Thursday Bird Droppings
by duck on Jul 29, 2010 9:46 AM EDT
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PrintRecaps of yesterday's loss can be found at orioles.com, The Sun, MASNsports (with post-game Juan), and The Globe and Mail.
Struggling Pie gets mental break | orioles.com: News
Juan Samuel made the decision to give Felix Pie a day off Wednesday. "They know what we've been through and they are trying so hard. We think Felix needs a break here, mentally. I think he's swinging a little bit too hard -- probably pressing a little bit." At least someone's trying hard.
Orioles Insider: Orioles don't tip their caps this time
"We just beat ourselves," Luke Scott said. ""If he was painting [the corners], I’d understand. We just didn’t make the adjustment. We had pitches to hit. I can understand if we are getting carved up as far as not [getting] much out over the plate. We had some pitches to hit, we just missed them."
Orioles Insider: Bergy to make next start; nothing close on trades; Moore clears
Talk about the headline giving away the lead - Brad Bergesen will make his next start, the Orioles aren't close to a trade, and Scott Moore did clear waivers and accept an assignment to Norfolk.
Orioles Insider: Kranitz says pitchers need to step up
"It’s frustrating because these guys should be taking more steps forward and they’re not, they haven’t been," he said. "I’ve seen some little signs, but they have to go all the way through. They have to keep going forward. That’s a tough balancing act because you still have to stay positive, but the reality is you have to get the job done. They can’t control the wins and losses, but you can control where you throw the baseball and be competitive on a nightly basis. That shouldn’t be in doubt."
Orioles Insider: Jays coach thinks Showalter good fit for O's
Toronto coach Brian Butterfield: "He has so many redeeming qualities that it’s a little bit of a surprise to me why he hasn’t been in the league for a while. But you know what, speaking to him a couple of times recently, he says he feels good physically. The managing and the coaching sometimes can take a toll on you, but I think he’s in a way where he’s itching to get back. I think if it were to happen in Baltimore, I think he would be a tremendous fit."
Orioles Should Do Right by Jim Gentile - MLB FanHouse
Seems the O's owe Jim Gentile another $5,000 as he now has tied for the lead in the 1961 AL RBI race. An RBI was taken away from Mickey Mantle Roger Maris after a scoring error was confirmed yesterday, leaving him tied with Gentile. "We argued over the contract," Gentile said. "I remember [Lee} MacPhail, at the time I signed the contract, said that if I had led the league in RBIs, it would have been worth $5,000 more." Andy, your dad owes the man $5,000. Pay up.
Orioles unfold table and place players on it | The Daily Times
"In major league baseball's flea market, the Orioles seem to be that table of spare parts that some team, if they look hard enough, might be able get something useful at a bargain. "
Wishful Writing – 2010 Orioles Game Recap
What a recap of an O's game might have looked like this year.
BaseballAmerica.com: Prospects: Chat: Jim Callis Chat
Jim Callis basically endorses moving anyone on the Orioles who's 31 or older. And he's not picky about who.
AROUND THE LEAGUE
Fan in LeBron James Heat jersey draws ire in Cleveland
Someone didn't get hugged enough as a child and still desperately needs attention - a fan at the Indians game wore a Miami Heat LeBron James jersey. With it being Cleveland, you should probably be able to guess what happened next.
MLB Opening Day 2011 to fall on Friday, April 1; season to end on a Wednesday - USATODAY.com
Major League Baseball, trying to avoid having long underwear as part of its players' postseason apparel, is planning to start the 2011 season in earnest on Friday, April 1 - three days earlier than the traditional Monday opener.
IN THE MINORS
Pettus resigns as O’s GM " Bluefield Daily Telegraph
"It’s a pretty time-consuming and demanding job here," he said. "I thought this was something that could be a pretty good fit for me, but having gone through half the season to three quarters of the season I just feel like I’m spending too much time away from home. I’ve got two younger boys, 11 and 9 years old and I just feel like it’s important to be there for these years, their developmental years." Seems to me someone thought this would be a 9-to-5 job and found out otherwise.
Promotion Watch: Zach Britton | FanGraphs Fantasy Baseball
FanGraphs profiles Britton in anticipation that he may be called up this year. -Stacey
Bell, Reimold homer in 8-6 win | Norfolk Tides News
Josh Bell and Nolan Reimold each homered as the Tides topped the Scranton/Wilkes-Barre Yankees 8-6 Wednesday night.
Bowie-Akron Rubber Match Washed Out | Bowie Baysox News
The final matchup of a three-game series between the Bowie Baysox and Akron Aeros was suspended Wednesday night as heavy rains passed through Northeast Ohio. The game will be completed as part of a doubleheader when the Aeros travel to Bowie August 23 through 25.
Rowell Rallies Keys to Dramatic Finish| Frederick Keys News
Frederick led by three runs entering the ninth but saw that lead disappear. After allowing two runs in the top of the 10th, 2B Miguel Abreu capped off the three-run inning with a walk-off single that brought home 3B Billy Rowell.
May whiffs 14, Claws crush Birds 9-0 | Lakewood BlueClaws News
Trevor May made history Tuesday night, as the BlueClaws crushed Delmarva 9-0 to take four of five on the road trip and improve to a season-best 24 games over .500. May (3-1) struck out 14 through seven innings, tying the BlueClaws single game record and establishing a new career high. He let up just four hits and didn't walk a Delmarva (15-17) batter.
Cyclones Stop IronBirds Winning Streak | Aberdeen IronBirds News
The Aberdeen IronBirds three game winning streak was snapped Wednesday night as the Brooklyn Cyclones scored six runs with two outs and won 7-2.
Bluefield won 5-4
The Orioles only managed five hits, but plated five runs in the defeat of Pulaski.
The GCL Orioles won 4-2
Three Orioles had multi-hit games and scored all four runs in the second inning to cruise to the win.
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It was Maris they took an RBI from in '61.
He had 142, they knocked it down to 141, which tied him with Gentile. Mantle had 128. I only know that because they talked about it on Masn last night.
The Wishful Writing piece would have been plausible...
if they had left out Atkins. No way in hell was that ever going to happen.
"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." ~ The Dude
from MLBTR
“The Cardinals contacted the Orioles about Tejada, reports Derrick Goold of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch, but there was “no traction” for a trade."
What? That sounds like the Cards asked for Miggi and offered something like a PTBNL and the Orioles said “Yeah, we need him right now! Who will bat second without Tejada?”
Tiger got to hunt, bird got to fly; Man got to sit and wonder, 'Why, why, why?' Tiger got to sleep, bird got to land; Man got to tell himself he understand.
what the hell?
trade his ass already!
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jul 29, 2010 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions
Eh
I would wait to deal Miggi until the deadline at least in hopes that I can get more than salary relief.
To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa
anyone who is willing
to give up something of actual value for Miguel Tejada shouldn’t be working in professional baseball. There are better options than him available, and I don’t see what anybody could possibly see in him anyway. Plus we’d get that chance to see Scott Moore some more (actually, it’d probably be Josh Bell, but at least he’d be playing this time)
Tiger got to hunt, bird got to fly; Man got to sit and wonder, 'Why, why, why?' Tiger got to sleep, bird got to land; Man got to tell himself he understand.
That's true
But there are plenty of people who make deals that don’t belong in professional baseball. The Dodgers just gave up two prospects for Scott freaking Posednick.
To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa
well, we already knew that Coletti
was, is, and will continue to be really bad at the trade deadline. But the point is taken. I’d still be willing to salary dump Tejada. Anything to get me to stop watching him.
One of my favorite, simple quotes was last year when Mike Rizzo took over the Nats and released (not waived, but cut entirely) Danny Cabs as one of his first orders of business, and as an explanation he said “I was tired of watching him”. That’s exactly how I feel about like two-thirds of this team.
