Tuesday Bird Droppings
by duck on Sep 21, 2010 7:02 AM EDT
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PrintRecaps of yesterday's win can be found at Orioles.com, The Sun, The Boston Globe, and MASNsports (with post-game Buck).
Buck Showalter Injecting Discipline Into Young Orioles Squad - Across Enemy Lines - NESN.com
Well, Buck's first game was Aug. 3, not July 29, and a few of my words were changed just so the editor could justify his/her existence, but here's my take for NESN on what's different with the O's.
Orioles Insider: Arrieta may not have surgery after all; Lugo cleared
"Julio Lugo (recurring headaches) was cleared to begin playing again. The club isn't sure he'll make it to Boston in time for (Monday's) series opener, but he will definitely be available (Tuesday)."
What makes for a 'successful' stadium, anyway? - CSMonitor.com
"Stadium deals are notoriously one-sided: Clubs get revenues, governments pay costs. What has Baltimore gained - or lost - from Camden Yards?"
Adam Jones Is Never Room Temperature | FanGraphs Baseball
Adam Jones has had a roller coaster of a season. Like, Loch Ness Monster type of a season. The double screw turns kill me every time.
Steve Melewski: Ryan Adams had a big year at bat for Bowie
"(Ryan) Adams led or tied for the league lead in hits, doubles and extra-base hits and finished tied for 8th in batting average."
AROUND THE LEAGUE
Dugout disruption: Managerial changes could set MLB record - USATODAY.com
"People don't realize what a lonely job this can be," says Showalter, hired in July for his fourth major league managerial stint. "You do everything you can in your power to make it happen, to win, and be there as long as you can. "But I'm not naive anymore. I've learned this is a business. All you've got to do is look around and see what's happening out there."
Dodgers fans: you do NOT want Jamie McCourt owning your team | HardballTalk
"Her testimony today, if true, makes her out to be astoundingly dim for a trained and experienced lawyer, which is what she is. At issue is the big document in which she is alleged to have signed over the Dodgers to Frank. About that: Jamie testified that she doesn't read legal documents. Why? "They're boring," she said. The content "is over her head," she says." Orioles fans, just remember - it could ALWAYS be worse.
Who's the next manager of the Blue Jays? | HardballTalk
Toronto apparently has no freakin' clue who they want to replace Cito Gaston next year.
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Replace Cito? REPLACE CITO?!? Why on earth would you want to do that?!? After all...
I have two shirts that need wearing.
"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.
Weren't they talking about maybe hiring Samuel?
Because i’d be all for that.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
Well, he was called a "key Latino candidate" last month at one pt...
http://www.thestar.com/sports/baseball/article/850190—blue-jays-is-it-time-for-a-latino-manager
But I don’t know where he stands now (if anywhere) Anyway, no objection here. Mazel tov, Juan. But I will miss Advanced Cito Loathing.
"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.
samuel starts
diamond dave comes in relief
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Sep 21, 2010 9:28 AM EDT up reply actions
Seems appropriate
to see ‘Julio Lugo’ and ‘recurring headache’ next to each other
by kba26 on Sep 21, 2010 7:53 AM EDT reply actions 4 recs
Kevin Millwood loves clam chowder?
Look at duck being funny. Also, what’s with “who will be the orioles closer in 2010?” Does he realize there are 12 games left in 2010?
Baltimore doesn't owe New Yorkers a goddamn thing, except for a fucking beatdown. -Eat More Esskay
by Stacey on Sep 21, 2010 8:23 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
I get the feeling
they don’t pay their editors a lot, so they don’t get a lot in return.
For the record, I said I expected Adam Jones to stop hacking at low outside curves. No idea why they decided to change that word. And I said lowest ERA+, not highest ERA. Dumbing it down for those not versed in sabermetrics, I guess.
"I think it just got country over here." -Tim Wilson
how exactly do you confuse "hacking at outside curves"
and “loves clam chowder”
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Sep 21, 2010 9:53 AM EDT up reply actions
They replaced "hacking" with "fishing"
And I totally wrote the clam chowder line.
"I think it just got country over here." -Tim Wilson
oh haha
i was gonna say…pretty hard to confuse.
