Tuesday Bird Droppings
by Stacey on Sep 28, 2010 7:02 AM EDT
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Recaps! Check out the goods on last night's win from the St. Petersburg Times, Baltimore Sun, and Orioles Hangout.
Orioles Insider: O's taking bids for radio deal
Could the O's be leaving CBS Radio? I guess it won't really affect me either way.
Tampa Bay Rays stars call low attendance at home 'embarrassing' - Big League Stew
David Price and Evan Longoria called last night's attendance, on a night when they could potentially clinch a playoff berth, embarrassing. I have to agree. It's one thing for Brian Roberts to wonder where the O's fans are when the team has been in the toilet for so long. These guys are going to the playoffs.
McAdam: Ten games that doomed the Sox in 2010
Sean McAdam identifies ten games the Red Sox would like to have back this series, including one loss against the "lowly" Orioles. Seriously, sports writers, there are other words. Use a thesaurus.
Defendant in Nick Adenhart death guilty of murder - ESPN Los Angeles
The jury has found the man accused of killing Nick Adenhart and two others guilty of murder.
Playoff Picture
Blue Jays pound Burnett, Yankees
Just like the Rays, the Yankees could have clinched a postseason berth last night with a win. But the Yankees can't win anything these days.
Home-field battle: Rays, Yanks, Twins gunning for best record - Sporting News
The Twins have already clinched, but they're still fighting for the best record in baseball and home field advantage in the ALCS. C'mon, Minnesota! Do it for Ol' Jimmers!
Josh Hamilton getting closer to return for Rangers
Good news for the Texas Rangers, who have clinched the AL West. Josh Hamilton looks like he'll be ready to go for the playoffs when they start next week.
Phour! Phils' NL East dominance continues | MLB.com: News
Roy Halladay pitched his fourth complete game of the season to lead the Phillies over the Nationals 8-0 and clinch their fourth consecutive NL East title. Roy Halladay was so happy, I could watch his interview over and over.
Cardinals refuse to cooperate for the Reds
The Reds didn't play last night, but could have clinched the NL Central with a loss by the St. Louis Cardinals. Unfortunately for the Reds, the Cards were playing the Pirates. They'll have the chance to clinch tonight with a win.
Chicago Cubs vs San Diego Padres Recap - September 27, 2010
With the Giants off last night, the Padres could have moved into a tie with them in first place. They did not, and are now a game behind San Francisco and a half game out of the wild card.
Braves walk off into NL Wild Card lead | MLB.com
The Braves are still doing their best to get Bobby Cox into the playoffs one last time, and their walk off win last night put them ahead of the San Diego Padres in the wild card race.
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Tuned in late
And found a 4-0 lead. Sat down and watched Koji strike out the side.
It’s fun to be an Orioles fan.
Has there ever been a cooler Oriole than Eddie Murray? I mean, just straight up cool. Like a bad, suave dude. You know what I'm sayin'. COOL. SC 7/24/08
There ARE other words
Personally, I’m fond of “resurgent”
(it’s a synonym of “Showalterized” )
Has there ever been a cooler Oriole than Eddie Murray? I mean, just straight up cool. Like a bad, suave dude. You know what I'm sayin'. COOL. SC 7/24/08
I prefer "brackin"
"There's going to be a general lack of toast in the neighbourhood this morning. Many many bewildered breakfast faces."
Now my word of the day
I am going to sound so old, white and pathetic when I say ‘brackin’. I can’t wait to see the expression on someone’s face.
Has there ever been a cooler Oriole than Eddie Murray? I mean, just straight up cool. Like a bad, suave dude. You know what I'm sayin'. COOL. SC 7/24/08
nothing wrong with being old and white
pathetic is another story though.
"There's going to be a general lack of toast in the neighbourhood this morning. Many many bewildered breakfast faces."
Koji/Wieters Caption
I think it was more of the awkward fist pound or high five confusion that turns into paper beats rock fist grab. Dude, why are you holding my fist? See also: people attempting to walk past you on the right, no left, no right, that turns into the cha cha. Even more awkward at the urinal. btw: Philly Passion beat up on the Baltimore Charm 60-6 on Friday. Not good charm, not good at all. That’s my tangent for today. Happy Tuesday!!
re: Radio Deal
Not sure which station I would prefer carrying the O’s broadcasts – 105.7 sounds better, WBAL signal travels further. If you head north and approach the state line, there’s an alt rock 105.7 out of York that kicks in and drowns out The Fan. When I lived up that way, during the drive home from Baltimore there would be a ten-minute period where 105.7 would be a mess with both stations fighting for dominance before I got in range of AM1280 out of Hanover, PA. Meanwhile, WBAL would be strong the entire ride.
yeah
my family lives right on the mason dixon line and simply can’t get the Orioles on the radio. Which totally sucks for them (I myself have the mlb at bat app so I can listen to anything from anywhere, but I picked that up because I was living in upstate New York)
"There's going to be a general lack of toast in the neighbourhood this morning. Many many bewildered breakfast faces."
