Reviewing the Draft: Joe Jordan Year Three - 2007
by James F on Aug 18, 2010 2:00 PM EDT
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PrintThis would be the final draft conducted by Jordan before Andy MacPhail's tenure, and MacPhail was brought in before the signings of this draft were complete. It is also the draft where the Orioles selected Matt Wieters and Jake Arrieta, the first major overslot signing of Jordan's tenure.
It is also the first draft where Jordan lost picks due to free agent signings. After having had supplemental first rounders in both 2005 and 2006, the Orioles did not have a selection from the fifth overall pick until the fourth round. Because of this, the Orioles missed out on players like Mike Stanton, Freddie Freeman, and Danny Duffy. Of course, another way of looking at it is that they missed out on players like Eric Niesen and Michael Watt, or on drafting and failing to sign Joshua Fields, who was taken with the Orioles' pick in the 2nd round and not signed by the Braves.
| Player Selected | Position | Round | Overall | HS/JC/College | Signed? |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Matt Wieters | Catcher | 1 | 5 | College | Yes |
| Tim Bascom | RHP | 4 | 129 | College | Yes |
| Jake Arrieta | RHP | 5 | 159 | College | Yes |
| Joe Mahoney | 1b | 6 | 189 | College | Yes |
| Matt Angle | OF | 7 | 219 | College | Yes |
| Shane Matthews | RHP | 8 | 249 | College | Yes |
| James Crowley | ss | 9 | 279 | JC | Yes |
| Eryk McConnell | RHP | 10 | 309 | College | No |
| Robbie Widlansky | OF | 11 | 339 | College | Yes |
| Wally Crancer | OF | 12 | 369 | College | Yes |
| Jordan Wolf | Catcher | 13 | 399 | College | Yes |
| Hank Williamson | RHP | 14 | 429 | JC | Yes |
| Tyrone Hambly | 3b | 15 | 459 | JC | No |
| Tyler Kolodny | 3b | 16 | 489 | HS | Yes |
| Jason White | ss | 17 | 519 | College | Yes |
| John Marrioti | RHP | 18 | 549 | College | Yes |
| Brian Parker | RHP | 19 | 579 | College | Yes |
| Sean Gleason | RHP | 20 | 609 | College | Yes |
| Scott Mueller | RHP | 21 | 639 | College | Yes |
| Colin Allen | RHP | 22 | 669 | JC | Yes |
| Anthony Kirbis | RHP | 23 | 699 | HS | Yes |
| Daniel Klein | RHP | 24 | 729 | HS | No |
| Clifford Flagello | RHP | 25 | 759 | HS | Yes |
| Justin Moore | RHP | 26 | 789 | HS | Yes |
| Kraig Binick | OF | 27 | 819 | HS | Yes |
| Stephen Procner | LHP | 28 | 849 | College | Yes |
| Danny Heller | OF | 29 | 879 | JC | Yes |
| Brandon Cooney | RHP | 30 | 909 | College | Yes |
| Matt Tucker | 3b | 31 | 939 | College | Yes |
| Pete Andrelczyk | RHP | 32 | 968 | College | No |
| Jacob Julius | OF | 33 | 997 | College | Yes |
| Kyle Touchat | RHP | 34 | 1026 | College | Yes |
| Eric Perlozzo | 2b | 35 | 1055 | HS | Yes |
| Calvin Lester | OF | 36 | 1084 | College | Yes |
| Merrill Kelly | RHP | 37 | 1112 | HS | No |
| Michael Harrington | OF | 38 | 1140 | College | No |
| Joseph Yermal | RHP | 39 | 1168 | HS | No |
| Aaron Odom | LHP | 40 | 1196 | College | Yes |
| Russell Wilson | 2b/ss | 41 | 1222 | HS | No |
| Joe DiGeronimo | ss | 42 | 1248 | College | Yes |
| Cole McCurry | LHP | 43 | 1274 | College | Yes |
| Travis Dirk | RHP | 44 | 1300 | JC | No |
| Jacob Smith | LHP | 45 | 1326 | HS | Yes |
| Lee Ellis | OF | 46 | 1350 | College | Yes |
| Preston Pehrson | Catcher | 47 | 1373 | College | Yes |
| Nick Ray | OF | 48 | 1395 | HS | Yes |
| Tyler Newsome | OF | 49 | 1416 | HS | No |
| Michael Gioioso | ss | 50 | 1437 | College | Yes |
- After two consecutive years of selecting a high schooler with his first overall pick, Jordan did not select a prep player until the 15th round.
