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Friday Bird Droppings

Recaps of last night's loss can be found at Orioles.comThe SunBostonHerald.com, and MASNsports (with post-game Bergesen)

Late Addition: A Bird in development
An interview with Matt Hobgood at THT. 

Jones gets cortisone shot in ailing shoulder | orioles.com: News
"Orioles outfielder Adam Jones received a cortisone injection in his left shoulder prior to Thursday's 6-4 loss to the Red Sox and will be sidelined until at least the end of the week." Why do I get the feeling there's an AC joint injury they're not telling us about? I'm no doctor, but that's usually why you get cortisone in a shoulder - you've messed up the AC joint.

Orioles not ready to shut down Simon yet | orioles.com: News
"Manager Buck Showalter said the Orioles haven't spoken in "definitive terms" about shutting down struggling reliever Alfredo Simon for the season."

Matusz, Hudson nab Rookie of Month honors | orioles.com: News
"Rookie pitchers are supposed to wilt in the dog days of summer. Evidently, the Orioles' Brian Matusz and the D-backs' Daniel Hudson didn't get the memo. The two young arms were chosen as the Gillette presents Rookie of the Month winners in their respective leagues."

Orioles Insider: Would you keep any of the Orioles' pending free agents?
"The Orioles have seven players facing free agency at year’s end. Do you want any of these guys back? Who and why?"

Steve Melewski: Garza to O's: "I'm going to shove it down your throat this time."
Matt Garza tells the St. Petersburg Times he owes the Orioles "a lot of payback" and that he's "going to make them feel really uncomfortable in the box." He went on to say "I'm going to shove it down your throat this time."

Star-divide

IN THE MINORS

2010 Gulf Coast League Orioles Season Review - Orioles Prospects
"The 2010 GCL Orioles wrapped up their season on Saturday with a 6-3 loss to the GCL Rays, finishing with a 25-34 record. The ’10 Gulf Coast League hitters from all teams combined for a line of .247/.321/.349. Clearly, this is a league dominated by pitchers. The Orioles as a team were below league average, with a combined .238/.306/.312 line."

Critics say the fix was in for stadium deal | WTSP.com
"E-mails we obtained show a consultant hired by the county to help chose the owners representative wrote to them and said "let me know if you have any specific language or requirements that would differentiate you guys from others." and another saying, " let's talk strategy to give you the best chance to get hired."

Orioles Insider: Minor league game recaps -- Sept. 2
Norfolk won, Bowie won, Frederick lost, Delmarva lost, Aberdeen lost. Bill Rowell is batting .274 with 11 home runs, 56 RBIs and 24 doubles in 113 games for Frederick this season. He is batting .341 with one home run and five RBIs in his past 10 games.

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Shouldn't the umpires be made aware of this threat

So that the first time he throws at someone he gets tossed?

The stache is back!

by Knubles and Bits on Sep 3, 2010 7:36 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

...or at least the first time he shoves something down their throats.

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Sep 3, 2010 8:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

i think literally shoving something down a throat

gets the dugouts warned.

...a piece of V mail in which everything but the salutation "Dear Mary" had been blocked out and on which the censoring officer had written, "I long for you tragically. R. O. Shipman, Chaplain, U.S. Army."

by Andrew_G on Sep 3, 2010 9:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm sure his teammates love this kind of b.s.

Pitchers shoving something down batters’ throats is a two-way street.

by Fred Sanford on Sep 3, 2010 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

i kinda liked matt garza before he says stupid stuff like that

i can guarantee wiggy ain’t gonna get clotheslined like nyjer morgan when HE charges the mound.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Sep 3, 2010 8:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

make it green!

"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." ~ The Dude

by PBR me ASAP! on Sep 3, 2010 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Anybody else getting the feeling

that Brady Anderson is gunning for the hitting coach job in 2011?