Tiger got to hunt, bird got to fly; Man got to sit and wonder, 'Why, why, why?' Tiger got to sleep, bird got to land; Man got to tell himself he understand.
I'd be willing to release Miggi
But that being said, I’ll wait until the deadline to move him for nothing in the hopes I can move him for something.
I mean, if Cleveland can get a useful arm for Jhonny Peralta, I’d see if I can’t do as well for Miggi.
To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa
Good point
we did get a good arm for the ghost of Aubrey Huff last year, after all.
Tiger got to hunt, bird got to fly; Man got to sit and wonder, 'Why, why, why?' Tiger got to sleep, bird got to land; Man got to tell himself he understand.
Who'd we get for him anyways?
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jul 29, 2010 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions
Brett Jacobson
decent bullpen arm, gets groundballs, has control and can strike some guys out. nothing amazing though.
he was best friends with Matusz, too!
I’m a fan. He’s a bullpen arm, but considering Huff’s performance after the trade, we won that trade twice over.
Tiger got to hunt, bird got to fly; Man got to sit and wonder, 'Why, why, why?' Tiger got to sleep, bird got to land; Man got to tell himself he understand.
Well I'm sure the Giants are thinking they got robbed out of Brett freaking Jacobson
Considering Huff is actually hitting the ball……
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jul 29, 2010 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions
we traded him to the Tigers
the Giants signed him as a FA
Tiger got to hunt, bird got to fly; Man got to sit and wonder, 'Why, why, why?' Tiger got to sleep, bird got to land; Man got to tell himself he understand.
this, and everyone thought it was a joke when the Giants signed him
just goes to show you that baseball is a funny game
Heh......I'm just gonna shut up now.....
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jul 29, 2010 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions
Bullet points:
- Pie was definitely hacking for the last few games; I hope the day off helped.
- I like how Kranitz rambles about the pitchers not getting it done, but doesn’t say a thing about what he’s doing to help them.
- They probably owe Gentile more like $35k now, if we take inflation into account.
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
I was just going to post something about the inflation adjusted $5k.
Rub some $100 bills on it, you sell-out. -duck
You're dead on the money
What cost $5000 in 1961 would cost $35462.66 in 2009.
http://www.westegg.com/inflation/
"Overdrive the sound and make it sound pretty rude." - Jimmy Page
Hahaha.
I cheated; I used that, but was too lazy to reference it.
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
A good writer ALWAYS references his sources. :)
"Overdrive the sound and make it sound pretty rude." - Jimmy Page
We have an honor code here!
Cheaters are expelled!
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jul 29, 2010 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions
I was trying to come up with a witty comeback to you guys,
but I got nothin’.
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
except, they should really give him the money with simple interest.
so that would be a LOT more.
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
Is Rowell actually improving this year at Frederick?
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
It's a mirage, he's K-ing around 33% of the time and more than 3:1 K's to BB's.
He has a .398 BABIP, which is crazy unsustainable, he’s not hitting for a ton of power, with an ISO ~.140. He’s hitting a ton of groundballs, and not very many flyballs, which makes it very difficult to hit for power, and he’s in his 3rd season at Frederick, so even if he was destroying the league, I would be dubious.
a high BABiP in the minors
isn’t nearly as luck-based as it is in the majors. It probably points a lot more to the age/experience discrepancy as anything else. Rowell’s not going to make it.
Tiger got to hunt, bird got to fly; Man got to sit and wonder, 'Why, why, why?' Tiger got to sleep, bird got to land; Man got to tell himself he understand.
A .398 BABIP when your hitting only 16% line drives, is luck-based.
Groundballs help, but not that much, minorleaguesplits has him at a .329 adjusted BABIP. By the way, all my other stats were from minorleaguesplits, i forgot to source.
high-A defense are balls, don't forget that
Tiger got to hunt, bird got to fly; Man got to sit and wonder, 'Why, why, why?' Tiger got to sleep, bird got to land; Man got to tell himself he understand.
yes, but if the defense was that bad,
everyone in A+ would be able to put up high BABIP numbers. High BABIP comes chiefly from hitting a ton of line drives, which Rowell is not doing.
maybe
why are we arguing about this? we agree! Rowell sucks! The End.
Tiger got to hunt, bird got to fly; Man got to sit and wonder, 'Why, why, why?' Tiger got to sleep, bird got to land; Man got to tell himself he understand.
Trade him!
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jul 29, 2010 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions
to the Yankees
so he can be a part of their next big trade for the top names in baseball!
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jul 29, 2010 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions
hahahaha I think I beat you to the punch there.....
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jul 29, 2010 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions
Uhm Kranny....
Isn’t that your job?
"Real Orioles don't pout. Real Orioles don't gloat. Real Orioles just win."
Heyman
The O’s will not deal Tejada or Wiggy to the Yankees.
If only we understood that the Yankees would get worse by adding either, we’d see it is a perfect match.
To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa
Is someone in the O's FO
just remembering hearing “you don’t trade with teams in your division” without understanding what that really means?
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
BLARGH
WTF?
Even if I understood the logic of not wanting your division rivals to improve with your trade pieces. I don’t understand that, but EVEN if I did, I don’t understand how Wiggy or Miggi would make them that much better! AND even if it DID make them better, it’s only for this year, in which the Orioles are over TWENTY games out of FOURTH PLACE.
Oh and now we’re warming up Uehara. He’ll die. He will actually DIE if he pitches in this heat. -KenDixonFanClub
It's so frustrating that I can't even type a complete sentence to start a paragraph, it seems.
Oh and now we’re warming up Uehara. He’ll die. He will actually DIE if he pitches in this heat. -KenDixonFanClub
it's either
a failure to understand simple economics, or a failure to accurately estimate the value of Wiggy and Miggi. You decide which is worse for a general manager.
Tiger got to hunt, bird got to fly; Man got to sit and wonder, 'Why, why, why?' Tiger got to sleep, bird got to land; Man got to tell himself he understand.
Well, they definitely don't understand simple economics
If you think you can explain comparative advantage to these knuckleheads, feel free.
To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa
it is of course possible
that they have leads on both of these guys that would get them better returns than they could possibly get from St. Louis or New York…but I don’t understand how cutting down competition is a good way to get a good return.
Tiger got to hunt, bird got to fly; Man got to sit and wonder, 'Why, why, why?' Tiger got to sleep, bird got to land; Man got to tell himself he understand.
Well, I assume with St. Louis it is price...
…and with New York it is our desire to be dickish.
One thing that keeps coming back to me is that MacPhail never talks about the challenge of taking on the Yankees and Red Sox – indeed, he was talking about realignment and other bullshit in his OH interview. And of course, he’s the supposed next commissioner and a key figure in the 1980s collusion scandal. So this may have nothing to do with the Orioles and everything to do with something else.
To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa
what?
MacPhail is constantly blaming our struggles on how hard it is to take on the Yankees and Red Sox!
Tiger got to hunt, bird got to fly; Man got to sit and wonder, 'Why, why, why?' Tiger got to sleep, bird got to land; Man got to tell himself he understand.
No, I mean that he never talks about relishing the challenge...
….he only talks about how hard it is, and how the rules should change, and how there is not much he can do. Friedman and Anthopolous, they talk about the challenge, and outthinking them.
To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa
I think the "relishing the challenge" thing gets old after a while
It really isn’t a “challenge” anymore.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jul 29, 2010 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions
Neither do I
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jul 29, 2010 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions
it's such a bullshit thing anyway
the Yankees and the Red Sox have absolutely nothing to do with how bad the Orioles are. The Orioles are bad and have been bad because they have been run incredibly poorly. Free agents are unwilling to come here because of the Yankees, they are unwilling to come here because the money isn’t here and the wins aren’t here. That’s it. The wins aren’t here because the roster has been constructed in order to maximize losses.
