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Amber Theoharis: Wondering how Duquette will approach sticky Roberts situation
"Roberts told me this is the most difficult thing he's ever had to deal with. This, coming from a man who practically had his arm ripped off covering first base in 2005 and had open heart surgery as a 5-year-old boy." Well, that certainly puts his concussions in a new light, doesn't it? Worse than open heart surgery as a kindergartner?

School of Roch: Giving Kelly Johnson a second base thought
'Tis the season for baseball pundits to throw stuff against the wall and see what sticks.

Wei-yen Chen expected to become free agent in December - MLB Hot off the Wire
The Orioles are just one of sa dozen teams that would like to talk to the lefthanded Korean pitcher. I'm sure this will end well.

School of Roch: More on the rotation
Apparently, there was something about the rotation earlier, because here's more now.

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How sad is this?

via Roch

The scouting director and director of baseball operations need to be replaced.

Two of the most important positions in the FO are still open. I don’t know how crucial the scouting director is on a day-to-day basis and it might not be draft season, but scouting FAs and potential trade targets must be taking a hit.

I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James

by J(O's)elskIL on Nov 27, 2011 9:42 AM EST reply actions  

Klentak just left. Give the man some time.

I’m not sure what’s going on with the scouting director.

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Nov 27, 2011 3:37 PM EST up reply actions  

They seem to have just hired one, so we can all stop freaking out about not having one.

"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP

by Eat More Esskay on Nov 27, 2011 4:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Also, hoe the hell is Kelly Johnson a type A FA?

Even though those designations are out with the new CBA, WTF?
And why even get into this discussion? We’re rebuilding and at 2B have Roberts (maybe/partially), Antonelli, Adams, and Andino (heh, AAA (also what level they all belong at)).

I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James

by J(O's)elskIL on Nov 27, 2011 9:45 AM EST reply actions  

Kelly Johnson would seem to be a CC-friendly player, no? Decent power; takes his walks… on the right side of 30 (for now…)

by thewaywardO on Nov 27, 2011 9:54 AM EST up reply actions  

All true and valid points and I think he is good (up and down but solid).

I’m just pointing out the futility and waste of signing FAs to multi-year deals (it’ll probably take 3 to get him to come to B-more) especially at a position where we have multiple young players waiting for a chance and no real rush.

I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James

by J(O's)elskIL on Nov 27, 2011 10:01 AM EST up reply actions  

If one thinks signing FAs is futile and wasteful, one should be thrilled with Orioles right now.

by thewaywardO on Nov 27, 2011 10:41 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm happy with the way the offseason is going.

I’d be even happier if we traded for prospects.

I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James

by J(O's)elskIL on Nov 27, 2011 10:42 AM EST up reply actions  

Designations?

After this season the designations go away. How is he ranked so high? In part…it does not measure defense.

by crawdaddy on Nov 27, 2011 10:27 AM EST up reply actions  

It changed. No designations anymore.

If you offer a player a high enough contract (this season it’s $12.5 M) and he refuses and signs somewhere else, you get compensation.
Link to better explanation (Item #2)

I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James

by J(O's)elskIL on Nov 27, 2011 10:51 AM EST up reply actions  

I like #5 on that list
5.The trade market for elite free agents shifts – “Only players who have been with their clubs for the entire season will be subject to compensation,” according to the CBA. In other words, teams won’t be compensated for losing players acquired in midseason trades.

"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King

by duck on Nov 27, 2011 10:59 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, there are some good points in the CBA but I want to see a draft/signing

period go by to see what effect the new rules will have.

I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James

by J(O's)elskIL on Nov 27, 2011 11:09 AM EST up reply actions  

I think it's really gonna hurt TOR and TB

Not being able to pay overslot $$$ as easily and the limitations on compensation picks just makes things easier for NYY & BOS, which seems to be the whole point of this agreement. Lost your last series to miss the playoffs? Well, here’s an extra spot! Prize draftees not falling to you because other clubs actually write big checks? Make ‘em stop! Hurting your draft position with those expensive free agent signinhgs? Poof! They’re gone!

