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While perhaps as Orioles fans we have come to expect public shamings like L'affair De La Cava, it is not the end of the world. There will probably be more similar happenings, but there will be good days, too and maybe...just maybe, one day the good stuff will outweigh the bad.

Camden Depot: The Problem with LaCava's Decision The Depot's take.

Orioles Insider: Gold Glovers Wieters and Markakis (and Showalter) talk about awards - baltimoresun.com Reaction to the Gold Gloves. 

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Guts throws three scoreless, assumes spokesman role for 'murikans.

On this day in 1971, Pat Dobson no hit the Yomiuri Giants as the O's commenced an exhibition tour of Japan.

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Metaphor? No. Semaphore!

Also, Matt’s still with the Sox as of right now, according to Rawlings.

"Human beings make life so interesting. Do you know, that in a universe so full of wonders, they have managed to invent boredom?" ~ Death

by NSOsFan on Nov 2, 2011 8:18 AM EDT reply actions  

Without a GM...

… the O’s didn’t submit proper paperwork regarding the post-season 40-man roster and Wieters was claimed by the White Sox.

by Tezcatlipoca on Nov 2, 2011 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

It should be noted that Wieters is the only player in the entire organization that another MLB team was willing to have on their roster.

by Tezcatlipoca on Nov 2, 2011 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Your faith that there will be good days is amusing.

When the owner passes away and his sons inherit, things could get far worse than they are already. Hard to imagine, isn’t it?

"The key to winning baseball games is pitching, fundamentals, and three-run homers."

by ThreeRunHomer on Nov 2, 2011 8:20 AM EDT reply actions  

they couldn't get a lot worse

they could get a lot better. you never know.

look at Selig’s kid and the Brewers….

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Nov 2, 2011 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

I found that funny too.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Nov 2, 2011 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

why?

"If it sounded like I was delighted by Tony Romo’s failure last week, I was."
-chris cooley

by j.q. higgins on Nov 2, 2011 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well I guess it was initially funny, but then sad once it settles in.

There will be no good times for O’s fans, unless you consider stupid little bullshit like meaningless gold gloves or the occasional unlikely, but still meaningless, comeback against a much better team.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Nov 2, 2011 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Ouch. I hate truth.

It’s stupid.

Contrary to DCO'sfan, I am Jewish.

by J(O's)elskIL on Nov 2, 2011 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

goddamn you

Tommy hunter still sucks!

by Steve. on Nov 2, 2011 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

From the year end power rankings on CBS

Ouch.

2011 eulogy: There’s a Facebook petition to change the team name to The Baltimore Diaper Caddies. Offseason to-do list: Figure out whether Mark Reynolds is a first baseman or a third baseman (hint: he’s a first baseman), then fill the vacant corner slot accordingly … Call in an outside consultancy, like McKinsey & Co. or The Maddux Bros. LLC, to figure out why the organization is incapable of developing a starting pitcher. I’m actually serious about that one … Design a uniform patch to commemorate the inevitable 15th consecutive losing season. Odds of achieving Cardinals-like glory in 2012: Nil.

"Human beings make life so interesting. Do you know, that in a universe so full of wonders, they have managed to invent boredom?" ~ Death

by NSOsFan on Nov 2, 2011 8:40 AM EDT reply actions  

Sweet...Gold Gloves!

Although this appears to prove that you don’t actually have to hit (cough…Markakis….cough) to win a GG.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Nov 2, 2011 8:41 AM EDT reply actions  

Good thing Jeter didn’t play RF this year.

"Work fast. Throw strikes. Change speeds." Ray Miller

by Zeke McGeek on Nov 2, 2011 8:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

FTFY

Good thing Jeter didn’t play RF SS this year.

he's no pedro strop! - j.q. higgins

by fishoutawata on Nov 2, 2011 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

CD article...
At some point, it might actually be best for Buck to take a year off from the dugout and try being a General Manager. I don’t think that is best for the Orioles in the long run. However, if they want to move quickly in free agency they need to start getting their plan in order.

ZK said it best – we’re not going to solve anything in Free Agency, so why set an artificial deadline to hire a GM? Let’s get the best one possible, rather than settling (coughSTOCKSTILLcough) for the nearest available option. The Free Agency deadline should have zero impact on our GM search. Get the GM right, and you’ll get the free agents right.

It’s not like we’re gonna miss out on a chance at Prince Fielder or Albert Pujols. We’re never in those discussion, anyway.

"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King

by duck on Nov 2, 2011 9:13 AM EDT reply actions  

Exactly

Someone linked a story yesterday to the top 50 FA’s this winter. The guy did a ‘best fit’ for each one. Only one did he put the Orioles: Darren Oliver. I don’t think waiting for a GM is going to hurt our chances at overpaying an ancient reliever. And even if it did, maybe that’s a good thing.

"Tiger got to hunt, bird got to fly; Man got to sit and wonder 'why, why, why?' Tiger got to sleep, bird got to land; Man got to tell himself he understand.."

by tflach2 on Nov 2, 2011 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Darren Oliver? Lee Smith doesn't have a phone number listed?

"Human beings make life so interesting. Do you know, that in a universe so full of wonders, they have managed to invent boredom?" ~ Death

by NSOsFan on Nov 2, 2011 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Arthur Rhodes just won a World Series.

Maybe now he’d like to finish his career where he started it. :p

"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP

by Eat More Esskay on Nov 2, 2011 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was about to write something about this. My quick reaction is FUUUUUUCK NO.

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Nov 2, 2011 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

fuck no to making buck temp GM.

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Nov 2, 2011 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Although

on the other hand, if the best GM for the long run isn’t available this year, wouldn’t it be best to just get an interim who will do no harm and some obvious things (don’t spend on anything stupid, draft well, and spend some more cash internationally) and wait until the GM you want is available?

Just like our free agent outlook – if the right long term pieces aren’t there I’d rather wait.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Nov 2, 2011 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

it seems like the right pieces are available.

Angelos and/or Showalter just don’t seem to want those pieces to run the team.

Mother, did it need to be so high.

by salvotion on Nov 2, 2011 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Are they? Other than Lacava?

I know it’s been said before, but what do we really know about any of these people? None of them seem incredibly inspiring.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Nov 2, 2011 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

no reason to assume a year from now that other guys will be available who'd take the job

i’m fine with waiting a few more weeks to get the right guy.

i’m not fine with going a year without a real GM. it just puts off for another year what needs to be done.

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Nov 2, 2011 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

and we've been down that road before, too.

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Nov 2, 2011 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree that there's no reason to think the right candidate will be around and willing next year

that should be somebody’s job in the warehouse to figure out, but I think hiring the wrong person just to have a “real GM” could do a lot more harm than having an interim for a year.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Nov 2, 2011 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

who are we waiting for

and whoever that person is will have the same problems as lacava.

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Nov 2, 2011 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't know the answer to that question

or the solution to that problem, but signing somebody that isn’t right surely isn’t it.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Nov 2, 2011 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think any team could find a good GM in any offseason.

Just based on numbers alone, across 30 baseball front offices you have to figure there are more than five men or women who could handle the responsibility. It seems to be the standard procedure to allow those people to interview with other teams for a promotion.

I mean, what, is there someone out there who needs just one more season in their current job to be ready to be a GM? I find this unlikely.

"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP

by Eat More Esskay on Nov 2, 2011 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Any team might be able to

but the O’s? I’m not as confident.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Nov 2, 2011 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ok. So what is your argument here?

Is the right GM not available now? Are the O’s being too hasty in trying to decide? Or are the O’s simply incapable of selecting a quality GM no matter what?

Mother, did it need to be so high.

by salvotion on Nov 2, 2011 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't know the answer to any of these questions

my only point was that they shouldn’t rush to hire somebody just to hire somebody.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Nov 2, 2011 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Simply incapable

would be a great slogan for the O’s.

"The key to winning baseball games is pitching, fundamentals, and three-run homers."

by ThreeRunHomer on Nov 2, 2011 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ironically, if the problem is not being able to fire/reassign Stockstill, then Stockstill is the one person who won't have that problem.

"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP

by Eat More Esskay on Nov 2, 2011 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Buck is the defacto GM

I’m not sure we are waiting for anyone.

If you look at those UZR ratings or whatever

by dfa on Nov 2, 2011 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

andrew friedman

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Nov 2, 2011 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not that we have a chance of landing him.

"Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs." -- Earl Weaver

by Vuff on Nov 2, 2011 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

and friedman turned down the opportunity? i'm shocked.

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Nov 2, 2011 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is the ultimate frustrating thing.

It’s not like it was a surprise that MacPhail was going to leave.

"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP

by Eat More Esskay on Nov 2, 2011 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

what?!

you doubted the bossman’s power of persuasion?

"If it sounded like I was delighted by Tony Romo’s failure last week, I was."
-chris cooley

by j.q. higgins on Nov 2, 2011 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

AM =/ jury

Baseball =/ mesothelioma

he's no pedro strop! - j.q. higgins

by fishoutawata on Nov 2, 2011 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is kind of twisted, but this is another reason why I hate MFY & PHN fans.

They don’t have to put up with this shit.
Not only am I a more die-hard fan than any of those bandwagon MF’ers for still showing up after 14 years, I should get a g*ddamn medal.

“Pedroia the Destroyah”. That’s cute. Get fucked.

From the Land of Pleasant Living...

by OEutaw on Nov 2, 2011 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

more roch...

“we were more than competitive with our offer.”

wait, so andy is still running the team or do they have a random andy macphail quote generator in the press office?

"If it sounded like I was delighted by Tony Romo’s failure last week, I was."
-chris cooley

by j.q. higgins on Nov 2, 2011 9:52 AM EDT reply actions  

Last time I heard that out of the O's front office...

It was Mark Teixeira.

Or was it Mike Mussina?

"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King

by duck on Nov 2, 2011 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

adam dunn...

carlose pena…vlad guerrero (the first time)…story of our lives.

"If it sounded like I was delighted by Tony Romo’s failure last week, I was."
-chris cooley

by j.q. higgins on Nov 2, 2011 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

I definitely remember it for Victor Martinez

I'll develop my own image. I'm an original man. A one and only. I just need some help.

by Andrew_G on Nov 2, 2011 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

aw, yeah!

let’s go another round.

"If it sounded like I was delighted by Tony Romo’s failure last week, I was."
-chris cooley

by j.q. higgins on Nov 2, 2011 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

for another pit beef and some tater salad, I could go a few more

I'll develop my own image. I'm an original man. A one and only. I just need some help.

by Andrew_G on Nov 2, 2011 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's gotta be tater salad?

