Monday Bird Droppings
by duck on Sep 27, 2010 6:49 AM EDT
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PrintRecaps from yesterday's game can be found at The Sun, The Toronto Star, and MASNsports (with post-game Buck). (No links from orioles.com today - it wasn't playing nice with my PC.)
Orioles Insider: Looks like Tillman or VandenHurk for a start
"Updating a previous item about the Orioles’ rotation for the remainder of the season, it looks like either Rick VandenHurk or Chris Tillman – not both -- will get one final start."
VandenHurk's first start as Oriole could be his last in 2010 - baltimoresun.com
"Rick VandenHurk's first start as an Oriole didn't go the way he wanted, and it's unclear whether he'll be getting another in 2010."
Is this the offseason O's go after big slugger? - baltimoresun.com
"It's not really a question of what they need. It's a question of who they can get and whether this is the right time to make that big offseason push the fans have been waiting for since Andy MacPhail embarked on his long-term rebuilding program 39 months ago."
Fredericksburg.com - Good News Orioles
"This season's performance by the Baltimore Orioles could provide a landmark study in what it is that transforms a group of talented young men from losers into winners. If their new manager, veteran baseball skipper Buck Showalter, could bottle it, he'd be a billionaire."
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I was thinking today is just one of those days where you wish you could just stay in bed all day
but it appears that everyone else here might have actually followed through on that.
That was basically my yesterday...
watched the entire 4th season of Dexter and ate cold pizza. Good times.
Called in sick
Sinuses suck.
"Walk not down that road, I cannot tell you where it goes. Ask me no more questions - some things you're not meant to know." - The Sword
Should've just done that
Took me 2 hours to get to work this morning. First the train was delayed like 15 minutes due to rain, then some woman allegedly was having a heart attack on the train and we had to sit at a station for 25 minutes while the paramedics came.
Hey man...she was really puttin her heart and soul into the morning commute
I took the freakin early bus (45 mins earlier than I normally go) because I knew the traffic was gonna be awful. Ended up getting here at 820 with one other person (supposed to get here at 830). Hardly anybody else even bothered to show up until almost 930. I thought I missed a memo or something. I really need a vacation….shoulda stayed home today.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Sep 27, 2010 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions
Judging by how unconcerned the paramedica looked
I’m pretty confident she was overreacting. It may have been genuine, but not serious enough to hold up an entire train of people.
Commuting sucks.
That lady was probably looking for an excuse to get off work for a day. I like where her head is at. Sucks for you tho.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Sep 27, 2010 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions
How about Mad Men last night?
No spoilers, just that it was damn good.
"There's going to be a general lack of toast in the neighbourhood this morning. Many many bewildered breakfast faces."
I've also been rewatching Community
since I guess I’m on an Allison Brie kick or something. Also my JMHq+ (League Average Joel McHale Quotient) is through the roof nowadays. I’m surprised at how funny it still is. It’s not Arrested Development or anything, but it’s like really good even the second time through. And I’m not even at the greatest episode of all time (paintball)
"There's going to be a general lack of toast in the neighbourhood this morning. Many many bewildered breakfast faces."
What do you think of Running Wilde?
I thought the premiere was amusing, but that its gonna be crushed under the weight of AD comparisons.
meh
I’m starting to wonder if Hurwitz wasn’t the genius behind AD’s greatness. The animated thing he did with Will Arnett was terribly unfunny and Running Wilde didn’t do much for me. And is it just me, or is David Cross best in small doses?
"There's going to be a general lack of toast in the neighbourhood this morning. Many many bewildered breakfast faces."
The AV Club review of Running Wilde was talking about how to compare this show to AD
and said at some point, you just have to stop trying to figure out what made AD so good. Theres likely no one factor that you can try to replicate. All you can do is accept that for a brief moment everything came together perfectly and turned into an excellent piece of work. Running Wilde can be funny, but not if it tries to be “the next Arrested Development.” RW doesnt seem to get that though, down to a ’I’ve had a huge mistake’ joke.
That's a good point
on the other hand…maybe it was Ron Howard.
"There's going to be a general lack of toast in the neighbourhood this morning. Many many bewildered breakfast faces."
and I can't believe how good of a show Community has turned out to be
I was really unimpressed after the first few episodes and thought it was going to be the weakest part of NBC’s thursday night lineup
Hahaha....have you seen the "pictionary" skit on that show?
this won’t stop until pictionary is banned
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Sep 27, 2010 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions
dang...that wasn't the whole skit
the video for that one got deleted….it was funny tho
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Sep 27, 2010 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions
It's uneven for sure
but the third episode – about the Carpe Diem professor (“I’ll have…..A BIRTHDAY CAKE!”) – had me almost in tears. It was ridiculous. I just wish they could rattle off like ten straight great episodes without falling back into blatant sit-com meta-commentary.
"There's going to be a general lack of toast in the neighbourhood this morning. Many many bewildered breakfast faces."
I think my head started spinning on Thursday
where Abed starting talking about how they were doing the meta thing again. Thats about 3 levels deeper than a terrible show “Mike and Molly” will ever be.
yeah... can't agree more. That episode thursday was one of the best ones.
my fiancee still hates it though
anybody have a good list of lunch spots for penn ave?
federal triange/penn quarter/metro center/gallery place?
