Tuesday Bird Droppings
by Stacey on Nov 22, 2011 7:12 AM EST
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PrintCongratulations to zknower for winning week eleven of CC Pick 'Em! It was the closest week yet, with four people tied going into MNF, but zk's pick of 38 points was just one off of the combined scored between the Patriots and Chiefs.
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Ugh...girls in these pick'em pools can get really annoying (no offense to those ladies who aren't annoying in pick'em pools)
The one girl in my office pick’em has her boyfriend do all of her picks for her. She finally won a week (thanks to the MNF points) and was like….“oh, I didn’t even try this week and still won.” I have to listen to this pretty much every week. What a pain.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
Hah, TL got beat by a girl!!!!
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Nov 22, 2011 8:58 AM EST up reply actions
Actually....now that I look at it, I got beat by two girls.
One’s actually making her own picks though.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 22, 2011 9:02 AM EST up reply actions
yeah well, you got beat by one too since Stacey picked up two games on you there champ
clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...
True...she isn't annoying about it though.
And, as far as we know, makes her own picks.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 22, 2011 9:09 AM EST up reply actions
I think that's as valid a method
as anything else I’ve seen tried.
"Work fast. Throw strikes. Change speeds." Ray Miller
by Zeke McGeek on Nov 22, 2011 12:24 PM EST up reply actions
It's obviously killing my "pretend you actually know something about football" method.
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
one of my coworkers
picks teams by the cities she’d like to visit – and she managed to win one week last year… whatever works for you.
The person who introduced Andrew to baseball and the O's
This might be fake, but
craigslist is wonderful sometimes
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
Chong
The stats from Korea are not comprehensive, but we do know that he has a reasonably low H/9, but he walks a lot of guys (3.27 BB/9) especially compared to the low number of strikeouts he has (7.08 K/9). His principle strength appears to be an extremely low HR rates. For the last three seasons, he’s allowed only one HR per season, for a 0.19 HR/9.
I was wondering how the KBO and MLB compare on strikeouts and walks, so I did a quick check. KBO averages 3.8 walks per game while MLB averages 3.1. KBO averages 6.6 strikeouts per game while MLB averages 7.1. It strikes me that Korean hitters trade off power for more patience and contact. I can’t find enough statistics to figure out how Kim Byung-Hyun fare in these rate stats between his time in MLB and the Japanese League.
I’m concerned if we’re picking up a guy who can’t get the ball over, since Chong will likely be coming into the game after Gregg’s walked the bases loaded. But, it looks like he might be able to take advantage of more aggressive MLB hitters. If he keeps the ball sinking, he should be able to be a slightly better than league-average 7th / 8th inning guy.
I love that we snared a Wyvern
My fave fantasy creature from D&D days.
Crazy to make any judgements on those little clips, but my flash reaction was that he’s one of those guys who throws low but his pitches finish up. That can work in a real strikezone, but in the MLB strikezone where the high strike has totally disappeared… Suffice it say, I have an irrational fear that he will walk even more over here than in the KBO.
On the other hand, props to the O’s front office for locating Korea on a map.
Like a bad, suave dude. You know what I'm sayin'. COOL. SC 7/24/08
by 33 on Nov 22, 2011 9:42 AM EST up reply actions
can we start calling him
“The Korean Todd Frohwirth”??
by AndrewTorrez on Nov 22, 2011 10:45 AM EST up reply actions
so he's another chad bradford but with more walks.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
For the soccer fans: pretty cool stadiums for Euro 2012
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
This is what makes baseball greater than all other sports...
Actual unique stadiums. The majority of stadiums in baseball, you know where you are. They’re unique. They incorporate into the city. There are some NFL stadiums that are more unique than average, but rarely do they incorporate into a city and become identifiable with that city. College stadiums are better for variety (one of my favorites is the University of Colorado).
Current European stadium design is awful. Closed-in bowls. Yes, they are modern closed in bowls, but they’re still Veterans Stadium for a new decade.
by Tezcatlipoca on Nov 22, 2011 9:57 AM EST up reply actions
It's soccer....you kinda want a closed bowl so you can actually see.
That’s why football games aren’t played in baseball stadiums.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 22, 2011 9:59 AM EST up reply actions
I certainly understand why stadiums end up the way they are...
I’m just saying that if you set the sport aside, Camden Yards or PNC Park are more beautiful than Allianz Arena in Munich or Red Bull Arena in New Jersey, in my opinion.
by Tezcatlipoca on Nov 22, 2011 10:17 AM EST up reply actions
Personally, I think Allianz is gorgeous
and the color changing exterior is one of the most unique stadium features in the world
Allianz is one of the better soccer-style arenas in the world.
I like lighting, but I don’t think it outweighs the actual structure itself. That being said, the exterior does have a certain visual quality.
However, can you name the following stadiums without looking them up?
There are some soccer stadiums that maintain a unique look from the inside… though I feel they are more the exception than the rule.
by Tezcatlipoca on Nov 22, 2011 10:34 AM EST up reply actions
2nd one is wembley
3rd is allianz. 4th is the Russian one, can’t remember its name. 1st one i don’t know.
heh...beat me to wembley.
I saw that right away.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 22, 2011 10:40 AM EST up reply actions
Nicely done.
May I ask what identifying features you used… how you made your identifications?
by Tezcatlipoca on Nov 22, 2011 10:45 AM EST up reply actions
The roof on Wembley was easy
The overhang on Allianz always reminds me of RFK stadium too.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 22, 2011 10:45 AM EST up reply actions
Like twisted said, Wembley's the easiest
especially with the bright red seats. Allianz i got because i was just looking at pictures when were talking about it earlier. Luzhniki stands out due to the track and the roof.
theres also no reason the inside of a stadium should be that unique
you have a regularly shaped field that people are spending the vast majority of their time looking at. Interior stadium design should prioritize two things: (1) sight lines, and (2) ingress/egress. You want unique architectural touches, do it in the concourses and the exterior.
Interior stadium design should prioritize two things: (1) sight lines, and (2) ingress/egress.
I completely agree with these priorities. A fundamental tenant of architecture is “form follows function.” That being said, I don’t think that unique architecture touches are mutually exclusive with the top two priorities.
by Tezcatlipoca on Nov 22, 2011 10:46 AM EST up reply actions
Put Wembley next to other stadiums and you'll probably take Wembley.
Great design.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 22, 2011 10:46 AM EST up reply actions
Okay, here's one area I simply don't know enough about...
I’ve been in the upper deck at Beaver Stadium and in the upper deck at M&T Stadium. The Ravens game was very watchable in our endzone from that point of view (directly in the middle of the endzone in the upper deck). The upper deck at Beaver Stadium makes it more difficult, even when the game is at your half of the field. On the other half, both stadiums suffer a severely degraded quality of experience.
I don’t know how these experiences would translate to a soccer game, as the largest soccer stadium I’ve been in is… um… my high school girlfriend’s games in our 2,000 seat football stadium. Is there a point at which you just can’t get any more spectators around a soccer field and still have it be enjoyable for all? Is there an ideal stadium attendance target?
by Tezcatlipoca on Nov 22, 2011 10:50 AM EST up reply actions
I think in general its easier to watch soccer than football from a distance
since the action is more spread out. My MLS season tickets are in the 10th row, and I often wish i was actually up a little higher, especially when the action is on the other side of the field.
Where's New Jersey?
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 22, 2011 10:20 AM EST up reply actions
I agree that baseball stadiums tend to be more beautiful
but Red Bull stadium is pretty cool looking. And trust me, it’s better off not being identifiable with the area it is in.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
Haha... good point.
Some areas don’t need to be highlighted.
There’s a trend in MLS right now to build soccer-specific stadiums in the 20,000 seat range that actually do intrigue me architecturally. As per my earlier comment, I feel like that 20,000 mark is a pretty solid goal for achieving a stadium that is functionally perfect for a fan’s experience, but also architecturally attractive for the exterior and interior.
by Tezcatlipoca on Nov 22, 2011 10:53 AM EST up reply actions
The big problem with the MLS stadiums is that many of them were designed by the same company
so while each one certainly has its unique features, they ended up looking pretty uniform
like...
many of the new baseball stadiums were designed by the same firm that designed opacy. it shows.
"Three thousand years of beautiful tradition,from Moses to Sandy Koufax,YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT I'M LIVING IN THE FUCKING PAST!"- Walter Sobchak
by j.q. higgins on Nov 22, 2011 11:11 AM EST up reply actions
Fair points...
I’ve noted that Nationals Stadium is a nice enough place to watch a baseball game, but it’s definitely a bit stale as far as stadium design and has absolutely no relationship with one of the most iconic cities in the world.
by Tezcatlipoca on Nov 22, 2011 11:15 AM EST up reply actions
I couldn't agree more
I am so disappointed by the stadium. Given the location, they could have made it so nice. All they had to do was… turn it around! Let the outfield open to a water view instead of a view of the parking garage and the metro stop.
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Nov 22, 2011 11:24 AM EST up reply actions
Well...it wouldn't quite be a water view.
Nobody would actually see the water from their seats. All they’d see is Anacostia and I’d rather look at the Metro stop.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 22, 2011 11:28 AM EST up reply actions
What are you, standing right there on the promenade while typing this?
Here we go again.
At the very least it’d probably have a view of some nice architecture in or beyond the Navy Yard area.
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Nov 22, 2011 11:36 AM EST up reply actions
Haha...I'm in the office building next door to Nats Park as I type
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 22, 2011 1:12 PM EST up reply actions
There's multiple issues that Nationals Stadium fails on...
1) The facade. Where’s the marble? Where’s any kind of connection to the architecture of Washington? Where’s the neoclassical or the Georgian? Even compared to the other modern buildings in DC, it doesn’t seem to fit.
2) The location. I understand that part of the goal is to revive that area of DC, but the overall urban plan there is horrible. It is just so boxy and bland, without any sense of community (good friends live right next to the stadium).
3) The view. As others have noted, there’s quite a few nice things to look at in DC. However, if you’re standing on home plate, would you know what city you’re in?
by Tezcatlipoca on Nov 22, 2011 11:43 AM EST up reply actions
What are you talking about?
You don’t own a Tebow.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 22, 2011 9:47 AM EST up reply actions
Graham Gano > Tebow
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 22, 2011 10:01 AM EST up reply actions
sadly, yes.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 22, 2011 9:59 AM EST up reply actions
That might be Photoshopped
I can tell from the pixels.
"Work fast. Throw strikes. Change speeds." Ray Miller
by Zeke McGeek on Nov 22, 2011 10:30 AM EST up reply actions
whatcha lookin' at?
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 22, 2011 10:30 AM EST up reply actions
I just don't see Hoes as a real COF prospect
As a middle infielder; sure, we can all get behind one of the few guys in the O’s organization who will take a walk. But as a LF/RF? Not a chance. Also, despite decent footspeed, he has not spent so much as a single inning in CF, so I think that’s not a realistic destination either.
That is where I'm at too,
I just don’t see a path to a majors unless he can play second, which apparently he cannot do.
If you look at those UZR ratings or whatever
so...
i know andrew and i have been a few rounds on this type of issue, but is there a chance of hoes fitting into left as a brett gardner type? he doesn’t seem to have the abysmal SLG issues of, say, a kyle hudson or matt angle.
"Three thousand years of beautiful tradition,from Moses to Sandy Koufax,YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT I'M LIVING IN THE FUCKING PAST!"- Walter Sobchak
by j.q. higgins on Nov 22, 2011 10:57 AM EST up reply actions
If his defense were that good
nobody would talk about maybe moving him back to second.
I'll develop my own image. I'm an original man. A one and only. I just need some help.
Why can't Hoes learn?
Anything stopping him from taking 500 grounders a day for the next three months?
by Tezcatlipoca on Nov 22, 2011 10:57 AM EST up reply actions
I think that remains to be seen.
And I think his bat could also play at third if needed.
by J(O's)elskIL on Nov 22, 2011 11:04 AM EST up reply actions
Socolovich
I think the weird thing is that Camden Depot advocated for signing him last week and here he is. Not sure who gets the credit on this one!
If you look at those UZR ratings or whatever
Anyone wanna play risk?
I hope it is still allowed. That fascist Tracey is really impinging on our freedoms!
"And, I'm guessing our soldiers are happy about this, that they're leaving Iraq. It is no fun being in a country where there is crumbling infrastructure and an ignorant population. But they said they are happy to come home anyway."
by WestcoastO'sFan on Nov 22, 2011 11:44 AM EST reply actions
Am I the only one who thinks it looks like Jackie Chan?
