World Series Game 1: Texas Rangers @ St. Louis Cardinals, 8:05 PM
by Stacey on Oct 19, 2011 8:00 PM EDT
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Lineups:
Texas Rangers
Ian Kinsler - 2B
Elvis Andrus - SS
Josh Hamilton - CF
Michael Young - 1B
Adrian Beltre - 3B
Nelson Cruz - RF
Mike Napoli - C
David Murphy - LF
C.J. Wilson - P
St. Louis Cardinals
Rafael Furcal - SS
Jon Jay - CF
Albert Pujols- 1B
Matt Holliday - LF
Lance Berkman - RF
David Freese - 3B
Yadier Molina - C
Nick Punto - 2B
Chris Carpenter - P
WOO HOO! PITCHERS BATTING!
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Maybe they think they have to act like the NL in an NL park.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Oct 19, 2011 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions
that happened two seconds after I mocked the Cardinals for playing Kinsler to bunt
just because he’s the leadoff hitter.
Giraffes have absurdly strong necks.
Hit and run fail.
I’m not impressed, Ron Washington.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Oct 19, 2011 8:09 PM EDT reply actions
So who are we all rooting for?
GO CARDINALS!
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by WestcoastO'sFan on Oct 19, 2011 8:25 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Texas
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by Stacey on Oct 19, 2011 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
annoying Texans or no, I gotta root for the team with no WS titles
Giraffes have absurdly strong necks.
I started to dislike the Cards after they knocked my Mets out of the '07 LCS
But I’m gonna hold my nose and root for St. Louis anyway.
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by WestcoastO'sFan on Oct 19, 2011 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Really?
I dislike basically every AL team because the Orioles play them. I am trained to root against the AL.
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by WestcoastO'sFan on Oct 19, 2011 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions
I dislike the Yanks/Boston
There isn’t really another AL team I just can’t stand. Most I couldn’t care less about.
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by Wieters Wieners on Oct 19, 2011 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions
eh.
I still don’t like CLE, CHW, ANA, OAK, TEX, KC, or TOR.
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by WestcoastO'sFan on Oct 19, 2011 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions
You must be an angry man to dislike KC, OAK, CLE...
I don’t see how those teams could be anything other than neutral.
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by Wieters Wieners on Oct 19, 2011 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, OAK is personal, my best friend is an A's fan.
CLE was both racist and they played the M’s in the playoffs a lot, so I grew to dislike them.
I root against KC b/c I don’t want any shitty teams to get better before we do.
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by WestcoastO'sFan on Oct 19, 2011 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Nah, it's my league. Also, it's the better league.
I hate pitchers batting and double switches and bunting in the second inning and all that shit. The only AL teams I really root against are NYY and BOS.
Giraffes have absurdly strong necks.
I love all that stuff.
The DH is a stupid rule that let’s fatass old pieces of shit like David Ortiz play in a game meant for athletes.
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by WestcoastO'sFan on Oct 19, 2011 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions
The National League
plays the game the way it was intended to be played.
Say no to Prince Fielder in 2012.
by Knubles and Bits on Oct 19, 2011 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions
You may very well be making fun of me.
But I agree with that point.
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by WestcoastO'sFan on Oct 19, 2011 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm not.
I’m agreeing.
Say no to Prince Fielder in 2012.
by Knubles and Bits on Oct 19, 2011 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions
ok, wasn't sure if there was sarcasm font there or not.
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by WestcoastO'sFan on Oct 19, 2011 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, if that was the point we'd still be using peach baskets in the NBA.
With the referee going up and down the ladder to retrieve the ball.
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by Wieters Wieners on Oct 19, 2011 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Wasn't it also intended to be played by whites only?
And with the pitcher throwing under hand or some shit?
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by O'sFan21 on Oct 19, 2011 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Come on, how did my peach basket example get no love!
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by Wieters Wieners on Oct 19, 2011 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Thanks for joining in with hyperbolic sacrasm.
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by WestcoastO'sFan on Oct 19, 2011 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes, and I said I liked one thing related to tradition.