"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King

by duck on Nov 2, 2011 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

Is there ever a bad time for a quote from The Wire?

I say no.

"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP

by Eat More Esskay on Nov 2, 2011 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

Which reminds me: the Emmy for Most Entertaining TV Criminal in a Supporting Role goes to:

Saul Goodman! Guy kills me with some line every time he comes on. The crooked mall lawyer’s crooked mall lawyer!

We still suck, but on Sept. 29, 2011, we did a Very Cool Thing. Yeah, we did that.

by Titov on Nov 2, 2011 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

better call saul!

"If it sounded like I was delighted by Tony Romo’s failure last week, I was."
-chris cooley

by j.q. higgins on Nov 2, 2011 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

are you listening, kba?!

"If it sounded like I was delighted by Tony Romo’s failure last week, I was."
-chris cooley

by j.q. higgins on Nov 2, 2011 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Does he get more screen time in Seasons 3,4 & 5?

I feel like we didn’t see that much of him in 1 & 2.

"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King

by duck on Nov 2, 2011 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

more Roch
Watson could get another call. He flew to the Dominican Republic yesterday, but he’s not hard to reach.
I’m hearing that the Orioles already came up with three new candidates and were considering other names.
….In the meantime, manager Buck Showalter, director of baseball operations Matt Klentak and other front office personnel are handling the duties formerly performed by Andy MacPhail. That’s as close as you’re going to get to business as usual.
Klentak is widely viewed as a future GM, so this is good practice. He’s sharp and he’s pretty much on top of everything. And Showalter figures to be involved anyway, to whatever degree.

It’s not going to be Watson. You don’t lose your main target, have Watson sitting around, then interview three more guys, and then hire Watson. It would be beyond insulting. How many different ways is that to say, “you’re not our first choice?”

I mean, I guess the Orioles might do that because, well, they’re the Orioles.

Also, Klentak above is apparently “widely viewed as a future GM?” Is this the O’s subtly dropping another in-house candidate since Stockstill has had such push-back on the interwebz?

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Nov 2, 2011 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well...its gonna be pretty obvious to everyone now that they weren't the O's first choice.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Nov 2, 2011 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Damn...a double post and I didn't even hit post twice!

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Nov 2, 2011 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

klentak was pushed early in the game...

and rumblings came from the warehouse that “he’s not ready yet.” or somesuch.

"If it sounded like I was delighted by Tony Romo’s failure last week, I was."
-chris cooley

by j.q. higgins on Nov 2, 2011 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Or he doesn't have the incriminating photographs in his arsenal.

Who the hell knows?

"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP

by Eat More Esskay on Nov 2, 2011 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

or...

he’s distrusted on account of being a space alien. i mean, klentak? really.

"If it sounded like I was delighted by Tony Romo’s failure last week, I was."
-chris cooley

by j.q. higgins on Nov 2, 2011 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

I, for one, welcome our new alien overlords.

"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP

by Eat More Esskay on Nov 2, 2011 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, that's what i've heard about klentak.

john henry believed the same thing about theo when he tried to billy beane. he thought he was too young to be GM, but since his first choice turned him down, he went with theo anyways. in the o’s case, i have a feeling stockstill will be viewed above klentak.

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Nov 2, 2011 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

ugh.

i hope someone is viewed above Stockstill

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Nov 2, 2011 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was kind of curious who'd be making the tender/non-tender decisions, as I doubt we'll have a GM by that deadline.

Now we know.

"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP

by Eat More Esskay on Nov 2, 2011 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, but...

…someone like Watson, who isn’t viewed as the next top GM in waiting, might not be secure enough in his future to say “thanks, but no thanks” like LaCava.

Which is why, amazing as this is, this is still salvagable for the O’s. (and I mean the GM position, not the PR – we’re royally fucked in that department)

But I had them ranked as:

LaCava
Dipoto
Levine
Watson

Levine hasn’t even had an interview & speculation was that the reason this process was taking so long was so we could interview him after the Series. Well, Series over – get him on the phone. Then get him under contract & in the office.

From the Land of Pleasant Living...

by OEutaw on Nov 2, 2011 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kim Ng sure seems like she'd be willing to take a general manager position, regardless of the team.
In 2005, Ng was interviewed for the vacant position of Dodgers general manager. No female has ever been a GM in any major sport. The Dodgers hired Ned Colletti as their GM, who immediately kept Ng on as his assistant. In 2008, she was interviewed for the general manager position with the Seattle Mariners, but the position went to Jack Zduriencik. In 2009, she interviewed for the San Diego Padres’ General Manager position, which went to Jed Hoyer.

Does anyone really think it’d be a bad idea? I think that first, it’s apparent that she’s piqued interest as a quality candidate based on her own ability. But there’s also the fact that being multiple “firsts”, I can’t imagine anyone would work harder than her to make the club better, just to prove any naysayers wrong. I feel like it is a bit discriminatory to even mention that as a factor, because again, she seems abundantly qualified regardless of her gender or ethnicity, but… well… there it is.

by Tezcatlipoca on Nov 2, 2011 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

On the bright side

If Kim Ng takes over and it’s a colossal failure, we’ll still go down in history as the first team to hire a female GM. Just a tick below the Brooklyn Dodgers!

Contrary to popular belief, I am not Jewish.

by DCO'sfan on Nov 2, 2011 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe there's someone who was really inspired by MacPhail.

I don’t believe that it was a money issue, in any case. As bad as I think the O’s are, I don’t think their heads are that far up their butts.

"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP

by Eat More Esskay on Nov 2, 2011 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

no, think this is right...

it has to ultimately boil down to control at least on some level.

"If it sounded like I was delighted by Tony Romo’s failure last week, I was."
-chris cooley

by j.q. higgins on Nov 2, 2011 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

is the Taiwan game on MLB.com anywhere?

I have some mindless Excel bullshit to do today and it’d be great if I could put the game on my right monitor while I do it… but I can’t find any way to watch the entire game. Is there a way?

by PhilR8 on Nov 2, 2011 10:47 AM EDT reply actions  

Ahh Onion...

Theo on Wrigley Field

"Human beings make life so interesting. Do you know, that in a universe so full of wonders, they have managed to invent boredom?" ~ Death

by NSOsFan on Nov 2, 2011 11:10 AM EDT reply actions  

LOL

he's no pedro strop! - j.q. higgins

by fishoutawata on Nov 2, 2011 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I find this hard to laugh at

because fenway is its own shithole. It’s just not funny because he could be saying the same things about his old park. THERE"S NO INTERNAL CONTINUITY, GODDAMMIT

Tommy hunter still sucks!

by Steve. on Nov 2, 2011 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

rec'd for truth
because fenway is its own shithole

what an awful place to spend an evening. the “glamour” factor wears off pretty quick when you see all the plexiglass owners’ boxes behind homeplate. in its current state, the park looks like something designed by baron von frankenstein, and any olde timey feel is compromised by the clumsy additions. and the amenities (food, pissoirs, etc) are for shite.

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Nov 2, 2011 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

its pronounced "fronkenstien"

I'll develop my own image. I'm an original man. A one and only. I just need some help.

by Andrew_G on Nov 2, 2011 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

right, and it's eye-gor, now.

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Nov 2, 2011 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's half the reason I thought it was so funny.

"Work fast. Throw strikes. Change speeds." Ray Miller

by Zeke McGeek on Nov 2, 2011 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

wow...

so, talk about soul crushing.

"If it sounded like I was delighted by Tony Romo’s failure last week, I was."
-chris cooley

by j.q. higgins on Nov 2, 2011 11:40 AM EDT reply actions  

I'm fine with Guts as the US spokesplayer-- in fact, aren't we missing sth obvious here? Why not just name him the O's player-GM?

Gotta wonder what Sid’s b’day party is like. I mean, when you’re the largest (and I do mean largest) drug wholesaler in the Netherlands Antilles, you prolly have a pretty rollicking party. Just think of the Whack-a-Judge game, for starters.

Oh, and PAC 12 Wk 10 is up (early for your convenience). You don’t want to take any more $ off those nice men from Vegas in sharkskin suits, just keep ignoring it. Oh, and keep betting the SEC!

We still suck, but on Sept. 29, 2011, we did a Very Cool Thing. Yeah, we did that.

by Titov on Nov 2, 2011 11:42 AM EDT reply actions  

sid's b'day party...

reminds me: back when marion barry ran for mayor post-conviction, david letterman had a top ten list which was top ten discarded campaign slogans. my favorite was, “imagine the victory party.”

"If it sounded like I was delighted by Tony Romo’s failure last week, I was."
-chris cooley

by j.q. higgins on Nov 2, 2011 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

For the bored, a little comparison between CC projections and reality

http://www.camdenchat.com/2011/11/2/2530925/community-projections-vs-reality-round-one-the-infield

This one covers the infield and Matt Wieters. Check it out and see how we did.

"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP

by Eat More Esskay on Nov 2, 2011 11:55 AM EDT reply actions  

Do we still suck?

"And, I'm guessing our soldiers are happy about this, that they're leaving Iraq. It is no fun being in a country where there is crumbling infrastructure and an ignorant population. But they said they are happy to come home anyway."

by WestcoastO'sFan on Nov 2, 2011 12:38 PM EDT reply actions  

ooooo oooooo !!!!

Call on me! I know this one!!!

"Work fast. Throw strikes. Change speeds." Ray Miller

by Zeke McGeek on Nov 2, 2011 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just like yer mom.

Mother, did it need to be so high.

by salvotion on Nov 2, 2011 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

dont disrepsek my moms yo

"And, I'm guessing our soldiers are happy about this, that they're leaving Iraq. It is no fun being in a country where there is crumbling infrastructure and an ignorant population. But they said they are happy to come home anyway."

by WestcoastO'sFan on Nov 2, 2011 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nope. World Series hangover.

Okay, someone else’s World Series.

"Human beings make life so interesting. Do you know, that in a universe so full of wonders, they have managed to invent boredom?" ~ Death

by NSOsFan on Nov 2, 2011 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Please, no spoilers people

I am 2 epis into the 3rd seas

"And, I'm guessing our soldiers are happy about this, that they're leaving Iraq. It is no fun being in a country where there is crumbling infrastructure and an ignorant population. But they said they are happy to come home anyway."

by WestcoastO'sFan on Nov 2, 2011 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Srry, haven't had my soy milk, hemp infused mocha yet.

"And, I'm guessing our soldiers are happy about this, that they're leaving Iraq. It is no fun being in a country where there is crumbling infrastructure and an ignorant population. But they said they are happy to come home anyway."

by WestcoastO'sFan on Nov 2, 2011 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think that's all 1st season stuff :P

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by NSOsFan on Nov 2, 2011 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm amazed that after making millions, he still drove that Aztek.