If BOS & NYY don’t make the playoffs EVERY year under this system, whomever the team’s manager is that year should automatically be fired. MLB is really titling the playing field toward those two teams more and more every year.

"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King

by duck on Nov 27, 2011 11:13 AM EST up reply actions  

A good point has been made about the Law of Unintended Consequences.

You can’t positively predict how these rule changes will affect the market. But yeah, Steinbrenner and Lucchino couldn’t have written it better.
Another interseting point was made on Over the Monster (BTW I can’t remove it from the “My Blogs” tab). The fact that both WC teams play a one game play-in gives both a severe disadvantage while giving the division winning team with the best record a big advantage.

I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James

by J(O's)elskIL on Nov 27, 2011 11:19 AM EST up reply actions  

Once you've posted on an SBN blog, you can't leave it.

I think that’s pretty much how it works right now. It’s kind of annoying.

"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP

by Eat More Esskay on Nov 27, 2011 11:44 AM EST up reply actions  

I guess that's what I get for posting there.

It’s like getting an STD.

I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James

by J(O's)elskIL on Nov 27, 2011 11:45 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

it hurts Boston a lot, too

So much of their success is about their player development machine which starts with their drafts, which seem to be pretty good every year.

I'll develop my own image. I'm an original man. A one and only. I just need some help.

by Andrew_G on Nov 27, 2011 11:20 AM EST up reply actions  

They're one of the teams who gamed the previous system.

I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James

by J(O's)elskIL on Nov 27, 2011 11:27 AM EST up reply actions  

they also won't be picking up extra picks for marginal players

they were taking advantage of that system, too.

I'll develop my own image. I'm an original man. A one and only. I just need some help.

by Andrew_G on Nov 27, 2011 11:27 AM EST up reply actions  

Further

in 2011, Boston spent more than Baltimore in draft bonuses. In 2012, Boston will only be allowed to spend a fraction of what Baltimore can. That’s going to hurt the Red Sox sooner or later.

I'll develop my own image. I'm an original man. A one and only. I just need some help.

by Andrew_G on Nov 27, 2011 11:28 AM EST up reply actions  

Why will Boston be allowed to spend less than Baltimore in 2012?

Draft position slotting? Are the fines really going to be meaningful enough that Boston can’t pay overslot money in a meaningful way?

"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King

by duck on Nov 27, 2011 11:30 AM EST up reply actions  

Check item #3 on the previous link.

If you offer over 5% more then the recommendation, you lose a pick the next year.

I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James

by J(O's)elskIL on Nov 27, 2011 11:32 AM EST up reply actions  

I'll believe it when I see it.

I just can’t see Bud Selig taking a draft pick from BOS or NYY. I just do not believe he will do it.

"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King

by duck on Nov 27, 2011 11:33 AM EST up reply actions  

what's he going to do?

Make a public and specific exception for them?

I'll develop my own image. I'm an original man. A one and only. I just need some help.

by Andrew_G on Nov 27, 2011 11:33 AM EST up reply actions  

Oh, it wouldn't be THAT cut & dried

There would be weasel language about “well, technically, if amortized over the life of the contract and expected rates of inflation, the actual economic impact of the contract does fall just below the thresholds demonstrated in the labor agreement at this time….”

I do not believe Bud Selig will ever take any meaningful action against those two clubs that would impact their performance. I just don’t. That would require a spine, and he doesn’t have one.

"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King

by duck on Nov 27, 2011 11:36 AM EST up reply actions  

this is silly

I'll develop my own image. I'm an original man. A one and only. I just need some help.

by Andrew_G on Nov 27, 2011 11:40 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Let me have my conspiracy theories!

"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King

by duck on Nov 27, 2011 11:40 AM EST up reply actions  

Not so sure about that

Selig sure will bring the shit hammer down on anyone who doesn’t share his antiquated view of the farce known as the all star game as the most important thing in the history of… history itself.

You watch. Anyone, even from NYY or Bos, who’s picked for the game, healthy enough to go & stays home will be suspended for the entire 2nd half.

"If you don't like the effect, don't produce the cause."

- George Clinton

by sluggo 2.0 on Nov 28, 2011 9:15 AM EST up reply actions  

It's pretty cut and dry.