And therefore I like all things related to tradition. I assume that is the line you were drawing.
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by WestcoastO'sFan on Oct 19, 2011 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Because K+B was clearly saying we should go back to playing baseball like in 1873.
Yes, I realize that comment is hyperbolic sarcasm.
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by WestcoastO'sFan on Oct 19, 2011 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions
No seriously it wasn't.
There’s lots of stupid shit that’s been dumped from the originally intended rules of baseball over the years – the pitcher hitting should be one of them.
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How?
It makes the game more tight knit, it makes every choice the manager makes more exciting. It turns it back into a game of inches.
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by WestcoastO'sFan on Oct 19, 2011 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions
haha to quote an IM that my bf just sent me
“watching pitchers strike out on a bunt foul third strike. Baseball at its finest!”
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Couldn't agree more.
The NL totally blows.
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by Wieters Wieners on Oct 19, 2011 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
In 14 seasons, Carpenter is a career .118 hitter.
Who the fuck wants to watch that?
A CAREER OPS of .295 in 433 ABs!
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by Wieters Wieners on Oct 19, 2011 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Because he is also a much better pitcher than the shit that every AL team has.
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by WestcoastO'sFan on Oct 19, 2011 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions
WHAT
Yeah Justin Verlander and CC Sabathia suck compared to him.
Giraffes have absurdly strong necks.
Not only that, but how is any of this relevant?
I’m not saying the guy shouldn’t be pitching.
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by Wieters Wieners on Oct 19, 2011 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't get it.
I thought we were talking about pitcher’s hitting.
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by Wieters Wieners on Oct 19, 2011 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm saying that good pitching is more exctiting than good hitting.
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by WestcoastO'sFan on Oct 19, 2011 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions
So you are saying that the NL is equal to the AL in excitment level?
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by WestcoastO'sFan on Oct 19, 2011 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions
No
I’m saying in the AL you can have both because the shitty pitchers aren’t batting.
Giraffes have absurdly strong necks.
Not really.
Because of the AL always has more shitty pitchers. We all know one league is the pitching league and the other is the hitting league.
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by WestcoastO'sFan on Oct 19, 2011 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah
One league has good pitching because they can pitch around people to get to the shitty pitchers that are hitting and then get almost an automatic out.
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by Wieters Wieners on Oct 19, 2011 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions
And one league has shitty pitching because some fatass with no knees is juicing and hitting home runs.
Basically both leagues have been polarized, so pick one. There is no middle ground.
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by WestcoastO'sFan on Oct 19, 2011 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah
But Papi is still a good hitter when he goes to the NL. An average NL pitcher goes to the AL and gets blazed.
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by Wieters Wieners on Oct 19, 2011 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Big Papi stops playing when he goes to the NL.
That or loses all of this strength in his legs.
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by WestcoastO'sFan on Oct 19, 2011 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions
But again, that has nothing to do with it.
We aren’t talking defense here or even rules that technically would keep him from playing (not being able to field a position). We’re talking about could he hit their pitching equally, I believe so. But could Kyle Lohse come over to the AL and be effective, I doubt it.
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by Wieters Wieners on Oct 19, 2011 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions
I would argue that
all of his ability to hit is directly correlated to the rest he gets and the focus he puts only on hitting and not on fielding. He would last maybe a year in the NL before flaming out.
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by WestcoastO'sFan on Oct 19, 2011 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions
You take the same exact pitcher
Who is good in the NL, you send him to the AL and his ERA goes up. He didn’t become a shitty pitcher, he went to a league that can hit.
Giraffes have absurdly strong necks.
Or AL general managers
Focused all their energies towards hitting and 2 good pitchers, knowing that the back of the rotation doesn’t matter because they can just win a slugfest, while NL gms groom 1-5 rotations where the 3rd or 4th starter could be 2nd starter on an AL team.
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by WestcoastO'sFan on Oct 19, 2011 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions
I refuse to discuss any further the merits of a rule
that facilitates Nick Punto getting IBB’d.
Giraffes have absurdly strong necks.
It was almost as if the logic gods said "here, use this".