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Nov 22, 2011 12:12 PM EST up reply actions
yea...i can play
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 22, 2011 1:13 PM EST up reply actions
too late
I cant
"And, I'm guessing our soldiers are happy about this, that they're leaving Iraq. It is no fun being in a country where there is crumbling infrastructure and an ignorant population. But they said they are happy to come home anyway."
by WestcoastO'sFan on Nov 22, 2011 1:16 PM EST up reply actions
weak sauce!
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 22, 2011 1:17 PM EST up reply actions
who else?
i could.
tez? kba?
"Three thousand years of beautiful tradition,from Moses to Sandy Koufax,YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT I'M LIVING IN THE FUCKING PAST!"- Walter Sobchak
by j.q. higgins on Nov 22, 2011 1:18 PM EST up reply actions
well that's 4
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 22, 2011 1:20 PM EST up reply actions
who's setting this up?
me? you?
"Three thousand years of beautiful tradition,from Moses to Sandy Koufax,YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT I'M LIVING IN THE FUCKING PAST!"- Walter Sobchak
by j.q. higgins on Nov 22, 2011 1:28 PM EST up reply actions
you.
I’m working feverishly to get something done so I can actually play.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 22, 2011 1:29 PM EST up reply actions
Haha...it was supposed to be finished last week, but I was waiting on slow people to get their contributions done.
I’m just packaging it up etc.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 22, 2011 1:33 PM EST up reply actions
That said, I can play.
I just don’t want to set it up right now while I’m trying to finish something. If jq can handle it, we’re good.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 22, 2011 1:34 PM EST up reply actions
on it...
phil, you in?
"Three thousand years of beautiful tradition,from Moses to Sandy Koufax,YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT I'M LIVING IN THE FUCKING PAST!"- Walter Sobchak
by j.q. higgins on Nov 22, 2011 1:34 PM EST up reply actions
should be up and running...
kba’s up.
"Three thousand years of beautiful tradition,from Moses to Sandy Koufax,YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT I'M LIVING IN THE FUCKING PAST!"- Walter Sobchak
by j.q. higgins on Nov 22, 2011 1:40 PM EST up reply actions
swell.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 22, 2011 1:40 PM EST up reply actions
I'm boycotting Risk because y'all don't let me win.
I also have work to do today. It’s work that I can totally procrastinate on, but the fact that I have work means I need to have text on my screen, not pictures of little numbers moving around the world.
by Tezcatlipoca on Nov 22, 2011 1:20 PM EST up reply actions
I also got 5 503 errors before I could get this page up.
"And, I'm guessing our soldiers are happy about this, that they're leaving Iraq. It is no fun being in a country where there is crumbling infrastructure and an ignorant population. But they said they are happy to come home anyway."
by WestcoastO'sFan on Nov 22, 2011 12:13 PM EST up reply actions
Hey nerds
http://dealnews.com/Lenovo-B570-Intel-Dual-Core-2.1-GHz-16-Laptop-for-330-free-shipping/521121.html
Thoughts? I was going to wait for black friday, but this seems pretty awesome.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
looks pretty good
my GF got a Lenovo Thinkpad last year. It’s built like a tank. I don’t really like the layout of the keyboard but it’s a solid piece of hardware.
Also, my new Dell Vostro has a fingerprint reader and I love it. That’s how I unlock windows instead of typing in a password.
I had a Lenovo at my old company and always liked it
glad you had good things to say about the finger print reader – wasn’t sure about that.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
probably worth mentioning that it only includes Office "Starter Edition"
which I think is just excel and word with ads.
Are black friday deals already announced?
At the risk of sounding totally ignorant. haha
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Haha yeah
there’s a few sites that consolidate all the deals. I like TGI Black Friday
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Nov 22, 2011 12:25 PM EST up reply actions
Thanks man
by the way did you see my question the other day about the people you knew at Tom Tom? Wasn’t sure if you didn’t want to answer or just didn’t see it. haha
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Reynaldo huh?
Not ringing a bell. Would this be someone that worked there or someone’s punk Arlington friend that might have started shit? We’ve cycled a lot of both through that place.
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Nov 22, 2011 12:34 PM EST up reply actions
haha
I thought he worked there, but not 100% positive. He definitely would have brought punk Arlington friends that might have started shit if he weren’t starting shit himself though.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
We had so many bouncers and BOH people go through that place
I’d probably know him if I saw him. I was there from 04-09. My buddy Nik ran the place and is from Arlington. He hired a lot of people he knew from when he was a kid. He now owns The Blaguard on 18th and U and is doing good things with it. He’s in the process of hopefully getting a roofdeck that would have a panoramic view of the Mall.
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Nov 22, 2011 12:41 PM EST up reply actions
Ah ok
I’ll have to check out the Blaguard – sounds like a cool place.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
i know that place!
not bad.
"Three thousand years of beautiful tradition,from Moses to Sandy Koufax,YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT I'M LIVING IN THE FUCKING PAST!"- Walter Sobchak
by j.q. higgins on Nov 22, 2011 12:45 PM EST up reply actions
Gotta get back down there, I've been awful about visiting.
Maybe I can let you guys know if/when I do.
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Nov 22, 2011 12:50 PM EST up reply actions
Definitely
plan your trip for when they start the raw bar offering – says it’s coming soon on the website.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
That site you were on. Dealnews.
They have a whole section of the site dedicated to it. You can search by category. They have all of the announced and rumored laptop deals plainly laid out. The lowest I see for a similar laptop is 300
I'd like the GHz to be a little higher
Otherwise solid. From my bud who knows this stuff: “with windows 7 you want like 2.5+ and at leeeast 4gb ram”
Best Buy has this for $179 on Black Friday. You could might maybe get that and then spruce up the RAM yourself to save some cash. There’s so many options.
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Nov 22, 2011 12:24 PM EST up reply actions
So
does that rule of thumb about 2.5+ ghz apply regardless of usage? This will be a strictly Word, Excel, Powerpoint, browsing laptop if that matters.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
You'll be fine for those things
I’m not sure the GHz matters too much in this case because this is a value processor. It’s the latest from intel but it’s not the i3/i5/i7 you see advertised on tv, it’s their lower-tier “mobile” processor. So it’s hard to make a judgment on GHz alone.
Yeah I'm with that
RAM allows you to do more stuff at once without bogging down.
GHz makes processes run faster. But I don’t know enough about individual processors to answer.
You can always downgrade Windows 7 to get faster performance too, but I’ve never tried to do that.
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Nov 22, 2011 12:32 PM EST up reply actions
And these days,
architecture and number of cores matter significantly more than raw frequency.
"Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs." -- Earl Weaver
browsing porn
"And, I'm guessing our soldiers are happy about this, that they're leaving Iraq. It is no fun being in a country where there is crumbling infrastructure and an ignorant population. But they said they are happy to come home anyway."
by WestcoastO'sFan on Nov 22, 2011 12:29 PM EST up reply actions
You know who annoys me?
The blonde chick in The Walking Dead, (Angie?), you don’t get to just shoot people in the head like that. Also, if they find the girl alive it will just end up being really lame.
"And, I'm guessing our soldiers are happy about this, that they're leaving Iraq. It is no fun being in a country where there is crumbling infrastructure and an ignorant population. But they said they are happy to come home anyway."
by WestcoastO'sFan on Nov 22, 2011 12:27 PM EST reply actions
"it will just end up being really lame"
like the rest of that terrible, terrible, terrible show
I'll develop my own image. I'm an original man. A one and only. I just need some help.
The first season was good.
This season was supposed to be all “THE GROUP IS DIVIDED! THERE IS FIGHTING IN THE RANKS!” and it hasn’t been that at all. They are just chilling at a farm house, fucking each other, and generally having a pretty swell time. Oh, and looking for an eight year old girl with AMAZING survival instincts.
"And, I'm guessing our soldiers are happy about this, that they're leaving Iraq. It is no fun being in a country where there is crumbling infrastructure and an ignorant population. But they said they are happy to come home anyway."
by WestcoastO'sFan on Nov 22, 2011 12:41 PM EST up reply actions
I had to take it off my DVR
I couldn’t take anymore. The last one I saw was when Shane did that thing at the school.
I'll develop my own image. I'm an original man. A one and only. I just need some help.
I think they're going to get better.
This past episode was pushing some of the more interesting plot points. The adultery has been revealed, there are zombies 100 feet away, and Shane might kill more people.
Yeah that little girl thing is really dragging down the plot
it’ll get more awesome once they get off the farm.
I have to attack the argument, not the person
so let me say your argument is so stupid it could only be formulated by a stupid idiot jerkface. But you’re still cool.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
by daveh873 on Nov 22, 2011 12:43 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Homeland >>>>>
"And, I'm guessing our soldiers are happy about this, that they're leaving Iraq. It is no fun being in a country where there is crumbling infrastructure and an ignorant population. But they said they are happy to come home anyway."
by WestcoastO'sFan on Nov 22, 2011 12:46 PM EST up reply actions
The Wire>>>>>>
I’ll get to Homeland and the Walking Dead in about 5 years.
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Nov 22, 2011 12:49 PM EST up reply actions
If you're not a zombie fan, I suggest skipping The Walking Dead
I started TWD right after I finished with Breaking Bad, and the difference in quality is staggering. If you’re just looking for top-flight television regardless of genre, TWD isn’t going to be on your list.
The comic >>>>> the show
"Human beings make life so interesting. Do you know, that in a universe so full of wonders, they have managed to invent boredom?" ~ Death
Here is a complete list of characters on that show I found compelling
1) That one guy from the pilot who disappeared
I'll develop my own image. I'm an original man. A one and only. I just need some help.
Eh, whatever
I love it, and I don’t think it’s going anywhere, so I’m good.
I thought Community was kinda boring and tried to hard, so to each his own I guess.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
I am on the lookout for more shows
now I’m down to just Parks and Rec until the Adventures of Raylan Givens comes back in January. Anybody got any suggestions?
I'll develop my own image. I'm an original man. A one and only. I just need some help.
I had a bunch of them
but they all ended. In truth, I’ve been watching a lot of stuff on netflix, but its not as exciting as live tv.
I'll develop my own image. I'm an original man. A one and only. I just need some help.
2 or 3 in Dec.
After that is still a “?”
"If you don't like the effect, don't produce the cause."
- George Clinton
They just need to hold on for one more season until they hit syndication potential
then the economics of keeping it on the air become a lot more viable
two more episodes in December
and then maybe in April or something it will come back
I'll develop my own image. I'm an original man. A one and only. I just need some help.
It's probably not your thing
But I’m really enjoying that new show Once Upon a Time. Also, I don’t know if he was a one time character or if he’ll be back, but the guy who played Gus Fring was in an episode and he wasn’t evil and it creeped me out.
I asked a friend of mine about them
and was basically told that I was better off watching re-runs of Buffy
I'll develop my own image. I'm an original man. A one and only. I just need some help.
See I find Grimm to be much less interesting
It’s basically a crime procedural with some supernatural thrown in.
I watch "Once Upon A Time"...
Mostly because I crush on Jennifer Morrison.
by Tezcatlipoca on Nov 22, 2011 1:06 PM EST up reply actions
actually
i did just catch Tony Bourdain’s new show last night, and will keep coming back for more of that. So I’m at two shows, plus The Soup, which is basically not a real thing anyway.
I'll develop my own image. I'm an original man. A one and only. I just need some help.
I loved Alison Brie on The Soup the other night
right after they found out about Community getting bumped
At least she's got a Plan B with "Mad Men"...
Danny Pudi and Donald Glover will have a Saturday morning cartoon based on them.
Chevy Chase will be roasted some day.
The rest will never be seen or heard from again.
by Tezcatlipoca on Nov 22, 2011 1:10 PM EST up reply actions
I have to think Brie, McHale, and Glover are all
building good career footholds with Community (at least).
I'll develop my own image. I'm an original man. A one and only. I just need some help.
ken jeong?
"Three thousand years of beautiful tradition,from Moses to Sandy Koufax,YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT I'M LIVING IN THE FUCKING PAST!"- Walter Sobchak
by j.q. higgins on Nov 22, 2011 1:12 PM EST up reply actions
Hangover made him, no?
I'll develop my own image. I'm an original man. A one and only. I just need some help.
Did anyone else know he's an actual doctor?