The new CBA doesn’t leave much wiggle room in this regard.

"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP

by Eat More Esskay on Nov 27, 2011 11:34 AM EST up reply actions  

I believe they will

exceed your given bonus allotment by more than 5% and you lose your first rounder in the next draft. Go higher than 10% and you lose more draft picks. even just going over by 1% and you’re hit with a pretty aggressive tax.

I'll develop my own image. I'm an original man. A one and only. I just need some help.

by Andrew_G on Nov 27, 2011 11:32 AM EST up reply actions  

I know what the contract says

I just don’t trust Bud Selig to actually enforce it against NYY and BOS. Would he take a pick from us or PIT or even TB? Sure. But BOS and NYY? All of a sudden, there’s mitigating factors, contract language that juuuuuust skirts the level of taking a pick, you name it.

"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King

by duck on Nov 27, 2011 11:34 AM EST up reply actions  

Add up the dollar signs, apply penalty if necessary.

There’s not much to screw around with there, unless you think there will start being under the table payments to the draftees. I don’t think teams would take chances on that kind of stuff.

"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP

by Eat More Esskay on Nov 27, 2011 11:36 AM EST up reply actions  

its not like in the last CBA

where there was a luxury tax that only ever affected NYY, BOS, and PHI that he didn’t go and collect it. And – it isn’t like when Boston signed a Type A like Jon Lackey Bud called up the Angels and told them sorry but I’m not taking the pick away from Boston.

I'll develop my own image. I'm an original man. A one and only. I just need some help.

by Andrew_G on Nov 27, 2011 11:37 AM EST up reply actions  

75% tax. It's crazy.

In a practical sense, it’s hard-slotting. Unless there is a super-prospect there’s no way anyone goes over.

I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James

by J(O's)elskIL on Nov 27, 2011 11:36 AM EST up reply actions  

Not sure about the hard slotting

Let’s say the Orioles draft budget for their first 10 picks is $10M. So, up to the 5% where there is only a monetary penalty, the 10 picks the Orioles receive need to be signed for $10.5M. I would bet the Orioles draft 2 or 3 tough signs with the intention of signing only 1 or 2 of them.

It can’t be gamed as much as it used to, but I’m sure it can be gamed in some ways.

BTW, does anyone know if there is compensation for not signing a draft pick like there is currently?

If you look at those UZR ratings or whatever

by dfa on Nov 27, 2011 1:07 PM EST up reply actions  

I think I'm thinking out loud,

Let’s say Bryce Harper is there for the taking in 2012. The #1 pick is slotted for $6M but he swears he will go to USC if he doesn’t get $8M. The second round pick is slotted for $1M. Do you pick Harper and someone you don’t expect to sign with #2 pick so you can allocate more money for Harper?

I don’t think that will happen, frankly. But I’m just trying to see where the opportunities are. I think it’s the amateurs who really lose out here. I would also venture a guess that accurately ranking amateurs is more important than ever.

If you look at those UZR ratings or whatever

by dfa on Nov 27, 2011 1:16 PM EST up reply actions  

I think thats possible

but if you do that, then you’re voluntarily forfeiting the #2 pick to go overslot on Harper rather than signing both and taking the CBA penalty. Either way, the new rules have greatly limited your ability to build through the draft.

by kba26 on Nov 27, 2011 1:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Why would MLB want to do that?

I don’t understand MLB’s rush to kill the effectiveness of the draft – if you want competitive balance, this is one of the ways smart clubs can get better. Now, there’s even more of an advantage to being a big market club, because you can write the $100M checks others can’t, but the small market club doesn’t get to write a $6M check for a draftee to make them better. Ridiculous.

Would we have even been able to draft & sign Manny Machado, Matt Wieters and Dylan Bundy under these rules? Manny & Dylan had the option to go back to school to improve draft status, and I doubt Matt would have fell to us.

So life just got harder for the AL East’s worst front office. Ugh.

"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King

by duck on Nov 27, 2011 1:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, the idea is to keep players like Wieters from falling...

…although this hasn’t been a problem for several years.