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by Wieters Wieners on Oct 19, 2011 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions
And yet CJ Wilson is getting beat up by a NL team.
And Chris Carpenter is shutting down an AL team.
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by WestcoastO'sFan on Oct 19, 2011 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions
HAHAHHAHA
“beat up”
One of the better offensive teams in baseball have scored two runs in 4 innings while giving up only 3 hits.
You should check the definition of “beat up”.
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by Wieters Wieners on Oct 19, 2011 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions
4.50 ERA
Ok, not “beat up” but close.
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by WestcoastO'sFan on Oct 19, 2011 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions
"beat up" is a little bit of a stretch
and you know as well as anyone that one game doesn’t mean anything.
Giraffes have absurdly strong necks.
You were saying.
One game doesn’t mean anything. My comment was not valid.
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by WestcoastO'sFan on Oct 19, 2011 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions
can't believe washington walked punto
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
I mean, come on...
Career .118 hitter in 433 ABs.
You really think we should have to watch that nonsense.
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by Wieters Wieners on Oct 19, 2011 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions
But you'd seriously prefer some douche up there flailing at a 94 MPH fastball he can't catch up with than Big Papi?
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by Wieters Wieners on Oct 19, 2011 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions
And no I'm not talking about Vlad.
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by Wieters Wieners on Oct 19, 2011 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions
If you changed the DH rule entirely all pitchers would end up hitting better.
Lot’s of HS / College pitchers are good hitters. It would force pitchers to stay in better shape and they would know they had to work on hitting since there wouldn’t be the choice of going to a league where you don’t have to hit.
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by WestcoastO'sFan on Oct 19, 2011 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions
That's not true
Pitchers all used to hit before the DH rule. they weren’t good then, either.
Giraffes have absurdly strong necks.
They were better.
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by WestcoastO'sFan on Oct 19, 2011 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Also, were they better enough to matter?
Because “shitty” and “less shitty” are still both terrible
Giraffes have absurdly strong necks.
Bad wording for sure.
Closer margins of victory.
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by WestcoastO'sFan on Oct 19, 2011 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Is that really true?
I mean it sounds nice and maybe possible since teams are worse at hitting and with fewer runs scored I would assume the games might be closer, but I’d like to see some evidence of that.
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It adds a significant amount if strategy to the game.
The DH may be exciting, but it takes away a big part of the game.
Say no to Prince Fielder in 2012.
by Knubles and Bits on Oct 19, 2011 8:56 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I want to see hitters hit and pitchers pitch.
It’d be the same as if every 9th batter an opposing hitter had to come in and pitch. Just dumb.
And yeah, the excruciating pitching changes slow down and already pretty slow paced game.
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by Wieters Wieners on Oct 19, 2011 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions
We'll have to agree to disagree.
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by Knubles and Bits on Oct 19, 2011 9:00 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
"the excruciating pitching changes slow down"
Because an AL game between the Red Sox and Yankees, with their powerhouse offenses and quick pitching changes goes so much faster?
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by WestcoastO'sFan on Oct 19, 2011 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, but you are bringing up the most extreme AL example.
The NL deals with it league-wide on a nightly basis.
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by Wieters Wieners on Oct 19, 2011 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Is there really that much of a difference?
Doesn’t that just have more to do with TV breaks getting longer and longer? A shitty AL team will change pitchers just as often as a decent NL team anyway.
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by WestcoastO'sFan on Oct 19, 2011 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Isn't that the point?
Decent NL teams are changing pitchers as much as the shitty Orioles because they have to pitch around that stupid hole in the lineup.
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by Wieters Wieners on Oct 19, 2011 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't really care about the time
I don’t even know that it’s a factor. I just hate watching it.
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I wasn't necessarily saying the time either.
It just slows the pace of the game to a crawl late in games.
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by Wieters Wieners on Oct 19, 2011 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions
That happens in every game with teams playing matchups anyway.
AL teams still use 3 pitchers in an inning late in a game.
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by WestcoastO'sFan on Oct 19, 2011 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions
You are seriously just cheering against a state?