If I had one wish, and couldn’t use it to fix the roster, I’d just wish that MacPhail would come out and start treating us like adults. Stop blaming your mistakes on New York. Stop telling us to keep the faith.
Tiger got to hunt, bird got to fly; Man got to sit and wonder, 'Why, why, why?' Tiger got to sleep, bird got to land; Man got to tell himself he understand.
That would be your one wish?
A) Always, always, always, wish for more wishes.
B) You can’t be afraid to dream a little bigger.
To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa
well
i mean, I’d probably wish for a complete revamping of the warehouse that leaves me in charge, but let’s say I get to ask MacPhail one thing that he’d be open to, as long as I’m not running up to him demanding to sign Prince Fielder.
Tiger got to hunt, bird got to fly; Man got to sit and wonder, 'Why, why, why?' Tiger got to sleep, bird got to land; Man got to tell himself he understand.
Why not just wish that we hire Friedman?
I’m not saying Andy is a bad GM, exactly (or at least I’m not saying it here) but the more I learn about him, I just don’t like him.
To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa
lets just forget it
I just hate being treated like a stupid childish fanbase who can cry foul on the uneven playing field as the root of all our problems. I really hate it. I can’t describe how much I hate it.
Tiger got to hunt, bird got to fly; Man got to sit and wonder, 'Why, why, why?' Tiger got to sleep, bird got to land; Man got to tell himself he understand.
My wish is that
the Rays have to move out of Florida because they have no support down there, and Peter Angelos and Andy MacPhail and the Orioles move to whatever location they want, Las Vegas or whatever, and Sternberg and Friedman and the Rays come to Baltimore and call themselves the Orioles.
Oh and now we’re warming up Uehara. He’ll die. He will actually DIE if he pitches in this heat. -KenDixonFanClub
No
I don’t want that. It feels like cheating. I want to beat the Rays. I want to outsmart them. I want to outplay them. I want to see Evan Longoria cry when the O’s eliminate them from the playoffs. I want to see tears dripping from Matt Garza’s dumbass beard. No.
To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa
Eh
In my wish Longoria and Garza are Orioles, not Rays, so I’m fine with it.
But if I’m wishing for impossible things, I could also get on board with wishing that Angelos and MacPhail wake up tomorrow morning and suddenly are as savvy as the Rays ownership and management.
Oh and now we’re warming up Uehara. He’ll die. He will actually DIE if he pitches in this heat. -KenDixonFanClub
Well, at least our rule against facial hair...
…would force Garza to shave. Seriously, he looks like a poodle with that thing.
In my wish, Bell is a switch-hitting Longoria.
To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa
yes, this about Bell
all though even in my dreams Longoria plays better defense
Bell sucks
Longo please……
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jul 29, 2010 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions
Not going to happen
I’ve a better chance of ending up married to Michelle Obama.
To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa
hahaha
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jul 29, 2010 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions
I think it suits him
Dude is kinda crazy, and so is his facial hair.
Oh and now we’re warming up Uehara. He’ll die. He will actually DIE if he pitches in this heat. -KenDixonFanClub
Your reactions to facial hair are... interesting.
To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa
Don't get me wrong
I don’t think his facial hair is attractive. I certainly wouldn’t make out with him. It’s totally ridiculous. But so is he, so it works.
Oh and now we’re warming up Uehara. He’ll die. He will actually DIE if he pitches in this heat. -KenDixonFanClub
he's hilarious tho
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jul 29, 2010 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions
I would just wish that Wieters and Tillman and Matusz and
Arrieta and Britton and Reimold and Bell and…all reach their potential.
Right!
It is easy to lose sight of the fact that this team still posesses several pieces that have a tremendous amount of upside. Of course, filling in the gaps with major league talent is the hard part.
by TerroristFistJab on Jul 29, 2010 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions
eh...potential, schmential
who comes up with this “potential” thing anyways? The guy hits a homer and immediately gets dubbed a “power hitting potential”??
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jul 29, 2010 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions
No, this feels like the LeBron James way
I don’t want to join them, I want to beat them.
I wanna feel like Michael Jordan
Matt Wieters Was Drafted 5th Overall Because The First 4 Teams Thought That Harnessing The Power Of Ten-thousand Suns Was Playing God.
by 17oriolesfan on Jul 29, 2010 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions
This is beside your point, but I'll pass on the Prince.
He’s gonna want Ryan Howard money, because he is inarguably better and younger than Ryan Howard, and his agent is Scott Boras. He maybe deserves Ryan Howard money now, but he’s gonna age badly.
He's not going to get Ryan Howard money
Fucking Pujols will be lucky to get it.
Scott Boras can’t make teams pay what he wants. See Damon, Johnny.
To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa
I didn't say he's gonna get it,
but he’s gonna end up close to it, and he’s not gonna be worth it.
He's not
My desire for Prince is based entirely on my anticipation of his market. I’ll take him for 5/125, and I think we’d get him for that.
To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa
He will probably be worth ~$25 a year for
the next 2-3 years, and decline stiffly. I would rather not pay market value for a 1B for 2-3 years and then well above market value for 2 more years. If we’re paying that kind of money, I want it at a premium position for a player who will age well.
Well, as I've said, I think he will age well.
Who is this player at a premium position that you think you can pay that kind of money to? They don’t exist. You work with the market that exists.
To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa
yeah, like his father aged well?
He’s a much better player than Cecil, but they have the same body types, and Prince isn’t exactly known for keeping himself in great shape is he?
He is known for keeping himself in great shape
He’s a vegan health nut. He’s just a big dude.
To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa
Is he actually a health nut?
I know he is vegan, but just because you’re vegan doesn’t mean you’re a healthy eater.
Rub some $100 bills on it, you sell-out. -duck
If I was a vegan, I'd weigh four hundred pounds
All that pasta and candy?
Can vegans eat pasta?
Oh and now we’re warming up Uehara. He’ll die. He will actually DIE if he pitches in this heat. -KenDixonFanClub
Cecil played well through age 32
which would mean (if you think he’s exactly the same as his dad) that he’d be very productive for 4 of those 5 years.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
Cecil did not play well through age 32
He continued to hit HR’s through age 32, but his last season as an above average major leaguer was when he was 29. Although, again Prince is a better hitter than Cecil, so Prince won’t decline quite as fast.
http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=1004026&position=1B/DH
He put up 39 hr's
and his ops+ was 108. But again, Prince is a better player than his father was, so if we can expect a better season than that at age 32, i’d be on board.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
What? Are you serious?
Your using a first baseman that can’t play a lick of defense and had a 108 OPS+ to defend your arguement? That’s insane.
At 32, he was a 1.8 WAR player, an above average major leaguer is considered ~3.0 WAR. There is no argument to say that Cecil was still good at 32 except that he was still hitting homeruns.
Cecil wasn't near the player that Prince is
and Prince has always been a btter fielder (no pun intended) than his dad as well. Cecil when from a 117 ops+ at age 28 to a 108 at age 32. If Prince is at 117 by age 28, I probably wouldn’t be too psyched to make that deal. My point is I doubt he’ll be that bad, and his dad didn’t really decline all that much over that 4 year span.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
On top of that...
his raw numbers were better basically across the board at 32 then they were at 28. Sure, that’s not adjusted, but he wasn’t that different of a player.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
yeah and Ryan Howard has lead the league
in RBI’s a few times. That doesn’t mean he’s worth his contract. Raw stats lie.
I wasn't talking about RBI
Cecil at 28: .244 .325 .458 .783 (35 HRs)
Cecil at 32: .252 .350 .484 .834 (39 HRs)
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
In '96 he spent have the season at DH,
and the other half as a bad defensive 1B. In ‘92 he spent rougly 3/4 of the season as an average defensive 1B, and 1/4 as a DH. Which is why he was worth 3.1 WAR in ’92 and 1.8 WAR in 96. Also, if you forgot, everyone was hitting like crazy in 1996, so context neutral, he didn’t have as good of a season.
can you prove that Prince is a better fielder?