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
teaism out next to the naval memorial
that’s my go-to brunch/lunch spots on Saturdays. Never been there during the week though.
"There's going to be a general lack of toast in the neighbourhood this morning. Many many bewildered breakfast faces."
ive heard the reagan building has a nice food court...but i dunno whats actually there
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Sep 27, 2010 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions
how fancy or casual are you looking for?
There’s a good french place right at Federal Triangle, but it’s a little fancy.
There’s also Jaleo there.
If you go to Gallery Place I’m a big fan of PS7’s. There’s also a lot of other little fast places there like Potbelly’s and Nando.
Rub some $100 bills on it, you sell-out. -duck
yea...ive seen the potbelly's
not really a fan tho…..really overpriced. verizon center has a chipotle and the reagan building apparently has subway etc.
nothing fancy really.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Sep 27, 2010 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions
old ebbitt grill
it you want to sit. it’s run by the Clyde’s folks, so it’s solid; there’s a decent Italian deli on new york ave b/w 13th & 12th (or maybe 12th & 11th).
Reagan food court isn’t too bad.
At all hazards, a man must keep up appearances. Dignity, I say. Dignity above all, Governor. Hear, hear!
-Det. William "Bunk" Moreland
by j.q. higgins on Sep 27, 2010 2:44 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
So fantasy football question:
Ray Rice and Demaryius Thomas
for
Andre Johnson and Jonathan Stewart.
Thoughts?
I'd stick with Rice/Thomas
I look for Rice to start being more productive as Cam Camercon probably starts getting chewed up to get back to the running game. I mean, I love Flacco’s new toys (Bolding and Housh) but Raven football is and should be ground and pound. And Jonathan Stewart isn’t worth much. Demaryius Thomas looks great in Demaryius Thomas may turn out to be a bigtime WR too. I’d hold them for a couple weeks and at least try and get more value for the trade.
P.S. My VICK trade paid off brilliantly so far. I flipped Brady and LT and ended up with Moss/Desean. My team dropped 149 points yesterday.
3-0 baby!
by Wieters Wieners on Sep 27, 2010 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions
I played a dude in a draft league this week
That benched Michael Vick for Aaron Rodgers
"Walk not down that road, I cannot tell you where it goes. Ask me no more questions - some things you're not meant to know." - The Sword
by duck on Sep 27, 2010 3:22 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
YIIIIIIIIKES
I traded away Brady and LT this week to start VICK. In return I got (basically) Moss and Desean. All 3 of them had stellar days!
by Wieters Wieners on Sep 27, 2010 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions
That'll be a good play in a few weeks when the dogfighter actually plays a defense
JAX gives up 300+ YPG to QBs
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Sep 27, 2010 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions
And until then we'll just keep collecting WINS and dominating our leagues.
by Wieters Wieners on Sep 27, 2010 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions
so...you'll stop dominating your league by approximately next week
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Sep 27, 2010 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions
False
I couldve started an empty spot at QB and still scored 108
by Wieters Wieners on Sep 27, 2010 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Keep in mind that DeSean Jackson won't have many points if Michael Vick gets shut down
Randy Moss doesn’t have that kinda week every week either.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Sep 27, 2010 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Which side of it are you on?
and it is ppr? Honestly I think it’s a pretty even trade (maybe even if it is ppr). It all depends on how deep you are at RB or WR (depending on which players you are getting). If you have the RB depth, go for it, but I might stick with RR and Thomas if those are your guys. Johnson’s ankle could linger.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
I have Johnson/Stewart
and have almost no depth at Running back. Right now I’m starting Andre Johnson, Reggie Wayne, and Hakeem Nicks at WR and Josepha Addai and Stewart at RB. My 2 Flex positions are filled by Mike Williams (TB), Brandon Jacobs, Todd Heap, Jordan Shipley and Greg Camarillo.
I also have Matt Schuab and Owen Daniels
and am thinking it might be a good idea to divest myself of the Houston Texans a bit.
You almost have to make a trade then
I’d see if you could get a little more from someone else, but you probably wont be able to. It’s a pretty even trade. I’d probably pull the trigger on it. Like I said, Johnson’s ankle scares me a bit more that Ray’s injury right now. RR could miss a game, but Johnson’s ankle could be a weekly problem.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
I'm thinking about asking for Mark Clayton instead of Thomas
but i dunno if i can get him, or if Clayton isnt a mirage.
pass
if you’re getting ray rice and thomas…then go for it.
otherwise, pass. johnson is hurt again and definitely suffered without Schaub playing well. Stewart isn’t getting any carries, plus he’s kinda hurt, plus Carolina sucks, plus Jimmy Clausen got sucker punched in a bar and cried.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Sep 27, 2010 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Just made the offer
The more i think about it, the more I like this trade. If i ever had a chance go get Rice, its right now. His value is gonna be any lower.
he'd/she'd be stupid to take that trade
Stewart is worthless and who knows what’s up with Johnson. If it actually goes through, you’re getting a steal.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Sep 27, 2010 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm not sure Stewart is worthless
I really dont understand why’s getting so few carries right now. I’m worried the workload in Carolina could shift and Stewart will end up being a lot more valuable than I’m anticipating.
He's got a foot injury.