He completed his undergraduate studies at Duke University in 1990 and attained his medical degree at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill in 1995.2 He then completed his Internal Medicine residency at Ochsner Medical Center in New Orleans while developing his stand-up comedy.
Patch Adams was Chinese!
And they totally changed his race… racist bastards!
by Tezcatlipoca on Nov 22, 2011 1:21 PM EST up reply actions
Yvette Nicole Brown and Gillian Jacobs might fade away a bit
but I’d expect everyone else to pop back up in something else relatively quickly
To clarify...
My original comment on this was meant to breakdown who will achieve greater success than “Community” some day and who will not. Surely, they’ll all have some kind of work here and there, but I doubt if many will end up starring in another sitcom or getting into comedy movies.
by Tezcatlipoca on Nov 22, 2011 1:17 PM EST up reply actions
do you have Netflix?
I’m watching Mad Men right now, but that’s kind of a cliche answer. Sherlock is a four-episode BBC show that is excellent, so if you’re looking for eight hours of quality television, you could start there.
love both of them already
I'll develop my own image. I'm an original man. A one and only. I just need some help.
The shows on Netflix I've been watching
Breaking Bad has seasons 1-3 up here, The Unit, Jericho, Jeremiah (Theo Huxtable says f**k a lot!), Mad Men, Nick Swardson’s Pretend Time (only 7 episodes), Little Britain, Red Dwarf, and a shitload of documentaries. Already burned through Better Off Ted, Life on Mars (US), and a lot of others.
"Human beings make life so interesting. Do you know, that in a universe so full of wonders, they have managed to invent boredom?" ~ Death
yeah, Jericho was a lot of fun
I'll develop my own image. I'm an original man. A one and only. I just need some help.
Fun fact: a lot of the show was filmed in my home province
Most of it before it caught on with sci-fi fans
"Human beings make life so interesting. Do you know, that in a universe so full of wonders, they have managed to invent boredom?" ~ Death
You could also mine the HBO back catalogue of great shows.
Deadwood, Rome, Flight of the Conchords, Generation Kill, Big Love (first three seasons or so). Basically, everything is at least very good, exlcuding John from Cincinnatti which was an abortion of a show.
Mother, did it need to be so high.
Gen. Kill is the only one of those I havent seen yet
is it really that good?
I'll develop my own image. I'm an original man. A one and only. I just need some help.
yes.
"Three thousand years of beautiful tradition,from Moses to Sandy Koufax,YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT I'M LIVING IN THE FUCKING PAST!"- Walter Sobchak
by j.q. higgins on Nov 22, 2011 1:25 PM EST up reply actions
Oustanding.
And for all those Ziggy lovers, you get an extra dose of him Generation Kill :) He plays pretty much the same character but they manage to keep all his loveable traits and discard most of the bad ones.
Mother, did it need to be so high.
i was saying the other day...
rewatching wire 2, i found ziggy to be kind of an endearing dolt instead of an annoying prick. can’t explain.
"Three thousand years of beautiful tradition,from Moses to Sandy Koufax,YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT I'M LIVING IN THE FUCKING PAST!"- Walter Sobchak
by j.q. higgins on Nov 22, 2011 1:30 PM EST up reply actions
I just watched him in S2 for the first time
and I’m definitely in the latter camp.
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Just wait...
Herc and Cheese will ascend to his “annoying as fuck” throne before long.
‘Contrairiwise,’ continued Tweedledee, ‘if it was so, it might
be; and if it were so, it would be: but as it isn’t, it ain’t. That’s
logic.’ — Through the Looking Glass, Lewis Carroll
by TerroristFistJab on Nov 22, 2011 2:47 PM EST up reply actions
Cheese takes the cake.
I hated him so much. And Method Man does a great job of portraying the character.
Mother, did it need to be so high.
Sometimes I let my mind wander...
and try to reconstruct The Wire in such a way that Cheese doesn’t exist. Needless to say, he was a shitty, shitty person on that show.
Poor Meth, people probably always thought that he was just being himself when playing that role, he did such a good job.
‘Contrairiwise,’ continued Tweedledee, ‘if it was so, it might
be; and if it were so, it would be: but as it isn’t, it ain’t. That’s
logic.’ — Through the Looking Glass, Lewis Carroll
by TerroristFistJab on Nov 22, 2011 4:20 PM EST up reply actions
I would think the same thing about Method Man
but his other performances are not always the same character. He actually has some acting talent. And the smiling sneer he gets is perfect. No one could do that better than him for the Cheese character.
Mother, did it need to be so high.
He nailed the role...
equal parts arrogant, violent, stupid, and devilish. Manipulative ass man that was stone cold. Ah I hated him. Herc was annoying, but he was just flat out stupid.
‘Contrairiwise,’ continued Tweedledee, ‘if it was so, it might
be; and if it were so, it would be: but as it isn’t, it ain’t. That’s
logic.’ — Through the Looking Glass, Lewis Carroll
by TerroristFistJab on Nov 22, 2011 4:32 PM EST up reply actions
David Simon said a lot of rappers wanted to get parts in The Wire
But Method Man was the only one to walk into a casting office and go through the process.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Nov 22, 2011 4:46 PM EST up reply actions
Haven't got to Cheese's appearance yet.
Season 3’s lost my interest. I just don’t care about the white City Councilman thinking about being mayor (and yeah, I know he’s a stand-in for MO’M) and the slick African-American councilman doesn’t hold my interest, either. And the sight of Stringer Bell and Avon Barksdale in construction hats might have been my “jumped the shark” moment.
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
This comment is so wrong.
The Wire + Lost my interest = does not compute.
"And, I'm guessing our soldiers are happy about this, that they're leaving Iraq. It is no fun being in a country where there is crumbling infrastructure and an ignorant population. But they said they are happy to come home anyway."
by WestcoastO'sFan on Nov 22, 2011 5:31 PM EST up reply actions
I thought Season 3 was supposed to be the weakest, anyway
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
You just dissed Senator Clay Davis on the day the CC kibosh came down
Lucky man. Also, the Stringer in construction hat is just a story line about money laundering and how top developers, local and state officials are all part of it. I liked it.
Mother, did it need to be so high.
Sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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it.
"Human beings make life so interesting. Do you know, that in a universe so full of wonders, they have managed to invent boredom?" ~ Death
i enjoyed his expanded role this season on "How to Make It In America"
clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...
zOMG!
I just watched the S2 episode last night where Ziggy does that thing… omgomgomg
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Nov 22, 2011 1:39 PM EST up reply actions
I really liked Generation Kill.
I don’t really know how to describe what’s good about it. It’s not a war epic in the vein of Band of Brothers, and it can’t be, because compared to WW2 there was nothing epic about the invasion of Iraq.
It’s based off of a book of the same name that was written by a Rolling Stone reporter who was embedded with a Marine unit for the invasion. It’s neither preachy anti-war nor rah-rah pro-war. It’s about the Marines who were driving through the desert, occasionally fighting. What do they do when they’re bored? What do they do when they’re tense and expecting an ambush from any direction? What do they do when charging into a fight? David Simon was in charge, so the verisimilitude you’d expect is present. It’s good.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Nov 22, 2011 1:37 PM EST up reply actions
I also burned through a lot of the MST3K offerings
And they have a lot of Doctor Who on there, but not everything, and I like watching shows from the beginning.
"Human beings make life so interesting. Do you know, that in a universe so full of wonders, they have managed to invent boredom?" ~ Death
Early Doctor Who
You’re never gonna get all of them. Some of the master tapes from the Hartnell & Troughton years are gone forever.
"If you don't like the effect, don't produce the cause."
- George Clinton
One of the missing episodes
had a bit where a sofa suddenly appears on a cricket field, and Douglas Adams, who couldn’t have been any older than in HS when it aired, used the same bit in one of his books years later.
"If you don't like the effect, don't produce the cause."
- George Clinton
I didn't know that was from Dr. Who!
That scene kicks ass.
by J(O's)elskIL on Nov 22, 2011 3:42 PM EST up reply actions
From The Dalek's Master Plan serial, I forget which episode
The TARDIS, in full Police Box mode, lands on the cricket field. Admas turned it into a sofa, but it’s basically the same idea.
"If you don't like the effect, don't produce the cause."
- George Clinton
I'm so annoyed they are making a movie.
I refuse to recognize it as legitimate.
"And, I'm guessing our soldiers are happy about this, that they're leaving Iraq. It is no fun being in a country where there is crumbling infrastructure and an ignorant population. But they said they are happy to come home anyway."
by WestcoastO'sFan on Nov 22, 2011 4:42 PM EST up reply actions
Well the 2 with Peter Cushing were so bad they were funny
But the one with the 8th Doctor was just bad.
I’ll take a “wait & see” line on this one. Eccleston, Tennat & Smith together could be good if they decide to cross time streams, or whatever it’s called when 2 or more Doctors show up together.
"If you don't like the effect, don't produce the cause."
- George Clinton
I never did watch the 8th doctor movie.
I would love to see one of those episodes like they used to do in the old series with 3 doctors. But mostly for DT as the doctor again. Although he was very very good in Hamlet, which is on Netflix.
"And, I'm guessing our soldiers are happy about this, that they're leaving Iraq. It is no fun being in a country where there is crumbling infrastructure and an ignorant population. But they said they are happy to come home anyway."
by WestcoastO'sFan on Nov 22, 2011 4:59 PM EST up reply actions
Boardwalk Empire is starting to pick up.
The Wire reruns.
Sons of motherfucking! Anarchy
"And, I'm guessing our soldiers are happy about this, that they're leaving Iraq. It is no fun being in a country where there is crumbling infrastructure and an ignorant population. But they said they are happy to come home anyway."
by WestcoastO'sFan on Nov 22, 2011 12:56 PM EST up reply actions
I don't get the premium channels
but SoA is something that I keep putting off getting into
I'll develop my own image. I'm an original man. A one and only. I just need some help.
I got into Sons two seasons too late
And I watched the first two seasons in a week – that’s how compelling it was to me.
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Nov 22, 2011 1:42 PM EST up reply actions
And the first season is the worst one.
Jax was such a whiny little bitch.
Mother, did it need to be so high.
Hey, attack the show
Don’t attack Jax
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Nov 22, 2011 1:46 PM EST up reply actions
Can we all attack D'Jax?
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 22, 2011 1:48 PM EST up reply actions
Another for Boardwalk Empire.
The Increasingly Poor Decisions of Todd Margaret starts in January. The first season was really good if you like David Cross’ style of humor (people who did not like Arrested Development need not apply). Luck with Dustin Hoffman and others debuts for HBO in January. For existing shows, Dexter is still good and Workaholics is pretty funny. You are missing out if you haven’t done Sons and Mad Men yet.
Mother, did it need to be so high.
And Netflix bringing back 10 episodes of AD?
Rumour has it each episode is focusing on one character at a time as the cast as a whole are doing their own things.
"Human beings make life so interesting. Do you know, that in a universe so full of wonders, they have managed to invent boredom?" ~ Death
I'm not sure each episode will be that segregated
but it does sound like the plan is to use one episode to update what’s happened with each character over the last 5 years. I’d be surprised if there wasn’t still a pretty strong storyline across all 10 episodes as well though.
Micheal Mann ftw
"And, I'm guessing our soldiers are happy about this, that they're leaving Iraq. It is no fun being in a country where there is crumbling infrastructure and an ignorant population. But they said they are happy to come home anyway."
by WestcoastO'sFan on Nov 22, 2011 1:16 PM EST up reply actions
I'm pretty pumped about the Redskins chances of getting Andrew Luck.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 22, 2011 5:35 PM EST up reply actions
do you really think they're going to take luck though?
that’d be basically telling peyton manning we don’t think you’re capable anymore.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 22, 2011 7:23 PM EST up reply actions
Apparently, Peyton and Colts management spoke about it
and Peyton is cool with it. I think it was something on rotoworld a couple weeks ago.
Mother, did it need to be so high.
Well
we also need the Vikings, Panthers, and Rams to not win another game. There’s also Miami, Jacksonville, and Arizona that are 3 win teams. It seems almost impossible that the Skins will have even the 2nd pick.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Vikings, Panthers, and Rams
already have two number one overall picks and a number twelve as quarterbacks. Jacksonville spent the tenth pick on one and Arizona traded a ton for Kolb. I’m only worried about Miami and Indy.