I mean, couldn’t he upgrade to…well…anything else?

Mother, did it need to be so high.

by salvotion on Nov 2, 2011 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

it suited his character, no?

Remember, he didn’t want to decorate his apartment either. He just took what was already there.

And when he was forced to upgrade from the Aztec, he chose a 2-door Yaris, which is the very definition of a no-frills point-a-to-point-b driving appliance.

by PhilR8 on Nov 2, 2011 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Doesn't Gus from Psych drive a Yaris?

"And, I'm guessing our soldiers are happy about this, that they're leaving Iraq. It is no fun being in a country where there is crumbling infrastructure and an ignorant population. But they said they are happy to come home anyway."

by WestcoastO'sFan on Nov 2, 2011 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yaris is still an upgrade.

But given his gift to Walt, Jr. and WW’s use of it shortly afterwards, he seemed to actually enjoy driving a little bit.

Mother, did it need to be so high.

by salvotion on Nov 2, 2011 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

My point is that he has things on his mind other than worrying about flashy cars

and he didn’t seem all that upset after he had to dispose of the gift after his joyride.

by PhilR8 on Nov 2, 2011 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm kind of tired of people making their own "I am the 99%/I am the 1%" signs.

They stopped being funny a while ago, only people keep making them. It’s played out but some people haven’t gotten the memo.

To paraphrase Seinfeld, it doesn’t offend me politically, it offends me as a comedian.

"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP

by Eat More Esskay on Nov 2, 2011 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

well excuse me sir

clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...

by Gamecock24 on Nov 2, 2011 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Haha. I didn't mean to direct this at you specifically.

More every clown on my Facebook news feed. Some time in the last two months everybody seems to have collectively decided it was either funny or insightful to share the same picture-that’s-really-just-full-of-text as one million other people and it’s starting to drive me nuts.

"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP

by Eat More Esskay on Nov 2, 2011 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

i got ya

i agree it’s getting a bit out of hand too, i just thought people would enjoy is cause of all the BB love that takes place around here

clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...

by Gamecock24 on Nov 2, 2011 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

you know what's REALLY funny?

sharing a picture of your cat or dog in a funny position, with a big sign on the pic like the cat or dog is saying something, only the words in that sign are misspelled, because it’s a cat or a dog who wrote the sign, see, and pets can’t spell correctly.

now that’s comedy gold.

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by zknower on Nov 2, 2011 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

lolcats are funny when employed judiciously.

Same with nearly anything else, really. It’s when people who think they have a sense of humor but don’t start beating jokes into the ground that they get ruined.

"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP

by Eat More Esskay on Nov 2, 2011 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

monkeys

monkeys are funny

we need more monkeys

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by Zeke McGeek on Nov 2, 2011 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Crocs

"And, I'm guessing our soldiers are happy about this, that they're leaving Iraq. It is no fun being in a country where there is crumbling infrastructure and an ignorant population. But they said they are happy to come home anyway."

by WestcoastO'sFan on Nov 2, 2011 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Smoking monkeys

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by NSOsFan on Nov 2, 2011 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's funny because

they’re addicted to something that’s bad for them! HAHA!

Tommy hunter still sucks!

by Steve. on Nov 2, 2011 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh shit son

new GTA trailer

"And, I'm guessing our soldiers are happy about this, that they're leaving Iraq. It is no fun being in a country where there is crumbling infrastructure and an ignorant population. But they said they are happy to come home anyway."

by WestcoastO'sFan on Nov 2, 2011 1:10 PM EDT reply actions  

I have indeed been to Des Moines...

And that’s why I want GTA there. It’d be completely different from any previous GTA games. We’ve now had two New York editions and two California editions. Lemme guess, the next one will be in Miami.

Of course, I also thought that 1920’s Chicago (with Des Moines as an extended zone!) would have been sweet. Or even better, Grand Theft Equine: Colonial Boston.

by Tezcatlipoca on Nov 2, 2011 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

THEY SHOULD HAVE TIME TRAVEL

where it’s like, you start out in modern San Francisco or whatever and then you can time travel and it’s like Grand Theft WildWest.

Tommy hunter still sucks!

by Steve. on Nov 2, 2011 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kinda like playing GTA:SA then Red Dead Redemption :P

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by NSOsFan on Nov 2, 2011 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

sounds alarmingly like desert bus

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by Andrew_G on Nov 2, 2011 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I laughed.

That was good.

"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP

by Eat More Esskay on Nov 2, 2011 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hope they go back to a little more over the top like Vice City

GTA IV had its moments for sure, but it seemed to take itself too seriously. Also, I wonder if they’ve run out of synonyms for “dick” after which they can name their companies.

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by NSOsFan on Nov 2, 2011 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Some people think the main character might be the same as the one in Vice City.

GTA: SA was def. my favorite, even though I hated some of that desert and hickville stuff.

"And, I'm guessing our soldiers are happy about this, that they're leaving Iraq. It is no fun being in a country where there is crumbling infrastructure and an ignorant population. But they said they are happy to come home anyway."

by WestcoastO'sFan on Nov 2, 2011 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Could be Claude from III as well

But who could tell since he never had a voice?

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by NSOsFan on Nov 2, 2011 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I never played 3

But 5 looks super dope.

"And, I'm guessing our soldiers are happy about this, that they're leaving Iraq. It is no fun being in a country where there is crumbling infrastructure and an ignorant population. But they said they are happy to come home anyway."

by WestcoastO'sFan on Nov 2, 2011 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah I'll probably end up getting it

I’m moving sometime this month so I have to hold off on getting UC3 (dammit), and I still want EA to HD-ify the SSX series..

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by NSOsFan on Nov 2, 2011 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can't stand SSX

Mostly b/c I sucked at it on gamecube.

"And, I'm guessing our soldiers are happy about this, that they're leaving Iraq. It is no fun being in a country where there is crumbling infrastructure and an ignorant population. But they said they are happy to come home anyway."

by WestcoastO'sFan on Nov 2, 2011 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

I loved it on PS2

The first two anyway. I heard On Tour sucked so I didn’t get it. I can only imagine what it would look like on a big screen.

"Human beings make life so interesting. Do you know, that in a universe so full of wonders, they have managed to invent boredom?" ~ Death

by NSOsFan on Nov 2, 2011 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

i really hate that every snowboarding game feels the need to go over the top with the tricks and "style"

there was a pretty awesome game for xbox360 that no one cared about that IMO really nailed the essence of snowboarding… it’s called Stoked and you can probably grab a copy for like $10

by brek on Nov 2, 2011 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

One of the reasons I liked it so much was that it was unrealistic and over the top

and it knew it was too. It’s definitely an arcade game, not a simulation.

"Human beings make life so interesting. Do you know, that in a universe so full of wonders, they have managed to invent boredom?" ~ Death

by NSOsFan on Nov 2, 2011 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

You know...

there is a new SSX coming out, right?

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by daveh873 on Nov 2, 2011 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah I do

I just want the first two HDed, because I loved playing them years ago. It’s like when God of War III came out, they updated GOW 1 and 2.

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by NSOsFan on Nov 2, 2011 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yea I loved SSX

because all the snowboarding games that tried to be real sucked. It’s like NFL Blitz. It was just so much fun. Tricky is one of the best games ever.

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by daveh873 on Nov 2, 2011 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

The other day, I brought up the possibility that DC United relocates to Baltimore

Here’s a very current article on the subject:

Major League Soccer gauges Baltimore’s interest in pro franchise

The article links to an MLS survey that is attempting to gauge potential support for a Baltimore MLS team.

by PhilR8 on Nov 2, 2011 1:10 PM EDT reply actions  

heard about this when they announced the plans for the Westport development

i would fully support this since it would be a short cab ride from my house

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by Gamecock24 on Nov 2, 2011 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

MLS soccer = awesome

But I’m something of a soccer novice, so i have some credibility problems!

If you look at those UZR ratings or whatever

by dfa on Nov 2, 2011 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm branching out to all sorts of new sporting events

I went to the Towson football game last Saturday night, enduring 35-degree-weather and constant flurries, and had an awesome time. I went to the Grand Prix in September and had a blast. I’ll support any local team, MLS included. Just don’t ask me to root for any DC teams.

by PhilR8 on Nov 2, 2011 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Decided to branch out myself

Tried small town version of pro basketball, which was okay. I’m also a ref in a roller derby league, so that’s been pretty fun so far. You remember the smell of stale sweat on wrist guards for a loooooong time though.

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by NSOsFan on Nov 2, 2011 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

eh...

it’s okay for live soccer, but i always choose english or spanish to watch over mls. always.

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by j.q. higgins on Nov 2, 2011 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

i really think...

english ball is the best intro. very physical, fast and attack-oriented and just overall better looking than mls.

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-chris cooley

by j.q. higgins on Nov 2, 2011 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I really, really want to be a soccer fan.

I love the World Cup and since my wife is from a soccer-obsessed culture, it kinda fits. My problems with becoming a fan are:
1) I can’t stand corporate logs on the uniforms. Even that I could tolerate if the logos were at least smaller than the team logo.
2) The games are very inconsistent. I know the NFL is on Sunday. I know that, baring a few exceptions, college football is on Saturdays. I know that MLB is pretty much 7 days a week. Half the time I say, “Hey, I’m gonna watch the next DC soccer game,” I end up missing it because I couldn’t remember what day it would be.

by Tezcatlipoca on Nov 2, 2011 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have absolutely no problem with the logos

If the Orioles could afford to sign even one more good player at the cost of a logo on the uniform, I’d be all for it. And i’m not quite sure about your second point. I took a look at the Philadelphia Union’s schedule this season, and there were 23 Saturday games, 4 Wednesday games, 3 Friday games, 2 Thursday games, and 2 Sunday games. I’d say thats fairly consistent.

by kba26 on Nov 2, 2011 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is a really silly question
The MLS survey asked respondents if they would prefer to see the D.C. United, Columbus Crew, FC Dallas, New York Red Bulls or Philadelphia Union franchise move to Baltimore.

This is all about moving DC United. Relocating any of those other teams doesn’t make any sense, especially not Philadelphia or New York.

by kba26 on Nov 2, 2011 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

why does moving dc united make sense?

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-chris cooley

by j.q. higgins on Nov 2, 2011 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Spite for the Nationals moving in.

"And, I'm guessing our soldiers are happy about this, that they're leaving Iraq. It is no fun being in a country where there is crumbling infrastructure and an ignorant population. But they said they are happy to come home anyway."

by WestcoastO'sFan on Nov 2, 2011 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

They can't get a new stadium built

and RFK could collapse any minute now

by kba26 on Nov 2, 2011 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

do you think they could get that kind of audience in the baltimore area?