For me, 105.7 comes in clearly as far as Wilmington, DE.
"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." ~ The Dude
by PBR me ASAP! on Sep 28, 2010 9:09 AM EDT up reply actions
I can't even get it clear north of DC
in the Gaithersburg/Germantown area.
The stache is back!
by Knubles and Bits on Sep 28, 2010 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions
None of them reach northern NJ
I wish I could listen to the Orioles games, but Hackettstown, NJ is simply too far north, I guess. This is definitely Yankee country.
WBAL has the old school nostalgia, but I think I'd miss the clear FM signal after a few years of 105.7.
If WBAL gets the contract, they’d better bring back the cheesy “feel the thrill of baseball on WBAL” spots.
It's as if every eccentric in the South decided to move north, ran out of gas in Baltimore, and decided to stay. - John Waters
by Eat More Esskay on Sep 28, 2010 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions
I remember
On crisp spring/fall nights, and the odd cold summer one, listening to Os broadcasts on AM as I went to sleep. It was probably WBAL right? I know Cal did promos for em as well. That was one hell of a signal that could reach Nova Scotia!
at night, AM signals bounce off the ionosphere and can travel great distances
Thanks, GEOG 101, for teaching me about the magic of skywave propogation.
Pretty fascinating stuff. I love stories like that from distant O's fans.
That’s another thing that’s been lost with the change over to 105.7. There’s benefits that are more tangible, sure, but I guess I’m always susceptible to being swayed by a little sentiment.
It's as if every eccentric in the South decided to move north, ran out of gas in Baltimore, and decided to stay. - John Waters
by Eat More Esskay on Sep 28, 2010 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions
I could also hear radio calls on WBAL in Rochester at night
a touch crackily, but oh how it felt like home to suddenly and mysteriously hear Joe Angel’s voice.
"There's going to be a general lack of toast in the neighbourhood this morning. Many many bewildered breakfast faces."
there was a story a few years back
when the Cardinals switched from AM to FM, and it was along these same lines. Basically, some AM station in St. Louis could be heard all over the midwest at night and created a ton of cardinal fans, or something like that.
Longoria and Price whining about attendance at the Trop...
..will not do them any good. I just moved back to MD from St. Pete, and it’s just not a baseball town. Full of mostly old Yerkees fans and rednecks. They’ll all jump on the playoff bandwagon and dye their hair blue and bring out those obnoxious cowbells, but the fervor dies down real quick.
Also, the economy is a nightmare in much of FL, so bringing your family to a ballgame can be an expensive endeavor out of reach to a lot of folks in an area of near 20% unemployment. We don’t all make a MLB player’s salary. I think their complaints come off as rude and arrogant.
I disagree
if it had happened to the Orioles I’d personally be more than a little dumbfounded, shocked, and maybe even angry. And I’m not one of the players. I can’t imagine any player grows up hoping to play in the playoffs in front of ten thousand fans and one vuvuzaela.
"There's going to be a general lack of toast in the neighbourhood this morning. Many many bewildered breakfast faces."
I'm not saying it's not disappointing...
…but there are plenty of factors that make it not so unexpected. The economy is a big one. Florida is getting hammered by this recession, and while there are plenty of rich folks in the Tampa Bay area, there are way more lower/middle-class folks who may be priced out of a night at the park. I’m not sure how high their TV ratings are to judge how many folks are just staying home and watching.
Second, the Rays have no real history to speak of, so there’s not an established fan base. Compound this with the fact that a large portion of the population in the area come from ‘somewhere else’ and bring their existing loyalties; as is the case with all the old Yerkees and Sux fan retirees from up north. When I lived there from 2006-2010, I didn’t jump on the Rays bandwagon; I stayed an O’s fan.
So there is an explanation for the dearth of attendance, and I think it will take a while for them to turn it around. I’m sure OPACY would be filled to capacity if the O’s were contending, and we’d be shocked if it weren’t, but they have a fairly unique situation down there.
Im with Andrew on this one
I’d be livid. You’d think the town would get behind their team whether or not its a ‘baseball’ town or a ‘football’ town. I’ve heard the tickets to their games are SUPER reasonable anyway so I’d hardly blame the economy for a Dad not taking his boys out to a game and grabbing some $12 tickets to watch what might be the best team in baseball.
by Wieters Wieners on Sep 28, 2010 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions
Again, I'm not saying it's not a crappy situation.