...a piece of V mail in which everything but the salutation "Dear Mary" had been blocked out and on which the censoring officer had written, "I long for you tragically. R. O. Shipman, Chaplain, U.S. Army."

by Andrew_G on Sep 3, 2010 8:40 AM EDT reply actions  

I particularly enjoyed last night

when Felix was up toward the end of the game and a ball outside was called a strike. Brady says, ‘I guarantee you this was not in the strike zone…(replay)…it wasn’t.

by tjk on Sep 3, 2010 9:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm all for it...

he’s been fun to listen to during his time on both the radio and TV broadcasts. He seems to have a good relationship with both Buck and the players.

"No one ever went broke underestimating the taste of the American public." - H.L. Mencken

by TerroristFistJab on Sep 3, 2010 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

I've thought that for awhile

The kind of things he talks about are very “hoping Buck hears this and thinks I’m brilliant and would like to hire me to be the hitting coach.”

Luke and Felix are good for the soul. -33

by Stacey on Sep 3, 2010 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

also the orioles sent him to norfolk multiple times

to work on Nolan’s hitting?He’s got to be the frontrunner for the job right now, right? I guess I’d be good with it. He was an awfully good hitter, understood the value of the walk, understood the strike zone, and while I don’t know if any of that would translate, I’d rather have a caoch with those qualities than one without, and we can all agree that if nothing else a change from the Crow would probably be for the best just for change’s sake.

...a piece of V mail in which everything but the salutation "Dear Mary" had been blocked out and on which the censoring officer had written, "I long for you tragically. R. O. Shipman, Chaplain, U.S. Army."

by Andrew_G on Sep 3, 2010 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah I think I'd be pro

I mean, why not? I don’t know what makes a good coach any more than I know what makes a good manager, but Brady sure talks a good game.

You know that he’s praying Reimold will spend the month of September raking, he’s part of Brady’s job interview.

Luke and Felix are good for the soul. -33

by Stacey on Sep 3, 2010 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

he also understand the value of performance enhancing drugs working out a lot to get bigger and stronger and suddenly be able to hit 50 jacks.

by Luke E on Sep 3, 2010 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

hes gotta be better than the crow

maybe brady can convince buck not to freakin pinch hit for reimold so izturis can get up there and strike the fuck out

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Sep 3, 2010 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

That Garza quote

Is the kind of thing that would make me hate a lot of people, but he’s such a strange person that it just makes me laugh coming from him.

Luke and Felix are good for the soul. -33

by Stacey on Sep 3, 2010 9:43 AM EDT reply actions  

Really?

It makes me hope that Roberts hit’s a liner off his balls to lead off the game and after crying in the fetal position in front of the mound for 10-15 minutes he decides to stay in and immediately gives up back to back to back to back to back to back HRs before being taken out.

Rub some $100 bills on it, you sell-out. -duck

by O'sFan21 on Sep 3, 2010 9:53 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I hope for this, too

but Garza at least adds color to what would otherwise be a pretty standard, relatively boring game. I’m all for color and faux-rivalries.

...a piece of V mail in which everything but the salutation "Dear Mary" had been blocked out and on which the censoring officer had written, "I long for you tragically. R. O. Shipman, Chaplain, U.S. Army."

by Andrew_G on Sep 3, 2010 9:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nah

Garza is a total nutter, but in a funny harmless way that makes me laugh. Unlike Nyjer Morgan kind of crazy. I hope we demolish him, for sure, but I’d hope that anyway.

Luke and Felix are good for the soul. -33

by Stacey on Sep 3, 2010 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't care if he's all Milton Bradley

talking about shoving it down the Orioles throat and hitting guys intentionally for no reason gets you on my shit list.

Rub some $100 bills on it, you sell-out. -duck

by O'sFan21 on Sep 3, 2010 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

You're right

He said throwing at them and hoping they move out of the way. Sorry.

