Tuesday Bird Droppings
by duck on Sep 7, 2010 6:27 AM EDT
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PrintRecaps from yesterday's win can be found at Orioles.com, The Sun, NYTimes.com, and MASNsports (with post-game Buck)
Hernandez, Viola to join Orioles | orioles.com: News
"The Orioles will get an extra set of arms in New York on Tuesday, with David Hernandez and Pedro Viola expected to join the club prior to the 7:05 p.m. ET game against the Yankees."
O's Jones raring to go, potentially Tuesday | orioles.com: News
"Orioles manager Buck Showalter hoped center fielder Adam Jones, who was held out of on Monday's afternoon's starting lineup, was mad at him -- a sign that Jones' progress has reached a point to where he's nearly a full-go."
Uehara key to revitalized O's bullpen - The Sun
"As Koji Uehara walked through the visiting clubhouse Monday morning, several of his teammates serenaded him with chants of "Koji, Koji, Koji," copying the fans at Camden Yards Sunday while the reliever was converting a one-run save opportunity against the Tampa Bay Rays."
Former New York Yankees manager Buck Showalter shows last-place Orioles how to win - NY Daily News
"The former Yankee manager pulled out a detailed schedule for spring training 2011, complete with the exact mileage from Orioles' camp in Sarasota to every Florida town in which his team will play. "You already have the mileage figured out?" someone asked with a hint of disbelief. "How else am I going to know what time the bus should leave?" Showalter replied with a shrug." That's our Buck!
With Showalter at Helm, Orioles Head Into September on Upswing - NYTimes.com
"You can’t just walk over us," said the left-hander Brian Matusz, who worked six innings to win his fourth start in a row. "We’re playing good baseball right now. We’re doing all the little things right. It’s fun to come out and beat teams in our division and continue this streak that we have."
Your Monday Afternoon Power Rankings | HardballTalk
We're #25! We're #25! Seriously, that's the highest I've seen the O's ranked since the first two weeks of the season.
IN THE MINORS
All remaining minor league affiliates aside from Frederick ended their seasons yesterday. Mychal Givens was promoted from Aberdeen to Frederick for the playoffs, according to several news outlets.
OriolesProspects - The 2010 Draft Class in Review
It's a complete breakdown of the Os 2010 draft class.
Norfolk lost 6-5
The Bulls 2010 regular season ended in dramatic fashion, as Leslie Anderson drove home the game-winning run with a bases loaded single in the 12th inning to give Durham a 6-5 victory over Norfolk.
Baysox Grounded In Richmond | Bowie Baysox News
"The Bowie Baysox lost to the Richmond Flying Squirrels 4-3 Monday afternoon, ending the season on a three-game losing streak. With the loss, the Baysox finish the regular season at 75-67, 2.0 games behind the Harrisburg Senators for the final playoff position in the Western Division. It was the Baysox fourth consecutive winning season, the longest streak in franchise history."
OFFENSIVE ONSLAUGHT CLOSES REGULAR SEASON | Frederick Keys News
"All but one Frederick Key registered a multi-hit game and a run batted in as the Keys won a shootout in the final game of the regular season against Wilmington, 14-8. For the Keys, their 19 hits were a season high."
Shorebirds Fall in Season Finale, 7-2 | Delmarva Shorebirds News
"The Augusta GreenJackets used an eight-inning performance by pitcher Andy Reichard and a four-run sixth inning to beat Delmarva, 7-2, in the finale of the 2010 season from Arthur W. Perdue Stadium. In his final outing of the year, Matt Hobgood allowed only one hit and no runs in five innings. He retired the final nine batters that he faced."
IronBirds Close Out Season With One Last Walk-Off Win | Aberdeen IronBirds News
"For the eighth time this season, the Aberdeen IronBirds won in walk-off fashion. Trailing 7-5 with two outs in the 13th inning, Manny Machado hit a two-run triple to tie the ball game. Kipp Schutz, who was named the team's MVP before the game, hit a game-winning single as Aberdeen defeated the Connecticut Tigers 8-7. "
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tut tut tut
haha virginia tech
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
Maryland won. I'm happy.
"That's what I want to see tomorrow. Do we understand what the f--- I want to see tomorrow? Let's go eat a g-d d--n snack."- Rex Ryan
My gut was right.
It should be, there’s enough of it.
In the meantime, you, of all people, must have heard this (apparently old) riddle — or Zen koan — at some point:
“What’s the difference between a duck?”
