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Wednesday Bird Droppings


Good morning, folks. Now that the excitement of the fab new unis has momentarily subsided, we can get back to chatting about offseason roster speculation and the bevvy of organizational propest rankings that are churned out this time every year.

Retr-O! Cartoon bird makes triumphant return to Orioles caps - Big League Stew Are there some undercover O's fans at Big League Stew?

Orioles Insider: Some more free-agent thoughts - baltimoresun.com As he is wont to do, Connolly gives a reasonable assessment of the state of things.

School of Roch: Interest in Ortiz?
I've clipped this just so I can trash it. Is this more or less absurd than Posada rumors?

Will the Great Scott be back?
What's up with Luke Scott?

Future Shock: Orioles Top 11 Prospects | Baseball Prospectus
It's a pay article, but if you don't have a subscription you can at least see the list and a review of Dylan Bundy.

2011 Bowie Baysox Season Review Check out the entire organizational review Orioles-Nation.com is doing. Very good stuff.

Camden Depot: 2012 Top 25 Prospects: #3 Jonathan Schoop Camden Depot continues their prospect breakdown.

Appreciating Mike Cuellar | Beyond the Box Score
From Bill Petti: "If you research baseball enough you are bound to stumble upon a pretty good player that you weren't that familiar with. I recently stumbled upon Mike Cuellar, and man was he good."

Today is the birthday of 1988 12th rounder Pete Rose, Jr.; 2010's backup second baseman was born on this day in 1975 and loose cannon reliever Fernando Cabrera also has a birthday today.

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why does the backup catcher need to be a mentor (presumably to Wieters)? Wieters is already really, really, really good. I don’t think his continued development is reliant on having Jason Kendell giving him attaboys for blocking a pitch in the dirt.

I'll develop my own image. I'm an original man. A one and only. I just need some help.

by Andrew_G on Nov 16, 2011 7:49 AM EST reply actions  

agree

unless it is “the mentor”. you know who I’m talking about… he mentors EVERYBODY.

by Philly O's on Nov 16, 2011 8:06 AM EST up reply actions  

Maybe he means mentor for the young pitching staff.

Although at this point I’d imagine Wieters can do that too. “Look, I’m the son of God here, I’ll block any shit you throw my way. Get it done.”

"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP

by Eat More Esskay on Nov 16, 2011 11:02 AM EST up reply actions  

this sort of stuff kills me...

like every year how they talk about needing a veteran starter…what is jeremy guthrie?

"Three thousand years of beautiful tradition,from Moses to Sandy Koufax,YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT I'M LIVING IN THE FUCKING PAST!"- Walter Sobchak

by j.q. higgins on Nov 16, 2011 11:05 AM EST up reply actions  

A NKOTB fan.

"Human beings make life so interesting. Do you know, that in a universe so full of wonders, they have managed to invent boredom?" ~ Death

by NSOsFan on Nov 16, 2011 12:07 PM EST up reply actions  

in a story that combines two worlds for me

Ryan Ripken (Cal’s son) has committed to play baseball for the mighty South Carolina Gamecocks

http://www.gogamecocks.com/2011/11/06/172501/ggf-son-of-baseball-hall-of-famer.html

i guess the allure of playing for team coming off back-to-back national championships was too much for Ryan to pass up

clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...

by Gamecock24 on Nov 16, 2011 8:33 AM EST reply actions  

GAME

Tommy hunter still sucks!

by Steve. on Nov 16, 2011 8:38 AM EST up reply actions  

COCKS!

clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...

by Gamecock24 on Nov 16, 2011 8:42 AM EST up reply actions  

The excitement of new uniforms is not gone...

Because I still have the bestest Orioles hat ever.

by Tezcatlipoca on Nov 16, 2011 8:58 AM EST reply actions  

Front page Yahoo love for the new uni's

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Nov 16, 2011 9:27 AM EST up reply actions  

Did anyone else notice that article was written by a guy named "duk"??

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Nov 16, 2011 9:30 AM EST up reply actions  

Is it just me, or does the cartoon bird look too goofy?

I mean, he looks like he’s not all there for some reason.

by Tezcatlipoca on Nov 16, 2011 9:34 AM EST up reply actions  

whatever...

why do you love trucker hats so much? trucker hat lover.

"Three thousand years of beautiful tradition,from Moses to Sandy Koufax,YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT I'M LIVING IN THE FUCKING PAST!"- Walter Sobchak

by j.q. higgins on Nov 16, 2011 9:39 AM EST up reply actions  

Don't get me wrong....I love the orange jersey.

I don’t like the white panel hat. The cartoon bird isn’t that great either, but it looks better on the black hat w/ orange brim.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Nov 16, 2011 10:04 AM EST up reply actions  

I think I'd be happier with the white panel hat if it were not an everyday hat, but a special one once a week or so.

For a Tuesday – Sunday homestand now, the Orioles are going to be wearing at least three different uniforms with the regular whites, the Friday blacks, and the Saturday oranges.

Maryland, is that you?

by Tezcatlipoca on Nov 16, 2011 10:11 AM EST up reply actions  

Yea...that does seem sorta stupid.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Nov 16, 2011 10:12 AM EST up reply actions  

JJ looks good in anything

Gregg is going to make all the uniforms look like shit.
He actually posted them on his FB yesterday though.

Will work for Recs.

by Wieters Wieners on Nov 16, 2011 11:22 AM EST up reply actions  

It's ALWAYS looked too goofy

We still suck, but on Sept. 29, 2011, we did a Very Cool Thing. Yeah, we did that.

by Titov on Nov 16, 2011 10:11 AM EST up reply actions  

That's Big League Stew

He goes by many aliases

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Nov 16, 2011 10:24 AM EST up reply actions  

a distant relative of...

this guy!

"Three thousand years of beautiful tradition,from Moses to Sandy Koufax,YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT I'M LIVING IN THE FUCKING PAST!"- Walter Sobchak

by j.q. higgins on Nov 16, 2011 10:34 AM EST up reply actions  

No relation :)

"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King

by duck on Nov 16, 2011 10:26 AM EST up reply actions  

Also on the Yahoo front page

PETA says Mario’s Tanooki suit sends the message that it’s ok to wear fur

Let me remind everyone that I am involved in an animal rescue group before I say this, but…

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Nov 16, 2011 9:55 AM EST up reply actions  

they know how to get attention.

I can imagine them sitting in a boardroom saying, "ok, now how can we get ourselves linked with Important Cultural Figure X?

Tommy hunter still sucks!

by Steve. on Nov 16, 2011 10:10 AM EST up reply actions  

Agreed.

People have too much fucking time on their hands. Go do something productive. (Of course, I should note that it is after 10am and I’ve yet to even open my work email. Got here at about 810.)

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Nov 16, 2011 10:11 AM EST up reply actions  

I could look it up, but if I had to guess

it’d be a Barclay, Lwaxana, or Q episode.

Really narrowing it down, I know.

by PhilR8 on Nov 16, 2011 10:14 AM EST up reply actions  

NERD TIME

The double facepalm is a photoshop! It’s not from any episode. Here’s the actual scene from “A Matter of Perspective,” where Riker is on trial for allegedly killing a scientist, who allegedly caught his wife getting friendly with Riker. Here’s the scene from “Deja Q” (where Q is punished by his race and sentenced to be mortal) where the Picard facepalm is from. Skip to around 0:55 to see it happen.

by PhilR8 on Nov 16, 2011 10:22 AM EST up reply actions  

I was expecting "it's fake. I can tell by the pixels."

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Nov 16, 2011 10:23 AM EST up reply actions  

I think you can actually tell by the shadows.

"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP

by Eat More Esskay on Nov 16, 2011 10:54 AM EST up reply actions  

Thanks!

I was assuming that Q went back in time to the filming of an episode and changed a camera position to catch both Piccard and Riker facepalming at the director’s instructions.

by Tezcatlipoca on Nov 16, 2011 10:25 AM EST up reply actions  

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

This is like learning that Santa isn’t real.

by Holymittens on Nov 16, 2011 10:33 AM EST up reply actions  

I knew it had to be at least in part

some reaction to Q

"If you don't like the effect, don't produce the cause."

- George Clinton

by sluggo 2.0 on Nov 16, 2011 10:49 AM EST up reply actions  

Dave you'll be happy to know

that the foster dog we’ve had since February is getting adopted this weekend. Amazing transformation.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Nov 16, 2011 11:30 AM EST up reply actions  

Awesomeness

we have a Pit right now that’s the sweetest dog ever, but he farts so much I can’t wait to get him the hell outta my place. I really hate dogs. Unfortunately the lady loves them and I’m still against their dying, so I live with a friendly, licking, farting mess.

Oh, but we named him Ripken, so it’s all good (he was amazing at catch from the moment we got him and Jen came up with it)

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Nov 16, 2011 11:37 AM EST up reply actions  

haha that's pretty funny

The last pit we had we named Kima – we’re planning on cycling through all The Wire names. I think Bodie is next on the list, but the wife wants to go with Stringer Bell.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Nov 16, 2011 11:46 AM EST up reply actions  

Apparently Fernando Cuza, Ortiz's agent,

also represents Vladimir Guerrero and Pedro Martinez. Hopefully it’s just a meeting for old times’ sake re: Pedro, and possibly to see about a handshake agreement re: Vlad declining arbitration.

"Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs." -- Earl Weaver

by Vuff on Nov 16, 2011 9:01 AM EST reply actions  

it seemed like a big jump to me to conclude that the meeting was about Ortiz

I'll develop my own image. I'm an original man. A one and only. I just need some help.

by Andrew_G on Nov 16, 2011 9:15 AM EST up reply actions  

Yep.

Considering the O’s have, what, four current players who arguably should DH rather than field, and Duquette’s already said not to expect any big FA signings, it’s a stretch, to say the least.

"Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs." -- Earl Weaver

by Vuff on Nov 16, 2011 9:20 AM EST up reply actions  

this was my thought exactly...

and it was REALLY lazy of roch to make that posting w/ such little qualifying info.

"Three thousand years of beautiful tradition,from Moses to Sandy Koufax,YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT I'M LIVING IN THE FUCKING PAST!"- Walter Sobchak

by j.q. higgins on Nov 16, 2011 9:37 AM EST up reply actions  

Roch's too busy defending Melewksi's defending of Stockstill.

"Human beings make life so interesting. Do you know, that in a universe so full of wonders, they have managed to invent boredom?" ~ Death

by NSOsFan on Nov 16, 2011 12:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Too bad the reports are indicating type B compensation may be deleted in the new CBA.

"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP

by Eat More Esskay on Nov 16, 2011 10:51 AM EST up reply actions  

I kinda hope it does.

Guys like Vlad shouldn’t bring a team draft picks when another team signs him.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Nov 16, 2011 10:52 AM EST up reply actions  

Apparently, that was an error.
Made a mistake yesterday that I want to clarify. There WILL be Type-B free agents this offseason. Sorry for mistake.

http://twitter.com/#!/Joelsherman1/status/136841756691013633

"Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs." -- Earl Weaver

by Vuff on Nov 16, 2011 1:40 PM EST up reply actions  

More on this, from Roch:
Orioles executive vice president of baseball operations Dan Duquette – man, we really need to shorten that title – confirmed this morning that he met last night with agent Fernando Cuza.

When I brought up David Ortiz’s name and the assumption that the veteran designated hitter was the focus of that meeting, Duquette paused before replying, “He represents Vladimir Guerrero, too, by the way.”

Duquette said the Orioles need to decide “what we’re doing with him.” That also could mean whether to offer Guerrero arbitration – the deadline is Nov. 23 – and perhaps gauge whether he would turn it down and allow the Orioles to collect a draft pick.

http://www.masnsports.com/school_of_roch/2011/11/duquette-confirms-meeting-with-cuza.html

"Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs." -- Earl Weaver

by Vuff on Nov 16, 2011 1:36 PM EST up reply actions  

"what to do with him" BETTER only apply to finding out if he'll turn down arbitration

Because if the Orioles re-sign Vlad I’m turning this into a full-time cupcake blog.

by Stacey on Nov 16, 2011 1:37 PM EST up reply actions  

good grief, dan is actually pondering whether to offer vlad arbitration?

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Nov 16, 2011 2:30 PM EST up reply actions  

I certainly hope he is

if there’s an agreement he’ll turn it down.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Nov 16, 2011 3:25 PM EST up reply actions  

won't he need an incentive to do that?

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Nov 16, 2011 3:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Making more money somewhere else?

Not playing for the Orioles?

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Nov 16, 2011 3:32 PM EST up reply actions  

he already has those incentives in the bag.

duquette: how about we offer you arbitration and then you decline it as a favor to us? we sat you in the 4 spot all season long despite the fact you sucked. that should get us something right?
vlad’s agent: i’ll happily decline arbitration if you sign one of my other crappy clients.
duquette: long pause, hangs up.

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Nov 16, 2011 3:35 PM EST up reply actions  

pedro and miggy!

"Three thousand years of beautiful tradition,from Moses to Sandy Koufax,YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT I'M LIVING IN THE FUCKING PAST!"- Walter Sobchak

by j.q. higgins on Nov 16, 2011 3:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Yea, but he can't control if we offer him arb

If we know he’s going to decline, it works. We just need to see if he’s willing to come back at an arb rate or not. If not, then we’re golden.

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Nov 16, 2011 3:38 PM EST up reply actions  

he'll definitely come back at arb rate.

he’ll get far more in arb versus the open market. maybe money isn’t a concern for him anymore. but if that was the case, he would have signed with the rangers last off season.

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Nov 16, 2011 3:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Damn...Schaub got hurt when Albert Haynesworth fell on his foot.

What a fat fucking turd.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Nov 16, 2011 9:08 AM EST reply actions  

Kinda wish the Kindle Fire had 3G

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Nov 16, 2011 9:15 AM EST reply actions  

Shouldn't this be...
Kinda wish the Kindle Fire had 3G was an iPad

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Nov 16, 2011 9:21 AM EST up reply actions  

No.

The iPad’s a waste of 500 bucks. If it wasn’t an Apple product, nobody would buy it.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Nov 16, 2011 9:22 AM EST up reply actions  

That is the dumbest thing I've ever heard

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Nov 16, 2011 9:26 AM EST up reply actions  

Apple fanboy I presume?

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Nov 16, 2011 9:26 AM EST up reply actions  

I love it.

anytime anyone prefers an ipad or iphone over an alternative they’re an apple fanboy. It’s a real convenient way to belittle someone without giving them an avenue for retort.

Tommy hunter still sucks!

by Steve. on Nov 16, 2011 9:37 AM EST up reply actions  

hehe lighten up

AMD started it, now he’s gotta endure the heat.

And zknower will show up eventually to tip the scales back your way. We all know how much he loves all things Apple.

by PhilR8 on Nov 16, 2011 9:39 AM EST up reply actions  

I AM FUCKING LIGHT GODDAMMIT

But seriously, the conversation below is worthwhile; saying, “iPad’s a waste, you’re a fanboy” is actually not productive.

Tommy hunter still sucks!

by Steve. on Nov 16, 2011 9:41 AM EST up reply actions  

I agree

iPad was (yet another) truly revolutionary, watershed device from Apple. There’s really no denying that. But now the tablet market has matured a bit, prices for components have come down, and there will finally be a worthy competitor for the iPad at under half the cost.

The first time I truly understood the utility of the iPad was just this past Fell’s Point festival. Just a few months ago. The Kuerig company had a stand there where they were giving out free samples of coffee from their machines, and while waiting in line to get one, some booth worker was going down the line and using an iPad to input people’s email addresses in exchange for a bag of KCups. It took her all of ten seconds to capture a name and email address and it was instantly uploaded to their marketing servers. It just looked so easy, it was easy to hold, it wasn’t unwieldy, there were no mistakes. So commercial applications for the iPad are really eye-opening, considering how the same thing would have been captured just two or three years ago. Probably wouldn’t been a much more complicated process with unwieldy devices, etc.

Then, when the Fire was announced one of the NPR shows (On Point, I think) was talking about tablets and the Fire vs. the iPad, and all that stuff. One person called in and was talking about how his company loves the iPad for the same reason as above: it make things so much easier for certain applications. The host asked this person what he thought of the Fire: would this person stay loyal to the iPad? The response, as you can imagine, came down to price: if the Fire can do the same things as the iPad can (probably specific app support), then the caller would love to go forward with a $200 Fire to do the same thing the $499 iPad could do. I thought that was interesting.

by PhilR8 on Nov 16, 2011 9:48 AM EST up reply actions  

Interesting

I know my mom loves hers but she really is an apple fanlady.