Ultimately, this could result in more drafts like the Hobgood draft, where teams go cheap at the top of the draft to keep more money available later in the draft. But the issues with the draft are also a result of how the CBA is negotiated – between current players and ownership, with amateurs and their interests not represented. Player reps like Jeff Francouer are not going to act in the best interests of amateurs who aren’t part of the union, and ownership is going to take whatever they can.

To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa

by James F on Nov 27, 2011 2:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Leverage for what?

To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa

by James F on Nov 27, 2011 2:12 PM EST up reply actions  

What I was trying to ask was...

don’t players use amateurs as a negotiating tool? Maybe leverage wasn’t the right word, but I thought that was what happened with this CBA.

by ahoque24 on Nov 27, 2011 2:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Focus on defense, that's where this team can easily improve

Andino at 2b and Antonelli at 3b for their fielding. Roberts probably won’t ever be back because he has no incentive to risk his health doing so. Much easier to stay home and count the millions as they flow in.

"The key to winning baseball games is pitching, fundamentals, and three-run homers."

by ThreeRunHomer on Nov 27, 2011 10:34 AM EST reply actions  

Even though the O's REALLY need to upgrade their infield defense, there are only 3 GB heavy

pitchers on the team (Britton, JJ and Strop (SSS)) that would neccesitate sacrificing defense for batting. I don’t think the tradeoff is worth it.

I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James

by J(O's)elskIL on Nov 27, 2011 10:41 AM EST up reply actions  

Even non-gb heavy pitchers throw a lot of ground balls.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Nov 27, 2011 1:44 PM EST up reply actions  

True. But losing strong bats for strong fielding makes less sense the less GBs there are

I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James

by J(O's)elskIL on Nov 27, 2011 2:27 PM EST up reply actions  

OK, maybe I'm forgetting some pertinent stats...

but why don’t we start the year with Andino at 2nd?

His bat doesn’t play at 3B or OF, yet it’s OK at 2B. He was 19th among MLB 2B with at least 300 ABs in OBP last year. Sure it’s not great. but is it worth paying over $10/3 years to fix? Maybe the stats say otherwise, but I don’t remember his defense being horrible at 2B. His Rtot at B-R.com was a +2 and his Rdrs was even. I’m no stat-head, but I would think that shows he wasn’t giving away runs at 2B.

It seems to me we have a perfectly serviceable solution for BRob at 2B right on our roster in Robert Andino.

"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King

by duck on Nov 27, 2011 10:55 AM EST up reply actions  

What happened to Ryan Adams?

Andino’s future is as a good utility guy (and Roch constantly says that Buck sees him as such), I think Adams or Antonelli deserve the chance to start in the likely case that Roberts won’t be fully capable.

I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James

by J(O's)elskIL on Nov 27, 2011 11:03 AM EST up reply actions  

I guess I'm thinking we know what we have in Andino

We THINK Antonelli may be as good as Andino. We THINk Ryan Adams could be as good as Andino. But we have a fairly good idea of what Andino can do, and it’s servicable at the MLB level. Why look for a solution to this problem when there are so many other pressing needs?

Robert Andino was a servicable relacment level player, maybe a little better. And I’m scared to death we’ll trot someone out there for MILLIONS more dollars that we sign that won’t even produce that well. I don’t think Ryan Adams will produce even as much as Andino and Antonelli should be the utility guy. Becaused let’s face it, any innings we get out of BRob this year will be a bonus. I’ve fully accepted the fact we will never see him as a starter for the O’s again, aside from MAYBE a few weeks at the beginning of this year again.

"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King

by duck on Nov 27, 2011 11:18 AM EST up reply actions  

If we don't know what we'll get from Adams and Antonelli, why not find out?

I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James

by J(O's)elskIL on Nov 27, 2011 11:20 AM EST up reply actions  

I don't think Adams will be as good as Andino

but I agree with the rest: why waste money on a position that we can make do with when we have other positions that NEED the upgrades?