But, there are reasons. I’ve lived there and have seen it first hand. I see a lot more MFY and PHN bumper stickers than Rays stickers. People at work get all fired up when the playoff bandwagon comes to town, but the rest of the year the Rays are almost an afterthought except for a core fanbase of natives and converts which is rather small.
well, they'll be happy when Price is wearing pinstripes
in the #2 spot behind Felix in the MFY rotation.
by Dingbat Charlie on Sep 28, 2010 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe Rays fans are savvy enough to know Brian Matusz was pitching, and thus there's no way they would clinch last night.
It's as if every eccentric in the South decided to move north, ran out of gas in Baltimore, and decided to stay. - John Waters
by Eat More Esskay on Sep 28, 2010 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions
I do agree that whining about it won't do them any good.
It’ll just makes fans even less likely to go.
I've been playing baseball since I was six years old, so that's 40 years I've been on a baseball field and around a baseball field, and so our opinions are formulated through facts, not fiction, not their little chat room jargon.
Dunno man
There are other cities out there that would love an MLB franchise and other teams already in the MLB that would love to have the talent that they’ve got down there in Tampa. Its a major waste if nobody will go watch them play.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Sep 28, 2010 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Agree
They should move…..
Waste of a good product
by Wieters Wieners on Sep 28, 2010 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Sure, other cities would love to have the Rays
I just think Longo and Price whining is counter productive.
I've been playing baseball since I was six years old, so that's 40 years I've been on a baseball field and around a baseball field, and so our opinions are formulated through facts, not fiction, not their little chat room jargon.
I doubt anyone in the Tampa/St. Pete area even noticed
They clearly haven’t noticed the playoff-caliber team playing in their city.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Sep 28, 2010 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah, and that's the problem that Longo and Price are referring to.
I've been playing baseball since I was six years old, so that's 40 years I've been on a baseball field and around a baseball field, and so our opinions are formulated through facts, not fiction, not their little chat room jargon.
If they didn't notice the players before
what would make them notice after they said something?
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Sep 28, 2010 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions
it won't make them notice, that's the problem dudier.
I've been playing baseball since I was six years old, so that's 40 years I've been on a baseball field and around a baseball field, and so our opinions are formulated through facts, not fiction, not their little chat room jargon.
So, I think I'm going to the game on Friday night.
I’m not having much luck with StubHub (needing three tickets, rather than two or four, does not help), and I hate how Ticketmaster insists on giving you the “best available” seats. Does anybody know if you can order more specific seats over the phone, or anything like that? Or do I just suck it up and go with Ticketmaster?
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
If callling is like walking up to the ticket booth
you probably can ask for specific seats. Of this I’m not sure, because I usually just go to the ticket booth during game day and ask for particular seats.
by browsermetrics on Sep 28, 2010 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions
You can get specific seats by phone.
Craigslist often has tickets too.
by wickedwitch on Sep 28, 2010 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Screw sending Bobby Cox out on top
I want to see the Braves miss the playoffs. I’ve thoroughly enjoyed seeing them stumble from the best record in the National League to potentially out of the playoffs, makes up for years where the team wasn’t that good and they still won the NL East. (2004, 2005)
"Tragedy is what happens to me. Comedy is what happens to you." -Mel Brooks
BTW, kind of disappointed that Boston sportswriter only listed one O's game.
They lost to us nine times, after all. Surely, they’d like more than one of those back.
It's as if every eccentric in the South decided to move north, ran out of gas in Baltimore, and decided to stay. - John Waters
by Eat More Esskay on Sep 28, 2010 11:55 AM EDT reply actions
Oh. My. God.
I am more excited for this show than any show ever. If you like zombies, you’ll check it out. However, the books were and continue to be some of the most well written graphic fiction I have ever read, and the series looks amazing regardless if you are a comic book fan, zombie fan, or neither. Oct. 31st. AMC. The Walking Dead.
BTW, if interested (and you should be) the 1st 48-ish issues are collected in the Walking Dead compendium vol. 1. It’s expensive, but it’s amazing.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
I want to be excited about it
A lot of other people are (pretty much everyone on the internet). But two things I can’t get past: 1) what I perceived to be a poorly shot car chase at the beginning of the trailer and 2) this poster:
I guess I initially approached it the wrong way: I was looking at it as a realistic portrayal of a zombie apocalypse instead of a strong, character-driven story that takes place after a zombie apocalypse. So the side of me that wanted realism was screaming, “no one drove on the wrong side of the highway to escape death and destruction? Really?!?” And that side overshadowed the voice that was saying, “it’s just an image meant to evoke a feeling. It’s just boilerplate to complete the setting. If the story, writing, and acting is good, what does it matter?”