I’ve got him in two leagues (he was supposed to be my RB2 in one league……) and I’ve got him benched. Until he starts getting carries, he’s essentially worthless.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Sep 27, 2010 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Thomas is hurt too apparently....arm injury
As for Stewart, he got hurt in preseason at some point. With the Panthers playing so bad though, DeAngelo is going to get most of the carries.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Sep 27, 2010 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Been watching The Wire.
What a bad ass f’n show. How did I miss this.
that's i how i feel about battlestar galactica.
i saw the first season of the wire. i thought it was good but it didn’t hook me enough to watch subsequent seasons, although i’ll do watch them eventually.
I've been playing baseball since I was six years old, so that's 40 years I've been on a baseball field and around a baseball field, and so our opinions are formulated through facts, not fiction, not their little chat room jargon.
i'm epic! LOVE it.
Probably would have bought the EVO if not for your advice (not that would have been a bad thing). Once I found out that the Epic could handle a 32gb card, the decision became easy. The EVO has a HDMI slot whereas the Epic doesn’t but I’ll never use a HDMI slot anyways.. The Epic is $50 more but it came with a16gb card which makes up the price difference. The battery life has been surprisingly good for a smart phone.
I've been playing baseball since I was six years old, so that's 40 years I've been on a baseball field and around a baseball field, and so our opinions are formulated through facts, not fiction, not their little chat room jargon.
I've never used the hdmi out
I doubt I ever will. I think the Epic supports DLNA which seems similar to hdmi out except it’s wireless. I think newer tvs/etc have it built in so you can view content from your phone on your tv. I actually don’t know all that much about it, but it seems like it is similar to hdmi out except, you know, it’s wireless. Not that I would use that either, but seems more practical that buying a special hdmi cable for a phone.
word
Even with DLNA, I doubt I will even use this function. I can’t imagine a scenario where I’m watching something on my phone at home and then I feel need to view it a my television. I can just that from my notebook with much better results.
I've been playing baseball since I was six years old, so that's 40 years I've been on a baseball field and around a baseball field, and so our opinions are formulated through facts, not fiction, not their little chat room jargon.
Ah, the dreaded vote of confidence strikes again
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5621612
A day after 49ers coach Mike Singletary said Jimmy Raye would be the offensive coordinator for the rest of the season, Raye was fired by San Francisco.
How is Phil Cuzzi...
still allowed to work games involving the New York Yankees?
"No one ever went broke underestimating the taste of the American public." - H.L. Mencken
by TerroristFistJab on Sep 27, 2010 1:43 PM EDT reply actions
the yanks are going to the playoffs no matter what happens
I've been playing baseball since I was six years old, so that's 40 years I've been on a baseball field and around a baseball field, and so our opinions are formulated through facts, not fiction, not their little chat room jargon.
oops major replay fail.
I've been playing baseball since I was six years old, so that's 40 years I've been on a baseball field and around a baseball field, and so our opinions are formulated through facts, not fiction, not their little chat room jargon.
Appropriate, no?
"No one ever went broke underestimating the taste of the American public." - H.L. Mencken
by TerroristFistJab on Sep 27, 2010 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions
So are we kinda hoping the Os get swept this week?
by Wieters Wieners on Sep 27, 2010 1:44 PM EDT reply actions
I'd rather the Yankees keep losing, myself.
But losses to Tampa Bay are among the easiest to swallow… well, except for the opening series this year.
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
hell no
If they Rays win, fine. But I’d rather see the O’s win a series against one of the “best teams in baseball.”
I'd rather see the Yanks lose the division
by Wieters Wieners on Sep 27, 2010 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed.
No matter what you want to say (and even though these last two months the O’s have played inspired baseball), this is a lost season. If we can make the Yankees lose the division by losing ourselves, then I say YES.
I'm back. YAY SUMMER!
what kind of fan wants his team to lose?
"There's going to be a general lack of toast in the neighbourhood this morning. Many many bewildered breakfast faces."
I want my team to lose (I'm a girl, by the way)
If it means the most evil franchise in the history of baseball will lose the division. You really think a few wins matter? Because they don’t, and if that’s what we can look forward to, we might as well cheer for the Yankees to keep losing.
I'm back. YAY SUMMER!
they're going to the playoffs anyways
What do we care if it’s through the wildcard or as division champs? I think we can safely root for our team this week.
I've been playing baseball since I was six years old, so that's 40 years I've been on a baseball field and around a baseball field, and so our opinions are formulated through facts, not fiction, not their little chat room jargon.
No they don't...
Did they change the playoffs rules?
I've been playing baseball since I was six years old, so that's 40 years I've been on a baseball field and around a baseball field, and so our opinions are formulated through facts, not fiction, not their little chat room jargon.
I mean
Don’t get me wrong, I wasnt the guy cheering against the Os 50 games ago just for a draft pick.
But now, I’m so ready to see those assholes lose the division and homefield…
by Wieters Wieners on Sep 27, 2010 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions
didn't mean to be misogynistic
apologies
"There's going to be a general lack of toast in the neighbourhood this morning. Many many bewildered breakfast faces."
I dunno, I'm ready to start hating the Rays
Its time to stop looking at them as a proxy for own potential success and start viewing them as another division rival.
Right on. We have to beat these fuckers eventually. Let's get the frothing hatred and fury started.
It's as if every eccentric in the South decided to move north, ran out of gas in Baltimore, and decided to stay. - John Waters
by Eat More Esskay on Sep 27, 2010 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm sure I'll hate them when the time comes,
but I’ll love to hate them. The Yankees, I just loathe.