Rub some $100 bills on it, you sell-out. -duck

by O'sFan21 on Sep 3, 2010 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

hahaha

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Sep 3, 2010 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

although this is the one time i'd want to have nyjer morgan on my team

we can sacrifice him to protect the rest of the team

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Sep 3, 2010 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'd rather have Matt Garza say "you got me last time, I'm gonna get you this time"

than douchebag Dustin Pedroia saying, “we thought we’d come in here and get three easy wins.” Granted I like Garza and hate Pedroia, but Garza’s little tirade treats them like competitors while Pedroia treated them as an afterthought.

Luke and Felix are good for the soul. -33

by Stacey on Sep 3, 2010 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm all for that

but don’t talk about throwing at people. Now if he accidentally hits somebody the O’s are going to feel like they have to retaliate and shit gets stirred up for no reason. If he had just kept that stupid shit to himself it would be just a normal game.

Rub some $100 bills on it, you sell-out. -duck

by O'sFan21 on Sep 3, 2010 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

im not sure you can automatically

assume he’s talking about throwing at our batters. It could be intrepreted more like “I’m gonna shove a million strikeouts right down their throat”.

...a piece of V mail in which everything but the salutation "Dear Mary" had been blocked out and on which the censoring officer had written, "I long for you tragically. R. O. Shipman, Chaplain, U.S. Army."

by Andrew_G on Sep 3, 2010 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not talking about that quote - I don't care about that.

I’m talking about this one:

He tells the St. Petersburg Times he owes the Orioles “a lot of payback” and that he’s “going to make them feel really uncomfortable in the box.”

Hard to interpret that any other way.

Rub some $100 bills on it, you sell-out. -duck

by O'sFan21 on Sep 3, 2010 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

i still don't know

why would he just throw at our guys? I mean, go nuts, get thrown out of the game, give us some extra free bases. That makes no sense, unless he’s just talking about owning the inside part of the strikezone and dominating.

...a piece of V mail in which everything but the salutation "Dear Mary" had been blocked out and on which the censoring officer had written, "I long for you tragically. R. O. Shipman, Chaplain, U.S. Army."

by Andrew_G on Sep 3, 2010 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

I have no idea why he would do it, but he said it.

If somebody says they’re going to make people “really uncomfortable in the box” they are definitely not talking about being in the strike zone. Being in the strike zone doesn’t make people uncomfortable.

As Stacey said – he’s a nutter…

Rub some $100 bills on it, you sell-out. -duck

by O'sFan21 on Sep 3, 2010 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

At any rate

he can talk all he wants. Like I said it makes the game more interesting if there’s reason for heat. If he starts hitting guys, then that changes things. But until then, bark all you want, little doggie.

...a piece of V mail in which everything but the salutation "Dear Mary" had been blocked out and on which the censoring officer had written, "I long for you tragically. R. O. Shipman, Chaplain, U.S. Army."

by Andrew_G on Sep 3, 2010 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think that making people feel uncomfortable in the box

is a very acceptable way of pitching effectively.

Luke and Felix are good for the soul. -33

by Stacey on Sep 3, 2010 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

Obviously

but a)don’t talk about it, b) don’t talk about it when you have just said you owed a team “payback”, and c) don’t talk about it when you’re talked about “shoving it down their throat.” It’s just asking for trouble.

Rub some $100 bills on it, you sell-out. -duck

by O'sFan21 on Sep 3, 2010 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

I won't single you out

but if it was Arrieta who said that same thing about some team that tagged him earlier in the season, I’m guessing that a bunch of people (myself included) would think that was fucking outstanding. Get a little swagger going.

...a piece of V mail in which everything but the salutation "Dear Mary" had been blocked out and on which the censoring officer had written, "I long for you tragically. R. O. Shipman, Chaplain, U.S. Army."

by Andrew_G on Sep 3, 2010 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

The shove it down their throat part maybe, but I’m not a fan of talking about throwing at people. I like guys who don’t say much and just do shit.