"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.
There is none
"That's what I want to see tomorrow. Do we understand what the f--- I want to see tomorrow? Let's go eat a g-d d--n snack."- Rex Ryan
so every duck is the same?
that’s boring
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Sep 7, 2010 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
well played.
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
I honestly wasn't sure if
anybody else would get it. I never know exactly how popular certain shows really are.
...a piece of V mail in which everything but the salutation "Dear Mary" had been blocked out and on which the censoring officer had written, "I long for you tragically. R. O. Shipman, Chaplain, U.S. Army."
I'm still clueless
which should suirprise exactly no one.
"That's what I want to see tomorrow. Do we understand what the f--- I want to see tomorrow? Let's go eat a g-d d--n snack."- Rex Ryan
same here
but i dont watch much tv these days
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Sep 7, 2010 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions
it's from Sunday night's MAD MEN
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
ahh
never seen that show.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Sep 7, 2010 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions
ZOMG
Best thing on TV—right now, and since its debut.
BY FAR.
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
Agreed
though I feel like Rubicon is finally starting to hit its stride, and I’m not sure I’m not enjoying that more than Mad Men right now.
I gave up on Rubicon after 5 eps.
it was pretty clear what it’s going to be.
I have no interest in another “Lost”, where every week is about 2-dimensional characters and then they GIVE US ANOTHER PIECE OF THE PUZZLE! two minutes before the end credits.
I really liked it at first, but then it seemed clear they didn’t know what to do with it.
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
I have a lot more faith in the Rubicon writers
than I did in the Lost writers to not toally fuck it up. I feel like recently too the other characters have had a lot more depth added to them, especially in the most recent episode. I’m too much of a tv junkie not to follow through, but i can see how some people have been turned off.
It really is brilliant
This is the first season I’ve seen in real time, we watched the rest on DVD. I just love it.
You can't just walk over us. -Brian Matusz
OK, this is the way it supposedly goes: "What's the difference between a duck?"
“One of its legs is both the same.”
Yeah, it’s a one-hand-clapping kind thing, I guess. One commentator (found via a quick Googling) described it as an illustration of the impossible being resolved by the inscrutable — a “pair-o-ducks”, he called it.
Nah, I still like Okinawa…
"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.
Glad they won,
But they were dominated in every aspect except luck. Should have been about 35-17 navy.
The stache is back!
by Knubles and Bits on Sep 7, 2010 10:02 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I love the team chanting Koji!
Luke and Felix are good for the soul. -33
by Stacey on Sep 7, 2010 8:05 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
At least Matt Hobgood ended the year on a good note
And I like the O’s promoting Givens for the playoffs.
"That's what I want to see tomorrow. Do we understand what the f--- I want to see tomorrow? Let's go eat a g-d d--n snack."- Rex Ryan
I'll bet
the other team doesn’t like it so much
Has there ever been a cooler Oriole than Eddie Murray? I mean, just straight up cool. Like a bad, suave dude. You know what I'm sayin'. COOL. SC 7/24/08
by 33 on Sep 7, 2010 9:27 AM EDT up reply actions
Consdiering what Cleveland did to us a few years back with Pronk
I don’t care
"That's what I want to see tomorrow. Do we understand what the f--- I want to see tomorrow? Let's go eat a g-d d--n snack."- Rex Ryan
Really regretting how many dollar hot dogs I had last night
It could actually just be all the beer, but i’m choosing to blame the hot dogs.
mmmm dollar hot dogs
dollar beers too?
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Sep 7, 2010 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions
aww
that woulda been awesome. i can imagine having some difficulties with that however….considering the way i consume hot dogs and beer…….
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Sep 7, 2010 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions
ouch
that sucks. stadium beer prices have turned me off to buying season tix. i was strongly considering getting caps season tix, but i realized i’d probably be buying a extra set of tix with the amount of beer i’d purchase there. don’t have that kinda money layin around….
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Sep 7, 2010 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions
I have my MLS season tickets, but anything else would be well outside my price range
And i pretty much entirely avoid the concessions there too, which is easier to do since soccer doesn’t lend itself well to getting up to buy food or beer.
hockey has the damned 12 minute intermissions
not that you’d ever want to go during one to get food. lines essentially wrap around the concourse. even takes like 20 mins just to pee, the lines are so long.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Sep 7, 2010 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions
TIME FOR 10 CENT BEER NIGHT!!!