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
Seriously. If those low-cost fucks can beat us, then let them beat us.
If they can’t, then fuck them. It’s not my problem that they didn’t win more games up until now.
It's as if every eccentric in the South decided to move north, ran out of gas in Baltimore, and decided to stay. - John Waters
by Eat More Esskay on Sep 27, 2010 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Southwest buying AirTran for 1.4B
So much for cheap fares outta BWI. Maybe they’ll offer the same fares they had at BWI out of DCA.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
Stacey
Any chance to get a fun poll on the gamethread tonight on whether or not Os fans are rooting for Tampa to beat us if it means costing the MOTHERFUCKING Yankees the division.
by Wieters Wieners on Sep 27, 2010 2:18 PM EDT reply actions
Of course if this is a terrible and lame idea I really don't care.
Just curious what percentage of people would love to see them lose the division and homefield over the Os taking a couple worthless games off the Rays.
To me, it has nothing to do with the Rays, its a hatred of the Yanks. I dont like the Rays even a little bit, but compared to those assholes…
by Wieters Wieners on Sep 27, 2010 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions
don't get me wrong
I hate the Yankees more than anything ever. You don’t even know.
But one of the things that I started to worry about when I lived in the YES viewing territory was that I cared more about the Yankees losing than the Orioles winning…and that shit is just totally backwards. Prioritize, son:
1) Orioles win.
2) Yankees lose.
3) Whatever anybody else wants to do, I could give a motherfuck.
"There's going to be a general lack of toast in the neighbourhood this morning. Many many bewildered breakfast faces."
Meh
I’ve faithfully rooted for the Os for 155 games.. if they lose 3 meaningless ones near the end to foil the team I most passionately hate, that won’t make me any less of a fan if I’m not disappointed by it. Thats nowhere near saying my hatred of the Yanks is greater than my love of the Os. The circumstances now are a little different. We got guys playing all over the place that won’t be around next year anyway.
And I don’t hate on Tampa at all.. why the heck would I? They don’t take over our ballpark, I dont have to see their bumper sticks up and down 66 all day…
I’ll just go on record as saying if it takes the Rays beating the Os to knock to cost the Yanks the division and homefield, then I’m ok with it.
by Wieters Wieners on Sep 27, 2010 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions
-to knock-
Take it out…. I musta zoned out.
by Wieters Wieners on Sep 27, 2010 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree UNLESS
it means knocking out the Yanks out of the playoff all together AND it doesn’t allow the Red Sox in the playoffs. Then I don’t mind if the O’s lose I don’t give a shit if the Yanks go in as division champs or WC. They’re in either way.
I've been playing baseball since I was six years old, so that's 40 years I've been on a baseball field and around a baseball field, and so our opinions are formulated through facts, not fiction, not their little chat room jargon.
the Orioles needing to lose to knock out the Yankees
is not a situation I want to find myself in ever.
"There's going to be a general lack of toast in the neighbourhood this morning. Many many bewildered breakfast faces."
I can put up a poll for curiosity's sake.
It’s not like that hurts anybody. If people are offended by it, we can have something to debate in the game thread to keep us entertained if the game is boring.
It's as if every eccentric in the South decided to move north, ran out of gas in Baltimore, and decided to stay. - John Waters
by Eat More Esskay on Sep 27, 2010 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Breaking news from the twitter
Nick Adenhart’s killer has been convicted of murder.
"There's going to be a general lack of toast in the neighbourhood this morning. Many many bewildered breakfast faces."
I actually feel kinda bad
He was from my town (Hagerstown), well Williamsport, but only like 3 miles away from where I grew up. We got in a fight about a year before he passed and a buddy of his got arrested that night for hitting me in the face…
I never liked the kid at all, but I was pretty sad to see him pass so young. It was a terrible thing… Im glad justice was served.
by Wieters Wieners on Sep 27, 2010 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions
It wasn't a big deal
More of just a bunch of drunk guys that starting jaw-jacking after the bars closed downtown and everyone was escorted out by security. Adenhart acted like the cockiest MFer in the entire universe when he was around Hagerstown. He was so dominant in High School so everyone talked about him all the time. Well he went off and got shelled in the minors even though prospects drooled over his fastball. I never thought he was that freaking great. Well he started mouthing off to a couple of my friends who were talking baseball saying “wtf do any of you guys know about baseball” and I was like “cool your jets asshole you’re getting bombed in single” (which he was at the time).
His old high school buddies of course were playing bodyguard for him and got in our face all like “dont talk to Nick like that… dont you talk to Nick…. not another word to Nick”. So I was like “NIIIIIICK, you SUCKKKK” and the one guy just hit me in the face. But he was a total idiot because there were cops in the street monitoring the bars closing.
So as his buddy got cuffed and put in the copy car I just blew him a kiss as they were pulling away.
IT wasnt thaaaaat huge of a deal. I just never liked the kid. But again, it was a terrible thing that happened out there and I don’t wish that on anyone or anyone’s family.
by Wieters Wieners on Sep 27, 2010 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Pretty solid story though.
Did the dude actually get charged with something for the punch?
Rub some $100 bills on it, you sell-out. -duck
NO idea....
Never saw the kid that hit me again…
I would never file assault charges in an instance like that. I’ve seen/broken up/been involved in way more bar fights than I’d like to admit.
