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Friday Bird Droppings

A Troy Patton sighting was reported on Wednesday. This is one of the few images of the elusive beast ever committed to film.(Photo by Elsa/Getty Images)

No game last night, so I hope you caught some other wonderful entertainment. I don't know what a Justin Beiber is, but it was on CSI last night and was painfully bad at acting.

Orioles Notebook: 2007 draft choices bringing improving returns - baltimoresun.com
And now, in retrospect, that 2007 draft may be the Orioles' best in a decade or more, given that Wieters and Arrieta are considered future building blocks and several more players from that draft are making noise in the minors.

Steve Melewski: A change of plans for Tyler Townsend
Originally I was going to Arizona for the Fall League as a taxi squad player, which means I could only play in one or two games a week. You know, I missed so many at bats this year that they presented the opportunity to go to Australia and get more at bats and more games in. It just seemed like a better opportunity to progress as a player too. Like I said, I missed so many at bats and hopefully this can carry me over to spring training.

School of Roch: Young at heart
Former Orioles outfielder Mike Young is moving back to Baltimore, and he's bringing one of his charitable endeavors with him.

Scott's perseverance paved path to success | orioles.com: News
He contemplated leaving the game altogether. The Orioles brass considered sending him to Triple-A. Fortunately, neither of those things happened. And now with 10 games remaining, Scott has already surpassed his career high in home runs (27), tallied a batting average 28 points higher than what he finished with last season, and cobbled together a consistent 4 1/2-month stretch.

Feature on Orioles minor league infielder Mychal Givens - baltimoresun.com
You can call them setbacks, but I don't look at it that way. It's always a bumpy road. You're going to always have that, but it's just how you're going to come back from it," Mychal Givens said. "I look at it in a positive way, a way to get stronger, and a way to help my team.

Orioles Notebook: 2007 draft choices bringing improving returns - baltimoresun.com
And now, in retrospect, that 2007 draft may be the Orioles' best in a decade or more, given that Wieters and Arrieta are considered future building blocks and several more players from that draft are making noise in the minors.

AROUND THE LEAGUE

‘Best Game Ever’ Broadcast Found in Bing Crosby’s Wine Cellar - NYTimes.com
The singer and actor loved baseball, and had hired a company to make a rare kinescope of Game 7 of the 1960 World Series between the Yankees and the Pirates.

Bryce Harper hitless in unofficial pro debut | HardballTalk
"Nationals top prospect Bryce Harper made his unofficial pro debut earlier today, going 0-for-2 with a pair of strikeouts, reports Alden Gonzalez of MLB.com." Couldn't happen to a nicer guy.

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……thing in the morning and I’m already bored.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Sep 24, 2010 9:18 AM EDT reply actions  

no no no no no

"There's going to be a general lack of toast in the neighbourhood this morning. Many many bewildered breakfast faces."

by Andrew_G on Sep 24, 2010 9:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hey man...

didn’t say “first.” Just pausing to catch my breath before finishing my statement :-)

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Sep 24, 2010 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

I do not consider this okay

"There's going to be a general lack of toast in the neighbourhood this morning. Many many bewildered breakfast faces."

by Andrew_G on Sep 24, 2010 9:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sorry for the breath, boss.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Sep 24, 2010 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'd rather be bored

I’m facing a 90-minute OUTDOOR high school pep rally this afternoon. Forecasted high temperature? 93 degrees. And one administrator on campus, because the other three are out of town.

This afternoon is gonna be FUUUUUUUUN……

"If you tell me a starting pitcher went 15-10, the only thing I can tell you is that he appeared in 25 games that year." - Keith Law

by duck on Sep 24, 2010 9:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hahahaha

I’ll be indoors all day. Unfortunately, all of my “administrators” appear to be here today. Something important must be going on. This will kill my available CC time since my computer is in plain view of the doorway.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Sep 24, 2010 9:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

The team is going to a new office in DC next week anyways...

But I can’t rearrange a shoebox anyways. I just happen to share the desk that faces away from the door. You can really see everybody’s screens from the door.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Sep 24, 2010 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm going to the beach today!

Estimated departure time: 4:00 p.m. This work day is gonna take forever.

You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990

by Stacey on Sep 24, 2010 9:32 AM EDT reply actions  

I finally picked up Civ V last night

I approve. So much has been streamlined and I love the city-states idea. Then I looked up and three hours had gone by.

"There's going to be a general lack of toast in the neighbourhood this morning. Many many bewildered breakfast faces."

by Andrew_G on Sep 24, 2010 9:35 AM EDT reply actions  

I guess I'll have to check out this "Civ V" since y'all seem to be talking about it.

Need to see it for myself.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Sep 24, 2010 9:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Do you need to have the older Civs for this to be any good/play at all?

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Sep 24, 2010 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

nope

I have played Civilizations one and four, and it helps with the learning curve for sure, but its not at all necessary

"There's going to be a general lack of toast in the neighbourhood this morning. Many many bewildered breakfast faces."

by Andrew_G on Sep 24, 2010 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Looks kinda like Age of Empires

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Sep 24, 2010 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

Civ is turned based.