Tommy hunter still sucks!

by Steve. on Nov 16, 2011 9:57 AM EST up reply actions  

yes, but

the iPad will come down eventually. It’s just there’s no reason for them to drop the price when it’s still the most popular tablet by far.

You know what’s really cheap right now? iPhones. Their prices have slowly been reduced to the point where the early gens are free, and the later ones are inexpensive enough that competitors can no longer use pricepoint as a wedge.

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Nov 16, 2011 10:57 AM EST up reply actions  

Most popular?

It’s really the ONLY tablet. The kindle fire and the nook aren’t being marketed as full-functioning tablets, just multi-media devices.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Nov 16, 2011 11:01 AM EST up reply actions  

There have been plenty of Android tablets

and at best, some of them can be considered modest successes, with most being easily qualified as failures (Motorola XOOM). And having seen Ice Cream Sandwich, I still don’t see Android tablets gaining much traction.

by PhilR8 on Nov 16, 2011 11:03 AM EST up reply actions  

this

or as tech reviewers call them, “tablets”

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Nov 16, 2011 11:04 AM EST up reply actions  

Do you take a Android shower?

"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King

by duck on Nov 16, 2011 11:24 AM EST up reply actions  

See..I didn't know that.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Nov 16, 2011 11:39 AM EST up reply actions  

i have asus transformer

previously, i had the first ipad. both are really nice. i liked the asus slightly more but it just depends on what things you prefer. for example, the asus has expandable memory slots and usb ports but the battery life is better on the ipad. i also liked the browser better on the asus because it had tabbed browsing. i’m assuming the new ipad has this but the first one did not (or at least it wasn’t installed on mine. maybe there was an upgrade available that i didn’t know about).

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Nov 16, 2011 2:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Every review I've ever read

about the Asus Transformer indicates that it is iPad competitive. Asus is highly underrated at this point, they’ve been putting out good products.

From the Land of Pleasant Living...

by OEutaw on Nov 16, 2011 2:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Completely agree

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Nov 16, 2011 2:58 PM EST up reply actions  

What does it turn into?

Hot dogs?

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Nov 16, 2011 2:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Hhaha yes!

Glad I wasn’t the only one.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Nov 16, 2011 2:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Fecepticons

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Nov 16, 2011 2:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Definitely not the only tablet

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Nov 16, 2011 11:11 AM EST up reply actions  

the first ipad is reasonably priced now if you can find a 16 gb.

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Nov 16, 2011 2:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Chill out, brosef.

There is nothing on an iPad that makes it worth 500 bucks when you can get a considerable number of features for 200. Actually, I’m not even convinced anyone actually needs the $200 product either, but that’s a different argument.

I will say this….if the tablet didn’t really start with Apple, I think it would have taken muchhhhhhh longer to catch on.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Nov 16, 2011 10:09 AM EST up reply actions  

Actually, I’m not even convinced anyone actually needs the $200 product either, but that’s a different argument.

Yeah, this. Tablets are nice, but hardly essential. If tablets were banned from existence, I wouldn’t be upset for a second.

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Nov 16, 2011 2:37 PM EST up reply actions  

but if other people find it essential that's cool.

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Nov 16, 2011 2:38 PM EST up reply actions  

I had this conversation with my MiL

“Do I need an iPad?” she asked.

“No one NEEDS an iPad. The question is, do you want one, and is it worth $600 to you? ‘Cause if it is, they’re pretty awesome,” was my reply.

She bought one, and is extremely happy.

"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King

by duck on Nov 16, 2011 2:40 PM EST up reply actions  

well said.

baseball players love it btw. video scouting reports are a great tool that do well on tablets.

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Nov 16, 2011 2:41 PM EST up reply actions  

That would be a pretty cool way to tape wrestling matches and instantly review them

if it wasn’t against the rules to video from matside.

"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King

by duck on Nov 16, 2011 2:42 PM EST up reply actions  

My mom has one

And she’s 100% happy with her purchase even though she mostly only uses it to play a few games and shop online while she’s watching TV. She used to have one of those mini laptops and she hated it.

by Stacey on Nov 16, 2011 3:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Very few things are essential

If you’re going to talk about essentials, you need food, water, and a fire to keep you warm.

by Holymittens on Nov 16, 2011 2:43 PM EST up reply actions  

alright, bad word

my bad. i would be pissed if I couldn’t use my cell phone. but it’s certainly not essential. i don’t feel the same way about my tablet.

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Nov 16, 2011 2:47 PM EST up reply actions  

here i am!

TL, hat a ludicrous thing for you to say. “Nobody would buy it”?

RIght. That’s why businesses, who historically have shunned Apple products, are gobbling up iPads by the boatload because of the exponentially increased productivity it gives them.

All of Alaska Airlines’ more than 1,400 pilots now have iPads, and United and Continental Airlines, which have merged, started giving iPads to all 11,000 of their pilots in August.

"We’ve shown we can retrieve an electronic page faster than we can retrieve a printed manual," said Capt. Joe Burns, a United pilot and managing director of technology and flight tests for the airline.

Now I wonder why they didn’t all get Kindle fires? Oh wait, they wanted something that would actually boost their productivity. Or maybe they just wanted 3G.

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Nov 16, 2011 10:55 AM EST up reply actions  

That wasn't the point though.

I’m not debating whether or not Apple is smart as shit. I’m just saying that it would have taken FARRRR longer to catch on if it wasn’t an Apple product.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Nov 16, 2011 10:57 AM EST up reply actions  

No, your point is
There is nothing that makes an iPad worth 500 bucks.

Which I think you’ve said more than once. Businesses globally seem to think it is worth $500, because it does everything we’re discussing, and does it faster and better than any competitor. When they want their pilots to sit around reading books all day, maybe they’ll get them Kindles

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Nov 16, 2011 11:03 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm sure airline pilots REALLLLLLY need that digital camera!

Oh and that GPS. Because you know, airplanes don’t come equipped with several different redundant navigational devices!

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by twistedlogic on Nov 16, 2011 11:05 AM EST up reply actions  

if you actually READ THE ARTICLE

you’ll learn that the airline techs love it because if they are working on a part repair and they need support in a hurry, they can take a picture of the part and upload it to the head techs and get an answer back in a fraction of the time it would take.

which gets airplanes in the air faster. which saves a fuck of a lot more than $500.

it’s useless talking to you, because you just want to hate in this situation. i’m stepping away.

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by zknower on Nov 16, 2011 11:11 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

when I traded in my truck over the summer

the car dealership dudes took pictures of my truck from different angles with their iphone, uploaded them into some app, and got an appraisal, which is what the car could sell for at auction. I thought that was pretty neat.

by PhilR8 on Nov 16, 2011 11:13 AM EST up reply actions  

That last line is beautiful
it’s useless talking to you, because you just want to hate in this situation. i’m stepping away.

And it’s ultimately how I end up feeling every time I argue with TL. Out of all of this discussion, he’s nitpicking the fact that I suggested in half a sentence that the iPad has GPS and camera capabilities. I also like,

Do you have the Fire, TL?
Or any other tablet?

Negative

It’s really the ONLY tablet.

Clearly have no idea what you’re talking about at all.

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Nov 16, 2011 11:17 AM EST up reply actions  

Why are you being such a fucking asshole?

Just because you bought a 500 dollar iPad doesn’t give you any expertise with any of the software. You used the GPS/digital camera as part of your argument. If you didn’t want anyone to comment on it, why post it?

Please give me a full rundown of all of the software on iPad and other similar tablets available. You claim to be such an expert, so this shouldn’t be hard at all!

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Nov 16, 2011 11:25 AM EST up reply actions  

Nowhere did I claim to be an expert or to even have an iPad!

I don’t have one btw – hoping to get it as a combined bday/xmas present from my mom and bro. I have the iPhone, which I feel the need to tell you again is practically the same, only smaller. And I’ve toyed with my roommate’s Droid and tablet and they are inferior.

I’m done EME. He’s doing just fine digging his own hole.

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Nov 16, 2011 11:31 AM EST up reply actions  

wow.
I’m done EME. He’s doing just fine digging his own hole.

Last word?

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Nov 16, 2011 11:40 AM EST up reply actions  

It is worth noting though,

that there is nothing special about the Ipad really, other than that it was the first.

It has been very well copied, and it’s functionality can be completely mimicked by other tablets.

by DaveAA on Nov 16, 2011 11:18 AM EST up reply actions  

It wasn't airline techs (guess you should read the article too.....)

But yea, not the point. I’m really not denying their extreme functionality, but the point is that they don’t need ALL of the functionality. No doubt airlines (which are bleeding cash) would love to have something far less expensive. You don’t need a full ipad to pull up nav charts and store manuals etc.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Nov 16, 2011 11:20 AM EST up reply actions  

I was specifically responding to
The iPad’s a waste of 500 bucks. If it wasn’t an Apple product, nobody would buy it.

That statement is clearly a load of crap.

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by zknower on Nov 16, 2011 11:05 AM EST up reply actions  

well as I said in my long-winded response to Steve.

I’m sure Alaska Airlines would love to cut their hardware expenses in half and get something like a Kindle Fire if it gave them a similar level of productivity. The Fire is probably not the product to do that, though, since Amazon isn’t really positioning it as a professional tablet. Windows 8 tablets will be the first real threat to the iPad’s dominance.

by PhilR8 on Nov 16, 2011 10:58 AM EST up reply actions  

This.

Fire has OpenOffice so you can open documents retrieved from email. Otherwise, it’s not a work device – it’s for media content: Books, magazines, videos, music, apps, games, Web.

Which, IIRC, is what 80% of iPad users use their iPad for. THAT is why the phrase “iPad killer” came about – because most iPad buyers aren’t using it as a work device, they’re using it for media content. In that case, it’s not worth $300 more than a Fire. The value in the iPad is (and I would argue they’re overpriced) in all the other things it can do.

So this isn’t really an apples-to-apples comparison. It’s more apples to applesauce.

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by OEutaw on Nov 16, 2011 11:05 AM EST up reply actions  

In that case, it’s not worth $300 more than a Fire.

Again, maybe not to you. It obviously is to people who decide to buy it after doing the research.

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by zknower on Nov 16, 2011 11:06 AM EST up reply actions  

Oh, obviously.

My hands-on experience with the iPad didn’t reveal the version of Safari that shits gold nuggets out the charging port while you surf porn in 3D

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by OEutaw on Nov 16, 2011 11:12 AM EST up reply actions  

Porn in 3D...

Part of me thinks that’s a bloody brilliant idea…

Part of me is terrified at the unintended consequences…

by Tezcatlipoca on Nov 16, 2011 11:16 AM EST up reply actions  

I'd argue that a large segment of those people

didn’t do much more research than “what’s the cool thing to have”. That’s why I don’t want an iPad. I know I don’t need all the stuff that comes with an iPad and that I can use a 200-250 dollar device to do the exact same stuff I’d be using an iPad for. I think that’s why people are saying the iPad is overpriced. Not because it isn’t superior, but because people are paying for name and status more than product.

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by daveh873 on Nov 16, 2011 11:16 AM EST up reply actions  

Perhaps

I would encourage anyone to but the thing that fits their needs the most. As someone who will be using the iPad for the media content OE listed above, I still think it’s worth the extra money in the long run due to the speed of the device, and Apple’s new iCloud and iMatch technology. If you’re already set up with iTunes/iPod like I am, it’s a no brainer to get the pad and be able to play video and audio files on command instantly on any device.

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Nov 16, 2011 11:20 AM EST up reply actions  

to buy*

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Nov 16, 2011 11:21 AM EST up reply actions  

Right....but wouldn't you want something at half the cost to do everything you've listed above?

Even if it didn’t come with GPS and a digital camera and whatever else?

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Nov 16, 2011 11:26 AM EST up reply actions  

As zk alluded to

The fact that the devices sync up is where the value lies. If you had let’s say an iPod, Droid, and a Kindle Fire, you’d have to conform your files to each device specifically, connect and manually push video and music to each, etc. It would be cumbersome. If you have iPhone/iPad, with iTunes storing all of your shit locally on a desk/laptop of any kind, you can wirelessly move any music or video file to any device in seconds. So everything you own is with you all the time. That’s worth the extra money to me.

Now in response to both you and PhilR8’s comment below, if you’re starting completely fresh, and Amazon can set you up with the ease of everything I’ve said in the first paragraph at a lower cost, then perhaps it is a more practical choice for you to consider going the all-Amazon route.

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by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Nov 16, 2011 11:37 AM EST up reply actions  

Personally

I don’t really care if the devices talk to each other. I don’t even use the iCloud stuff whatsoever on my 4S.

Will work for Recs.

by Wieters Wieners on Nov 16, 2011 11:39 AM EST up reply actions  

There are ways to get convenient syncing on android devices.

Spotify can do music, and Google is pretty good about letting all sorts of contacts, and documents and things of that nature move freely.

by DaveAA on Nov 16, 2011 11:41 AM EST up reply actions  

See below.

I agree on all of your points.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Nov 16, 2011 11:42 AM EST up reply actions  

I really don't think it'd be that much of an issue

The Fire runs on a forked version of Android, and Amazon has apps across all platforms. And with Whispersync™, your ebooks and video content will also be synced across platforms: if you start watching a show on your fire and pause it, you can pick up where you left off on your laptop, set-top device, etc. It’s always been that way with the Kindle and eBooks, which is nice for reading on your phone. Amazon also has a ton of apps specific to Android for their cloud music player, etc, that would do the same thing. So not the best choice if you have an iPhone, but the iOS functionality you speak of is duplicated with Amazon and Android.

by PhilR8 on Nov 16, 2011 11:45 AM EST up reply actions  

The Fire will most likely match the iPad's performance

and Amazon has similar cloud offerings. Amazon’s Cloud Player has been out for eight months.

I don’t know how many of us are out there, but I’ve never owned an Apple product in my life and I don’t have an iTunes account. Mainly because I’m not really a music guy, so I didn’t really have a need to get an Apple product. However I love to read and have had a Kindle for a while. I’m also a cordcutter – I don’t have cable tv, just cable internet – and I rely on Amazon Instant Video to watch a lot of shows like Breaking Bad. And so far, every experience with an Amazon service (except their uber-shitty gift wrapping option) has been very pleasant.

by PhilR8 on Nov 16, 2011 11:27 AM EST up reply actions  

Me, too!
I don’t know how many of us are out there, but I’ve never owned an Apple product in my life and I don’t have an iTunes account.

I’ll admit to having an old anti-Apple biases from the ‘90s PC-Mac wars, and from beating my head against a wall at Quicktime version conflicts back in the day. A lot of their products now are pretty good, but you pay a bit extra for the style and brand, and I don’t like having to use proprietary software, so they’re not for me.

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by Vuff on Nov 16, 2011 12:36 PM EST up reply actions  

This.

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by O'sFan21 on Nov 16, 2011 11:35 AM EST up reply actions  

Rec'd

The iPad is a beast. I’m waiting for the 3 though.

Will work for Recs.

by Wieters Wieners on Nov 16, 2011 11:25 AM EST up reply actions  

except not everyone wants to pay $600 for a toy

Kindle Fire looks like a good alternative to me. And 3G isn’t what makes ipad cost that much more.

Personally I wouldn’t want to pay a monthly service fee for 3G anyway when my phone already has it.

by Stacey on Nov 16, 2011 9:26 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I'm not seeing ANY link to Mobbies stuff on The Sun's home page.

Way to promote your own contest, guys.

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by duck on Nov 16, 2011 10:29 AM EST up reply actions  

Maybe they laid off the person who organized it once it was over.

Cutbacks are a bitch!

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by Eat More Esskay on Nov 16, 2011 10:58 AM EST up reply actions  

Not when you consider

You could pay $200 for a Kindle, $150 for a digital camera, $100 for a GPS, $400 for a netbook, etc. etc. etc…. or you could buy an iPad

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Nov 16, 2011 9:28 AM EST up reply actions  

Dude.

That’s the most unwieldy digital camera / GPS ever.

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by OEutaw on Nov 16, 2011 9:29 AM EST up reply actions  

Nobody is using the fucking ipad as a digital camera and a GPS.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Nov 16, 2011 9:29 AM EST up reply actions  

this.