So, anyway, I’m going to give it a shot.
Dude, I almost had water squirt out of my nose...
I was laughing so hard at your observation and the very annoyance over the fact that everyone just waited patiently in line in their cars despite the apparent “zombie apocalypse” instead of breaking a traffic law.
But my question would be, isn’t there a barrier there in the median? How were they to get to the other side of the intersection in their vehicles?
by Wieters Wieners on Sep 28, 2010 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions
This is true
I mean, you could easity drive up the wrong way of an exit to get on the other side of the highway, but once you are on, you’re fucked. At least until one of thoe emergency vehicle openings.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
Yeah, I dunno
I would assume some evacuation plan would go into effect where people would be diverted onto the oncoming lanes. Or if it were me, I’d notice that no one was on that side of the road and just go the wrong way down the exit ramp. I doubt I’d be the first, or the only one doing this. Remember the movie Deep Impact? Decent movie, I guess, but towards the end of the movie when everyone is evacuating the VA beaches, cars are headed west using both sides of the highway and it still was gridlock. What I would’ve done if I were creating that poster is I would’ve had cars cramming up both sides of the highway and the horse walking down a grassy center median. Or something like that.
But I’ve decided it’s just a minor niggle, even though it still makes me twitch just looking at that poster.
I like the word niggle
though ive never heard it and think it might be offensive in public.
But yea, it’s promo art. Who knows if they even asked the writer’s or director’s opinion?
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
Have you ready any of the series?
While it doesn’t deal 100% in reality, it does take a heavily “every day problems” approach. But anyway, the writing is fantastic (as is the art, but i’m guessing that won’t translate) and if they do right by the series, it can’t fail too hard.
I’ve been let down before though (I’m looking at you, Mr Romero), so i’m trying to contain my glee. It’s not working so well though.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
I never read the series, other than a cursory flip-through at Borders
I like graphic novels, but I’m scared by series with a zillion issues. I usually stick to TPBs like Watchmen or one-offs like DKR, etc. I’m not a huge zombie guy (as in I don’t devour everything about Zombies) but I’ve read books from Brian Keene and consider the original Dawn of the Dead to be one of the best movies of all time. I know it’s setting the bar kind of high, but if this series captures the vibe of the original Dawn of the Dead, I’ll love it.
I read up through the Governor storyline
it was great, great stuff as far as comics go, but I would expect a tv show to hopefully branch off and be its own thing. You know, use the medium and its different scales and also adapt as they discover which characters/actors work and which don’t and so on.
I’m super excited for it.
"There's going to be a general lack of toast in the neighbourhood this morning. Many many bewildered breakfast faces."
I'm hearing
the plan is for the 1st season to be the 1st book. Now I don’t know for sure if they mean the 1st tpb (1st 5 issues) or the 1st hardcover (1st 12 issues), but this might take a while. They said they want to show going as long as the series is alive. Sounds like they are gonna follow the story pretty closely.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
I've been buying the TPBs
Just finished book 12 (issues 67-72) about a month ago, and book 13 is coming out in November sometime. It’s one of those that I want to subscribe to, but I also don’t want to wait a month for the next story, so I wait 5 months and get 5-6 stories. Actually, that makes even less sense unless it’s in the keep the books in good shape thing.
this. is. AMAZING.
did you ever read World War Z or the Zombie Survival Guide? awesome stuff there too.
"double rainbow...what does it MEAN?"
by danielreese05 on Sep 28, 2010 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes and yes
and the Zobie survival guide graphic novel as well, which was quite good (but no “Walking Dead”)
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
walking dead is great
like he said, one of the greatest works of graphic fictions ever. the writing is just out of this world. i highly recommend checking it out.
"double rainbow...what does it MEAN?"
by danielreese05 on Sep 28, 2010 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Did anyone notice
That Jake Arrieta was wearing silly bandz last night?
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
by Stacey on Sep 28, 2010 12:20 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Epic.
I'm hurt dog! Don't ask if me if I'm alright, hell naw! We said dominate and we not doing it! I put my heart into this s***, let's go man! - Ed Reed
by BaltimoreSportsFan on Sep 28, 2010 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions
I got into silly bandz while working at a summer camp
I’m now the proud owner for 53 silly bandz.
I'm back. YAY SUMMER!
I thought they were weird
I got a few, wore them for a little while, now I wear them from time to time. I hate people that’ll wear like 30 bandz at once.