Because every defensive metric has Prince as well-below average and Cecil as just about average through his age 29 season.
Did you look at Cecil’s WAR? It went from 6.8 to 4.3 to 3.1 to 1.6 in 4 years. That is a steep decline. A decline is generally averaged at .5 WAR difference per year.
also, Cecil was 6'3" 240
Prince is 5’11" 268
that 6'3'' 240
might have been when he first cracked the league lol Are you getting that from BR? They have h/w from rookie years. Look at Barry Bonds’ BR page for a laugh…
Rub some $100 bills on it, you sell-out. -duck
nah, fangraphs, but the point still
stands that he had a better body than Prince.
I might be missing something here...
but first you said he’s not going to get Howard money, then you said you think we’d get him for 5/125, which is what Howard got. Huh?
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
Except Howard already was signed through 2011...
…so we’re really talking about a six year deal with a $10 million buyout of a seventh.
And the other difference is that Howard is four years older. But you’re right; I was faulty in how I explained what I meant.
To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa
I'm curious what Pujols will command...
just looking at his HOF numbers of B-R, holy crap! For a guy who’s only been playing for 9 years, his numbers are through the roof.
How do you think he’s going to age? He’s 30 now, so he should have at least 4-6 more big time years left in him, right?
by TerroristFistJab on Jul 29, 2010 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions
I'd assume he'll age well
He’s got every kind of skill but speed, he’s an elite defender who was a good defender at third before they moved him. He’s got a history of elbow trouble, but it hasn’t ever really held him back.
To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa
he actually even has speed,
although its not great speed, but if i was guessing on players to age well Pujols would be near the top of the list
So where's the rub?
Looking backwards he’s been grossly underpaid (I mean, he’s already got HOF numbers, right?) and he looks to age well before considering he’s not even approaching “old”.
Is the only thing holding his FA value down the fact that the Yankees already spent big on Tex?
by TerroristFistJab on Jul 29, 2010 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions
Well, the market is the market
I’m sure he’ll get a huge deal.
To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa
the thing is holding him down, wrt Howard money
is that there aren’t many GM’s that are as stupid as Amaro
I suppose...
Pujols is coming on the market a year or two too late for a super-max deal like that. Outside of the Phils and Yankees, who’s got that kind of coin (or some combination of $$$ + fiscally irresponsible management)?
by TerroristFistJab on Jul 29, 2010 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions
Was his planter fasciitis
acute or long term? I thought it was a long term degenerative issue…
Rub some $100 bills on it, you sell-out. -duck
It doesn't even have to do with economics
It has to do with they’re effing morons. It’s common sense!
Oh and now we’re warming up Uehara. He’ll die. He will actually DIE if he pitches in this heat. -KenDixonFanClub
Frankly, I think this line of thinking is Angelos
At least I hope so.
If this reasoning stems from MacPhail, it’s another data point to add to the tally that is increasing my doubt that the O’s will ever turn around under him.
A MacPhail response would be something about not getting enough value, or the market hasn’t set itself yet, or the barn isn’t burning. Note to Andy MacPhail, the damn barn is a charred mess with a ton of stinking animal corpses.
Was it we're not going to deal them to the Yanks no matter what or we couldn't agree to a trade with them?
The first option would be insanely stupid, the second could possibly be defendable, depending on who they offered.
I'd trade Tejada to the Yankees anyday.......
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jul 29, 2010 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions
Interview with Adam Dunn
http://mlb-facts-and-rumors.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/22297882/23370704
CTR: There’s always talk that you don’t want to play in the American League, is that accurate?
AD: I don’t want to DH. I don’t want to DH. If I have to DH, I’ll probably go home.
CTR: Really?
AD: I’m 30, I’m not ready to DH yet, 35, maybe.
Oh and now we’re warming up Uehara. He’ll die. He will actually DIE if he pitches in this heat. -KenDixonFanClub
I got that from one of the Rays guys I follow on Twitter
His comment was, “You know who wouldn’t complain about DHing? Luke Scott.”
That’s not entirely accurate….
Oh and now we’re warming up Uehara. He’ll die. He will actually DIE if he pitches in this heat. -KenDixonFanClub
Not when he's gettin the big bucks......
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jul 29, 2010 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions
That dude really hates baseball
"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." ~ The Dude
by PBR me ASAP! on Jul 29, 2010 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions
Good for him
And if it’s more important to him to play the field in the NL for a team like the Nats than it is to play DH for a good team in the AL like the Rays, then ok.
Oh and now we’re warming up Uehara. He’ll die. He will actually DIE if he pitches in this heat. -KenDixonFanClub
it's the only thing
Tiger got to hunt, bird got to fly; Man got to sit and wonder, 'Why, why, why?' Tiger got to sleep, bird got to land; Man got to tell himself he understand.
especially when you hate baseball in the first place
Oh and now we’re warming up Uehara. He’ll die. He will actually DIE if he pitches in this heat. -KenDixonFanClub
What do you mean by that?
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jul 29, 2010 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions
I really don't get it
obviously he knows that he fucking sucks at defense – why wouldn’t he want to avoid doing something he sucks at???
Rub some $100 bills on it, you sell-out. -duck
I don't get it either...
I mean, Luke is a decent defender – I wasn’t so miffed when he bristled at being “just” a DH. But Adam Dunn is awful, like, disgustingly bad at defense. He has to know this, right? Also, for a guy that saw the market for his services dry up the the point that the Nats were the highest bidder, why in the hell would you completely eliminate half of your freaking market!?
by TerroristFistJab on Jul 29, 2010 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions
That Bratwurst / Corn Dog concocction led me to this last night
and this is just GLORIOUS
"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." ~ The Dude
That website is insane
It thrills me and makes me want to vomit all at the same time.
Oh and now we’re warming up Uehara. He’ll die. He will actually DIE if he pitches in this heat. -KenDixonFanClub
that's fucking gross
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jul 29, 2010 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions
Ew
(Except the smore. that might be delicious)
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
the maple bacon donut makes me feel ill
Oh and now we’re warming up Uehara. He’ll die. He will actually DIE if he pitches in this heat. -KenDixonFanClub
The anything bacon anything makes me ill
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
Oh right, you're one of those
Oh and now we’re warming up Uehara. He’ll die. He will actually DIE if he pitches in this heat. -KenDixonFanClub
I was the first one of those
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
You're such a trend setter
Oh and now we’re warming up Uehara. He’ll die. He will actually DIE if he pitches in this heat. -KenDixonFanClub
false!
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jul 29, 2010 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions
Not false
This looks like a job for the search function!
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
http://www.camdenchat.com/2009/10/30/1102426/blog-spotlight-numerology#23596633
You actually agree with me further down the thread.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
damn you and your research
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jul 29, 2010 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions
I like turtles! hahaha
"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." ~ The Dude
by PBR me ASAP! on Jul 29, 2010 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Strasburg on 15 day DL
http://therocket.mlblogs.com/archives/2010/07/strasburg_placed_on_15-day_dis.html
The Nationals have placed right-hander Stephen Strasburg on the 15-day disabled list because of shoulder stiffness and activated left-hander Scott Olsen, who is pitching against the Braves on Thursday afternoon.
Strasburg will not throw for the next three or four days, and his right shoulder will be reevaluated by the team after that.
However, Strasburg said his shoulder feels a lot better than it did on Tuesday, when he was scratched from his start against the Braves, but he would not say when he would make his next start. Strasburg indicated that he was hurting the previous two days.
Oh and now we’re warming up Uehara. He’ll die. He will actually DIE if he pitches in this heat. -KenDixonFanClub
Not a bad way to limit his innings
Tiger got to hunt, bird got to fly; Man got to sit and wonder, 'Why, why, why?' Tiger got to sleep, bird got to land; Man got to tell himself he understand.