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by j.q. higgins on Nov 2, 2011 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

filling.

"If it sounded like I was delighted by Tony Romo’s failure last week, I was."
-chris cooley

by j.q. higgins on Nov 2, 2011 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't think so

The only MLS teams that really have attendance issues are the ones with poorly located stadiums (Dallas), or really terrible ones (Columbus, San Jose, New England). DC United will probably lose a decent amount of its fanbase if it moves, but it will bring a lot of people with it as well. New fans from Baltimore should more than make up the difference.

by kba26 on Nov 2, 2011 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

well, boo.

"If it sounded like I was delighted by Tony Romo’s failure last week, I was."
-chris cooley

by j.q. higgins on Nov 2, 2011 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

They also aren't going to move another team to Baltimore

and have franchises in DC, Baltimore, Philadelphia, and 2 teams in New York.

by kba26 on Nov 2, 2011 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

still shitty.

"If it sounded like I was delighted by Tony Romo’s failure last week, I was."
-chris cooley

by j.q. higgins on Nov 2, 2011 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

DC United feels the same way

But DC officials just haven’t shown any willingness at all to work with them on a solution. If enough people started complaining maybe it would do something. Otherwise, get used to hearing Baltimore United.

by kba26 on Nov 2, 2011 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't feel good about taking the storied United name and history from DC.

Maybe we could vote on a new name.

"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP

by Eat More Esskay on Nov 2, 2011 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

the blast part ii!

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by j.q. higgins on Nov 2, 2011 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I suppose its possible they could do that

but theres a lot of value in that name that i suspect the owners would be reluctant to just give up

by kba26 on Nov 2, 2011 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was being sarcastic.

I am fairly sure the MLS doesn’t have a storied history of anything.

That said, if there was a pro soccer team in Baltimore, I’m sure I would check it out.

"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP

by Eat More Esskay on Nov 2, 2011 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

if there is a storied franchise in mls...

it is dc united.

"If it sounded like I was delighted by Tony Romo’s failure last week, I was."
-chris cooley

by j.q. higgins on Nov 2, 2011 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

as long as they don't try and build some huge ass stadium, which i don't think they'd even have the room to do

if they stuck with something that seats around 20K (similar to the stadium Portland is building now) they shouldn’t have any issues with filling the place on a consistent basis.

also, and it sucks that this is a possibility, but don’t you think that some people who have become disenfranchised with the O’s may look for a new team/sport to support once the spring rolls around?

clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...

by Gamecock24 on Nov 2, 2011 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

the portland stadium is built

it’s gorgeous, and intimate, and the local hipsters have fully embraced the team.

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by zknower on Nov 2, 2011 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's not gorgeous at all.

It’s ugly as hell.

"And, I'm guessing our soldiers are happy about this, that they're leaving Iraq. It is no fun being in a country where there is crumbling infrastructure and an ignorant population. But they said they are happy to come home anyway."

by WestcoastO'sFan on Nov 2, 2011 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nice-looking stadiums are so mainstream.

"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP

by Eat More Esskay on Nov 2, 2011 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'm in workshop hell.

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Nov 2, 2011 1:27 PM EDT reply actions  

take a ten minute break

watch this

and then find the energy power through the rest of your shitty day

by PhilR8 on Nov 2, 2011 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

luckily i'm done in 30 minutes

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Nov 2, 2011 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

now the attendees are beating up on the speaker.

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Nov 2, 2011 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

That sounds like fun.

Mother, did it need to be so high.

by salvotion on Nov 2, 2011 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

feel bad for the speaker

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Nov 2, 2011 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

That was so much fun. I really needed that.

Maybe I should bookmark this one…

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by J(O's)elskIL on Nov 2, 2011 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Happy Birthday Sidney Ponson!

I wonder if he has any money left!

If you look at those UZR ratings or whatever

by dfa on Nov 2, 2011 1:48 PM EDT reply actions  

No need for money.

He has joined forces with Chuck Norris and will survive on his fists alone.

Mother, did it need to be so high.

by salvotion on Nov 2, 2011 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

So after watching the last ep. of TWD and reading what you guys said about it.

I agree, this whole thing with the girl has got to end. Also, I don’t see them pulling it off without it being a poor ending to that arch. They spent so much time on it, there are very few good ways to end it.

"And, I'm guessing our soldiers are happy about this, that they're leaving Iraq. It is no fun being in a country where there is crumbling infrastructure and an ignorant population. But they said they are happy to come home anyway."

by WestcoastO'sFan on Nov 2, 2011 2:00 PM EDT reply actions  

Wooo! Lions! Undefeated!

Mother, did it need to be so high.

by salvotion on Nov 2, 2011 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Speaking of football

respect to Gamecock for being the only other person to pick KC other than myself.

"And, I'm guessing our soldiers are happy about this, that they're leaving Iraq. It is no fun being in a country where there is crumbling infrastructure and an ignorant population. But they said they are happy to come home anyway."

by WestcoastO'sFan on Nov 2, 2011 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah buddy

getting to that time in the year where you gotta start taking some chances

clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...

by Gamecock24 on Nov 2, 2011 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Obviously, they should've found a Jewish QB for that game.

Preferably named Daniel.

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by Vuff on Nov 2, 2011 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

BIG NEWS
danconnollysun Dan Connolly
#Orioles claim RHP Darren O’Day from Rangers and add Roberts, Scott and Arrieta from 60-day DL. Now have 38 on 40-man roster

"And, I'm guessing our soldiers are happy about this, that they're leaving Iraq. It is no fun being in a country where there is crumbling infrastructure and an ignorant population. But they said they are happy to come home anyway."

by WestcoastO'sFan on Nov 2, 2011 2:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Great. Another reliever off waivers...

OR… Maybe our new GM!!! Yeah!

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by J(O's)elskIL on Nov 2, 2011 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

1.01 WHIP in 58.2 IP in 2009

0.89 WHIP in 62 IP in 2010

He could be the least crappy side-armer we’ve ever had.

"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP

by Eat More Esskay on Nov 2, 2011 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't mind.

It’s an upgrade at least. We actually might have a decent pen next year.

"And, I'm guessing our soldiers are happy about this, that they're leaving Iraq. It is no fun being in a country where there is crumbling infrastructure and an ignorant population. But they said they are happy to come home anyway."

by WestcoastO'sFan on Nov 2, 2011 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, I know he's pretty good.

It’s just that we have plenty of young in-house options that are worth an extended look. It’s just a waste of time in my eyes.

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by J(O's)elskIL on Nov 2, 2011 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Most of the young in-house options that got an extended look in 2011 didn't look very good.

"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP

by Eat More Esskay on Nov 2, 2011 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

STROP!

"And, I'm guessing our soldiers are happy about this, that they're leaving Iraq. It is no fun being in a country where there is crumbling infrastructure and an ignorant population. But they said they are happy to come home anyway."

by WestcoastO'sFan on Nov 2, 2011 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

patton?

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-chris cooley

by j.q. higgins on Nov 2, 2011 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

who?

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by Gamecock24 on Nov 2, 2011 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mike Jones

"And, I'm guessing our soldiers are happy about this, that they're leaving Iraq. It is no fun being in a country where there is crumbling infrastructure and an ignorant population. But they said they are happy to come home anyway."

by WestcoastO'sFan on Nov 2, 2011 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mike Jones, who? Mike jones

"And, I'm guessing our soldiers are happy about this, that they're leaving Iraq. It is no fun being in a country where there is crumbling infrastructure and an ignorant population. But they said they are happy to come home anyway."

by WestcoastO'sFan on Nov 2, 2011 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Of our young guys in the bullpen, only Patton and Tillman got more than 20 IP last year.

Both came out with positive fWAR, even Tillman (with below average peripherals). It doesn’t seem like we gave anyone else an extended look in the pen.

Mother, did it need to be so high.

by salvotion on Nov 2, 2011 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tillman didn't have any relief appearances.

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by O'sFan21 on Nov 2, 2011 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thinking of Bergy maybe?

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by NSOsFan on Nov 2, 2011 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Phillips?

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by J(O's)elskIL on Nov 2, 2011 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

I certainly liked what I saw of him.

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by O'sFan21 on Nov 2, 2011 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

And Rapada was good as a LOOGY

"And, I'm guessing our soldiers are happy about this, that they're leaving Iraq. It is no fun being in a country where there is crumbling infrastructure and an ignorant population. But they said they are happy to come home anyway."

by WestcoastO'sFan on Nov 2, 2011 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

FTFY

And Rapada was good incredible as a LOOGY

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by J(O's)elskIL on Nov 2, 2011 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not young though

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by J(O's)elskIL on Nov 2, 2011 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Right?

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by J(O's)elskIL on Nov 2, 2011 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Chadford gives this comment a thumbs down

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by Andrew_G on Nov 2, 2011 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

On the other hand, he's going into his second year of arbitration.

So this isn’t exactly a bargain basement pickup, but at least it’s not a multi-year contract.

"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP

by Eat More Esskay on Nov 2, 2011 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Doesn't cost us a draft pick!

Baby steps, people!

"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King

by duck on Nov 2, 2011 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

2 career saves?

It’s like they don’t even value closing experience anymore!

"Tiger got to hunt, bird got to fly; Man got to sit and wonder 'why, why, why?' Tiger got to sleep, bird got to land; Man got to tell himself he understand.."

by tflach2 on Nov 2, 2011 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't mind this O'Day pick up.

He had HR problems in a short stint in Texas this year but otherwise has decent to good career numbers.

Mother, did it need to be so high.

by salvotion on Nov 2, 2011 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

probably...

higher career WAR than pretty much every pitcher on staff than guts.

"If it sounded like I was delighted by Tony Romo’s failure last week, I was."
-chris cooley

by j.q. higgins on Nov 2, 2011 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

This has a hell of a lot more potential upside than claiming Jo-Jo Reyes on waivers, that's for sure.

"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP

by Eat More Esskay on Nov 2, 2011 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kent Tekulve would say no....

"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King

by duck on Nov 2, 2011 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kent Tekulve's glasses say he was constantly high.

Dan Quisenberry’s on this list too, though.

"Human beings make life so interesting. Do you know, that in a universe so full of wonders, they have managed to invent boredom?" ~ Death

by NSOsFan on Nov 2, 2011 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I approve

Soon the Orioles bullpen will just be the Texas Rangers

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by Andrew_G on Nov 2, 2011 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I still can't see that happening

I'll develop my own image. I'm an original man. A one and only. I just need some help.

by Andrew_G on Nov 2, 2011 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Today is senior skip day

I slept in until noon, have a shit ton of work to do but haven’t started it, and I’m getting your package off in a bit, kba. It’s been a very productive day.