If you can get into that then it is one of the greatest stragety series of all time. If you prefer real-time then I would suggest staying away.

The stache is back!

by Knubles and Bits on Sep 24, 2010 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

A similar game would be the Total War series.

Empire: Total War, Rome: Total War, etc.

The stache is back!

by Knubles and Bits on Sep 24, 2010 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hmm..never played any of those

Used to play lots of AoE.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Sep 24, 2010 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Total War series is great.

I played Rome and Empire.

The stache is back!

by Knubles and Bits on Sep 24, 2010 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ahahaha, excellent.

I’m in the middle of my second game now. I’m definitely liking it a lot, especially the city-states, but I can tell that I’m going to have to adjust my usual strategies. It seems like it’s important to specialize your cities this time around, since buildings seem to take longer to construct than I’m used to.

"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver

by Vuff on Sep 24, 2010 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

The best day I took off work in recent memory

I don’t remember why, but I was off work the day the whole “balloon boy” thing went down. I watched it all unfold live, in real time, on CNN!!!!!!! And then I never watched cable news again.

by PhilR8 on Sep 24, 2010 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

That whole shit was so weird.

I can’t watch CNN any more. They have too many insufferable people who show up any time there is big news, or " big news". Jonathan Sanchez or whoever the hell that guy is has to be the biggest idiot I’ve ever seen on television, and that’s saying something when he has Wolf Blitzer for competition on the same network.

It's as if every eccentric in the South decided to move north, ran out of gas in Baltimore, and decided to stay. - John Waters

by Eat More Esskay on Sep 24, 2010 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

Rick Sanchez?

I think he’s one of those guys who gets outraged at stuff just because he thinks he’s supposed to get outraged at stuff. He’s the kind of guy who would do a good job reading the news, like as a news anchor. But as a host and commentator… pretty awful stuff.

And as far as Wolf Blitzer is concerned – not that Jeopardy! is really a measure of intelligence, but here’s a good image depicting how informed he is:

by PhilR8 on Sep 24, 2010 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

They ask too many old theatre and literature questions on Jeopardy.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Sep 24, 2010 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh haha

Celebrity Jeopardy is awful. I prefer to watch the college one because I can generally get most of the questions correct.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Sep 24, 2010 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh yeah. Rick. Jonathan is the pitcher for SF.

I don’t know, it seems like every time I flip by he’s going nuts about something that someone wrote on Twitter. Not even something newsworthy, but getting excited because someone wrote it TO HIM.

It makes me want to crash the set and go on a rant about how nobody gives a fuck. Any poll or focus group that has suggested that “more Twitter” in that vein is something that cable news needs should be disregarded on the basis of being populated by morons. Probably the kind of moron who thinks it’s exciting to think that OMG THEY POSTED MY TWITTER ON THE SCREEN. I don’t want instant reactions from these people. I already know what they’re thinking, and it’s most likely vapid. It’s certainly not news.

On the subject of Beltway Celebrity Jeopardy, several years ago I was watching and they had Kweisi Mfume on there. This was exciting for me because it meant there was a Baltimore guy I could root for. He got the daily double in some American History category and the answer was something like, “This fort once repulsed the British – oh, say, can you see?” And he either gave the wrong answer or no answer. I forget which. I was pretty bummed and a little disgusted.

It's as if every eccentric in the South decided to move north, ran out of gas in Baltimore, and decided to stay. - John Waters

by Eat More Esskay on Sep 24, 2010 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

Just finished the episode

Andre Royo was excellent, and it appears he’s going to be at least a recurring character

by kba26 on Sep 24, 2010 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

he was also on an episode of Party Down

he drank a flute of piss and was confused for (IIRC) Denzel Washington by a coke-tripping soccer mom.

"There's going to be a general lack of toast in the neighbourhood this morning. Many many bewildered breakfast faces."

by Andrew_G on Sep 24, 2010 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Party down was a show that was really too good

Its a shame; there was no way there were going to be able to hold that cast together on Starz.

by kba26 on Sep 24, 2010 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, no way

I was still bummed to see it disappear. So funny. I’ve been watching Freaks and Geeks (which is totally not as good as I was led to believe, but is still okay) and when I realized that Bill == Roman from Party Down, my mind was totally blown. Also, Lizzy Caplan (who a friend of mine worked on Cloverfield with, and reports that she’s pretty cool) needs to do more stuff.

"There's going to be a general lack of toast in the neighbourhood this morning. Many many bewildered breakfast faces."

by Andrew_G on Sep 24, 2010 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

cool

i know Adam Scott moved over to Parks and Rec (with Rob Lowe!) as well…so it’s hard for me to really get too sad about it.

"There's going to be a general lack of toast in the neighbourhood this morning. Many many bewildered breakfast faces."

by Andrew_G on Sep 24, 2010 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Losing Jane Lynch to Glee after season 1 they could survive

Losing Adam Scott and Lizzy Caplan at the same time? not so much.

by kba26 on Sep 24, 2010 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

When do we start talking about offseason targets?