I assume he probably just got a slap on the wrist. Maybe a misdemeanor assault charge or something.
It was a sissy hit anyway, I didnt even freaking budge.
by Wieters Wieners on Sep 27, 2010 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions
It's funny
I’ve seen a lot of punches thrown in bars and it really seems like most of them do almost no damage at all, but then every once in a while somebody will just get totally fucked up without the punch looking much different than the others.
Rub some $100 bills on it, you sell-out. -duck
LOL
So true…. Ive only seen probably 2-3 bar fights that have done some real damage. And it was never just one punch.
I worked security at the Linc for 2 years when I lived near Philly for every single Eagles home game. I saw some craziness at that place. A couple times I saw people go out on a stretcher.
Eagles fans are freaking brutal.
by Wieters Wieners on Sep 27, 2010 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions
It's hard to figure though.
For a long time I thought it was about skill – like some guys knowing how to throw a punch of whatever, but now I think it’s mostly just luck. I saw a guy take a full crow hop and connect with a perfect sucker punch on my buddy and all it did was stun him a little bit – no blood, no bruising, no broken bones. And then sometimes somebody will just throw a little jab and it shatters an orbital bone and nose.
And yeah I saw some brutal stuff in philly bars.
Rub some $100 bills on it, you sell-out. -duck
Everyone was on his nuts so much it got pretty annoying.
I remember the first time he pitched against KC I think it was, the BWWs was sooooooo packed out and they had the game on every screen. It was freaking pathetic.
by Wieters Wieners on Sep 27, 2010 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions
I understand it.
I went to HS with a guy who’s in the Giants organization, and I was pretty excited to see him make his ML debut, even though I didn’t know him that well.
Yeah
my girlfriend went to high school with Ray Rice and suddenly all of freaking New Rochelle wants to talk to me about the Ravens, even though they don’t know who this “Falco” guy is.
"There's going to be a general lack of toast in the neighbourhood this morning. Many many bewildered breakfast faces."
Murder seems a bit harsh
Though ultimately it likely doesnt make a huge difference. Even with a manslaughter conviction instead, he was still going away for a long time.
I don't know man
sometimes I feel like murder is harsh in these circumstances, but I really feel like this guy being out on the street is a danger to society, so I think it goes beyond punishment to protecting us all from him.
Rub some $100 bills on it, you sell-out. -duck
Even with a manslaughter conviction, he was still probably going away for 30 years.
I have to think thats long enough for him to be sufficiently rehabilitated.
I don’t know that anybody cares about rehab at this point though.
Rub some $100 bills on it, you sell-out. -duck
And at that point, I have major issues with our justice system
that are probably not worth discussing here.
Rearlly? I care more about protecting people than the criminal's rehab.
Rub some $100 bills on it, you sell-out. -duck
Well, in that case i think they accomplish the same goal
If he’s sufficiently rehab, then he no longer presents the same threat. I thought you were implying that it was more about simply punishing him to make everyone else feel better. When we criminal laws become simply about vengence, then I have issues.
i feel like I've heard Katie Holmes give this speech before
"There's going to be a general lack of toast in the neighbourhood this morning. Many many bewildered breakfast faces."
Are all people capable of being sufficiently rehabbed?
I agree – I have problems with vengeful laws as well.
Rub some $100 bills on it, you sell-out. -duck
I think in this case, theres a good possibiltiy
You’re talking about a kid who did something incredibly stupid, but not malicious. We arent talking about locking up Marlo Stanfield here. Even if he did only serve 18 years, thats almost as long as he’s been alive. If 18 years of alcohol counseling can’t help him not make the same mistake again, then i dont think theres hope for anyone.
Theres also the argument that sending him to prison for any period of time is actually probably going to make him a far worse person than he is now, but thats another issue.
Well...
he did something incredibly stupid after already doing something incredibly stupid and signing court documents saying he’d never do it again in exchange for leniency. It wasn’t a one time thing. The documents he signed after his last DUI made it incredibly clear that he would be charged with murder if anybody died as a result of him drinking and driving going forward. It’s really hard for me to feel much sympathy for him.
Rub some $100 bills on it, you sell-out. -duck
I dunno
he’s going to jail regardless, so that last part gets tossed away automatically. Reading over the case story, Gallo apparently was driving on a suspended license, already had one DUI under his belt, and had signed a form acknowledging that if he drove drunk again and killed someone he could be charged with murder.
I dunno. It’s terrible. The whole thing is terrible. But in general I’m for harsher drunk driving penalties, and in this case in particular I don’t think it’s as easy as “he made a horrible, horrible mistake”.
"There's going to be a general lack of toast in the neighbourhood this morning. Many many bewildered breakfast faces."
Although I will say that he's only 23
but if you read his statements about the night I just wonder if he’ll ever be safe on the streets. He seems to lack all control when it comes to avoiding drinking and then making any decisions once he is drinking.
Rub some $100 bills on it, you sell-out. -duck
If he's 23 and serves something like 18, thats almost as long as he's been alive
God help me if i’m the same person when i’m 40 as I am now.
alcoholism isn't like being a dick when you were a teenager though
Rub some $100 bills on it, you sell-out. -duck
No, but it is treatable
and he likely still has a lot of maturing to do anyway (which likely won’t happen inside prison, but like i said thats another issue.) If its not possible for him to be rehabilitated, it draws into question a lot of other programs that rely on the possibility that someone like him could be.