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Nov 16, 2011 2:44 PM EST up reply actions  

lol

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by twistedlogic on Nov 16, 2011 9:32 AM EST up reply actions  

hahahaha that's awesome

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by O'sFan21 on Nov 16, 2011 11:36 AM EST up reply actions  

I don't have anything against iPads btw

they’re very cool. But not everyone needs or wants what it offers or is willing to spend that much money. People who choose the kindle don’t wish they had an ipad necessarily.

by Stacey on Nov 16, 2011 9:34 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

That's insane

Really? Are you replacing your camera and GPS with an iPad?

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by daveh873 on Nov 16, 2011 9:59 AM EST up reply actions  

No, with an iPhone

Jesus, didn’t realize I’d start a firestorm here.

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Nov 16, 2011 10:27 AM EST up reply actions  

You're also sill if you're spending $400 for a netbook.

It’s more like $100 for a kindle, $90 for a digital camera (much better than an integrated device, too) $100 for a gps, and $250 for a netbook.

by DaveAA on Nov 16, 2011 10:06 AM EST up reply actions  

I have a two-way wrist TV

so I can communicate with the other crimestoppers about Flattop

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by zknower on Nov 16, 2011 11:00 AM EST up reply actions  

Dammit, my phone in a shoe is obsolete already?

"Human beings make life so interesting. Do you know, that in a universe so full of wonders, they have managed to invent boredom?" ~ Death

by NSOsFan on Nov 16, 2011 1:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Maybe

but your Cone of Silence is still state-of-the-art.

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by Zeke McGeek on Nov 16, 2011 1:26 PM EST up reply actions  

netbooks still exist?

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Nov 16, 2011 2:45 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't have a smart phone, but I'm in the same camp.

There is nothing that makes an iPad worth 500 bucks. You can do so much of the same stuff on your smart phone anyways.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Nov 16, 2011 9:28 AM EST up reply actions  

Best (worst?) iPad moment to date

The professor fumbles through his papers looking for the course schedule: "It’s here somewhere. Anyway, as I recall, next we’ll be dealing with, um, I think it’s…"

A student in the first row rolls her eyes, calls up the schedule on her iPad and hands the tablet to the professor in 10 seconds.

The good news is she didn’t say, "Here, stupid."

We still suck, but on Sept. 29, 2011, we did a Very Cool Thing. Yeah, we did that.

by Titov on Nov 16, 2011 10:18 AM EST up reply actions  

ding-ding-ding

And I’m now getting emailed homework assignments with this at the bottom

Отправлено с IPad

She-e-e-e-it. I don’t know why, but I sort of not ready for this…

We still suck, but on Sept. 29, 2011, we did a Very Cool Thing. Yeah, we did that.

by Titov on Nov 16, 2011 10:25 AM EST up reply actions  

really can't imagine typing a paper on an iPad

although I don’t really have any experience with an iPad + keyboard dock. I DO have experience with an Android honeycomb tablet – the ASUS Transformer, which has a keyboard dock. It was a horrible experience trying to type anything more than a few sentences, plus not all of the keyboard shortcuts that I’m used to work… laptop for me, thanks.

by PhilR8 on Nov 16, 2011 10:28 AM EST up reply actions  

You'd need the keyboard attachment

I don’t think it would be very practical for a student

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Nov 16, 2011 10:31 AM EST up reply actions  

boom ROASTED

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Nov 16, 2011 10:26 AM EST up reply actions  

Oddly enough, I think some of the students sorta LIKE having a teach who lives in technical 1975

Maybe they’re just retro fans or sth

We still suck, but on Sept. 29, 2011, we did a Very Cool Thing. Yeah, we did that.

by Titov on Nov 16, 2011 11:49 AM EST up reply actions  

I'll admit.

I’m a computer nerd and own everything except a smart phone and a tablet (as we’ve all heard about a dozen times now), but I hated having to do all my coursework on computers etc. It was crazy how many times the fucking system would “go down” when you had a deadline to submit your work etc.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Nov 16, 2011 11:55 AM EST up reply actions  

Tell me about it

When I started taking Russ in college, a jillion-dee-three yrs ago, it was on an early version of a computerized language-teaching program — funded by, ahem, Our Friends in Langley, as we later found out.

Problem was, the f#cking thing kept crashing or malfunctioning, and if that happened during your allotted computer time it was T.S., Elliot — you couldn’t go over into the NEXT guy’s assigned on-line minutes. Which meant you had to make it up on a wkend or sth.

This happened so often I eventually said F#ckThis Shit and switched to person-taught Russ, which I don’t regret doing at all.

We still suck, but on Sept. 29, 2011, we did a Very Cool Thing. Yeah, we did that.

by Titov on Nov 16, 2011 12:02 PM EST up reply actions  

I lived like 20 feet from all of my classrooms anyways.

It isn’t that hard to walk over and hand in some papers. The professors who loved those online systems so much still printed the pages out and marked every paper by hand anyways.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Nov 16, 2011 12:04 PM EST up reply actions  

So do I. I HATE f#cking with online correction-system things

Of course, that’s said by prolly the Last Guy in America To Write His Dissertation By Hand. Yes, The Whole F#cking Thing. On Legal Paper.

I’m probably the answer to a trivia question.

We still suck, but on Sept. 29, 2011, we did a Very Cool Thing. Yeah, we did that.

by Titov on Nov 16, 2011 12:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Seriously.

I had a professor who would do her grading in Word. I could never figure out how that worked.

Tommy hunter still sucks!

by Steve. on Nov 16, 2011 12:11 PM EST up reply actions  

this is a ridiculous remark

things are worth their market value to people who spend that value on them.

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by zknower on Nov 16, 2011 11:01 AM EST up reply actions  

That's not nearly true.

You know how many people own smartphones and don’t even know how to work them? Do all of the people who own iPads use every single function that they paid 500 bucks for?

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Nov 16, 2011 11:03 AM EST up reply actions  

that's the beauty of the iPhone

they’re idiot-proof. A lot of people don’t mind paying for good UI/UX. This is why the iPhone became a worldwide phenomenon and the death of Windows Mobile (not to be confused with the current, excellent Windows Phone) was celebrated.

by PhilR8 on Nov 16, 2011 11:06 AM EST up reply actions  

Does anyone use every single function of anything they buy?

you’re really grasping at straws here. And you seem obsessed with “500 bucks.”

You know what an iPad can do that NONE of those other things can do? Sync up flawlessly with the rest of my devices. Game over, as far as I’m concerned. I’m going to buy something that does half as much stuff and can’t talk to anything I own to save a measly $300? Um, no.

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Nov 16, 2011 11:08 AM EST up reply actions  

I personally wouldn't classify $300 as "measly"...

… but I do think you have some valid points.

Then again, I’ve never used a i-Anything, a tablet, and haven’t had a smart phone since I moved back to the States from China.

by Tezcatlipoca on Nov 16, 2011 11:20 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah pretty much exactly what i just posted above.

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Nov 16, 2011 11:22 AM EST up reply actions  

Haha...so you'll pay an extra 300 bucks to sync your phone and your tablet?

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Nov 16, 2011 11:27 AM EST up reply actions  

I should note that I don't own anything it would need to talk to.

I’m not remotely attempting to show expertise on any of this (yep, AMD, this is for your benefit), but I can tell you that there are scores of folks out there that didn’t buy the iPad for all of its cool stuff (and it is cool stuff). They bought it because its another Apple toy. I can walk around my office building and point out the folks who don’t own an iphone or a macbook etc….and don’t even realize that the ipad can in fact sync with your other Mac devices.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Nov 16, 2011 11:37 AM EST up reply actions  

lets remember that when the Orioles raise ticket prices

I'll develop my own image. I'm an original man. A one and only. I just need some help.

by Andrew_G on Nov 16, 2011 11:04 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Haha nice

There you go again, trying to bring baseball into the baseball blog discussions again.

Note to TL: This is sarcasm, not meant to start a massive conversation

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by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Nov 16, 2011 11:05 AM EST up reply actions  

The Kindle

ereader that I have comes with 3G and WiFi and I don’t have to pay any service charges or have a data plan. We were reluctant to get one with both features but since I don’t have to pay to use it, I’m satisfied.

I don’t know that I would use a tablet but I definitely would not pay $500 for one in any circumstance.

When we were at Disney this summer, cast members were using them to conduct surveys. I thought that was a good use for them.

The person who introduced Andrew to baseball and the O's

by QTess on Nov 16, 2011 7:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Mine arrives today.

Can’t wait to get home from work.

From the Land of Pleasant Living...

by OEutaw on Nov 16, 2011 9:24 AM EST up reply actions  

Dude, you're who I was looking for yesterday!

Can we get some kinda review when you’ve learned the ropes?

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Nov 16, 2011 10:00 AM EST up reply actions  

Absolutely.

This is actually a Xmas present for the wife, so I need to put it through the paces before I hand it over.

From the Land of Pleasant Living...

by OEutaw on Nov 16, 2011 10:03 AM EST up reply actions  

Yes, please.

Full after-action when you’re done. I’m trying to decide whether or not I should get one.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Nov 16, 2011 10:06 AM EST up reply actions  

I hear it comes pre-loaded with your Amazon info

and any apps you’ve downloaded from Amazon onto your phone are already queued up. Pretty cool.

Trying to decide between the Fire and the Nook Tab, so hands-on info from a real person would be truly appreciated.

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Nov 16, 2011 10:14 AM EST up reply actions  

Second this.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Nov 16, 2011 10:15 AM EST up reply actions  

when you order it

you can check an option to buy it as a gift so it won’t come linked to your account.

by PhilR8 on Nov 16, 2011 10:15 AM EST up reply actions  

3G would suck on so many levels

would most likely be a poor experience, especially for consuming content. The Fire is basically a cloud device, and Amazon has a whole host of cloud services for music, movies, tv shows, etc. The experience of streaming all that over 3G would probably result in a million returns. Better that it sticks to WiFi for now so you get good speeds, although in limited areas. If you plan on travelling outside of wifi coverage you can always load some stuff on the hard drive ahead of time.

Also: no truly exorbitant data plans to pay for. I can’t imagine how long it would take someone to reach their 2GB cap when streaming stuff.

by PhilR8 on Nov 16, 2011 9:24 AM EST up reply actions  

Good point.

It would be nice to be able to browse the web on the bus ride home etc, but I can deal without.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Nov 16, 2011 9:26 AM EST up reply actions  

No smart phone.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Nov 16, 2011 9:31 AM EST up reply actions  

No smart phone & riding the bus.

Sorry, man. ;-)

From the Land of Pleasant Living...

by OEutaw on Nov 16, 2011 9:32 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm usually asleep anyways, but occasionally (once a week), I don't get a seat.

About a 50 min bus ride. Sucks to stand and not have anything to entertain myself.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Nov 16, 2011 10:16 AM EST up reply actions  

lot of caveats though

Battery life is very poor for the smartphone while it is being used as a hotspot. Think 1-2 hours. Also gotta pay extra for the tethering plan and that’s not cheap. If you don’t want to pay, you could root/jailbreak/etc your smartphone but that isn’t something the casual user wants to do, and even for someone who is informed, it can be a long and tedious affair depending on the popularity of the specific smartphone model.

Basically, the new mobile landscape sucks because you gotta pay for everything. I miss the old days when Sprint 3G was actually fast and when data was unlimited.

by PhilR8 on Nov 16, 2011 9:35 AM EST up reply actions  

Before everybody was streaming all the time.

Infrastructure can’t support all that data. I wonder how much Internet v.2 will cost…

From the Land of Pleasant Living...

by OEutaw on Nov 16, 2011 9:40 AM EST up reply actions  

ever since Sprint got the iPhone

3G speeds have really gone down the crapper. Back in my day, it was so much faster! I was tethering to my computer via Bluetooth PAN way back in 2005! Rabble rabble rabble.

by PhilR8 on Nov 16, 2011 9:41 AM EST up reply actions  

Fire is the first mainstream cloud device - and Apple's chasing it. (iCloud?)

Everything is going cloud, so shelling out $500 for what is basically an access client doesn’t make much sense. There will be refining & probably a middle ground established in the $350 range for something upstream of Fire & NookTab that has more local storage (probably iPadMini as well), but the iPad itself is too close to a notebook in terms of capability, size, processing power. People don’t want to lug it everywhere. The 7" tab, on the other hand, when backed by cloud content… that’s a whole new market.

From the Land of Pleasant Living...

by OEutaw on Nov 16, 2011 9:38 AM EST up reply actions  

Do you have the Fire, TL?

Or any other tablet?

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Nov 16, 2011 10:36 AM EST up reply actions  

Negative.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Nov 16, 2011 10:38 AM EST up reply actions  

If you don't even have a smart phone or a tablet,

Then you’ve never used the technology. I don’t understand how you have such a strong opinion.

Oh wait, I do understand – Because you’re TL and you love to start shit online.

If you don’t have a tablet or a smart phone, which for arguement’s sake we can call a mini-tablet in phone form, then you don’t know dick about the software, and have no idea what you’d gain or lose by having an Apple product or a Kindle Fire – ease of use, speed, responsiveness, whatever.

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Nov 16, 2011 10:42 AM EST up reply actions  

Dude....fucking blow yourself or something.

I’m just responding to your piss-poor argument that an ipad is worth 500 bucks just because its a digital camera and a GPS. I’d venture to say you don’t know dick about the software either. Spending 500 bucks doesn’t instantly make you an expert.

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by twistedlogic on Nov 16, 2011 10:47 AM EST up reply actions  

oh my

Five deep breaths.

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by DCO'sfan on Nov 16, 2011 10:51 AM EST up reply actions  

I said very little and then went to do actual work for a few hours

You guys ran with this.

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by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Nov 16, 2011 10:52 AM EST up reply actions  

hmmm
That is the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Nov 16, 2011 10:53 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah I still stand by that

What’s your point, other than to support my statement that “I said very little.”

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Nov 16, 2011 10:54 AM EST up reply actions  

hell yeah, now we're talking

Let’s get this party started!

Smartphone and tablet virgins will know one important thing, though: one is costs over twice as much as the other. For someone just sticking their toe into the segment, $200 is almost impulse-buy territory. Amazon’s hoping to catch a bunch of tablet virgins and rope them into their ecosystem.

by PhilR8 on Nov 16, 2011 10:47 AM EST up reply actions  

It could be beneficial if you do a lot of e-reading

I’m ironically getting my mom the regular Kindle for Xmas. I was thinking of going the extra $100 or so for the Fire but it took her 5 years to figure her laptop out, I think it’d be a waste.

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by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Nov 16, 2011 10:56 AM EST up reply actions  

I actually just got my Kindle Touch yesterday

for reading, eInk is the way to go. That’s my opinion, anyway.

by PhilR8 on Nov 16, 2011 11:01 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah I'm considering the Kindle Touch for her

Did you get the $99 w/ads or $139 w/o ads? Is it worth the extra $40?

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Nov 16, 2011 11:07 AM EST up reply actions  

Well it was a gift

I would’ve gotten the $99 wifi w/ads version in a heartbeat. I think the ads are just screensavers. I did a little research and most people at worst find the ads a minor annoyance. I think the ads are just in place of screen savers when the device is sleeping, which doesn’t bother me at all.

But mine was a gift and it’s the wifi+3G no ads version, which is really overkill. Especially since you can’t surf the web using 3G (not that I plan on doing much web surfing on my Kindle anyway). That’s a new restriction with the Kindle Touch. The Kindle Keyboard (the rebranded Kindle 3) can still surf the web via 3G.

So if I can’t surf the web, why do I have 3G? Just to buy stuff from Amazon’s store? Doesn’t seem like that’s worth $40 extra. If I were you, I’d buy the $99 Touch without worry.

by PhilR8 on Nov 16, 2011 11:11 AM EST up reply actions  

Good to know, thanks

You just saved me $40. It says it will display ads as the screensaver and on the home screen. I’m assuming that just means the main menu and there are no ads anywhere while you’re reading, correct?

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by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Nov 16, 2011 11:23 AM EST up reply actions  

yeah, it should just be an ad along the bottom of the home screen

like a ribbon across the bottom. So if your books are all listed on the home screen, the ad will probably take the place of the last book on the list. Nothing while reading.

by PhilR8 on Nov 16, 2011 11:28 AM EST up reply actions  

i may get a fire...

but i am absolutely getting an e-ink kindle. w/ all the loce they’re kicking prime members and the increasing adoption of kindle’s format for public libraries, seems like a no-brainer.