I know that the season isn’t over yet, but it would be fun to open up the discussion now so that we can watch some of these future birds play.

by PleasantLiving on Sep 24, 2010 11:49 AM EDT reply actions  

it's something I've been thinking about

my general thoughts, broken down by position:

bullpen: either bring back koji or do nothing. There’s enough depth to piece something together, and we need to not waste money on Mike Gonzalez Part II

rotation: I’d leave it alone unless Cliff Lee falls (and he won’t; he’ll be in fucking pinstripes by Thanksgiving).

we have holes, or at least areas for potential upgrade in left, first/DH, short, and third. The default answers are, I guess, Pie/Reimold, Reimold/Scott, Andino, and Bell. I can live with those first two, but not with the second two…but who do you target? Nobody on the market looks appetizing to me, and I don’t have any idea who would be on the shopping block…but something needs to be done.

"There's going to be a general lack of toast in the neighbourhood this morning. Many many bewildered breakfast faces."

by Andrew_G on Sep 24, 2010 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

but who do you target?

That was kind of the genesis of my post. I was looking at ESPN’s list of upcoming free agents, and there wasn’t anyone (especially at 1st/DH and 3rd) that seemed worth the money over who we already have in place.

That being said, are we really going to do nothing this off season? The last thing I want is a new Millwood or Atkins, spending money on essentially nothing, but are these birds good enough without making a splash at all?

by PleasantLiving on Sep 24, 2010 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Do you think Bell is just not ready?

Or do you think he’s never really going to be a real solution?

Rub some $100 bills on it, you sell-out. -duck

by O'sFan21 on Sep 24, 2010 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

I still like him quite a bit

I just don’t think he’s at all ready right now.

"There's going to be a general lack of toast in the neighbourhood this morning. Many many bewildered breakfast faces."

by Andrew_G on Sep 24, 2010 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

ok cool - that's my thinking too

Although I’m really terrified by his K rate. It’s almost unreal.

Rub some $100 bills on it, you sell-out. -duck

by O'sFan21 on Sep 24, 2010 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's pretty embarrassing

but if you threw Manny Machado in the big leagues right now, he’d probably be doing the exact same thing. I think it just takes maturity and polish to not strike out in 2/3 of your PA.

"There's going to be a general lack of toast in the neighbourhood this morning. Many many bewildered breakfast faces."

by Andrew_G on Sep 24, 2010 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol

Am I wrong or does he have the worst bb/k rate in all of baseball +100 PAs?

Rub some $100 bills on it, you sell-out. -duck

by O'sFan21 on Sep 24, 2010 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Among everybody

Bell is tied with Josh Johnson and Joe Blanton (among others) at a robust .04 BB/K.

The worst BB/K among players who qualify for the batting title is Adam Jones at 0.24. The Orioles as a team are 24th in baseball. Oddly though, the Ks don’t really bother me (unless they’re so overwhelming like Bell’s). What really bothers me (of course) is the walk rate, where the Orioles are dead fucking last in baseball.

This is where you’d say Fire Terry Crowley, but I think the problem is bigger than the Crow.

"There's going to be a general lack of toast in the neighbourhood this morning. Many many bewildered breakfast faces."

by Andrew_G on Sep 24, 2010 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

It may be...

but firing The Crow is a great start.

"If you tell me a starting pitcher went 15-10, the only thing I can tell you is that he appeared in 25 games that year." - Keith Law

by duck on Sep 24, 2010 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

digging deeper and coming full circle

the guys who are dragging the team down:

the third basemen (Tejada was the best at 3.5%), Izturis (4.6%), Jones (4.0%) and Felix (4.6%). So, upgrading at third and short and potentially left is the obvious targeted positions.

Just a spitball, but if I were in charge, I might go after Werth, now that I’m thinking about it.

"There's going to be a general lack of toast in the neighbourhood this morning. Many many bewildered breakfast faces."

by Andrew_G on Sep 24, 2010 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was thinking about Werth the other day.

If you do that though, do you then try to trade Pie? or Reimold? Or Jones?

Rub some $100 bills on it, you sell-out. -duck

by O'sFan21 on Sep 24, 2010 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would not have a problem keeping all three

I don’t advocate trading Jones or Reimold at all (unless of course the return is mind-blowingly great).

"There's going to be a general lack of toast in the neighbourhood this morning. Many many bewildered breakfast faces."

by Andrew_G on Sep 24, 2010 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

I guess that wouldn't be the end of the wolrd.

I just hate the idea of having these young guys who MIGHT be good sitting the bench.

Rub some $100 bills on it, you sell-out. -duck

by O'sFan21 on Sep 24, 2010 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

well, you're just talking about Pie

since I’d be DHing Nolan regularly, and if you want to keep playing Pie (which I can totally support) then that’s cool, but you probably don’t want to pick up Werth, and he’s the best free agent upgrade we could reasonably make (although I’m only guessing at his market this winter).

"There's going to be a general lack of toast in the neighbourhood this morning. Many many bewildered breakfast faces."

by Andrew_G on Sep 24, 2010 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

So are you thinking Werth in LF

and Luke at 1B and Nolan DH?