Say no to Prince Fielder in 2012.
by Knubles and Bits on Nov 22, 2011 7:31 PM EST up reply actions
Even so
if they’re not going to take him they’ll trade the pick. He’s not just going to fall to the 3rd or 5th pick.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Teams are going to have to give up much, much more
to trade into the top spots this year because of the rookie pay scale. Teams no longer have to be hesitant to trade up and pay a guy $50+ million. That makes the top spots infinitely more valuable and not many teams outside of the top ten will be willing to give up what is required to get the number one pick. Even if it is Andrew Luck.
Say no to Prince Fielder in 2012.
by Knubles and Bits on Nov 22, 2011 7:46 PM EST up reply actions
The Seahawks, Browns, and Chiefs
are the only teams outside of Miami and Washington that I can see trading up for Luck. Every other team has either a legit starter or a recent first round pick at QB. Many of those teams might like to have Luck, but aren’t going to risk giving up a ton to move up. When they already have a quality starter. Also don’t sleep on the fact that plenty of teams will be willing to settle for Landry Jones or Matt Barkley.
Say no to Prince Fielder in 2012.
by Knubles and Bits on Nov 22, 2011 7:56 PM EST up reply actions
There is a grammatical error in there that you all see.
Fuck it.
Say no to Prince Fielder in 2012.
by Knubles and Bits on Nov 22, 2011 7:57 PM EST up reply actions
ban flagged
"And, I'm guessing our soldiers are happy about this, that they're leaving Iraq. It is no fun being in a country where there is crumbling infrastructure and an ignorant population. But they said they are happy to come home anyway."
by WestcoastO'sFan on Nov 22, 2011 7:58 PM EST up reply actions
Fuck you.
Say no to Prince Fielder in 2012.
by Knubles and Bits on Nov 22, 2011 7:59 PM EST up reply actions
Same to you, dickhole
"And, I'm guessing our soldiers are happy about this, that they're leaving Iraq. It is no fun being in a country where there is crumbling infrastructure and an ignorant population. But they said they are happy to come home anyway."
by WestcoastO'sFan on Nov 22, 2011 8:00 PM EST up reply actions
So you honestly see him falling to 3rd or 4th pick?
I just don’t see it happening.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
No. Indy takes him number 1
or Miami/Washington jumps up a couple of spots to get him.
Say no to Prince Fielder in 2012.
by Knubles and Bits on Nov 22, 2011 8:01 PM EST up reply actions
Luck goes #1 no matter what.
Either Indy takes him or trades down. Thats all that can happen.
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Nov 22, 2011 8:04 PM EST up reply actions
Barkley looked pretty damn good vs. Ore last week.
Might be better off with him.
I drink more brewsters than Punky
by PBR me ASAP! on Nov 22, 2011 8:28 PM EST up reply actions
I love Barkley.
Kid’s got an arm. I’d be perfectly happy with the Skins getting him.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 22, 2011 9:19 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah me too
About three ep’s into this season, people were talking about how slow it was and I even saw rumors on trashy yahoo and entertainment pages about it being cancelled, and then it’s like they responded to that with tons of action from there on out.
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Nov 22, 2011 1:41 PM EST up reply actions
I'm pissed that AMC slashed the budget for TWD
thus driving Darabont off. But then they turn around and make a Deadwood knock-off which probably costs buku bucks to produce. Fuck you, AMC.
But this season has started to get rolling with the past two episodes, and the 2nd half of the season should be pretty sweet. You can see the ground work being laid for some long overdue events to occur.
I drink more brewsters than Punky
by PBR me ASAP! on Nov 22, 2011 8:16 PM EST up reply actions
foxy to the buccos, loewen a met...
"Three thousand years of beautiful tradition,from Moses to Sandy Koufax,YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT I'M LIVING IN THE FUCKING PAST!"- Walter Sobchak
listening to Bud Selig talk is still, as always, painful
I'll develop my own image. I'm an original man. A one and only. I just need some help.
I get to go home and eat real food tonight.
reeeeeeeeeeeeal fooooooooooooood!
"And, I'm guessing our soldiers are happy about this, that they're leaving Iraq. It is no fun being in a country where there is crumbling infrastructure and an ignorant population. But they said they are happy to come home anyway."
by WestcoastO'sFan on Nov 22, 2011 1:08 PM EST reply actions
My old roommate and I were remincising the other day about all the terrible food we had to eat freshman year
its amazing we survived
I've had to come to the uncomfortable conclusion...
… based upon observable evidence, that 18-year-old metabolism is indeed greater than 30-year-old metabolism.
by Tezcatlipoca on Nov 22, 2011 1:11 PM EST up reply actions
Kraft Dinner with ketchup is still good in small doses
"Human beings make life so interesting. Do you know, that in a universe so full of wonders, they have managed to invent boredom?" ~ Death
this.
Bacon is gross.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 22, 2011 1:28 PM EST up reply actions
You'rer testing the boundaries of the new civility dictum with statements like that, you know
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Well...
1) ’Should I be typing this?" YES…absolutely. People should know that bacon is not actually as good as it is cracked up to be.
2) I won’t hate on salvotion for eating gross food.
3) Okay yea….you got me there. As long as AMD doesn’t come in and start asking if I freakin’ own a bacon, we should be good though.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 22, 2011 1:32 PM EST up reply actions
We can all get along and hold hands, pro and anti-bacon alike.
It’s the Holliday Season, after all.
Mother, did it need to be so high.
well gosh...i GUESS
If I have to.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 22, 2011 1:39 PM EST up reply actions
I promise to wash my hands of bacon grease beforehand.
Although it would make everything smell better.
Mother, did it need to be so high.
Gah!! Stay back!
That’s what caused me to not like bacon in the first place. Sorta traumatic event I supposed, but I can’t stand the smell. Eventually I just decided that the smell wasn’t worth dealing with just to eat a piece of burnt flesh, so I stopped altogether.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 22, 2011 1:45 PM EST up reply actions
I knew it had to be something.
Liking bacon is an innate evolutionary trait to all human beings. A traumatic event is the only thing that can separate man from his basic desire for smoked and cured slices of pork belly.
Mother, did it need to be so high.
I have a similar experience, but with cinnamon
I hated cinnamon for a long, long, long time after an unfortunate incident involving baked cinnamon squash. Just the smell of it would make me queasy.
That's exactly it (I love cinnamon btw)
The smell kills me. It stemmed from spending lots of time in the hospital and not being able to eat anything. They’d serve bacon every morning (which, btw, that shit is not bacon. don’t ever trust hospital food) so the whole floor would smell of it. It was horrible.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 22, 2011 1:51 PM EST up reply actions
The best way to have bacon is somehwat limp
Not crispy and crumbly as the heathens have it.
"Human beings make life so interesting. Do you know, that in a universe so full of wonders, they have managed to invent boredom?" ~ Death
If it's good bacon, absolutely.
Crappy bacon can have it’s lack of good flavor masked by the crispiness.
Mother, did it need to be so high.
I did that with bananas and those Valentine's heart candies.
In both situations, when I was a kid, I ate so many that I puked. I still haven’t eaten heart candies since but bananas I picked up again after a 20+ year hiatus. Like everyone on earth, I’ve also had a period of being averse to Tequila after a night I drank too much. That only took 10 years to get over. Thankfully, I did get over it. There are a lot of great tequilas out there.
Mother, did it need to be so high.
thankfully (I think)
tequila is the only liquor that I’ve never had a bad experience with. Not surprisingly it’s the only liquor I’ll drink, period.
I overdosed
on Southern Comfort when I was in high school xx years ago and still can not stomach the smell of it.
The person who introduced Andrew to baseball and the O's
Funny, but I had never had the stuff until like 6 months ago.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 22, 2011 3:06 PM EST up reply actions
I still can't catch a whiff of SoCo & Lime w/o gagging a bit.
Evil.
I drink more brewsters than Punky
by PBR me ASAP! on Nov 22, 2011 8:32 PM EST up reply actions
i kinda like it.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 22, 2011 9:19 PM EST up reply actions
Drink a bottle of the shit in a few hours one night
and get back to me in the morning.
I drink more brewsters than Punky
by PBR me ASAP! on Nov 22, 2011 9:24 PM EST up reply actions
haha pass
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 22, 2011 9:34 PM EST up reply actions
Can't say I haven't been there.
Only regular SoCo. 100 proof. In less than an hour. I crawled home. Only a quarter mile, but I seriously crawled the entire way.
Say no to Prince Fielder in 2012.
by Knubles and Bits on Nov 22, 2011 10:22 PM EST up reply actions
Bailey's
The first time I ever drank, I drank like half a bottle. I didn’t get particularly drunk, but now I cannot fathom drinking something creamy and alcoholic, maybe eggnog.
Tommy hunter still sucks!
That shit is awesome.
I can drink very generous amounts of that stuff and feel great…even late! Produces some wicked hangovers though. It also looks a hell of a lot less appetizing when you see it for the second time….
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 22, 2011 9:35 PM EST up reply actions
d'oh
"Three thousand years of beautiful tradition,from Moses to Sandy Koufax,YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT I'M LIVING IN THE FUCKING PAST!"- Walter Sobchak
by j.q. higgins on Nov 22, 2011 9:44 PM EST up reply actions
It needed to be posted.
Everyone should know that creamy alcoholic beverages can make for shitty evenings.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 23, 2011 10:39 AM EST up reply actions
two of my friends split a handle of peach schnapps in college after we ran out of any other booze
neither of them will touch a peach to this day
exceedingly twisted...
logic.
"Three thousand years of beautiful tradition,from Moses to Sandy Koufax,YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT I'M LIVING IN THE FUCKING PAST!"- Walter Sobchak
by j.q. higgins on Nov 22, 2011 1:28 PM EST up reply actions
In a world first (and last) event...
I agree with twistedlogic. I understand the bacon meme and all, but I’m actually not really much of a fan. I’ll eat bacon if it’s presented in a meal, but I certainly don’t go out of my way to acquire it. I never order or purchase it.
by Tezcatlipoca on Nov 22, 2011 1:31 PM EST up reply actions
this.
"Three thousand years of beautiful tradition,from Moses to Sandy Koufax,YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT I'M LIVING IN THE FUCKING PAST!"- Walter Sobchak
by j.q. higgins on Nov 22, 2011 1:18 PM EST up reply actions
The more I think about it, the more I hate the draft tax.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Nov 22, 2011 1:23 PM EST up reply actions
I hate the additional wild card
I don’t hate the idea of an extra team necessarily, but a one game playoff bugs me.
+1 on this.
The playoffs are a crapshoot anyways though so why not.
by J(O's)elskIL on Nov 22, 2011 1:27 PM EST up reply actions
Agreed.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 22, 2011 1:28 PM EST up reply actions
It'll be nice if the extra wild card is ever more than the "make sure NYY and BOS are both in the playoffs" spot
I don’t know when that will happen.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Nov 22, 2011 1:38 PM EST up reply actions
Agreed
They might as well play full-contact Rock, Paper, Scissors
"Work fast. Throw strikes. Change speeds." Ray Miller
by Zeke McGeek on Nov 22, 2011 2:10 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I don't like the draft tax either.
Terrible teams are going to get penalized for drafting super talents. I don’t get it. Was this a compromise with NYY and BOS for the higher luxury tax?
Mother, did it need to be so high.
That doesn't really say how its going to work
Is it total overall spending? Tax on going overslot on a pick-by-pick basis?
Pick-by-pick
there will be five bands of penalties, starting with a 75 percent tax on the amount 0-5 percent over a specified threshold for each team next year, based on its selection spot.
by J(O's)elskIL on Nov 22, 2011 1:31 PM EST up reply actions
It just seems like...
… it’s really going to encourage a lot of draftees to play hardball. What I mean is, Player X will be drafted by Team Y, who he doesn’t particularly care about. He’ll demand a contract that would get hit with a draft tax. He’ll then go to school for another year and get drafted by a team who doesn’t care about luxury taxes (AHEM).
by Tezcatlipoca on Nov 22, 2011 1:34 PM EST up reply actions
Only JuCo players can come out after a year of college.
Anybody who goes to a 4-year off the bat has to wait until their junior year. I don’t think that’s changed.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Nov 22, 2011 1:42 PM EST up reply actions
Interesting
I wonder if this will gradually lead to an expansion of college baseball until the draft system more closely resembles the NFL. A lot more high school players who could have previously signed overslot deals may now be going to college instead to improve their draft slot.
kba, the consensus seems to be that MLB is going to lose a lot of athletes.
Basically everybody who gets signed away from a football scholarship – Bubba Starling and the like – will now be taking the scholarship and going to play at Nebraska or Oregon or LSU or wherever.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Nov 22, 2011 1:40 PM EST up reply actions
Damn, I didn't think of that
How noticeable do you think the difference will be?