I'm hurt dog! Don't ask if me if I'm alright, hell naw! We said dominate and we not doing it! I put my heart into this s***, let's go man! - Ed Reed
by BaltimoreSportsFan on Sep 28, 2010 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Well the whole trading thing was really fun
Especially when you’re working with four year olds and it’s very easy to manipulate them. Meaning, I can dictate what the cool silly bandz are vs. their lame ones or vice versa and I can get awesome silly bandz!
I'm back. YAY SUMMER!
I did not know silly bandz were popular all the way through HS
Interesting. You know they make NFL and MLB ones now too? Saw em at Modells. You could have an Orioles silly band.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
my school makes some for our logos
it’s a little weird to tell you the truth
"double rainbow...what does it MEAN?"
by danielreese05 on Sep 28, 2010 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions
David Price and Evan Longoria called last night’s attendance, on a night when they could potentially clinch a playoff berth, embarrassing. I have to agree. It’s one thing for Brian Roberts to wonder where the O’s fans are when the team has been in the toilet for so long. These guys are going to the playoffs.
Jim Duquette and Kevin Kennedy were talking about this on XM radio the other day. The remote location of the Trop is a common excuse among Ray fans. The Trop is located in St. Pete which is a “40 minute” from many locations in Tampa. Poor babies. Heaven forbid they have to drive 40 minutes to support their team. For the SoCal teams, a 40 minute is pretty much the norm for a lot of the fans, but plenty of them support the Angels and Dodgers if their team is hunting a playoff spot.
I've been playing baseball since I was six years old, so that's 40 years I've been on a baseball field and around a baseball field, and so our opinions are formulated through facts, not fiction, not their little chat room jargon.
Yeah, that's a lame excuse.
St. Pete is an easy drive for most of the Tampa area except for the most remote suburbs. Probably a million people live within a 45min drive; they should be able to get enough to fill the Trop.
It's also a horrible horrible stadium though.
Maybe the worst in baseball.
Rub some $100 bills on it, you sell-out. -duck
It has all the warmth and charm of a nursing home...
…perfect fit for Pinellas County, AKA God’s Waiting Room.
True, but if the O's played at the Trop, you can bet your ass I'll be there.
I've been playing baseball since I was six years old, so that's 40 years I've been on a baseball field and around a baseball field, and so our opinions are formulated through facts, not fiction, not their little chat room jargon.
they played there last night
where were you?
"There's going to be a general lack of toast in the neighbourhood this morning. Many many bewildered breakfast faces."
i was the guy banging on the cow bell with blue hair.
I've been playing baseball since I was six years old, so that's 40 years I've been on a baseball field and around a baseball field, and so our opinions are formulated through facts, not fiction, not their little chat room jargon.
Im flying to Tampa Bay Friday night for a 3-day MANtrip
Anyone been there recently? Is there anything much to do?
Seminole Hard Rock Casino will probably be our Home Base most of the time.
by Wieters Wieners on Sep 28, 2010 12:50 PM EDT reply actions
Here's my list:
Go to Brocato’s or The Floridian and get a Cuban sandwich.
Go to Tampa Bay Brewing in Ybor City and drink beer. Party in Ybor after dark if you’re feeling adventurous.
Go to the International Mall, get lunch outside, and look at the wimmin.
Go to Caddy’s at the beach, drink beer, look at the wimmin.
Go to the USF football game at Raymond James on Saturday.
I went to Halladay's gem last night
Pretty fucking awesome. Also it was a serious home game for the Phils – seemed like 80-20.
Rub some $100 bills on it, you sell-out. -duck
that's too bad about the attendance
but I’m pretty happy for Halladay
"There's going to be a general lack of toast in the neighbourhood this morning. Many many bewildered breakfast faces."
I couldn't decide whether I cared about the attendance during the game.
The Nats played like absolute garbage (including once of the worst plays I’ve ever seen by Dunn). I was happy for Halladay too – it was a fucking dominant performance. If it wasn’t for the Nats total incompetence it could have been a lightening quick game.
Rub some $100 bills on it, you sell-out. -duck
This rain needs to go away so I can get work done
I’m completely unproductive when its this gross outside.
Aren't you unproductive when the weather is too nice also?
It's as if every eccentric in the South decided to move north, ran out of gas in Baltimore, and decided to stay. - John Waters
by Eat More Esskay on Sep 28, 2010 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions
i'm unproductive no matter what the weather is
unless you count drinking beer and watching football/baseball/other sports as being productive
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Sep 28, 2010 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Steve Melewski:
If the Tampa Bay Rays win to wrap up a playoff berth, but no one is there to see it, did they really clinch?
