Sunday Bird Droppings
by duck on Nov 20, 2011 8:03 AM EST
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PrintThere's not much out there in the news concerning all things Orioles, but here's what I found.
Amber Theoharis: Orioles need to be big player in free agency
"With a solid core of talented young position players in place, the impact of adding one top-of-the-rotation starter could be huge. I don't believe the O's are as far away from competing as Duquette implied in his initial press conference two weeks ago." Oh, Amber, why have you forsaken logic and reason?
School of Roch: Luke Scott: "When they're ready, I'll be ready"
Luke Scott on his contract status: "I haven't been too concerned about it. It's not taking up any of my thoughts or time. I know it will happen when it happens. There's a new GM. I understand they have a lot to talk about. When they're ready, I'll be ready."
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I kinda agree with Amber
I think that the feeling driving the article in the first place is that we’ve given up on the team and resigned ourselves to losing season 15, that’s how pervasive the culture of losing has become. I think she does underestimate the problems a bit, as you likely will need a #1 and #2 guy, a good corner infielder, and maybe one more guy in the outfield (not sold on Reimold), not to mention trying to figure out what to do with second, while hoping that the players that remain inprove their numbers from last year. Now I don’t think that these need to be stop-gap one year signing of players that are one or two years from retirement. But given the position we are in, we need to take some acceptable risks and not simply shy away from a Free Agents after being burned badly by players like Guererro.
Buehrle or any other high-profile FA would be toward the end of their (neccesarily) overpriced
contract before the O’s are ready to compete, especially in the ALE. Even if we compete in 3 years, which we should all acknowledge is very unlikely, than 2 years of his contract were wasted along with $20M+. Next year there are better pitchers becoming FAs, but those will also likey be pointless to sign if they aren’t the pieces to finish the puzzle. You just can’t build around FAs unless you go balls-deep and hope for the best before you run out of money and have to trade them away. No one but the MFY can do that.
TL;DR, any big FA signings is just lipstick on a pig at this point.
by J(O's)elskIL on Nov 20, 2011 9:39 AM EST up reply actions
Wait, we’re still three years from competing? Damn. That sucks.
by thewaywardO on Nov 20, 2011 10:18 AM EST up reply actions
No no, not 3 years
Until the front office proves it can evaluate and develop talent the O’s are an infinite number of years from competing. 3 years is based on hope and prayer.
"The key to winning baseball games is pitching, fundamentals, and three-run homers."
by ThreeRunHomer on Nov 20, 2011 10:27 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
For the record.
I don’t think we are 3 years from contending. I was just saying even if we were glue sniffing high and thought that we could compete in 3 years, that we would have already wasted two years of any FA that we sign this year.
by J(O's)elskIL on Nov 20, 2011 10:43 AM EST up reply actions
The Orioles have a ton of home grown talent.
by thewaywardO on Nov 20, 2011 10:43 AM EST up reply actions
I was going along and feeling pretty good while reading Amber’s article. She was convincing me. Then the IF Matuz has a bounce back season came up and I was sad. We do need to pick up some good FA pieces but overpaying for players in their twilight will not help this team and I’m not sure we have the ability to bring in a really good player in their prime.
So that leaves us with the farm system which hopefully Duquette can turn around, he claims its right up his alley after all.
I underrstand what Ambe's getting at,
but Kevin Millwood, Michael Gonzalez, Vladimir Guerrero, Derrek Lee, Garrett Atkins. I’d love to see the Orioles get some big name players, but as far as “last big payday” signings, it hasn’t really panned out.
Robert Andino, let me buy you a beer.
Well, so much for The Pac-10's best team
and the Big 12’s best team. Looking more and more like a rematch of LSU-Bama. Unless Arkansas beats LSU, in which case it’s probably 2 of the 3 SEC teams. But then does a 1 loss Bama team get in over a 1 loss LSU team that beat them? Craziness.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
I hate the thought of all-SEC final thats also a rematch
but after last night, nothing else really makes sense besides LSU-Alabama.The best chance to avoid that is Oklahoma State beating Oklahoma and them winning the Big 12 championship game and then hoping the voters don’t want a rematch either.
How does Oak State get in
after losing to unranked Iowa though? And Oak just lost to #22. Meanwhile, Bama’s only loss is a 3 point OT loss to the #1 team in the nation. I don’t see it happening.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
Voters would just have to be really really adverse to a rematch
I don’t see it either. Might have a stronger argument for Virginia Tech if they beat Virginia and then avenge their one loss to Clemson.
Amber's drinking just a liiiittle too much Kool-Aid.
There were more "if"s in that piece than a – something that has a lot of "if"s in it.
