Tuesday Bird Droppings
Congrats to zknower for winning week 15 of CC Pick 'Em. He now sits one point behind the leader, Astronaut Mike Dexter, with four of us two points behind and tied for third. It's coming down to the last few weeks. Who. Will. Own. It.
Amber Theoharis: Are Japanese pitchers worth the risk?
Amber says, and I quote, "The business of posting Japanese players in order to compensate the Nippon Professional Baseball teams they are leaving is the worst idea ever implemented in major league history, other than the 1976 White Sox uniforms featuring shorts."
Steve Melewski: Callis on Duquette, the farm, O's future and more
Jim Callis on the O's minors and the fact that the Orioles won't contend any time soon. Gee, you think?
For Orioles Hall of Famers, statues at Camden Yards 'a very nice gesture' - herald-mail.com
When the Orioles announced their improvements for the stadium, did you think, "I wonder what Hall of Famer Jim Palmer thinks of the changes?" Now you can find out!
Nick & Christina Markakis take three Baltimore children on a shopping spree at Target
Nick Markakis, the Oriole Bird, and Kid from Kid 'n Play go Christmas shopping.
5 Things We Learned from Chargers 34, Ravens 14 - baltimoresun.com
This is Ravens analysis, not Orioles, but it's great. Kevin Van Valkenburg asks the question, "Is Joe Flacco essentially Nick Markakis?" (It's #3 on the list)
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Now that Jason Kubel is Arizona's starting left fielder,
Gerardo Parra’s probably available. Anyone have thoughts on trading Adam Jones somewhere, then picking up Parra from the D’backs?
Parra would be great
but who do you want to send to Arizona for him? Machado or Schoop?
Your cannonball trajectory, it always gave me hope
ummm
Not sure why you would have to send so much. Clearly by the Kubel signing they view him as a 4th outfielder. We shouldn’t have to pay for their undervalueing
by mdterps0325 on Dec 20, 2011 10:38 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah, I agree.
They’re not gonna give him up for free, but he shouldn’t be too expensive if they would rather have Kubel starting in left.
Did I miss something there?
The D’backs have Justin Upton in right, Chris Young in center and Paul Goldschmidt at first. They’re playing Kubel $7.5M, so he’s obviously their starter in left. That makes Parra their 4th OF, and it means that they don’t think highly of him (i.e. don’t think he’s capable for out-performing Kubel.) Even if they see Parra as a super-4th outfielder, 4 years of a super-bench player isn’t worth a top prospect.
Also, as Jazayerli points out in the article below, it’s worthwhile to trade minor leaguers for an undervalued major leaguer.
See: Hardy, JJ
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Dec 20, 2011 12:04 PM EST up reply actions
We acquired Hardy in a trade for junk.
Brett Jacobsen and Jim Hoey.
by Tezcatlipoca on Dec 20, 2011 12:11 PM EST up reply actions
Seriously... who added the "joked'?
“I’m already a legend in my own mind, so it’s a continuation of that,” joked Palmer, the franchise’s greatest pitcher.
I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James
by J(O's)elskIL on Dec 20, 2011 8:27 AM EST reply actions 2 recs
There's going to be a separate garden full of bronze plaques
and each one is going to have one of Palmer’s favorite stories written on it.
by DaveAA on Dec 20, 2011 8:29 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
And most will start with...
“Well, one season in red Rock…”
OR
“Weaver didn’t know anything about pitching except he couldn’t hit it, so…”
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Some evil genius at ABC put Weaver & Palmer together in the booth once
EW: You know how the Chinese would tell time by the year of the horse, the year of the monkey, the year of the dragon? Well I’d tell time by the year of the shoulder, the year of the elbow, the year of the ulna nerve…
JP: Oh come on, I was really hurt!
Meanwhile poor Al Michaels was trying to call the game.
"You should put the secret group of people that you carry with you on your tech equipment second to the person you're sitting with."
- Merrill Markoe
Also, they're removing the flag court?
Way to make OPACY more generic! Good job!
I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James
It says they're getting rid of the flag court? It seems like they're just lowering the wall.
And making it a gate, for better visibility. Which is probably good right? I’m 6’2", but my girlfriend can’t see over that wall without a stool.
You're right.
It says “flag court wall”, not “flag court”. I missed the last word.
I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James
by J(O's)elskIL on Dec 20, 2011 8:36 AM EST up reply actions
My guess is that safety was a concern.
Frankly, I’d go with a 3’ wall with railing on top to prevent little ones from falling.
by Tezcatlipoca on Dec 20, 2011 9:16 AM EST up reply actions
Wasn't this interview with Callis already published?
Because if not that’s some crazy deja vu going on.