Or maybe not… http://deadspin.com/5278916/relive-the-majesty-and-terror-of-ten+cent-beer-night
"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.
mlb's o's.com article includes this gem:
""Obviously, the team is playing well," Uehara said through translator Jiwon Bang of an Orioles team that is 20-3 under Showalter. "And I get to pitch in a good situation, so that’s motivating, yes. "
20-3! Awesome typo.
It feels like 20-3 to me sometimes
It’s amazing how good winning a few more than you lose (and after the break even) feels after all these years.
Has there ever been a cooler Oriole than Eddie Murray? I mean, just straight up cool. Like a bad, suave dude. You know what I'm sayin'. COOL. SC 7/24/08
well, CC Sabathia will undoubtedly bring you back down today
...a piece of V mail in which everything but the salutation "Dear Mary" had been blocked out and on which the censoring officer had written, "I long for you tragically. R. O. Shipman, Chaplain, U.S. Army."
Sabathia
needs to quit bitin’ our name. CC is for Camden Chat, sucka!
(they shouldn’t let old white men read The Boondocks)
Has there ever been a cooler Oriole than Eddie Murray? I mean, just straight up cool. Like a bad, suave dude. You know what I'm sayin'. COOL. SC 7/24/08
One more via BBTF
http://keitholbermann.mlblogs.com/archives/2010/0/so_good_to_see_buck_showalter.html
This makes me like Buck somewhere around four-hundred thousand and sixty-six times more.
...a piece of V mail in which everything but the salutation "Dear Mary" had been blocked out and on which the censoring officer had written, "I long for you tragically. R. O. Shipman, Chaplain, U.S. Army."
fixy linky
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
I'm supposed to believe
that participants in ML sports mislead the sports news media?
OMG. My faith is shaken. I’m having an epistemological crisis.
I’d sooner believe there was difference between a duck.
Has there ever been a cooler Oriole than Eddie Murray? I mean, just straight up cool. Like a bad, suave dude. You know what I'm sayin'. COOL. SC 7/24/08
by 33 on Sep 7, 2010 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions
i left Keith a small comment regarding this.
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
You tell 'im, zk!
Loved it!
Has there ever been a cooler Oriole than Eddie Murray? I mean, just straight up cool. Like a bad, suave dude. You know what I'm sayin'. COOL. SC 7/24/08
by 33 on Sep 7, 2010 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions
That was awesome, man
"That's what I want to see tomorrow. Do we understand what the f--- I want to see tomorrow? Let's go eat a g-d d--n snack."- Rex Ryan
I love KO but he's a bit of of a whiner sometimes
This would be one of those times.
It’s a funny anecdote and it would have been cool if he had told it that way as opposed to portraying it as some kind of backstabbing deception. Keith should be honored to be part of a long fabric of sports writers who were manipulated by managers/coaches.
Check out more of my highlights at dailymotion.com/gatecitycanes
Liked this in the Power Rankings
2. Rays (1): Dropping two of three to the Orioles isn’t nearly as embarrassing now as it would have been a month or two ago, but it’s still not something a team that hopes to win the AL East should be doing.
Rub some $100 bills on it, you sell-out. -duck
at least somebody has noticed we're actually getting better
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Sep 7, 2010 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions
You mean every series against the Orioles isn't a guaranteed sweep
like MFY and PHN sports writers seem to think.
The stache is back!
by Knubles and Bits on Sep 7, 2010 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions
insert question mark.
The stache is back!
by Knubles and Bits on Sep 7, 2010 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm off of my game.
Stupid “vacations”.
The stache is back!
by Knubles and Bits on Sep 7, 2010 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions
hey
there was speculation you might want in on our “pick ’em” pool. see below.
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
what about daveh and wieterswieners?
there were several folks in the thread that said they wanted to play. 4 people isn’t so great for this sorta thing.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Sep 7, 2010 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions
I know, I know.
two people from the original thread haven’t signed up yet. And I don’t know where daveh and WW are….they’ve been silent on the matter.
We gotta get 8-10 I think.
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
I'll email some of my friends and see if they're interested
You can't just walk over us. -Brian Matusz
I'm right here
but I dont gamble real money. I’m far too poor for that kinda thing. I like my bets to be of the bobblehead variety.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
Consider me in.
I’ll handle the paypal and sign up stuff as soon as I’m out of class.