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by j.q. higgins on Nov 16, 2011 11:09 AM EST up reply actions  

Don't let the Kindle name fool you

it isn’t really an e-reader. It has that function, but if that’s what you are looking for the Fire is not the way to go. It’s a media device, and more a tablet than an e-reader.

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by daveh873 on Nov 16, 2011 11:19 AM EST up reply actions  

that something costs x amount less than something else

is not a primary consideration for a lot of people

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by zknower on Nov 16, 2011 11:03 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm here

If I’m gonna do the damn thing (and I’m no techie Wiz) I’m at least gonna get the best if it’s reasonably priced. To me $500 or $299 or whatever is no different when talking about buying a big piece of technology that is going to become a big part of my life.

Will work for Recs.

by Wieters Wieners on Nov 16, 2011 11:34 AM EST up reply actions  

fwiw...

if people want to screw around w/ an android tablet, woot has one for $60 today

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by j.q. higgins on Nov 16, 2011 11:36 AM EST up reply actions  

www.woot.com

lol

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Nov 16, 2011 11:41 AM EST up reply actions  

It's a pretty awesome site

I used to check it daily and have gotten some amazing deals. I bought a $200 knife set for $35 a few years ago.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Nov 16, 2011 11:48 AM EST up reply actions  

actually...

depending on how much you have to throw away, they have a link to samsung galaxy tab for 169, too.

"Three thousand years of beautiful tradition,from Moses to Sandy Koufax,YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT I'M LIVING IN THE FUCKING PAST!"- Walter Sobchak

by j.q. higgins on Nov 16, 2011 11:51 AM EST up reply actions  

I want an iPad 3.

I don’t care.

Will work for Recs.

by Wieters Wieners on Nov 16, 2011 11:54 AM EST up reply actions  

the honey badger of the tech set?

"Three thousand years of beautiful tradition,from Moses to Sandy Koufax,YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT I'M LIVING IN THE FUCKING PAST!"- Walter Sobchak

by j.q. higgins on Nov 16, 2011 11:56 AM EST up reply actions  

wine.woot has some pretty great deals too

if you live in a state that allows home delivery of alcohol

by kba26 on Nov 16, 2011 11:51 AM EST up reply actions  

and if you like wine of course...

I turned my dad onto that though.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Nov 16, 2011 11:52 AM EST up reply actions  

yeah...

just starting looking at this. i’ve been using lot18 and got some pretty good deals, but the wine woot deals are insane.

"Three thousand years of beautiful tradition,from Moses to Sandy Koufax,YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT I'M LIVING IN THE FUCKING PAST!"- Walter Sobchak

by j.q. higgins on Nov 16, 2011 11:52 AM EST up reply actions  

Pretty sure the law just passed this year.

"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP

by Eat More Esskay on Nov 16, 2011 12:14 PM EST up reply actions  

July 1, 2011 from the Sun
Several laws from the most recent session of the Maryland legislature take effect today:

•Marylanders may have wine shipped to their homes, as long as their vintner of choice has paid a $200 permit and signed up with the state comptroller’s office.

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Nov 16, 2011 12:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Ah yeah, i remember that now

Problem with that is its still a huge pain for most out-of-state distributors, since each vineyard/winery has to sign up individually. Unless you’re shipping a large volume into the state, most people probably won’t bother.

by kba26 on Nov 16, 2011 12:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, exactly right.

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Nov 16, 2011 12:37 PM EST up reply actions  

A few years ago is the key

The deals are never too good to be true anymore like they were when I was in college and woot was a mom and pop enterprise. It was bought by Amazon in June 2010, so the too good to be true deals like those are mostly gone.

In college I got an RCA 5 speaker surround sound with sub and 5 disc dvd player in the receiver for $60. I haven’t bought anything more than cheap HDMI cables or toys since then. RC helicopters and screaming monkeys are great stocking stuffers and secret santa work presents.

I still check sellout.woot every day, but it’s just a forum where people post good deals they found elsewhere.

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Nov 16, 2011 11:53 AM EST up reply actions  

Do they still have woot offs?

That’s how I got the knives. I also used to really like buying the grab bags haha.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Nov 16, 2011 11:55 AM EST up reply actions  

They still have the woot offs once a month

But I don’t think much of what they sell is priced significantly under market value from their competitors anymore, even during the woot offs.

The bags of crap were and still are awesome!

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Nov 16, 2011 12:00 PM EST up reply actions  

bags of crap! that's right

forgot the name. A buddy of mine got something pretty awesome in one of those once although I’m drawing a blank on what it was.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Nov 16, 2011 12:01 PM EST up reply actions  

The one we bought in college...

We got some random USB connectors, a toy light saber, a flying monkey, and a wireless hot spot thing from back in the day before 3G, where you could attach it to your router, and people could pay you $1 per hour to connect to the internet through it.

All for a buck!

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Nov 16, 2011 12:04 PM EST up reply actions  

I got giant remotes.

Like laptop sized remotes.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Nov 16, 2011 12:05 PM EST up reply actions  

The only thing I remember from mine

is headphones splitters which I still use to this day when I travel with the wife.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Nov 16, 2011 12:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Yea...when I started college, I bought so much shit off of woot.

It kinda sucks now.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Nov 16, 2011 12:00 PM EST up reply actions  

hahahaha

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Nov 16, 2011 11:44 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm tempted

so cheap

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Nov 16, 2011 11:41 AM EST up reply actions  

I know, shit.. what could go wrong?

If I hate it, I’ll just hand it to a homeless person and be like “here, I’d probably just piss the $60 away in Keno anyway”.

Will work for Recs.

by Wieters Wieners on Nov 16, 2011 11:43 AM EST up reply actions  

You don't play keno do you?

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Nov 16, 2011 11:45 AM EST up reply actions  

Keno is a fantastic compliment to Saturday or Sunday football watching with your bros at a local watering hole.

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Nov 16, 2011 11:47 AM EST up reply actions  

Meh

I used to (when I was gambling 71 days ago) at bars and stuff. But not like seriously, just $20 here and there.

Will work for Recs.

by Wieters Wieners on Nov 16, 2011 11:51 AM EST up reply actions  

hahahahaha
when I was gambling 71 days ago

Awesome.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Nov 16, 2011 11:52 AM EST up reply actions  

I am kind of impressed that he knows exactly how many days.

"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP

by Eat More Esskay on Nov 16, 2011 11:55 AM EST up reply actions  

Do you really go to a group?

I’m not trying to make fun of you here. I didn’t figure you for the group type.

"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP

by Eat More Esskay on Nov 16, 2011 11:58 AM EST up reply actions  

I go to a group

For socially awkward girls. Meh.

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by DCO'sfan on Nov 16, 2011 11:59 AM EST up reply actions  

Me too

But I go to pick them up.

Will work for Recs.

by Wieters Wieners on Nov 16, 2011 12:01 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Except that you can't get into the group if you're a boy

Nice try though!

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by DCO'sfan on Nov 16, 2011 12:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Don't underestimate WW.

"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP

by Eat More Esskay on Nov 16, 2011 12:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, sometimes they let gay guys into these groups

But I think it’s been well-established that WW is not gay.

Contrary to popular belief, I am not Jewish.

by DCO'sfan on Nov 16, 2011 12:05 PM EST up reply actions  

I go to a group

where nerds dress up in RenFest-type costumes and beat the crap out of each other with boffer weapons, but I don’t exactly think that’s the same kind of group as what we’re talking about here.

"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP

by Eat More Esskay on Nov 16, 2011 12:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Haha

I saw your pics and started to comment, but realized it wasn’t on YOUR wall. Stupid Zuckerberg’s new Facebook.

Will work for Recs.

by Wieters Wieners on Nov 16, 2011 12:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Is it called LAIRE?

Diana has put away her bosom, Apollo has lifted his skirt, the day has been launched.

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Nov 16, 2011 12:33 PM EST up reply actions  

It is not called LAIRE.

"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP

by Eat More Esskay on Nov 16, 2011 12:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Sadly, this is most people's idea of a LARP.

"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP

by Eat More Esskay on Nov 16, 2011 12:41 PM EST up reply actions  

It is really funny.

So I’m going to keep believing that this is what LARPing is. And I guess some folks do call it LAIRE. Some of the pics in the Gallery are outstanding.

Mother, did it need to be so high.

by salvotion on Nov 16, 2011 12:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Do they really have those groups?

I need one for socially awkward men. I am a nervous wreck in face-to-face social situations.

by Holymittens on Nov 16, 2011 12:10 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah

I’m not sure how helpful it is, but basically they give you strategies to deal with behavioral issues and shit.

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by DCO'sfan on Nov 16, 2011 12:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah

LOL – I got to a point where that was like the only way for me to make myself realize it was a serious problem.

I got completely mowed do on the Yankee-Os bet. I went on a cold streak and bet a MONSTER one to try and recoup all the losses. After the NYY blew a 4-0 lead to the Os with NOVA pitching I was on the verge of puking. Knew it was overdue to talk to someone about it.

And I don’t care if anyone picks on it…. it is funny in a way and I’m cool with it.

Will work for Recs.

by Wieters Wieners on Nov 16, 2011 12:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Heh, well, if you're sure.

I feel like I have kinda treated it as a joke, not realizing it was really fucking up your life some, so I feel bad for laughing about it so much.

"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP

by Eat More Esskay on Nov 16, 2011 12:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Nah brah.... we're good man.

I’ve joked about it enough on here I’d be a dick if I got mad about people picking on me about it.

I dropped at least 20k in 2011 though and with a second kid on the way, I knew I had to cut that off before it put my family in a bad place one day.

Met a lot of people at GA that would’ve loved to have been young and in my shoes and cut it off when I did (or so far). Most of them it cost them their families altogether.

Will work for Recs.

by Wieters Wieners on Nov 16, 2011 12:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Good shit man

keep it going.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Nov 16, 2011 12:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Haha

It looks like you’re telling EME to keep making fun of it.

lol

Will work for Recs.

by Wieters Wieners on Nov 16, 2011 12:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Either way is fine. haha

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Nov 16, 2011 12:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, I have to put it out there because I think the streak ends Saturday.

I have some childhood buddies coming in town that want to play some poker.

Will work for Recs.

by Wieters Wieners on Nov 16, 2011 11:56 AM EST up reply actions  

You can keep the streak going

Just clarify that you are clean from SPORTS gambling.

"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP

by Eat More Esskay on Nov 16, 2011 11:57 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, but I'll know.... we all will.

At Gambler’s Anoymous they even say that doing stock options breaks your streak. Any form of gambling at all. Maybe I’ll just stop going.

Will work for Recs.

by Wieters Wieners on Nov 16, 2011 11:58 AM EST up reply actions  

I was just about to post

that my dabbling in the stock market is much more gambling than when I play poker. At least in poker I have some sense of what I’m getting into and the odds.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Nov 16, 2011 11:59 AM EST up reply actions  

Yup

I played the options game for a year or so and got just MAULED. I got nuts though buying out of the money strikes all over the place looking for a huge score and they would just expire worthless or I’d be selling for like .05 a contract.

Will work for Recs.

by Wieters Wieners on Nov 16, 2011 12:00 PM EST up reply actions  

lol

sounds like a fun at least.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Nov 16, 2011 12:01 PM EST up reply actions  

I fell in love with a stock for 4 years and it ruined my life.

I was buying SIGM (around 2005 or something) for $7-$8 a share. It ended up going to $73 and I had more fucking money than I knew what to do with. My gambling gut took over and I started tripling down and buying more on margin and contracts left and right. Ended with nothing in like 2008.

I’m talking >$100,000

It was a brutal swing for a 24-25 year old. Still payin’ for it.

Will work for Recs.

by Wieters Wieners on Nov 16, 2011 12:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Also had 1,000 shares of AAPL

When I was in Iraq in 2007 around $80/share. It dropped a few bucks and I sold it and moved on.

Hahaha… not a week goes by I don’t think about that.

Will work for Recs.

by Wieters Wieners on Nov 16, 2011 12:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Ugh

those are both brutal stories.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Nov 16, 2011 12:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah

I was so fucking dumb. I had saved about 10-20k when I was 24, and then borrowed some. Had that amazing success in that SIGM stock and just went balls deep only to have it all crumble.

Those type of things don’t leave you. You just constantly think WHAT IF. But I can’t complain, I have a good job and family. Still have my health and a lot to be thankful for. At at least I was able to learn some hard lessons when I was/am young, and have time to recover.

If you make those mistakes in your 50s, you’re fucked.

Will work for Recs.

by Wieters Wieners on Nov 16, 2011 12:23 PM EST up reply actions  

and that's the whole thing
at least I was able to learn some hard lessons when I was/am young

If you don’t learn anything from it, you’ll go nowhere. But if you do, you’re so far ahead of the pack.

"Work fast. Throw strikes. Change speeds." Ray Miller

by Zeke McGeek on Nov 16, 2011 12:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Poker doesn't count.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Nov 16, 2011 11:58 AM EST up reply actions  

I agree.

That’s like social gambling… not the day-to-day betting >$500 on 3-4 games.

But still… I won’t be able to say “I haven’t gambled in _ days”… especially since we’re all going to Charles Town to play (not like a home game).

Will work for Recs.

by Wieters Wieners on Nov 16, 2011 11:59 AM EST up reply actions  

oh haha

Is there any way you can be in a casino and cruise past the blackjack tables and only play poker? Because I can’t.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Nov 16, 2011 12:00 PM EST up reply actions  

no.

Although its usually the reverse. Win money in poker, lose said money on blackjack.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Nov 16, 2011 12:01 PM EST up reply actions  

I know people will think its BS

But I may play blackjack or something and I’ve had good success at that. I studied card counting for awhile and read the books and practiced and everything and have done well with it. I dont know why the movies make card counting look like you have to be some MIT guru to do it.

It’s more a speed and quick-thinking exercies than advanced math. If you can add and subtract one quickly and cancel pairs quickly, anyone can do it.

Will work for Recs.

by Wieters Wieners on Nov 16, 2011 12:06 PM EST up reply actions  

I can count cards as well.

Kinda hard to do that at casinos though. They use multiple decks and if you’re not there from the beginning, it’s hard to keep a running count.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Nov 16, 2011 12:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Same...I've still found it more difficult to count.

I’ve played with friends a few times just for fun and win all of their money since we just play with a deck.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Nov 16, 2011 12:12 PM EST up reply actions  

They never bother me either

Because I normally have like 12-15 draft beer cups stacked in front of me and pretend Im drunk and not paying attention.

But when that deck hits -20 or whatever, I’m waiting to crush it.

Will work for Recs.

by Wieters Wieners on Nov 16, 2011 12:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh I pay decent attention when I play BJ

and when I’m sober it works pretty well. The problems arise when I’m not sober, which is often in a casino.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Nov 16, 2011 12:20 PM EST up reply actions  

I got more like Rain-Man when I'm drunk.

I focus better of something. It becomes easier to block out shit going around me and just fall into this dopey zone adding/subtracting/cancelling.

I fucking love Blackjack. I had the Basic Strategy pinned up above my monitors for years for all different deck scenarios.

Will work for Recs.

by Wieters Wieners on Nov 16, 2011 12:25 PM EST up reply actions  

This.

I should play blackjack before I go play poker and start to get drunk. Although I don’t think I can pull off the “I’m concentrating hard, but not LOOKING like I’m concentrating hard” face very well.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Nov 16, 2011 12:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Most of the dealers in Charles Town are pretty slow

Sometimes you get a lightning fast dealer and if you’re drunk you may as well forget it.

Also, so many players are slow making decisions you normally have plenty of time to glance away or look up and around and drink and talk and get back to the action. You just have to keep repeating the number in your head.

When the hand is over I normally grab the amount of chips the count is and shuffle it in one of my hands so I don’t forget before the next hand starts.

Will work for Recs.

by Wieters Wieners on Nov 16, 2011 12:30 PM EST up reply actions  

When the count gets really bad

Like 12 or 15 or something, I’ll just be like “I gotta fucking piss” and stagger away for like 10-15 minutes. Then come back and play the table minimum until the next shoe starts.

In Canada they have a revolving shoe (which should be fucking illegal) so you have no chance.

Will work for Recs.

by Wieters Wieners on Nov 16, 2011 12:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Apparently they've got the revolving shoes in Vegas too.

Haven’t been to check it out, but I can imagine that they would.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Nov 16, 2011 12:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Last several times I was there they had regular shoes at most places.

8 decks mostly, but still regular shoes. They all have automatic shuffles now, but the revolving shoes put the same cards back in the shuffler and never switch shoes.