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
Roch:
Koji Uehara has struck out 39 batters without allowing a walk in his last 29 appearances over 31 innings. It’s the best stretch of strikeouts without a walk in the AL since Pedro Martinez fanned 49 batters in 2000. The Padres’ Luke Gregerson had a streak of 41 earlier this season in the National League.
That, friends, is absurd.
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
The Bergy stats in that same story are crazy, too
Brad Bergesen has posted a 2.31 ERA in his last 10 starts covering 70 innings, and he’s left nine of those games with a lead or the scored tied.
Bergesen has allowed three runs or fewer in nine of his last 10 starts and has worked at least seven innings in six of them. He’s also won his last three decisions on the road, and seven of his 12 outings away from home have been quality starts, including the last five.
In his last five road starts, Bergesen is 3-0 with a 1.49 ERA over 36 1/3 innings.
http://www.masnsports.com/school_of_roch/2010/09/more-about-bergy.html
"Walk not down that road, I cannot tell you where it goes. Ask me no more questions - some things you're not meant to know." - The Sword
I am so, so glad he's been doing better.
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
i don't have a ton of faith for him to stick with it though
but maybe that’s just leftover morose feelings from seeing how inept he was for the first two thirds of the season.
"There's going to be a general lack of toast in the neighbourhood this morning. Many many bewildered breakfast faces."
He's gonna be a great #4 starter
I’ve never lost faith in that.
"Walk not down that road, I cannot tell you where it goes. Ask me no more questions - some things you're not meant to know." - The Sword
he was too bad to be that bad
There was no way he could go from what he did last year to the crap he was dealing in the beginning of this year. Since Buck, he greatly exceeded my improvement expectations. I agree with duck, a back of the rotation guy that will not get much attention but still give the team a chance to win when he pitches.
yeah
I’ll definitely take a solidish back-end dude…but there is just a nagging feeling everytime he pitches that he’s simply built a house of cards on a moving train. I guess I’m just saying that I won’t be surprised if he reverts back to bad bergy and goes the way of Daniel Cabrera.
"There's going to be a general lack of toast in the neighbourhood this morning. Many many bewildered breakfast faces."
Don't you feel less like that now that he's throwing 93?
I definitely felt like that every time he pitched (even last year) when it was 89-90, but shit he throws strikes and keeps it low and at 93 that’s pretty solid.
Rub some $100 bills on it, you sell-out. -duck
I dunno
I guess so, but…well, it just doesn’t feel right is all. It’s a gut thing. My brain definitely agrees though: this new Bergesen is a big improvement. If he can stay healthy…which is a terrific point, twisted. Guys aren’t supposed to pick up velocity like that.
"There's going to be a general lack of toast in the neighbourhood this morning. Many many bewildered breakfast faces."
Oh I agree completely that it doesn't feel right.
Every time I see him pop 94 I wonder about the gun, but it keeps happening over and over again. I really don’t get it.
Rub some $100 bills on it, you sell-out. -duck
if I were a national writer for, say, a San Francisco paper
I’d accuse Bergy of using steroids. Since that’s like, totally okay to do when a guy has an sudden seemingly outlying performance.
"There's going to be a general lack of toast in the neighbourhood this morning. Many many bewildered breakfast faces."
Even bad Bergy won't quite go the way of Daniel Cabrera.
Bergy still has command even when he’s off, generally speaking. There are never going to be any 10-walk, 10-strikeout Bergy games.
But when he’s bad he is a 5+ ERA pitcher and that’s not so good. I do think the Bergy we’re seeing now can give us something in the range of a 4.50 and eat some innings, and that’d be OK with me.
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by Eat More Esskay on Sep 28, 2010 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions
well, I just mean that he'll end up in the minor league system
of an NL West team, where all old Orioles go to die and born again.
"There's going to be a general lack of toast in the neighbourhood this morning. Many many bewildered breakfast faces."
Haha.
Seriously… Melmo homered off Rodrigo Lopez. What the hell?
It's as if every eccentric in the South decided to move north, ran out of gas in Baltimore, and decided to stay. - John Waters
by Eat More Esskay on Sep 28, 2010 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Or quite possibly Toronto
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by twistedlogic on Sep 28, 2010 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Actually, I think Koji will age well
He doesn’t rely on heat. He’s mostly a location and good movement stuff guy. I really hope we sign him to an extension to close.
I've been playing baseball since I was six years old, so that's 40 years I've been on a baseball field and around a baseball field, and so our opinions are formulated through facts, not fiction, not their little chat room jargon.
I'd offer arb
and be satisfied either way he decides to go. I like Koji a lot, but hey, I liked BJ Ryan A LOT and I got over it. They’re relievers; they live the life of a backstabbing vagrant.