“you have the right to remain silent. anything you say will be misquoted and then used against you.”
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Sep 21, 2010 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions
Why don't you want Millwood back?
I think he deserves at least as much credit for the of-late pitching resurgence as Buck does.
"There's going to be a general lack of toast in the neighbourhood this morning. Many many bewildered breakfast faces."
as the resident mentor
i believe we owe all of the credit to him
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Sep 21, 2010 9:39 AM EDT up reply actions
OK, a FEW questions
How old is he? (HINT: He’ll be 36 on Christmas Eve)
How much would it cost? (HINT: I’m guessing it will take at least $7M/yr for 2 years to get him back)
Have you looked at the trend of his ERA+, WHIP and HR allowed and HR/9 and BB/9 and K/9 and SO/BB ratio? All of those numbers for this year are among the worst of his career.
I’ll pass on Kevin Millwood.
"I think it just got country over here." -Tim Wilson
you can't just look at a bunch of numbers
and say he won’t be any good next year. now that he’s had a year to adjust and figure out what it takes to be in the AL East (and you’ve seen how much better he’s been over the last month plus), he can really lead this pitching staff. You know, like Rick Sutcliffe did in ’92.
"There's going to be a general lack of toast in the neighbourhood this morning. Many many bewildered breakfast faces."
Says one of the resident stat geeks
I have NO FAITH in Kevin Millwood for 2011. AT ALL.
And as far as going off a month-plus, Larry Sheets ended 1987 on a tear. I thought he’d be AL MVP in ‘88. How’d that work out?
And Rick Sutcliffe had a 4.42 ERA with an 89 ERA+ in 1992. I’d like to think we can do better for our lead mentor than Rick Sutcliffe’s 1992 numbers.
"I think it just got country over here." -Tim Wilson
But how did Mussina turn out?
How much better was he because of Sutcliffe’s presence? Would you give Millwood 7 million dollars in 2011 if it meant that 2012 Arrieta, Tillman, Britton, and Matusz would be that much better? I sure as heck would. And Tillman barely got to be around Millwood all year, so he in particular still has a lot to learn about being a major leaguer.
And I bet he would agree with me, since he plays the actual game and you don’t.
"There's going to be a general lack of toast in the neighbourhood this morning. Many many bewildered breakfast faces."
Wow, that line line was a bit snarky even for your taste, Rob Dibble.
"I think it just got country over here." -Tim Wilson
Ok, that was kind of fun
but in all seriousness Duck, I enjoyed your take for Behind Enemy Lines. And I don’t think the club needs to go find any starting pitching for next year (unless they trade Guthrie, which I am in favor of, if they replace him with Cliff Lee), nor any relief pitching (outside of re-getting Koji, which I am more in favor of than I should be).
"There's going to be a general lack of toast in the neighbourhood this morning. Many many bewildered breakfast faces."
Why in the world do you want to trade Guthrie?
by Wieters Wieners on Sep 21, 2010 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions
If I can switch out Guthire for Cliff Freakin' Lee
I do it every day and twice on Sunday
"I think it just got country over here." -Tim Wilson
Yeah, and if the queen had balls she'd be the king.
How pretell are we gonna swap Guthrie for Lee?
Since that seems far far far far fetched to me, I got the implication he was in favor of moving him.
Unless I’m missing something he was by far our most consistent reliable starter all season and has been a consumate professional around the younger guys. He may not be a #1, but he’s a damn good option to keep around this rotation IMO.
by Wieters Wieners on Sep 21, 2010 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions
oh it's far-fetched
which is kind of the point. In all reasonable cases I’d totally take Guthrie for at least the next half-season.
"There's going to be a general lack of toast in the neighbourhood this morning. Many many bewildered breakfast faces."
The guy has been damn good again....
Already almost 200 IP with a WHIP of 1.19 and a BAA of .248.
Those are pretty sick numbers for someone “in decline”.
by Wieters Wieners on Sep 21, 2010 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm just concerned with
how good he’ll be next year and the year after, and it mostly stems from his K-rate moving south. Which doesn’t make him bad by any stretch. Lots of innings, respectable ERAs, I’ll take that while it lasts. But he obviously doesn’t have the future of our other guys, and obviously isn’t an ace kind of pitcher who ought to be on top of the rotation.