If I mixed my politics with my sports, I’d be a very torn individual.
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by Wieters Wieners on Oct 19, 2011 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions
That, and I just don't like the team.
Hamilton is a douche, Washington is a douche. As a part time Mariner fan I have grown to hate the Rangers. Also 30-3.
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by WestcoastO'sFan on Oct 19, 2011 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions
How the heck is Hamilton a douche?
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by Wieters Wieners on Oct 19, 2011 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions
How the heck is Washington a douche?
"Tragedy is what happens to me. Comedy is what happens to you." -Mel Brooks
He hates people that admit they made mistakes and try and turn their life around.
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by Wieters Wieners on Oct 19, 2011 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
As opposed to Tony La Russa and Chris Carpenter?
Those guys fit the douche profile to a tee.
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What you see as a douche, I might not.
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by WestcoastO'sFan on Oct 19, 2011 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions
It's not the politics that bugs me
It’s how they run around with their flags constantly shoving it in your face that they’re Texas. WE GET IT.
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I think they have a pretty likable team.
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by Wieters Wieners on Oct 19, 2011 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions
the team I like
it’s the fans I take issue with. Same for the Rays.
Giraffes have absurdly strong necks.
I can see that
Do you think Hamilton is a douche? I think he’s a good guy, who has just been brutally honest about mistakes he’s made in his personal life, and for the most part has been a feel good redemption story.
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by Wieters Wieners on Oct 19, 2011 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't think he's a douche
Seems all right to me. Jesus stuff doesn’t bother me though, it does a lot of people.
Giraffes have absurdly strong necks.
It obviously bothers me
but not that much about him. I tend to give addicts a pass on shit like that if it helps them stay clean (or if they think it helps them stay clean).
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I'm rooting for Arthur Rhodes
and he already won so . . .
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by Knubles and Bits on Oct 19, 2011 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions
He's a big reason I'm rooting for the Cards
I don’t want him to get the sympathy ring.
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They are intentionally walking NICK PUNTO to get to Carpenter
Yes, that’s FABULOUS baseball. Fucking NL.
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by Stacey on Oct 19, 2011 9:19 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Exactly the point.
So C.J. MIGHT have given up an extra run or two here had he been facing a normal hitter, but was easily able to get out of it and preserve his stats on three straight strikes to a .118 hitter.
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by Wieters Wieners on Oct 19, 2011 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions
The National League: Where IBBing Nick Punto happens.
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by Wieters Wieners on Oct 19, 2011 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions
From KLaw on Twitter
An intentional walk of Nick Punto should trigger an automatic rule change to force the NL to use the DH.
Giraffes have absurdly strong necks.
CARPENTER is getting LIT THE FUCK UP by the RANGERS!!!
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by Wieters Wieners on Oct 19, 2011 9:28 PM EDT reply actions
ERA now 4.15!!!!
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by Wieters Wieners on Oct 19, 2011 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Still better than CJ Wilson
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by WestcoastO'sFan on Oct 19, 2011 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, Carpenter IS a much better pitcher than C.J. Wilson
He is absolutely one of the best in baseball. I don’t deny that. I don’t want to watch his career .118 automatic ass come up to the plate and allow opposing pitchers to IBB Punto to take advantage of that.
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by Wieters Wieners on Oct 19, 2011 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions
See, no middle ground.
Fruitless debate, dogmatic talking points going both ways. You like to see hitting, I like to see pitching. We both like to see the Orioles who like to do neither of those things. As I see it we have almost nothing left to fight over.
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by WestcoastO'sFan on Oct 19, 2011 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions
And I say your premise that pitching is better in the NL is flawed
because it’s not.
Giraffes have absurdly strong necks.
You have to at least admit that the NL
has a more traditional, pitching and defense, based approach that warrants more use of strategy within the game.
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by WestcoastO'sFan on Oct 19, 2011 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Sure it's more traditional
But not all traditions are worth preserving. Especially not one that favors giving away outs because your batters are incapable of hitting the ball.
Giraffes have absurdly strong necks.
I just prefer the more intense use of strategy.
