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So, yeah. No bird droppings today. Sorry 'bout that. Don't blame duck! I told him I'd do it. Of course, I told him I'd do it BEFORE I went to the wine bar after the game. 

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Tatum demoted

And of course, the O’s handled it quite wrongly, not talking to Tater until this morning. The result: Britt, on twitter:

tatum is upset said he doesn’t feel like he did anything wrong

He didn’t do anything wrong. The Orioles did a bunch of things wrong, like waiting until the week before the deadline to make any deals, and deciding that the club needs 13 relievers and five outfielders. And even in this circumstance, Tater should have known days ago that this was likely to happen and was likely to be a very temporary move that is only taking place for roster reasons.

But of course we continue instead to do a horrible job of communicating with our players and of managing our roster. I suppose if Andy manages to get a real coup for Wiggy, Tejada, or Scorey in the next week, it will be justified. Raise your hand if you think that will happen.

To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa

by James F on Jul 25, 2010 11:35 AM EDT reply actions  

Poor Tater.

Oh and now we’re warming up Uehara. He’ll die. He will actually DIE if he pitches in this heat. -KenDixonFanClub

by Stacey on Jul 25, 2010 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Anyone think his injury had anything to do with the choice?

"[The] dictionary is the only place that success comes before work." - Vince Lombardi

by BaltimoreSportsFan on Jul 25, 2010 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

No

It was widely reported that this was going to be the choice before the injury. And if it was the injury, that would have made it easier, since you could just DL Tatum for 15 days and save the problem of his being upset both by the team not appreciating the job he’s done and of Tatum being pissed because he’s losing 10 days of a major league salary.

To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa

by James F on Jul 25, 2010 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

This is the sort of thing that guarantees

No player in his right mind would want to play for the Orioles organization. You know that Guthrie and Wigginton are counting the hours before they’re dealt to a team that knows what it’s doing.

by Fred Sanford on Jul 25, 2010 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Orioles are good about this sometimes

Think about Jim Johnson, and how we had demoted him to the minors and then he turned out to be hurt, so they promoted him back to the majors to put him on the DL to make sure he was still drawing a major league salary.

It isn’t good. But it isn’t calamitous. It is just our usual level of incompetence.

To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa

by James F on Jul 25, 2010 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Here is Britt's blog on Tatum

http://brittghiroli.mlblogs.com/archives/2010/07/tatum_on_being_the_guy_who_tak.html

“They just said go down to [Triple-A] Norfolk and we will see when we can get you back,” said Tatum, whose roster spot will be assumed by catcher Matt Wieters.

“I didn’t [do anything to get sent down. I didn’t do anything. [President of baseball operations] Andy [MacPhail] told me it wasn’t for lack of production or anything like that, it’s just the fact that our bullpen’s been taxed and they need to carry 13 pitchers. And I’m the guy that gets to take the fall.

It sucks. But what can you do? I understand why I got to go down, but at the same time you don’t understand. [MacPhail] said he was going to try to get me back up here when he can, but he couldn’t make any promises, if a trade doesn’t go through, how long I’ll be down there for."

Oh and now we’re warming up Uehara. He’ll die. He will actually DIE if he pitches in this heat. -KenDixonFanClub

by Stacey on Jul 25, 2010 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Do you feel like kneecapping Scorey or should I?

To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa

by James F on Jul 25, 2010 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Are you sure kneecaping isn't a little harsh?

"[The] dictionary is the only place that success comes before work." - Vince Lombardi

by BaltimoreSportsFan on Jul 25, 2010 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Got any better ideas?

To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa

by James F on Jul 25, 2010 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm thinking.

"[The] dictionary is the only place that success comes before work." - Vince Lombardi

by BaltimoreSportsFan on Jul 25, 2010 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Stealing his car so he can't get to the park.

"[The] dictionary is the only place that success comes before work." - Vince Lombardi

by BaltimoreSportsFan on Jul 25, 2010 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

trade him...

isn’t getting anything useful for scorey pretty much a coup? dude’s career was on life support and he was inked for very little.

At all hazards, a man must keep up appearances. Dignity, I say. Dignity above all, Governor. Hear, hear!

-Det. William "Bunk" Moreland

by j.q. higgins on Jul 25, 2010 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have a very hard time believing...

…we can get anything useful for Scorey.

To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa

by James F on Jul 25, 2010 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't care if we get something "useful"

You can give me a career AA reliever for him and i’d be all for it. Fortify the minors and get him the hell of my 40 man roster.

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Jul 25, 2010 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

PS

I love Corey. I always have (quite irrationally). He’s just redundant at this point, and we could use the roster space.