"There's going to be a general lack of toast in the neighbourhood this morning. Many many bewildered breakfast faces."
Strikeouts his past 4 years
2007 – 123
2008 – 120
2009 – 110
2010 – 108 (2 starts left probably)
For only 3M bucks this year he has probably given us one of the greatest bargains in the league. I’m a monster Guthrie fan both in his performance and the way he handles himself. I think he fits this team perfectly being that he is now getting more up in age and can be the type of mentor that Millwood can but alot less washed up.
I mean, we were talking about bringing Millwood back to mentor the young guys while sucking and making 7M a year. To me, GUTS is gonna be 32 next year and can fill that role for cheaper while running circles around Millwood on the mound.
This season would’ve sucked a million times worse if it wasn’t for my man GUTs.
by Wieters Wieners on Sep 21, 2010 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions
i'm with you
GUTS FTW. don’t really care about his “declining K numbers.” unless he strikes out nobody in the next two starts, he’s going going to be back near his 2008 K numbers.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Sep 21, 2010 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions
well, I was kidding around about Millwood
and yeah, again, I like the guy. I’m happy he’s an Oriole. I think he’s solid. I’m merely concerned about his future production, which I don’t think is crazy talk.
"There's going to be a general lack of toast in the neighbourhood this morning. Many many bewildered breakfast faces."
I hope and think he still has 2-3 more good seasons in him.
I’d like to see the Os reward him with a solid deal to keep him here until he retires.
by Wieters Wieners on Sep 21, 2010 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions
I think he'll be good for a little bit yet, too
but let’s not forget how bad he was last year and how mediocre he looked in the first half this year. That’s literally all I’m saying.
"There's going to be a general lack of toast in the neighbourhood this morning. Many many bewildered breakfast faces."
Gotcha
Last year was a depressing year for everyone. But that one year certainly gets diluted when zooming out and checking out his body of work for us.
Like I said, I’d love to see him retire an O. Even if his numbers decline a little over the next couple years, I think he’s a good consistent reliable starter. And as the younger guys get better and more confident, he won’t mind taking his turn later and later in the rotation.
by Wieters Wieners on Sep 21, 2010 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions
Since GUTS has come to BAL
In 4 years:
761 IP
4.09 ERA
Talk about one of the most UNDERRATED pitchers in baseball. All that productivity we’ve gotten from him for peanuts.
How many pitchers have been that productive over the past 4 seasons? Not many.
by Wieters Wieners on Sep 21, 2010 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions
Imagine the ERA with a decen 09 year
That would be a damn good 4 year AL ERA
Bring back Luis Matos.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Sep 21, 2010 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions
I can't tell what to think of Guts.
I like him a lot, don’t get me wrong… have a jersey T-shirt for him and everything. But he’s an interesting case, because he consistently outperforms his peripherals. 2009 is the one exception, and unfortunately, saber-minded types are quick to point to that year as the real Guthrie.
But I don’t think you can dismiss the fact that he’s had three years (‘07, ’08, and ’10) of a 3.75-ish ERA despite a 4.5-ish FIP (and slightly higher xFIP). It’s a reason to be cautious about him, sure, but I really doubt that he’s just been that lucky for well over 500 innings.
One good sign about his peripherals? His walk rate is at a career-low 2.26 BB/9. I am concerned about the ever-dropping K rate, but if he keeps the walk rate that low, he doesn’t need a K/9 of 7+.
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
Gah.
By “you” in “But I don’t think you can dismiss…”, I meant the saber types, not you, WW.
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
Hey, I'm just saying...
if I get to choose between Guthrie and Lee, I’m picking Lee. Doesn’t mean I don’t want Guts around. ’Cause I do.
"I think it just got country over here." -Tim Wilson
i rest on sundays
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Sep 21, 2010 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions
Three reasons
1) I presuppose that we could replace him with someone better.
2) I think he’s in career decline and would like to maximize my return.