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by DCO'sfan on Nov 2, 2011 2:24 PM EDT reply actions  

prolly shouldn't say this:

“getting your package off”

"And, I'm guessing our soldiers are happy about this, that they're leaving Iraq. It is no fun being in a country where there is crumbling infrastructure and an ignorant population. But they said they are happy to come home anyway."

by WestcoastO'sFan on Nov 2, 2011 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

You're right.

The proper syntax should be “getting off your package.”

Oh, wait…

Mother, did it need to be so high.

by salvotion on Nov 2, 2011 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Thank god.
masnRoch Roch Kubatko
by masnORIOLES
As expected, #orioles C/INF Jake Fox refused outright assignment and became a free agent. We’ll remember him for the 10 spring training HRs

"And, I'm guessing our soldiers are happy about this, that they're leaving Iraq. It is no fun being in a country where there is crumbling infrastructure and an ignorant population. But they said they are happy to come home anyway."

by WestcoastO'sFan on Nov 2, 2011 2:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Speak for yourself Roch

I’ll prefer not to remember him at all.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Nov 2, 2011 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Patton that man!

"Human beings make life so interesting. Do you know, that in a universe so full of wonders, they have managed to invent boredom?" ~ Death

by NSOsFan on Nov 2, 2011 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

But where does that leave us for a back-up catcher?

Even SHJ needs a day off once in a while.

"Work fast. Throw strikes. Change speeds." Ray Miller

by Zeke McGeek on Nov 2, 2011 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

there's at least one terrified man ready and willing

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by Andrew_G on Nov 2, 2011 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Matt Wieters does not need a backup.

In fact, he finds the MLB season too lackadaisical and will begin catching Nationals’ games on Orioles’ off-days.

by Tezcatlipoca on Nov 2, 2011 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol @ Conan and Hugh Jackman singing in chinese last night

"And, I'm guessing our soldiers are happy about this, that they're leaving Iraq. It is no fun being in a country where there is crumbling infrastructure and an ignorant population. But they said they are happy to come home anyway."

by WestcoastO'sFan on Nov 2, 2011 2:58 PM EDT reply actions  

That is a Major Rec

"Work fast. Throw strikes. Change speeds." Ray Miller

by Zeke McGeek on Nov 2, 2011 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nepotism at the North Pole

Shameless Elf-Promotion.

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by NSOsFan on Nov 2, 2011 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Also rec'ed

Congrats man!

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by NSOsFan on Nov 2, 2011 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bravo!

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by J(O's)elskIL on Nov 2, 2011 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Like it says on the cover, "Introduction by Andrew Gibson"?

That’s pretty awesome no matter what.

"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP

by Eat More Esskay on Nov 2, 2011 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

hahaha no

but if you open to the third page or whatever, you’ll see the intro with “Andrew Gibson” at the bottom. People tell me it’s good. I know you all will like it because it mentions celebrated Oriole Vlad Guerrero.

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by Andrew_G on Nov 2, 2011 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

cool, yo!

Tommy hunter still sucks!

by Steve. on Nov 2, 2011 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

As well

Amazon

"Human beings make life so interesting. Do you know, that in a universe so full of wonders, they have managed to invent boredom?" ~ Death

by NSOsFan on Nov 2, 2011 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dang it.

No Kindle.

"Work fast. Throw strikes. Change speeds." Ray Miller

by Zeke McGeek on Nov 2, 2011 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know for a fact its available electronically

because they made a big deal about that last year. Let me ask someone about that.

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by Andrew_G on Nov 2, 2011 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

No matches in the Kindle Store for it yet.

"Human beings make life so interesting. Do you know, that in a universe so full of wonders, they have managed to invent boredom?" ~ Death

by NSOsFan on Nov 2, 2011 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

So

basically it’s in development, to be released…sometime. Last year it came out but apparently only on iOS (presumably zk loaded up on copies) but this year it should be available on more platforms.

Sorry, that’s kind of a shitty answer, but it’s what I’ve got.

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by Andrew_G on Nov 2, 2011 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

is it on the nook?

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by DCO'sfan on Nov 2, 2011 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

right now, no

I'll develop my own image. I'm an original man. A one and only. I just need some help.

by Andrew_G on Nov 2, 2011 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Start typing in out in word and just send me the file

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Nov 2, 2011 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

wow, awesome...

way to go, youngblood.

"If it sounded like I was delighted by Tony Romo’s failure last week, I was."
-chris cooley

by j.q. higgins on Nov 2, 2011 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know a famous person!

That’s exciting. Congrats :)

(Note: I do sort of know a famous person… my dad’s best friend is the Unabomber’s brother, and that makes him a family friend. So I know two!)

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by DCO'sfan on Nov 2, 2011 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know a famous person, for certain definitions of famous

I’m friends with the fantasy author Mercedes Lackey.

I went to high school with Michael Sweetney.

by Holymittens on Nov 2, 2011 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've drunk beer with Stacey

Winner of The Mobbies’ Best Orioles Blog two years in a row, and Best Overall Blog last year.

In fact, she’s bought me beer. And on occasions, vodka-laced drinks.

BEAT THAT!

"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King

by duck on Nov 2, 2011 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Like you're the only person on here for whom Stacey has bought beer.

You’ve got me on the vodka-laced drinks, though.

"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP

by Eat More Esskay on Nov 2, 2011 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

She is a generous soul....

and more to the point, I don’t know anyone famous aside from Stacey.

"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King

by duck on Nov 2, 2011 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

screw you, then

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Nov 2, 2011 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

You know, if you'd been on Heroes for SEVEN seconds instead of four...

Fuck, I forgot about the Grey’s Anatomy gig.

Yup, you’re officially more famous.

"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King

by duck on Nov 2, 2011 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nah

I’ve been on TV more, but you’re more famous. Thousands of Baltimore sports fans know your name and tens of thousands hear you on the radio.

I’m just one of a multitude of guys who occasionally shows up on your boob tube.

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Nov 2, 2011 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

no problem

fame kills, ya know.

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Nov 2, 2011 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've never seen you on that site

which is odd, as I must have watched it for hundreds of hours in 8 minute increments.

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by daveh873 on Nov 2, 2011 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

which site is that?

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Nov 3, 2011 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Boob tube

Nevermind…

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by daveh873 on Nov 4, 2011 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

jesus, i'm slow sometimes.

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Nov 4, 2011 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've actually been interviewed by ESPN Radio before

And have had a website I ran mentioned in a few Jerry Crasnick articles on ESPN.

Oh, and the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette ran an article on that same website.

by Holymittens on Nov 2, 2011 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Daryle Ward Sucks

It was, theoretically, about the fat former 1st Baseman for the Dodgers and Pirates and how much he was terrible. A friend of mine who was a big Dodgers fan started it basically to bitch about how Ward always grounded out to 1st base every time he was at bat. He knew I was funny, so he had me write some things.

Eventually, it just became my platform to write increasingly bizarre articles, such as how Daryle Ward was actually a cicada in disguise, how Peter Gammons was actually a picture of Andrew Jackson from the $20, and other random insane stuff.

When Ward joined the Pirates, Jerry Crasnick wrote an article saying Ward might be one of the “sleepers” for the coming season. My friend wrote a post saying that Crasnick must, therefore, be crazy. A couple of months later, when Ward was continuing to play terribly, Crasnick must have Googled his own name, found our site, and wrote us an e-mail essentially saying “I wish I’d read this before I posted that article!”

We, of course, laughed our asses off and couldn’t believe he had discovered the site. And then he referenced us in a column a few months later, when Ward started to actually play decently (albeit calling us Daryle Ward Stinks). This led to us actually getting traffic to our stupid, joke website that we updated like once a month. Then the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette wrote us asking for some quotes about Ward, and then a local sports talk show guy on ESPN Radio in Pittsburgh (who used to be a WCW announcer) asked us for an interview on the radio, which I agreed to do.

Then we both got tired of doing it and let it die off. Every day I pray that wasn’t my 15 minutes of fame. Because I want to be an author, dammit, and if that was the peak of my success, I will be a sad, sad person.

by Holymittens on Nov 2, 2011 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Daryle Ward!

He’s the only guy who has ever hit a ball into the river in Pittsburgh! That’s before he was Pirate, though.

by Stacey on Nov 2, 2011 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes

Which is, as far as I can tell, the only reason the Pirates signed him.

by Holymittens on Nov 2, 2011 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

faaaaaaaaaaame (fame)

makes a man
think things over

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Nov 2, 2011 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

awesome

congrats

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Nov 2, 2011 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

NICE!

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Nov 2, 2011 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yay!

I told my bf a few weeks ago that you wrote the intro and he said, “I pre-ordered it. It’s like he’s famous.”

Also I originally had both of those sentences end in exclamation points, but that’s the way I would have said it. He never speaks in exclamation points.

by Stacey on Nov 2, 2011 5:26 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

congrats man

If you look at those UZR ratings or whatever

by dfa on Nov 2, 2011 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

so awesome - congrats man

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by O'sFan21 on Nov 2, 2011 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks everybody!

warms my heart from all this terrible, terrible Orioles-related news.

I'll develop my own image. I'm an original man. A one and only. I just need some help.

by Andrew_G on Nov 2, 2011 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I want to say something like,

“Our little Andrew is all grown up!”, but I should probably leave that to your mom. Congrats, man.

"Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs." -- Earl Weaver

by Vuff on Nov 2, 2011 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's awesome.

Is that what Bill James read over for you?

by ahoque24 on Nov 2, 2011 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes it is!

And you’ll happily note that the times mentioned in it are all “eastern” so as not to confuse the time zonally challenged amongst us.

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by Andrew_G on Nov 2, 2011 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

i wonder where it's from?

"If it sounded like I was delighted by Tony Romo’s failure last week, I was."
-chris cooley

by j.q. higgins on Nov 2, 2011 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

That is one of the oddest little towns in MD.

I always have weird experiences when I stop through there.

Anyone else?

Will work for Recs.

by Wieters Wieners on Nov 2, 2011 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I avoid it at all costs, personally

"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King

by duck on Nov 2, 2011 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

You know I always pronounced it "Harve" like Favre

but the guy on TV kept saying “hav-ra” so I looked it up. Learn something new all the time.

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by daveh873 on Nov 2, 2011 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not liking the new gmail layout at all.

It’s blinding.

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by DCO'sfan on Nov 2, 2011 4:01 PM EDT reply actions  

The popup kept bothering me so I decided to try it

It’s honestly giving me a headache.

