There was not much in the way of pitching today, but most importantly, there was zero offense, resulting in the 54th O's loss. Now that's entertainment!
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Xavier Avery tonight
Single, double, triple, walk.
Isn't it almost impossible to believe that none of the perfect games this season have been thrown against us? -O'sFan21
by Stacey on Jul 1, 2010 10:40 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
It is good news, we've been moved ahead of the Pirates!
We’re number twenty-nine! We’e number twenty-nine!
Screw power rankings, I want to see suck rankings.
"MONTANEZ: Alas! I cannot hit. Deal with it."
-Eat More Esskay
The NL doesn't count.
The stock market will never recover, our armies will never again be #1, and our children will drink filthy water for the rest of their lives - HST
by the fix is in on Jul 2, 2010 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions
One thing not mentioned in the recap is that the defense was really atrocious tonight.
Josh Bell’s error is mentioned. You can kind of forgive him for having one too-strong throw in his major league debut. You know he has to have been amped up and full of nerves.
Adam Jones and Corey Patterson really played poorly in the outfield and that didn’t show up on the stat sheet because they didn’t get scored with errors but they just made some bad plays. Patterson misplayed a ball in left field and tripped over himself, turning what I felt should have been a catch into a two-run double that put the score at 3-1.
Jones made a couple of bad plays in the same inning that led to Mata giving up four runs – he allowed somebody to go first-to-third on a soft single to center and took a bad route on another ball out there that led to more runs. Jim Palmer bristled a bit about it on the MASN broadcast and commented that it was the play of “someone who’s not working on their craft every day”.
That was really the worst part of tonight. I mean, the young starter is going to take his lumps, fine. Josh Bell’s not going to hit five bombs while he’s getting his cup of coffee (but it would be awesome if he did). But there was some low-effort baseball on defense in the non-Nick Markakis sections of the outfield and that was very disappointing to watch. It’s one thing if guys are busting their asses and doing the best they can but tonight that was definitely not the case.
Baltimore is Baltimore. That's kind of what I know. - Manny Machado, 6/7/10
by Eat More Esskay on Jul 1, 2010 11:01 PM EDT reply actions
defense was miserable
When Corey Patterson fell flat on his face in the outfield, a switch flip and I started to hate him.
Isn't it almost impossible to believe that none of the perfect games this season have been thrown against us? -O'sFan21
Just so.
I haven’t been a Patterson hater up until this point but that play flipped a switch for me too. I’m just tired of him. I guess maybe it was a bad night for him or who knows what but it sucked and perhaps irrationally I am holding it against him.
Baltimore is Baltimore. That's kind of what I know. - Manny Machado, 6/7/10
by Eat More Esskay on Jul 1, 2010 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions
I have been to the game the past two nights
And watched Corey look ridiculous the past two nights. If he wants to get a beer and maybe make out a little, I could get on board with that. But he needs to get the hell off my baseball team.
Isn't it almost impossible to believe that none of the perfect games this season have been thrown against us? -O'sFan21
by Stacey on Jul 1, 2010 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Tonight Andrew and I were talking about Corey
and how we’re not sure he was ever good at defense. Maybe we just think that we remember him being good at defense because of that one picture of him going over the wall that we alway see.
Isn't it almost impossible to believe that none of the perfect games this season have been thrown against us? -O'sFan21
Eh, he had some remarkable defensive seasons...
…according to UZR – notably a 24.6 with the Cubs in 2004 and a 15.7 in 2006 with us.
I don’t think it is a coincidence that both of those were his first full season with each team. Scorey reminds me of BJ Upton – loads of tools and talent, and simply without the drive and brains to make the most of them. When he thought he could coast into stardom, he put a bit more effort in, but as it didn’t magically happen, he became sullen, and resentful, and lazier. Scorey almost certainly could be a great defender. But he’s essentially out of major league baseball at this point, and he can be adequate without trying hard, and why bother?
This happens to a lot of super-toolsy guys – Upton and Jeff Francouer are two of the most prominent recent examples. You can have all the talent in the world but in the majors, you’re going to hit that wall if you aren’t willing to do more than rely on your talent. That right now I think is the big fear with Adam Jones – he’s so good without playing smart that he might not see what he needs to add to his game. And part of what I hate so much about Scorey being on this team is that Adam is being paired with exactly his worst possible outcome, and we treat him like he’s a leadoff hitter.
On a human level, I find the Corey Patterson story rather compelling – a person who was handed all the natural gifts needed for greatness, but just didn’t have that thing that A-Rod has or that Griffey had – that need to work extra hard to be the very best. There is something terribly tragic about that, and I’m sure it has taken a toll on Corey.
But it is poison to a baseball team. It is why Atlanta cast off Francouer in the end, why Tampa will in the next year or so jettison BJ and why they dumped Delmon Young on Minny. Corey has had chance after chance and blown them all. And he knows it. And so he’s a guy who doesn’t want, for whatever reason, to give the most of himself.
To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa
I don't know about the whole lazy thing
he busts his ass on every single ground ball and pop up unlike an Upton. He’s usually standing on second base by the time his fly balls are caught. I think he’s just not that good at judging the ball. I think people see him run and see that he has good power and assume that he’s got all the tools in the world, but he’s just not that good of a baseball player despite being athletic and having power. He’s not a very good hitter, he doesn’t have a good batting eye, he doesn’t judge the ball well in the outfield, and he doesn’t have a good throwing arm. He doesn’t seem particularly toolsy to me other than speed and power.