3) I don’t think he’s a great pitcher right now, and I am not convinced that he’ll be able to handle the AL East from now on.
"There's going to be a general lack of toast in the neighbourhood this morning. Many many bewildered breakfast faces."
You kinda liked channelling Rob Dibble there for a moment, didn't you?
And thanks for the compliment.
"I think it just got country over here." -Tim Wilson
Yes I did
maybe all of the “old-school” tpye fans and analysts don’t actually think all of those things, but just think it’s fun to push people’s buttons. In Dibble’s case, I’m pretty sure he doesn’t actually think anything except that it’s fun to push buttons.
"There's going to be a general lack of toast in the neighbourhood this morning. Many many bewildered breakfast faces."
It's funny what becomes conventional wisdom
I mean, the questions about Adam Jones and Nick Markakis were puzzling to me. Statistically, Adam Jones is having almost eactly the same season he did last year in the aggregate. Nick Markakis’ average is down slightly and his SLG is down 30 points. It’s pretty obvious what the problem is. Do sports writers even look at stats pages?
And why in the world would anyone look at Kevin Millwood’s numbers and ask why we’d want him back?
"I think it just got country over here." -Tim Wilson
And one more things...
That was the day the team hired Buck Showalter, who is beginning to look like the best manager Baltimore has seen since Earl Weaver.
Davey Johbnson called and said “You forgot about me that quick?”
"I think it just got country over here." -Tim Wilson
Yeah! And the immortal Phil Regan!
oh, wait…I mean Joe Altobelli!
"There's going to be a general lack of toast in the neighbourhood this morning. Many many bewildered breakfast faces."
but, actually?
johnny Oates!
At all hazards, a man must keep up appearances. Dignity, I say. Dignity above all, Governor. Hear, hear!
-Det. William "Bunk" Moreland
by j.q. higgins on Sep 21, 2010 4:26 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
"lead" the staff is another story
i’d take him for another year as a 3-4 starter though. he’ll be somewhat expensive for that role, however. duck has a point with the 7+ million.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Sep 21, 2010 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions
if millwood wants to take a massive pay cut, then i'd keep him around
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Sep 21, 2010 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions
I hate you
ok, not really.
Baltimore doesn't owe New Yorkers a goddamn thing, except for a fucking beatdown. -Eat More Esskay
did you watch Boardwalk Empire yet?
"There's going to be a general lack of toast in the neighbourhood this morning. Many many bewildered breakfast faces."
no not yet
I ended up watching the stupid baseball game instead. Tonight for sure.
Baltimore doesn't owe New Yorkers a goddamn thing, except for a fucking beatdown. -Eat More Esskay
how was it?
Baltimore doesn't owe New Yorkers a goddamn thing, except for a fucking beatdown. -Eat More Esskay
oh man it was gooooooood
I told my girlfriend that it was what I hoped Public Enemies would have been.
"There's going to be a general lack of toast in the neighbourhood this morning. Many many bewildered breakfast faces."
oooh I'm def gonna watch it tonight
I thought about watching it after the game last night but since I was writing the postgame I didn’t want to be distracted from it at all.
Baltimore doesn't owe New Yorkers a goddamn thing, except for a fucking beatdown. -Eat More Esskay
of course
it WAS directed by Martin Scorsese, so you’d be crazy to think it wouldn’t be that great. We’ll see how some lesser director does next week.
"There's going to be a general lack of toast in the neighbourhood this morning. Many many bewildered breakfast faces."
Apparently Scorsese stayed very involved with the shooting
throughout the first season, even if he wasnt officially the director.
It very much feels like a movie right?
It’s obvious they spent a shit ton of money on it.
Rub some $100 bills on it, you sell-out. -duck
yeah, big epic looking stuff
and of course a Michael K Williams sighting (just for a second though) doesn’t hurt.
"There's going to be a general lack of toast in the neighbourhood this morning. Many many bewildered breakfast faces."
Yeah I kept hoping he would make another appearance
obviously I’m sure he will down the road.