The stache is back!
by Knubles and Bits on Sep 7, 2010 12:57 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
good show
ask your friends if they wanna join too. i was kinda hoping for 20 people
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Sep 7, 2010 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions
seriously.
20 people would rock. it’d be nice to get a big jackpot.
best part of it is, folks who don’t win the whole thing can still win most of their entry fee back by placing first for a couple of weeks.
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
in reality, its going to be a losing proposition for all but one person tho
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
pshh
its on like donkey kong
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
or southwest airlines
depending on who you ask
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
yea...3 day weekends kill me
don’t really want to be at work today. been completely absent-minded all morning. i blame the commute.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Sep 7, 2010 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions
LAST CHANCE TO JOIN CC PICK'EM POOL
First week’s picks are due this coming Thursday!
To join:
- Send $50 via PayPal to zknower at earthlink dot net
- Go to http://camdenpick.football.cbssports.com/e
- Enter password: 26buck
For more info, visit this story and/or send me an email at the address above.
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
i joined up
how do i create a paypal account? never used it before.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Sep 7, 2010 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions
I'll send you a link.
Just use a credit card and pay an extra 1.50 to cover the fees. PayPal involves tethering (and verifying) a bank account.
Should I use your yahoo account to send the link? Or something else. Email me if you want me to change it.
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
yea...i'll just use the card
yahoo account is fine for emails. i don’t have it linked up to my phone so unless i actually check the inbox, i don’t notice i have any emails
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Sep 7, 2010 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions
never mind
I see your email in the Pool, I’ll send it to that.
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
CBS makes it sound like all picks
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Sep 7, 2010 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions
entire week.
Each week, all picks are due before first game.
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
That pretty rough, especially with how often theres thursday night games now
a lot can change between thursday night and sunday morning that could affect a pick.
I can change it
to “one hour before day’s first game”. I don’t think there are that many Thursdays, but happy to make the change.
Would that work?
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
yes please
somebody could easily get hurt on a thursday or friday practice. or if you’re ben roethlisberger, you could be suspended on said thursday or friday.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Sep 7, 2010 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions
done.
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
merci
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Sep 7, 2010 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions
are you serious?
i hate thursday nite games. the first week is one thing but the remainder of the season is another.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Sep 7, 2010 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions
i think i usually pretended the thursday nite game didnt exist
and went bar hopping instead.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Sep 7, 2010 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions
oh and i'm pretty sure the thursday nite games were december only
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Sep 7, 2010 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions
The Thursday night games tend to start up when college football vacates that night.
I think that’s the case, anyway. Or was the case when they started doing the Thursday thing.
It's as if every eccentric in the South decided to move north, ran out of gas in Baltimore, and decided to stay. - John Waters
by Eat More Esskay on Sep 7, 2010 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions
Typically
have started with Thanksgiving in the past I think. But they’ve been starting earlier the past few years, now I think it’s all of November.
"Believe me, I know the save rule and, quite frankly, it doesn’t carry much weight with me. I like the win rule a little bit better."
by organizedchaos52 on Sep 7, 2010 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions
ugh, seriously?
that’s a change. they used to only do thurs night games in december.
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
2008 and 2009 both had games starting at the 2nd thursday of November
2006 and 2007 both had games starting the 2nd to last thursday of November
I guess they've been creeping it forward every year.
I HATE the thursday night games. hate ’em.
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
Of course it just now occurred to me that the first games in '06 and '07
were the Thanksgiving night game. But the schedules still been expanded to the beginning of november since 2008
picks this week are tough
tampa and cleveland? chicago and detroit? damn
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Sep 7, 2010 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions
Week 1 picks
are always difficult, regardless of how terrible the teams are.
Also, I’m not in the league, so I’d go Tampa and Chicago, although both may depend on where the games are played.
"Believe me, I know the save rule and, quite frankly, it doesn’t carry much weight with me. I like the win rule a little bit better."
by organizedchaos52 on Sep 7, 2010 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions
I like that NY Times Buck article
Several lines that made me feel fuzzy.
"You can’t just walk over us," said the left-hander Brian Matusz, who worked six innings to win his fourth start in a row. "We’re playing good baseball right now. We’re doing all the little things right. It’s fun to come out and beat teams in our division and continue this streak that we have."
The Orioles, with 13 losing seasons in a row, would envy having the decision of whether Showalter can lead them to the finish line. They just want to get back in the race. If nothing else, they are interesting and relevant again. Happier, too.