Rub some $100 bills on it, you sell-out. -duck

by O'sFan21 on Sep 3, 2010 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

again, I just dont read it as

“I’m gonna throw at you”

...a piece of V mail in which everything but the salutation "Dear Mary" had been blocked out and on which the censoring officer had written, "I long for you tragically. R. O. Shipman, Chaplain, U.S. Army."

by Andrew_G on Sep 3, 2010 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

How else do you make people uncomfortable?

Throwing NEAR them?

Rub some $100 bills on it, you sell-out. -duck

by O'sFan21 on Sep 3, 2010 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

behind them.

Buck Showalter clearly isn't interested in having Anthony Rendon as a member of the Orioles.

by BaltimoreSportsFan on Sep 3, 2010 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

behind them wouldnt be down a throat tho would it?

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Sep 3, 2010 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

Don't tell that...

to Nyjer Morgan.

"No one ever went broke underestimating the taste of the American public." - H.L. Mencken

by TerroristFistJab on Sep 3, 2010 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

by pitching well

...a piece of V mail in which everything but the salutation "Dear Mary" had been blocked out and on which the censoring officer had written, "I long for you tragically. R. O. Shipman, Chaplain, U.S. Army."

by Andrew_G on Sep 3, 2010 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

how does that make anybody uncomfortable???

And come on! Everybody knows exactly what he meant. Chin music, brush backs, knock downs. There’s no other meaning for making hitters uncomfortable.

Rub some $100 bills on it, you sell-out. -duck

by O'sFan21 on Sep 3, 2010 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

i think he meant

LITERALLY throwing the ball down their throats.

It’s going to be a hell of a curve….

"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott

by zknower on Sep 3, 2010 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

make someone feel uncomfortable and "shove it down their throats"

sounds a hell of a lot like throw as close as i possibly can to somebody, potentially hitting them. considering that the throat is part of the body, hard to imagine the ball getting shoved down a throat without hitting someone.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Sep 3, 2010 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

you people are too literal

it’s trash talk. That’s all it is. It’s not a threat or anything else. Garza isn’t stupid.

...a piece of V mail in which everything but the salutation "Dear Mary" had been blocked out and on which the censoring officer had written, "I long for you tragically. R. O. Shipman, Chaplain, U.S. Army."

by Andrew_G on Sep 3, 2010 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well, he's a little stupid

but not stupid enough to say “I’m gonna hit you assholes!” and then to hit them during a pennant race. He’d be suspended real quick.

...a piece of V mail in which everything but the salutation "Dear Mary" had been blocked out and on which the censoring officer had written, "I long for you tragically. R. O. Shipman, Chaplain, U.S. Army."

by Andrew_G on Sep 3, 2010 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

no no no

There really is no other meaning for those words in baseball.

Rub some $100 bills on it, you sell-out. -duck

by O'sFan21 on Sep 3, 2010 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

well ok then

I hope Adam Jones goes all Nyjer Morgan on him before the first pitch. That’ll show that asshole.

...a piece of V mail in which everything but the salutation "Dear Mary" had been blocked out and on which the censoring officer had written, "I long for you tragically. R. O. Shipman, Chaplain, U.S. Army."

by Andrew_G on Sep 3, 2010 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Although when he goes Nyjer Morgan

Let’s hope he doesn’t destroyed like Nyjer Morgan.

Buck Showalter clearly isn't interested in having Anthony Rendon as a member of the Orioles.

by BaltimoreSportsFan on Sep 3, 2010 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

yes

except that he said he was going to make people feel uncomfortable and “shove it down their throats.”

shove it down my throat and i’ll shove it straight up your ass.

/nyjer morgan’d

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Sep 3, 2010 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

man

shoving it down people’s throats and up their assess?? This sounds like a porn…

Rub some $100 bills on it, you sell-out. -duck

by O'sFan21 on Sep 3, 2010 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

porn with matt garza and nyjer morgan??

whatever makes you happy, dude.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Sep 3, 2010 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

I didn't say it sounded like a GOOD porn...