Will work for Recs.

by Wieters Wieners on Nov 16, 2011 12:39 PM EST up reply actions  

That's the only place I've been to play.

The poker there can be ridiculous sometimes. There are lots of really bad players there.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Nov 16, 2011 12:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Honestly

they don’t care if you’re counting cards unless you’re making huge bets. I’m assuming you’re at tables with mins of between $10 and $25? They could care less about counting at those tables unless you start making $500 bets.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Nov 16, 2011 12:56 PM EST up reply actions  

I usually start out with about $500

Start my betting around $50 and hope I run into something good before something bad happens. I need time to let the SSS wash out.

In any case, you can’t start betting at the minimum because if the deck gets cold you have no where to go. You cant reduce your bets. Over several hours though I’ve been in several situations where I’m pumped up a few thousand since Blackjack can produce some insane runs.

If i have a few thousand in front of me and I run into a blazing hot shoe, I have no problem betting $500 a hand. But thats a big exception.

Will work for Recs.

by Wieters Wieners on Nov 16, 2011 1:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Funny thing is

In AC and Vegas you can find $5/$10/$25 tables anywhere.

When they opened up table games in Charles Town you couldn’t find anything for less than $100 a hand. Then it went to $50.

Now, on the weekends the best you’ll usually find is $25 min.

Funny West Virginia has higher limites than Vegas/AC/Biloxi but they have a monopoly over there.

Will work for Recs.

by Wieters Wieners on Nov 16, 2011 1:06 PM EST up reply actions  

$5/$10 are getting harder and harder to find in AC too

last time I went we went to 3 different casinos and saw a total of 3 $10 tables and they were packed. Seems like they’ve shifted the base level to $15 tables.

Vegas there are $5 tables all over the place which is great for groups and just getting drunk.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Nov 16, 2011 1:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes, I love that

I also love how in the low budget casinos in Vegas they have roulette where you only have to play one chip on the insside or three on the outside. My friends and I would take over an entire table and drink and play for hours.

by Stacey on Nov 16, 2011 1:20 PM EST up reply actions  

There's nothing more fun

than taking over a table with a group of friends and getting drunk and gratuitously celebrating. I have one guy who makes it a goal to has as many people staring at us as possible when we’re celebrating – it’s pretty hilarious.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Nov 16, 2011 1:25 PM EST up reply actions  

the last time I was in Vegas before this past weekend

on our last day we were all pretty broke so we put like $5 each into a Jackpot Party slot machine. Never did anyone celebrate harder over a slot machine. We were so into it that they asked for our IDs, because obviously adults wouldn’t behave that way.

by Stacey on Nov 16, 2011 1:27 PM EST up reply actions  

We always take over tables and get sloppy drunk

Then we all cheer against and berate the dealer and sing and do all kinds of stupid stuff.

My one buddy, whenever the dealer busts, yells “MILK it!!!!” and turns his thumb upside down like udders and we all take turns milking them.

Its a hoot.

Will work for Recs.

by Wieters Wieners on Nov 16, 2011 1:28 PM EST up reply actions  

I feel like I've missed out on something.

"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP

by Eat More Esskay on Nov 16, 2011 1:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Hahahahaha....

Everyone has different things they belt at a blackjack table when the dealer has 16.

I usually scream “TRUCK TRUCK TRUCK” while alternating with truck honking noises.

Or “PAINT IT, PAINT YOURSELF DAMMIT!!!!”

Or “MONKEY MONKEY MONKEY!!!”

Will work for Recs.

by Wieters Wieners on Nov 16, 2011 1:31 PM EST up reply actions  

I kinda want to go to AC or something with you guys.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Nov 16, 2011 1:40 PM EST up reply actions  

ROAD TRIP!

"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King

by duck on Nov 16, 2011 1:40 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm down.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Nov 16, 2011 1:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Wait...

is everyone road tripping to NJ? Because that should totally happen.

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Nov 16, 2011 1:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Hey

I forgot to mention last week when you guy’s were talking about it.

I lived in Bordentown for 5 years. There is more going on than you think with the base like 10 minutes away. We used to hang out there a lot.

Allstarz ended up being a pretty bangin’ sports bar. Have you been?

Mastories is awesome too.

Will work for Recs.

by Wieters Wieners on Nov 16, 2011 1:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Allstarz is where I go instead of Chickie and Petes

it’s awesome. The food is good and cheap too. But they have a much better TV situation than any other sports bar in the area.

Never gone to Mastoris though.

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Nov 16, 2011 1:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, Mastoris is just like a diner

Huge though. Like multiple rooms with different themes.

I love Alstarz man. The deck with the firepit in the fall is awesome. I could sit out there drinking around the plasmas forever.

Will work for Recs.

by Wieters Wieners on Nov 16, 2011 1:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Ah, that deck

I have great memories of that place…

I know where Mastoris is, just never been in. I only hang down there with my buddy, and being as it’s in NJ, there are about 400 diners between his house and there.

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Nov 16, 2011 2:01 PM EST up reply actions  

We probably ran into each other man

I was there like every night from the time they opened until I left in April 2008.

Will work for Recs.

by Wieters Wieners on Nov 16, 2011 2:03 PM EST up reply actions  

It's possible

Don’t remember when I started going, but it might have been right after then.

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Nov 16, 2011 2:04 PM EST up reply actions  

AC, bro.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Nov 16, 2011 1:51 PM EST up reply actions  

We'll be there to chaperone him.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Nov 16, 2011 1:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Really?

I’m down for a free suite.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Nov 16, 2011 1:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Sounds perfect.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Nov 16, 2011 1:54 PM EST up reply actions  

I've already invited Jerry Sandusky.

Hope you guys don’t mind.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Nov 16, 2011 1:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh good point.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Nov 16, 2011 1:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Whoa

That just happened

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Nov 16, 2011 1:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Says "Jerry" on ESPN, but I dunno.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Nov 16, 2011 2:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Gerry Sandusky is a local sportscaster

who is unrelated to Jerry. Just unfortunate enough to have the almost same exact name.

by Stacey on Nov 16, 2011 2:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Is it a hot tub time machine?

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Nov 16, 2011 1:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Make this happen

we can both not bet on things. It’ll still be fun as hell.

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Nov 16, 2011 1:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Is there any way you can gift your suite to friends and relatives?

Prob not I’m guessing.

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Nov 16, 2011 2:06 PM EST up reply actions  

No, I gotta be there when I check in....

With my ID, my CC and My Rewards card. They’re pretty strict about it.

Will work for Recs.

by Wieters Wieners on Nov 16, 2011 2:08 PM EST up reply actions  

It's a good time

I went last December for a bday weekend. Hotels are dirt cheap and the casinos are relatively empty and it makes it easy to play whatever you want.

Not the best time for meeting babes, but a savvy bro can get it done.

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Nov 16, 2011 2:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Full disclosure

I’ve never been to AC. Been to Vegas, but not AC. I’m the only one who lives in this state over the age of 21 that can say that.

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Nov 16, 2011 2:02 PM EST up reply actions  

I've never been to AC either.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Nov 16, 2011 2:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Mcguire AFB is almost exactly an hour from there.

I used to go A LOT of weekends (even by myself) when I was 21-23 and just play like 10 hours of $6-$12 limit poker at the Trop, sleep in my car for about 5 hours in the parking garage and do it all again.

I was doing that shit like every other weekend. Used to love playing limit…. until I played NL.

Will work for Recs.

by Wieters Wieners on Nov 16, 2011 2:05 PM EST up reply actions  

I've been to the FAA Tech Center nearby

But never actually out to AC.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Nov 16, 2011 2:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Are you FAA?

Did I know this?

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Nov 16, 2011 2:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Nah...I'm a contractor.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Nov 16, 2011 2:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Holy shit

What the fuck is going on here?

Contrary to popular belief, I am not Jewish.

by DCO'sfan on Nov 16, 2011 2:08 PM EST up reply actions  

I guess the FAA is exciting?

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Nov 16, 2011 2:09 PM EST up reply actions  

You're not FAA are you?

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Nov 16, 2011 3:35 PM EST up reply actions  

No, my stepdad was for a long time though

met a lot of people through him

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Nov 16, 2011 3:36 PM EST up reply actions  

My audits FAA...

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Nov 16, 2011 3:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Limit is sooooo much harder to control

I really can’t stand it especially when drunk and/or stupid people are playing – they just call call call.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Nov 16, 2011 3:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Boooo

There’s at least one of those guys at every table.

Last time I was in Vegas a guy was going off on me for splitting 66 against a dealer 6. “I’ve been playing for years and I’ve NEVER heard to split 6s.” Well … you’ve been playing blackjack wrong for years.

"Wouldn't it be cool to win for Baltimore? Wouldn't it make you happy if New York was mad? If Philly was mad or Boston was mad? Wouldn't that feel good?"
--Adam Jones

by CStoneNo37 on Nov 16, 2011 4:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Granted

That example is someone getting mad at me for playing a hand right…

"Wouldn't it be cool to win for Baltimore? Wouldn't it make you happy if New York was mad? If Philly was mad or Boston was mad? Wouldn't that feel good?"
--Adam Jones

by CStoneNo37 on Nov 16, 2011 4:58 PM EST up reply actions  

I split 6s

Although I’ve never split 66 against another 6. Maybe that guy was superstitious.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Nov 16, 2011 8:17 PM EST up reply actions  

But that's the best time to split 6s

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Nov 17, 2011 1:06 AM EST up reply actions  

we always go with monkey haha

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Nov 16, 2011 3:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Try the "MILK IT" thing...

It gets effing hilarious in no time.

Will work for Recs.

by Wieters Wieners on Nov 16, 2011 3:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Same!

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Nov 16, 2011 1:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah $5 tables were few and far between on my last AC trip

At Bally’s WWW there were empty $10 tables everywhere with dealers just standing there bored, so we asked a pitboss if he could lower it to $5 for us, and he was happy to do it, but only until 6pm.

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Nov 16, 2011 1:32 PM EST up reply actions  

But doesn't it just increase your odds about 30%?

Seems like a dangerous thing to try when the increased take is just 30%. I read the original book that “21” was based on, “Bringing Doiwn the House” and they were almost taken out by deputies at a casino in Louisiana.

"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King

by duck on Nov 16, 2011 12:49 PM EST up reply actions  

It's not illegal unless you have been ordered to not play at a given place.

It’s only frowned upon. At even a couple percentage advantage to a player can mean huge returns. Blackjack is the one place (outside of the poker room) you can actually swing the odd into your favor.

Even if you just play perfect basic strategy (which is as easy as memorizing a chart) they only have like a .5-1% edge on you. Which as far as gambling goes is your best bet by far.

Paying attention the shoe will easily swing it in your favor.

Will work for Recs.

by Wieters Wieners on Nov 16, 2011 12:52 PM EST up reply actions  

I mostly play games that are all luck

Blackjack is the only one with any kind of strategy. Paigow has a little bit I guess. But I also LOVE let it ride which is just straight luck. I have lost so much money at that game.

by Stacey on Nov 16, 2011 1:09 PM EST up reply actions  

There is some strategy to poker.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Nov 16, 2011 1:11 PM EST up reply actions  

It was actually $250! On a straight flush.

I had a lot of luck with Paigow last weekend, I think only once did I leave the table down. I never win (or lose) a ton of money but I probably made about $500 on that game in a couple days.

by Stacey on Nov 16, 2011 1:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Great read.

Did a whole project on that in calculus back in high school.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Nov 16, 2011 12:53 PM EST up reply actions  

The movie wasn't that bad.

Kate Bosworth is hot.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Nov 16, 2011 1:05 PM EST up reply actions  

True.

I should state that the only reason I watched the whole move was because Kate Bosworth was in it.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Nov 16, 2011 1:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Never bothered with the movie

when I found out they changed the ethnicity of most of the people to whiten it up for Hollywood. Can’t have more than 1 Asian, you know.

"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King

by duck on Nov 16, 2011 1:06 PM EST up reply actions  

I hated the movie

Because they made it seem like you needed an MBA in statistics to add and subtract 1.

It’s not like that. Once you know the rules its a quickness test. That’s it.

I mean, their system was elaborate but not for any advanced mathematical scheme. They just had a good system to avoid people having to play through shitty shoes.

Will work for Recs.

by Wieters Wieners on Nov 16, 2011 1:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah but

the book was 98% bullshit anyway.

"Wouldn't it be cool to win for Baltimore? Wouldn't it make you happy if New York was mad? If Philly was mad or Boston was mad? Wouldn't that feel good?"
--Adam Jones

by CStoneNo37 on Nov 16, 2011 5:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Good point.

The author did admit that he changed the personalities and whatnot of all characters. Not a stretch to think he changed ethnicity too.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Nov 16, 2011 8:18 PM EST up reply actions  

It sorta does. Depends on how much you play for.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Nov 16, 2011 12:00 PM EST up reply actions  

lol.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Nov 16, 2011 11:57 AM EST up reply actions  

It's crappy

but hell, if you want an angry birds player for 60 bucks, it might be worth it (only has amazon app store btw)

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Nov 16, 2011 11:43 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm using an approximately 6 year old laptop

that I may or may not have stolen from my old job (luckily that company doesn’t exist anymore or I wouldn’t post that) and a 3 year old netbook where the screen has to be positioned just right to be able to see anything.

Just a little tech context on my life so my considering of this tablet makes some sense. haha

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Nov 16, 2011 11:49 AM EST up reply actions  

I know it's only $60

but that thing looks like a piece of shit. It’s running an 18-month-old version of Android. It has access to the “cruz market,” whatever that is.

by PhilR8 on Nov 16, 2011 11:50 AM EST up reply actions  

a chatroom...

where you can link up w/ todd cruz, jose cruz and cruz bustamante!

"Three thousand years of beautiful tradition,from Moses to Sandy Koufax,YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT I'M LIVING IN THE FUCKING PAST!"- Walter Sobchak

by j.q. higgins on Nov 16, 2011 11:53 AM EST up reply actions  

I splurged for my dad's 60th birthday (November 26th)

And ordered the Kindle Fire. He lost his iPod and he was really upset about that, so my mom’s getting him a refurbished replacement. We’re spoiling him, but to be fair he hasn’t received a proper birthday gift in a while. I hope it works out. I’m a nook person, but the Fire is cheaper than the Nook tablet, although it’s still a pretty penny. He doesn’t know about any of this, nor does he know about his surprise party! It’s all very exciting!

Contrary to popular belief, I am not Jewish.

by DCO'sfan on Nov 16, 2011 10:58 AM EST up reply actions  

Cuellar

Cool timing of this article for me. I’m reading Bill James’ Politics of Glory and just got to the part where he talks about how teammates often turn out to have high comparison scores. The example he uses for pitchers is Cuellar/McNally.

Man, were they both good.

Like a bad, suave dude. You know what I'm sayin'. COOL. SC 7/24/08

by 33 on Nov 16, 2011 9:38 AM EST reply actions  

And this link

from the comments on the Cuellar article is another one to check out if you want a ‘feel good about Orioles history’ read.

Helped by defense

Like a bad, suave dude. You know what I'm sayin'. COOL. SC 7/24/08

by 33 on Nov 16, 2011 9:50 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm sort of surprised he was that old (32) when he joined the O's

Considering his performance in Houston (where he had good peripherals, but not so great “traditional stats”), I wonder what the reaction was when he joined the team?

by Chanumas on Nov 16, 2011 10:01 AM EST up reply actions  

Probably looked like an OK trade

per B-R:
December 4, 1968: Traded by the Houston Astros with Elijah Johnson (minors) and Enzo Hernandez to the Baltimore Orioles for John Mason (minors) and Curt Blefary.

As a 9 month old, I was fine with it.

Like a bad, suave dude. You know what I'm sayin'. COOL. SC 7/24/08

by 33 on Nov 16, 2011 10:18 AM EST up reply actions  

More
“When Mike came,” outfielder Paul Blair told the Baltimore Sun, referring to the 1968 trade that made the Houston Astros look ridiculous for giving up on him at age 32, “he solidified the whole pitching staff. We had complete confidence in him, Dave McNally, and Jim Palmer when they walked out on the mound. We knew that if we scored two or three runs, four at the most, we’d win the game. That’s a great feeling for a team.”

I’m sure this is enhanced by hindsight – Blair couldn’t have known this immediately.