Also a TON of shit happened for a first episode…
Rub some $100 bills on it, you sell-out. -duck
Boardwalk Empire is great
It’s really cinema quality stuff. The cast is certainly movie quality, you get Michael Stuhlbarg (Larry Gopnik from ‘A Serious Man’) Michael K. Williams (Omar, duh) and Michael Shannon (Kathy Bates’ son from ‘Revolutionary Road’).
Every decade or so, HBO gives us something really special. For the ’90’s it was ‘Larry Sanders’, for the 2000’s it was ‘The Wire’ and this decade may just be ‘Boardwalk Empire’.
Not that I want to raise your expectations too much.
"Tragedy is what happens to me. Comedy is what happens to you." -Mel Brooks
TWO WORDS
Livan Hernandez. Get it done Andy. The Nats signed him to a 1 year extension but I’m sure Rizzo is open for a trade.
I've been playing baseball since I was six years old, so that's 40 years I've been on a baseball field and around a baseball field, and so our opinions are formulated through facts, not fiction, not their little chat room jargon.
Ostentatious thy name is....
"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." ~ The Dude
I seriously thought about posting that
But figured people were eating breakfast….
"I think it just got country over here." -Tim Wilson
My favorite part
is about how the greatest charity is done anonymously. And then written about on the world’s biggest plaque.
"There's going to be a general lack of toast in the neighbourhood this morning. Many many bewildered breakfast faces."
I get to drive by George
every day on my way to and from work. He’s about a mile from my house. Fortunately his actual memorial is much more tasteful, as far as I can tell (i.e. I cannot see it from the road).
Adam Jones' latest tweet
Sorry I can’t tweet everything cause I have younger ppl following me. So damn lame. Imma grown man. But I understand.
Baltimore doesn't owe New Yorkers a goddamn thing, except for a fucking beatdown. -Eat More Esskay
I wonder if that's related to his wake up tweet the other day.
It's as if every eccentric in the South decided to move north, ran out of gas in Baltimore, and decided to stay. - John Waters
by Eat More Esskay on Sep 21, 2010 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions
or his sex tips retweet yesterday
"There's going to be a general lack of toast in the neighbourhood this morning. Many many bewildered breakfast faces."
Haha.... gentlemen, let your ladies take the ropes.
by Wieters Wieners on Sep 21, 2010 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions
...and now I have Tenacious D stuck in my head forever
"There's going to be a general lack of toast in the neighbourhood this morning. Many many bewildered breakfast faces."
Apparently I missed that one.
It's as if every eccentric in the South decided to move north, ran out of gas in Baltimore, and decided to stay. - John Waters
by Eat More Esskay on Sep 21, 2010 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions
ooh what did that one say?
Baltimore doesn't owe New Yorkers a goddamn thing, except for a fucking beatdown. -Eat More Esskay
So that's what a grown man does?
Tweets everything?
Has there ever been a cooler Oriole than Eddie Murray? I mean, just straight up cool. Like a bad, suave dude. You know what I'm sayin'. COOL. SC 7/24/08
by 33 on Sep 21, 2010 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
in the life according to adam jones, yes...thats exactly it
i’m pretty glad i’m not adam jones. although he does get paid quite a bit more than me…..and his job is much more fun.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Sep 21, 2010 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions
The NESN editor was correct.
The Baltimore Orioles were once again the laughingstock of the American League.
That is, until July 29.
That was the day the team hired Buck Showalter, who is beginning to look like the best manager Baltimore has seen since Earl Weaver.
Buck Showalter was hired July 29. He managed his first game August 3.
And you, a journalist!
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
Technically, we were both right.
Just sayin’
And I haven’t been a journalist since December 1993.
"I think it just got country over here." -Tim Wilson
technically you called him out for something he didn't say.
just sayin’
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
He was hired that day
but i’m pretty sure we were still a laughingstock at that point as well, so it’s half right.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
you think we weren't still a laughingstock on august 3?
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
I didn't say that
we might still be a laughingstock. I mean, 13 straight losing seasons and all…
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
So who watched The Event last night?
The stache is back!
by Knubles and Bits on Sep 21, 2010 12:44 PM EDT reply actions
Its in the queue
The sudden explosion in tv premieres over the past 2 days has me seriously backlogged
which leads to the question, how close to the top of said queue should the Event be?