I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James
according to Melewski
they were questions he didn’t publish in the first version.
by Stacey on Dec 20, 2011 8:48 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I can't seem to find two different versions.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Dec 20, 2011 10:32 AM EST up reply actions
well the one I put up was posted yesterday at 8:30
with the line, “In reviewing some notes from the Winter Meetings, I found some quotes from an interview in Dallas with Jim Callis of Baseball America that had not yet been published here.”
Y'all ready for the Beef O'Brady Bowl today??
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
Hey, it's 'O'Brady's, please -- the on'ly 3-apos'trop'he wo'rd I kn'ow of in Eng'lish or a'ny ot'her In'do-Euro'pean la'ngua'ge!
And what a question: AM I READY?!? Does a chicken have lips?!? I’ve got BIG rub’es riding on FIU in this Apostrophe Fest, o’ course.
Truth to tell, I’m gonna miss a lot of the 1st half— gonna see Mission IV at 6:40 w/ brother-in-law et al. (he’s buyin’!). But I’ll def be back in time for FIU’s money drive.
In the meantime, here’s today’s big laugh: if there IS such a thing as an “elegant own goal”, this one by Nigeria’s Festus Baise is prolly it:
Yes fans, Baise really kissed that one! Thank you, thanks v. much, I’ll be here all week…
We still suck, but on Sept. 29, 2011, we did a Very Cool Thing. Yeah, we did that.
I definitely read that as big pubes on FIU.
I’m gonna miss most of the game too since the Caps are playing, but I’ll catch some of it. I dunno why, but I’ve actually watched bits of each of the bowls so far. Got money on FIU as well.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Dec 20, 2011 9:06 AM EST up reply actions
I watch parts of all/most, o' course. And despite legit reasons to smirk, detract, etc. (hello UCLA v. Ill) it's also true that
(a) you get to see potential pros in high-exposure circumstances (e.g. SDSU’s Lindley), which can be both interesting and useful; and
(b) many crap games have “additional dynamics”, as some individuals, schools and confs go into Sth-to-Prove mode and play well over their heads. While others (alas!) look like they’re playing in the Stay After School in Detention Hall Bowl…
Yeah, (b) is no doubt a prime reason ‘capping bowls is so hard: many of the standard lines of reckoning — who played/beat whom; relative conf strengths; performance-at-venue; etc. — go out the window. Suddenly you’re watching a team that looks like LA-Lafayette, but on steroids. Good for TV, bad for ’cappers…
The trick is not to lose your yearly conf winnings on the damn bowls— so I TRY to go easy on lay-downs for BOoC games. Which also allows me to enjoy the Tostitos Don’t Go With Egg Nog Bowl and the like a little more, simply as an athletic/art form, so to speak.
We still suck, but on Sept. 29, 2011, we did a Very Cool Thing. Yeah, we did that.
I watch them because they can be entertaining for the 10 minutes I tune in.
They mean little, but I always enter a pool, so I’ve got some money on the games.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Dec 20, 2011 9:37 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah, pools are great...except when you find yourself dead last, sitting for 3 days at the bottom of a list that includes
sixth graders, out-patients, people’s maids, visiting foreign students who’ve never seen an actual game…you get the idea.
We still suck, but on Sept. 29, 2011, we did a Very Cool Thing. Yeah, we did that.
Oh for sure.
I lost last year to people I doubt had ever watched any of the games that season. Then again, I hadn’t seen like 3/4 of the teams play either. I spend 10 minutes looking over their stats and competition….then make my picks. Needless to say, I’m convinced I’m gonna do better with that strategy this year because it would be pretty hard to do any worse than last year.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Dec 20, 2011 9:46 AM EST up reply actions
Jim Palmer is wondering why the statue of Jim Palmer isn't shirtless
Jim Palmer is also trying to figure out who those other guys are, because Jim Palmer was not only the only Jim Palmer in existence, he was the only Oriole worth mentioning.
"Human beings make life so interesting. Do you know, that in a universe so full of wonders, they have managed to invent boredom?" ~ Death
Dude....seriously.
Post pictures, especially this one, with subject lines.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Dec 20, 2011 8:46 AM EST up reply actions
If there's a subject line you can collapse the pic.
I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James
by J(O's)elskIL on Dec 20, 2011 8:52 AM EST up reply actions
Which is definitely required for such an image.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Dec 20, 2011 8:53 AM EST up reply actions
I can hide it, but I won't without permission from the boss lady.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Dec 20, 2011 8:54 AM EST up reply actions
Haha...my browser gets super slow with a ton of pictures I can't collapse.
Work computer is pretty shitty.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Dec 20, 2011 9:04 AM EST up reply actions
I have always wondered why everyones' work computers are terrible
My is crappy too and I think that with it would be more cost beneficial to upgrade computers every few years b/c they don’t cost that much anymore and it would improve productivity. Not to mention extra IT ppl needed to deal with older computer problems.
