PHN 3 - Orioles 2, Over-managing DOES NOT win games.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jul 2, 2010 9:52 PM EDT
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PrintProps to Brad Bergesen, he pitched a great game today. In the first seven innings he gave up four hits, he walked none, and he struck out six. Two of the hits were solo home runs by J.D. Drew. The first Drew homer was very questionable, as a fan made contact with the ball, Samuel needed to ask for a replay, but I guess he wasn't paying attention. Other than those two mistakes, Bergesen was absolutely stellar. Entering the 8th inning, he had thrown 89 pitches. To start the 8th he struck out Darnell McDonald looking, and retired Kevin Cash on a ground out. Next up Marco Scutaro gets a double off a 1-0 fastball. That brings up Eric Patterson, 0-3, hitting .202. Now wheather or not Will Ohman comes in, it is likely that Daniel Nava would pinch hit for Patterson. That aside, up until the Scutaro double, Bergesen had retired 10 hitters in a row. But wait, says Juan Samuel, Bergesen has hit the magical 100 pitch mark, this must mean I have to take him out. So instead of letting Bergesen finish his great outing, he cuts him short at 7 and 2/3 innings.
Will Ohman comes into face pinch hitter Daniel Nava, who pops a single down the line, out of the reach of Ty Wigginton, Julio Lugo, and Nick Markakis. I'm not saying it was a great hit, but there is no doubt that Brad Bergesen should have stayed in to finish the 8th inning. His final line would contain 7 and 2/3's innings pitched, 5 hits, 3 earned runs, zero walks, a career high 7 strikeouts, and his 5th loss. He managed to lower his ERA by .39, a significant portion.
The offense consitsted of a Nick Markakis solo home run and a two out RBI single by Corey Patterson to score Josh Bell. The Orioles managed seven hits, all singles with the exception of the Markakis long ball. Everyone managed to reach base once, via hit or walk, except Ty Wigginton who took the lone 0-4. The O's just couldn't manage another clutch hit after the Patterson single. Nick Markakis made a great diving catch in right in addition to his homer.
The decision to take out Bergy has me pretty irate and I think rightfully so. But at some point the O's needed to put more runs up on the board and ultimately bad offense hurt them once again.
The homeboy Jeremy Guthrie takes the hill on Saturday.
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hi folks i got this ? in right before you shut down the game thread.
i saw your gary thorne on nesn and wanted an O’S fan’s take on him . it was a close game !
by RED SOX are #1 in my heart on Jul 2, 2010 9:58 PM EDT reply actions
I like him.
He’s a pretty good play-by-play guy. He does get excited about the O’s when they’re doing well, or have a big comeback, or whatever; but, he’s not a homer by any means, which is good, too. He can’t identify pitches at all, but that’s my only quibble — and when Jim Palmer or Mike Flanagan are in the booth, that’s fine, because they can handle that.
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
Sa-a-a-a-y, would you folks be interested in a radio announcer? No, really, name your terms, we're talking fire sale here...
"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.
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His rendering of the 7th Inning stretch Jack Daniel's advertisement is always amusing
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….responsibly.”
"This is the Nineties, Bubba, and there is no such thing as Paranoia. It's all true."~Hunter S. Thompson
I think its about time for a daily juan samuel WTF!
Whether the ball was a HR or not you have to come out and question it. Then you take out Bergy because he gives up 1 hit? I couldn’t stop yelling “idiot” at the tv after that!
I think it's pretty clear at this point just that Juan Samuel is a deep-cover Russian agent
"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.
by Titov on Jul 2, 2010 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'd rather lose in a shut-out than a close game
"All those who look down on me, I'm tearing down your balcony." -Eminem
well
at least this guy made me laugh the loss off….
"Being an Orioles fan is like having very painful genital warts."
"harden the fuck up mike gonzalez."
The Signing Bonus: We're back in business.
The game-winning single was one of the most Jeteresque hits you'll see.
But it was good enough to lose the game for us.
I agree that Bergy should have gotten the chance to get out of the inning. The Scutaro double was solid contact but that’s the case where I think you’ve got to let your young guy ride a little bit. Only 100 pitches – one more batter at least.
Well, maybe tomorrow we can get them.
Baltimore is Baltimore. That's kind of what I know. - Manny Machado, 6/7/10
by Eat More Esskay on Jul 2, 2010 10:32 PM EDT reply actions
And in other news, this just in: Germany 2 Argentina 1
Oops, I forgot I’m not supposed to reveal sports results from the future. Oh well, it can’t hurt just this once. But keep your bets modest or Doc Brown’ll kill me!
OK, Guts tonight for the evener. Go O’s!
"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.
I missed the game
How did Bergy get all those k’s????
Rub some $100 bills on it, you sell-out. -duck
beacuse you played the Pawsox tonight
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by bestbostonsports on Jul 2, 2010 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Somewhat generous strike zone,
but three were swinging third strikes. I think his slider might’ve been a little better tonight, and he might’ve thrown his change a little more, but I didn’t get to pay as close attention as I would’ve liked.
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
Markakis is good
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by bestbostonsports on Jul 2, 2010 11:30 PM EDT reply actions
You can't have him.
Bring back Andino.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jul 3, 2010 1:06 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm counting this in my better staff/more wins column
Unacceptable loss Juan. Gtfo plz
by GeoffreyA on Jul 3, 2010 3:10 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
What pisses me off
is that there have been at least 2 (I think 3 but not sure) very questionable home runs hit against the O’s since Samuel took over and he hasn’t done a fucking thing except stare at the scoreboard.
The only life he has shown in that dugout is when B2B got nailed in the back.
No matter who the manager, our young pitchers seem to never finish innings.
If Matusz would have finished his innings in some of his starts, he’d have a few more W’s.
Mi firma está escrito en español!
by BaltimoreSportsFan on Jul 3, 2010 7:37 AM EDT reply actions
Exactamente, BSF & GA
Sox radio team (Castigliano/O’Brien) were ALL over this decision as soon as Juan walked out of the dugout. The point made was, O’s managers (at least the last 3) are consistently not letting the young pitchers learn how to make big outs late, at least against the Red Sox anyway, and that pattern is hurting their development. Win or lose, (and no matter whether the blooper is catch-able or not), Bergesen needs to pitch the Nava at-bat when he’s at 100 pitches. Unless he’s so beat his mechanics have gone wrong (which can’t possibly have been the case last night). It’s not like it was his first game in the majors. Gives him confidence if he gets the inning-ending out, gives him something to learn from if he doesn’t. Too bad, he pitched a really great game. Where’s it been?
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