Only a matter of time......
My sister made fun of me a few weeks ago for going to pretty much every home game he’s started (and going to cincinnati for a game too), saying I was obsessed. I was like…well its only a matter of time before he gets hurt anyways……
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jul 29, 2010 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions
That whooooosh you just heard...
was the sound of Nationals fans flying off the bandwagon. Hell, it’s Redskins training camp time anyway.
by TerroristFistJab on Jul 29, 2010 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions
Question for XBox360 owners?
Is it worth 300 some for it? I’ve kinda always wanted it since EA stopped making Madden for the PC, but I dunno if its worth the price.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
Do you have friends that own a 360?
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
That was going to be my question...
I have both a PS3 and a 360 but primarily use the PS3 as I don’t want to pay an additional amount to connect to my wifi or play for XBoxLive. If you go in – buy either the new slim model or the previous gen. with the Jasper chip so you don’t get the RROD.
by TerroristFistJab on Jul 29, 2010 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions
As did I
I quickly resold the 360 (I got it on a deal in the 1st place) when I realized almost all the games were the same (except Halo/Gears on 360 and God of War/MLB The Show on ps3) but the PS3 came with a blu ray player and free online play. If you have friends that play 360, get a 360. Otherwise PS3 is far and away the right way to go (except if you really like Halo and fancy avatars for your screen name).
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
yea i dont need the wifi and all that crap
i just wanna play games, trade albert fucking haynesworth off the redskins, and kill fake terrorists and stuff
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jul 29, 2010 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions
I didn't want the internet...
at first either – then I discovered the joys of getting roster updates for all the sports titles. Hell, I have NBA Live 09 that kept me updated through this season with all the dumping done by the Wizards.
by TerroristFistJab on Jul 29, 2010 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions
Well you can do that on either system
So it still comes down to…
Do your friends have either system? Do you want a free blu-ray player? Do you want to ever play online?
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
Oh, and
do you want to be able to play a decent baseball game?
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
yes i want the decent baseball game
the free blu-ray is nice, but its not nearly a requirement. online play doesn’t really interest me.
i have friends with both. they all say to get the one that they have, so they aren’t much help.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jul 29, 2010 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions
I own a 360 and my roommate owns a PS3
If you don’t care about the online play or a blu-ray player, I would recommend looking at the games that are exclusive to each system and base your decision on that. I love the hell out of the Mass Effect series (360) but I also bought MLB The Show (PS3) to play on my roommates system because it is far and away the best baseball game.
so it sounds like i need to get a PS3
most of what id play is baseball and football. and possibly COD
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jul 29, 2010 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions
and that
i do kinda like halo tho…..such a tough decision
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jul 29, 2010 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Don't even get me started...
SCEA can force out the pile of dung that was FFXIII and all they can do with GT is give us a “preview” game and a whole ass-load of screenshots.
/recently switched to Forza3
by TerroristFistJab on Jul 29, 2010 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions
FFXIII had nothing to do with Sony
It’s made by Square Enix. It’s on PS3 and 360.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
Everything I read...
was that SCEA pushed them incredibly hard to get it out and get to work on the FFXIV MMO.
by TerroristFistJab on Jul 29, 2010 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions
so best MLB game is MLB the show?
madden best football game?
does the PS3 have MW2?
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jul 29, 2010 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions
sorry for all the game questions btw
i’m a noob when it comes to this stuff. i’ve played madden for PC for the longest time (until they stopped making it for PC). beyond that, the only games i play with any regularity are starcraft, age of empires, flight sim, COD, and a few other assorted games.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jul 29, 2010 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions
The Show is easily the best
Better gameplay, better graphics, better career and dynasty modes, less bugs… I could keep going. I own both and he difference is quite striking. I think PS3 has MW2 but not sure, I’d have to look it up.
okay cool
the only thing that kills me is how fast they upgrade these things. madden keeps getting better and better each year (the AI still blows) and it always gets me shelling out 50 bucks.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jul 29, 2010 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Just checked MW2 is on PS3
You can check www.ign.com for that stuff, just search the game and it will tell you what platforms it is on.
sounds like the PS3 is what i need then
although i do kinda wanna be able to kick duck’s ass in some MW2…….
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jul 29, 2010 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions
You can play me in MW2 instead
and in Madden and MLB for that matter
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
you have a 360 or ps3?
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jul 29, 2010 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh, 1 more thing
If you have mlb.tv, the ps3 app for that is pretty damn awesome
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
Dude, a 5 year old can kick my ass on MW2
Aim higher
"Overdrive the sound and make it sound pretty rude." - Jimmy Page
haha i was just joking around
but really? you need to up your game man!
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jul 29, 2010 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions
I suck at shooting games
Horrible at Halo. Horrible. Passable at best at MW2. Not so great at RDR. My video game career peaked in 1982 at age 14.
"Overdrive the sound and make it sound pretty rude." - Jimmy Page
i suck at video games too
especially the shooting ones
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jul 29, 2010 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Really,
the console control scheme for first-person shooters is pretty terrible. Two analog sticks is an awful interface.
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
agreed!
the PC is so much better. a mouse is the only way to go.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jul 29, 2010 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Yep.
I don’t really play FPSs, but I would hate playing, say, Mass Effect on a console.
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
See...
I completely suck with a pc. I grew up on consoles, so i’m a whole lot better on them. I’m shit on the computer.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
the analog sticks kill me
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jul 29, 2010 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes, Yes, and Yes...
Madden bought exclusive rights to the NFL/NFLPA. Total monopoly. The 2k series of baseball games is…awful. Pitching mechanics are balls and the animations haven’t improved much at all since the current gen. consoles came out.
MLB: The Show is the shit, seriously. You can spend years inside t he franchise mode (full GM capabilities: set the 40 man, manage/play AA/AAA affiliates, make trades, draft players, DFA guys, etc.) That doesn’t even mention the Road to the Show mode where you create a player and rise through the minor leagues, etc.
MW2 is out on both consoles, if you aren’t interested in multi-player online, it really doesn’t matter either way. If you do go online, just be prepared to be called a fag every thirty seconds.
by TerroristFistJab on Jul 29, 2010 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions
hahahahaha
If you do go online, just be prepared to be called a fag every thirty seconds.
i love how civilized we are when we play our games
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jul 29, 2010 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions
That was the nicest...
thing I’ve been called while playing. The number of kids that have PSN ID’s that involve “KKK” and “NIGRKILLA”, it makes me scared for the future.
by TerroristFistJab on Jul 29, 2010 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions
kids these days......
back in my day, we didnt even HAVE video games
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jul 29, 2010 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions
I remember when I got my Nintendo
I was 5 or so and my mom bought it for her, not for me. She was an atari/arcade gamer.
my sister and i split the cost of an N64 back when we were like 10 or something
first and last game console i’ve owned. although i did own a game boy color and a game boy advance (both of which were huge wastes of money)
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jul 29, 2010 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Wow, really?
GBA is perhaps my favorite system ever, excluding PC but including consoles.
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
didnt play it enough
plus the screens are so small i could never really get into that. id rather play on my big screen.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jul 29, 2010 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions
GBA SP got me through so many deployments
while I was in the Navy. i loved the hell out of that thing.
Personally,
I love MLB Power Pros 2008 (PS2 & Wii), but I guess it’s not for everyone.
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
Oh, and Mass Effect is fantastic.
I play it on PC, but I’ve turned into quite the BioWare fan over the last few years. I just upgraded my computer and am working on a couple of replays of ME1 to set up replays of ME2.
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
How's ME1?
I want to do the series right, but is ME1 good or is it just so-so?
by TerroristFistJab on Jul 29, 2010 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Now that is cool...
I’ll have to go pick that up first then.
by TerroristFistJab on Jul 29, 2010 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions
It's quite good.