As opposed to the basketball approach of a back and forth shootout.
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by WestcoastO'sFan on Oct 19, 2011 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Like Helen Mirren?
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by Wieters Wieners on Oct 19, 2011 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions
(also a joke, westie!)
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by Wieters Wieners on Oct 19, 2011 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Hey, I more than made up for that with my Hiedi posts!
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by WestcoastO'sFan on Oct 19, 2011 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Is it really more strategic
to pinch-hit for a tired pitcher (i.e., can’t pitch anymore and can’t hit to begin with, so is now essentially useless) than to pinch-hit for your glove-first shortstop (can kinda hit and can definitely field, so you might regret losing his glove) in the late innings? The NL may have managers making more in-game moves, but it doesn’t really mean it’s more strategic.
"Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs." -- Earl Weaver
You've been drinking haven't you?
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by Wieters Wieners on Oct 19, 2011 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions
(chug, chug, chug)
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by Wieters Wieners on Oct 19, 2011 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions
That would make sense.
Except that most AL teams go all out on hitting and other than a few select teams they don’t have those glove first type of players, they just vault through all 9 with their best hitters other than the occasional pinch runner. So sure the venue for strategy is still there but the impetus isn’t.
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by WestcoastO'sFan on Oct 19, 2011 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Is this really true?
We had Izturis as our SS for 2 years in the AL East for god’s sake.
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Yes, we are also the worst team in the American League.
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by WestcoastO'sFan on Oct 19, 2011 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions
False
We had more wins than both Seattle AND Minnesota.
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by Wieters Wieners on Oct 19, 2011 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions
haha Yeah, I meant like over the last 14 years.
Or at least when we had Izturis.
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by WestcoastO'sFan on Oct 19, 2011 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions
The only sense in which I think you're right
is that NL teams know it isn’t worth signing an expensive DH type to sit on their bench and hit once a game. On league defense, a few numbers (Andrew may yell at me if I’ve used these wrong):
2011 NL Totals:
DRS: 90
UZR: -41
2011 AL Totals:
DRS: 93
UZR: 41.6
And it’s hard to argue that the NL has less offense because of good pitching and defense when every NL team has a sub-Izturis hitter step to the plate 2-3 times per game.
I’m not going to say that you’re silly for liking the game with pitchers hitting and the like. But I don’t think there’s that big a difference between the NL and the AL in terms of how teams are built – teams in both leagues want the best players they can afford at each position, whether that value comes from offense or defense.
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It's really 3-4 times per game
since the pinch hitters are shitty or else they would be regulars.
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I will admit that the NL has crappier players so it's easier to pitch to them and defend against them.
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by Eat More Esskay on Oct 19, 2011 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions
But that's where you aren't hearing me whatsoever.
I LOVE to see pitching. I just don’t think the NL HAS better pitching. I think the AL has better everything.
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by Wieters Wieners on Oct 19, 2011 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions
I have no idea where you get that the AL actually has BETTER, not equal, but BETTER pitching.
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by WestcoastO'sFan on Oct 19, 2011 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions
This is the part of your argument that doesn't make any sense
You like to see hitting, I like to see pitching.
How would having a DH prevent you from seeing pitching? The only thing it would prevent you from seeing is pitchers who are shitty at hitting attempting to do the thing that they are shitty at.
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Because,
it engineers the whole game towards hitting and so teams focus less and less on their pitching and instead on creating a 9 man lineup that is going to score more as opposed to give up less.
I would be curious to see the spending of NL teams on hitters versus the spending on hitters minus the DH in the AL.
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by WestcoastO'sFan on Oct 19, 2011 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Really? And I think it engineers a whole game toward
having the best competition facing the best competition instead of NL pitchers getting to face an auto-out every time through the lineup.
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So you see nothing wrong with having a guy like Vlad or Papi
playing a sport and yet sitting on a bench all game focusing on just 3 at bats while every other player has to worry about playing 9 in the field and staying in shape.
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by WestcoastO'sFan on Oct 19, 2011 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions
you think CC Sabathia is IN SHAPE?