Rub some $100 bills on it, you sell-out. -duck

by O'sFan21 on Sep 24, 2010 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

that's what I would do, yes

"There's going to be a general lack of toast in the neighbourhood this morning. Many many bewildered breakfast faces."

by Andrew_G on Sep 24, 2010 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not too bad I guess.

I’m still not convinced that Nolan is going to be better than Pie at anything, but who knows.

Rub some $100 bills on it, you sell-out. -duck

by O'sFan21 on Sep 24, 2010 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd like to think Reimold has a better bat

Also, can Werth play first?

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Sep 24, 2010 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I doubt it

"There's going to be a general lack of toast in the neighbourhood this morning. Many many bewildered breakfast faces."

by Andrew_G on Sep 24, 2010 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Werth is pretty awesome in the OF

Not sure you’d want to move him.

Rub some $100 bills on it, you sell-out. -duck

by O'sFan21 on Sep 24, 2010 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Werth would be great

but I think it’s a bit unrealistic that we’ll be able to land him.

unless, of course, we used this as blackmail.

by PleasantLiving on Sep 24, 2010 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

The strikeouts are definitely directly related to the lack of walks though.

Hard for hackers to walk.

Rub some $100 bills on it, you sell-out. -duck

by O'sFan21 on Sep 24, 2010 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I disagree

you see tons of three true outcomes guys who walk and K a lot.

Specifically, Jonesy strikes out a lot, but no more than before his walk rate tumbled to an unacceptable level. Izturis has never been a big strike-out victim and neither has Tejada. Pie strikes out but now at ungodly rates.

"There's going to be a general lack of toast in the neighbourhood this morning. Many many bewildered breakfast faces."

by Andrew_G on Sep 24, 2010 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well right, but these guys aren't 3 outcome guys.

That’s the problem. They aren’t taking their K’s as a result of being selective and hitting for power when they do swing (like an Adam Dunn). They are taking their K’s because they swing at anything and everything. They are NEVER going to be 3 outcome guys with that approach.

Rub some $100 bills on it, you sell-out. -duck

by O'sFan21 on Sep 24, 2010 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I didn't say they were

I just said that the general correlation between strikeouts and walks doesn’t exist, and then I also said that I don’t think the specific correlation between these guys striking out and these guys walking exists either.

"There's going to be a general lack of toast in the neighbourhood this morning. Many many bewildered breakfast faces."

by Andrew_G on Sep 24, 2010 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ok I guess we'll just have to disagree.

I agree that there doesn’t HAVE to be a correlation between lots of K’s and low walks, but I think with these guys the relationship is obvious. How can you walk when you swing at all the balls?

Rub some $100 bills on it, you sell-out. -duck

by O'sFan21 on Sep 24, 2010 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

well

we already know that Tejada and Cesar don’t strike out much, and I’m leaving Bell out of the discussion since he’s a special case. And of the guys dragging the team down in the walk rate, we’re left with Jones and Pie.

Jones is never going to be Nick Markakis as far as plate discipline goes, but his K-rate over the years has remained more or less steady (around 21%) but his walk rate has oscillated wildly. So I’m not seeing a correlation between the two. He doesn’t walk because he is a hacker, sure, but he actually strikes out less often than the average player.

Pie, who knows? His stats are in too small of sample sizes, and everything’s kind of all over the place. I have very little idea what kind of a hitter he is. But in 2010 when his walk rate sucks, his strikeout rate is also way down.

Ergo: these guys aren’t not walking because they’re too busy striking out. They aren’t walking because they’re bad at getting walks. And therefore my statement: the strikeouts don’t really bother me.

"There's going to be a general lack of toast in the neighbourhood this morning. Many many bewildered breakfast faces."

by Andrew_G on Sep 24, 2010 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

So you honestly don’t think that if they swung at fewer balls they would strike out less and walk more?

Rub some $100 bills on it, you sell-out. -duck

by O'sFan21 on Sep 24, 2010 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think

they would obviously walk more, but that they wouldn’t strikeout any more or less (independent of other factors).

See: http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/o-swing-correlations/

"There's going to be a general lack of toast in the neighbourhood this morning. Many many bewildered breakfast faces."

by Andrew_G on Sep 24, 2010 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't know

Just doesn’t seem to make much sense.

Rub some $100 bills on it, you sell-out. -duck

by O'sFan21 on Sep 24, 2010 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't buy that

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Sep 24, 2010 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

well, it actually happened

so I don’t know what there is to buy or not buy.

I’d suggest that a guy who stops swinging as much at pitches outside the zone would most likely also stop swinging at some pitches in the zone, too, trying to be more selective, but that’s just a guess.

"There's going to be a general lack of toast in the neighbourhood this morning. Many many bewildered breakfast faces."

by Andrew_G on Sep 24, 2010 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wonder if those trends will be more meaningful over much longer periods of time.

Maybe if they looked at 10 years of swing data the trends might be more logical.