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by DCO'sfan on Nov 2, 2011 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's bad karma

from skipping school today

"Work fast. Throw strikes. Change speeds." Ray Miller

by Zeke McGeek on Nov 2, 2011 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's kinda funny how the school knows about it (kinda defeats the point, but whatever)

And notified all the teachers so they wouldn’t schedule tests or have big assignments due, yet two of my teachers still did just that.

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by DCO'sfan on Nov 2, 2011 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good for them - the two teachers, I mean

"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King

by duck on Nov 2, 2011 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Change the color on it.

Mother, did it need to be so high.

by salvotion on Nov 2, 2011 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

I tried that

No other color seems to work. It’s bugging me.

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by DCO'sfan on Nov 2, 2011 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not a fan of it either.

Too big and blocky

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by J(O's)elskIL on Nov 2, 2011 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'm mostly meh to it.

gmail needs more damn themes. they’ve had the same themes for what seems like FOREVER.

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Nov 2, 2011 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

SimplyAJ10 10
wasn’t robbed. Didn’t deserve it RT. "@mbittel: @SimplyAJ10 Must be the Gold Glove you were robbed of calling from Baltimore!!!!"

"And, I'm guessing our soldiers are happy about this, that they're leaving Iraq. It is no fun being in a country where there is crumbling infrastructure and an ignorant population. But they said they are happy to come home anyway."

by WestcoastO'sFan on Nov 2, 2011 4:33 PM EDT reply actions  

let noone say AJ doesn't have a good head on his shoulders

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by Andrew_G on Nov 2, 2011 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think my favorite example of this is

his disbelief at the whole shebang surrounding the draft nowadays. When he was drafted, he was sitting in civics class or something, according to him.

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by J(O's)elskIL on Nov 2, 2011 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

roasted, olive oil, kosher salt...

hot damn.

"If it sounded like I was delighted by Tony Romo’s failure last week, I was."
-chris cooley

by j.q. higgins on Nov 2, 2011 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

FTFY

I like them pretty much anything sauteed in butter with garlic and bacon. Lemon juice to taste.

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Nov 2, 2011 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is very, very true.

Mother, did it need to be so high.

by salvotion on Nov 2, 2011 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

All salt is kosher.

It’s a mineral

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by J(O's)elskIL on Nov 2, 2011 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

but "kosher salt" is a thing

who knows how accurate it is.

Tommy hunter still sucks!

by Steve. on Nov 2, 2011 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just Googled it.

I know what you’re talking about now. It’s used to kasher meat, or to make it kosher (soaks up the blood).

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by J(O's)elskIL on Nov 2, 2011 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's called kosher salt because it's the kinda salt that they use to get the blood out of meat.

All salt is kosher, but kosher salt is flakes rather than grains

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by DCO'sfan on Nov 2, 2011 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, this. It refers to the size of the grain
After a kosher animal is properly slaughtered, all blood must be removed. This is normally accomplished by salting the meat, as salt draws out blood. Table salt is too thin and will dissolve into the meat without drawing out the blood, and salt that is too coarse will roll off. The salt that is “just right” for koshering meat is called “kosher salt.” Some people prefer to use it in certain recipes because of its consistency.

Its really helpful for cooking because you can pick it up and distribute it better than you can table salt.

by kba26 on Nov 2, 2011 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

and because it's not as "salty"

a pinch of kosher salt is probably 1/4 to 1/3 as salty as a pinch of table salt due to the size of the grains.

so it’s easier to avoid oversalting

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Nov 2, 2011 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

I used to use it for baking before I read about it

Damn, I was so stupid. It’s horrible for baking.

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by DCO'sfan on Nov 2, 2011 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've never had any problem with it

It depends on the kosher salt you use. Morton’s for example is a much larger grain the Diamond Crystal.

by kba26 on Nov 2, 2011 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I used Morton's

The problem was that before I started experimenting I was always working off recipes, and didn’t understand that kosher salt is not as salty, so you have to use more kosher salt, and it’s not always easy to convert. It’s fine for cookies and such, but when you get into cakes, brownies etc. it’s better to use table salt, especially when you’re using a recipe.

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by DCO'sfan on Nov 2, 2011 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'm like you

i converted about two years ago

but i only like them roasted. steamed, they’re gross.

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Nov 2, 2011 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

they do a salad at whole foods...

w. brussel sprouts, garlic and parmesan.

"If it sounded like I was delighted by Tony Romo’s failure last week, I was."
-chris cooley

by j.q. higgins on Nov 2, 2011 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

brussel sprouts are growing on me

Now spinach… that’s something I used to really hate. I love it now.

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by DCO'sfan on Nov 2, 2011 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

The only thing I don't like about spinach

is that weird feeling I get on my teeth when I eat it fresh. It’s like they put on little tooth sweaters.

Mother, did it need to be so high.

by salvotion on Nov 2, 2011 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thats true for most vegetables that have gotten bad reputations

I think even lightly steamed they could be ok. But too many people got into the habit of overcooking a lot of vegetables to the point they just turn to grey mush.

by kba26 on Nov 2, 2011 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rosenthal confirms widening of GM search.

"And, I'm guessing our soldiers are happy about this, that they're leaving Iraq. It is no fun being in a country where there is crumbling infrastructure and an ignorant population. But they said they are happy to come home anyway."

by WestcoastO'sFan on Nov 2, 2011 4:41 PM EDT reply actions  

third time's the charm

I'll develop my own image. I'm an original man. A one and only. I just need some help.

by Andrew_G on Nov 2, 2011 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

James made a pretty good point last night that I overlooked initially

The Orioles first wanted MacPhail to stick around, and after a few days of courting him, he said no. Then they wanted LaCava, and after a few days of courting him, he said no. So that’s strike two.

I'll develop my own image. I'm an original man. A one and only. I just need some help.

by Andrew_G on Nov 2, 2011 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm just gonna discount MacPhail's strike,

since I’m glad he’s gone.

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by J(O's)elskIL on Nov 2, 2011 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

but i think the issue is...

it was a pointless exercise that cost us precious time.

"If it sounded like I was delighted by Tony Romo’s failure last week, I was."
-chris cooley

by j.q. higgins on Nov 2, 2011 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

That doesn't trouble me too much.

I don’t like it, but it’s not like we’re missing a crucial FA signing by not having a GM in place.

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by J(O's)elskIL on Nov 2, 2011 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

that is almost totally immaterial.

"If it sounded like I was delighted by Tony Romo’s failure last week, I was."
-chris cooley

by j.q. higgins on Nov 2, 2011 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dave Stockstill?

If you look at those UZR ratings or whatever

by dfa on Nov 2, 2011 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

New Yorker Cartoon

heh.

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Nov 2, 2011 4:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Hey! He wants my job!

Mother, did it need to be so high.

by salvotion on Nov 2, 2011 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm going to make Jewish apple cake soon.

A family friend gave me this recipe. Her mother invented it (not the cake, of course, but this particular recipe), and she graciously gave it to me! I’m really excited about this.

Contrary to popular belief, I am not Jewish.

by DCO'sfan on Nov 2, 2011 5:05 PM EDT reply actions  

It's just like regular apple cake

but the baker gets really disappointed if it gets eaten by anyone but a doctor.

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by daveh873 on Nov 2, 2011 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Some MLBTR stuff
Kubatko adds that the Orioles have contacted the Rays, White Sox, Twins and Phillies for permission to interview GM candidates from the teams’ front offices.
Roch Kubatko of MASNsports.com, who reported this morning that the Orioles are expanding their search, notes that manager Buck Showalter and director of baseball operations Matt Klentak are handling the front office responsibilities for now.

"And, I'm guessing our soldiers are happy about this, that they're leaving Iraq. It is no fun being in a country where there is crumbling infrastructure and an ignorant population. But they said they are happy to come home anyway."

by WestcoastO'sFan on Nov 2, 2011 5:06 PM EDT reply actions  

phillies...

“ruben, buddy! we here you have this jordan guy up there…”

"If it sounded like I was delighted by Tony Romo’s failure last week, I was."
-chris cooley

by j.q. higgins on Nov 2, 2011 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Who on the Phillies would we want?

Hopefully, no one involved in the Howard or Ibanez deals.

Mother, did it need to be so high.

by salvotion on Nov 2, 2011 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

My phillies' fan friend's response

“no one”

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Nov 2, 2011 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nationals looking to extend wang.

hehe

"And, I'm guessing our soldiers are happy about this, that they're leaving Iraq. It is no fun being in a country where there is crumbling infrastructure and an ignorant population. But they said they are happy to come home anyway."

by WestcoastO'sFan on Nov 2, 2011 5:20 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Aren't we all

Contrary to DCO'sfan, I am Jewish.

by J(O's)elskIL on Nov 2, 2011 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dude, I get soooooo many free pills through my Gmail spam.

You really gotta check your spam, lots of good deals get put into there for some reason.

"And, I'm guessing our soldiers are happy about this, that they're leaving Iraq. It is no fun being in a country where there is crumbling infrastructure and an ignorant population. But they said they are happy to come home anyway."

by WestcoastO'sFan on Nov 2, 2011 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

I got them after I got an important email from the FBI

and after I got a great full time job offer for students!

"And, I'm guessing our soldiers are happy about this, that they're leaving Iraq. It is no fun being in a country where there is crumbling infrastructure and an ignorant population. But they said they are happy to come home anyway."

by WestcoastO'sFan on Nov 2, 2011 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

BTW, if you're up for a Diplomacy game, there's one with one slot left on

playdiplomacy.com. Tell me if you want in and I’ll send you the details

Contrary to DCO'sfan, I am Jewish.

by J(O's)elskIL on Nov 2, 2011 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

nah, I got burned out by playing 2 games with no finish.

Maybe later in the offseason.

"And, I'm guessing our soldiers are happy about this, that they're leaving Iraq. It is no fun being in a country where there is crumbling infrastructure and an ignorant population. But they said they are happy to come home anyway."

by WestcoastO'sFan on Nov 2, 2011 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

hey.. since alternative sports were brought up here today...

Kelly Slater is probably going to clinch his 11th world title momentarily:

http://www.live.ripcurl.com/index.php?Search2011LiveControl

Pretty impressive feat in any sport.

by brek on Nov 2, 2011 5:30 PM EDT reply actions  

I thought it was Jesse who was supposed to end up with Slater forever.

"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP

by Eat More Esskay on Nov 2, 2011 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ugh

As if it wasn’t enough that he’s going to be sporting a World Series ring next year, here’s the email I get from my buddy today:

what do you think of this humiliating gm search for the orioles.
Olney says dipoto withdrew himself too. So two guys have turned them
down.