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Nov 22, 2011 1:45 PM EST up reply actions
No idea.
The football thing is probably a smaller number than players who will just say screw it and go to college. It depends on whether the HS draftees/their parents/agents are willing to take 10% over whatever slot guideline or not.
However, one thing that will also be gone is the thought of a much, much greater payday in three years. Currently, later first round players can think, well, I could be a top talent, but how much more money could they potentially get for moving up now? So I don’t know how it will shake out except that there is less money to go to players and the outside experts seem to think this will negatively affect athletes choosing to play baseball.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Nov 22, 2011 1:54 PM EST up reply actions
I'm not sure how this will really affect two sport athletes.
As far as I understand, if a prep athlete is choosing between MLB and college, they can get a payday right now or go to college to play football for a few more years, hope their talent and health sustains, and then hope for an NFL deal. There is a lot of risk there. If I were a rational actor and felt 50/50 about baseball and football, the guaranteed money would be persuasive and I would probably choose baseball. If I were in college, then I would choose whatever sport gave me the highest payday. I don’t hear about too many college players who are so good at both sports that both an NFL and MLB team are willing to toss out huge contracts on draft day to the same guy. I can’t figure out if the argument about two sport athletes will really make any difference in real life or if its just theoretical.
Mother, did it need to be so high.
I think it means teams with a higher pick will have a higher tax threshold.
But the tax applies to spending across the whole draft. That’s what the national baseball writers (e.g. Keith Law) have been hammering on. Law is not a fan of the draft tax.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Nov 22, 2011 1:39 PM EST up reply actions
It does look terrible at first glance but I have to see at least one signing deadline
before I form a firm opinin.
by J(O's)elskIL on Nov 22, 2011 1:30 PM EST up reply actions
One positive is moving up the draft signing deadline to mid-July.
More time to get players into the system before the season ends.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Nov 22, 2011 1:41 PM EST up reply actions
Roch Kubatko made an offhand comment about it in this post
http://www.masnsports.com/school_of_roch/2011/11/still-waiting-on-a-backup-catcher.html
He says the new signing deadline is “July 12-18, flexible depending on when the All-Star Game is played”
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Nov 22, 2011 3:56 PM EST up reply actions
The draft tax is a terrible terrible idea
Good job baseball. Destroy your ability to get the top flight domestic talents into your ranks, because you’ve arbitrarily set a dollar value on them that is likely going to be significantly lower than what they’re actually worth. Goodbye smart teams grabbing an overslot guy who fell into the lower rounds because of potential issues and offering them a contract they’ll actually sign.
scottboras.com tweets that drafted players will no longer be able to sign major league contracts.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Nov 22, 2011 1:25 PM EST reply actions
If that is true than the teams just picked up a lot of power.
by J(O's)elskIL on Nov 22, 2011 1:27 PM EST up reply actions
power over college players that aren't athletic enough to play football or basketball
I'll develop my own image. I'm an original man. A one and only. I just need some help.
Yikes.
Can’t say I’m that thrilled about this list.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 22, 2011 1:35 PM EST up reply actions
I hope that the O's keep Machado and Schoop at the same level until MLB duty calls.
Learning to play next to each other all through the minors would be greatly beneficial.
by Tezcatlipoca on Nov 22, 2011 1:38 PM EST up reply actions
After Schoop, our top prospects are either
1) a ceiling of a “slightly above average” offensive 1B
2) ceiling of a durable innings-eater
3) and a bunch of guys with talent and no skills.
Fantastic.
Mother, did it need to be so high.
lol....I laughed
And then I cried.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 22, 2011 1:41 PM EST up reply actions
I was hoping I could avoid addressing that issue.
It makes me sad.
It makes me clinically depressed when I then check out Kansas City or Tampa Bay.
by Tezcatlipoca on Nov 22, 2011 1:44 PM EST up reply actions
Kind of a strange list
Maybe I am higher on others, but I thought the following guys were strangely placed:
Tyler Townsend
Xavier Avery
Trent Mummey
Joe Mahoney
Mychal Givens
Townsend and Mummey should be on a top 15 IMO, but I think there are other prospects with better futures!
If you look at those UZR ratings or whatever
This is probably a forbidden topic...
but we just randomly received a new Verizon iPhone 4s at my office. Now, we are a market research company so we get stuff all the time for groups. However, we don’t have any phone groups happening at the moment and the only one we even have heard about just requested a bid today.
Either the owner of the company bought a new iPhone and had it shipped here or Dave is getting an early xmas gift. I might just open it up and ask Siri who her master is. Maybe she’ll know.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
Ask it who's the boss.
I want to know if it says Tony Danza.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Nov 22, 2011 2:20 PM EST up reply actions
I guess that's also an acceptable answer.
Well, acceptable unless you’re daveh.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Nov 22, 2011 2:48 PM EST up reply actions
accept!
eat the heat!
"Three thousand years of beautiful tradition,from Moses to Sandy Koufax,YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT I'M LIVING IN THE FUCKING PAST!"- Walter Sobchak
by j.q. higgins on Nov 22, 2011 3:13 PM EST up reply actions
haha yea....twice actually.
I didn’t realize I had already posted it once.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 22, 2011 3:18 PM EST up reply actions
you bums
I posted that twice the other day!
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 22, 2011 5:37 PM EST up reply actions
also:
“ask my wife if she is FUCKING jim mcpherson!”
“i don’t want to!!”
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 22, 2011 5:37 PM EST up reply actions
Tell my husband he wishes it was JUST Jim Mcpherson!
Say no to Prince Fielder in 2012.
by Knubles and Bits on Nov 22, 2011 5:40 PM EST up reply actions
How about "who owns you"
It should know the name of its owner.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
So, a couple years ago, my friend has a new car with voice-activated GPS.
I decided to play with said GPS.
First, I tell it, “Directions to nearest crack house.” The GPS points me to a Sleep Inn.
Second, I tell it, “Directions to nearest whore house.” The GPS points me to the county government complex.
Win.
by Tezcatlipoca on Nov 22, 2011 2:42 PM EST up reply actions
Ryan Braun over Matt Kemp.
I can’t wait for the flame wars over this one. It pays to be on a team with good players.
Mother, did it need to be so high.
Another silly choice
8.7 WAR vs 7.8 WAR.
That’s a simplistic look at it too, but seriously. Kemp was much better than Braun.
clearly...
the voters were put off by kemp’s outrageous BABIP.
"Three thousand years of beautiful tradition,from Moses to Sandy Koufax,YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT I'M LIVING IN THE FUCKING PAST!"- Walter Sobchak
by j.q. higgins on Nov 22, 2011 2:33 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
After the Verlander Win I am not surprised
I feel like sabermetric statistics are being put in the wrong hands. The writers are morons.
"Grow nothing, buy the 'Pen" (Wieters Weiners)
So just because Braun’s team goes to the playoffs he wins? Give me a break.
"Grow nothing, buy the 'Pen" (Wieters Weiners)
Pretty much.
I think there are some writers who believe value is defined by a thought experiment of “what would happen if I removed player X from the team?” If they believe that a playoff team would not have made the playoffs without player X, then they assign some random value to that fact, usually a large amount of value. It obviously is sufficient to make up for the fact that Kemp out-played Braun in most measurable categories.
Mother, did it need to be so high.
Good explanation
Personally I am torn. Obviously being an O’s fan I hate seeing good players on bad teams not get their due. But on the other hand I wouldn’t want to see Braun get penalized because he plays on the same team as other players who excelled.
At least they didn’t give it to a pitcher.
"Grow nothing, buy the 'Pen" (Wieters Weiners)
I don't think you need to penalize Braun for being on a good team.
He just shouldn’t benefit from it. Baseball is probably the easiest sport to isolate individual performances for evaluation. We know that there are certain stats that are team dependent and certain stats that better measure individual performance. It would seem most logical to me to evaluate a player based on those skills we best know can be attributed to that player. The other stuff seems like noise to me.
Mother, did it need to be so high.
I disagree with this statement
Baseball is probably the easiest sport to isolate individual performances for evaluation.
Sabermetrics try to break down performance in different situations and when a homer is “worth more” in some situations than others. To your statement I think that it is very difficult to analyze who performed better because no two situations are alike. There are always a large amount of variables.
I am glad it isn’t my job to try and vote. That said, I would have went with Kemp.
"Grow nothing, buy the 'Pen" (Wieters Weiners)
Pitchers for sure can be isolated.
but for hitting I think it is extremely difficult. I think basketball stats are very reliable because conditions are so controlled so I would give that sport the edge for evaluation purposes.
"Grow nothing, buy the 'Pen" (Wieters Weiners)
Still far easier than in other sports
how do you isolate the performance of a running back from that of the offensive line? Its even harder in sports where there aren’t discrete plays. How do you can you analyze the performance of a central midfielder in soccer, except in relation to the other 21 guys on the field?
Yea, it would be insane.
Even to validate the running back and QB point, you always here “he is a system guy.”
Soccer is easy…Messi>everyone else.
"Grow nothing, buy the 'Pen" (Wieters Weiners)
People still try, and have some success
baseball just has far more individual data points than any other sport, which makes statistical analysis easier and more useful.
It doesn't sound like you disagree.
I think we agree that baseball is easier than any other professional team sport to isolate individual performance despite the fact that there are a number of variables that make true individual evaluation impossible.
Mother, did it need to be so high.
I know my statements aren't articulated well
I think pitching is pretty easy (except for the AL East) to isolate but I think hitting is far more difficult. I personally think basketball is the easiest.
"Grow nothing, buy the 'Pen" (Wieters Weiners)
Kemp may hve had the better year, but there should be no doubt as to who
the superior player is.
by J(O's)elskIL on Nov 22, 2011 3:53 PM EST up reply actions
Do you have something to back that up?
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 22, 2011 3:54 PM EST up reply actions
Looking at Career Statistics
Braun > Kemp and I don’t know that it’s all that close.
fWAR:
Braun: 25.2 (5 years) yearly WAR between 3.1-7.8 (consistent)
Kemp: 19.2 (6 years) yearly WAR between 0.4-8.7 (inconsistent)
OPS+:
Braun: 145
Kemp: 125
K/BB:
Braun: 2.31
Kemp: 2.96
I got more if you want
by J(O's)elskIL on Nov 22, 2011 4:03 PM EST up reply actions
I would agree that Braun has had a better, more consistent career to date.
But, since the MVP is given every year, I assume the award should be given to who performed best in that year (otherwise, Pujols would probably be taking home the award with regularity). In 2011, Kemp performed better than Braun according to most measures.
Mother, did it need to be so high.
Definitely. KEmp should be the MVP.
I’m just a Braun fanboy.
by J(O's)elskIL on Nov 22, 2011 4:09 PM EST up reply actions
I love the fangraphs article that said Braun should win because the Brewers wouldn't have won the division without him.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 22, 2011 4:11 PM EST up reply actions
So you're going to ignore Kemp's rapidly increasing yearly WAR to dub him as "inconsistent?"
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 22, 2011 4:09 PM EST up reply actions
I'd like to see him keep it up before I put him in Braun's class.
And BTW, you can’t just throw out 2010 in this discussion.
by J(O's)elskIL on Nov 22, 2011 4:11 PM EST up reply actions
Right, he's outclassed Braun in WAR by a pretty huge margin.
2010 or no 2010.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 22, 2011 4:12 PM EST up reply actions
You're ignoring the other 2.5 outstanding seasons he put up.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 22, 2011 4:14 PM EST up reply actions
What other 2.5 "outstanding seasons"?
The one where he posted 3.5 WAR or the one where he posted 1.8 WAR (over 98 games (call it 3.5 again))?
by J(O's)elskIL on Nov 22, 2011 4:16 PM EST up reply actions
Well...the one where he posted 5.2 WAR doesn't hurt......
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 22, 2011 4:17 PM EST up reply actions
No it does not.
So that’s 1 season. Give me another 1.5
by J(O's)elskIL on Nov 22, 2011 4:18 PM EST up reply actions
So 3.5 WAR isn't outstanding?
Braun was right around there in two of his amazingly consistent seasons, so I’m not really sure where you’re going with this.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 22, 2011 4:21 PM EST up reply actions
No, 3.5 WAR is not outstanding.
This year there were 50 players over 4 WAR.
Braun’s only year under 4 WAR was his partial rookie season.
