Friday Bird Droppings
by duck on Sep 10, 2010 6:51 AM EDT
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PrintSteve Melewski: Keys fall by one run in game two of the playoffs
"The Potomac Nationals pushed across a run in the top of the 7th vs. Nate Nery to break a 4-4 tie as the Nationals beat Frederick tonight 5-4 at Harry Grove Stadium. The win evens their best-of-five Northern Division Championship Series at a game each."
Oriole Park: Disputes linger over the benefits of a state-funded stadium
"Eighteen years after Oriole Park at Camden Yards opened in Baltimore to universal praise -- and seasons of sold-out games -- baseball fans continue to visit the brick-and-steel park that is often credited with rejuvenating ballpark design. So is it a success? That depends on who's defining success."
Orioles-Tigers Preview - CBSSports.com
"Jim Joyce is scheduled to be umpiring with Galarraga (4-5, 3.89 ERA) on the mound for the first time since that memorable game against Cleveland. Joyce was at first base and called Jason Donald safe after Galarraga had retired the first 26 batters."
Reliever Matt Albers focused on strong finish to season, not his future with Orioles - baltimoresun.com
"While it has been popular to talk about the way the Orioles have been playing for their jobs next year since Buck Showalter took over as manager, Matt Albers has been in that situation since the beginning of the season."
Orioles: After attitude, technique adjustments, outfielder Felix Pie is a hit with his Orioles teammates - baltimoresun.com
As noted in yesterday's Bird Droppings thread: "He's changed a lot, but when he first got here, you could just tell he had an attitude and a little chip on his shoulder and whatever the hell else was wrong with him," center fielder Adam Jones said. "Luke had to really challenge him, call him out and embarrass him for him to really come into his own. And Luke did it. He and Luke have a bond that nobody else can have in this clubhouse."
Uehara-mania taking root in Baltimore | orioles.com: News
"Orioles closer Koji Uehara and his sideburns are not superhuman. But, as evidenced in the past two months, they're pretty darn close."
School of Roch: The Full Montanez
"My first year when I first showed up to camp in the spring of '07 I was in disbelief that a major league team in the 21st century had such facilities. Even worse was the day I experienced because an experience it is, Twin Lakes Park, the three hour separated minor league facility. Utter embarrassment and almost fear for things to come was what struck me. Picture a glorified chicken coop with no AC, moldy smell, broken tiled bathrooms, and fields that even opposing teams were unwilling to let their players play on. I'm surprised PETA or the ACLU never intervened." I know the link was posted within the BD open thread yesterday, but you MUST read the whole thing. Seriously. Wow.
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I thought I was early
3:51 am? you in Europe or something? :)
651 am
You should check your time zone settings in your profile :)
You can't just walk over us. -Brian Matusz
by Stacey on Sep 10, 2010 8:09 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Either way it's early.
The stache is back!
by Knubles and Bits on Sep 10, 2010 8:16 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
weather outside is ridiculously nice too
and i’m at work. boo hoooooo
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Sep 10, 2010 8:43 AM EDT up reply actions
I was cold when I left this morning at 8.
The stache is back!
by Knubles and Bits on Sep 10, 2010 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions
i know man
its like 70 degrees out right now. i’d rather be golfing.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Sep 10, 2010 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions
I might go actually.
Andrew and re-ignited talks of a CC day at the links while at the Keys game.
The stache is back!
by Knubles and Bits on Sep 10, 2010 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions
darn you
i’m stuck in crystal city without clubs for the remainder of the day. we should have fridays off
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Sep 10, 2010 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions
How was the Keys game...
I was going to try and make it but Ive been battling a nasty flu bug.
by Wieters Wieners on Sep 10, 2010 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions
ton o' fun
golf right now would be superb. I’ll probably hit up at least a driving range this weekend.
...a piece of V mail in which everything but the salutation "Dear Mary" had been blocked out and on which the censoring officer had written, "I long for you tragically. R. O. Shipman, Chaplain, U.S. Army."
I played last weekend and shot a 138.