I'll develop my own image. I'm an original man. A one and only. I just need some help.

by Andrew_G on Nov 27, 2011 11:21 AM EST up reply actions  

As far as your last sentence

I hope you didn’t mean it as snarky as it read. Because if there’s one area you can’t criticize Brian Roberts, it’s his desire to play. Have you read about his symptoms? WATCHING a baseball game would kick off nausea-inducing headaches for him. He couldn’t drive. He spent days in his house, lights off, trying to get well enough to even get meaningful sleep.

"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King

by duck on Nov 27, 2011 11:32 AM EST up reply actions  

I didn't want to justify that with a response because I think B-Rob is busting his ass to get back.

Link to that interview with him. Watch it and tell me if you think he’s dogging it.

I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James

by J(O's)elskIL on Nov 27, 2011 11:38 AM EST up reply actions  

If the O's are going to move JJ into the rotation,

it would behoove them to focus on the defense. Between him and Britton, that’s a lot of ground balls.

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Nov 27, 2011 3:13 PM EST up reply actions  

duck

I read in yesterday’s BD that you used a drill bit in duck jr’s iPhone to try and get out the connector, did you get it from this site? Apparently the way this guy got his out was to go to someone who had a 0.5 mm drill bit (or a #76) who drilled down through the center of the connector, then tilted the drill enough to put side pressure on it enough to bring it out.

"Human beings make life so interesting. Do you know, that in a universe so full of wonders, they have managed to invent boredom?" ~ Death

by NSOsFan on Nov 27, 2011 10:43 AM EST reply actions  

That's where I got the idea, although I went with a 1/16" bit because that's the smallest I could find at Wal-mart.

And I’m duck jr. :)

It was the girl child’s phone. I didn’t get it out, but I drilled out enough that at least the speaker/ringer will work again.

"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King

by duck on Nov 27, 2011 10:57 AM EST up reply actions  

Has anyone here ever used Plex?

I’m in the process of converting my old macbook into a media center, and its one of the coolest applications i’ve used in a long time

by kba26 on Nov 27, 2011 11:37 AM EST reply actions  

Hey, so the Boston Globe reports we're still in on Ortiz...

…best news ever or bestest news ever?

To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa

by James F on Nov 27, 2011 11:38 AM EST reply actions  

bestester

I eagerly await the day that one of the Baltimore reporters actually gets a scoop related to the Orioles.

I'll develop my own image. I'm an original man. A one and only. I just need some help.

by Andrew_G on Nov 27, 2011 11:40 AM EST up reply actions  

The whole two of them that don't work for MASN?

"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP

by Eat More Esskay on Nov 27, 2011 11:41 AM EST up reply actions  

Of course we are.

Meet the new boss, same as the old boss….

"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King

by duck on Nov 27, 2011 11:43 AM EST up reply actions  

Geez man, holiday hangover much? What's up your ass today?

I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James

by J(O's)elskIL on Nov 27, 2011 11:46 AM EST up reply actions  

Also

I don’t know how I will react if the Orioles actually sign Ortiz, but I’m sure it will be unpleasant.

I'll develop my own image. I'm an original man. A one and only. I just need some help.

by Andrew_G on Nov 27, 2011 11:43 AM EST up reply actions  

At this point...

…there is nothing the O’s could do that is so awful that it would shock me at this point. I mean, if we gave Edwin Jackson $100m over five I wouldn’t be shocked anymore.

To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa

by James F on Nov 27, 2011 11:46 AM EST up reply actions  

we need that playoff experience to break the losing culture!

I'll develop my own image. I'm an original man. A one and only. I just need some help.

by Andrew_G on Nov 27, 2011 11:47 AM EST up reply actions  

honestly though

I really am not sure at all what to expect from Duquette, so in a way, everything they do from here on will surprise me. Hey, they signed Antonelli and pointed to his OBP as a reason for doing so. That surprised me.

I'll develop my own image. I'm an original man. A one and only. I just need some help.

by Andrew_G on Nov 27, 2011 11:49 AM EST up reply actions  

That's encouraging

And I honestly think this Ortiz mess is smoke from Ortiz’s agent. DD said he would be a luxury we can’t afford.

"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King

by duck on Nov 27, 2011 11:51 AM EST up reply actions  

I can't find any article that says anything other than that DD met with Ortiz's agent at the GM meetings.