Was it good enough that i should move it up to the top, or just get to it whenever?
Yes good question
My tv schedule is gonna be jammed until baseball season is over.
Baltimore doesn't owe New Yorkers a goddamn thing, except for a fucking beatdown. -Eat More Esskay
I would put it close to the top.
But it only has a couple of episodes to prove to me that it isn’t going to be a show like Lost. There was a lot of jumping back in forth in time, but I didn’t find it too hard to follow. If they give some answers instead of just piling on more mystery than I think the show has great promise, but they could easily screw it up. Plus the guys girlfriend is the actress who played Shia Labeuf’s love interest in Disturbia and she is hot.
The stache is back!
by Knubles and Bits on Sep 21, 2010 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Man, I hope the O’s let Kevin Millwood walk. If they go into next season with Matusz, Arrieta, Bergesen, Guthrie and Tillman as holdovers, and perhaps add a good starter in FA, they’ve got a shot at a pretty good rotation. The team still lacks a bona fide middle of the order bat, which they probably won’t get. But I can see them edging north of .500. Maybe.
Changing topics, that Red Sox lineup without Ellsbury, PEDroia and Youkilis is putrid. Lotta outs there. Lowell, Varitek and Lowrie as your 7 – 8 – 9 hitters is teh suck.
Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?
Way way OT
Any of the home theater-philes on here have any good recommendations for a 32" inch flat screen? I’m in the market for one and trying to make sense of it all. I love this stuff but I honestly have not kept up with it for a few years. I’ve been looking at some Samsung models, specifically the LN32C450 and 550. Any recommendations?
"Real Orioles don't pout. Real Orioles don't gloat. Real Orioles just win."
I have the 46" Samsung 550
Love it – no complaints at all.
Rub some $100 bills on it, you sell-out. -duck
Im a total Hitachi LCD junkie.
I have a 55" inch Hitachi LCD (dont have the model #) and I’ll probably never buy anything else. Love it….
by Wieters Wieners on Sep 21, 2010 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions
I have an LG at that size which I like a lot.
I got it back in January or February, so it hasn’t been too long since I looked at this stuff. Sounds like it’s hard to go wrong with Samsung TVs these days, though — they seem to come very highly recommended from pretty much every reviewer. If you’re looking at those two TVs, I’d probably suggest getting the 720p one. 32" is, from what I recall, a bit too small to really notice the difference between 720p and 1080p, unless you’re going to use it as a computer monitor as well (which is why I got a 1080p one). $200 seems like too a lot to jump to 1080p if you’re not really going to notice it.
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
Yeah
That’s what I’ve been reading – on small screens 1080p isn’t essential, and it’s even pretty hard to see the difference on a big screen. It seems the bigger difference is contrast ratio. I would like to use it as a computer monitor sometimes – does the text look fuzzy on a 720?
"Real Orioles don't pout. Real Orioles don't gloat. Real Orioles just win."
by NewYorkOriole on Sep 21, 2010 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, I'm running at 1080, so I can't say for sure,
but while it’s definitely not going to be as sharp as a computer monitor, I don’t have any real problems reading text. Of course, if you’re just browsing the internet, you’ll probably need to zoom in on web pages a lot, since you probably won’t be sitting 1.5 feet from the screen.
What are you going to use it for while it’s hooked up to a computer? Just watching videos and such, or gaming, or…?
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
That's true...
I’m not really intending to use it for reading webpages anyway – maybe just for the mlb.tv subscription and the occasional Homeworld deathmatch…
"Real Orioles don't pout. Real Orioles don't gloat. Real Orioles just win."
by NewYorkOriole on Sep 21, 2010 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions
If you're gaming, it probably depends on how powerful your machine is.
If you’ve got a good enough rig that you run (or could run) games at 1680×1050 or 1920×1200, then it might be worth getting a 1080p TV. If you’re at something more like 1280×1024 or 1440×900 (or lower), 720p might be enough.
For MLB.TV, though, 720p should definitely be enough.
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
Yes.
In a TV that size you will not notice the difference between 720 and 1080. Most people will tell you that an LCD over 42’’ and in plasma over 48-50’’ is when you can start to notice.