Rub some $100 bills on it, you sell-out. -duck

by O'sFan21 on Sep 3, 2010 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’d rather have Matt Garza say “you got me last time, I’m gonna get you this time” than douchebag Dustin Pedroia saying, "we thought we’d come in here and get three easy wins." Granted I like Garza and hate Pedroia, but Garza’s little tirade treats them like competitors while Pedroia treated them as an afterthought.

EXACTLY. I was indifferent to Garza before today but I’m a fan now.

I've been playing baseball since I was six years old, so that's 40 years I've been on a baseball field and around a baseball field, and so our opinions are formulated through facts, not fiction, not their little chat room jargon.

by birdman on Sep 3, 2010 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's pretty much what I hope for in every game.

"If you’re not in with the Orioles, then you can ply your trade somewhere else." - Buck Showalter

by 2632 on Sep 3, 2010 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

Which FA to keep this off season?

Of those on the list, only Koji interests me. I would offer Koji an incentive deal based on appearances. He has been injured alot. Patterson should be offered a minor league deal in case one of our OFers gets injured (although others could fill in just as well) . I really hope that a trade is made for a shortstop. None of the FA SS impresses me. Tampa has several. St Louis has some. Let’s trade for one.
Wigginton is not a valid answer for this team at 1B. If Wiggy comes back, it will be late in the off season and only as a super sub. The Orioles need to trade for a 1B. None of the FA 1B are worth giving up our 2nd round pick next spring. It’s time to trade some of the young pitching and maybe a “potential” position player for a cleanup hitter to play 1B.

by fuddnelson on Sep 3, 2010 10:26 AM EDT reply actions  

agreed

...a piece of V mail in which everything but the salutation "Dear Mary" had been blocked out and on which the censoring officer had written, "I long for you tragically. R. O. Shipman, Chaplain, U.S. Army."

by Andrew_G on Sep 3, 2010 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

My thoughts

KOJI! KOJI! KOJI! KOJI!

Buck Showalter clearly isn't interested in having Anthony Rendon as a member of the Orioles.

by BaltimoreSportsFan on Sep 3, 2010 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

None of the free agent 1B are worth a 2nd rounder

but resigning Koji is? Why not just offer arb. and know you either get him back or get a 2nd rounder? Also, are we getting into the playoffs next year with Fielder or AGon? Because if we aren’t, why trade a very valuable piece for one of them instead of waiting one more season to get them in free agency?

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Sep 3, 2010 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agree with all of that.

Rub some $100 bills on it, you sell-out. -duck

by O'sFan21 on Sep 4, 2010 2:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

On Hobgood...
“Everyone is making their assumptions now, but I think it’s a little bit early. You look at Ubaldo Jimenez right now, he’s got what, 17, 18 wins? I heard he was like 4-11, or something terrible when he was in A-Ball.”

Um, Matt? He was 10-6 in low A in 2003, his first full year in the minors. Try again.

"I got a good Christian raising and a 8th grade education / Ain't no need in y'all in treating me this way." - Billy Joe Shaver

by duck on Sep 3, 2010 10:50 AM EDT reply actions  

ehhh

Facts have a well-known liberal bias!

Rub some $100 bills on it, you sell-out. -duck

by O'sFan21 on Sep 3, 2010 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

i have zero faith in him ever amounting to anything.

Also, WTF?

To add insult to injury, the 6-foot-4 Hobgood, who weighed 245-250 pounds when he was drafted, ballooned to 270 by spring training. The increase was partly in muscle, but also in fat. He declined to say how much he weighs at the moment, but added that he was not where he “needed to be.”
 The typical pre- and post-game spread does not help matters, particularly on the road (In Lakewood, for instance, hot dogs, oatmeal creme pies, and potato chips highlight the typical entree). Hobgood’s main focus is educating himself on nutrition, even when dealing with limited choices.