Source

Like a bad, suave dude. You know what I'm sayin'. COOL. SC 7/24/08

by 33 on Nov 16, 2011 10:23 AM EST up reply actions  

Blair is a badass.

Blair knew.

Tommy hunter still sucks!

by Steve. on Nov 16, 2011 10:43 AM EST up reply actions  

i was reading about the a's...

potentially making an offer for grady sizemore. they also have scott sizemore. do you think they’d offer tom sizemore some sort of endorsement deal?

"Three thousand years of beautiful tradition,from Moses to Sandy Koufax,YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT I'M LIVING IN THE FUCKING PAST!"- Walter Sobchak

by j.q. higgins on Nov 16, 2011 9:47 AM EST reply actions  

That'd be a federal offense

You can only put mail in a mailbox.

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Nov 16, 2011 10:15 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah BUT

can’t you put a stamp on just about anything and call it mail?

by DaveAA on Nov 16, 2011 10:16 AM EST up reply actions  

I guess

as long as you write an address on it and it isn’t a bomb or something.

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Nov 16, 2011 10:18 AM EST up reply actions  

one time I mailed a potato

so I’m going with “yes”

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by Andrew_G on Nov 16, 2011 10:21 AM EST up reply actions  

http://www.flickr.com/photos/smithsonian/2584174182/

This city letter carrier posed for a humorous photograph with a young boy in his mailbag. After parcel post service was introduced in 1913, at least two children were sent by the service. With stamps attached to their clothing, the children rode with railway and city carriers to their destination. The Postmaster General quickly issued a regulation forbidding the sending of children in the mail after hearing of those examples.

by kba26 on Nov 16, 2011 10:37 AM EST up reply actions  

fuck

how am I going to send my (future, hypothetical) kids to college?

Tommy hunter still sucks!

by Steve. on Nov 16, 2011 10:44 AM EST up reply actions  

UPS or FedEx.

Or I hear that hitchhiking is pretty safe.

Mother, did it need to be so high.

by salvotion on Nov 16, 2011 11:47 AM EST up reply actions  

Anybody who's interested in the cutting edge of sabrmetrics

which is admittedly not many of you, but still…

check out Mike Fast’s stuff over at BP if you aren’t already.

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by Andrew_G on Nov 16, 2011 10:08 AM EST reply actions  

I'm just starting the steep part of the rise in the learning curve

Can’t see the cutting edge from here.

But thanks.

Like a bad, suave dude. You know what I'm sayin'. COOL. SC 7/24/08

by 33 on Nov 16, 2011 10:25 AM EST up reply actions  

whats cool about Fast's stuff

to quote tangotiger:

The closer you get to someone’s base physical and mental skills, the less observations you need. This is why scouts are so important. And the F/X and Trackman systems are, at their heart, scouting tools.

The line between the dogmas of “scouting” and “statisticing” is blurring. As it should.

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by Andrew_G on Nov 16, 2011 10:47 AM EST up reply actions  

I've only skimmed it so far,

but I wish that we had the data to use this sort of analysis to help settle the Palmer/McNally/Cuellar vs. Brooks/Belanger/Blair question.

"Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs." -- Earl Weaver

by Vuff on Nov 16, 2011 10:26 AM EST up reply actions  

Done reading the whole thing.

Very interesting. Since discovering DIPS, I’ve always thought that pitchers have more control over quality of contact than is assumed in a lot of DIPS-based articles and expansions. Looking forward to seeing where this goes.

"Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs." -- Earl Weaver

by Vuff on Nov 16, 2011 11:24 AM EST up reply actions  

I like to be aware of what everything is and at least be able to define most of the metrics.

But as far as using them to evaluate players I’m pretty much looking at WAR/OPS/VORP or whatever.

Will work for Recs.

by Wieters Wieners on Nov 16, 2011 11:36 AM EST up reply actions  

the spinning yarn article?

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Nov 16, 2011 2:56 PM EST up reply actions  

thoughts re: second base

if he could be had for about half of last year’s 5.8 million price tag, do you think kelly johnson would be a good fit? he’s a lefty, his power should play at opacy, good glove, can take a walk…he stunk last year in az, but his BABIP was well off his career marks (.311 career v. .257 last year).

"Three thousand years of beautiful tradition,from Moses to Sandy Koufax,YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT I'M LIVING IN THE FUCKING PAST!"- Walter Sobchak

by j.q. higgins on Nov 16, 2011 11:04 AM EST reply actions  

but would he come when he could be relegated to the bench in favor of Roberts?

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by Andrew_G on Nov 16, 2011 11:05 AM EST up reply actions  

you'd have to ask him...

fwiw, it looks like pads may be making o-dog available and will pick up most of HIS salary.

"Three thousand years of beautiful tradition,from Moses to Sandy Koufax,YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT I'M LIVING IN THE FUCKING PAST!"- Walter Sobchak

by j.q. higgins on Nov 16, 2011 11:11 AM EST up reply actions  

Can he play third?

We’re not really hurting for lefties are we? Does he take enough walks to be a legit leadoff guy (on this team at least) with power upside?

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by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Nov 16, 2011 11:10 AM EST up reply actions  

Career walk rate: 10.7%

Career slash line: .260/.343/.441

However, two of the last three seasons he’s batted in the .220 range and had an OBP only in the .300 range. On the other hand, the one season that qualifier doesn’t cover (2010), he put up .284/.370/.496.

If our hypothetical scenario is a $3 million price tag, I’d say what the hell, let’s start the Kelly Johnson era.

"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP

by Eat More Esskay on Nov 16, 2011 11:15 AM EST up reply actions  

As a one-year with a club option for a second year...

… to fill-in until Schoop is ready, there’s worse options.

I’m just not sure how much it matters having Johnson instead of Adams / Andino. If the pitchers are giving up 6 runs a game, does it matter if we lose 6-4 or 6-3?

by Tezcatlipoca on Nov 16, 2011 11:19 AM EST up reply actions  

There is that counterpoint.

I’m also tired of signing guys hoping they will bounce back. They don’t bounce back in Baltimore. That is a fact of life. Not only do they not bounce back, but they plummet through the floor and crash through layers of rock into the molten core of the planet, which does not heat them up but does completely incinerate them.

But, “We suck, so let’s go with replacement players” is wearying for a fan too. I don’t know.

"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP

by Eat More Esskay on Nov 16, 2011 11:25 AM EST up reply actions  

They can when we go after the right guys.

Hardy was good idea. Lee was a defensible, but not great, idea. Vlad was just a silly idea.

The main things are (1) not overpaying and (2) not blocking young guys.

"Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs." -- Earl Weaver

by Vuff on Nov 16, 2011 11:27 AM EST up reply actions  

I think that every signing for 2012 needs to be considered for the goals of 2013 and 2014.

And I think that signing a 2B absolutely is dependent on what the pitching looks like. At this point, I’m fine with Andino starting the season at 2B. His glove is not going to destroy our defense. His bat is not going to make or break our offense. It costs us a valuable tool off the bench, but oh well.

It also leaves us $3 million to do something else, like sign a Japanese pitcher (not Darvish) or throw a bunch of minor-league or cheap contracts at the likes of Rich Harden, Jon Garland, and Jeff Francis to see what sticks.

by Tezcatlipoca on Nov 16, 2011 11:32 AM EST up reply actions  

Jeff Francis sucks, has always sucked and will always suck.

Throwing cheap contracts at pitchers isn’t a bad idea, though. Duchscherer never turned into anything, but the O’s could give out 3 contracts like that per year and if one hits, it’d pay off for three years worth of misses.

"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP

by Eat More Esskay on Nov 16, 2011 11:37 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, for a cheap stop gap, sure

I wouldn’t want a longterm commitment. It just seems like he fits the mold of Hardy, Reynolds, Reimold – low average, deceivingly better OBP, above average power in a good year, etc. It almost seems like we’re slowly building a team of all of the exact same kind of players if we get him.

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Nov 16, 2011 11:27 AM EST up reply actions  

Actually, I think I'm completely opposed to Kelly Johnson now.

Apparently, he’s right on the line between Type A and Type B free agent, which means blowing more draft picks for a stop-gap.

by Tezcatlipoca on Nov 16, 2011 1:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Obviously I take back my lukewarm support if he is a type A FA.

"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP

by Eat More Esskay on Nov 16, 2011 2:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Stop me if you've heard this one before...

Team hasn’t won anything since ‘83.
New season starts with delusions of adequacy.
Absolutely suck for 4/5 of season.
Play fairly decently once it’s garbage time.
Rinse.
Repeat.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/teams/nyi

"If you don't like the effect, don't produce the cause."

- George Clinton

by sluggo 2.0 on Nov 16, 2011 11:18 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

The Isles have a few real good young players

but I don’t think it’s quite the “cavalry” we were supposed to have.

(see how I called them “The Isles” like I know what I’m talking about! haha!)

Tommy hunter still sucks!

by Steve. on Nov 16, 2011 11:32 AM EST up reply actions  

And just when they get good

we’ll be calling them the Nordiques.

"If you don't like the effect, don't produce the cause."

- George Clinton

by sluggo 2.0 on Nov 16, 2011 11:37 AM EST up reply actions  

The King of Marigold was in the kitchen

cooking breakfast for the Queen.

"If you don't like the effect, don't produce the cause."

- George Clinton

by sluggo 2.0 on Nov 16, 2011 11:28 AM EST up reply actions  

On Peachtree Street, the live re-enactment of Plants vs. Zombies wasn't going so well.

"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP

by Eat More Esskay on Nov 16, 2011 11:30 AM EST up reply actions  

I want to talk about books again

I tore through Pride and Prejudice last night when I couldn’t sleep. I have a sneaky feeling that I was so engrossed in the book that I forgot to sleep… but boy, was it worth it! I always love a good Jane Austen fix.

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by DCO'sfan on Nov 16, 2011 11:58 AM EST reply actions  

None of this matters.

It’s what you read these books ON that we want to know.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Nov 16, 2011 11:59 AM EST up reply actions  

Does it even count if it's not on an iPad?

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Nov 16, 2011 12:00 PM EST up reply actions  

The ipad just TAKES what it wants.

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by twistedlogic on Nov 16, 2011 12:01 PM EST up reply actions  

oh

I wasn’t really following that conversation. I read some books on my nook, but I bought this Jane Austen anthology long before I bought a nook. I frequently refer back to it when I need to find meaning in my life. :P

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by DCO'sfan on Nov 16, 2011 12:01 PM EST up reply actions  

huh?

I’m thoroughly confused.

Contrary to popular belief, I am not Jewish.

by DCO'sfan on Nov 16, 2011 12:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Never mind.

I was poking fun at myself.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Nov 16, 2011 12:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Thought you were asking about drug habits

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by 33 on Nov 16, 2011 12:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh that too.

It was full of double meaning.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Nov 16, 2011 12:33 PM EST up reply actions  

never read Austen

but once I saw a dramatic re-telling of Wuthering Heights in semaphores.

I'll develop my own image. I'm an original man. A one and only. I just need some help.

by Andrew_G on Nov 16, 2011 12:09 PM EST up reply actions  

I am in the midst of some Le Carre

the trailer the new film of his Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy just looks stunning.

I'll develop my own image. I'm an original man. A one and only. I just need some help.

by Andrew_G on Nov 16, 2011 12:25 PM EST up reply actions  

oh, god, yes...

i am pretty fired up for that. also looks like gary oldman really in his element.

"Three thousand years of beautiful tradition,from Moses to Sandy Koufax,YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT I'M LIVING IN THE FUCKING PAST!"- Walter Sobchak

by j.q. higgins on Nov 16, 2011 12:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Peter Gent, the wide receiver-turned-novelist

He died about a month or so ago & since then I’ve been rereading his books.

The most famous, North Dallas 40, is a thinly disguised autobiography & does for football what Ball Four did for baseball.

The others, North Dallas After 40 (retirement has not been kind to our hero), The Francise & The Conquering Heroes are all straightforward 3rd person novels, but still offer an insider’s perspective of how fantastic sports can be on the field (or court in the case of the last one), and such a cesspool in the offices of the owners, GMs, university presidents & ADs.

Oh, and I don’t read my books “on” anything (except occasionally weed). Bound pieces of paper that I can hold in my hand, and nothing but.

"If you don't like the effect, don't produce the cause."

- George Clinton

by sluggo 2.0 on Nov 16, 2011 12:12 PM EST up reply actions  

If SCTV were still around, I bet they'd do a segment called Austen City Limits, hee-hee

We still suck, but on Sept. 29, 2011, we did a Very Cool Thing. Yeah, we did that.

by Titov on Nov 16, 2011 12:13 PM EST up reply actions  

I want to create a fantyasy football app for like $1 (per season)

That sends you alerts when someone gets hurt and who to pickup RIGHT AWAY. Our waivers are open and I’m usually at the bar and miss out on the good pickups.

Will work for Recs.

by Wieters Wieners on Nov 16, 2011 12:27 PM EST up reply actions  

An app like that would blow up my girlfriends phone this season

Notable injuries on her team: Matt Schaub, Darren McFadden, LaGarrette Blount, Andre Johnson, Jahvid Best, Jacoby Ford

by kba26 on Nov 16, 2011 12:30 PM EST up reply actions  

I've had similar injuries.

Schaub, Johnson, Mathews, etc

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by twistedlogic on Nov 16, 2011 1:36 PM EST up reply actions  

This reminds me of that sprint commercial where the team doctor is checking on that guy with the bum knee.

“What does this mean about my leg??”

“Oh..it means I’m dropping you from my fantasy team!”

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by twistedlogic on Nov 16, 2011 1:39 PM EST up reply actions  

that sounds tasty...

this crazy project i’ve been working has sort of put the kibosh on my kitchen excursions this fall, but i’m thinking about getting some gingerbread reciped fired up for the holidays. so tasty.

"Three thousand years of beautiful tradition,from Moses to Sandy Koufax,YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT I'M LIVING IN THE FUCKING PAST!"- Walter Sobchak

by j.q. higgins on Nov 16, 2011 12:38 PM EST up reply actions  

For christmas i'm gonna get the meat grinder attachment for my KitchenAid

the only thing that would have elevated the dish even more would be some homemade sausage

by kba26 on Nov 16, 2011 12:40 PM EST up reply actions  

my fiance...

just got the pasta attachment and is rocking that pretty well. warms the heart.

"Three thousand years of beautiful tradition,from Moses to Sandy Koufax,YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT I'M LIVING IN THE FUCKING PAST!"- Walter Sobchak

by j.q. higgins on Nov 16, 2011 12:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Terps with their first test tomorrow.

Lets get a thread going for it.

Will work for Recs.

by Wieters Wieners on Nov 16, 2011 12:42 PM EST up reply actions  

A few people on here post fairly regularly on the Testudo Times gamethreads

which i’d encourage. Its one of the better SBN sites that i’ve found.

by kba26 on Nov 16, 2011 12:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Hmmmm... maybe I'll swing over tomorrow.

Bama is ranked like 17th last I checked.
We could get shellacked.
I really hope we surprise people this season because we aren’t near anyone’s radar. Just read through ESPN The Mag’s college preview and they have us ranked 67th.

Will work for Recs.

by Wieters Wieners on Nov 16, 2011 12:53 PM EST up reply actions  

The players aren't bad

The roster is just incredibly thin and young. Howard, Stoglin, and Faust are all well above average players, and Len may be as well once his suspension is over. The biggest problem is that they’re only 7 scholarship players right now.

by kba26 on Nov 16, 2011 1:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Who wants to go to Maryland-Kentucky next year Nov 9th

in Brooklyn to open the Barclay’s Center?

Say no to Prince Fielder in 2012.

by Knubles and Bits on Nov 16, 2011 5:27 PM EST up reply actions  

In

short trip for me.

The result will be depressing, though.

"Wouldn't it be cool to win for Baltimore? Wouldn't it make you happy if New York was mad? If Philly was mad or Boston was mad? Wouldn't that feel good?"
--Adam Jones

by CStoneNo37 on Nov 16, 2011 5:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Depends on who Kentucky loses after this year.

Maryland has some talent coming in next year.

Say no to Prince Fielder in 2012.

by Knubles and Bits on Nov 16, 2011 6:19 PM EST up reply actions  

That is depressing

I would rather have more athletic teams than not have them if we can support it financially, but honestly I don’t care about the teams getting cut.

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Nov 16, 2011 12:55 PM EST up reply actions  

It's going to happen everywhere.