- The Orioles signed all but 10 of their 48 selections, the greatest percentage of draftees signed under Jordan.
- The Orioles spent more on their first overall selection, Matt Wieters, than they had on their entire draft classes from 2005 and 2006.
- 29 of the players selected were from college, 12 were from high school, and 6 were from junior college.
- 24 of the players selected were pitchers, while 24 were position players.
- 24th round pick Dan Klein did not sign, and was redrafted in 2010 by the Orioles with their third round pick.
- 32nd round pick Pete Andrelczyk did not sign, and was redrafted by the Marlins in the fifth round of the 2008 draft. Used out of the bullpen, Andrelcyzk has a K/9 of 9.9 in over 160 minor league innings, but has not risen above AA.
- 37th round pick Merrill Kelly did not sign, and was redrafted by the Rays in the eighth round of the 2010 draft.
- 38th round pick Michael Harrington did not sign, and was redrafted by the Twins in the 13th round of the 2008 draft. He has not been very good, with an OPS of .664 in 207 minor league games.
- 41st round pick Russell Wilson did not sign and is the starting quarterback for N.C. State, and was selected by the Rockies in the fourth round of the 2010 draft.
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Not a bad draft
Considering Wieters was a gift, and he didn’t have many picks. I’ll take a top prospect and a top 100 prospect from a draft class anyday.
"I have seen the future and his name is Matt Wieters." Keith Law
lots of interesting information packed into here
Thanks James!
Also, it may be me but the Wieters photo is covering up the top right part of the table.
It is also the first draft where Jordan lost picks due to free agent signings. After having had supplemental first rounders in both 2005 and 2006, the Orioles did not have a selection from the fifth overall pick until the fourth round.
Out of curiosity, does anyone remember who we signed to lose these picks? I wanna say it was Chad Bradford, Danys Baez, and Mr. Fits in a Skillet.
Don't mess with the bull, young man. You'll get the horns.
Karim Garcia?
Obviously not, but I think it’s important to occasionally remember what we used to deal with in Birdland.
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by arlingtonOsFan on Aug 18, 2010 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Who's Karim Garcia?
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
by daveh873 on Aug 19, 2010 7:00 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Rec'd.
Buck Showalter clearly isn't interested in having Anthony Rendon as a member of the Orioles.
by BaltimoreSportsFan on Aug 19, 2010 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions
Baez and Jamie walker maybe?
Useful signings like that.
"I have seen the future and his name is Matt Wieters." Keith Law
by Reddrummer9187 on Aug 18, 2010 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions
it was Baez and Chadford
man, that was dumb. I’m not even going to bring up whatshisface, since at least whatshisface has a pretty strong track record of being a good pitcher, but we gave up a second rounder for DANYS BAEZ. No wonder Flanny is doing broadcasts now and the rest of those goons were run off to do radio shows where they criticize the Orioles, completely oblivious to the outstanding job they did on that team.
...a piece of V mail in which everything but the salutation "Dear Mary" had been blocked out and on which the censoring officer had written, "I long for you tragically. R. O. Shipman, Chaplain, U.S. Army."
Baez is the one that really bothered me
He was paid the most out of the famed reliever trio and he cost us a pick. And he wasn’t evening that fucking good the year before he signed with us (ERA+ 100 in 2006)!