I’d hope the Orioles have more nutritional post-game spreads, and nutrition counselors on the payroll in the minors. If they don’t, they should. And they should provide some option for kids who go to an opponent’s park and are faced with nothing but fatty food after the game.

"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott

by zknower on Sep 3, 2010 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have some questions

1) HOW MUCH was his bonus?

2) It never occurred to him to use some of that money to consult with a nutritionist and develop a healthier eating plan and plan for these road trips?

Wasted, wasted money.

"I got a good Christian raising and a 8th grade education / Ain't no need in y'all in treating me this way." - Billy Joe Shaver

by duck on Sep 3, 2010 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Shit

He doesn’t need to spend any of his own money on a nutritionist – the O’s have them!

Rub some $100 bills on it, you sell-out. -duck

by O'sFan21 on Sep 3, 2010 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, wow. hot dogs, creme pies, and potato chips?

I've been playing baseball since I was six years old, so that's 40 years I've been on a baseball field and around a baseball field, and so our opinions are formulated through facts, not fiction, not their little chat room jargon.

by birdman on Sep 3, 2010 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

ewww that stuff makes me want to puke

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Sep 3, 2010 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

As far as I'm aware, that's pretty typical minor league fare

A year or so ago, I read a piece Rob Neyer did about minor league meals and the conclusion was pretty much “they are all terrible and it makes no sense why the big league clubs don’t pay to have them be better.”

by Holymittens on Sep 3, 2010 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Which free agents would I keep?

I’d offer arbitration to Wigginton and Uehara, and hope some other team signs Uehara because MLBTR projects him to be a Type B.

Librarians are hiding something

by dfa on Sep 3, 2010 10:59 AM EDT reply actions  

Matt Garza, if you have to trash talk a team that's 35 games out of first place, it says more about you than it says about us.

I mean, talk about insecure. Jesus.

It's as if every eccentric in the South decided to move north, ran out of gas in Baltimore, and decided to stay. - John Waters

by Eat More Esskay on Sep 3, 2010 11:26 AM EDT reply actions  

Maybe the facial hair is insecure.

Buck Showalter clearly isn't interested in having Anthony Rendon as a member of the Orioles.

by BaltimoreSportsFan on Sep 3, 2010 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Totally.

Douchey. Goes with his necklace, although it’s not as douchey as some other necklaces I’ve seen.

From the Land of Pleasant Living...

by OEutaw on Sep 3, 2010 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

vom.

"If you’re not in with the Orioles, then you can ply your trade somewhere else." - Buck Showalter

by 2632 on Sep 3, 2010 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

If he wants to trash talk

Then Buck needs to tell his charges, “Let’s take out the trash, gents.”

by Fred Sanford on Sep 3, 2010 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I loved it. I want Matt Garza on my team.

Most players would be like, who cares, it’s the Orioles. But he want to beat our brains out as if we’re .5 a game ahead of the Rays for a playoff spot.

I've been playing baseball since I was six years old, so that's 40 years I've been on a baseball field and around a baseball field, and so our opinions are formulated through facts, not fiction, not their little chat room jargon.

by birdman on Sep 3, 2010 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's a fair point.

I think maybe I’m predisposed to dislike him because of the douchey facial hair.

It's as if every eccentric in the South decided to move north, ran out of gas in Baltimore, and decided to stay. - John Waters

by Eat More Esskay on Sep 3, 2010 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Izzie

Leaving in Izzie to strike out was mystifying. It reminded me of an important game, years ago, when Earl Weaver left in Mark Belanger to face the formidable Goose Gossage in the 9th. Belanger took three feeble hacks, striking out. I figured that Earl was angry with Belanger and sent him to the plate to punish him. I can’t see a reason for Buck to send Izzie to the plate for a ritual sacrifice.