Time to give up as a fan, no?

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Nov 2, 2011 6:05 PM EDT reply actions  

"Time to give up as a fan"

Bullshit, you guys can wimp out if you want, but why the fuck would you bail out now? What’s the over/under on fanposts with people exclaiming their recantation of Oriole fandom?

"And, I'm guessing our soldiers are happy about this, that they're leaving Iraq. It is no fun being in a country where there is crumbling infrastructure and an ignorant population. But they said they are happy to come home anyway."

by WestcoastO'sFan on Nov 2, 2011 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

That was my response

Anybody who’s stuck with it through the past 14 years of humiliation isn’t going to be too bothered by this.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Nov 2, 2011 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

At some point, you reach a breaking point

John Stockstill as GM might be it for me.

"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King

by duck on Nov 2, 2011 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Eh

I’ll shrug and move on.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Nov 2, 2011 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

steve melewski for assistant GM!

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Nov 2, 2011 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

But in the handbook it clearly states:

III. b) 4. If at any stage a Stockstill be named GM, hope must be preserved. Maybe he’ll be so bad even PA will realize it was a mistake, banish them from the organization and it will have been a net gain,.

Contrary to DCO'sfan, I am Jewish.

by J(O's)elskIL on Nov 2, 2011 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Eh

Do we really know for a fact that he’s any less competent than anybody else? I mean I’m certainly convinced that he’s an idiot, but that’s just because he’s been a part of this absolute clusterfuck for the last 6+ years, but for all I know he’s been pushing smart investments the whole time and his bosses haven’t been listening.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Nov 2, 2011 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

He made such an impact on his last assignment with teh O's

Angelos switched him with his brother into a different job, and no one noticed as neither department had a significant difference in performance..

What does THAT tell you?

"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King

by duck on Nov 2, 2011 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Again though

How do we know what he wanted to do vs. what he was permitted to do?

And I’ll reiterate that I’m not saying I believe that’s the case – I’m just throwing it out there that we don’t really know what the deal is.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Nov 2, 2011 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

he's been in charge of player development and international scouting for O's.

look at the current team and ask yourself if you want stockstill. if you say yes, ask again.

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Nov 2, 2011 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hence my point about making suggestions that were ignored.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Nov 2, 2011 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

depends if andy actually gave him authority to do his job

do we have any reason to believe that andy didn’t do exactly that?

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Nov 2, 2011 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well that's my whole point

we don’t know.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Nov 2, 2011 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

So why you gotta act like you know when you don’t know?
It’s OK if you don’t know everything

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Nov 2, 2011 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Huh?

Is that a joke? If so, I don’t get it.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Nov 2, 2011 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

lyric.

ben folds

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Nov 2, 2011 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ah

brick is the extend of my knowledge.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Nov 2, 2011 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's worth going deeper for sure

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Nov 2, 2011 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's what she said.

"Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs." -- Earl Weaver

by Vuff on Nov 2, 2011 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

just my two cents, i’m guessing andy gave him plenty of authority and stockstill just didn’t have any good ideas.

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Nov 2, 2011 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

I mean that's certainly how I would read it too

but who knows. On the other hand, Andy has talked about he’s specifically opposed to the international signing process, so I could see him limiting the authority there.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Nov 2, 2011 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

that's true

no constraints on him regarding player development though.

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Nov 2, 2011 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah

although player development is much harder to assess what was done and how well it worked. I mean we all saw all these guys sucking shit, but who knows whether that was something the organization did or didn’t do or just pure bad luck.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Nov 2, 2011 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Then why would they put him in a position where he's in charge?

Unless he’ll take orders.

Contrary to DCO'sfan, I am Jewish.

by J(O's)elskIL on Nov 2, 2011 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

if he's hired, he's just a puppet anyway

If you look at those UZR ratings or whatever

by dfa on Nov 2, 2011 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Papelbon would do it for me

at least until he’s gone.

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Nov 2, 2011 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Honestly, when i got home last night and read the LaCava news, I seriously thought about it

I’m fairly sure I’m gonna be in the Philly area for the foreseeable future, and all my good friends are Phillies fans. It would not be that hard for me to switch over completely. But the more i thought about it, I just couldn’t do it. Sometimes i wish i could, but i just wouldn’t even know how.

by kba26 on Nov 2, 2011 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

ditto

I'll develop my own image. I'm an original man. A one and only. I just need some help.

by Andrew_G on Nov 2, 2011 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

The more you suffer, the more it shows you really care, right? Yeah!

"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP

by Eat More Esskay on Nov 2, 2011 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I know that I'm being used.

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Nov 2, 2011 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

I may be dumb, but I'm not a dweeb.

"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King

by duck on Nov 2, 2011 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah I can't do it.

I would imagine that as the years go on the losses will start to just sort of roll over me without as much of an impact as they have currently. Maybe I’ll watch 2-3 games a week instead of most of them, but who knows.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Nov 2, 2011 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have ties to the Royals and the Rockies...

And of course, I root for the Nats who actually seem like they have hope.

But the only thing that could ever cause me to not be an O’s fan, somewhere deep down inside, would be for them to relocate out of Maryland. If they did that, I would travel to their new city and burn every Orioles item I own. But other than that, people come and go, so there’s no one person that could cause me to give up on the O’s. And hell, the Cubs have gone longer than the O’s without a World Series and the Pirates are just as long without the playoffs… so I can’t complain too much right now.

by Tezcatlipoca on Nov 2, 2011 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Those things are pretty much continuous.

And they always confuse me. If you’ve been sticking it out for this long, why quit now? Like you said, it makes no sense. I think people just want to be attention whores when they say stuff like that.

"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP

by Eat More Esskay on Nov 2, 2011 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

"Buy low, sell high"

Not the other way around. So, we should be ready for a serious influx of new fans any time now.

"Work fast. Throw strikes. Change speeds." Ray Miller

by Zeke McGeek on Nov 2, 2011 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha, that's why I picked this team 14 years ago...

Still waiting to cash in.

"And, I'm guessing our soldiers are happy about this, that they're leaving Iraq. It is no fun being in a country where there is crumbling infrastructure and an ignorant population. But they said they are happy to come home anyway."

by WestcoastO'sFan on Nov 2, 2011 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gold, Jerry, Gold!

If you look at those UZR ratings or whatever

by dfa on Nov 2, 2011 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

things are gonna change

I can feel it

"Work fast. Throw strikes. Change speeds." Ray Miller

by Zeke McGeek on Nov 2, 2011 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Soy un perdedor.....

"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King

by duck on Nov 2, 2011 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

The only thing that could happen is that I become

a less committed fan. Less interested, watch less games, etc. and maybe over the years it will fade away completely.

Nah.

Contrary to DCO'sfan, I am Jewish.

by J(O's)elskIL on Nov 2, 2011 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, i could see this happening to me.

if stockstill is hired.

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Nov 2, 2011 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm already half way there

I won’t stop being an Orioles fan. I’ll stop being a fan of any MLB baseball team. I’ve become so disillusioned with the Orioles. Not to the point of hopping on the Phillies bandwagon, but just pushing away the temptation to blow off school work and watch O’s game. I’ll become apathetic.

Contrary to popular belief, I am not Jewish.

by DCO'sfan on Nov 2, 2011 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I admit, that's what I did with NASCAR and NHL

After Dale Sr. died, it took a few years, but I just stopped watching races. And after 20+ years of watching the Caps choke in the playoffs EVERY DAMN YEAR, I just stopped. Charlie Brown ain’t getting fooled with that football trick this year.

"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King

by duck on Nov 2, 2011 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Buster Olney

tweets

Buster_ESPN Buster Olney
There are other highly regarded assistant GMs telling friends they would not consider O’s job if called. O’s have major perception problem.

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Nov 2, 2011 6:46 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm guessing

that joking about killing Angelos is crossing a line, right? :P

"Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs." -- Earl Weaver

by Vuff on Nov 2, 2011 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

i just tweeted back at him

this is just media piling on. Any “highly regarded assistant” who would not consider the job if called is just plain stupid. Based on what they read in the media? Puhleeze.

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Nov 2, 2011 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Like this is going to happen:

Levine: Hi, it’s Thad Levine

Buck: Hi Thad, it’s Buck Showalter. We’d like to discuss the possibility of your being our new GM.

Levine: Sorry Buck. I won’t even consider that.

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Nov 2, 2011 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think thats an exaggeration of what he's saying

It definitely seems like DiPoto was never seriously considering us, and we don’t know how the LaCava process went. Its entirely possible that he was simply the most optimistic assistant out there and it took him longer than everyone else to figure out he didn’t want the job. Now that they’ve both passed, its going to be even harder to convince others that there’s nothing wrong with the job.

by kba26 on Nov 2, 2011 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

you think I'm exaggerating this?
There are other highly regarded assistant GMs telling friends they would not consider O’s job if called

That’s what he tweeted.

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Nov 2, 2011 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think you're exaggerating the meaning of "would not consider"

I doubt anyone would flat out refuse to sit down someone one for the Orioles, but i don’t think its unreasonable to believe that assistants we would want to hire that would rather stay assistants.

by kba26 on Nov 2, 2011 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm just taking him literally.

If he doesn’t mean “would not consider”, he should write, " would hesitate before taking the job."

Maybe that’s too many characters.

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Nov 2, 2011 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah,

I agree, but lots of people misuse “would not consider” to mean “would think about, but almost certainly say no”.

"Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs." -- Earl Weaver

by Vuff on Nov 2, 2011 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

A more likely scenario:

Levine: Hi, it’s Thad Levine

Buck: Hi Thad, it’s Buck Showalter. We’d like to discuss the possibility of your being our new GM.

Levine: You’re paying for dinner right? Sure i’ll consider it

by kba26 on Nov 2, 2011 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, I don't see that happening, exactly,

but I would think that the O’s perception problem, if Angelos is actually pushing people away, comes less from the media and more through the industry grapevine. I agree that it’d be silly to turn down the job because of some editorials, but I don’t think that’s what’s happening.

And yeah, “would not consider” isn’t really being used properly here — they’d likely consider it, and maybe go through the motions, but refuse the job.

"Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs." -- Earl Weaver

by Vuff on Nov 2, 2011 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m guessing industry personnel have been trashing the O’s for years now starting with Frank Wren and Pat Gillick.

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Nov 2, 2011 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

this is most certainly true. sigh.

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Nov 2, 2011 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hate how this convulted process has made me slip into

self rationalization/ bargaining.
“Great! LaCava is coming to interview.”
“OK, so not LaCava. But I’m sure there are plenty of other fine candidates.”
“Klentak should be fine too.”
“C’mon, how bad can Stockstill be?”
“Sure. Maybe having a GM/ manager isn’t IDEAL, but it’s Buck! We’ll be fine.”
“Fuck me.”