Don't mess with the bull, young man. You'll get the horns.
but he had closing experience!
that’s more valuable than any of your stupid stats like VORP or MOMA or EqNERD+
...a piece of V mail in which everything but the salutation "Dear Mary" had been blocked out and on which the censoring officer had written, "I long for you tragically. R. O. Shipman, Chaplain, U.S. Army."
by Andrew_G on Aug 18, 2010 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I think the Baez/Bradford/Walker stuff is what made the Gonzo signing so mystifying, really
Here we had, in the not-so-distant past, a clear illustration of why spending significant sums of money to try to “shore up the bullpen” is a foolish errand.
I guess it’s not quite the same degree with Gonzo as the contract is shorter, he was the only one signed and it looks a lot worse because of his performance in the first week of the season due to injury. Plus a 2nd round draft pick this year couldn’t have hurt.
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by Eat More Esskay on Aug 18, 2010 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions
also, Gonzo is a much better pitcher than those 3 are or were at the time
but still, spending money on the bullpen is generally pointless
LaChad and Mr. Skillet were damn good before we signed them
And LaChad was good for the O’s. Mr. Skillet put up 1 good season. I think the lesson is that long term contracts are dumb for relievers. 1 or 2 year deals are fine.
Don't mess with the bull, young man. You'll get the horns.
Jamie Walker put up a sub-4 FIP once in his career.
Your right about Bradford though, I had never looked up his career stats before and he went sub-3 FIP twice. Gonzo is still better than him, but Bradford was better than I thought.
sub 3 is a high bar
3.33 ERA in DET with a 132 ERA+. Pretty good track record IMO.
Don't mess with the bull, young man. You'll get the horns.
check out his fangraphs page
that ERA was well below his FIP. Not saying he was useless, but he definitely wasn’t worth giving much more than the league minimum too.
http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=502&position=P
and yet
no matter how you look at it, he was pretty good in ’07 and completely imploded in ’08 in an unpredictable way. I miss that good ole boy, sort of. He was fun to root for.
...a piece of V mail in which everything but the salutation "Dear Mary" had been blocked out and on which the censoring officer had written, "I long for you tragically. R. O. Shipman, Chaplain, U.S. Army."
well, I would say that the main difference between '07 and '08
is he had a 6.7% HR/FB in ‘07 and a 17.6% HR/FB in ’08. His K and BB rates were slightly different, but it wasn’t a huge change. I think mostly it was just regression to the HR/FB mean. I’m not gonna tell you I predicted that to happen, cause I didn’t, but looking back now it kinda seems like we should’ve seen it coming, doesn’t it?
I think you mean his ERA was well above his FIP. And yeah, I saw that. But he did it consistently. He played to his defense! j/k sort of. But yeah, his track was never great.
Don't mess with the bull, young man. You'll get the horns.
well, his ERA was generally 3-something
and his FIP was generally 4-something. 3 is well below 4, I think you took it as the performance of a 3 ERA is well above the performance of a 4.
Not that it makes any difference.
What jumps out at me about this draft is
thank god Flanny and Duquette are no longer in charge. But considering we had no picks in the 2nd or 3rd rounds, getting 2 players already contributing in the majors, and 3 more that look likely to contribute (Mahoney, Angle, Cooney), I’d call it a successful draft. Although it would’ve been nice if we had signed Klein the first time and not had to waste a high round pick on him again this year.
Arrieta
I actually remember reading that the lost draft picks were the reason we drafted Arrieta. Jordan was willing to draft a more expensive guy at the posistion, since we didn’t have to spend money on 2nd and 3rd round picks. So I guess there was some upside to the lost picks. Arrieta looks like he could be a solid piece to the rotation for the future.
C-
not signing 1 of the top 10 is embarrassing and not having #2 & #3 is just humiliating. This draft was a major failure.
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by Eat More Esskay on Aug 18, 2010 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions
eryk mcconnell
We dodged a bullet there. I never thought he was a 10th rounder, and then he dropped to the 20th the next year. Russell Wilson, however, would have been a steal in the 41st round. He’s a hell of an athlete and works extremely hard, not sure he’ll make it in both sports like he says, but he should be a threat on the bases at the least.
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that draft
Doesn’t make any sense for a team with few prospects in the minors to throw away high draft picks on relievers. So many years of mismanagement.
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