It was pitiful. I did drop one tee shot 6 feet from the pin on a 175 yard par three, which I only par’d :(
The stache is back!
by Knubles and Bits on Sep 10, 2010 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions
ouch
maybe playing you would make me feel better about my game
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Sep 10, 2010 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions
Hey.
Go fuck yourself. I was also drunk for the back nine.
The stache is back!
by Knubles and Bits on Sep 10, 2010 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions
jeez
personal attacks flying everywhere! i’m hurt!
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Sep 10, 2010 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions
It was one of the most exciting games I have ever seen live.
Potomac scored 8 runs in the top of the first on only 3 hits. I decided that it was over so might as well get drunk. Then Frederick scored 7 in the bottom of the first. Both teams hit a grand slam in the first inning. It was crazy. Only two more runs were scored until the ninth. Both by frederick. Potomac tied it in the top of the ninth at 9. Then LJ Hooooooeessssss scored from first on a bunt with a throwing error (which I missed because I was in the bathroom).
The stache is back!
by Knubles and Bits on Sep 10, 2010 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions
Sonofabitch....
I cant believe I was THIIIIIS close to going.
Sounds like a freaking amazing game. Will you guys be going to any others soon?
by Wieters Wieners on Sep 10, 2010 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions
It was discussed.
Not really sure though.
The stache is back!
by Knubles and Bits on Sep 10, 2010 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions
Minor league season is almost over, sadly
Keys are the only ones playing and the rest of this series will be in VA
You can't just walk over us. -Brian Matusz
good thing i live in va then......
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Sep 10, 2010 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions
I figure, if the Keys play a clinching game
within driving distance, I will def. go. Otherwise, money’s just a little too tight for it.
...a piece of V mail in which everything but the salutation "Dear Mary" had been blocked out and on which the censoring officer had written, "I long for you tragically. R. O. Shipman, Chaplain, U.S. Army."
I figure I'll go to one if they manage to make it to the next round
You can't just walk over us. -Brian Matusz
All of the courses in Montgomery County are freaking expensive.
Maybe I won’t go.
The stache is back!
by Knubles and Bits on Sep 10, 2010 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions
I leave the house for the day at 6:55 am most days
Have to have my son to his bus room at 7:40, and my classes start at 7:50. So I do BD somewhere between 6:15-6:45 most schools days. By the way, I will be sleeping in Tuesday, so don’t look for them before 10 am.
13 years, 171 schools days to go…
"That's what I want to see tomorrow. Do we understand what the f--- I want to see tomorrow? Let's go eat a g-d d--n snack."- Rex Ryan
Um, no.
I’d work as a Wal-Mart greeter first.
"That's what I want to see tomorrow. Do we understand what the f--- I want to see tomorrow? Let's go eat a g-d d--n snack."- Rex Ryan
you'd get a cool blue vest
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Sep 10, 2010 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions
Only foreign country I've been to is Canada
and not sure that counts. At almost $100 a throw for passports (and there are 4 of us), I’ve got other priorities for my limited cash. Like college for the kids. And Xbox games.
"That's what I want to see tomorrow. Do we understand what the f--- I want to see tomorrow? Let's go eat a g-d d--n snack."- Rex Ryan
Really?
I’ve had my passport forever (with its 1 stamp in it), i didnt realize they were that expensive.
you do realize they expire right?
but yea….they’re kinda pricey. had to renew mine last year and it was outrageous. not enough to stop me from travelling tho. pretty solid collection of stamps now.
ps duck: canada counts cuz they still stamp your passport.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Sep 10, 2010 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions
I went in 1984
I’m not sure we even stopped at the border back then.
"That's what I want to see tomorrow. Do we understand what the f--- I want to see tomorrow? Let's go eat a g-d d--n snack."- Rex Ryan
Well by forever i mean like 5 years
Its still good for a while. The only traveling i did before i was 18 was to places where back then you could get away with just a birth certificate and photo ID.
they are $140 for adults plus like a $15 processing fee or some trash.
It’s absolutely ridiculous.
The stache is back!
by Knubles and Bits on Sep 10, 2010 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions
renewals are only $110
not that that makes it any better.
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
Yea still outrageous.