The stache is back!
by Knubles and Bits on Sep 21, 2010 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions
If you can get a 120 Hz refresh rate instead of a 60 Hz rate, do it
Until 36", you won’t be able to tell the difference between 720p and 1080i, though.
"I think it just got country over here." -Tim Wilson
Ah, yeah, I should've mentioned that -- good call, duck.
My TV is 120 Hz, and it’s surprising how much difference it can make when you turn on the smoothing/anti-judder feature. You may or may not like it, but I think it’s nice to have, at least.
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
That's where most of mybucks went for my last TV
Cam down to a 42" with 60hz or a 40" with 120 hz. I went for the 40". (I have a really small living room and watch TV from about 8-10 feet away)
"I think it just got country over here." -Tim Wilson
I'm really looking forward to facing such a decision in the near future
my tv is about 16" and doesn’t have stereo.
Is this the phenomenom Im starting to notice at some sports bars.
The Greene Turtle in Leesburg got all these new TVs and I hate them. It looks different than every sports bar I’d ever watch. It just scans oddly or something. Its super clear but it feels like its like skipping in front of your eyes or something. Its hard to describe, does anyone know what Im talking about?
by Wieters Wieners on Sep 21, 2010 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions
If it feels like it's skipping,
it’s probably not 120 Hz. 120 Hz smoothes things out a lot, so it should have the opposite effect.
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
Whatever it is, I don't like it.
Its a new thing Ive been noticing on a couple of newer TVs as well.
by Wieters Wieners on Sep 21, 2010 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Also probably not set up properly
Most TVs these days need a bit of tweaking out of the box.
"I think it just got country over here." -Tim Wilson
could be
1080i vs 1080p. i is interlacing which is just a tad slower to build the image on the screen, while p is progressive, building the whole image ahead of time. Usually not that noticeable, but I imagine people do.
Usually not that noticeable, but I imagine people do.
Could be in the same way that only certain people notice the cycling of CF bulbs.
God, I hate those lights
I told my builder if there was a single fluorescent light in our house, I wasn’t signing at settlement. Between the awful light color and the buzz they make in guitar amps, I won’t own one of the things.
"I think it just got country over here." -Tim Wilson
The light color has gotten substantially better
The ones in my apartment are almost identical to incandescent bulbs. Cheap ones are probably still much too cold though. I suppose someone could make bulbs sufficiently shielded to prevent the buzzing, but its not really an issue for me. I like that i’ve been living in this apartment for over two years and have never had to change a light bulb.
Hmmm
Is that why the HD channels on my tiny LCD occasionally look like people’s lips lag behind their voice?
"Real Orioles don't pout. Real Orioles don't gloat. Real Orioles just win."
by NewYorkOriole on Sep 21, 2010 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions
I hate health insurance!
I hate calling to make an appointment at a place I’ve been going for years and they suddenly don’t take my insurance anymore! Jerks! Now I gotta find someone new, what if they’re a weirdo or something.
Baltimore doesn't owe New Yorkers a goddamn thing, except for a fucking beatdown. -Eat More Esskay
what if they’re a weirdo or something
Then you should probably recommend that they start visiting this site.
Perusing the provider list
From what I can tell, every doctor that my insurance covers went to medical school in, like, India, and graduated in 1960. WTF.
Baltimore doesn't owe New Yorkers a goddamn thing, except for a fucking beatdown. -Eat More Esskay
My doctor growing up was Dr. Morjaria
He fits your description, although probably graduated medical school around 1970 or 75. He was a great guy, great doc and I actually still used him as my PCP until about a year ago when he was forced to retire due to cancer.
I wasn't really trying to be disparaging
It’s just that when I’m looking at a list of names on a computer screen and that’s the entire list, it’s hard to know anything. Although I don’t want an old doctor. Or a young doctor. I would like my doctor to be like…45 years old.
Baltimore doesn't owe New Yorkers a goddamn thing, except for a fucking beatdown. -Eat More Esskay
My long-time family doctor...
took on a guy just like you described when he got older and needed help seeing all of his patients, only he was Iranian and educated at Harvard.