I definitely think it’s worth a playthrough before you play ME2, even if you just stick to the main story (“missions”) and avoid most of the admittedly-repetitive sidequests (“assignments”). The gameplay is really streamlined in ME2, so you might not want to go back for a second playthrough of ME1, especially if you’re more a shooter guy than an RPG guy.
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
I am a Fallout nut...
so the RPG element is right up my alley.
by TerroristFistJab on Jul 29, 2010 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions
both of my roommates last year had one
so i didnt need my own.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jul 29, 2010 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions
OK, we might be the biggest fucking morons of all time
Buster Olney:
Heard this: Other teams that have asked the Orioles about the availability of some of their players are getting the vibe that Baltimore is greatly concerned about stripping their roster to the point that they are concerned about being even worse down the stretch than they have been in the first four months. “I think they’re worried about being a 115-loss team,” said a rival executive.
Fuck this team.
To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa
seriously!
we’re going to fucking lose those games anyways! plus, exactly how much are we going to lose by trading some of these guys considering nobody has played to potential anyways?
this team makes me want to seriously injure myself.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jul 29, 2010 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions
Not to mention...
…the guys we’re talking about trading are part of why we’re losing 115 games anyway.
Oh, and the difference between 100 losses and 115 losses? Zero.
To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa
Incorrect
its 15. You take 100 and you subtract 115 and you have -15. It’s quite simple, really.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
by daveh873 on Jul 29, 2010 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
No, I stand by my original statement
Losses aren’t like oranges.
To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa
snark meter needs tuning?
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jul 29, 2010 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions
exactly!
how much are we really gonna lose by getting rid of wiggy and such? can’t be THAT much more than we’re already losing…
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jul 29, 2010 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions
FAIL
The Orioles are on pace to win 50 games, so we are literally talking about losing 112 games but being afraid of losing 115 games.
Tiger got to hunt, bird got to fly; Man got to sit and wonder, 'Why, why, why?' Tiger got to sleep, bird got to land; Man got to tell himself he understand.
Yeah
If you believe that Wiggy and Tejada, both one win players at best, are going to somehow contribute three wins over sixty games.
We should win perhaps one more game if we make no trades. Maybe.
To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa
well
im guessing they’re getting calls on Guthrie and Luke Scott (and Will Ohman), too.
Tiger got to hunt, bird got to fly; Man got to sit and wonder, 'Why, why, why?' Tiger got to sleep, bird got to land; Man got to tell himself he understand.
You aren't paying attention
if we do that, we will lose 115 games! We’ll be a laughingstock!
Tiger got to hunt, bird got to fly; Man got to sit and wonder, 'Why, why, why?' Tiger got to sleep, bird got to land; Man got to tell himself he understand.
snark meter really needs tuning...
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jul 29, 2010 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions
Repeat the above thought about Angelos
If this is Andy MacPhail’s line of reasoning, this team will never be worth a shit under him.
Miss Iowa needs to get over herself
Not that I’d expect anything less from a Miss America contestant or whatever the hell she is.
Oh and now we’re warming up Uehara. He’ll die. He will actually DIE if he pitches in this heat. -KenDixonFanClub
Trent Mummey's at-bat music last night was Chiddy Bang
I might have a new favorite baseball player if he ever makes it to the majors.
OK, whoever designs nicotine patches...
….this bullshit where they burn for the first hour or so after you put them on? Let’s work on that.
To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa
you are the cause of your own suffering, my friend
Tiger got to hunt, bird got to fly; Man got to sit and wonder, 'Why, why, why?' Tiger got to sleep, bird got to land; Man got to tell himself he understand.
You're absorbing a chemical through your skin
doesn’t seem odd that it’d burn a little.
Oh and now we’re warming up Uehara. He’ll die. He will actually DIE if he pitches in this heat. -KenDixonFanClub
Didn't say it was odd
But the entire experience is unpleasant enough as it is.
To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa
Kudos on giving it a go
Hope it works out.
Oh and now we’re warming up Uehara. He’ll die. He will actually DIE if he pitches in this heat. -KenDixonFanClub
Wear them when you sleep
Have some craaaazy dreams
The stock market will never recover, our armies will never again be #1, and our children will drink filthy water for the rest of their lives - HST
by the fix is in on Jul 29, 2010 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Now I have to go to a meeting for three hours
Which is about two hours longer than my attention span.
Oh and now we’re warming up Uehara. He’ll die. He will actually DIE if he pitches in this heat. -KenDixonFanClub
well thats 3 hrs longer than mine, so you have me beat
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jul 29, 2010 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions
what'd ya say?
I got distracted there for a sec….
"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." ~ The Dude
by PBR me ASAP! on Jul 29, 2010 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions
i cant even remember!
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jul 29, 2010 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions
ESPN reporting we hired Showalter
Say his first game will be August 3rd.
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=5420224
To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa
About time.
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
From MLBTR (see, I can cite, too!):
1:22pm: Showalter’s contract runs through 2013, tweets Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports.
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
fat boy failed his conditioning test
fucking waste of money. 21 million and he cant even stay in shape.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
I assume this is about Cody?
Turning out to be a pretty unfortunate draft for the Ravens. Looked killer at the time.
"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." ~ The Dude
by PBR me ASAP! on Jul 29, 2010 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions
albert haynesworth actually
although my comment would apply to cody too. don’t feel bad though, every redskins draft sucks, so you still have us beat. (minus brian orakpo last year…that guy’s a stud)
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jul 29, 2010 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Steelers fan actually
- runs for cover *
"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." ~ The Dude
by PBR me ASAP! on Jul 29, 2010 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions
har har har
whats the deal with roethlisberger anyways?
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jul 29, 2010 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Ben is a fucking caveman
who has been given fortune and fame. Hopefully he has some good people around him who have gotten through that thick fucking skull of his and explained that he needs to become a well manned member of society.
(But the 2 rings were welcome) :-)
"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." ~ The Dude
by PBR me ASAP! on Jul 29, 2010 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions
hahaha i love "ben is a fucking caveman"
thats a nice way of putting it
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jul 29, 2010 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions
HAH!
As a Redskins fan, this just made my day all that much more interesting. How in the hell are they going to trade him now? He’s fucking umovable, even with the Redskins taking the hit on the dough this offseason.
Vinny Fucking Cerrato.
by TerroristFistJab on Jul 29, 2010 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions
i hated it when they signed him
i hated it more when he hardly played last year. now i fucking despise him. hes gonna get about a million bucks for every DOWN he plays as a redskin. fucking go to hell, asshole.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jul 29, 2010 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions
and by asshole i mean haynesworth
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jul 29, 2010 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm torn
the logical move is to cut him, to move on, add him to the list of FA busts along with Big Daddy, Dana Stubblefield, Jeff George, Deion Sanders, Mark Carrier, Jesse Armstead, Jeremiah Trotter, takes a breath, Adam Archuleta, Bruce Smith, Brandon Lloyd, and Antwaan Randel El.
/could recite that list from memory – I now hate football
by TerroristFistJab on Jul 29, 2010 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions
i actually think he's going to be a beast this year.
i am not defending the signing or the ridiculous amounts of money. but i think he’s seen the writing on the wall and is going to re-dedicate.
time will tell.
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
i hope you know something i dont
i think hes a fat jerk who just came to camp to get his money.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jul 29, 2010 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions
That's probably right...
considering he consulted with the NFLPA back in June, asking specifically what he had to do at minimum to prevent the Skins from getting money from him.
by TerroristFistJab on Jul 29, 2010 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions
is that true?
i’m hating the fucker more and more now.
actually, i really hate all of the players unions. like the NHLPA bitching about the NHL rejecting kovalchuk’s fucking stupid 17 year deal of which he’ll play about 8 of those (at best) in NJ.
go flyerzzzzz!