The stache is back!
by Knubles and Bits on Sep 10, 2010 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions
on the plus side, the backlog is done with
both me and Mrs. zk just got our passports renewed, and it was a breeze: the wait time was under 3 weeks, as opposed to the 6-8 that was happening last year.
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
That's good.
I need to get one soon.
The stache is back!
by Knubles and Bits on Sep 10, 2010 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Passport problems? Did somebody mention PASSPORT PROBLEMS?!?
Ahahahahahaha, got that licked. The extremely short version: the US gov’t GAVE UP trying to adjust their passport renewal procedures in some way that would accommodate the BIZZARO Russian visa regime— and just started selllin’ ’em like hotcakes. I now have two (2) valid US passports, and will through the end of October.
C’mon over and gitcha seff a couple. btw, the new ones are really cool— different pics ‘n’ famous quotes on every page. All kinda security bells ‘n’ whistles. And good for 10 yrs…so you might wanna not screw up your pic, as you’re gonna have to live with (and by) it for a long time.
"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.
i'm like 10 years old in my passport picture haha
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Sep 10, 2010 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions
There's a nice scene in my fave Russian movie from the '70s where the hero gets busted...
for not looking enough like his passport pic! But he finally convinces the cop — after making all kinda “younger” faces — that it’s him…
"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.
although the quality of the pic doesn't matter that much
since when you get it back, your face is covered with a bunch of wavy lines.
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
What *I* found most troubling was in the new one, they put a pic of some OLD guy where mine shoulda been...
"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.
montanez is still bitching about his experience with the o's?
yo lou….maybe it could have been better if you could actually hit.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
i read it more like an exit interview than a bitch session.
I've been playing baseball since I was six years old, so that's 40 years I've been on a baseball field and around a baseball field, and so our opinions are formulated through facts, not fiction, not their little chat room jargon.
I hope this is dealt with
“I’m surprised PETA or the ACLU never intervened”
That is awesome. And sad, too.
Librarians are hiding something
Forgot to wish all the Jews on CC a Shana Tova!
Happy Rosh Hashana…I’m off to services.
I'm back. YAY SUMMER!
Not ONE PERSON picked the Vikes in the pool!?!?
COME ON PEOPLE, I was hoping to take an early lead on at least SOMEBODY!
by Wieters Wieners on Sep 10, 2010 9:17 AM EDT reply actions
false
you’re going to lose to me week in and week out. deal with it.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Sep 10, 2010 9:20 AM EDT up reply actions
False
I am the Master of NFL Football…. My fantasy teams are second to none.
Prepare to eat dog shit all year long MATTHEW CLEVELAND!
by Wieters Wieners on Sep 10, 2010 9:23 AM EDT up reply actions
false
i’m going to enjoy spending JONATHAN BRITTON’S money
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Sep 10, 2010 9:29 AM EDT up reply actions
false
i was just continuing the little stream of replies.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Sep 10, 2010 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions
saints K misses two dome shots — either would have covered for the zillion dollars that had n’awlins covering vikes
so very, very curious …. man when the nfl gambling conflagration hits, it will hit hard
by thewaywardO on Sep 10, 2010 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions
I noticed that too. I thought at least someone would have picked the,.
If Favre had shown up for offseason workouts and maybe developed some rythym with his receivers then Minnesota would have won that game. Their defense is legit.
The stache is back!
by Knubles and Bits on Sep 10, 2010 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions
this is exactly what SC wrote on FB after the game
Cris Collinsworth has blamed Percy Harvin’s headaches, Sidney Rice’s hip, Greg Camarillo’s newness, and about 18 other things for the Vikings having no timing or chemistry in their passing game. Surely, SURELY, it can’t be Brett Favre not going to camp and developing no rapport with his receivers. It’s everyone else’s fault! Or some mystery.
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
Bullseye
He should have gotten there early and mentored his young receivers or something.
by CoachOfEarl on Sep 10, 2010 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Granted,
the alternatives are Tavaris Jackson and Sage Rosenfels. I think I take the soon-to-be 41 year old QB showing up just before the last preseason game over either of those two scrubs.