"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP

by Eat More Esskay on Nov 27, 2011 11:48 AM EST up reply actions  

Nick Cafardo today wrote

and this is all he wrote on the topic in one of those catch-all articles: “David Ortiz is still very much in play for the Orioles”

I'll develop my own image. I'm an original man. A one and only. I just need some help.

by Andrew_G on Nov 27, 2011 11:50 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, just like the Orioles were laying in the weeds on Matt Holliday.

"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP

by Eat More Esskay on Nov 27, 2011 11:51 AM EST up reply actions  

Well, we probably were laying in the weeds

To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa

by James F on Nov 27, 2011 11:52 AM EST up reply actions  

we may still be laying in the weeds

I'll develop my own image. I'm an original man. A one and only. I just need some help.

by Andrew_G on Nov 27, 2011 11:53 AM EST up reply actions  

No WONDER we have ticks!

"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King

by duck on Nov 27, 2011 11:56 AM EST up reply actions  

We ARE the weeds.

"Human beings make life so interesting. Do you know, that in a universe so full of wonders, they have managed to invent boredom?" ~ Death

by NSOsFan on Nov 27, 2011 12:02 PM EST up reply actions  

with confederate money!

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Nov 27, 2011 2:35 PM EST up reply actions  

this

the O’s were waiting for his price to drop a little more sort of like Vlad last year. It never did.

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Nov 27, 2011 3:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Vlad's price dropped and we paid him the $8 million anyway.

"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP

by Eat More Esskay on Nov 27, 2011 4:02 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah, petey never stepped in for holliday.

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Nov 27, 2011 4:14 PM EST up reply actions  

that was pretty dumb

especially after he was specifically asked about it and he said “Well, he’s also Guerrerro’s agent, you know”

I'll develop my own image. I'm an original man. A one and only. I just need some help.

by Andrew_G on Nov 27, 2011 11:52 AM EST up reply actions  

Until something happens to prove me wrong

I’m going to cling to this quote

Q: Could you use a 36-year-old left handed DH (reference to David Ortiz)?

Duquette: "I could use a lot of things on my ballclub. It’s just a question of affordability and value now. I don’t know, that seems to be a luxury item right now given all the other work we need to do in other areas of the team.

“We did have Vlad Guerrero last year. I’d much rather sign those Dominicans for contracts when they are coming out of the amateur market rather than pay them a lot of money in the big leagues. We have to sign a few more of those before we look to a high-priced DH, I think.”

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by Stacey on Nov 27, 2011 11:55 AM EST up reply actions  

those Dominicans!

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Nov 27, 2011 3:11 PM EST up reply actions  

And he's basically shot it down himself
“I could use a lot of things on my ballclub. It’s just a question of affordability and value now. I don’t know, that seems to be a luxury item right now given all the other work we need to do in other areas of the team.
“We did have Vlad Guerrero last year. I’d much rather sign those Dominicans for contracts when they are coming out of the amateur market rather than pay them a lot of money in the big leagues. We have to sign a few more of those before we look to a high-priced DH, I think.”

Duquette on Ortiz, via Melewski

"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King

by duck on Nov 27, 2011 11:56 AM EST up reply actions  

yeah, but doesn't the globe article update things?

I just took Carfardo to mean that the O’s have expressed an interest in Ortiz, which at this point doesn’t mean much because dollars and years aren’t being discussed. I suspect DD just asked, “So what are you looking for Ortiz?” His agent said something way beyond what DD wanted. DD said, “OK, but I’m not comfortable doing that but let’s keep in touch.”

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Nov 27, 2011 3:22 PM EST up reply actions  

On the twitter, Buster Olney says Jimmy Rollins is "a couple of years away from the HOF conversation"

I feel like that’s going to be a pretty short conversation.

"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP

by Eat More Esskay on Nov 27, 2011 11:40 AM EST reply actions  

Voice of the marketplace

 The marketplace has delivered its verdict on the Orioles and the franchise’s future. Like rats fleeing the sinking ship, Jordan and Klentak left for jobs at the same level with new clubs. In Klentak’s case, his new club is headed by a GM who is young, meaning that he cannot inherit the top job as he might have in Baltimore. Klentak’s move had “let me out” written all over it. The pathetic GM search produced a candidate who was desparate enough to take the job.