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jul 29, 2010 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions
He went because...
Bruce Allen got Keenan McCardell to give his dough back since he didn’t show in camp. Fat Al may be a drunk-driving, head-stomping, stripper-banging turd, but a dummy he ain’t.
by TerroristFistJab on Jul 29, 2010 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions
must. control. serious. rage.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jul 29, 2010 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions
and get a new line of work
jeez….i want to make 21 mil to eat donuts and sit on my ass
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jul 29, 2010 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions
It also wouldn't surprise me if he plays the minimum required to get his benefits
6 games I think? After that I see him effectively quitting.
which is precisely...
why I wish they had taken the reported offers of a 3rd and a 5th for him around the draft.
by TerroristFistJab on Jul 29, 2010 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh, no, he'll have a hard to diagnose strain somewhere
or migraines. That’s it, he’ll say he has migraines. Can’t prove he doesn’t, right?
"Overdrive the sound and make it sound pretty rude." - Jimmy Page
When the hell is he going to rededicate???
The season starts in like 5 weeks – how much better shape is going to get in over that time??
Rub some $100 bills on it, you sell-out. -duck
if he actually cares, he could get himself into fantastic shape
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jul 29, 2010 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions
he won't be in amazing playing condition, no
but 5 weeks is enough time to get into pretty darn good shape if you really care
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jul 29, 2010 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Give me a HS kid and 3 weeks
and I can have him in pretty damn good shape. 2 hours of structured hell 6 days a week can improve your conditioning pretty quickly.
"Overdrive the sound and make it sound pretty rude." - Jimmy Page
This is not a high school kid
this is a fat worthless piece of shit adult.
Rub some $100 bills on it, you sell-out. -duck
thats why i said "if he actually cares"
i went from no shape into outstanding 10k shape in less than a month. if there’s a will, there’s a way.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jul 29, 2010 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Absolutely
Although I firmly doubt there’s a will in this case.
"Overdrive the sound and make it sound pretty rude." - Jimmy Page
Absolutely
Although I firmly doubt there’s a will in this case.
"Overdrive the sound and make it sound pretty rude." - Jimmy Page
Even if there was a will
he’s too much of a pussy momma’s boy to go through the pain of working hard.
Rub some $100 bills on it, you sell-out. -duck
this
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jul 29, 2010 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions
he's apparently 40 lbs lighter than this time last year.
i wouldn’t be surprised if his “conditioning fail” was a leverage move by the team.
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
yea he's still overweight
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jul 29, 2010 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions
I think they are giving Haynesworth every opportunity to play
It’s up to him to come around. If he doesn’t by start of season, then cut his ass.
what NFL teams are they following in hawaii anyways?
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jul 29, 2010 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Don't live there anymore
But actually the Redskins are quite popular (I was shocked as anyone)
But the main teams are the Seahawks and Steelers.
seahawks make sense
even if they do suck
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jul 29, 2010 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Some of the Redskins is due to Colt Brennan
But I met a lot of people from the DC area there as well.
i forgot about him!
i actually hope he makes the team this year. i was kinda cheering for him or daniels to make it last year
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jul 29, 2010 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions
sad thing is, sexy rexy always plays well enough to earn his spot
and then just sucks. hopefully bruce allen sees thru that shit and dumps his ass before it even becomes a problem. who’s the backup tho when mcnabb gets hurt?
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jul 29, 2010 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions
I think the Cody conditioning test was just Harbaugh playing games
I bet he could’ve come in and outrun Ray Rice and Harbaugh still would have failed him. They know they need to keep on him about his weight and this was one way to make the point.
I absolutely LOVED Shanahan's comments about it
You can tell he fucking hates Haynesworth with a passion. I bet Fat Albert’s mom is calling right now to complain that the conditioning test was too hard and not fun enough for her fat worthless piece of shit son.
Rub some $100 bills on it, you sell-out. -duck
good
shanahan ought to hate his fat ass. man is trying to put a TEAM together from pretty much nothing and fat boy is making that really hard.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jul 29, 2010 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions
haynesworth: "man, i didnt even run 3 300 yard sprints when i was a pro bowler!!"
shanahan: “well you must not have ever been in good shape then!”
lmao!!!!
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jul 29, 2010 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions
O's agree to terms with 10th round pick
Today is going to be pretty much all Buck Showalter all the time, but just a quick non-manager note. The Orioles have agreed to terms with their 10th round pick, Clayton Schrader, a right-handed pitcher out of San Jacinto Junior College in Texas.
Schrader is the 30th pick the Orioles have signed, but only the second within the top 10.
http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/sports/orioles/blog/2010/07/os_agree_to_terms_with_10th_ro.html
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
Schrader is a nice arm for the 10th round
Good signing.
To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa
Lotta good news around Camden Chat today with this and Buck's hiring
so I expect 1 of 2 things to happen this evening:
1) Brian pitches a gem, O’s win and this site melts due to giddiness
or (more likely)
2) Brian brings a heapin’ helpin’ of suck to KC tonight, gets shellacked, and brings us all back to our senses
"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." ~ The Dude
by PBR me ASAP! on Jul 29, 2010 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Addendum:
Option 1 should also include, Miggi gets traded
"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." ~ The Dude
by PBR me ASAP! on Jul 29, 2010 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions
and fox
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jul 29, 2010 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions
and Corey?
"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." ~ The Dude
by PBR me ASAP! on Jul 29, 2010 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions
and gonzalez
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jul 29, 2010 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions
and Albers?
"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." ~ The Dude
by PBR me ASAP! on Jul 29, 2010 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions
and the mentor?
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jul 29, 2010 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Matt Albers wants to know...
if Golden Corral has a team?
by TerroristFistJab on Jul 29, 2010 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions
All you can eat ribs!!!!1!!1
"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." ~ The Dude
by PBR me ASAP! on Jul 29, 2010 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions
He, Sidney Ponson...
and the ghost of Sid Fernandez would make an awesome rotation at the dessert buffet.
by TerroristFistJab on Jul 29, 2010 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions
ugh....that place is the most disgusting dump ive ever been inside of
even worse than the cockroaches in bojangles. never again. never again.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jul 29, 2010 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions
I hate Bojangles
I’m a youth pastor and all the kids in my youth group love the place. Every trip I ask them where they want to eat and it’s always Bojangles.
I hate that place!
"I could no more abandon my Orioles than I could repudiate my family, or my native heath, or my own childhood—even though I know it is a devotion that can now bring only grief." - David Bentley Hart
by Gorilla Bird on Jul 29, 2010 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions
its the nastiest fucking "chicken" or whatever it is EVER
sooooo disgusting
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jul 29, 2010 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions
agreed!
Their breakfast biscuits aren’t too bad, but everything else (chicken, fries, etc) is just plain awful.
"I could no more abandon my Orioles than I could repudiate my family, or my native heath, or my own childhood—even though I know it is a devotion that can now bring only grief." - David Bentley Hart
by Gorilla Bird on Jul 30, 2010 12:21 AM EDT up reply actions
Ugh, football and video games
Oh and now we’re warming up Uehara. He’ll die. He will actually DIE if he pitches in this heat. -KenDixonFanClub
I can do politics too...
Should we do Shirley Sherrod or AZ immigration?
/kidding
/kind of
by TerroristFistJab on Jul 29, 2010 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions
That's quite alright
Oh and now we’re warming up Uehara. He’ll die. He will actually DIE if he pitches in this heat. -KenDixonFanClub
Please don't.
It always turns into either lots of ranting I hate having to “z” through, or unpleasant and unconstructive arguing.
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
See what happens when you leave?
Still better than a three-hour meeting, though.
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
Yeah I guess
Although there was cake at the meeting.