Rub some $100 bills on it, you sell-out. -duck

by O'sFan21 on Sep 24, 2010 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

His example is A.J. Pierzynski

Swings at a lot of pitches that would be balls, but doesn’t strike out much. There are tons of players that swing at pitches that should be balls, but don’t strike out much because they can hit that pitch well. Lots of guys hit low pitches or inside pitches well. Jones constantly swings at the same pitch that he can’t hit (that low outside breaking ball).

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Sep 24, 2010 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

that makes sense to me

but it still doesn’t exaplin why AJ’s K rate and his BB rate have acted independently of each other.

"There's going to be a general lack of toast in the neighbourhood this morning. Many many bewildered breakfast faces."

by Andrew_G on Sep 24, 2010 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

His BB/K ratio has remained fairly constant though

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Sep 24, 2010 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Er...it was similar in 2008 and 2010

Much different in 2009

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Sep 24, 2010 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is where you’d say Fire Terry Crowley, but I think the problem is bigger than the Crow.

It may be bigger than him, but we’ll never know until he’s gone. He certainly isn’t helping the problem.

"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott

by zknower on Sep 24, 2010 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

* embarrassing confession*

I actually really like Andino. I know he’s not what we would consider “good” but for whatever reason, I want him to be good, and keep imagining that he’s only a half step away from being a web-gem regular competing for the silver slugger at short.

I know I’m wrong, but I’m allowed my little piece of crazy, and it feels good to get that off my chest.

by PleasantLiving on Sep 24, 2010 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

its' cool

I bet we all have that embarrassing like of some crappy player. I thought Marty Cordova was pretty great, even though I know that he was whatever the opposite of great is (Garret Atkins?). But there’s no way a team looking to turn the corner says “Robert Andino is our starting shortstop”. There’s just no way.

"There's going to be a general lack of toast in the neighbourhood this morning. Many many bewildered breakfast faces."

by Andrew_G on Sep 24, 2010 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd take Andino over Izturis at SS next year

No way we’ve saved more runs with Izzy’s slighty-below-average glove than he’s cost us with his anemic, below-replacement-player hitting. Andino would have to be an absolute butcher with a glove to costs us more than the difference in hitting would supply.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/leagues/AL/2010-specialpos_ss-fielding.shtml#players_standard_fielding::14

"If you tell me a starting pitcher went 15-10, the only thing I can tell you is that he appeared in 25 games that year." - Keith Law

by duck on Sep 24, 2010 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

WOO HOO

Andino can stay.

At the very least, he’s a much cheaper option than splashing the pot in this offseason while we wait for ManMach

by PleasantLiving on Sep 24, 2010 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like Adam Dunn on a short contract

Move Luke to 1B.

I've been playing baseball since I was six years old, so that's 40 years I've been on a baseball field and around a baseball field, and so our opinions are formulated through facts, not fiction, not their little chat room jargon.

by birdman on Sep 24, 2010 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd be happy with that.

Rub some $100 bills on it, you sell-out. -duck

by O'sFan21 on Sep 24, 2010 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Does anyone like the show Better Off Ted?

I’ve been frittering away my time watching it on netflix. I guess that should be in the past tense because it was canceled. Anyway, I love it.

I'm back. YAY SUMMER!

by DCO'sfan on Sep 24, 2010 11:58 AM EDT reply actions  

Better Off Ted

is, or rather was, a wonderful show

by milkman41 on Sep 24, 2010 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

I had to tell somebody.

I forgot to put silverware in my lunch again today, so I just fashion a fork out of three paper clips with a pair of needle-nose pliers. It actually works pretty well.

I should be a contestant on The Colony.

Those are some Kojiculous sideburns. Son of Sam Horn commenter, 08/31/10

by killertomato on Sep 24, 2010 12:16 PM EDT reply actions  

lol

that’s pretty awesome. I used to bring yogurt a lot for lunch and would forget a spoon 2/3s of the time and it was always fun trying to figure something out.

Rub some $100 bills on it, you sell-out. -duck

by O'sFan21 on Sep 24, 2010 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just buy a boxx of 100 spoons/forks and bring them one day

I’m set for months

"If you tell me a starting pitcher went 15-10, the only thing I can tell you is that he appeared in 25 games that year." - Keith Law

by duck on Sep 24, 2010 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

that takes all the fun out of it!

Rub some $100 bills on it, you sell-out. -duck

by O'sFan21 on Sep 24, 2010 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hate to put plastic in a landfill.

I have four or five real forks and spoons I got at a tag sale that are just for lunch. I don’t care if I lose them, and I think they make my lunch taste better.

Those are some Kojiculous sideburns. Son of Sam Horn commenter, 08/31/10

by killertomato on Sep 24, 2010 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mike Young

I got Mike Young’s autograph when I was a kid! He seemed like a good guy back in his day! Good to see he is doing well and working for the children.

Librarians are hiding something

by dfa on Sep 24, 2010 12:19 PM EDT reply actions  

1960 World Series

The blogger than runs Where Have You Gone, Andy Van Slyke? tweeted that Bing Crosby has now officially made a larger contribution to the Pirates this year than Bobby Crosby.