My point is Kemp is not (yet) a consistently great player like Braun IMO.
by J(O's)elskIL on Nov 22, 2011 4:26 PM EST up reply actions
In '08 he was tied for 56th in WAR among hitters.
by J(O's)elskIL on Nov 22, 2011 4:30 PM EST up reply actions
And how many players are there in the MLB?
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 22, 2011 4:30 PM EST up reply actions
This year there were 145 qualified batters
in ’08 there were 147
Overall:
’11 – 936
’08 – 985
by J(O's)elskIL on Nov 22, 2011 4:32 PM EST up reply actions
And how many players are there in the MLB?
This year there were 50 players over 4 WAR.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 22, 2011 4:30 PM EST up reply actions
In 2008, Kemp was right about average
for qualified batters in the National League.
Mother, did it need to be so high.
Right....due to his "shitty" fielding.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 22, 2011 4:37 PM EST up reply actions
According to UZR he was only -2.1 in '08
That’s negligible. He had a 111 WRC+ which is good but not great by any standard .
by J(O's)elskIL on Nov 22, 2011 4:40 PM EST up reply actions
I'm not so sure about that.
He was slightly below average in wOBA, wRC+, and ISO, average in OBP. 2008 does not appear to be an oustanding year for Kemp.
Mother, did it need to be so high.
I should qualify
By “below average” I mean relative to qualified hitters in the NL for 2008.
Mother, did it need to be so high.
His numbers there were similar to those of Jose Reyes who was in the top 10 for WAR.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 22, 2011 4:46 PM EST up reply actions
Similar in what way?
Reyes beat Kemp in every measurable offensive category except RBIs and HRs. And did so while sporting a .317 BABIP vs. .361 for Kemp.
Mother, did it need to be so high.
Kemp has a naturally high BABIP
He just hits the ball REALLY hard so it falls more often.
by J(O's)elskIL on Nov 22, 2011 5:02 PM EST up reply actions
I have thought about that
but have never seen data showing speed of the ball off the bat and I’m not really sure where to find that data. I know that BABIP is more consistent year-to-year with batters than pitchers but it also takes multiple seasons of data to figure if high BABIP is a skill or not. Kemp has had BABIP that fluctuates between .295 (2010) and .380 (2011) with numbers in between. Because of the wide fluctuation in BABIP on a yearly basis, not just with Kemp but with all other players included, it is difficult to conclude that high BABIP is mostly skill or mostly luck. It is a frustrating stat in that way, for sure.
Mother, did it need to be so high.
His BABIP in 2010 is an outlier
His other BABIPs:
.411 (partial sesason)
.361
.345
.380 (2011)
This seems to show a consistently very high BABIP
by J(O's)elskIL on Nov 22, 2011 5:31 PM EST up reply actions
lol...you beat me by a minute.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 22, 2011 5:32 PM EST up reply actions
I love that one year isn't enough to say something is good, yet it's always enough to say something is bad.
Kemp’s BABIPs (outside of that one shitty year) have been .361, .345, .380, and like .400+ in his first season (which was partial). Those are consistently high.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 22, 2011 5:32 PM EST up reply actions
I'm not saying something is good or bad
or that Kemp is lucky or unlucky. Just that the more information we have, the more we can know if Kemp has a skill for having more balls drop in for hits. If you look at career BABIP leaders, it is not all power hitters or slap hitters. It’s a mix of all types of players. Jeter, for instance, ranks above Kemp in career BABIP (notorious “Jeter’d” hits). I have no clue if Jeter does that shit on purpose or what.
Mother, did it need to be so high.
Kemp has always had ridiculously high BABIP
That stat sort of annoys me though.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 22, 2011 5:04 PM EST up reply actions
WAR factors in a lot more than offense.
You can’t use WAR to directly draw conclusions about a player’s offensive talent. You have to look at its components. Reyes and Kemp play different positions, have different skillsets, etc.
I don’t think there’s any way to look at his batting numbers overall and say that he was “outstanding” before this year. Good, sure, and even very good in ’07 and ’09. But his offense has definitely been inconsistent:
wRC+: 89, 131, 111, 127, 101, 171
There’s some up-and-down there, so either he’s not consistently reaching his true talent level, or that level is a wRC+ of 115-120 and he’s just oscillating around that. This year makes the latter seem pretty unlikely.
"Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs." -- Earl Weaver
WAR Comparison
Braun’s 5 years: 1.5, 2.0, 5.9, 4.7, 7.7
Kemp’s 6 years: -0.6, 1.3, 3.0, 5.7, 2.3, 10.0
um yea...those numbers are kinda off
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 22, 2011 4:22 PM EST up reply actions
Kemp definitely didn't have 10 WAR this year.
I also don’t think Braun ever hit 5.9…his other “good” season was like 4.9 or something.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 22, 2011 4:28 PM EST up reply actions
It's easier if we distinguish WAR usage
rWAR = Baseball Ref
fWAR = Fangraphs.
makes it simple
Mother, did it need to be so high.
It's no problem.
Just makes it easier for everyone to be on the same page and know which site the numbers are coming from since B-R and FG have different WAR formulas.
Mother, did it need to be so high.
I was nieve enough
to think WAR was a standard formula. I have so much to learn. Sad to admit I’m pretty “old school” when it comes to statistics. Thanks again.
Nothing sad about it.
Old school stats are legit. Newer stats tend to be more accurate to actual contribution and are better for projection.
by J(O's)elskIL on Nov 22, 2011 5:08 PM EST up reply actions
And new stats are just finding better ways
to interpret old stats. The new way of thinking just tends to give less credence to stats that are team dependent, like RBIs and Wins. Hits, Ks, BBs, HRs, SBs, those are still all considered. You will be at home with new stats in no time.
Mother, did it need to be so high.
did not know.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 22, 2011 5:04 PM EST up reply actions
They're more or less equal
Braun’s had one more good season, because Kemp had that crazy terrible year in 2010.
Agree.
I almost felt bad for Kemp that year. It was Rhianna’s fault I think.
"Grow nothing, buy the 'Pen" (Wieters Weiners)
I think consistency is part of being a great player
and I think Braun is a truly great player.
by J(O's)elskIL on Nov 22, 2011 4:06 PM EST up reply actions
I'm going to the Caps game tomorrow after work, so I have to move things up a bit.
Gonna make cranberry sauce tonight. Considering making the sweet potato casserole too, since it can keep in the fridge for several days anyways.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 22, 2011 3:08 PM EST up reply actions
just parbake the casserole and it'll be fine
lower the temp and cook it like 75% of the way through so its set, finish on thursday
Doesn't need to bake.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 22, 2011 3:13 PM EST up reply actions
duh.
;-)
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 22, 2011 3:14 PM EST up reply actions
ok, i should have said cooked all the way through?
technically i don’t think its a casserole if its not cooked after being assembled
Well yea.
It’s “cooked” in the oven after. The cooked potatoes keep in the fridge pretty well though.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 22, 2011 3:23 PM EST up reply actions
sweet potato casserole sounds tasty.
"Three thousand years of beautiful tradition,from Moses to Sandy Koufax,YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT I'M LIVING IN THE FUCKING PAST!"- Walter Sobchak
by j.q. higgins on Nov 22, 2011 3:11 PM EST up reply actions
Jake Plummer is annoyed Tebow loves Jesus.
It’s okay to hate on that, but we all have like Michael Vick because he’s a changed person. Blah.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
What's a Jesus?
"Human beings make life so interesting. Do you know, that in a universe so full of wonders, they have managed to invent boredom?" ~ Death
That's pretty good stuff.
“consumer society was laid down by the late Steve Jobs coming down the mountain with two tablets, iPad 1 and iPad 2.”
So he’s really iMoses?
Mother, did it need to be so high.
Jesus was jewish you know.
He’s mentioned in parts of the Talmud that aren’t canonized.
by J(O's)elskIL on Nov 22, 2011 4:17 PM EST up reply actions
I do know that Jesus was Jewish.
I also know that Jesus was not the one who came down the mountain with tablets :)
Mother, did it need to be so high.
iGayMarriage?
I just sync my iJesus with my iMoses
by Tezcatlipoca on Nov 22, 2011 4:45 PM EST up reply actions
That would also be necrophilia since Moses died more than
a thousand years before Jesus lived.
by J(O's)elskIL on Nov 22, 2011 4:46 PM EST up reply actions
Necrophilia's okay...
… just as long as there’s no gay marriage.
#RepublicanParty2012
(There may be a bit of sarcasm in this post…)
by Tezcatlipoca on Nov 22, 2011 5:14 PM EST up reply actions
Sit back and crack open a cold one.........
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 22, 2011 5:16 PM EST up reply actions
Who's arguing?
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 22, 2011 3:37 PM EST up reply actions
So I'm fairly certain my macbook is failing.
It’s not holding charge and freezes up constantly. Ugh. I have apple care but it’s still a hassle.
Contrary to popular belief, I am not Jewish.
I bought a new battery off ebay for my MBP
$30 bucks, it has worked like a charm.
"Grow nothing, buy the 'Pen" (Wieters Weiners)
New batteries are birdland though.
It’s always nice when you get that nice like 7 hour charge the first time you use it…compared to like 20 mins when the battery is failing. Kinda unexpected/awesome all at the same time.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 22, 2011 4:32 PM EST up reply actions
Yea, it took a llong time for mine to totally fail.
Now if only I could get it to stop heating up and burning my legs I would be set.
"Grow nothing, buy the 'Pen" (Wieters Weiners)
Scary that people find roommates and such from the same website they post this stuff...
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
half those connections are made up
but they are definitely hilarious.
"Grow nothing, buy the 'Pen" (Wieters Weiners)
Oh I'm sure.
It’s awesome though.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 22, 2011 3:59 PM EST up reply actions
Ohhh guys guess what
I’ve made an executive decision to say fuck college, I’m moving to Denmark. Details will follow.
Contrary to popular belief, I am not Jewish.
methinks birdman says truthful things
"And, I'm guessing our soldiers are happy about this, that they're leaving Iraq. It is no fun being in a country where there is crumbling infrastructure and an ignorant population. But they said they are happy to come home anyway."
by WestcoastO'sFan on Nov 22, 2011 5:04 PM EST up reply actions
Actually, it's pending 2012 election results
It’s my escape route. It was Australia but then I read an article about how Australia is hell now because of global warming so…. not anymore. But Denmark seemed like a nice fit.
I’m also looking into schools in Denmark, so that doesn’t necessarily mean I won’t go to college.
Contrary to popular belief, I am not Jewish.
I might consider Norway over Denmark, but either works.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 22, 2011 5:05 PM EST up reply actions
It was Norway
But I was kinda freaked out about the whole shooting spree incident, although I realize that Norway’s human rights record is basically impeccable. Also: Denmark is slightly warmer than Norway.
Contrary to popular belief, I am not Jewish.
well yea
But I think Norway was slightly more picturesque than Denmark. Dunno how to describe it really, but I liked Norway more. It is colder though.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 22, 2011 5:08 PM EST up reply actions
Both countries are attractive options, certainly
Both have really good human rights records and are forward thinking countries.
Contrary to popular belief, I am not Jewish.
If you're concerned about global warming...
Why are you picking the warmer of Denmark and Norway, as well as the one that’s completely surrounded by water?
I’m intrigued by New Zealand as my bug-out country.
by Tezcatlipoca on Nov 22, 2011 5:17 PM EST up reply actions
Australia is a HUGE place.
There are hot climates and cool climates. There’s even rain forest there. I don’t know how you can rule out all of Australia based on something you read about global warming affecting it in some undefined way.
Mother, did it need to be so high.
I'm confused.
You are moving because of the government?
"And, I'm guessing our soldiers are happy about this, that they're leaving Iraq. It is no fun being in a country where there is crumbling infrastructure and an ignorant population. But they said they are happy to come home anyway."
by WestcoastO'sFan on Nov 22, 2011 5:06 PM EST up reply actions
Remember all of those people that said they were gonna move to Canada when Bush beat Gore all those years back?
Yea…they’re all still here.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 22, 2011 5:07 PM EST up reply actions
There's a lot of truth to that.
And I know that’s what this sounds like. But as I said below, it’s really not all about the government because that’s a pretty superficial reason to pack up and leave (by itself). I want to get away from America, maybe not permanently, but at least for an extended period of time.
Contrary to popular belief, I am not Jewish.
Wherever you go, there you are.
I thought there were a great many things wrong with various environments and people I had connections with. Then I realized I kept having the same problems no matter where I went. It was me. I was the problem. Not saying that’s your case, just throwing it out there.