Contrary to DCO'sfan, I am Jewish.

by J(O's)elskIL on Nov 2, 2011 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

You know what else Buster Olney has tweeted before?

This. It has nothing to do wtith this current situation, but I’d like to remind you all that Buster Olney is an idiot.

by ahoque24 on Nov 2, 2011 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

olney is great for breaking news not his analysis.

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Nov 2, 2011 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

read heyman, rosenthal, and olney for the news and law, fangraphs, neyer for the analysis.

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Nov 2, 2011 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

one of them, yes.

although i’ll admit that i read him less now. his work has sort of deteriorated since moving over to SBN. plus, his novelty has sort of worn off. in 2004, he was the only sabermateric writers at a major news outlet. now with fangraphs, hardballtimes, baseballanalysts.com, keith law, etc, good sabermetric writers are a dime a dozen.

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Nov 2, 2011 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Isn't Heyman terrible for news?

He jumps at stories before they’re actually confirmed and just ends up looking like an ass when it doesn’t happen.

by ahoque24 on Nov 2, 2011 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

he's scott boras.com but he breaks a lot of news.

even if he sold his soul to the devil.

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Nov 2, 2011 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's a shotgun approach.

 He ends up getting the scoop more often than anyone else but its all because of sheer volume. Blind squirrels finding nuts.

Mother, did it need to be so high.

by salvotion on Nov 2, 2011 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

And...... someone finally spells it out

Danny Knobler:

Specifically, those sources said, LaCava wanted to clear out some long-term front-office people whose jobs have been protected by Angelos. Angelos refused to do that, even though he was willing to pay LaCava a competitive salary and to bring in other front-office people that LaCava wanted to hire (including Mike Berger, currently the director of pro scouting with the Diamondbacks).

……
So who gets the Orioles job now?

It won’t be LaCava, and it won’t be Jerry Dipoto, who interviewed with the Orioles before taking the general manager job with the Angels. And, according to sources, it’s very unlikely to be either De Jon Watson or John Stockstill, the only two other candidates interviewed before LaCava was offered the job.

So, basically, the Stockstills again? who else is in the FO that PA wouldn’t fire?

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Nov 2, 2011 7:00 PM EDT reply actions  

That is so absurd

If the GM can’t even assemble his own staff, we’re fucked

by kba26 on Nov 2, 2011 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey now

John Stockstill has a right to stay in the front office. Just ask Steve Melewski!

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Nov 2, 2011 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

and it's ridiculous that a manager couldn't assemble his own staff

but somehow the O’s found willing bodies.

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Nov 2, 2011 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Buck and Stockstill are untouchable

Whether they deserve it or not.

If you look at those UZR ratings or whatever

by dfa on Nov 2, 2011 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Buck?

I mean, he has a three-year contract, but I don’t think he’s untouchable. I also don’t think Buck is even close to being the problem .

by Stacey on Nov 2, 2011 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think the idea that Buck has more power than your normal manager is symbolic of the problem

I don’t mean to take a shot at Buck personally, more just the power structure that exists. My feeling is that Buck has Peter’s ear like the Stockstill.

If you look at those UZR ratings or whatever

by dfa on Nov 2, 2011 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

buck was in on the meetings with the GM candiates...

I’d say that makes him fairly untouchable, even if no one actually wants to get rid of him

by brek on Nov 2, 2011 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well they're not going to fire him in the middle of his contract I don't think

And right now I think Angelos is pretty enamored with him. But what he has going on is nothing like the Stockstill brothers.

by Stacey on Nov 2, 2011 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes...

there is at least a moderately successful body of work to which buck can point.

"If it sounded like I was delighted by Tony Romo’s failure last week, I was."
-chris cooley

by j.q. higgins on Nov 2, 2011 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

angelos was once enamored with ray miller. his contract wasn't renewed.

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Nov 2, 2011 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not sure I agree

I don’t know why the Stockstills are the chosen ones, but I think if the issue is direct line to Angelos, as opposed to a more normal chain of command, then Showalter does in fact have undue influence. (It’s worth noting that I agree that Buck is probably more qualified than the Stockstills to have this arrangement, but my beef is the power structure in a dysfunctional organization remaining largely intact.)

If you look at those UZR ratings or whatever

by dfa on Nov 2, 2011 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Buck has a resume and a history of success

The Stockstills have been shuffled around the organization like the screw up nephew that you don’t fire because you don’t want your sister to yell at you at Thanksgiving. It’s not the same at all.

by Stacey on Nov 2, 2011 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

I didn't mean to compare the validity of Buck and the Stockstills,

just that the Orioles org chart seems screwy and part of the problem.

If you look at those UZR ratings or whatever

by dfa on Nov 2, 2011 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

I got nephews and in-laws fuckin' all my shit up...

…but I can’t bust a cap in they ass without hearing about it come Thanksgiving time.

"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP

by Eat More Esskay on Nov 2, 2011 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Who knows. No one knows what happens behind the shadowy windows of...

…THE WAREHOUSE.
BUM BUM BUUUUM

Contrary to DCO'sfan, I am Jewish.

by J(O's)elskIL on Nov 2, 2011 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

The only way I see this working out

is if Klentak ends up getting the job and turns out better than anyone seems to be expecting.

"Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs." -- Earl Weaver

by Vuff on Nov 2, 2011 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

yup.

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Nov 2, 2011 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

This seems like the best case scenario.

"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP

by Eat More Esskay on Nov 2, 2011 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

PGA is from "Southern Maryland"?

If you look at those UZR ratings or whatever

by dfa on Nov 2, 2011 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey... you leave Southern Maryland out of this!

The bastard’s probably from Delaware or something…

by Tezcatlipoca on Nov 2, 2011 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought Southern Maryland was Northern Virginia?

"Human beings make life so interesting. Do you know, that in a universe so full of wonders, they have managed to invent boredom?" ~ Death

by NSOsFan on Nov 2, 2011 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's disappointing some random national media dude I've never heard of has to be the one to report this.

Rather than, y’know, an actual Orioles-focused writer.

"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP

by Eat More Esskay on Nov 2, 2011 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

you've never heard of buster olney?

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Nov 2, 2011 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I haven't seen Buster Olney report specifically that LaCava "wanted to clear out some long-term front office people"

And that Angelos refused and that’s why LaCava is still in Toronto.

This was the assumed course of events by most here at CC, but no reporter has put it so plain. The local people just hinted at “personnel issues”, which again, we all knew what that meant. It wasn’t stated right out, though.

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by Eat More Esskay on Nov 2, 2011 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

he's referring to Danny Knobler

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by zknower on Nov 2, 2011 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Matt's finally back to being an Oriole!

According to Rawlings.

"Human beings make life so interesting. Do you know, that in a universe so full of wonders, they have managed to invent boredom?" ~ Death

by NSOsFan on Nov 2, 2011 8:02 PM EDT reply actions  

You know, at least we didn't consider having a player-manager.

Then again, Wieters would probably make a good player-manager-GM.

by ahoque24 on Nov 2, 2011 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

At this point, might it start to be a good idea for Buck to be the GM?

If he is the only person who can work with PA? Just putting that out there.

"And, I'm guessing our soldiers are happy about this, that they're leaving Iraq. It is no fun being in a country where there is crumbling infrastructure and an ignorant population. But they said they are happy to come home anyway."

by WestcoastO'sFan on Nov 2, 2011 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe.

If he can hire competent people that he has connections with to handle scouting and player development, it wouldn’t be as bad as it sounds. Of course, that’s what seems to be the problem with working for Angelos.

by ahoque24 on Nov 2, 2011 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Catching you up on the twitter news, since I haven't seen any mentions of this stuff.
danconnollysun Dan Connolly
Some other names to consider for #Orioles GM search: CWS Rick Hahn, who probably wants to stay in Chicago, and former Bos GM Dan Duquette
danconnollysun Dan Connolly
Phillies ast GM Scott Proefrock will iview w/ #Orioles Thurs as @Ken_Rosenthal reported. Os also have asked to talk 2 Twins VP Mike Radcliff

"And, I'm guessing our soldiers are happy about this, that they're leaving Iraq. It is no fun being in a country where there is crumbling infrastructure and an ignorant population. But they said they are happy to come home anyway."

by WestcoastO'sFan on Nov 2, 2011 8:31 PM EDT reply actions  

dan duquette... it's so funny it hurts.

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Nov 2, 2011 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

In other news, we didn't win any silver slugger awards

"And, I'm guessing our soldiers are happy about this, that they're leaving Iraq. It is no fun being in a country where there is crumbling infrastructure and an ignorant population. But they said they are happy to come home anyway."

by WestcoastO'sFan on Nov 2, 2011 8:32 PM EDT reply actions  

I went to the Sun and was told I've used my 15 page views

so I took PhilR8’s advice and went incognito and now I can look at whatever I want on the Sun.

by Stacey on Nov 2, 2011 9:23 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

More twitter:
For anyone keeping score at home, #orioles will interview Proefrock, requested permission for Friedman, Hahn and Radcliff.

per Roch.

And not that he would ever be so foolhardy as to come here, but Friedman is plan E?

If you look at those UZR ratings or whatever

by dfa on Nov 2, 2011 9:23 PM EDT reply actions  

I think all these guys

are now officially plan “sort of sticky shit to throw at walls in hopes something sticks.”

Tommy hunter still sucks!

by Steve. on Nov 2, 2011 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Who would take the job now?

I’m considering withdrawing my name from consideration…

If you look at those UZR ratings or whatever

by dfa on Nov 2, 2011 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well

at least some of these guys are interesting.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Nov 2, 2011 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Awww...
@keithlaw: No. RT @eckelberry Would you take the Orioles GM job?

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by Vuff on Nov 2, 2011 9:59 PM EDT reply actions  

good,

asshole

"And, I'm guessing our soldiers are happy about this, that they're leaving Iraq. It is no fun being in a country where there is crumbling infrastructure and an ignorant population. But they said they are happy to come home anyway."

by WestcoastO'sFan on Nov 2, 2011 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Not sure I blame him

but it’s much easier to sit back a safe distance and take pot shots rather than be a decision maker.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Nov 2, 2011 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

he said he would take a front office given certain circumstances.

but he’s very happy at ESPN and it’s isn’t all that interested in leaving. he has a daughter and his ESPN gig allows him a lot freedom to spend time with his daughter. plus, as O’sfan21 said although he would never say this, but he definitely enjoys criticizing the ship more than building one.

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Nov 2, 2011 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

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