"Give us 10 points and the game is over...And they didn't score on us. Make sure you quote that. They didn't score on our defense."
by organizedchaos52 on Sep 10, 2010 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions
always liked sage rosenfels
he tossed me a signed football at the skins training camp way back in the day.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Sep 10, 2010 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Give him
a couple weeks. They may not win their division (Pack sweeping them certainly won’t help) but those 2 wild card spots should be wide open for any decent team (which they will be if Favre develops any chemistry with anyone).
"Give us 10 points and the game is over...And they didn't score on us. Make sure you quote that. They didn't score on our defense."
by organizedchaos52 on Sep 11, 2010 12:50 AM EDT up reply actions
Who here watches Top Chef?
I just got around to watching the first part of the finale. They seriously stepped up their game this week, by far the best food of the season.
I do, but missed it this week
fortunately they’ll replay it. no spoilers please!
by Dingbat Charlie on Sep 10, 2010 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions
Of course they'll replay it
Bravo only has like 3 shows they just air on loop. Odds are its own right now.
hahah so true
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Sep 10, 2010 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions
+1
Sad at the outcome, though, but really there was nothing but excellence that episode.
Also? Angelo is a bit of a crybaby.
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
right?
He got divorced a year ago because his ex-wife’s family “didn’t think he was good enough for their daughter”, and now he’s already engaged to a woman in Russia.
This smacks of him trying to be a reality TV star.
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
I really was waiting for Anthony Bourdain to rip into him
for saying “he made love” to whatever meat it was he made in that episode. Disappointed that Tony held back.
yeah
but his “I have no idea what you just said” line was pretty good.
by Dingbat Charlie on Sep 10, 2010 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions
I hope Buck lets some guys play.
I want to see someone other than Wigginton play 1B. He won’t be next year’s 1B anyway, so let’s see Snyder, Reimold, Scott or Fox play 1B. I’ve never thought Snyder has enough power to play there in the majors, but let’s see him play. Also what’s with Millwood still getting starts? Let’s get Vandenhurk (sp?) and Patton out there. Millwood may be pitching better now, but what is the future for him? Certainly not with the Orioles.
we've been over the bat playing a position thing many a time.........
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Sep 10, 2010 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions
well, I don't think
Snyder’s gonna hit enough period to play in the majors (as a starter), and he cna’t really play anywhere else, and first base is – as they say – basically the easiest position to fill, so at least in this case the hit for his position talk is warranted enough.
...a piece of V mail in which everything but the salutation "Dear Mary" had been blocked out and on which the censoring officer had written, "I long for you tragically. R. O. Shipman, Chaplain, U.S. Army."
Also...
I agree in theory with the whole “bat playing at a position” thing being kinda dumb, but the thing is we do need another big bat somewhere, and the easiest place to find that bat (generally) is at 1st base. If we are going to add a big bat from outside the organization, it most likely will be at 1st, meaning unless Snyder can hit with a decent amount of power, he’s likely not to be able to stick at 1st.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
Okay, fielding position aside,
the Orioles need a better hitting cleanup hitter with real power. Wigginton is a good firstbaseman but not a good enough hitter to be batting 3rd or 4th in the AL East. If Bell isn’t the answer at 3B, we need someone there, too. I’m just saying that they need a big time cleanup hitter and 1B is a good place to find one.
what's this "shoulda" stuff? Just sign him in 6 weeks.
Rub some $100 bills on it, you sell-out. -duck
i read somewhere (roch?) that snyder will crack the lineup in detroit
by thewaywardO on Sep 10, 2010 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions
Fix just posted this fan shot
http://www.camdenchat.com/2010/9/10/1680570/yankee-stadium-replaced-pie-with
They are totally biting off of us. And no I won’t accept that lots of people might think of such things.
You can't just walk over us. -Brian Matusz
Pie totally needs to bat .314 at some point
the universe would collapse, but it’d be sweet
...a piece of V mail in which everything but the salutation "Dear Mary" had been blocked out and on which the censoring officer had written, "I long for you tragically. R. O. Shipman, Chaplain, U.S. Army."
all he needs to do...
is start out next season 22 for his first 70.
Why yes, I am a math geek. Why do you ask?
Saw a guy at OPACY
had a Pie jersey with the pi symbol as the number. Wanted one badly.