By the way, I wish that our younger CC members could have seen the Blade in his prime. He was an outstanding shortstop. During the years when Brooks was at 3rd and Mark was at SS, not much got through the left side of the infield. If Mark could have hit a little, he would be in the HOF.

by BaltoBen on Sep 3, 2010 12:48 PM EDT reply actions  

By the way, I wish that our younger CC members could have seen the Blade in his prime. He was an outstanding shortstop. During the years when Brooks was at 3rd and Mark was at SS, not much got through the left side of the infield.

Yeah, I really wish I’d gotten to see those two play. Among others.

"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver

by Vuff on Sep 3, 2010 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

I actually saw Belanger hit his annual home run in '77, I believe.

Off the left field foul pole.

"I got a good Christian raising and a 8th grade education / Ain't no need in y'all in treating me this way." - Billy Joe Shaver

by duck on Sep 3, 2010 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

I enjoyed those teams, too

I remember someone on an opposing team claiming that you couldn’t THROW a ball through the left side of the Orioles infield. Brooks and the blade were that good.

by fuddnelson on Sep 3, 2010 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

off-topic: Machete opens today.

I've been playing baseball since I was six years old, so that's 40 years I've been on a baseball field and around a baseball field, and so our opinions are formulated through facts, not fiction, not their little chat room jargon.

by birdman on Sep 3, 2010 12:56 PM EDT reply actions  

That will be a Netflix must for me

"I got a good Christian raising and a 8th grade education / Ain't no need in y'all in treating me this way." - Billy Joe Shaver

by duck on Sep 3, 2010 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

What about Going the Distance?

I've been playing baseball since I was six years old, so that's 40 years I've been on a baseball field and around a baseball field, and so our opinions are formulated through facts, not fiction, not their little chat room jargon.

by birdman on Sep 3, 2010 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nyjer Morgan suspended 8 games for the Marlins dustup

Chris Volstad got 6, Gaby Sanchez 3, Pat Listach 3, Doug Slaten 3, Alex Sanabia 5.

Luke and Felix are good for the soul. -33

by Stacey on Sep 3, 2010 1:13 PM EDT reply actions  

He got 7 games for that

He appealed it which is why he was playing against the Marlins

Luke and Felix are good for the soul. -33

by Stacey on Sep 3, 2010 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just remember that...

at least one other fan appears to be corroborating Nyer’s side of the story that it was an accident

FREE NYJER!

"No one ever went broke underestimating the taste of the American public." - H.L. Mencken

by TerroristFistJab on Sep 3, 2010 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

charging the mound was an accident too

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Sep 3, 2010 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

He obviously just thought someone throwing behind you was worth two bases

and was taking what he considered to be the shortest path to 2nd.

by kba26 on Sep 3, 2010 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

To add to the discussion from yesterday...

is this choice quote from Wes Helms:

“That’s the only reason we tried to go after him a second time …” Marlins third baseman Wes Helms told the South Florida Sun-Sentinel. “I cannot stand when a guy shows somebody up … There’s just no place in baseball for that. In my opinion, you’re going to get what’s coming to you if you do that.”

It looks like the Marlins were butthurt that he stole both bases (despite them holding him on in a 14-3 4th inning game), not that he was too aggressive with his slides.

"No one ever went broke underestimating the taste of the American public." - H.L. Mencken

by TerroristFistJab on Sep 3, 2010 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

So?

That was one of the 3 things I said he did wrong. Wes Helms obviously feels the most strongly about that one.

Rub some $100 bills on it, you sell-out. -duck

by O'sFan21 on Sep 3, 2010 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know...

I just thought it was interesting to hear the rationalization coming from the Marlins’ side of things. I would be willing to bet if you asked their entire 25 man roster you’d get about 4-5 “reasons” that they had to throw at him for a second time. “The Code” is so fucking arbitrary that it ends up being stupid after a certain point.

I also didn’t realize at the time that Volstad hit two other batters by the time Morgan got thrown at again, which to me indicates how fucking useless umpires are. Volstad should have been warned after obv. hitting Morgan in the 4th and then tossed after hitting a second batter.