More IFs than
a COBOL program.
[geekin’ it old school]
Like a bad, suave dude. You know what I'm sayin'. COOL. SC 7/24/08
by 33 on Nov 20, 2011 9:42 AM EST up reply actions
More "if"s than a C program before learning switch
by J(O's)elskIL on Nov 20, 2011 9:45 AM EST up reply actions
That's a mobile rec
Damn, that’s funny.
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
by duck on Nov 20, 2011 10:39 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
More IFs than the 2008 Orioles.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Nov 20, 2011 11:25 AM EST up reply actions
she does this every year.
she’s a fangirl through and through. i remember we had a seasonal sidebar story comparing amber’s projections with actual results.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
Jon Huntsman is kind of a cool guy.
In other news, I think I might take the Bengals
"And, I'm guessing our soldiers are happy about this, that they're leaving Iraq. It is no fun being in a country where there is crumbling infrastructure and an ignorant population. But they said they are happy to come home anyway."
by WestcoastO'sFan on Nov 20, 2011 11:44 AM EST reply actions
the bad boy of utah politics!
"Three thousand years of beautiful tradition,from Moses to Sandy Koufax,YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT I'M LIVING IN THE FUCKING PAST!"- Walter Sobchak
by j.q. higgins on Nov 20, 2011 11:47 AM EST up reply actions
You can have Huntsman
But I took the Bengals as well. Time to make a move! Picking chalk won’t get it done!
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
who knows,
BAL just lost to Seattle
"And, I'm guessing our soldiers are happy about this, that they're leaving Iraq. It is no fun being in a country where there is crumbling infrastructure and an ignorant population. But they said they are happy to come home anyway."
by WestcoastO'sFan on Nov 20, 2011 12:06 PM EST up reply actions
I know it won't have writing depth
But this poster made 12 year old me geek out.
"Human beings make life so interesting. Do you know, that in a universe so full of wonders, they have managed to invent boredom?" ~ Death
Nobody picked the Eagles?
Good, cuse they suck. Suprised zk didn’t take WAS.
"And, I'm guessing our soldiers are happy about this, that they're leaving Iraq. It is no fun being in a country where there is crumbling infrastructure and an ignorant population. But they said they are happy to come home anyway."
by WestcoastO'sFan on Nov 20, 2011 12:06 PM EST reply actions
me too
and they almost pulled it out
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
wait, that makes no sense as written
i picked the eagles until vick was down….
…and washington almost pulled it out.
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
Yu Darvish
Chances of posting: 50-50
"Human beings make life so interesting. Do you know, that in a universe so full of wonders, they have managed to invent boredom?" ~ Death
Anyone know who is starting at qb for the skins?
"And, I'm guessing our soldiers are happy about this, that they're leaving Iraq. It is no fun being in a country where there is crumbling infrastructure and an ignorant population. But they said they are happy to come home anyway."
by WestcoastO'sFan on Nov 20, 2011 12:51 PM EST reply actions
I liked Amber as a sideline reporter
but was there ever much reason to think she was particularly insightful?
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Amber is wrong
Amber fails to compare the Orioles’ talent, both at the major league and the minor league level, against the other teams in the AL East. The Os are last. Having some talent, whatever a “core” is, does not make a team a contender. Compared with 2007, for instance, the team is much better. But, compared against our competition, the Orioles do not match up. We need more rebuilding.
The Os’ management has gone from pathetic to average. The Os won’t win unless management becomes exceptionally good.
DD's comments on Boston radio
DD sounds right. He observes that the Os have hit on one player in the last 11 years despite drafting high. He means Wieters not Markakis. He faults drafting and development. He does not want to sign an expensive FA.
I honestly think his contract will hold back any trades
He wasn’t bad last year, but he’s gonna make >$43M over the next three years.
Doesn't matter about his contract. Angelos would step in on any Markakis trade, I feel.
And who’s going to give us value after seeing last season?
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Nov 20, 2011 6:06 PM EST up reply actions
Agree
Trading Markakis is nearly impossible because of the contract. And the slap hitting.
"The key to winning baseball games is pitching, fundamentals, and three-run homers."
by ThreeRunHomer on Nov 21, 2011 8:26 AM EST up reply actions
Wigglepuff to the Phils. So he will make his return to the Yards next year. Hoo-rah.
I drink more brewsters than Punky
Awesome ending to NASCAR season going on
Top 2 drivers in points are 1-2 in race. Winner gets the season championship.
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
by duck on Nov 20, 2011 7:54 PM EST via mobile reply actions
in other news
hey guys, come watch this paint drying with me!
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
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