Oh and now we’re warming up Uehara. He’ll die. He will actually DIE if he pitches in this heat. -KenDixonFanClub
mmmm i like cake
a lot
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jul 29, 2010 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions
"The ratio of people to cake is too big"
"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." ~ The Dude
by PBR me ASAP! on Jul 29, 2010 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions
I do enjoy comparing my office to Office Space
Oh and now we’re warming up Uehara. He’ll die. He will actually DIE if he pitches in this heat. -KenDixonFanClub
I'll assume that's some pop culture reference that I'm not cool enough to get.
Oh and now we’re warming up Uehara. He’ll die. He will actually DIE if he pitches in this heat. -KenDixonFanClub
It's actually a video game reference
I thought it fit nicely here.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
Oh, so it's some pop culture reference that I'm not dorky enough to get.
That’s better.
Oh and now we’re warming up Uehara. He’ll die. He will actually DIE if he pitches in this heat. -KenDixonFanClub
A blogger...
calling a video game reference “dorky”. Well knock me over with a feather.
/joins OsGirl
by TerroristFistJab on Jul 29, 2010 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions
BANNED
Oh and now we’re warming up Uehara. He’ll die. He will actually DIE if he pitches in this heat. -KenDixonFanClub
C'mon...
that didn’t even get a chuckle?
by TerroristFistJab on Jul 29, 2010 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions
hearty belly laughs
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jul 29, 2010 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Portal
It’s actually about as dorky as you can get. It’s a non-violent physics-based game where you open and travel through portals in order to navigate through a room. It’s basically a 3d brain teaser. It’s quite awesome.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
It actually sounds kind of awesome
I enjoy a good brain teaser.
Oh and now we’re warming up Uehara. He’ll die. He will actually DIE if he pitches in this heat. -KenDixonFanClub
Here’s the wiki about it, here’s the preview video explaining it, and if you download steam you can get a demo for free.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
I'd have thought you'd prefer Pie
::rimshot::
Tiger got to hunt, bird got to fly; Man got to sit and wonder, 'Why, why, why?' Tiger got to sleep, bird got to land; Man got to tell himself he understand.
two pianos and a cymbal fall from a cliff.........
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jul 29, 2010 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions
two things i do best
other than cook and baseball of course
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jul 29, 2010 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions
The Rangers still owe MICKEY TETTLETON money!!!! Insane
"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." ~ The Dude
Phils got Oswalt
Gave up Happ and 2 prospects
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
and the prospects were an A ball OF and SS
Not a bad trade for the Phils
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
i told you guys the phillies were committing highway robbery
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jul 29, 2010 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Pretty much.
I was worried they were gonna give up Singleton or another big name, but especially considering how much cash they’re getting, it’s a pretty solid deal for the Phils.
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
incredibly solid deal for the phils
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jul 29, 2010 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions
and the Astros just shipped the OF prospect (Gose) to Toronto for Brett Wallace. Wow.
"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." ~ The Dude
by PBR me ASAP! on Jul 29, 2010 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions
"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." ~ The Dude
by PBR me ASAP! on Jul 29, 2010 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions
what? why?
I thought Wallace was way better than a prospect who has been traded three times now. What gives?
Tiger got to hunt, bird got to fly; Man got to sit and wonder, 'Why, why, why?' Tiger got to sleep, bird got to land; Man got to tell himself he understand.
surprised me too. even more surprising though is this
The Red Sox are desperate enough for relief help that Gonzo’s name is now coming up
The O’s could only be so lucky to ship his ass off
"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." ~ The Dude
by PBR me ASAP! on Jul 29, 2010 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions
oh my god that would be incredible
although he’s looked good stuff-wise the last few outings
Rub some $100 bills on it, you sell-out. -duck
DEAL
you know how they say “patience is a virtue”?? yea….that’s a lie.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jul 29, 2010 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Um... we dont DEAL in the division
we’re trying to win a pennant here, people.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
Miggi a late scratch from the lineup...
…let the speculation begin!
I say he goes to Philly for Jonathan Singleton. We pick up the money. I’m feeling lucky today.
To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa
Nope, Padres...
…Josh Bell on his way back.
To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa
By the way I'm loving the silent treatment. It's so cute.
Reminds me of my freshman year in high school when my incredibly immature girlfriend would get all pissy because I went to baseball practice instead of listening to 40 Oz. to Freedom with her in her room.
Rub some $100 bills on it, you sell-out. -duck
Sweet!
"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." ~ The Dude
by PBR me ASAP! on Jul 29, 2010 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Heh
Britt says Tejada is pissed.
Not as pissed as we were watching you, Miggi.
To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa
pissed about what, exactly?
We paid you a ton of money, you sucked, now you get to be in a pennant race. Sounds like you should be doing a goddamned tapdance, you lucky devil you.
Tiger got to hunt, bird got to fly; Man got to sit and wonder, 'Why, why, why?' Tiger got to sleep, bird got to land; Man got to tell himself he understand.
He likes to play
Missing a game to fly cross country makes Miggi mad! No play on plane!
To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa
Of course I still don't think Bell is major-league ready
but if he’s up here to actually play everyday, then that’s so much nicer than holding on to Tejada in hopes of only losing 112 games.
Tiger got to hunt, bird got to fly; Man got to sit and wonder, 'Why, why, why?' Tiger got to sleep, bird got to land; Man got to tell himself he understand.
Connoly says the Orioles get an arm plus salary relief
To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa
should've kept the money
and grabbed two arms…or one good arm.
Tiger got to hunt, bird got to fly; Man got to sit and wonder, 'Why, why, why?' Tiger got to sleep, bird got to land; Man got to tell himself he understand.
As much as I agree
Hard to think you can get much for Miggi, even if you pay the freight.
To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa
well, I'm completely shocked
that we DID get anything for Tejada…but you’d have to think that if we threw in the two million dollars that we’d get more/better thing(s).
Tiger got to hunt, bird got to fly; Man got to sit and wonder, 'Why, why, why?' Tiger got to sleep, bird got to land; Man got to tell himself he understand.
Wynn Pelzer
I’ve heard it’s a nice arm…someone get me up to speed!
Tiger got to hunt, bird got to fly; Man got to sit and wonder, 'Why, why, why?' Tiger got to sleep, bird got to land; Man got to tell himself he understand.
Sickles had Pelzer #5 on his list for the Pads this year
"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." ~ The Dude
by PBR me ASAP! on Jul 29, 2010 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions
His quote:
“Wynn Pelzer, RHP, Grade B: A personal favorite, he strikes people out and gets grounders with plus stuff. Really like him a lot.”
"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." ~ The Dude
by PBR me ASAP! on Jul 29, 2010 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions
If that's the case, i'm down with it
Andy Mac strikes again!
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
a lot of walks at AA this year
A LOT of walks. And he’s 24. So he’s not perfect by any means. Love to see more ground ball pitchers in the system with the fly ball rates of Guts, Matusz, Tillman, and Arrieta
Tiger got to hunt, bird got to fly; Man got to sit and wonder, 'Why, why, why?' Tiger got to sleep, bird got to land; Man got to tell himself he understand.
He's a former college closer
I think a lot of this is adjusting to starting and needing secondary pitches.
To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa
Make no mistake
I love this trade. I said a month ago that for all of his flaws, Andy MacPhail has made a very good career with trading off veterans, and that continues today. Can’t imagine what San Diego is thinking though. Did they need more GIDPs?
Tiger got to hunt, bird got to fly; Man got to sit and wonder, 'Why, why, why?' Tiger got to sleep, bird got to land; Man got to tell himself he understand.
They needed someone who could show patience at the plate
work counts, and improve the offense. Oh and some defense at shortstop. Do you think I could sell them a lake in the Sahara?
i love this as well
i didn’t like the miggy signing anyways, so this is a nice little take. if this guy can cut the walks, it won’t be bad considering how bad our bullpen is.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jul 29, 2010 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions
does espn.com or something have a trade tracker?
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
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