How about big fat Prince Fielder?
Giraffes have absurdly strong necks.
Babe Ruth was a physical specimen
and he was a pitcher AND a hitter.
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Why do I care about that?
Football players play a sport and sit on the bench for half the game. They do what they are good at.
If you have a problem with DHs, do you have a problem with all pitchers? Starters only appear in one out of every 5 games!!! Relievers pitch at most a couple of innings every few games!!!
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Yes actually.
I would prefer to see fewer relief pitchers and I would like to see starters go deeper into games. The increasing amount of sitting and waiting in this game bothers me.
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by WestcoastO'sFan on Oct 19, 2011 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions
So you want to see starters go deeper, but dislike the DH.
Which by nature, shortens starting pitcher’s outings.
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by Wieters Wieners on Oct 19, 2011 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions
So in your ideal world
Each team would have a 9 man roster where the pitcher pitches every game and bats 9th. Fair enough. Weird as shit, but if that’s your thing that’s your thing.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
I would like to see the game played more like it was played before the DH.
And since you might bring it up: No, I don’t want to re-invade Vietnam and No, I don’t want to un-sign the Civil Rights Act.
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by WestcoastO'sFan on Oct 19, 2011 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah
because comparing going back to the way the game was played in the past is comparable to re-writing US history.
Your argument awful, dude, just admit it.
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by O'sFan21 on Oct 19, 2011 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Haha
I actually like the “argument awful”.
It sounded like a total dis about him being bad at arguing. I dug it.
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by Wieters Wieners on Oct 19, 2011 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions
That last part was a joke dude.
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by WestcoastO'sFan on Oct 19, 2011 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions
I get that it was supposed to be a joke
I just didn’t think it was a good one.
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You could have just said that.
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by WestcoastO'sFan on Oct 19, 2011 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions
And if Carpenter didn't have to bat right there.
He WOULD be going deeper, which is what you said you want. He might even go 2 entire more innings.
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by Wieters Wieners on Oct 19, 2011 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions
It would also have been smarter to let him hit.
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by WestcoastO'sFan on Oct 19, 2011 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions
And you have no problem with guys sitting in the bullpen all night
And just get to stroll in all fat and out of shape and pitch to one guy and not have to hit or play defense. They are specialty positions and should be treated as such.
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by Wieters Wieners on Oct 19, 2011 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions
I can't believe 85% of this thread is someone(s) actually defending NL baseball.
What kind of AL fans are we here? Jesus.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Oct 19, 2011 9:34 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Bwahahhaa.....
And here comes the cavalry.
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by Wieters Wieners on Oct 19, 2011 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm ashamed on behalf of anyone defending a league where IBBs of Nick Punto are par for the course.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Oct 19, 2011 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions
I still don't get why Oriole fan = AL fan
Forgive for not rooting for the enemy.
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by WestcoastO'sFan on Oct 19, 2011 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions
You can be an Oriole fan and a fan of NL Baseball
You’d just be halfway right, though.
"Tragedy is what happens to me. Comedy is what happens to you." -Mel Brooks
by jobe on Oct 19, 2011 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
i've only glanced at the above debate
but i have no problems with nl baseball (duck!).
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
by birdman on Oct 20, 2011 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Wow, that was the first HR by an AL catcher in the WS in a decade.
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by Wieters Wieners on Oct 19, 2011 9:35 PM EDT reply actions
Can't get enough of that Aaron Rodgers Statefarm Ad
"Tragedy is what happens to me. Comedy is what happens to you." -Mel Brooks
RODGERS! DISCOUNT DOUBLECHECK!
Never stops being funny.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Oct 19, 2011 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, its the best.
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by Wieters Wieners on Oct 19, 2011 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Walk Punto again... haha
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by Wieters Wieners on Oct 19, 2011 10:01 PM EDT reply actions
They are totally pitching around him again.
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by Wieters Wieners on Oct 19, 2011 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree WW, it sure looks that way.
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by Wieters Wieners on Oct 19, 2011 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Stupid question:
Just because you are not on the World Series Roster, you still get to be in the dugout, right? If Koji, wants to could he hang around the bullpen and possibly give pointers in broken English.