"The United States is the New York Yankees of countries...powerful and respected until the year 2000." - Homer J. Simpson

by Brotz13 on Sep 24, 2010 12:27 PM EDT reply actions  

And he's correct

"If you tell me a starting pitcher went 15-10, the only thing I can tell you is that he appeared in 25 games that year." - Keith Law

by duck on Sep 24, 2010 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

If memory serves me right

Chuck Thompson called that Series.

"Fairy tales start 'once upon a time...'. Fishing stories start 'now this ain't no bullshit...'."

- Cap'n Phil Harris

by sluggo 2.0 on Sep 25, 2010 9:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

Pulled the trigger on the trade today.

Did a complex 3-way…

At the end of the day, I turned:

Brady, LT and Mike Williams into Randy Moss, Desean Jackson and Sanchez

I was in desperate need of some WR help so yay for me. Looks like Im rolling the dice with Vick and if he fails Sanchez will be my man.

I didnt want to turn it into a big discussion as I know most of you don’t care, but I wanted to follow up and let you know the result.

by Wieters Wieners on Sep 24, 2010 12:47 PM EDT reply actions  

Oh, Brittany, you disappoint
“I’m prepared,” said Scott, who does the same series of early work with Crowley before every game, and pours over video — both of his swing and teammate Felix Pie’s, who calls Scott his role model.

Scott dumps liquid over video?

Spellcheck is not enough; you actually have to proofread—or get an editor.

"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott

by zknower on Sep 24, 2010 12:48 PM EDT reply actions  

I didn't have any idea what a Justin Beiber is either

until last Saturday when I met a writer from Tiger Beat. She filled me in. I feel hip now.

I've been playing baseball since I was six years old, so that's 40 years I've been on a baseball field and around a baseball field, and so our opinions are formulated through facts, not fiction, not their little chat room jargon.

by birdman on Sep 24, 2010 1:07 PM EDT reply actions  

you were already hip!

"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott

by zknower on Sep 24, 2010 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm old, I can't be hip.

I've been playing baseball since I was six years old, so that's 40 years I've been on a baseball field and around a baseball field, and so our opinions are formulated through facts, not fiction, not their little chat room jargon.

by birdman on Sep 24, 2010 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

you could be...

…if you were a superhero hipster.

"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott

by zknower on Sep 24, 2010 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

the hulk really needs a popped collar

I've been playing baseball since I was six years old, so that's 40 years I've been on a baseball field and around a baseball field, and so our opinions are formulated through facts, not fiction, not their little chat room jargon.

by birdman on Sep 24, 2010 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Programming alert

MLB Network is running the 1983 World Series highlight program right now. They are only in Game 2 so you have time to catch the good stuff.

Check out more of my highlights at dailymotion.com/gatecitycanes

by IHeartMASN on Sep 24, 2010 1:21 PM EDT reply actions  

In 6 hours, the EVO 4G will be mine!

I've been playing baseball since I was six years old, so that's 40 years I've been on a baseball field and around a baseball field, and so our opinions are formulated through facts, not fiction, not their little chat room jargon.

by birdman on Sep 24, 2010 1:38 PM EDT reply actions  

yeah, this joke never gets old. i still laugh every time.

I've been playing baseball since I was six years old, so that's 40 years I've been on a baseball field and around a baseball field, and so our opinions are formulated through facts, not fiction, not their little chat room jargon.

by birdman on Sep 24, 2010 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

that's what...

You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990

by Stacey on Sep 24, 2010 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

No....too much effort

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Sep 24, 2010 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

also what she said

You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990

by Stacey on Sep 24, 2010 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

hahahaha

damn….good one.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Sep 24, 2010 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, it is too big.

but i’m going to get the precious anyways. I need a new MP3 player so once I saw that the EVO can hold a 32gb micro SD card, that pushed me over. I just hope I can find a music player app that I like because the default player sucks. I thought about the Epic but it can hold a 16gb card that ruled it out for me.

I've been playing baseball since I was six years old, so that's 40 years I've been on a baseball field and around a baseball field, and so our opinions are formulated through facts, not fiction, not their little chat room jargon.

by birdman on Sep 24, 2010 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Epic CAN'T hold a 16gb card

which is quite surprising, but that’s what cnet.com sez.

I've been playing baseball since I was six years old, so that's 40 years I've been on a baseball field and around a baseball field, and so our opinions are formulated through facts, not fiction, not their little chat room jargon.

by birdman on Sep 24, 2010 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Doesn't the Epic come with a 16gb microsd card?

My GF has the Epic. I was find out when I get home.

by PhilR8 on Sep 24, 2010 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

oops, I mean 16gb is the max.

I've been playing baseball since I was six years old, so that's 40 years I've been on a baseball field and around a baseball field, and so our opinions are formulated through facts, not fiction, not their little chat room jargon.

by birdman on Sep 24, 2010 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

hmmm,
The phone only has 1GB of internal memory, so we would advise the use of microSD cards for storing media. The Epic 4G can take up to 16GB microSD cards.

That’s cnet. Great, now they’re back on even footing now. Which one do you recommend?