Mother, did it need to be so high.
I think that living overseas can be a great experience.
I would strongly suggest:
1) Finish your college degree. You’re not going to get anywhere in Europe as an American without a degree. You need to be employable.
2) Spend a year teaching English in another country. It’s a huge industry in East Asia, but it’s also possible to do in places like Spain and Russia, if you prefer Europe.
3) While you’re overseas teaching, use that time to make connections. Go to consulate events. Meet businesspeople. You might be able to parlay a year of relatively easy work into a career which will include worldwide travel.
I know that Titov has extensive experience overseas, as do I. If you’re serious about wanting to live overseas, I’d be happy to talk with you about my experiences (and I’m certainly not going to judge).
by Tezcatlipoca on Nov 22, 2011 5:20 PM EST up reply actions
That depends on what you wanna do though
If you want a legit job, sure, finish your degree. If you don’t then….save your money!
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 22, 2011 5:21 PM EST up reply actions
18 is not the age to decide if you want a legit job. At least not for me.
Better just to get the degree and then have the option of floating around for a while.
Mother, did it need to be so high.
Not to mention, college is just a flat out great experience to have.
I’m not idealizing it or anything. I had a lot of issues in college. I nearly failed out before getting my act together. I had a hard time making lasting friendships. I was engaged and that ended and devastated me for a long time.
But you’ll learn as much about yourself in college as you will your chosen area of study. I wouldn’t trade my experience, as rough as it was sometimes and as much as I regret some of the things I did and didn’t do, for anything.
by Tezcatlipoca on Nov 22, 2011 5:24 PM EST up reply actions
I decided well before 18 I wanted a legit job.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 22, 2011 5:25 PM EST up reply actions
Did you really know what that means, though?
At 18, I had no idea. I thought I wanted a legit job since I was a kid. It was ingrained in me. But I didn’t know what a legit job entailed or if I would even like it.
Mother, did it need to be so high.
Yep. I knew exactly what degree I wanted to get and eventually what I wanted to do with it.
I’m getting there, although government is definitely going to decide whether or not I reach that goal. I got the degree though and I’m moving closer towards doing what I actually want to do work-wise.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 22, 2011 5:33 PM EST up reply actions
Gotta hand it to my dad, really.
Otherwise I wouldn’t be doing shit right now. I used to be pretty lazy.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 22, 2011 5:41 PM EST up reply actions
The Bush Administration
I finished up my degree, then moved overseas. I came back in time to vote in the 2008 primaries / election.
by Tezcatlipoca on Nov 22, 2011 5:15 PM EST up reply actions
We would have been okay with it if they did.
Well, not Janeane Garofalo. Our economy seems to be weathering the recessive storms better than most countries it seems though. Weird seeing our dollar at par or more with the USD. One of the reasons the Occupy movement is nowhere near as big as down there is that we don’t have much to complain about right now. No huge bailouts, we already had our healthcare program in place (including longass waiting times, but everyone waits), and our Prime Minister is bland as shit. Dude has the personality of a rice cake, so he doesn’t stir much controversy, except for some methods that seem to evoke Karl Rove when dealing with people who don’t see things the same way he does.
"Human beings make life so interesting. Do you know, that in a universe so full of wonders, they have managed to invent boredom?" ~ Death
She doesn't want Obama taking her guns.
/heavy, heavy sarcasm
by J(O's)elskIL on Nov 22, 2011 5:07 PM EST up reply actions
Potentially
Note: this plan is still a work in progress. I’m a Democrat and I’m scared shitless. So… yeah, it is potentially because of the government. But I also kind of hate America. I mean it’s a great country and all, but it would be nice to go to a place like Copenhagen where if you drop your wallet it will almost certainly be returned with all the money still inside.
Contrary to popular belief, I am not Jewish.
I think this might not be the best conversation to be having the day that
Stacey asked everyone to tone it down a little.
by J(O's)elskIL on Nov 22, 2011 5:11 PM EST up reply actions
Hate?
I’m no hawk of a patriot, but how could you hate America? Because people steal? People steal everywhere, I bet even people in Denmark steal. Thievery and violence is part of humanity, you can’t escape that.
"And, I'm guessing our soldiers are happy about this, that they're leaving Iraq. It is no fun being in a country where there is crumbling infrastructure and an ignorant population. But they said they are happy to come home anyway."
by WestcoastO'sFan on Nov 22, 2011 5:12 PM EST up reply actions
Copenhagen has a vastly (right word? wrong word?) increasing number of pick pockets.
All of Europe is gonna be bankrupt soon anyways, so I’m not sure it really matters. I’d probably learn mandarin if I were you.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 22, 2011 5:14 PM EST up reply actions
Also, I am a hawk of a patriot.
I’m not one of those “I’m from America so I’m better than you” and all that shit, but I live here and damned if I’m not going to support her!
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 22, 2011 5:15 PM EST up reply actions
That was just an example
But um the guy above was right… maybe we should stop this right now before it gets out of hand. In any case, there was a study done a while back where these researchers dropped wallets full of money in the street in various major cities. Copenhagen was the only place where every single wallet was returned with all the money inside.
Again… maybe we shouldn’t start some debate.
Contrary to popular belief, I am not Jewish.
I would like to see more about that study.
Keep in mind where they dropped the wallets as compared to where you would be living. I have no idea what your financial situation is, but you will have to basically go from 100% to about 25% dependent. Are you a citizen of Denmark? Can you become a citizen of Denmark? I assume, because I am an Italian citizen, that you have to be one to get free schooling. That all factors into where you live and therefore what type of people you surround yourself with.
Also this seems to be a very peaceful discussion , an exchange of ideas, no problems.
"And, I'm guessing our soldiers are happy about this, that they're leaving Iraq. It is no fun being in a country where there is crumbling infrastructure and an ignorant population. But they said they are happy to come home anyway."
by WestcoastO'sFan on Nov 22, 2011 5:19 PM EST up reply actions
If you're a Dem, you have nothing to fear out of the 2012 POTUS election
And if you hate America, I’d argue you’re not a Democrat.
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
"Hate" was the wrong word
Maybe “sick of it” is better. And that’s why time away will, hopefully, give me a more positive outlook if/when I return.
Contrary to popular belief, I am not Jewish.
I get how the original comment could be taken the wrong way.
Contrary to popular belief, I am not Jewish.
CAIN! CAIN! CAIN!
Sorry.
"And, I'm guessing our soldiers are happy about this, that they're leaving Iraq. It is no fun being in a country where there is crumbling infrastructure and an ignorant population. But they said they are happy to come home anyway."
by WestcoastO'sFan on Nov 22, 2011 6:15 PM EST up reply actions
yeah, i think obama is in trouble... it's going to be a close election if the economy doesn't vastly improve.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
We're agreeing all over the place these days!
Although if the GOP really nominates one of these whackos like Cain or Perry then I’ll be much less worried.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
we agree all the time
only the disagreements grab the headlines.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
I just can't see
any of these people with these views winning over the majority of Americas. But I guess we’ll see.
The state of economy = votes thing is so confusing to me.
I’ve never understood how much a president’s actions can really effect the economy. I feel like measuring a president’s quality on economy is like saying the best pitcher is the one with the most wins or the best hitter has the most RBIs.
Mother, did it need to be so high.
If you can't judge a pitcher by wins and loses...
… how the hell can you?!?!
by Tezcatlipoca on Nov 22, 2011 7:40 PM EST up reply actions
oh shit
"And, I'm guessing our soldiers are happy about this, that they're leaving Iraq. It is no fun being in a country where there is crumbling infrastructure and an ignorant population. But they said they are happy to come home anyway."
by WestcoastO'sFan on Nov 22, 2011 7:41 PM EST up reply actions
Oh, it's on now.
Everyone knows that the best pitchers have the best facial hair.
Mother, did it need to be so high.
fuck you
"And, I'm guessing our soldiers are happy about this, that they're leaving Iraq. It is no fun being in a country where there is crumbling infrastructure and an ignorant population. But they said they are happy to come home anyway."
by WestcoastO'sFan on Nov 22, 2011 7:43 PM EST up reply actions
I can't speak for Westie
but birdman’s mom would kiss any mouth.
Say no to Prince Fielder in 2012.
by Knubles and Bits on Nov 22, 2011 7:47 PM EST up reply actions
oh snap!
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 22, 2011 9:11 PM EST up reply actions
oh hells yeah
your mom too!
"And, I'm guessing our soldiers are happy about this, that they're leaving Iraq. It is no fun being in a country where there is crumbling infrastructure and an ignorant population. But they said they are happy to come home anyway."
by WestcoastO'sFan on Nov 22, 2011 7:48 PM EST up reply actions
Yup
but that’s the way it is. If things are shitty, must be his fault.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
That's really too bad.
We might as well elect a new president based on the amount of rain fall in a given year.
Mother, did it need to be so high.
money affects people more than rain
it’s not totally random.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
Unless you're a farmer
and then they are directly proportional.
Say no to Prince Fielder in 2012.
by Knubles and Bits on Nov 22, 2011 7:48 PM EST up reply actions
It is random when you attribute the amount of money in your pocket to a person who has nearly no control over that factor.
Mother, did it need to be so high.
sure but
it’s not random that voters feel differently about money versus rain.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
I think maybe I wasn't clear.
The randomness I’m talking about is choosing President X over incumbent President Y because President Y was president when the economy was in the tank. If people vote for President X because the economy is bad, that, to me, seems about as random a reason to choose a president as it would be to choose it based on rain measurement. I understand that a president has some control over monetary and other regulatory policies that affect the economy (eventually) so it’s not a great comparison but I think you get the point.
Mother, did it need to be so high.
sure, i think we're talking past each other
because we’re making separate points. 1) the president has very limited control over the economy therefore it doesn’t make sense to hold the president responsible. you might as well pick rainfall. i agree. 2) it doesn’t make sense, but that’s the reality of the situation because money, unlike rainfall, actually hits people in a very palpable way.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
The reality of it is what confuses me.
The president is capable of doing a lot of things, most of which do not involve a direct effect on the economy. There are a great many things people can look at to judge the quality of a president but most of the debate I hear regarding presidential quality is about the economy. It’s frustrating to me.
Mother, did it need to be so high.
The president is capable of doing a lot of things, most of which do not involve a direct effect on the economy.
But the vast majority of people don’t see that. They view president as an semi-god who is responsible for “running the country.”
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
You like circles?
"And, I'm guessing our soldiers are happy about this, that they're leaving Iraq. It is no fun being in a country where there is crumbling infrastructure and an ignorant population. But they said they are happy to come home anyway."
by WestcoastO'sFan on Nov 22, 2011 8:01 PM EST up reply actions
flagged
for excessive use of amphibian creatures
"And, I'm guessing our soldiers are happy about this, that they're leaving Iraq. It is no fun being in a country where there is crumbling infrastructure and an ignorant population. But they said they are happy to come home anyway."
by WestcoastO'sFan on Nov 22, 2011 8:05 PM EST up reply actions
Your mom is a reptile!
Totally got you on that one!
"And, I'm guessing our soldiers are happy about this, that they're leaving Iraq. It is no fun being in a country where there is crumbling infrastructure and an ignorant population. But they said they are happy to come home anyway."
by WestcoastO'sFan on Nov 22, 2011 8:11 PM EST up reply actions
Nascar?
"And, I'm guessing our soldiers are happy about this, that they're leaving Iraq. It is no fun being in a country where there is crumbling infrastructure and an ignorant population. But they said they are happy to come home anyway."
by WestcoastO'sFan on Nov 22, 2011 8:04 PM EST up reply actions
With the help of teh Google, the credited response was
“Whiskey makes my baby feel a little frisky”
Mother, did it need to be so high.
Ahem....that ain't country.
Disregard the first verse, but otherwise Sheldon summed it up pretty well with if you know what I’m thinkin….
I drink more brewsters than Punky
by PBR me ASAP! on Nov 22, 2011 8:52 PM EST up reply actions
Just this one
and just because of Ol’ Stickarms
‘Cause I’m a country boy, I’ve got a 4-wheel drive
Climb in my bed, I’ll take you for a ride
Up city streets, down country roads
I can get you where you need to go
’cause I’m a country boy
Tommy hunter still sucks!
If anything
Judging a President on the economy is like judging a pitcher on the shortstop’s RBI. in games he didn’t play in. on a team he didn’t play for. in Japan.
Tommy hunter still sucks!
You really think there's nothing to fear?