"Tragedy is what happens to me. Comedy is what happens to you." -Mel Brooks
I think you are limited to drinking beer in the clubhouse
If you look at those UZR ratings or whatever
I hate whenever the term
“both sides of the ball” is used for Baseball.
"Tragedy is what happens to me. Comedy is what happens to you." -Mel Brooks
NL Baseball!
In the most important game of the year, your best pitcher (and one of the best pitchers in baseball) has to come out of the game after throwing only 87 pitches because he’s so fucking awful at hitting that the team can’t risk having him bat in this situation. Awesome!!!!
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Yup, that's what I was saying above.
They intentionally walked Punto twice tonight.
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by Wieters Wieners on Oct 19, 2011 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Totally unrelated
but has anybody seen this? http://kimjongillookingatthings.tumblr.com I’m finding it hilarious.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
I prefer the more traditional South Korea
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by WestcoastO'sFan on Oct 19, 2011 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm partial to
‘Looking at Soy Sprouts’ and ‘Looking at Sausages’.
"Tragedy is what happens to me. Comedy is what happens to you." -Mel Brooks
lol I liked the "Looking at cucumbers"
Why the hell are all those military dudes looking at cucumbers???
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They aren't just looking....
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by Wieters Wieners on Oct 19, 2011 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah.
Matt Taibbi did a Caption Contest for one where Kim is staring at a huge cucumber.
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by PBR me ASAP! on Oct 19, 2011 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Wow..... could've sworn Cruz had that.
That’s a play Nicky is really good at.
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by Wieters Wieners on Oct 19, 2011 10:09 PM EDT reply actions
Sweet, at least three innings of the Cardinals bullpen
with Tony La Russa managing. This game could be longer than the English Patient.
"Tragedy is what happens to me. Comedy is what happens to you." -Mel Brooks
But they play in the NL
I thought that meant the games were faster or something…
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Is Koji really not on the WS roster?
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by Wieters Wieners on Oct 19, 2011 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions
I missed it
That’s fucking horrible.
Seriously makes me sad.
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by Wieters Wieners on Oct 19, 2011 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions
yup, eff the Rangers!
Go Cards. Yeah Yeah LaRussa, but how can you root against Pujols?
If you look at those UZR ratings or whatever
It makes me sad that he got to go to the World Series
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by WestcoastO'sFan on Oct 19, 2011 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Eh
I sort of wish him well – he was good for the O’s when he was healthy. Not his fault we gave him a stupid contract.
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by O'sFan21 on Oct 19, 2011 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah I don't dislike him
At least he didn’t act like a dick when he messed up like another overpriced closer the O’s signed to a two-year deal.
Giraffes have absurdly strong necks.
god damn it why can't that 2nd year just disappear???
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Any chance JJ's closer duties rollover into next year?
I’m keeping my fingers crossed that Buck doesn’t fuck that up for us.
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by WestcoastO'sFan on Oct 19, 2011 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions
As long as they don't try to make him a starter...
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Hopefully, the keeping Gevin Kregg as closer thing
was just Buck’s way of rubbing Andy’s nose in the mess that he made.
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by PBR me ASAP! on Oct 19, 2011 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, they said he was a great guy
Didn’t he buy a punch of the guys that didn’t make as much scrilla suits?
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by Wieters Wieners on Oct 19, 2011 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions
What the fuck are they talking about right now???
There’s never anybody to back up the corner infielders on the lines.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Ron Washington should give Napoli the home run signal, again
like he did in the fifth.
"Tragedy is what happens to me. Comedy is what happens to you." -Mel Brooks
That is the most fucked up last name in the history of last names.
Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn
Awwwwwww.... 36 minutes ago
KojiTranslated Koji Translated
Could you respond to your warm encouragement. I disconnected from the members.
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by Wieters Wieners on Oct 19, 2011 10:21 PM EDT reply actions
And then whatever this meant a minute later...
KojiTranslated Koji Translated
The world’s best hope to become a team, you will go to the stadium today.