"It’s been fun," Showalter said, "to watch them smile and feel good."
Luke and Felix are good for the soul. -33
Maybe this is the feeling
I was amazed by earlier.
Relevance.
Has there ever been a cooler Oriole than Eddie Murray? I mean, just straight up cool. Like a bad, suave dude. You know what I'm sayin'. COOL. SC 7/24/08
by 33 on Sep 7, 2010 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions
God damn it, I love Brian Matusz.
I'm hurt dog! Don't ask if me if I'm alright, hell naw! We said dominate and we not doing it! I put my heart into this s***, let's go man! - Ed Reed
by BaltimoreSportsFan on Sep 7, 2010 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Keep fueling AJ's anger, Buck
So he can go out there and shove it down their throats.
No, wait, that was Matt Garza…
At any rate, maybe getting Adam a little steamed will help his game.
The Rockies call up Jay Payton
via Hardball Talk
Opening line:
Hell, they’ve already got Melvin Mora on the team, so why not call up Jay Payton?
You can't just walk over us. -Brian Matusz
sounds like a playoff team to me!
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
getting the old gang back together!
I've been playing baseball since I was six years old, so that's 40 years I've been on a baseball field and around a baseball field, and so our opinions are formulated through facts, not fiction, not their little chat room jargon.
NL basball:
Making winners out of players that weren’t even good enough to stay with the O’s
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
like brian burres?
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
Andy Pettitte's rehab to take place during Trenton's playoff game
I know that the farm system is there to serve the big league team, but it just seems so unfair to the kids playing in the minors to be going to the playoffs and have to play against Andy freaking Pettitte (or, in the case of the Baysox last year, pitch against Travis Hafner).
link
You can't just walk over us. -Brian Matusz
brad bergesen'd
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
I think the line drive in the shin might be the whammy. :)
It's as if every eccentric in the South decided to move north, ran out of gas in Baltimore, and decided to stay. - John Waters
by Eat More Esskay on Sep 7, 2010 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Joe Sheehan vs. Tom Verducci
This article just appeared on cnnsi
How to fix MLB’s playoff system
This article appeared at mid-season at cnnsi
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The midseason spate of injuries proves to be too much to overcome for the Sox, who fall to eight games out in August before getting everyone healthy and making a push over the last six weeks. Their final mark of 94-68 would lead every division in baseball but their own. With the three best records in baseball all posted by AL East teams, and every advanced tool backing up the idea that these are the three best teams in the game, what analysts have been saying for years has now come to fruition: The real problem MLB faces is three great teams in one division, when even a wild-card won’t assure that the best teams make the playoffs. The Red Sox, 94-68 while facing one of the game’s toughest schedules, go home; the Tigers, 86-77 against one of the weakest, move on. With one of the game’s flagship franchises caught on the wrong side of the problem, calls for changes to league structures, scheduling practices and playoff formats increase throughout the offseason.
by drj on Sep 7, 2010 2:11 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
cry me a fucking river Saux fans
Whaaaaaa! We aren’t good enough to compete with those bullies from Tampa….Let’s change the rules!
"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." ~ The Dude
um...
The Red Sox, 94-68 while facing one of the game’s toughest schedules, go home; the Tigers, 86-77 against one of the weakest, move on.
Try, the Red Sox are actually 77-61, and there are four teams in the AL with better records (and a fifth—Texas—has a comparable record despite their recent spate of injuries).
Injuries happen to every team. Get. over. it. If you don’t want to have injuries, stop signing so many overpriced free agents in their 30s and start developing younger players again.
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
The writer was prognosticating. He was guessing the Saux would finish 94-68, but still end up in 3rd place.
And this would cause such a fit amongst the apologists of the PHN that they would demand changes to playoff structure, etc. And he was correct. Hence, the Verducci article.
"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." ~ The Dude
That's what I thought, too
But why choose the Tigers as the other example? They are currently in third place and under .500. I can’t read the whole thing, though, because I keep getting an error message when I click it.
You can't just walk over us. -Brian Matusz
The original article was from June. The Tigers were plausible at the time.
"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." ~ The Dude
and by 'June', of course, I meant July 7th.
"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." ~ The Dude
I know he was prognosticating.
He was just ridiculously wrong. His whole point was that the Bosox would be the third best tam in the majors and it would be a gross injustice that they missed the playoffs.
