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Wieters, Hardy, Markakis named Gold Glove finalists.

BALTIMORE, MD - SEPTEMBER 28:  Marco Scutaro #10 of the Boston Red Sox is tagged out at home plate in the eighth inning by Matt Wieters #32 of the Baltimore Orioles at Oriole Park at Camden Yards on September 28, 2011 in Baltimore, Maryland.  (Photo by Greg Fiume/Getty Images)

The 2011 Gold Gloves will be announced tomorrow at 10 p.m. Why not in the middle of the day, you ask? Because for the first time, they will be televised (on ESPN2). They've announced three finalists for each position, and for the first time are awarding separate awards for each of the outfield positions. 

The Orioles have three finalists: Matt Wieters at catcher, Nick Markakis at right field, and J.J. Hardy at shortstop. Like many of you, I don't put much stock in Gold Gloves, but it would still be great if any of these guys could lock one up. It'd especially be great if Wieters won as I truly believe he deserves it. Nearly every defensive measure shows him to be a superior catcher. If he does win, I don't feel like it would be undeserved as I did two years ago when Adam Jones was named the winner. 

To see the complete list of finalists for both the AL and NL, check out ESPN

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I can’t really understand what else Markakis would need to do to win a GG.

by VeganWolf on Oct 31, 2011 9:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Actually play good defense?

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Oct 31, 2011 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha I guess that's true

by that logic this’ll be his year.

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by O'sFan21 on Oct 31, 2011 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

CamdenDepot did a bit on this.

Ever looked at Markakis’s and Jones’s home/away fielding splits? Really makes you wonder…

"Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs." -- Earl Weaver

by Vuff on Oct 31, 2011 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nope

link?

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by O'sFan21 on Oct 31, 2011 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

link!

http://camdendepot.blogspot.com/2011/10/bad-outfield-defense-or-bad-fielding.html

"Roberts is unconscious!!!!" - Jim Hunter, after Brian Roberts hits his second HR of the night. 9/21/09

by Gonfoo on Oct 31, 2011 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow

really interesting. I’d like to see if other OFers that have significant time at Camden Yards show similar results. Not sure there’d be enough of a sample size even among the division.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Oct 31, 2011 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think its also interesting that Jones has the smallest difference

It would make sense that area assigned to the center fielder is the most consistent from park to park, where as quirks would tend to be located in left and right, like the right field corner in Camden Yards.

by kba26 on Nov 1, 2011 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't know though

Isn’t there a fair amount of weird shit in CF as well? Triangle in Boston and Miami come to mind.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Nov 1, 2011 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

I also would have expected the opposite results

with players having better UZR ratings at home, due to difficulties associated with playing in unfamiliar parks on the road.

by kba26 on Nov 1, 2011 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks for linking that, Gonfoo.

I’ve love to dig into this myself, but I don’t know if the data is available publicly.

"Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs." -- Earl Weaver

by Vuff on Nov 1, 2011 12:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

No problem sir.

I don’t think there are any outfielders out there right now that have the innings logged in Camden Yards to not be considered SSS. :(

Although maybe if we were to combine the innings of all the outfielders considered Above Average overall, we could have enough innings? I dunno if that would count. But it seems like if All outfielders get worse when they play in Camden Yards, that’d be a correlation to hang your hat on.

"Roberts is unconscious!!!!" - Jim Hunter, after Brian Roberts hits his second HR of the night. 9/21/09

by Gonfoo on Nov 1, 2011 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

It really is great stuff

It does make one wonder about the statistic’s validity.

If you look at those UZR ratings or whatever

by dfa on Nov 1, 2011 2:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

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