It was like finding a $15,000 necklace for $5 at a yard sale. The man was a walking medical encyclopedia and diagnosed my sleep apnea based on one conversation.
Who’s your HMO?
"No one ever went broke underestimating the taste of the American public." - H.L. Mencken
by TerroristFistJab on Sep 21, 2010 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Conventry of DE
I think it kind of sucks.
Baltimore doesn't owe New Yorkers a goddamn thing, except for a fucking beatdown. -Eat More Esskay
Oh, I was expecting...
something like CareFirst or Allied.
I’m on Kiaser now, which is different for me. There are flaws to the “mini hospital” method of medical care, but I’m happy so far.
"No one ever went broke underestimating the taste of the American public." - H.L. Mencken
by TerroristFistJab on Sep 21, 2010 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Edit: Kaiser
"No one ever went broke underestimating the taste of the American public." - H.L. Mencken
by TerroristFistJab on Sep 21, 2010 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions
I might switch during open season because my options right now seem pretty limited
But that’s not until November, I think. I mean I have a million choices, not that I know what any of it means.
What’s the difference with Kaiser? I am totally clueless about this sort of thing.
Baltimore doesn't owe New Yorkers a goddamn thing, except for a fucking beatdown. -Eat More Esskay
If you're Federal (which you are, right?)
it should be November.
Kaiser eschews reimbursing private physicians in favor of having Doctors employed in-house. Kaiser generally will have a network of facilities with varied services. The center in Columbia has a Pharmacy/Lab, Primary Care facilities, Pediatrics, etc. The facility in Woodlawn has all of the above and an OB/GYN, Oncologist, etc.
+’s:
1) One-stop shopping. You can schedule all your appointments in one facility (generally, my wife wanted a female OB/GYN and has to go to Woodlawn for this as Columbia hasn’t hired one yet), get blood drawn and have your prescription filled. Major time-saving can be had. Additionally there are 24 hour facilities available.
2) The website is the shit. It is so mystically simple to use, yet incredible powerful. I can refill presectiptions, e-mail my doctor, review my test results, get information about diagnoses, etc.
-’s:
1) More expensive – my wife is a Federal employee too, and this is one of the “premium” plans.
2) Hours at some facilities (read: the facility closest to you) are small, so a person who commutes from Columbia to DC and back has to ask someone else to pick up any medications for me as the pharmacy closes at 5pm.
"No one ever went broke underestimating the taste of the American public." - H.L. Mencken
by TerroristFistJab on Sep 21, 2010 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions
doesn't sound like a bad plan
Maybe I’ll check it out, although if it’s too pricey I’ll bail. I mean, I know that I have it good healthcare wise but I still hate seeing how much gets taken out of my check each time for it.
Baltimore doesn't owe New Yorkers a goddamn thing, except for a fucking beatdown. -Eat More Esskay
It's worked so far..
she’s been a Kaiser member her entire life, we’ll see how much I like it after the baby is born and they bill us for all kinds of shit.
"No one ever went broke underestimating the taste of the American public." - H.L. Mencken
by TerroristFistJab on Sep 21, 2010 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions
lollygagger
I'm hurt dog! Don't ask if me if I'm alright, hell naw! We said dominate and we not doing it! I put my heart into this s***, let's go man! - Ed Reed
by BaltimoreSportsFan on Sep 21, 2010 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions
still a lollygagger
I'm hurt dog! Don't ask if me if I'm alright, hell naw! We said dominate and we not doing it! I put my heart into this s***, let's go man! - Ed Reed
by BaltimoreSportsFan on Sep 21, 2010 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions
oh I downloaded that!
We should play each other.
Baltimore doesn't owe New Yorkers a goddamn thing, except for a fucking beatdown. -Eat More Esskay
haha...wasnt on facebook yesterday
but for future reference, i’ll def play. i wasn’t working on anything important anyways.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Sep 22, 2010 9:20 AM EDT up reply actions
Does anyone here listen to Stars?
Apparently I’m going to see them in a couple weeks. I’m not really familiar at all, but anyone associated with Broken Social Scene is ok in my book.
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