Yeah
I mean I definitely have mixed feelings on this topic in general. I just don’t have mixed feelings on this particular guy. He’s either a total fucking idiot and he’s a danger to society because of it, or he’s such an out of control drunk that he’s a danger to society. Either way, he was warned and did it again anyway and 3 people are dead. It’s hard for me to think anything other than “He had his chance – fuck him and his rehab.”
Rub some $100 bills on it, you sell-out. -duck
I mean i couldn't care less about him
I hope he gets out, drives drunk again alone and goes straight off a cliff into a deep empy ravine (or into Yankee Stadium). I also dont want to pay to keep people in prison longer than necessary since their already indecently overcrowded and not able to function as they should.
SPOILER ALERT
You probably will be. Maybe a bit more patient. But you’re not suddenly gonna start listening to Celine Dion and watch Masterpiece Theater then if you’re not already doing that now.
And, in my case, about 40 pounds heavier, too. YMMV
"Walk not down that road, I cannot tell you where it goes. Ask me no more questions - some things you're not meant to know." - The Sword
by duck on Sep 27, 2010 3:29 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Sentenced to 30 means he'll serve 18, max
"Walk not down that road, I cannot tell you where it goes. Ask me no more questions - some things you're not meant to know." - The Sword
by duck on Sep 27, 2010 3:01 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Good
That means he’ll likely serve 22 or so.
"Walk not down that road, I cannot tell you where it goes. Ask me no more questions - some things you're not meant to know." - The Sword
by duck on Sep 27, 2010 3:11 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
That's assuming a fair amount of things
good behavior and prosecutors/family that don’t make a point to show up at his parole hearings, etc.
Rub some $100 bills on it, you sell-out. -duck
In most cases, good behavior credits are automatic
Especially in states with prison overcrowding – you have to screw up to not get them. And since it was vehicular, unfortunately, prosecutors will have a harder time showing continuing danger. If he’s 23, he’ll be on the streets by age 50, if not 40.
"Walk not down that road, I cannot tell you where it goes. Ask me no more questions - some things you're not meant to know." - The Sword
by duck on Sep 27, 2010 3:18 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Know what pisses me off?
Some Goddamn fucking 19 year old sack of shit bitch ran over & critically injured a delivery guy because she was driving while texting – and only got a misdemeanor.
"Fairy tales start 'once upon a time...'. Fishing stories start 'now this ain't no bullshit...'."
- Cap'n Phil Harris
Welcome to my world
I love riding my bike, so I consider myself a “cyclist” even though it’s a douchey-sounding title. But whatever. Anyway, there are many, many accounts of cyclists getting run over and killed and the drivers are not prosecuted at all. It’s enough to really get me angry.
Not that it's any more severe than drunk driving, but...
what gets me about driving while texting/non-hands free talking is the narcissism involved.
It’s as though these cretins think the republic will collapse if the world is deprived of their inane gibberish for the amount of time it takes to pull over.
"Fairy tales start 'once upon a time...'. Fishing stories start 'now this ain't no bullshit...'."
- Cap'n Phil Harris
Not prosecuting is inexcusable
but a lot of cyclists put their own lives in danger by ignoring traffic laws themselves. Maryland requires cyclists to drive in a single-file line, as close to the shoulder as is safe.
Our town hosts the Seagull Century next month, and 90% of the riders will ride in packs 3-7 wide. I can’t punt the times I’ve almost hit a cyclist as I was coming around a curve and some guy biking at 5 mph is riding on the yellow line, gabbing with his buddies.
And they curse ME out when I honk. Here’s a thought – obey the law and I won’t use my horn.
"Walk not down that road, I cannot tell you where it goes. Ask me no more questions - some things you're not meant to know." - The Sword
by duck on Sep 27, 2010 4:08 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Yeah I see guys running red lights on bikes all the time too.
Rub some $100 bills on it, you sell-out. -duck
this
a million times this. No offense to anyone, but I can’t stand bikers in the road. They make me way too nervous. Half of them don’t obey any traffic signs and don’t signal for turns or anything. I’m surprised I don’t see more of them hit.
"There's going to be a general lack of toast in the neighbourhood this morning. Many many bewildered breakfast faces."
Yeah they make me nervous too.
It’s also a pain in the ass to park on streets that have bike lanes next to them. Some of the bikers go around you on the left and others go around you on the right, and it seems like no matter what they get pissed that you’re causing them to go outside of their normal little lane.
Rub some $100 bills on it, you sell-out. -duck
I'm not defending those who run red lights and are dicks
But I hope you don’t expect them to ride on the sidewalk. It’s not safe for them to be riding around pedestrians. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve been on the sidewalk, NOT listening to my iPod and a dumbass cyclist comes barreling in behind me (without jingling his/her bell) and I have to jump out of the way. It’s a lose-lose situation. It’s unsafe for them to be on the road if they’re irresponsible, and it’s unsafe for them to be on the sidewalk.
I'm back. YAY SUMMER!
yeah
there’s a walking/biking path along the highway near where I live and it’s absolutely terrifying to walk on it. I don’t know what the answer is, since it’s not at feasible to give each of the three geolocaters their own road.
"There's going to be a general lack of toast in the neighbourhood this morning. Many many bewildered breakfast faces."