Has there ever been a cooler Oriole than Eddie Murray? I mean, just straight up cool. Like a bad, suave dude. You know what I'm sayin'. COOL. SC 7/24/08
If Pie ever hit .31416~........,
he would be a worthwhile starter in MLB. As a .280 hitter with good speed (but not enough steals) and a “little” power, he should be our 4th outfielder.
I clipped this yesterday, but it was overlooked....
Buck Has Bittersweet Return to Bronx
A lot of it is about not getting the sweep, but there’s a little detail in there about the whole “moving the guys during BP” thing that the Daily News mentioned.
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
*it's an ESPN article, btw
so very fair and balanced.
/snark
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
I swear, I keep clicking "Everyone" every day when I do the Clippings post
Do me a favor and type in ZKNOWER at the beginning of the headline or something so I won’t miss it. Now, if it’s getting clipped after 6:30 am Eastern, it’s getting missed because I’m already done adding articles.
"That's what I want to see tomorrow. Do we understand what the f--- I want to see tomorrow? Let's go eat a g-d d--n snack."- Rex Ryan
I will, or perhaps shoot you an email
no worries, it’s rare that i have the chance to clip something.
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
Are you just choosing "today" as the timeframe?
I always try to go back one day in case something got clipped at like 1130 pm. You know, when I’m forced to do the morning post.
You can't just walk over us. -Brian Matusz
I choose "Since Yesterday"
"That's what I want to see tomorrow. Do we understand what the f--- I want to see tomorrow? Let's go eat a g-d d--n snack."- Rex Ryan
And oh, yeah, like I stick a gun to your head....
"That's what I want to see tomorrow. Do we understand what the f--- I want to see tomorrow? Let's go eat a g-d d--n snack."- Rex Ryan
It's amazing.
Every time I read something more about Buck, I’m further impressed.
But 15 minutes later [after Wednesday’s post-game interview] Showalter was slumped in a chair, the color drained from his cheeks. The man looked as though he’d just lost Game 5 in the Kingdome all over again.
“I did my homework, and I don’t mean that badly. I thought this was the right fit. People ask why Baltimore, and I’m like, why not? What am I missing?”
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
get a room already.
I've been playing baseball since I was six years old, so that's 40 years I've been on a baseball field and around a baseball field, and so our opinions are formulated through facts, not fiction, not their little chat room jargon.
Another dropping, from Beyond the Box Score:
Bring Him Back? Baltimore’s Potential Non-Tenders
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
We gotta give more people the power to clip stuff....
"That's what I want to see tomorrow. Do we understand what the f--- I want to see tomorrow? Let's go eat a g-d d--n snack."- Rex Ryan
HOCKEY TICKETS IN THE HOUSE!
I’m sad baseball is almost over but that means hockey is almost here! The day the tickets arrive is one of the best days of he year!
Check out more of my highlights at dailymotion.com/gatecitycanes
flagged for an awful and offensive picture
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Sep 10, 2010 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Uh oh, you probably wouldn't ever want to come to my living room then.......
Check out more of my highlights at dailymotion.com/gatecitycanes
ugh my eyes! they're burning.............
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Sep 10, 2010 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd look better if it was Jordan Staal.
/Pens fan.
I'm hurt dog! Don't ask if me if I'm alright, hell naw! We said dominate and we not doing it! I put my heart into this s***, let's go man! - Ed Reed
by BaltimoreSportsFan on Sep 10, 2010 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions
It'd look better if all of the Staal's were getting
hit by a bus.
The stache is back!
by Knubles and Bits on Sep 10, 2010 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Could we perhaps
throw Sid the Kid in front of said bus?
"Give us 10 points and the game is over...And they didn't score on us. Make sure you quote that. They didn't score on our defense."
by organizedchaos52 on Sep 11, 2010 12:50 AM EDT up reply actions
I knew one of the Caps fan would make a comment on that.
I'm hurt dog! Don't ask if me if I'm alright, hell naw! We said dominate and we not doing it! I put my heart into this s***, let's go man! - Ed Reed
by BaltimoreSportsFan on Sep 10, 2010 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions
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