"There's going to be a general lack of toast in the neighbourhood this morning. Many many bewildered breakfast faces."
He's making $5.3 this year
You figure he’ll make $7M via arb. That’s a bit high for a closer. I would rather sign him for 2 years, $9M.
I've been playing baseball since I was six years old, so that's 40 years I've been on a baseball field and around a baseball field, and so our opinions are formulated through facts, not fiction, not their little chat room jargon.
that's a pretty big raise to assume
"There's going to be a general lack of toast in the neighbourhood this morning. Many many bewildered breakfast faces."
$1.7M raise? For some who performs well, that's pretty standard.
I mean look at Papelbon’s or Soriano’s raises under arbitration. Of course, Koji is a third year player… I imagine the O’s can’t just renew his contract like a normal third year. I’m guessing he’s eligible for arbitration as if he was a free agent.
I've been playing baseball since I was six years old, so that's 40 years I've been on a baseball field and around a baseball field, and so our opinions are formulated through facts, not fiction, not their little chat room jargon.
I wrote him off when I thought he could only throw 89-90
If the 93-94 shit is for real I’ll happily jump back on that bandwagon.
Rub some $100 bills on it, you sell-out. -duck
I'm mildly worried he's going to get hurt trying to throw 93-94
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by twistedlogic on Sep 28, 2010 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Eh whatever.
Would you prefer the ineffective 89-90 guy, but healthy?
Rub some $100 bills on it, you sell-out. -duck
Oh I totally get what you're saying...
…but he isn’t any good to us injured either.
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by twistedlogic on Sep 28, 2010 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions
If Koji Uehara strikes out the side tonight, but no one is there to see it, did he really strike out those guys?
I've been playing baseball since I was six years old, so that's 40 years I've been on a baseball field and around a baseball field, and so our opinions are formulated through facts, not fiction, not their little chat room jargon.
That really boggles my mind.
He throws barely harder than I did and I couldn’t even strike out college hitters at anywhere near the rate he is striking out major league hitters. I don’t get it.
Rub some $100 bills on it, you sell-out. -duck
As Janet Jackson said, CONTROL!
Plus he changes speeds well.
I've been playing baseball since I was six years old, so that's 40 years I've been on a baseball field and around a baseball field, and so our opinions are formulated through facts, not fiction, not their little chat room jargon.
Gotta be a shitload of deception too.
Not sure if he hides the ball well or what, but you see guys taking weird swings at a lot of hittable fastballs. That certainly never happened to me – hittable fastballs got hit.
Rub some $100 bills on it, you sell-out. -duck
OT: Ravens
Wow. The Ravens have a -6 turnover differential?!?
That ain’t “Playing like a Raven”.
Have they really only forced 1 TURNOVER in 3 games while committing 7.
That’s not gotta cut it… we need Ed Reed back in a bad way.
by Wieters Wieners on Sep 28, 2010 3:46 PM EDT reply actions
Killing my fantasy team. Well not really, I'm still undefeated.
But I’m seriously considering starting Washington this week, because they are giving up yards like it’s cool, but they are getting sacks and turnovers.
The stache is back!
by Knubles and Bits on Sep 28, 2010 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions
I saw that and made a double take.
I'm hurt dog! Don't ask if me if I'm alright, hell naw! We said dominate and we not doing it! I put my heart into this s***, let's go man! - Ed Reed
by BaltimoreSportsFan on Sep 28, 2010 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Ken Burns "10th Inning"
Given that we know where his loyalties are, how much of the 4 hours do you think will be devoted to the ’04 ACLS?
I’m guessing the over/under is 2:30.
"Fairy tales start 'once upon a time...'. Fishing stories start 'now this ain't no bullshit...'."
- Cap'n Phil Harris
I'll take the over
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by twistedlogic on Sep 28, 2010 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh yes, the last playoff series pre-PHN.
I'm hurt dog! Don't ask if me if I'm alright, hell naw! We said dominate and we not doing it! I put my heart into this s***, let's go man! - Ed Reed
by BaltimoreSportsFan on Sep 28, 2010 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions
From what I hear
There is a fairly large segment on Cal in it…
"Real Orioles don't pout. Real Orioles don't gloat. Real Orioles just win."
by NewYorkOriole on Sep 28, 2010 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions
I have a sense Glee with Britney Spears will be epic.
I'm hurt dog! Don't ask if me if I'm alright, hell naw! We said dominate and we not doing it! I put my heart into this s***, let's go man! - Ed Reed
by BaltimoreSportsFan on Sep 28, 2010 4:50 PM EDT reply actions
You've used that word twice in this thread
In reference to Silly Bandz and Glee. I dont think you know what it means.
ep·ic [ep-ik]
–adjective
1. noting or pertaining to a long poetic composition, usually centered upon a hero, in which a series of great achievements or events is narrated in elevated style: Homer’s Iliad is an epic poem.