Exactly.
The only way to deal with it is to enforce traffic laws for cyclists (if there are any…) but who has the time for that?
I'm back. YAY SUMMER!
enforcement is for suckers
its a proven scientific fact
"There's going to be a general lack of toast in the neighbourhood this morning. Many many bewildered breakfast faces."
A lot of time thats necessary
When I’m biking in the city, I treat red lights as stop signs. Otherwise its harder for me to stay ahead of traffic and cause more problems for the cars around me. The bikers who just blow through lights without looking, though, are just asking to get hit.
I'll be at the Seagull Century
Did it with my dad last year, too. The Seagull is different because it’s a huge organized ride and they have cops directing traffic at some intersections, etc. Basically it’s organized in a way where bikers are encouraged to take over the roads. This year, there are two routes which I guess is an attempt to thin out the herd, so to speak. I think there will be something like 9,000 riders, so it was about time for two routes.
I agree with your attitude toward irresponsible bikers, though. I commute 7 1/2 miles each way to work on my bike (except when it rains, like today) and I follow all traffic laws. I ride as close to the should as practicable (that’s the verbiage in the law) and if it’s not safe for me to ride on the right, I’ll take my lane. This usually only happens on four-lane roads like Osler Drive in Towson and Kelly Ave in Mt Washington. I also have a blinking light front and back. Fixie-riding assholes who run red lights and ride the wrong way on one-way streets get no sympathy from me, especially since it tarnishes my reputation with drivers. I don’t want drivers mad at me – in a confrontation, I will lose. So anytime a biker disobeys the rules, I am annoyed.
But, you know. I still get buzzed by speeding cars, or flipped off, and yelled at, even when I am obeying the rules. And just because someone is breaking the rules of the road doesn’t mean they deserve to get hit, either.
As a homeowner on the SGC route,
I hate that weekend. I’m basically trapped in my house for 6 hours on Saturday.
And I do use my horn, not my fender.
"Walk not down that road, I cannot tell you where it goes. Ask me no more questions - some things you're not meant to know." - The Sword
by duck on Sep 27, 2010 4:51 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
My advice
Lots and lots of tacks and or BBs on the road in front of your house.
Set up lawn chair. Cooler of beer, hilarity ensues.
I despise cyclists. Stay on the sidewalk where there kids toys belong or buy a car like the rest of us.
Exception being the city where the sidewalk is to crowded, then you walk like the rest of humanity.
I'm cool with cyclists
It’s when they’re in packs of 7 across and blocking me from leaving my own neighborhood for hours at a time that I have a problem.
"Walk not down that road, I cannot tell you where it goes. Ask me no more questions - some things you're not meant to know." - The Sword
Maybe they don't want to spend money on a car or pollute the earth?
And as I said above, the sidewalk is dangerous. I live in a suburb of DC, and I can’t tell you how many times I’ve walked home from school and some dumbass cyclist comes barreling in behind me without ringing his/her bell. I have to jump out of the way.
It’s a lose-lose situation. I don’t have a problem with cyclists and if it wasn’t so damn dangerous to ride one in a city I’d probably bike everywhere. Neither I or my family has enough money for a new car (I have my permit).
I'm back. YAY SUMMER!
It's true that the sidewalks are no place for a bicycle
sidewalks are for pedestrians. The road is for everyone else.
It’s also not as dangerous as it seems. Idiots like Blake C up there talk a big game, but no one is really going to go out of their way to hit you, no matter how much boasting they do to their friends. And if you make sure you can be seen, with bright, blinking lights front and back and hi-vis yellow clothing, combined with riding predictably, signaling your turns, and obeying the rules of the road… well, I’ve had very few problems. In fact, the other day a woman passed me and then pulled into her driveway about 500 feet up the road and got out to check her mailbox. As I passed her, she said, “your light is great – it really helps me see you!”
I have a bike and I do ride around the neighborhood often
But I’m too scared to go biking through downtown.
I'm back. YAY SUMMER!
You forgot the last and best part of your day!
Getting arrested and going to jail.
You understand that your attitude is antisocial, right? You’re advocating violence against others because they merely inconvenience you. These are human beings we’re talking about here, with lives and loved ones and hopes and dreams and plans for the future. And just because they choose a different hobby/mode of transportation that you do – and, by extension, because they are DIFFERENT than you – you advocate violence.
Obviously I touched a nerve.
I would never do the whole tacks/bbs things. It was a joke, Humor. picture it in your mind, its like old 3 stooges skits.
I dont particularly believe the cars pollute the earth argument over all but the internet isnt the place for arguments.
I am also the new guy here so I’m not all about to get into a raging debate here. But i really cant see how that was perceived as serious
forgot the most important part
you have my apologies. I didnt intend to rile you up. My words came of wrong
it's okay
I mean, I’m not a rabid bicycling advocate, as much as I would love to see more people on bikes. But I hope you can see how easy it is to view your original comment as insensitive.
Anyway, here are my reasons for biking to work, in order of importance:
1) I enjoy it
2) It saves me money
3) It helps get me in shape
4) It relieves congestion – one less car stuck in traffic
5) It is good for the environment
I mean, I could drive to work, obviously. I did today because I was a wimp and was scared of some drizzle. But most days, it’s one less car gumming up the works around Towson. I’d think most drivers would be happy about that.