Most sports that don’t bring in revenue are going to get cut.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Nov 16, 2011 12:58 PM EST up reply actions  

I have strong opinions about this too

But I don’t know how much argument I have left in me for today. If you’re not bringing in any revenue, why should you get a free education?

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Nov 16, 2011 1:01 PM EST up reply actions  

That's one school of thought.

I’m somewhat against giving free education to anyone even if they do play a sport that brings in revenue.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Nov 16, 2011 1:04 PM EST up reply actions  

I try to rationalize it by thinking

The revenue being brought in by the sport that the scholarship-athletes are playing can in turn lower costs for all students, and by that logic it should be a good thing. If you’re getting a scholarship for playing a sport and your team is not breaking even, it’s a money-losing enterprise and the scholarship would be better served if it were academic.

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Nov 16, 2011 1:14 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree with that.

Although I do know a number of the arguments against giving scholarships to athletes includes the fact that most of the money they bring in from sports stays within the athletic department rather than going to the school itself. The rest of the university is paid for via donors and research funds.

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by twistedlogic on Nov 16, 2011 1:17 PM EST up reply actions  

She got non-rev coaching hires right

but that’s about it.

"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King

by duck on Nov 16, 2011 1:03 PM EST up reply actions  

so fucked.

They used to be really good at so many sports, too.

Tommy hunter still sucks!

by Steve. on Nov 16, 2011 1:14 PM EST up reply actions  

the NFL and Marissa Miller, a perfect combination

Kinda NSFW

i still say she got hosed in the hottie bracket

clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...

by Gamecock24 on Nov 16, 2011 1:16 PM EST reply actions  

so...

now that we’re all riled up, how about a friendly game of world domination to calm the nerves?

"Three thousand years of beautiful tradition,from Moses to Sandy Koufax,YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT I'M LIVING IN THE FUCKING PAST!"- Walter Sobchak

by j.q. higgins on Nov 16, 2011 1:25 PM EST reply actions  

aight.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Nov 16, 2011 1:26 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm in

but only if I start with Western United States. Cupertino must be protected at all costs.

by kba26 on Nov 16, 2011 1:27 PM EST up reply actions  

what's your e-mail again?

think i have twisted and gc covered.

"Three thousand years of beautiful tradition,from Moses to Sandy Koufax,YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT I'M LIVING IN THE FUCKING PAST!"- Walter Sobchak

by j.q. higgins on Nov 16, 2011 1:32 PM EST up reply actions  

We playin'?

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Nov 16, 2011 1:42 PM EST up reply actions  

shit...

i’m getting called into a quick meeting.

back in 15

"Three thousand years of beautiful tradition,from Moses to Sandy Koufax,YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT I'M LIVING IN THE FUCKING PAST!"- Walter Sobchak

by j.q. higgins on Nov 16, 2011 1:43 PM EST up reply actions  

seriously!

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Nov 16, 2011 1:45 PM EST up reply actions  

They're ridiculous!

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Nov 16, 2011 1:48 PM EST up reply actions  

i'm actually getting dragged in to a meeting too

so prob count me out now

clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...

by Gamecock24 on Nov 16, 2011 1:50 PM EST up reply actions  

I am NOT being dragged into meetings.

Count me in!! IN I tell ya!

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Nov 16, 2011 1:53 PM EST up reply actions  

okay...

who’s still in? anybody else want in?

"Three thousand years of beautiful tradition,from Moses to Sandy Koufax,YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT I'M LIVING IN THE FUCKING PAST!"- Walter Sobchak

by j.q. higgins on Nov 16, 2011 1:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Me.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Nov 16, 2011 2:00 PM EST up reply actions  

good to go...

just set for three given gc’s time constraints

"Three thousand years of beautiful tradition,from Moses to Sandy Koufax,YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT I'M LIVING IN THE FUCKING PAST!"- Walter Sobchak

by j.q. higgins on Nov 16, 2011 2:08 PM EST up reply actions  

sure

clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...

by Gamecock24 on Nov 16, 2011 1:28 PM EST up reply actions  

oh my god.

I’m really disturbed by what just happened in the conversation with no indents. Holy fuck.

Contrary to popular belief, I am not Jewish.

by DCO'sfan on Nov 16, 2011 2:11 PM EST reply actions  

What are you disturbed about?

The convo or the fact that there were no indents?

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Nov 16, 2011 2:12 PM EST up reply actions  

BOTH

Definitely both.

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by DCO'sfan on Nov 16, 2011 2:13 PM EST up reply actions  

This is offseason.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Nov 16, 2011 2:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Haha... true.

It can ge weird around these parts.

Will work for Recs.

by Wieters Wieners on Nov 16, 2011 2:15 PM EST up reply actions  

and cupcakes.

Mother, did it need to be so high.

by salvotion on Nov 16, 2011 2:17 PM EST up reply actions  

We got a little bit of both today...

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by DCO'sfan on Nov 16, 2011 2:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Cupcake cakes are abominations.

"Human beings make life so interesting. Do you know, that in a universe so full of wonders, they have managed to invent boredom?" ~ Death

by NSOsFan on Nov 16, 2011 2:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Freakin' bike lanes, man...

"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King

by duck on Nov 16, 2011 2:33 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah what is that

some girl I know had a cupcake cake at her wedding

by Stacey on Nov 16, 2011 3:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Cupcakes - So hot right now.

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Nov 16, 2011 3:12 PM EST up reply actions  

I've seen that a bunch now.

I’m fully planning to bake my own cake should I get married.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Nov 16, 2011 3:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Also not a terrible idea

We had my sister bake one for us, she did a really good job with it too.

by Steven_G on Nov 16, 2011 3:15 PM EST up reply actions  

I did that for my cousin's wedding.

Turned out really well.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Nov 16, 2011 3:16 PM EST up reply actions  

My brother had my mom and sister bake a billion cookies for his wedding

They got a token cake just for the bride’s father—he really wanted to watch them cut it together…and then he was in the bathroom when they did!

Tommy hunter still sucks!

by Steve. on Nov 16, 2011 3:28 PM EST up reply actions  

My best friend did that at his wedding

I was actually a pretty nice idea as they were able to offer a variety of flavors for their guests to enjoy.

by Steven_G on Nov 16, 2011 3:14 PM EST up reply actions  

I had em at Cam's 1st B-day party

Cupcakes are the new cake.

Will work for Recs.

by Wieters Wieners on Nov 16, 2011 3:23 PM EST up reply actions  

They did that on Brothers and Sisters.

Contrary to popular belief, I am not Jewish.

by DCO'sfan on Nov 16, 2011 3:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Aw, Brothers and Sisters

I loved Rob Lowe in that show. I mean, he was no Rob Lowe in West Wing, but he was pretty tasty.

by Stacey on Nov 16, 2011 3:28 PM EST up reply actions  

That show was my guilty pleasure

I miss it.

Contrary to popular belief, I am not Jewish.

by DCO'sfan on Nov 16, 2011 3:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Cupcakes themselves are amazing

Cupcake cakes are Satan’s breath materialized.

"Human beings make life so interesting. Do you know, that in a universe so full of wonders, they have managed to invent boredom?" ~ Death

by NSOsFan on Nov 16, 2011 3:27 PM EST up reply actions  

XM is giving away a Thanksgiving Martha Stewart cookbook

The PDF is here.

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Nov 16, 2011 4:08 PM EST up reply actions  

A Martha Steward Thanksgiving: Thank You, Lord, That I Walked

Now don’t do that AGAIN, got it?!?

We still suck, but on Sept. 29, 2011, we did a Very Cool Thing. Yeah, we did that.

by Titov on Nov 16, 2011 11:15 PM EST up reply actions  

It's FREE!

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Nov 17, 2011 1:00 AM EST up reply actions  

I've got a serious chipotle craving.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Nov 16, 2011 2:17 PM EST reply actions  

Pick me up some!

anyone else want Chipotle? Twisted is going.

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Nov 16, 2011 2:18 PM EST up reply actions  

You wanted guac, right?

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Nov 16, 2011 2:19 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Around here we're always on the lookout for the next running gag.

"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP

by Eat More Esskay on Nov 16, 2011 2:21 PM EST up reply actions  

I've seen the poop in the kitchen thing surface like 20 times.

Did I tell you guys they put a real sneaky camera in there now. Outta of the blue!

If you didn’t really look at it, it resembles a smoke detector. Apparentely Im one of the last to find out!

Will work for Recs.

by Wieters Wieners on Nov 16, 2011 2:22 PM EST up reply actions  

I wish we had a camera in the kitchen where I work.

There is a food thief running rampant in our midst.

Mother, did it need to be so high.

by salvotion on Nov 16, 2011 2:24 PM EST up reply actions  

The old pantry room bandit

A couple in every shop.

Will work for Recs.

by Wieters Wieners on Nov 16, 2011 2:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Here, there is one prime suspect and she's been up to no good for a couple years.

Would be nice to get some solid evidence.

Mother, did it need to be so high.

by salvotion on Nov 16, 2011 2:30 PM EST up reply actions  

"NOT TODAY JEFF!"

“TODAY I’VE GOT BOARS HEAD!”

by DaveAA on Nov 16, 2011 2:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Maybe they suspected you and that was their way of testing their suspicion.

"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP

by Eat More Esskay on Nov 16, 2011 2:30 PM EST up reply actions  

I want to find out who keeps farting by the printer.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Nov 16, 2011 2:33 PM EST up reply actions  

It wasn't me!!

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Nov 16, 2011 2:40 PM EST up reply actions  

The evidence says otherwise...

1) You are the one who always smells something foul near the printer.
2) You are the one with a stated appreciation for Chipotle.

If need be, I refer you to 56 U.S.C. § 43:

He who smelt it, dealt it.

by Tezcatlipoca on Nov 16, 2011 2:49 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

That's an extra $2

Bastards.

Contrary to popular belief, I am not Jewish.

by DCO'sfan on Nov 16, 2011 2:19 PM EST up reply actions  

I went to Qdoba today.

It’s good, but it’s not as good.

"Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs." -- Earl Weaver

by Vuff on Nov 16, 2011 2:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Work Gripe of the Day

I’m working in a piece of software designed by the federal government (Issue #1). I have a task of updating some logic boxes with new code, which I find annoying (Issue #2). One of these lines of code is, “ASSIGN {Variable Name} = {Value}” (Issue #3 – specifics removed so I don’t get fired). When I select the nice little drop-box in the operator section, there is no ‘=’ available, only ‘:=’. (Issue #4). My supervisor insists that I can just select ‘=’ (Issue #5). When I even try to put it in manually, the software pitches a shitfit and gives me errors (Issue #6). Supervisor insists again. (Issue #7).

Shit like this pisses me off more than it should and that pisses me off even more.

by Tezcatlipoca on Nov 16, 2011 2:24 PM EST reply actions  

If something doesn't work the first time, just try again and again until it still doesn't work.

Then blame the failure on the employee. It’s a basic tenent of management.

Mother, did it need to be so high.

by salvotion on Nov 16, 2011 2:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Random and dumb question

So, all those O’s pets calendar shots they did a few months back for next year’s calendar. They’ll all have the wrong hat on now, huh?

"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King

by duck on Nov 16, 2011 2:38 PM EST reply actions  

Ha,

I guess so, unless they’re all in “O’s” hats when they’re wearing them. The players often aren’t wearing hats, from what I recall.

"Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs." -- Earl Weaver

by Vuff on Nov 16, 2011 2:40 PM EST up reply actions  

speaking of O's pet calendars

When October turned to November and I had to trade in Jake Arrieta for Mike Gonzalez, that was a sad day.

Also they don’t wear uniforms in the calendar, they were street clothes.

by Stacey on Nov 16, 2011 3:13 PM EST up reply actions  

it would nice to talk about electronic devices

without getting in this moronic pissing contests over what’s better.

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Nov 16, 2011 2:50 PM EST reply actions  

That's what I was hoping for

I didn’t even want to discuss iPad. It’s out of my price range for what I’m going to use it for. But none the less, iPad gets brought up because it’s the internet and that’s just what happens.

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Nov 16, 2011 2:53 PM EST up reply actions  

I didn't either!

I just wanted to vent my frustration that kindle doesn’t have free 3G.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Nov 16, 2011 2:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Exactly.

What were we arguing about again?

3G should be a free service for all.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Nov 16, 2011 3:15 PM EST up reply actions  

the kindle e-readers, not the fire, do

but the ones with 3-g cost more to begin with. No monthly charge though.

by DaveAA on Nov 16, 2011 3:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Yea this.

Gimme free 3G!

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Nov 16, 2011 3:17 PM EST up reply actions  

No, you can surf the internet with it...

and email and stuff. But using the e-reader for doing that stuff isn’t exactly a great user experience. It’s slow, black and white, and unwieldy.

by DaveAA on Nov 16, 2011 3:18 PM EST up reply actions  

oh yeah?

Sorry I pulled a twisted and talked about something I’ve never owned

;-)

by Stacey on Nov 16, 2011 3:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Woahhh

Easy there.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Nov 16, 2011 3:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes, in theory it can be done

But nobody in their right mind wants to do it that way.

"Work fast. Throw strikes. Change speeds." Ray Miller

by Zeke McGeek on Nov 16, 2011 3:23 PM EST up reply actions  

the Kindle Touch cannot use 3G to surf the web

the Kindle Keyboard (what they now call the Kindle 3) can. I actually surfed the web a little bit on my Kindle Touch last night via wifi, and it wasn’t as horrible of an experience as you might think. It would easily do in a pinch.

by PhilR8 on Nov 16, 2011 3:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh, yeah I've only got the keyboarded one.

If given the choice of checking a website on that, or waiting around 10 hours to get to a better device, I’d wait.

by DaveAA on Nov 16, 2011 3:27 PM EST up reply actions  

I was driving my buddy to the airport a couple weeks ago. He just bought the new iPhone 4S and had to ask whether I was going to drop this android nonsense even though all performance reports show that the iPhone is better. Apple users love to point out the superiority of their devices. And then he said, “Siri, give me a map of LAX.” Siri, then gave him a map of the Ontario airport. Oops.

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Nov 16, 2011 3:14 PM EST up reply actions  

ahahahhaha that's awesome.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Nov 16, 2011 3:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Didn't realize that iPad has reached Mike Vick territory

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Nov 16, 2011 3:16 PM EST up reply actions  

I'll talk about Mike Vick anytime

iPad has taken far more lives though

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Nov 16, 2011 3:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Probably cuz you were farting over by the printer.

take your fucking gas to the bathroom!

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Nov 16, 2011 2:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Other side.

Also, I’m chained to my desk. I can’t even reach the printer.

by Tezcatlipoca on Nov 16, 2011 2:57 PM EST up reply actions  

okay

let’s talk Windows Phone

by PhilR8 on Nov 16, 2011 3:02 PM EST up reply actions  

the iphone is BETTER

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Nov 16, 2011 3:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Fuck windows phone!

I’m rocking DOS phone

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Nov 16, 2011 3:05 PM EST up reply actions  

I would totally buy one of those.

"Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs." -- Earl Weaver

by Vuff on Nov 16, 2011 3:10 PM EST up reply actions  

My phone's a hemi

has a NOS kit on it. Word.

"Human beings make life so interesting. Do you know, that in a universe so full of wonders, they have managed to invent boredom?" ~ Death

by NSOsFan on Nov 16, 2011 3:18 PM EST up reply actions  

EyeFon.

"Human beings make life so interesting. Do you know, that in a universe so full of wonders, they have managed to invent boredom?" ~ Death

by NSOsFan on Nov 16, 2011 4:13 PM EST up reply actions  

C++, you plebes

THAT’S where it’s at.

"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King

by duck on Nov 16, 2011 3:44 PM EST up reply actions  

My phone runs in COBALT only.

It’s kind of a rule.

Will work for Recs.

by Wieters Wieners on Nov 16, 2011 3:45 PM EST up reply actions  

You mean COBOL? :P

"Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs." -- Earl Weaver

by Vuff on Nov 16, 2011 4:42 PM EST up reply actions  

My FORTRAN phone with the rotary dial rocks

But the punch cards are getting a little annoying.

"Work fast. Throw strikes. Change speeds." Ray Miller

by Zeke McGeek on Nov 16, 2011 3:49 PM EST up reply actions  

I just make signals out of smoke

My friends know what’s up.