2. resembling or suggesting such poetry: an epic novel on the founding of the country.
3. heroic; majestic; impressively great: the epic events of the war.
4. of unusually great size or extent: a crime wave of epic proportions.
I'm hurt dog! Don't ask if me if I'm alright, hell naw! We said dominate and we not doing it! I put my heart into this s***, let's go man! - Ed Reed
by BaltimoreSportsFan on Sep 28, 2010 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions
You would have gotten more points if you said you were being ironic.
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by Eat More Esskay on Sep 28, 2010 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions
....okay........
now explain to me how “I have a sense Glee with Britney Spears will be epic” fits any of the definitions you’ve just posted there…..
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by twistedlogic on Sep 28, 2010 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions
#4.
I'm hurt dog! Don't ask if me if I'm alright, hell naw! We said dominate and we not doing it! I put my heart into this s***, let's go man! - Ed Reed
by BaltimoreSportsFan on Sep 28, 2010 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Please explain how it fits under definition number 4.
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by twistedlogic on Sep 28, 2010 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions
it will have a large viewership and the surprise of the episode I expect with have a great size of surprise.
I'm hurt dog! Don't ask if me if I'm alright, hell naw! We said dominate and we not doing it! I put my heart into this s***, let's go man! - Ed Reed
by BaltimoreSportsFan on Sep 28, 2010 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions
okay...now explain to me if that previous statement was written in english.....
Plus, this is Glee. Every episode has a large viewership.
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by twistedlogic on Sep 28, 2010 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions
maybe Britney has put on a few?
"There's going to be a general lack of toast in the neighbourhood this morning. Many many bewildered breakfast faces."
I'm sure none of you read those trashy celebrity tabloids
But they’re my guilty pleasure. K-Fed got FAT. Y’know, her ex-husband.
I'm back. YAY SUMMER!
maybe there's a lesbian scene.
I've been playing baseball since I was six years old, so that's 40 years I've been on a baseball field and around a baseball field, and so our opinions are formulated through facts, not fiction, not their little chat room jargon.
Ahhaha....I saw that as well.
Kids these days.
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by twistedlogic on Sep 28, 2010 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions
How old are you?
Because EVERYONE says epic now. And by everyone I mean people between the ages of 12-17.
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I think the point was
that he was using them in reference to Glee and Silly Bandz, which seem very non epic.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
and Britney Spears of course
none of which are epic. Epic should be used to refer to something, you know, epic (but don’t take my word for it….I’m outside that 12-17 age bracket).
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by twistedlogic on Sep 28, 2010 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions
BOTH OF THOSE THINGS ARE EPIC
Well, silly bandz aren’t necessarily, but the fact that Jake Arrieta was wearing them?
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
Sorry to break this to you, but "epic" is all the rage with 20-somethings as well.
But even in terms of slang, something that sucks isn’t epic, unless it’s epic fail.
It's as if every eccentric in the South decided to move north, ran out of gas in Baltimore, and decided to stay. - John Waters
by Eat More Esskay on Sep 28, 2010 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions
OK, and I wasn't referring to Glee
Because Glee is the epitome of EPIC FAIL. I was just referring to the use of epic in general.
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Or quite possibly epic ball of fail
or fail of epic proportions.
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by twistedlogic on Sep 29, 2010 9:00 AM EDT up reply actions
Zach Braff's movies have REALLY good soundtracks
I’m listening to The Last Kiss soundtrack.
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Garden State wasn't bad.
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by twistedlogic on Sep 28, 2010 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions
True....although Zach Braff produced that movie?
He wasn’t that good in the movie though, you’re right. Portman was way better.
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by twistedlogic on Sep 28, 2010 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions
And directed it.
I’ve only seen him in Garden State (didn’t actually watch The Last Kiss, just bought the soundtrack), and of course Scrubs, my favorite show.
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The soundtrack to Garden State was solid.
Not epic, but solid. (That’s kinda what she said)
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by twistedlogic on Sep 28, 2010 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions
He chooses all these really good indie songs
It helps me discover new artists. It’s the same for the music on Scrubs. Pretty much all the music on my iPod can somehow be traced to Scrubs.
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My school booked the Shins like 2 weeks before that movie came out or something, the show was 2 months later
They said at the time it was like by far biggest show they had ever played. They got shitfaced beforehand they were so nervous.
Are you kidding me?
I love Zach Braff. He’s one of the most believable actors ever.
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