I've been playing baseball since I was six years old, so that's 40 years I've been on a baseball field and around a baseball field, and so our opinions are formulated through facts, not fiction, not their little chat room jargon.

by birdman on Sep 24, 2010 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

It all depends on your need I guess

The Epic is a superior phone in almost every way. It has the Super AMOLED screen, which is beautiful and way better than the Evo’s screen. Colors are more saturated and the contrast is better. It’s also faster: it has a better processor than the Evo. The hardware keyboard is also a plus, because you’re not limited to on-screen virtual keyboards. The Evo has a bigger screen, but the two devices are still very similar in size.

My GF came from the Palm Pre and loves the Epic. She says she can’t imagine going back to something like the Pre. I think if I were buying a new phone today, I’d buy the Epic, but Samsung has a bad reputation about supporting their phones long-term… ie if an Android update is released in six months or so, Samsung may not make it available for their phones and HTC most likely would.

by PhilR8 on Sep 24, 2010 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

with all that said

I wouldn’t swap my Evo for an Epic right now. I’m too used to it and it does everything well.

by PhilR8 on Sep 24, 2010 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, the only thing the EVO has over the Epic

is 8 pix camera versus a 5 pix cam but that’s sort of trivial difference since nobody takes serious pictures on a phone anyways. Hmmm, now I’m leaning toward the Epic.

I've been playing baseball since I was six years old, so that's 40 years I've been on a baseball field and around a baseball field, and so our opinions are formulated through facts, not fiction, not their little chat room jargon.

by birdman on Sep 24, 2010 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

The megapixel ratings are a farce

the Evo takes marginal pictures. I don’t know about the Epic but it’s probably similar.

by PhilR8 on Sep 24, 2010 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ah thanks Phil. All of this has been very helpful.

I've been playing baseball since I was six years old, so that's 40 years I've been on a baseball field and around a baseball field, and so our opinions are formulated through facts, not fiction, not their little chat room jargon.

by birdman on Sep 24, 2010 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Buster Olney's Twitter:

FYI: It looks like the Orioles could take a serious run at Victor Martinez in free agency, in a combo 1B-C-DH/leader type of role.

by mlb32001 on Sep 24, 2010 2:40 PM EDT reply actions  

If the Red Sox didn't offer him arbitration, I'd be intrigued

But no way am i willing to give the Red Sox our 2nd round pick, plus an extra compensation pick, for Martinez

by kba26 on Sep 24, 2010 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

barf.
in a combo 1B-C-DH/leader type of role.

OH! IF ONLY WE HAD V-MART TO LEAD US!

"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott

by zknower on Sep 24, 2010 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

I couldn't care less about him as a leader

but i do like the thought of being able to give wieters a day off without running the white flag lineup out there (though its likely not worth the cost)

by kba26 on Sep 24, 2010 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Career slash line: .299/.369/.468

Current salary: $7.7 million. However, this is the last year of a pretty team-friendly deal signed by Cleveland in 2005, so he’ll probably command much more than that on the open market.

It looks like he missed about half the season in 2008 from an injury and was on the DL for about a month this year. He is 31, and a catcher, so history would suggest that his best is happening right now and will soon be past.

I don’t think this is the guy we want to splurge on, regardless of whether it costs us draft picks.

It's as if every eccentric in the South decided to move north, ran out of gas in Baltimore, and decided to stay. - John Waters

by Eat More Esskay on Sep 24, 2010 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

VMart

Career OPS+ of 121, OPS+ in 2010 is 120, good for 21st in AL. He’s a 31 y/o catcher.

I take a pass on him simply because of the draft pick issue combined with the fact that he is likely to struggle on the second half of his next contract.

He is a very good player though. And while I’m not saying he is, it is interesting that he would even consider signing with the Orioles.

Librarians are hiding something

by dfa on Sep 24, 2010 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

It seems like something

that I’m initally “eh” about but then would talk myself into getting really excited over as time wears on. The problem for me is that picking up VMart doesn’t address the two biggest issues for the team this winter at all (third and short).

"There's going to be a general lack of toast in the neighbourhood this morning. Many many bewildered breakfast faces."

by Andrew_G on Sep 24, 2010 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't get all the negativity

Martinez is a big offensive upgrade over Wigginton at 1B and Wigginton’s actually a bit older. If you don’t manage to sign a 3B then you shift Wigginton over to 3B, and then the upgrade becomes Martinez over Bell. Whilst Wigginton isn’t going to win any gold gloves at 3B, Bell’s defense has been atrocious.

by alexw on Sep 24, 2010 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I brought this up as a possibility a while back on CC

I like the idea of being able to switch Vmart, Luke, and Wieters in between DH, 1B, and C. I also think it would be amazing to be able to have your backup C be already on the field, meaning you don’t have to kill a bench spot on a guy like Tater (no offense dude). But yea, he’s getting older and is injury prone, plus he’ll cost a ton. I don’t think i’d hate the move, but I think it’s probably moot as the Red Sox have no starting catcher unless they resign him.