Tommy hunter still sucks!

by Steve. on Nov 16, 2011 3:56 PM EST up reply actions  

HTC Touch Pro2, in case anyone was wondering

I’ll probably go back to Droid when I’m due my upgrade, though. The Droid RAZR looks pretty sweet.

by Stacey on Nov 16, 2011 3:18 PM EST up reply actions  

ew you have a Windows Mobile device

I’m talking Windows Phone! It’s different!

by PhilR8 on Nov 16, 2011 3:26 PM EST up reply actions  

ew yourself!

What’s the difference?

by Stacey on Nov 16, 2011 3:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Curtains.

"Human beings make life so interesting. Do you know, that in a universe so full of wonders, they have managed to invent boredom?" ~ Death

by NSOsFan on Nov 16, 2011 3:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Yea it does.

I’m considering waiting for the iphone 5 or getting one of the new droids when my contract is up in June.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Nov 16, 2011 3:27 PM EST up reply actions  

I had the Incredible and loved it, but then the charging port broke

so I’ve been living off of hand me down phones until my upgrade date. But Dec 28th is almost here!

by Stacey on Nov 16, 2011 3:30 PM EST up reply actions  

the Incredible is a really good phone.

Worked flawlessly for me until I dropped it and shattered the screen pretty good. The phone still worked after that but a little wonky. I still like the Incredible more than my Thunderbolt.

Mother, did it need to be so high.

by salvotion on Nov 16, 2011 4:13 PM EST up reply actions  

I have an original HTC touch from the first production run in Taiwan.

One of the advantages of having lived in China when it was released and having connections and such. It was a good phone from a time before smartphones were in everyone’s pockets.

Now I have a little tiny flip phone and not even a texting plan.

Yesterday was better. GET OFF MY LAWN YOU DAGNABBIT KIDS.

by Tezcatlipoca on Nov 16, 2011 3:58 PM EST up reply actions  

OH YEAH?

I had this phone. I loved it. Still the best keyboard I’ve ever used on a device. I also had an extended battery for it and it was about almost two inches thick.

by PhilR8 on Nov 16, 2011 4:01 PM EST up reply actions  

yeeeaaahh

The HTC Home widget! I had that on my 6700 for a while. And my Mogul. Ah, the good ol’ days.

by PhilR8 on Nov 16, 2011 4:14 PM EST up reply actions  

in fact

here’s what I was rocking in 2006:

Check out that sweet tabbed homescreen plugin! Overclocked to 624 MHz! Sweet, sweet 1X speeds!

by PhilR8 on Nov 16, 2011 4:19 PM EST up reply actions  

hahaha that's awesome

what bone/bones did you break that required surgery?

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Nov 16, 2011 6:29 PM EST up reply actions  

fifth metacarpal on the right hand

basically the pink bone in the hand. Broke it right where the knuckle is. Now I have screws and a plate in that hand.

by PhilR8 on Nov 16, 2011 10:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Ah the boxer's fracture

I broke my scaphoid (tiny little lima bean shaped bone) and it was such a pain in the ass because it wasn’t bad enough to require surgery up front, but that little bone doesn’t get much blood flow so it takes for fucking ever to heal. I was in a elbow to finger tip cast for 4 damn months.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Nov 17, 2011 1:11 AM EST up reply actions  

That Bundy kid sounds promising

better rush him up to the pros now so he can fix everything right away.

by Drubert90 on Nov 16, 2011 3:30 PM EST reply actions  

TROLL!!!!!!

FLAGGED!!!

Will work for Recs.

by Wieters Wieners on Nov 16, 2011 3:31 PM EST up reply actions  

lol

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Nov 16, 2011 3:32 PM EST up reply actions  

In all seriousness though

I do like what I’m hearing about him, hopefully he can put it all together for us here in Baltimore in a couple of seasons.

by Drubert90 on Nov 16, 2011 3:34 PM EST up reply actions  

fuck that shit.

We should have been best overall blog too. I demand a recount.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Nov 16, 2011 3:53 PM EST up reply actions  

GOOOOOOOOOOD MORNING VIETNAM!!

*pops cork on champagne and pours everyone a glass

Now I say we take twisted’s advice and all fucking blow ourselves to celebrate this win.

"And, I'm guessing our soldiers are happy about this, that they're leaving Iraq. It is no fun being in a country where there is crumbling infrastructure and an ignorant population. But they said they are happy to come home anyway."

by WestcoastO'sFan on Nov 16, 2011 4:16 PM EST reply actions  

Westie, you'd better sit down for this.

Heidi Watney is off of NESN next season.

The Twitter says she’ll be doing Lakers broadcasts instead. If there are ever NBA games again, I guess.

"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP

by Eat More Esskay on Nov 16, 2011 4:17 PM EST up reply actions  

good for her

talk about a step up. Wow.

by PhilR8 on Nov 16, 2011 4:20 PM EST up reply actions  

ohhhhhh dear

Westie, if you ever need to get totally smashed and cry about it, we’re here for ya.

Tommy hunter still sucks!

by Steve. on Nov 16, 2011 4:20 PM EST up reply actions  

That's great!

I won’t say I screwed the Red Sock out of her, but I totally did.

I could totally become a Lakers fan, I have no real NBA allegiances. GO LAKERS! BA BOOM!

"And, I'm guessing our soldiers are happy about this, that they're leaving Iraq. It is no fun being in a country where there is crumbling infrastructure and an ignorant population. But they said they are happy to come home anyway."

by WestcoastO'sFan on Nov 16, 2011 4:25 PM EST up reply actions  

What a fantastic picture.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Nov 16, 2011 4:27 PM EST up reply actions  

What's so great about that picture?

To me, it doesn’t look any better than any random picture of her.

by Holymittens on Nov 16, 2011 4:44 PM EST up reply actions  

she looks hotter here.

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Nov 16, 2011 4:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Blondes all look the same to you, don't they?

RACIST.

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Nov 16, 2011 4:49 PM EST up reply actions  

hehe

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Nov 16, 2011 4:51 PM EST up reply actions  

To you, every picture of a hottie without dyed black hair and dark makeup isn't so great.

She looks amazing in that picture.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Nov 16, 2011 4:49 PM EST up reply actions  

I didn't say she didn't look good

I said she looks pretty much the same as she does in any picture. In fact, a 5 second Google search finds this one, where I think she looks better:

by Holymittens on Nov 16, 2011 4:54 PM EST up reply actions  

i like the eyes in the first pic.

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Nov 16, 2011 4:56 PM EST up reply actions  

she's interviewing Papelbon there?

fuck. she’s got the fuck me eyes in the first pic.

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Nov 16, 2011 5:11 PM EST up reply actions  

oh, I dunno

I made that up. Forced smile = talking to Papelbon sucks = failed joke

by PhilR8 on Nov 16, 2011 5:23 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree, Holymittens.

I think she’s attractive, but she’s not as gaga-worthy as everyone makes her seem.

by Tezcatlipoca on Nov 16, 2011 4:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Sweet.

Less competition.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Nov 16, 2011 4:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Seriously,

I really don’t understand nitpicking her features. If she is hot, she is hot. She is hot, really fucking hot.

"And, I'm guessing our soldiers are happy about this, that they're leaving Iraq. It is no fun being in a country where there is crumbling infrastructure and an ignorant population. But they said they are happy to come home anyway."

by WestcoastO'sFan on Nov 16, 2011 5:12 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't necessarily think I'm nitpicking...

I’m just saying, I had classes with just as attractive ladies at Maryland, I had students and coworkers in China, and I have one coworker now who blows Heidi out of the water.

Also, nobody, absolutely nobody compares to this:

by Tezcatlipoca on Nov 16, 2011 5:17 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't know who that is from the picture

I feel like I should recognize her, but I’m blanking.

She’s not as hot as Allison Brie, though.

by Holymittens on Nov 16, 2011 5:20 PM EST up reply actions  

All in favor of starting an offseason hottie thread raise your hand!

*Raises hand.

"And, I'm guessing our soldiers are happy about this, that they're leaving Iraq. It is no fun being in a country where there is crumbling infrastructure and an ignorant population. But they said they are happy to come home anyway."

by WestcoastO'sFan on Nov 16, 2011 5:27 PM EST up reply actions  

hand raised

Mother, did it need to be so high.

by salvotion on Nov 16, 2011 5:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Rising

Oh, and hand raised

Will work for Recs.

by Wieters Wieners on Nov 16, 2011 6:41 PM EST up reply actions  

That's Kate Beckinsale, son.

And don’t you ever forget it.

One of my dreams is to start microbrewing and make a “Kate Beckons Ale”

by Tezcatlipoca on Nov 16, 2011 7:51 PM EST up reply actions  

She's farrrr hotter than Allison Brie.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Nov 16, 2011 8:19 PM EST up reply actions  

I felt the same way until I saw her on video

she just doesn’t look all that special in a photograph, but in motion, she just pops.

by PhilR8 on Nov 16, 2011 4:54 PM EST up reply actions  

She'll be on your coast now, man.

It was meant to happen.

"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP

by Eat More Esskay on Nov 16, 2011 4:28 PM EST up reply actions  

That is the best picture of her I've ever seen

You’re choosing all the pics for the next hottie bracket

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Nov 16, 2011 4:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Seriously.

Amazing.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Nov 16, 2011 4:38 PM EST up reply actions  

The video of her watching the Red Sox collapse in studio

next to Dan Shaughnassasassssy is just as good, if not better. I’m a true Heidi believer.

Red Sox fans are losing everyone!

by PhilR8 on Nov 16, 2011 4:44 PM EST up reply actions  

link?

"And, I'm guessing our soldiers are happy about this, that they're leaving Iraq. It is no fun being in a country where there is crumbling infrastructure and an ignorant population. But they said they are happy to come home anyway."

by WestcoastO'sFan on Nov 16, 2011 4:44 PM EST up reply actions  

The left half of that video is amazing.

"And, I'm guessing our soldiers are happy about this, that they're leaving Iraq. It is no fun being in a country where there is crumbling infrastructure and an ignorant population. But they said they are happy to come home anyway."

by WestcoastO'sFan on Nov 16, 2011 5:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes, she's moving closer to me.

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Nov 16, 2011 4:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Mike Vick!

But seriously, Mike Vick is the richest bankrupt guy ever

Fuck that guy in the ear. Asshole.

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Nov 16, 2011 4:24 PM EST reply actions  

He ought to fucking blow himself too.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Nov 16, 2011 4:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Mike Vick is actually doing the right thing.

He declared BK in 2008 and is still paying off creditors and the government from that bankruptcy. He is netting around $1.88 million per year after payoffs to creditors, government, lawyers, and accountants are included. He is not currently bankrupt but he was when he was sitting in prison.

http://www.cnbc.com/id/44327928

Mother, did it need to be so high.

by salvotion on Nov 16, 2011 4:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Well then by all means let's give that man a hand

Whatever, I just hate him and it makes me sick to see him making (and spending) that much money. Even if he was poor I’d advocate him being ear fucked.

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Nov 16, 2011 4:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Most of his "spending" is going to the government.

4.9 million was taxes, 1.3 was to bankruptcy services.

His living expenses are 73,000. Unless I’m majorly misreading the article, that’s almost nothing for an athlete to be spending.

by Holymittens on Nov 16, 2011 4:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Still hate him.

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Nov 16, 2011 4:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Yup. The TMZ article is totally misleading.

I understand not liking the guy for dog fighting, but what he is doing here is a good thing.

Mother, did it need to be so high.

by salvotion on Nov 16, 2011 4:53 PM EST up reply actions  

TMZ misleading?

How dare you say such a thing!!! TMZ is a respected institution of journalism.

"And, I'm guessing our soldiers are happy about this, that they're leaving Iraq. It is no fun being in a country where there is crumbling infrastructure and an ignorant population. But they said they are happy to come home anyway."

by WestcoastO'sFan on Nov 16, 2011 5:16 PM EST up reply actions  

A good thing? What the fuck? He's doing what he's legally and contractually required to do.

Since when is that a good thing? I paid taxes last year – is that a good thing?

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Nov 16, 2011 6:34 PM EST up reply actions  

What I'm saying is, if you are going to knock Vick for something

this isn’t really the thing to do it about. He is obligated to pay, and he is doing so.

Mother, did it need to be so high.

by salvotion on Nov 16, 2011 6:43 PM EST up reply actions  

It's an obligation - it's not a good deed.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Nov 16, 2011 6:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Well

you didn’t really correct yourself, but sure.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Nov 16, 2011 6:45 PM EST up reply actions  

There was no need for correction.

You interpreted “good thing” to mean “good deed” in the sense that he did something above and beyond what is expected of him. That is not what I meant. I apologize for the confusion.

Mother, did it need to be so high.

by salvotion on Nov 16, 2011 6:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes

that is how I interpreted you saying he was “doing the right thing” and “doing a good thing.” lol

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Nov 16, 2011 6:49 PM EST up reply actions  

A good thing

would be if he sent $100k to Best Friends Animal Sanctuary who’s taking care of all the dogs he tortured but didn’t get around to killing before his arrest.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Nov 16, 2011 6:42 PM EST up reply actions  

hahahahahaha oh man that is hilarious.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Nov 16, 2011 6:48 PM EST up reply actions  

ahahahahah

awesome.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Nov 16, 2011 8:20 PM EST up reply actions  

With the exception of his mortgage his living expenses are 73,000

and that’s only from july-september. Non-mortgage expenses of 25k per month? Yeah fuck him in his ear.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Nov 16, 2011 6:34 PM EST up reply actions  

A man's gotta feed his family

His family of solid gold hookers who are on a strict diet of diamond crusted iPads

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Nov 16, 2011 10:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Epic offseason droppings today yall...

Over 700 comments by 7pm.

Not too shabby for a dry Wednesday Os news-wise.

Will work for Recs.

by Wieters Wieners on Nov 16, 2011 6:43 PM EST reply actions  

Well, we did hit on a couple of contentious topics today...

1) Gambling addiction.
2) Tablet fanboyism.
3) The sexiest women in the world (after Kate Beckinsale).

by Tezcatlipoca on Nov 16, 2011 7:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Needs more cupcakes.

And bike lines and shit like that.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Nov 16, 2011 8:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Omg

Cirque de soleil was incredible. I was breathless by the end.

Contrary to popular belief, I am not Jewish.

by DCO'sfan on Nov 16, 2011 10:41 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

I found this super interesting

The forgotten bird logos

Basically it shows that there were multiple variations of the cartoon bird, not just the 2 we see that supposedly were blended to make the new one.

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Nov 16, 2011 10:46 PM EST reply actions  

When I moved into my house, my internet connection was called Amy (my old roommate's name)

And like my second night here, some creeper knocked on my door at like 11 p.m. and said, “Are you Amy? I noticed a new wireless internet connection in the neighborhood.” He then told me how he’s up all night on the internet monitoring Facebook and Craigslist, whatever that means. I decided maybe having a girl’s name as my internet wasn’t a good idea, so I changed it to Brian Matusz. Now, whenever my internet is being unreliable, I’m just like, “Yeah, that sounds about right. Stupid Brian Matusz.”

by Stacey on Nov 16, 2011 10:56 PM EST reply actions  

wow

when he asked if you were Amy, you should’ve just closed the door right in his face.

by PhilR8 on Nov 16, 2011 11:02 PM EST up reply actions  

I shouldn't have opened the door in the first place

and then when he asked me that I had no idea what he was talking about until he mentioned the internet. Thankfully he moved out about a month after and a normal family moved in next door.

Anyway my internet has been going in and out all night which is what made me think of that story.

by Stacey on Nov 16, 2011 11:13 PM EST up reply actions  

So your saying

Brian Matusz has been going in and out all night?

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Nov 17, 2011 6:25 AM EST up reply actions  

It's good to know somebody out there is monitoring craigslist...

And that guy seems like a creep!

If you look at those UZR ratings or whatever

by dfa on Nov 16, 2011 11:28 PM EST up reply actions  

I feel like I just went back in time to the last time you posted that story on here.

"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP

by Eat More Esskay on Nov 16, 2011 11:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Have I told that before?

Guess I’ve officially run out of things to say. Time to hang ’em up.

by Stacey on Nov 17, 2011 6:04 AM EST up reply actions  

I ran out of things to say a long time ago and it hasn't stopped me yet.

"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP

by Eat More Esskay on Nov 17, 2011 11:18 AM EST up reply actions  

With the real life supercommittee coming to an end,

whatever happened to that committee Andy MacPhail was on? Does it have anything to do with the bullshit about the Astros moving to the AL?

If you look at those UZR ratings or whatever

by dfa on Nov 16, 2011 11:29 PM EST reply actions  

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