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It's time for Kranitz and Crowley to go!

I mean... hitters that hit in the minors get sent to the big leagues and under Crowley they seem to forget how. Montanez went from being a "terror" at the end of last year to not hitting his weight this year. The difference? He had a whole Winter and Spring under Crowley's tutelage. What about Reimold? He went from being a pre season contender for rookie of the year all the way back to Norfolk. Those two are the biggest examples. Come from the minors and tear up the league but after a winter and spring under Crowley and they aren't worth a damn.

Kranitz is just another in the long list of Oriole pitching coaches who have come in with these great credentials who have done nothing more than to screw up young pitchers (among others). At the end of last year everyone was salivating about the prospects for this season with Bergesson,Tillman, Matuz and Hernandez just waiting to become the terrors of the league. They all came up and impressed... fresh from the minors ( and their minor leagues coaches) they were successful. Now, after a Winter and Spring under Kranitz' coaching, they can't pitch their way out of a paper bag. Then there's Millwood. A successful career until he comes under Kranitz and now he can't get out of the first inning.

A few years ago the O's got a big name pitching coach from Atlanta (I can't remember his name) who came on the scene and changed the way Bruce Chen pitched. Chen went from an eleven game winner to being dropped from the roster. In case the O's didn't notice, he flirted with a no hitter just a few weeks ago.

The problem, a I see it, is that these big name pitching coaches come in here after reading their press notices and actually believe the tripe the flacks have written about them and how they "made" so and so a great pitcher. I watch Kranitz go out to the mound, night after night, to "advise" the pitcher and then see the pitcher do the exact same thing he was doing before the visit. It's obvious that the pitchers have no respect for what Kranitz has to say. 

I challenge anyone to point out any pitcher that Kranitz has made better than before he arrived. It's time for him to go!

Crowley's been here too long. We need some new blood and new ideas. No team with as many experienced players than the O's have can possibly be this bad unless it's a problem with the coaching. Bye bye Crow!

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You may have a point, but

you lose my support immediately upon using Lou Montanez as an example of someone who should be performing but isnt.

by kba26 on Jul 28, 2010 5:22 PM EDT reply actions  

+1

Oh and now we’re warming up Uehara. He’ll die. He will actually DIE if he pitches in this heat. -KenDixonFanClub

by Stacey on Jul 28, 2010 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

And Bruce Chen

Tiger got to hunt, bird got to fly; Man got to sit and wonder, 'Why, why, why?' Tiger got to sleep, bird got to land; Man got to tell himself he understand.

by Andrew_G on Jul 28, 2010 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

+ 80,671.5

Repeat after me:

Lou Montanez was NEVER ANY FUCKING GOOD. Man that guy fuxking irritates me. Or rather, his supporters do.

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Jul 28, 2010 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah but.. Lou can..

what was it that he could do that we were supposed to deal with?

What up?

by snakethejake on Jul 28, 2010 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Complain about how he won the triple crown

while being older than everyone else in the league?

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Jul 28, 2010 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol, hey

you’re never too old to hit! (I’m not really a fan of his, i’m just playing along with the fun)

What up?

by snakethejake on Jul 28, 2010 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Its amazing how completely the Lou jokes died down around here

I suppose we have to many other things to deal with right now.

by kba26 on Jul 28, 2010 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

that and i got strong

i’m not dealing with it anymore.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jul 28, 2010 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah

it’s almost like Lou was somewhat important at some point, and now he’s obsolete.. And with him, went the jokes.. Kind of sad, but I’ll always hold it near and dear to my heart.

What up?

by snakethejake on Jul 28, 2010 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

You lost my support

With your failure to check you spelling of players’ names. You really couldn’t bother yourself to look up how to spell Beregesen or Matusz? It’s as bad as the geniuses that posted comments on the Orioles Facebook page (regarding a story that Showalter’s hiring wasn’t imminent a couple weeks ago) that “Manuel deserves a chance to manage this team” to which was replied “Manuel is a 3rd base coach, not a manager.” Who the f*%# is Manuel?! If you don’t know the manager’s name and you can’t bother to spell players name right, DON’T POST! Jackwagons!

by Chief O'Flyers on Jul 29, 2010 5:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

irony alert:

his name is Bergesen. 3E1N, as some here call him just for the reason of remembering his spelling.

by Luke E on Jul 29, 2010 7:25 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Ha!

The beauty of it all. I do believe that’s the first time i’ve seen the “Beregesen” spelling though.

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Jul 29, 2010 8:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

Whoops

Typed too fast trying to finish it on my lunch break. I know it’s 3E1N. My fail.

by Chief O'Flyers on Jul 30, 2010 5:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

To your credit

your misspelling was clearly a typo. Nobody would deliberately spell it “Beregesen”.

by uneasy rider on Aug 5, 2010 7:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

"He went from being a pre season contender for rookie of the year all the way back to Norfolk."

Uhm, I think he was a contender LAST year, not this year.

"Real Orioles don't pout. Real Orioles don't gloat. Real Orioles just win."

by NewYorkOriole on Jul 28, 2010 6:24 PM EDT reply actions  

Do us all a favor, and if you're going to post something,

take 10 extra minutes to do a spell-check and a little research.

“A few years ago the O’s got a big name pitching coach from Atlanta (I can’t remember his name) who came on the scene and changed the way Bruce Chen pitched. Chen went from an eleven game winner to being dropped from the roster. In case the O’s didn’t notice, he flirted with a no hitter just a few weeks ago.”

His name was Leo Mazzone. That took me literally 30 seconds to google the answer to. Even forgetting that for a second, what the hell does Bruce Chen have to do with Kranitz? They weren’t even here at the same time, Chen left before Kranitz was hired, your argument makes no sense. Also, Bruce Chen sucks, just because he “flirted with a no-hitter,” doesn’t mean he stopped sucking, it means he had one good game. There are definitely arguments that can be made to blame Kranitz and Crowley, this is not one of them.

by Strat12 on Jul 29, 2010 8:56 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

not to mention...

there are maybe a few name brand pitching coaches of the modern era. leo mazzone is probably a # 1, dave duncan and ray miller also have to be up there.

At all hazards, a man must keep up appearances. Dignity, I say. Dignity above all, Governor. Hear, hear!

-Det. William "Bunk" Moreland

by j.q. higgins on Jul 30, 2010 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

not that i just watched the holy grail or anything, but...

he’s gotten better.

At all hazards, a man must keep up appearances. Dignity, I say. Dignity above all, Governor. Hear, hear!

-Det. William "Bunk" Moreland

by j.q. higgins on Jul 30, 2010 9:18 PM EDT reply actions  

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