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
I dont actually hate the idea of adding a wild card
But i’d hate to do it just to appease Red Sox fans, and a 1 game playoff sounds stupid.
DIng-ding-ding!
"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.
another wildcard would be funny tho
you’d have to add two extra teams into the playoffs if you did that
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
Well, what Verducci is calling for is a sort of 'Wild-Card play in game'
Where the 2 non-division winning teams with the best records play a 1 game playoff to determine who goes on to ALDS
"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." ~ The Dude
yea thats retarded
although i could actually see the red sox losing that game to several other teams in the AL. it’d be mostly based on who’s got the best single starting pitcher
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I think you could do 5 teams
Division winners get byes, and the two wildcard teams play each other in a opening round. You’d probably have to cut the championship series down to 5 games to keep it roughly on the same schedule, which I’m sure MLB has no desire to do. I could see a 3-5-5-7, or 3-3-7-7 if they really wanted to keep the CS at 7 games.
A 6 team playoff is better, but 12/30 is a little too high of a ratio for my tastes (though 8/30 feels too low). I love the NFL’s playoff system at least as far as qualifying, 12/32 feels like a good middle ground between baseball and the NBA/NHL, where it feels like almost everyone makes the postseason.
I've always wanted to watch baseball on Thanksgiving
"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." ~ The Dude
by PBR me ASAP! on Sep 7, 2010 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
the NHL is wicked competitive tho
the 6/7/8 teams in each conference are usually decided in the last game or two. granted, those three teams are usually a good step below the 1-4 teams, but i still think its much more competitive than it gets in baseball.
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Even if the competition for the last spots are really competitive
having more than 50% of a league make the playoffs seems pointless to me. If you’re good enough to deserve a shot at a championship, you should be able to finish better than average in the regular season
i think it has a lot to do with the way the divisions are set up
the “crappy” playoff teams out west could be division leaders in the east. they’re just avoiding the problem the red sox are complaining about and, to be honest, it works especially since the competition in hockey is so even.
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Damnit
I was just about to post how low seeds seem to me to upset high seeds with more regularity than any other league. Although that could just be this past year’s playoffs sticking out more in my mind (a 7 vs 8 conference final may have something to do with that.
And if low seeds are winning, rather than giving high seeds a “bye” with a 4 game sweep, then I have nothing against their inclusion in the postseason.
"Believe me, I know the save rule and, quite frankly, it doesn’t carry much weight with me. I like the win rule a little bit better."
by organizedchaos52 on Sep 7, 2010 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions
yea i was just searching for the statistic when i actually had to do some real work
i’ll find it eventually. i’m almost positive the NHL number for low seeds upsetting higher seeds is higher than the MLB. its not a very good stat tho, considering that MLB playoffs are 1 vs 4 rather than 1v8.
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I read
that there have been 7 upsets by 8 seeds in the first round since 1994 (not the greatest source though). 7 out of 34 series wins is good enough for me. You could also check 1 vs 4 by looking at the 2nd round, as I’m sure there have been plenty of playoff trees in which there were no first round upsets.
"Believe me, I know the save rule and, quite frankly, it doesn’t carry much weight with me. I like the win rule a little bit better."
by organizedchaos52 on Sep 7, 2010 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Using wiki
I went through every playoff in the NHL since ’94.
32 of each series:
8 seed wins 9 times, 1 seed wins 23 times
7 seed wins 15 times, 2 seed wins 17 times
6 seed wins 13 times, 3 seed wins 19 times
5 seed wins 10 times, 4 seed wins 22 times
Don’t have time to go through and break down the other possible match-ups, especially since these are pretty small samples and the other match-ups will be smaller still.
"Believe me, I know the save rule and, quite frankly, it doesn’t carry much weight with me. I like the win rule a little bit better."
by organizedchaos52 on Sep 7, 2010 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd rather give the byes to the highest records than the division winners
Under the system you describe, if the season ended today it’d be the Yankees (86-52), Twins (81-57), and Rangers (75-62) as the Division winners and the Rays (83-54) and White Sox (77-60) as the wild cards. So the White Sox would play the Rays even though the Twins have less wins than the Rays and the Rangers have less wins than both the Rays and Twins. if you have the Rangers play the White Sox then it’s better, IMO.