Ride on, man
Like I said, I just don’t like them in packs of 35 blocking my street.
"Walk not down that road, I cannot tell you where it goes. Ask me no more questions - some things you're not meant to know." - The Sword
If you're doing the Snow Hill Century
You’ll be less than a mile from my house, blocking my neighborhood. I HATE IT when the use St. Luke’s Road. And they will use the traffic circle in Fruitland, which means even if I go the back way, I still won’t be able to get into town easily. Ugh.
"Walk not down that road, I cannot tell you where it goes. Ask me no more questions - some things you're not meant to know." - The Sword
Maybe you don't believe cars pollute the earth but that's still not an excuse for your comment about cars
Not everyone has the money to buy a new car and believe it or not many people LIKE to bike. That seems like a foreign concept to you. I personally love it, but I don’t want to go biking in a city because bozos honk their horn when we are perfectly allowed to be on the road. I mean, where else to do you expect cyclists to be?
I'm back. YAY SUMMER!
I realize this
I really do. I was always under the impression that when a sidewalk or shoulder is present that is where the bikes were supposed to be. I grew up in areas without either.
I realize my comments were insensitve and theyre were posted in a rush out the door to pick up pizza, a hungry man does strange things.
Again, I apologize
Humour is such a subjective thing
but stick around for a while & you’ll find that not everyone here is a model of propriety. (;-)
"Fairy tales start 'once upon a time...'. Fishing stories start 'now this ain't no bullshit...'."
- Cap'n Phil Harris
Well, a shoulder is a different story
Unless the shoulder is narrow and/or strewn with debris and broken glass, that’s usually where I’ll be. There’s a nice 2-foot shoulder on Lake Ave that’s great, but lots of roads have a raised curb instead of a flat shoulder. Usually that means I’ll either be as far to the right as I deem safe, or I’ll take the lane.
I'm currently reading a Delaware Chancery case that cites to 50 Cent
FN1. “Whip” as used in the name of defendant’s company SponsoredWhips, is a slang term for automobile. See, e.g., 50 Cent, Poor Little Rich, on Get Rich or Die Tryin’ (Shady Records/Aftermath Records/Interscope Records 2003) (“I let me watch talk for me, my whip talk for me, my gat [gun] talk for me, BOW!”)
Whatever happened to "hoopty".
Shame.
by Wieters Wieners on Sep 27, 2010 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions
The best part is the footnote seems to be totally irrelvant to the case
I can’t see any reason why its included besides the judge’s amusement.
Ugh, Dan Shaughnessy
Boston’s impending elimination from October ball can be blamed on a stunning spate of injuries (more than 20 players on the disabled list) and the misfortune of playing in the American League East (the Sox would be competing for first place in the AL West), but anyone who’s been watching knows that the Red Sox have underachieved this year and face critical decisions as they prepare for 2011.
No, Boston. You do not get to play that card.
They'd also have the best record in Nippon Professional Baseball
clearly it’s an injustice that they are forced to play MLB teams.
by PhilR8 on Sep 27, 2010 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
Gonna have to 'rec that one.
"No one ever went broke underestimating the taste of the American public." - H.L. Mencken
by TerroristFistJab on Sep 27, 2010 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Rec'd
I think Papelbon might even be a respectable reliever in NPB, too.
"There's going to be a general lack of toast in the neighbourhood this morning. Many many bewildered breakfast faces."
But he'd still have an ass instead of a face.
It's as if every eccentric in the South decided to move north, ran out of gas in Baltimore, and decided to stay. - John Waters
by Eat More Esskay on Sep 27, 2010 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Ok, so this is probably the last place I should ask this...
but I need some fantasy advice for the CC league (or the 2nd CC league I guess). I need 9.5 points to win tonight. I have one player left and my opponent has none. I wisely moved Jennings to flex just in case this happened, but now I have to make the decision between Jennings and Brandon Jackson. I know, sounds easy, but I’d need 60 yards rec. and a td from Jennings while i’d only need 40 yards rushing and a td from Jackson. Which of those sounds more likely to you guys? Basically 10 rush yards = 1 point while 15 rec yards is a point. 6 points for a td regardless. My mind knows it should be Jennings w/o a doubt, but my gut keeps screaming Jackson. Ideas?
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
Def Jennings in my opinion.... Jackson hasn't thrived in that role very much
Ill be interested to see if Kuhn gets a few more carries tonight as well since he has outperformed Jackson so far (at least in terms of YPC anyway).
But def Jennings
by Wieters Wieners on Sep 27, 2010 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions
That's what I was thinking
I’m leaning Jennings, but Jackson has only been the #1 for a week. I know they are saying it’s a commitee now, but I don’t trust coaches when they speak publically about how they are planning on using their players, and 40 yds + td seems not too tough. Prob Jennings tho.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
Ken Burns new baseball "inning" is one tonight.
I'm hurt dog! Don't ask if me if I'm alright, hell naw! We said dominate and we not doing it! I put my heart into this s***, let's go man! - Ed Reed
by BaltimoreSportsFan on Sep 27, 2010 6:13 PM EDT reply actions
I can't watch a documentary about baseball when there's baseball to watch.
It's as if every eccentric in the South decided to move north, ran out of gas in Baltimore, and decided to stay. - John Waters
by Eat More Esskay on Sep 27, 2010 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions
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