The Os have two blue chip prospects in the minor leagues. Even if the team buys a few high priced free agents, the Os will be in the cellar for years to come given the stockpile of prospects possessed by the other AL East teams. I was optimistic when AM signed four years ago. No longer.

by BaltoBen on Nov 27, 2011 11:46 AM EST reply actions  

We Feed the World. Worst new Russian word of the week: Н А Г Е Т Ы [NAGETY – pr. NAH.get.y]

As I’m pounding the treadmill at my feetness kloop, er, fitness club, this ad comes on the big screen TV: An attractive Russian mother removes a tray of small, light brown, doughy-looking something-or-others from her oven and proceeds to dip one of them into a small container of sauce.

She then bites into it, revealing some sort of light-colored meat inside. Then we see the package, with the brand name in large letters followed by НАГЕТЫ underneath. Aha: Russia’s generic Chicken McNuggets have arrived— without the Mc, of course.

What would this country be without us? Well, healthier is a good guess.

We still suck, but on Sept. 29, 2011, we did a Very Cool Thing. Yeah, we did that.

by Titov on Nov 27, 2011 1:54 PM EST reply actions  

Have the Russians lifted their imported poultry ban?

Y’all were KILLING Perdue with that. Where else are they gonna dump their dark meat parts than Eastern Europe? Seriously, it was quite the lucrative market in the 90s for American chicken companies.

"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King

by duck on Nov 27, 2011 3:18 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Putin, I mean, whomever is the titular head of the Russian government

brings it back every now and then.

And I’m loving the clip of Putin getting booed at last week’s PPV MMA fight and his people spinning it that the crowd was booing the American that Fedor Emelianenko had just beaten. And dozens of Russians jumped on Twitter and YouTube to say, “No, we were booing Putin.”

"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King

by duck on Nov 27, 2011 5:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, that was pretty cool at the no-rules thing

And political life is so stultified here that half the media spent a week “interpreting” the booing.

FWIW, a trainer guy at my feetness kloop said Oh yeah, they were DEF booing Putin all right— because his security people had locked down all the entrances/exits for sth over 2 hrs and fans who’d been drinking beer (etc.) through the whole event couldn’t leave after it was over to take a leak as long as Putin was still there haranguing the crowd.

We still suck, but on Sept. 29, 2011, we did a Very Cool Thing. Yeah, we did that.

by Titov on Nov 28, 2011 12:24 AM EST up reply actions  

No rules thing?

Dude. there are LOTS of rules in MMA. Lots.

http://www.abcboxing.com/unified_mma_rules.html

"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King

by duck on Nov 28, 2011 9:33 AM EST up reply actions  

That's really odd

because the M-1 promotion follows the Unified Rules.

Now there’s a crooked company if I’ve ever seen one. M-1 and its head are something else….

"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King

by duck on Nov 28, 2011 10:13 AM EST up reply actions  

I dunno, maybe the Russ name is s'posed to suggest to peeps here No Marquis of Queensbury-type rules

If I remember I’ll axe the trainer guy at my club what he thinks of the fact that people elsewhere don’t call it that — ‘cause there’s like a million rules.

We still suck, but on Sept. 29, 2011, we did a Very Cool Thing. Yeah, we did that.

by Titov on Nov 28, 2011 1:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Sickels put up his annual O’s prospect rankings.

The four through seven guys received better grades than I expected not that a B- is something to get super excited about. But there’s hope!

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Nov 27, 2011 3:03 PM EST reply actions  

this is close to my assessment
This isn’t a great system and there is a distinct lack of star potential once you get past the top three, but it is NOT empty and progress has been made in recent years. There is good depth in Grade B-/C+ types, and some of them (and some of the Grade Cs) are young and/or projectable enough to rank higher next year with proper development.

If you look at those UZR ratings or whatever

by dfa on Nov 27, 2011 4:01 PM EST up reply actions  

I haven't paid enough attention to Esposito, Bundy Sr., Klein, and Delmonico.