Of course I think you’d also have to get rid of the unbalanced schedule so that 95 wins means the same in every division. But I could ultimately get behind that. It allows the divisional rivals to remain but still rewards the teams with the best records. At least until you run into a situation where the Yankees, Rays, Red Sox, and Orioles all have better records than the first place team in the AL Central or something. But nothing’s perfect.
You can't just walk over us. -Brian Matusz
Well the soccer fan in me would just have the whole league go single table
Contract 2 teams (No one watches the marlins anyway, and does southern california really need 3 teams?), play each team home and away for 3 games which would still leave you with 162 games. Top 8 make the playoffs. Can’t get any more balanced than that.
yea...nobody goes to padres games anyways
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
I think they should have contracted Montreal (instead of moving to WAS) and Tampa Bay
That was before the Rays had ever been good, so there wouldn’t have been a huge loss at that point. That would have been the best option for getting rid of one franchise that wasn’t viable in its current location and one franchise that was just always terrible.
But I think it’s well known that Bud Selig would never do that because he’ll never admit to having made a mistake with the last round of expansion.
Anyway, that would have made the numbers work out nicely, but it’s all just a pipe dream.
It's as if every eccentric in the South decided to move north, ran out of gas in Baltimore, and decided to stay. - John Waters
by Eat More Esskay on Sep 7, 2010 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions
i'd rather have both the nationals and the devil rays
than the diamondbacks
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
oakland is also kinda redundant
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
Another problem with my suggestion of wiping out one in each league is that you have to have a league switch team also
Which I don’t see anybody agree to do unless another wuss team takes the escape from the AL to the NL. Kansas City might be thinking, “Hey, the Brewers got a pretty good deal…”
It's as if every eccentric in the South decided to move north, ran out of gas in Baltimore, and decided to stay. - John Waters
by Eat More Esskay on Sep 7, 2010 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions
well my proposal would essentially wipe out seperate leagues entirely
so really it wouldnt matter who you contract
you'd have to eliminate the DH too
that’ll piss off a ton of AL teams….i’d bet on the yankees and the red sox would lead the protest on that one
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
i dunno
i kinda like the pitchers hitting. you’d close the gap between the AL and NL really fast without it. also, what do you do with all of those DH-only players in the AL/NL teams getting a DH would still be at a disadvantage since that league doesnt have as many DH-only players (yea i know the NL doesnt have a DH, but guys like adrian gonzalez and adam dunn would make better DHs than 1Bs)
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
Or you could keep the DH and have the NL teams use it.
I'm hurt dog! Don't ask if me if I'm alright, hell naw! We said dominate and we not doing it! I put my heart into this s***, let's go man! - Ed Reed
by BaltimoreSportsFan on Sep 7, 2010 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Just go to 26 man rosters
and no DH. That way every team has one more “hitter” to use and no DH actually loses his job. The key here is the players union would go for it.
hmmmm, but that's 30 more players who will be making a major league salary instead of a minor league salary...
The clubs would not be happy with that.
I've been playing baseball since I was six years old, so that's 40 years I've been on a baseball field and around a baseball field, and so our opinions are formulated through facts, not fiction, not their little chat room jargon.
Lol optimism.
I can’t wait until this
At least until you run into a situation where the Yankees, Rays, Red Sox, and Orioles all have better records than the first place team in the AL Centralis true. Thank you Buck.
"Believe me, I know the save rule and, quite frankly, it doesn’t carry much weight with me. I like the win rule a little bit better."
by organizedchaos52 on Sep 7, 2010 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Ugh....
Attempting to talk sense into my Saux fan friend, who is adamant that Tito Francona should win the Manager of the Year award (I know, I know, it doesn’t mean anything to some of you out there. You don’t need to tell me) because of how he handled the team in spite of all their injuries. I make an argument for Bud Black or Dusty Baker being more deserving candidates and he pulls out the ‘quit hatin on the Sox / we own you anyway / Fenway south’ bullshit.
I eagerly await his retort when we take the next series from them.
"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." ~ The Dude
is that a haiku?
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
I was just thinking about how to construct it into one....
"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." ~ The Dude
Sox haters go home
pink hat nation always wins!
Oops. Except this year.
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
thanks, shakespeare
next thing you know, we’ll have sonnets here……
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
So I was at Saturday's game
and at the game yesterday in NYC, and I can’t imagine there is a more self satisfied baseball fan than me right now. My entertainment dollar exploded in my pocket. If you had told me I would feel this good in June, I’m pretty sure I wouldn’t have believed you.
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