Rub some $100 bills on it, you sell-out. -duck
Like tool, get it? Get it?
Work with me here, pretend you’re in second grade.
"MONTANEZ: Alas! I cannot hit. Deal with it."
-Eat More Esskay
he can still flat out fly, too...
but maybe he’s lost enough of a step that his speed can’t compensate for his lack of judgment.
what are the fabled five tools, anyways?
At all hazards, a man must keep up appearances. Dignity, I say. Dignity above all, Governor. Hear, hear!
-Det. William "Bunk" Moreland
by j.q. higgins on Jul 2, 2010 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions
running speed – check
arm strength – nope
hitting for average – nope
hitting for power – yep
fielding – not even close
Rub some $100 bills on it, you sell-out. -duck
aw, geez...
QUITE!
At all hazards, a man must keep up appearances. Dignity, I say. Dignity above all, Governor. Hear, hear!
-Det. William "Bunk" Moreland
by j.q. higgins on Jul 2, 2010 12:20 AM EDT up reply actions
Hitting for average
Check.
Bring back Andino.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jul 2, 2010 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions
really????
lifetime average of .253 – is that a good average???
The highest he’s EVER hit in a season is .298 and that wasn’t a full season. The highest he’s ever hit in a full season is .276. If that counts as being a good average hitter I think we need to rethink things.
Even in the minor leagues his liftetime average is .288 – nothing special.
He most definitely does NOT have the hitting for average tool.
Rub some $100 bills on it, you sell-out. -duck
.293 this year.
Better than everyone but Markakis, so why all the hate? His four long balls nearly rival Tejada, and his 13 stolen bases are a big key to getting runs scored. I know his defense has sucked, but he has actually been on of our best hitters.
Bring back Andino.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jul 2, 2010 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Stolen bases are nice but don't really have THAT much impact
Also, yeah he’s batting .293 right now, but 30 year old guys who were sitting on their couch when the season began because nobody wanted them don’t just GET better. If he continues to play, it’ll go back to where it belongs.
Plus, HE FELL FLAT ON HIS FACE LAST NIGHT TRYING TO CATCH A BALL. I cannot get over it.
Isn't it almost impossible to believe that none of the perfect games this season have been thrown against us? -O'sFan21
.293 this year
and it’s 5 points below his career high! Not impressive. Doesn’t make it one of his tools.
His four long balls nearly rival Tejada, and his 13 stolen bases are a big key to getting runs scored.
I gave him credit for the two tools. Not sure where you’re going here.
Rub some $100 bills on it, you sell-out. -duck
I'd just like to say...
this past season I played LF/CF almost every game.
Two very different angles on any balls hit, be it a gapper, pop up, or ground ball. I felt much more comfortable in CF.
Corey is a CFer, not saying he’s an all-star or GGer, just saying.
"Amber has quick hands." ~ Joe Angel, 4/8/10
Wow.
That seems like a major development for you. I feel like it should be commemorated.
For my part, I don’t hate him because I don’t expect anything from him that he isn’t capable of. He just doesn’t belong in the majors, and certainly not as a starter.
"MONTANEZ: Alas! I cannot hit. Deal with it."
-Eat More Esskay
I've hated Corey Patterson since 2006.
Welcome the club.
"Might as well just win this game." - Adam Jones, 4/17/2008
Adam Jones is the tits.
by KenDixonFanClub on Jul 2, 2010 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions
Jeff Z went to bat for Adam this morning
and said he’s out in the OF 4 hours before every game, every day, taking fly balls from T-Bone. So, apparently, lack of practice isn’t the problem. Which worries me even more.
"If you go up there clueless, you're going to come back [to the dugout] clueless. It's that simple." - Nick Markakis
For a second I thought you said Jay Z went to bat for Adam this morning.
I would have found that a lot more impressive.
Rub some $100 bills on it, you sell-out. -duck
This game
Hurt my inner child. Mr Mata should be ashamed for the suck sauce he puts on those sno-cones he throws out there. I had to go to this to put a sad smile on my face:
Did I win the Josh Bell pool?
I called 1 for 5 with an error. If the Orioles had had any kind of offense, he’d have gotten a fifth AB and likely wouldn’t have gotten a hit.
Also, 4 walks does not qualify as “not really a bad start” in my book.
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
Letting the days go by
Letting the days go by/let the O’s hold me down
Letting the days go by/birds flying upside down
Into the muck again/in the silent water
Under the rocks and stones/there is no hope for us now.
Same as it ever was…Same as it ever was…Same as it ever was…
Same as it ever was…Same as it ever was…Same as it ever was…
Same as it ever was…Same as it ever was…
That's bullshit!
It’s not the same as it ever was! He didn’t go behind the rubber!
"MONTANEZ: Alas! I cannot hit. Deal with it."
-Eat More Esskay
and you may ask yourself
why such a sucky team?
and you may ask yourself,
where is that power hitting first baseman?
and you may tell yourself,
these are not the birds of my youth
and you may say to yourself
my god! what am I watching?
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
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