"No one ever went broke underestimating the taste of the American public." - H.L. Mencken

by TerroristFistJab on Sep 3, 2010 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

although who knows

the other two may actually have been accidental. He is 6th in the NL…although after hitting 3 in one game I’m sure he jumped a few guys…

Rub some $100 bills on it, you sell-out. -duck

by O'sFan21 on Sep 3, 2010 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah...

that is definately the case with Guthrie – a guy who just hits people sometimes, so its possible.

"No one ever went broke underestimating the taste of the American public." - H.L. Mencken

by TerroristFistJab on Sep 6, 2010 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah

Matt Garza would know about getting things shoved down throats. never mind.

So, I’m really starting to hate the Rays, that is good. I hope we get a nice brawl going. Josh Bell is to any Rays player as Gaby Sanchez is to Nyjer Morgan.

Bring back Luis Matos.

by WestcoastO'sFan on Sep 3, 2010 1:20 PM EDT reply actions  

1st Base Problem

I was reading MLB Daily Dish and they were saying Prince Fielder will be on the market in the offseason. The also were wondering wether the Orioles would be interested in trading for him.
 
I was thinking that if we could get him cheap ( i truly doubt) he would be an ok pickup just to hit but we also need a defensive first basebase man which he truly isn’t.

Overall i think it depends on wat it takes to get him.

"On my tombstone just write, 'The sorest loser that ever lived.'" Earl Weaver

by MudDawg on Sep 3, 2010 2:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Adam Jones responds to Matt Garza

From Melewski

“Nice. I mean, you take it two ways. I take it really just one way. That’s what a leader does for their team. They’re in a playoff race and they are trying to win that division. He’s supposed to say that. Now if he comes out and gives up a few bombs early and we get him out in the third or fourth inning, he will definitely have to answer some questions for that.

“If he throws a good game, like he is well capable of, then he is trying to back up his words. They’re in a playoff race.”

But didn’t he provide motivation for the Orioles with those comments?

“Definitely. I know one guy that’s angry is Luke. Wiggy is probably hot right now too.”

Has Jones talked to them about Garza’s comments?

“Just knowing Luke. Luke hears anything he doesn’t like, he’s got a grudge and he’s trying to hit something, really, really hard off you.

“But that is fire, that’s part of the game of baseball. These are must-win games for them if they want to keep up with the Yankees. He’s free to say what he wants.”

Does Jones interpret those comments to mean Garza might throw at an O’s hitter tonight?

“No. If you watch him pitch, he comes after you. That’s why I like facing this whole entire staff, they come after you. Look in their eyes, they’ll give you everything they’ve got every pitch.

“He pounds the strike zone and you know what you are going to get. You are going to get 95, 96, two seamers running inside, sliders, curves, some change-ups to right-handers.”

Luke and Felix are good for the soul. -33

by Stacey on Sep 3, 2010 3:19 PM EDT reply actions  

If that's true abut Luke, we need get him pissed more often.

Buck Showalter clearly isn't interested in having Anthony Rendon as a member of the Orioles.

by BaltimoreSportsFan on Sep 3, 2010 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

More often? All the time.

"On my tombstone just write, 'The sorest loser that ever lived.'" Earl Weaver

by MudDawg on Sep 3, 2010 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

He does have a lot of guns.

I wouldn’t want him pissed all the time, you never know what can happen when you’ve got guns.

Buck Showalter clearly isn't interested in having Anthony Rendon as a member of the Orioles.

by BaltimoreSportsFan on Sep 3, 2010 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Epecially when u got NFL players at clubs........

"On my tombstone just write, 'The sorest loser that ever lived.'" Earl Weaver

by MudDawg on Sep 3, 2010 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Zing

Buck Showalter clearly isn't interested in having Anthony Rendon as a member of the Orioles.

by BaltimoreSportsFan on Sep 3, 2010 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

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