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by Wieters Wieners on Oct 19, 2011 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Wait are these real translations?
I don’t get what either of them are supposed to mean. lol
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Koji has a twitter
but it’s in Japanese. So there is another twitter that just runs everything he says through Google translate. It rarely makes sense.
Giraffes have absurdly strong necks.
Yeah, it's like someone directly translates what he is saying...
I don’t think we would really get it unless we spoke Japanese.
They seem sad regardless.
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by Wieters Wieners on Oct 19, 2011 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions
haha
they do seem sad. Nonsensical, but sad.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Does that really qualify as the "high strike"?
That wasn’t even at the belt.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
.455
EAT THAT TED WILLIAMS!
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by Wieters Wieners on Oct 19, 2011 10:26 PM EDT reply actions
Is there any good Wed. TV for after this game?
Other than the Daily Show, isn’t this pretty much the day between SOA and all the comedies on Thursday?
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by WestcoastO'sFan on Oct 19, 2011 10:34 PM EDT reply actions
But this is NL baseball! You want to change the channel??
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
I said "after this game"
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by WestcoastO'sFan on Oct 19, 2011 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions
If you have HBO
you can watch the George Harrison documentary.
"Tragedy is what happens to me. Comedy is what happens to you." -Mel Brooks
wow that guy who won that contest was fucking terrible at throwing
that’s embarrassing.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Hello CC
Looking like a good game so far
by RED SOX are #1 in my heart on Oct 19, 2011 10:47 PM EDT reply actions
Man this old fashioned NL baseball moves so fast!
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
5th pitcher now
No DH and Carpenter would probably still be rolling.
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by Wieters Wieners on Oct 19, 2011 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions
keithlaw keithlaw
One pitcher per batter is great if you prefer commercials to actual baseball
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by Wieters Wieners on Oct 19, 2011 10:50 PM EDT reply actions
Just like the good old days when baseball was pure!
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Fond memories of getting an Orioles Program at a game once as a kid
and finding out that Arthur Rhodes enjoys listening to rap music.
"Tragedy is what happens to me. Comedy is what happens to you." -Mel Brooks
lol
I remember as a kid thinking our bullpen was really cool with Rhodes and his big diamond stud earrings and then Mills with his badass facial hair.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
I remember when Omar V. made Rhodes take his earing off during an AB once, when Rhodes was with Seattle.
One more reason why I never liked Cleveland.
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by WestcoastO'sFan on Oct 19, 2011 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Vizquel is a punk
I like Jose Mesa’s approach to him.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
HAHA, Jose Mesa, classic ballplayer!
Hey, you watch SOA right? Did you watch last night, I haven’t gotten a chance to talk about it with anyone yet and it was def. a “holy shit” episode.
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by WestcoastO'sFan on Oct 19, 2011 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions
I haven't watched yet! It's on the DVR - might watch after the game.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
It's good stuff.
I like this season a lot more than the last one, not that I didn’t like the last one.
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by WestcoastO'sFan on Oct 19, 2011 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Yup.... like he was protecting
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by Wieters Wieners on Oct 19, 2011 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions
What happened?
Sadly, I’m on gameday for this one, it just said on-field delay.
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by WestcoastO'sFan on Oct 19, 2011 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions
He fouled it off his shoe (just barely) and the umpires didn't see it.
To be fair you could barely see it on the super slow-mo heat mapping (whatever the fuck that shit is that they’ve invented for this year) replay.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
I would cheer on the Cards win but I don't want to get banned.
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by WestcoastO'sFan on Oct 19, 2011 11:14 PM EDT reply actions
I'm mildly rooting for the Cards
but mostly because of the Bushes.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
by O'sFan21 on Oct 19, 2011 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Anheuser or George?
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by PBR me ASAP! on Oct 19, 2011 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions
There are plenty of acceptable reasons to root for the Cardinals.
Them being in the NL just isn’t one of them. :p
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Oct 20, 2011 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions
Haha,
I would have rooted for the Tigers.
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by WestcoastO'sFan on Oct 20, 2011 12:20 AM EDT up reply actions
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