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Sep 24, 2010 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Btw

here’s the original thread

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Sep 24, 2010 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

New CC keeps logging me out.

Anyone else have this problem?

"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott

by zknower on Sep 24, 2010 3:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Haha, I was JUST about to post asking the same thing.

You’re clearly not the only one.

It's as if every eccentric in the South decided to move north, ran out of gas in Baltimore, and decided to stay. - John Waters

by Eat More Esskay on Sep 24, 2010 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was gonna ask the same thing

"If you tell me a starting pitcher went 15-10, the only thing I can tell you is that he appeared in 25 games that year." - Keith Law

by duck on Sep 24, 2010 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yep....does that to me too.

I kinda thought it had something to do with the fact I log in from 3 different computers and my phone.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Sep 24, 2010 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

The tech guys are aware of it

They’re doing some behind the scenes updating and that is happening as a result, but it shouldn’t last much longer.

You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990

by Stacey on Sep 24, 2010 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

hi stacey

have you seen the mlb rumors about the O’s going after v mart ? if so how do you feel about it?. i want you to tell me na no worry’s ……….lol

by RED SOX are #1 in my heart on Sep 24, 2010 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yep

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Sep 24, 2010 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I bought a papaya for the first time today

Was not expecting all those seeds, the inside looked very alien. Not sure i’m really a fan.

by kba26 on Sep 24, 2010 3:19 PM EDT reply actions  

I don't like papayas

they always smell like garlic to me.

"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott

by zknower on Sep 24, 2010 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Did anyone hear about Katy Perry and Sesame Street?

If a four year old is seeing a girl singing and Elmo, said 4 year old notices Katy Perry’s dress and what it’s showing, that 4 year old has some issues.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHROHJlU_Ng

I'm hurt dog! Don't ask if me if I'm alright, hell naw! We said dominate and we not doing it! I put my heart into this s***, let's go man! - Ed Reed

by BaltimoreSportsFan on Sep 24, 2010 4:31 PM EDT reply actions  

You are too young to be ogling Katy Perry

and too old to be watching Sesame Street.

The stache is back!

by Knubles and Bits on Sep 24, 2010 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's 13, right?

That’s her target demo.

"If you tell me a starting pitcher went 15-10, the only thing I can tell you is that he appeared in 25 games that year." - Keith Law

by duck on Sep 24, 2010 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

hello duck

did you see my ? to stacey about v mart? if so how do you feel about it ?

by RED SOX are #1 in my heart on Sep 24, 2010 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think "I kissed a girl and I liked it" is aiming a little higher than 13 year olds.

Or am I getting my female singers confused?

It's as if every eccentric in the South decided to move north, ran out of gas in Baltimore, and decided to stay. - John Waters

by Eat More Esskay on Sep 24, 2010 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

OK so I'm late to comment on this

But I hate Katy Perry so so much. I find her totally offensive.

“It’s not what good girls do.” Shut up Katy Perry. Good girls kiss girls all the time. If you want to sing a song about being a girl who kisses a girl, you can do it without being a fucking asshole about it. See Jill Sobule.

“You change your mind like a girl changes clothes. You PMS like a bitch, I would know.”

Shut up Katy Perry with your disgusting song lyrics that my 13 year old niece sings along , making me want to vom.

You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990

by Stacey on Sep 25, 2010 9:35 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

+1000

You want to know the worst part? I worked at a summer camp with four year olds and they were singing Hot n’ Cold? How sick is that?

I'm back. YAY SUMMER!

by DCO'sfan on Sep 25, 2010 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

And that's why I sang my kids to sleep with Metallica songs

"If you tell me a starting pitcher went 15-10, the only thing I can tell you is that he appeared in 25 games that year." - Keith Law

by duck on Sep 26, 2010 9:42 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

what happened to the witty openings for the open threads?

I miss those. I suggest one below in the event that the mods would like to use it.

The open thread is patient, the open thread is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It is not rude, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. The open thread does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.

I've been playing baseball since I was six years old, so that's 40 years I've been on a baseball field and around a baseball field, and so our opinions are formulated through facts, not fiction, not their little chat room jargon.

by birdman on Sep 24, 2010 6:18 PM EDT reply actions  

I think it was offseason only.

I'm hurt dog! Don't ask if me if I'm alright, hell naw! We said dominate and we not doing it! I put my heart into this s***, let's go man! - Ed Reed

by BaltimoreSportsFan on Sep 24, 2010 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

nope, search open threads, there are plenty in season.

I've been playing baseball since I was six years old, so that's 40 years I've been on a baseball field and around a baseball field, and so our opinions are formulated through facts, not fiction, not their little chat room jargon.

by birdman on Sep 24, 2010 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like those too

I think we burned out on them. After awhile it’s hard to think of new things every day.

You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990

by Stacey on Sep 25, 2010 9:37 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Man, I put these together in 20 minutes before work/church

Not gonna happen once school starts.

"If you tell me a starting pitcher went 15-10, the only thing I can tell you is that he appeared in 25 games that year." - Keith Law

by duck on Sep 26, 2010 9:43 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

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