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Jul 25, 2010 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not disagreeing

I just don’t see the outcome with trading Scorey (if even possible) as being any better than simply designating him.

To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa

by James F on Jul 25, 2010 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe it'll make the FO feel better about it

That way they aren’t paying him for nothing. They get something in return for him. Gotta keep the morale up in Birdland!

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Jul 25, 2010 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

i don't...

and i’m talking a really low bar, here.

At all hazards, a man must keep up appearances. Dignity, I say. Dignity above all, Governor. Hear, hear!

-Det. William "Bunk" Moreland

by j.q. higgins on Jul 25, 2010 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Samuel will just call him a cab

I suppose we could trap him in his home “Misery” style.

To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa

by James F on Jul 25, 2010 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can be in charge of that.

Oh and now we’re warming up Uehara. He’ll die. He will actually DIE if he pitches in this heat. -KenDixonFanClub

by Stacey on Jul 25, 2010 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

yOU PEOPLE ARE SO EVIL.

"[The] dictionary is the only place that success comes before work." - Vince Lombardi

by BaltimoreSportsFan on Jul 25, 2010 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Crap, when'd I put caps lock on?

"[The] dictionary is the only place that success comes before work." - Vince Lombardi

by BaltimoreSportsFan on Jul 25, 2010 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

We did it... with our evil

To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa

by James F on Jul 25, 2010 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Let's do it together

It’ll be an impactful team building exercise. You can hit him and I’ll tell him that we’re sorry but if he wants to blame someone, it should be Andy MacPhail. If he could correctly manage a roster, it wouldn’t be necessary.

Oh and now we’re warming up Uehara. He’ll die. He will actually DIE if he pitches in this heat. -KenDixonFanClub

by Stacey on Jul 25, 2010 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

so what’s the problem? where’s the incompetence again?

by thewaywardO on Jul 25, 2010 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

agreed.

i think this is being blown way out of proportion. craig tatum is 27 years old and a professional. i think he can handle being sent down to the minors.

"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott

by zknower on Jul 25, 2010 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

The move was fine

but the team probably could have given him more of a heads up. Although why he didn’t see this coming is a bit perplexing.

"Overdrive the sound and make it sound pretty rude." - Jimmy Page

by duck on Jul 25, 2010 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just a note for everybody

“Impactful” is NOT A WORD.

To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa

by James F on Jul 25, 2010 12:26 PM EDT reply actions  

That's an impactful note.

"[The] dictionary is the only place that success comes before work." - Vince Lombardi

by BaltimoreSportsFan on Jul 25, 2010 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

I cover the important topics

To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa

by James F on Jul 25, 2010 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

irregardless...

no follow up, i just detest that one, too.

At all hazards, a man must keep up appearances. Dignity, I say. Dignity above all, Governor. Hear, hear!

-Det. William "Bunk" Moreland

by j.q. higgins on Jul 25, 2010 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Also would of, could of, should of

To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa

by James F on Jul 25, 2010 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

all intensive purposes?

At all hazards, a man must keep up appearances. Dignity, I say. Dignity above all, Governor. Hear, hear!

-Det. William "Bunk" Moreland

by j.q. higgins on Jul 25, 2010 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm wearing my Twins hat today.

Yes, I know I’m a traitor.

"[The] dictionary is the only place that success comes before work." - Vince Lombardi

by BaltimoreSportsFan on Jul 25, 2010 12:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Seriously?

I like the Twins, but not when we are playing them. That’s just all kinds of fucked up.

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Jul 25, 2010 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey I wore my O's cap yesterday, they lost so if the trend holds, the O's will win today!

"[The] dictionary is the only place that success comes before work." - Vince Lombardi

by BaltimoreSportsFan on Jul 25, 2010 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

If the trend holds

we will never win another game, ever.

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Jul 25, 2010 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

If I had tried to wear the opposing team's cap to the game when I was a kid

My father would have refused to take me.

Oh and now we’re warming up Uehara. He’ll die. He will actually DIE if he pitches in this heat. -KenDixonFanClub

by Stacey on Jul 25, 2010 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

But I didn't go to the game.

"[The] dictionary is the only place that success comes before work." - Vince Lombardi

by BaltimoreSportsFan on Jul 25, 2010 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

On a side note, Joseph Mahoney is tearing it up in Bowie

Hit another two homers last night, and is hitting over 400 with 6 homers in 14 or 15 games

by Newbird on Jul 25, 2010 12:56 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

He got the James F bump

To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa

by James F on Jul 25, 2010 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's kinda like giving yourself a +1, is it not?