There’s some pretty terrifying polling out there.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Seriously, Romney isn't even polling at 1.
Of course he will win, but damn. The crazy train has been ahead of Romney in the pools the whole time.
"And, I'm guessing our soldiers are happy about this, that they're leaving Iraq. It is no fun being in a country where there is crumbling infrastructure and an ignorant population. But they said they are happy to come home anyway."
by WestcoastO'sFan on Nov 22, 2011 6:21 PM EST up reply actions
but he's been holding stead the entire time
eventually the Tea Party will tire itself out jumping from fringe candidate to fringe candidate and need a mid-election cycle nap, at which point the rest of the Republican Party will rally around Romney.
Are you saying of course Obama will win?
I think it’s going to be REALLY close if Romney wins the primary unless the economy rebounds.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
No, I'm not being optimistic.
My point was, people will vote for anyone, even a rapey pizza guy with no foreign affairs knowledge.
"And, I'm guessing our soldiers are happy about this, that they're leaving Iraq. It is no fun being in a country where there is crumbling infrastructure and an ignorant population. But they said they are happy to come home anyway."
by WestcoastO'sFan on Nov 22, 2011 6:25 PM EST up reply actions
Rapey Pizza Guy for 2016!
Wait, I want to make sure he’s against gay marriage first.
Mother, did it need to be so high.
I'm voting for Tim Wilson
Tim Wilson for Benevolent Dictator 2012 – Some Shit’s Gonna Change.
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Look at your calendar
Remind yourself of the Republican primary process.
Go back to ceasing to worry.
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
I thought liberals aren't even that big on Obama anyway.
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Nov 22, 2011 6:53 PM EST up reply actions
We're learning
Don’t let perfect be the enemy of good.
Y’all on the right side of the aisle learned that lesson 33 years ago with Reagan. We’re just now catching up. Lee Atwater was a freakin’ genius, as is Karl Rove. There’s no denying the messaging talents of the Republican Party. When Democrats get together and get drunk and bitch about other Dems, we all WISH we had the message discipline Republicans do.
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
There's a reason for the old joke
I belong to no organized political party – I am a Democrat.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Nov 22, 2011 6:57 PM EST up reply actions
I feel excluded politically around these parts Duck.
But I still love you all.
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Nov 22, 2011 7:00 PM EST up reply actions
You know I've got your back bro.
Say no to Prince Fielder in 2012.
by Knubles and Bits on Nov 22, 2011 7:09 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Aren't you banned?
Don’t give us a bad name KB!!!
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Nov 22, 2011 7:11 PM EST up reply actions
Coming from the guy who shits on the floor.
Say no to Prince Fielder in 2012.
by Knubles and Bits on Nov 22, 2011 7:16 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
If this doesn't turn off newcomers I don't know what will
"And, I'm guessing our soldiers are happy about this, that they're leaving Iraq. It is no fun being in a country where there is crumbling infrastructure and an ignorant population. But they said they are happy to come home anyway."
by WestcoastO'sFan on Nov 22, 2011 7:17 PM EST up reply actions
flagged!!!!!
"And, I'm guessing our soldiers are happy about this, that they're leaving Iraq. It is no fun being in a country where there is crumbling infrastructure and an ignorant population. But they said they are happy to come home anyway."
by WestcoastO'sFan on Nov 22, 2011 7:12 PM EST up reply actions
I know i am the outsider here
But this site is the best ,any other site would have been all over the young lady .
by RED SOX are #1 in my heart on Nov 22, 2011 7:18 PM EST up reply actions
That would be illegal in most states.
Say no to Prince Fielder in 2012.
by Knubles and Bits on Nov 22, 2011 7:23 PM EST up reply actions
Looking at you Mississippi
"And, I'm guessing our soldiers are happy about this, that they're leaving Iraq. It is no fun being in a country where there is crumbling infrastructure and an ignorant population. But they said they are happy to come home anyway."
by WestcoastO'sFan on Nov 22, 2011 7:26 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Trust me, I have serious respect for the Republican message discipline
That wasn’t meant to be sarcastic.
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
You had me at "I have serious respect for the Republican message"
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Nov 22, 2011 8:09 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
When the Republicans give me two recs per post
this will go green.
Say no to Prince Fielder in 2012.
by Knubles and Bits on Nov 22, 2011 10:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Republicans would never encourage something to go green
Drill Baby Drill
by kba26 on Nov 22, 2011 11:12 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
As opposed to the alternative?
It’s also obvious he’s been totally handcuffed.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
First of all DCO, you are still a kid and though I don’t know for certain, you probably haven’t experienced nearly enough to legitimately be concerned about these elections. Hell, I’m not even 10 years older (almost :( ) than you and I look at life and politics completely different then I did when I was your age. I’ve always been a republican, and you might always be a democrat, but I’m still a lot different now and you probably will be too. Try not to do anything rash, because no matter who is in office no country is ever going to be Utopia. That’s it for my advice.
Secondly, and I’m sorry Stacey, but I AM a ‘’hawk of a patriot" and one thing that I have experienced is some of my friends sacrificing their lives so you can come online and “hate America”. Because of that, I have no problem telling someone who hates this country to go fuck themselves and if that’s how you really feel then go ahead and do so (hate America and fuck yourself). If that isn’t what you meant then I would ask you to please choose your words better next time. See you guys tomorrow.
Say no to Prince Fielder in 2012.
by Knubles and Bits on Nov 22, 2011 6:07 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
You mean the day after tomorrow...
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Nov 22, 2011 6:09 PM EST up reply actions
One of the great things about this country
she’s free to say she hates America and you’re free to tell her to go fuck herself. lol
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
by O'sFan21 on Nov 22, 2011 6:28 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Let's have this be the last word here. :p
Or at least, I’m not banning a vet for taking offense to that particular statement.
I would like to point out that DCO did clarify her remarks later down the thread and it doesn’t sound like she’s going to be going around burning flags, so let’s try to all keep getting along.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Nov 22, 2011 6:51 PM EST up reply actions
Are we actually gonna start banning regulars for stuff?
"And, I'm guessing our soldiers are happy about this, that they're leaving Iraq. It is no fun being in a country where there is crumbling infrastructure and an ignorant population. But they said they are happy to come home anyway."
by WestcoastO'sFan on Nov 22, 2011 6:53 PM EST up reply actions
Regulars have been causing some of the issues Stacey wants to cut out, so... yes.
No one is going to get banned forever for getting in an argument in a thread, but from here on if things cross the line then the parties involved may be put in time out for a day or so. There’s not going to be one law if everyone knows your name and one law if you’re a new person/lurker.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Nov 22, 2011 6:56 PM EST up reply actions
What if my name is Norm Peterson?
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Nov 22, 2011 6:59 PM EST up reply actions
No point in arguing that
"And, I'm guessing our soldiers are happy about this, that they're leaving Iraq. It is no fun being in a country where there is crumbling infrastructure and an ignorant population. But they said they are happy to come home anyway."
by WestcoastO'sFan on Nov 22, 2011 7:00 PM EST up reply actions
The only bonus to being a regular is we can say
Fuck you to each other. Existing rapport and all.
Say no to Prince Fielder in 2012.
by Knubles and Bits on Nov 22, 2011 7:08 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Fuck you dude...we can't go sayin' shit like that!
Oh wait…..what was the point here again?
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 22, 2011 9:15 PM EST up reply actions
Hey.... wasn't my joke funny two up?
You should Rec it.
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Nov 22, 2011 6:54 PM EST up reply actions
Dude....I get likes for "pooped....felt good"
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 22, 2011 9:16 PM EST up reply actions
Well since I've been invited to stay
I will add that I chose my words very carefully in an attempt to keep things somewhat hypothetical (can something be somewhat hypothetical?). I may or may not have been successful.
Say no to Prince Fielder in 2012.
by Knubles and Bits on Nov 22, 2011 7:06 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I didn't read this thread because politics bore the crap out of me
So I’m just gonna reply here that people who say they are going to leave the country (or who do leave the country) based on an election, I don’t get that. If you care the much you leave, care that much to stay and fight for your country and what you believe in! If everyone just leaves then what?
Maybe someone already said that, but it’s just so silly to me.
What if Hitler reincarnated wins the presidential election?
I think it would be reasonable to leave then.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Ass Foam 2012!
"And, I'm guessing our soldiers are happy about this, that they're leaving Iraq. It is no fun being in a country where there is crumbling infrastructure and an ignorant population. But they said they are happy to come home anyway."
by WestcoastO'sFan on Nov 22, 2011 8:05 PM EST up reply actions
If I had reason to literally fear for my life, that would be one thing
No one in the current election makes me fear for my life. I’m not gonna get rounded up and executed no matter who wins.
It's less about my life right now than it is about my future in this country
And what people are willing to do to fuck up that future (EPA being cut, Department of Education being eliminated and my mom being out a job etc. etc.) Call it self-centered if you will, but it’s going to take a while for me to reconcile with the consequences of a president who’s willing to destroy social welfare. To do so, I may need to leave. It’s just too depressing to stay.
Contrary to popular belief, I am not Jewish.
It didn't actually get too political.
For the most part.
Say no to Prince Fielder in 2012.
by Knubles and Bits on Nov 22, 2011 8:05 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah... I don't hate America
I’m sick of the atmosphere and need to get away. That’s all I was saying.
Contrary to popular belief, I am not Jewish.
I finished LA Noire last night,
Freaking great game, wish there was more to play and I wish there were a game on the market that matches what LA Noire did.
"And, I'm guessing our soldiers are happy about this, that they're leaving Iraq. It is no fun being in a country where there is crumbling infrastructure and an ignorant population. But they said they are happy to come home anyway."
by WestcoastO'sFan on Nov 22, 2011 5:05 PM EST reply actions
I already promised my brother I would lend it to him.
When I get it back in a couple of months if you still haven’t played it I would be happy to.
"And, I'm guessing our soldiers are happy about this, that they're leaving Iraq. It is no fun being in a country where there is crumbling infrastructure and an ignorant population. But they said they are happy to come home anyway."
by WestcoastO'sFan on Nov 22, 2011 5:22 PM EST up reply actions
lol....worse than the Redskins!
Bottom five
28. Jacksonville Jaguars (3-7): Good thing about the Jags is that they play really fast games. The torture doesn’t last that long.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
Holy shit. Omar is 45 today.
I didn’t think he was that old.
"Human beings make life so interesting. Do you know, that in a universe so full of wonders, they have managed to invent boredom?" ~ Death
The amount of screen time for MKW on Community was so lame
"And, I'm guessing our soldiers are happy about this, that they're leaving Iraq. It is no fun being in a country where there is crumbling infrastructure and an ignorant population. But they said they are happy to come home anyway."
by WestcoastO'sFan on Nov 22, 2011 6:29 PM EST up reply actions
I just learned that Omar is the one who discovered Snoop for the show.
Didn’t know that. Pretty awesome.
Mother, did it need to be so high.
sigh
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/did-a-steinbrenner-write-the-new-cba/
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
It doesn't look good but I'm willing to see how it works for a few drafts before reserving judgment.
It is possible, as one of the commenters points out, that this kind of hard slotting system will ensure that the top players are drafted according to talent and will not fall to NYY, BOS, etc. who can more comfortably deal with high signing demands. If two-sport players turn to football where money is not guaranteed and careers are short, then so be it.
Mother, did it need to be so high.
Isn't it more likely
that the guys who are going to require overslot money fall to the NYY/BOS/Etc because they can afford to pay the bonus and the tax?
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
That's a good point.
It might very well turn out that way and it might not. I’m very interested to see what does happen.
Mother, did it need to be so high.
Well, the tax starts being lost draft picks.
If the rich teams are paying the tax in draft picks, the next year it’d (theoretically) even out.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Nov 22, 2011 7:43 PM EST up reply actions
KLaw and the usual suspects HATE this deal
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This is a big time make or break week in pick 'em.
Say no to Prince Fielder in 2012.
by Knubles and Bits on Nov 22, 2011 7:27 PM EST reply actions
oh shit....forgot about that.
I need to get my game on again.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 22, 2011 9:18 PM EST up reply actions
My heart skipped a few hundred beats when I thought I had lost my grandma's first edition Winnie the Pooh
But thankfully I found it. It’s not in great condition, although I bet if I got it restored it would be worth a considerable sum. I would never do that… and in the process I found my first edition Charlotte’s Web, which belonged to my dad when he was a kid! The books are so fragile but I really want to read them… grrr.
Contrary to popular belief, I am not Jewish.
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