But I will now. I’ve never heard of Parker Bridwell or Glynn Davis, but they could turn interesting very fast. Same with Baker.

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Nov 27, 2011 4:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Delmonico could be something

My BiL & SiL live in Knoxville, and the kid’s supposed to be legit.

"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King

by duck on Nov 27, 2011 5:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Delmonico's defense is still raw at 3B

Glynn “cold front” Davis ( throwback nickname)
“Skanky” Hoes
Trent “I want my” Mummey
And of course Sebastian “Darth” Vader

Headline writers have their fingers crossed that these guys make the majors.

"The key to winning baseball games is pitching, fundamentals, and three-run homers."

by ThreeRunHomer on Nov 27, 2011 10:09 PM EST up reply actions  

proper development

hahahaha

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Nov 27, 2011 5:22 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

another bird dropping

Fangraphs on Matt Antonelli.

Dan Duquette’s first real move at the helm of the Orioles was a little interesting, not because of the player but because of the contract terms. That’s not to say it was a bad move, just a curious one. Antonelli is exactly the kind of player a non-contender should take a flier on, a middle infielder with a knack for working the count and putting the ball in play. It doesn’t take much for a guy with that skill set to be worth two wins, but Antonelli’s got a lot to prove first. The O’s clearly think he’s worth the risk given the investment they’ve already made in him.

I like this signing.

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Nov 27, 2011 3:44 PM EST reply actions  

Don't know if it was posted

but have you guys seen this ? Thanksgiving related. Not NSFW at all either.

"Human beings make life so interesting. Do you know, that in a universe so full of wonders, they have managed to invent boredom?" ~ Death

by NSOsFan on Nov 27, 2011 4:10 PM EST reply actions  

Also:

"Human beings make life so interesting. Do you know, that in a universe so full of wonders, they have managed to invent boredom?" ~ Death

by NSOsFan on Nov 27, 2011 4:22 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

Oops, that turned out bigger than I thought.

"Human beings make life so interesting. Do you know, that in a universe so full of wonders, they have managed to invent boredom?" ~ Death

by NSOsFan on Nov 27, 2011 4:22 PM EST up reply actions  

yay

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Nov 27, 2011 6:49 PM EST up reply actions  

we'll see.

I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James

by J(O's)elskIL on Nov 27, 2011 11:24 PM EST up reply actions  

A quick search of the internet reveals next to nothing on this guy,

I even went to the Blue Jays website and searched for Rajsich, but there were no hits. Of course, I can’t say I know who the Orioles crosschecker is either. I do know of the award winning Dean Albany though.

If you look at those UZR ratings or whatever

by dfa on Nov 28, 2011 12:40 AM EST up reply actions  

I don't even know what a cross-checker is.

I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James

by J(O's)elskIL on Nov 28, 2011 1:10 AM EST up reply actions  

It's a penalty in lacrosse

Oh wait, that’s the guy. The penalty is cross checking.

We still suck, but on Sept. 29, 2011, we did a Very Cool Thing. Yeah, we did that.

by Titov on Nov 28, 2011 7:33 AM EST up reply actions  

'Course, this doof could also be called for checking from behind. Typical of a bad DEF badly beaten

This shot could be titled Five Seconds Before a Goal

We still suck, but on Sept. 29, 2011, we did a Very Cool Thing. Yeah, we did that.

by Titov on Nov 28, 2011 7:43 AM EST up reply actions  

Actually,

he was signed about a week ago. So, never mind, it probably has been posted already.

by ahoque24 on Nov 28, 2011 12:40 AM EST up reply actions  

that link reports that Lou Montanez elected for free agency.

i heard that guy can hit.

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Nov 28, 2011 1:43 AM EST up reply actions  

DEAL WITH IT!

"Three thousand years of beautiful tradition,from Moses to Sandy Koufax,YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT I'M LIVING IN THE FUCKING PAST!"- Walter Sobchak

by j.q. higgins on Nov 29, 2011 5:01 PM EST up reply actions  

I wonder if they saw him in game action...

If you look at those UZR ratings or whatever

by dfa on Nov 28, 2011 12:41 AM EST up reply actions  

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