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Jul 25, 2010 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

except that it sounds a little dirty

Oh and now we’re warming up Uehara. He’ll die. He will actually DIE if he pitches in this heat. -KenDixonFanClub

by Stacey on Jul 25, 2010 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh, and says the guy who "likes" his own comments on Facebook.

Oh and now we’re warming up Uehara. He’ll die. He will actually DIE if he pitches in this heat. -KenDixonFanClub

by Stacey on Jul 25, 2010 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I didn't say there's anything wrong with it

and I find liking your own comments to be hilarious. If I didn’t like it, I wouldn’t have said it. I’m just being forthcoming.

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Jul 25, 2010 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

Oh and now we’re warming up Uehara. He’ll die. He will actually DIE if he pitches in this heat. -KenDixonFanClub

by Stacey on Jul 25, 2010 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Jul 25, 2010 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

or...

sounds like a lost classic from the disco era.

At all hazards, a man must keep up appearances. Dignity, I say. Dignity above all, Governor. Hear, hear!

-Det. William "Bunk" Moreland

by j.q. higgins on Jul 25, 2010 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not a Colbert fan, I'm guessing?

To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa

by James F on Jul 25, 2010 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just got the pictures from last night on photobucket.

"[The] dictionary is the only place that success comes before work." - Vince Lombardi

by BaltimoreSportsFan on Jul 25, 2010 12:57 PM EDT reply actions  

So, Japanese art films

“Throne of Blood”. It’s Macbeth done in Samurai Japan. A must see.

"Overdrive the sound and make it sound pretty rude." - Jimmy Page

by duck on Jul 25, 2010 1:57 PM EDT reply actions  

"Ran", Kurosawa's King Lear, is also fantastic.

In other Japanese art films news, I’m making my way through the Hiroshi Teshigahara Criterion set. “Woman in the Dunes” is a real masterpiece. “The Face of Another” is on deck. Looks great.

by Redford on Jul 25, 2010 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ran was easily the most depressing film I have ever watched.

I’ve seen most of Kurosawa’s better-known films, and I love nearly all of them, except for Ran. I don’t think it’s badly made or anything, but I don’t think I’ll ever bring myself to watch it again.

I did enjoy Throne of Blood. Seven Samurai is my favorite of Kurosawa’s films, with Ikiru a close second.

"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver

by Vuff on Jul 25, 2010 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

I recently saw

Kurosawa’s Seven Samuri. First time I watched a movie with subtitles and was surprised that I like it and how good it was. I have Ran on my dvd player ready to watch next.

by smith1468 on Jul 25, 2010 2:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Dan Haren to the Angles. Yanks get spurned yet again! hahahahaha

"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." ~ The Dude

by PBR me ASAP! on Jul 25, 2010 6:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Which angle? 90 degrees, 45 degrees or 180 degrees?

:P

"[The] dictionary is the only place that success comes before work." - Vince Lombardi

by BaltimoreSportsFan on Jul 25, 2010 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

stupid typing fail

"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." ~ The Dude

by PBR me ASAP! on Jul 25, 2010 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

It sucks that Tater got send down after finding out this morning

But I’m not sure if most organizations wouldn’t have gave much pause to treat a rookie catcher with a .653 OPS (not that’s horrible for a back up catcher) the same way.

Don't mess with the bull, young man. You'll get the horns.

by birdman on Jul 25, 2010 7:22 PM EDT reply actions  

I love how bad the Deadskins rating is and how good the Ravens is.

"[The] dictionary is the only place that success comes before work." - Vince Lombardi

by BaltimoreSportsFan on Jul 25, 2010 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Holy crap, all the Verizon Center vendors have made a violation.

"[The] dictionary is the only place that success comes before work." - Vince Lombardi

by BaltimoreSportsFan on Jul 25, 2010 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mice crap, actually.

"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." ~ The Dude

by PBR me ASAP! on Jul 25, 2010 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Look at the Verizon Center's rating. Uh oh!

"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." ~ The Dude

by PBR me ASAP! on Jul 25, 2010 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just just clipped that a few hours ago,.

You’ll see it in tomorrow’s BD.

"Overdrive the sound and make it sound pretty rude." - Jimmy Page

by duck on Jul 25, 2010 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

wow

One thing of which to be proud to be a canuck I guess, being clean. Edmonton’s a dirty city anyway. :P I’m staying away from Florida, and going to Illinois!

by NSOsFan on Jul 25, 2010 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

93 percent at AA arena?

holy shit.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jul 25, 2010 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

100 percent at the trop

gotta love that dump

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jul 25, 2010 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

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