29 Trades for 29 Teams: Colorado Rockies
The Colorado Rockies are in fact a baseball team that exists. There really are only a few ties between the Rockies and the Orioles...off the top of my head I can think of Garrett Atkins, Melvin Mora and Ty Wigginton as guys who played for both teams. I'm sure I'm forgetting more than one, but I wanted to end this cold war between the two clubs.
In reading the SB Nation Rockies blog, I learned a few things:
- No love for Keith Law
- 2B and 3B are up in the air
- They have a bunch of underwhelming starters.
I'm starting to think we should start an exchange program.
So, what do they need that that Orioles have? Well, I'm not sure that the Orioles have a lot, but I do see their need for 2B/3B types and naturally I thought of Robert Andino. You have to like Andino's story especially if you liked Hayden Penn more than you should have, and the fact that he was the first Oriole to hit an inside the park homer in Camden Yards since Babe Ruth did when he was a kid getting drunk at his dad's bar, which may or may not have happened. Anyway, I think Andino makes some degree of sense for the Rockies since he can play all around the infield and can hit lefties.
Why do the Rockies need Andino? Well, I think playing in the NL West you are never really out of it given how fluid that division appears to be from afar. In that regard, it makes sense to bolster your roster as best you can on a year by year basis. So 2012 could prove a year they are in the hunt for the division title if CarGo and Tulo can find that magic, or it could just as easily be a relatively anonymous year where they finish 4th. But Andino's versatility and ability to hit lefties I think make him attractive to the National League.
What do they have that the Orioles want? And what is Robert Andino worth? Always with these questions! To Andino first, he is relatively fungible utility infielder, but there is some upside: he is 27 and his OPS against lefties the last 3 seasons in .699. That has to be worth something. The Rockies literally have 10 candidates for the starting staff in 2012, at least per some poster on their blog. One guy who struck my eye is their 18th ranked prospect according to this website: Christian Friedrich. Friedrich is a former top prospect (like Andino!) and is a left handed pitcher who repeated AA in 2011, posting a 4.83 FIP in 2011. He set the world on fire in 2009 but disappointed in AA in 2010 and didn't fare much better in 2011. So he is potentially not highly valued by the Rockies. From the Orioles perspective, he would join a series of meh guys in AAA who could start when the guys who actually make the team inevitably falters. For the Orioles, it also clears some of the log jam at second/third, though does open a hole as the backup shortstop, and given Hardy's injury history, that could prove costly. But the idea of a 24 year old lefty pitching prospect is pretty intriguing to me.
So, what do you think?
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there are a lot of guys who have played for both teams
More than I would have guessed.
Rodrigo Lopez!
Awesome, thanks for that link
But wow, what a crappy bunch!
If you look at those UZR ratings or whatever
Patton / Andino
We’re so desperate for a left handed starter that we make a blockbuster (or not) for Dana Eveland and now it’s suggested that we take the one and only Christian Friedrich for Robert Andino.
Troy Patton is left handed and had a rather surprisingly good, albeit understated, season last year. He pitched well and is absolutely worth a try. But Buck’s shit list is starting to rival John Harbaugh’s, whose list is like the Hotel California – you can check in but you can never leave.
So Patton will continue facing two guys out of the bullpen when he could be the answer to a lot of questions.
As for Andino, nobody seems to notice how good this guy is getting. Everything he can’t do, he teaches himself to do. Remember when he couldn’t hit righties for the life of him? No more. He filled in at second base better and better as the season went along, added a bit of power, and is a very legitimate candidate to be the regular second baseman this year.
People are making the mistake of using one at bat – the now-famous “Curse of the Andino” hit against the Red Sox – as the sum of this guy’s worth. That’s ridiculous. He will never be a superstar, but he is primed to be a .270-15-75 second baseman. And compared to this Antonelli and the other clowns they are bringing in to push Roberts out of the picture, Andino is a superstar.
Someone please send this post to Dan Duquette. After the week he had in Dallas, he could use a little friendly advice. To his credit, he is busting his hump trying to understand the Baltimore baseball fan, but so far he is clueless. We’re not so simple to understand, and we are much too smart for anyone to think it is easy.
I'll have what you're having!
He will never be a superstar, but he is primed to be a .270-15-75 second baseman
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I like Robert Andino and all, but that is quite the expectation. In over 3,000 minor league at bats, he has a 683 OPS. I think his value in his versatility, but winning utility infielder of the year doesn’t help the Orioles very much.
If you look at those UZR ratings or whatever
Keep watching that OPs
As he improves his power, so will his OPS. My whole point is that he is continuing to become a better player, not a great one. And expecting in the area of .270-15-75 is hardly an endorsement for Under Armour ads.
Remember, at one point, Andino was penciled in as the shortstop for the Marlins. Then Hanley Ramirez arrived and Robert was kicked out, (And then Jose Reyes arrived and Hanley was kicked out, but that’s another story!)
It's generally assumed that if Patton goes back to starting
his arm will fall off … again.
He’s good in the pen.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." - EW
by ThreeRunHomer on Dec 11, 2011 11:30 AM EST up reply actions
Forget about the bat for just a second...
Hardy’s injury history? Have we already forgotten about B Rob? We NEED a utility man and Andino has stepped up. After that wild end to the season last year, we have to bring him back. He was really starting to turn it on and REALLY came up clutch. You’re proposing a AA starter that might never make it to replace a utility man covering for at least TWO of our infielders? Keep digging. The Rockies have someone of equal value, Friedrich plus another prospect and then we’re talking.
The utility man issue,
It’s a fair point. I value Andino’s ability to play short, but I think the Orioles have a bunch of guys who can play second and third already (Reynolds and Davis at third, Antonelli and Flaherty and second and third and Adams at second).
In trying to figure out what Andino’s value is, it isn’t easy. That is where I figured going after a pitching prospect who is not one of their top 5 prospects. I settled on Friedrich because I think he has a high ceiling, though doesn’t have a great chance of reaching it. So kind of like a left handed Chris Tillman.
If you look at those UZR ratings or whatever
I agree with dfa here.
Utility men of Andino’s caliber are not hard to find. He does not hit well, does not get on base particularly well, and plays pretty average defense. A starter in AA is a fair trade here. Just because we may “need” a utility man (we don’t, btw) does not mean that Andino has any more value than this.
Mother, did it need to be so high.
