Excel should not be bogging down my computer!
by IggesRule13 on Dec 20, 2011 10:06 AM EST up reply actions
I agree with this.
Here’s the thing…
If I run a random company that does “office work” generically, such as Word, Excel, and Access, I want to ensure high productivity. I go to high tech companies that purchase top-of-the-line computers every year. I offer to buy those computers after they are no longer of a high enough quality for the tech company. I get them for less than retail price. That company unloads them for more than nothing. Win-win, no?
Also, every company should now provide employees with a dual-monitor setup. The ability to have two documents open and visible at the same time is one of the most productivity-increasing changes a company can make.
by Tezcatlipoca on Dec 20, 2011 10:11 AM EST up reply actions
They should especially make sure to have dual monitors by opening day
so I can gamethread on one and have mlb.tv on the other during day games.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
For sure
Also, every company should now provide employees with a dual-monitor setup. The ability to have two documents open and visible at the same time is one of the most productivity-increasing changes a company can make.
Even more reason to keep computers up to date.
Mine is 3.5 years old and sounds like a jet engine taking off.
by IggesRule13 on Dec 20, 2011 10:15 AM EST up reply actions
Excel 2010 seems to be a step back, at least in the troubleshooting I do
If you combine macros along with a lot of sheets, it tends to curl up in the corner and cry.
"Human beings make life so interesting. Do you know, that in a universe so full of wonders, they have managed to invent boredom?" ~ Death
I hate, hate, hate Excel 2010
Used to be able to copy and paste tables from websites directly into it. Now? It’s just text, and I can’t for the life of me figure out how to directly copy & paste.
And don’t get me started on Word eliminated scanning an image directly into a document. Beyond stupid.
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
I ran into this problem the other day, but eventually found a way around it
I don’t remember what I did, though. Something to do with “paste special” I think.
paste special values?
you have any examples?
by IggesRule13 on Dec 20, 2011 11:54 AM EST up reply actions
You'll want to use "Paste Special" and select "Text" or "Unicode"
by Tezcatlipoca on Dec 20, 2011 11:59 AM EST up reply actions
Well, if you stopped trying to do it in Excel (16)'10...
… you’d have more success.
What’s the processor speed on your granite rock, anyway?
by Tezcatlipoca on Dec 20, 2011 1:52 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, when the company switched to Win 7 obviously everything was 2010
A spreadsheet that was 50+ pages with macros, links, etc etc on every page would work fine on XP and Excel 2007. 2010? Good luck with seeing it even open during your work day.
"Human beings make life so interesting. Do you know, that in a universe so full of wonders, they have managed to invent boredom?" ~ Death
Jim Palmer objects to your wanting to cover up Jim Palmer's lady-pleasing visage.
"Human beings make life so interesting. Do you know, that in a universe so full of wonders, they have managed to invent boredom?" ~ Death
Sweet!
MI:4 has a babe battle.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
I've never seen any of the MI movies
Anyone know if I really need to go back and watch any of them to understand this new one? I only want to see it because I love Simon Pegg insanely a lot.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
ehhhh
I almost think that if you watched MI2, you’d decide not to see the new movie. I think you’ll be fine.
I would be SHOCKED if it had much to do with the others.
It’s been so long since the last one, and they tend to be stand alone popcorn flicks anyways.
the first and third ones are relatively good for mindless action flicks anyways.
But I doubt they’re required pre-reading material.
Tommy hunter still sucks!
I kinda figured
I’m not really interested in it for the story anyway. I’m not really an “explosions for explosions sake” movie watcher, but you put Pegg in something and I’ll probably end up owning it on dvd. So yea, as long as it isn’t unbearable without prior knowledge I should be good to go.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
January 2-3.
"Human beings make life so interesting. Do you know, that in a universe so full of wonders, they have managed to invent boredom?" ~ Death
6) Halftime during the Beef 'O'Brady's Bowl
We still suck, but on Sept. 29, 2011, we did a Very Cool Thing. Yeah, we did that.
while eating some delicious beef o'brady
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Dec 20, 2011 9:47 AM EST up reply actions
Who should do my work for the day?
1) twistedlogic
2) duck
3) Titov
by Tezcatlipoca on Dec 20, 2011 9:56 AM EST up reply actions
Don't count on me.
I’m not even gonna get my own work done today.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Dec 20, 2011 9:58 AM EST up reply actions
Смотря кем работаешь!!!
There, I hope THAT’S cleared up…
We still suck, but on Sept. 29, 2011, we did a Very Cool Thing. Yeah, we did that.
Hmm...
Oh, unless you wanna do MINE, ‘o course. Piece o’ cake: 1000 wds on “Aeroflot English” by COB Wed. (Moscow time, i.e. GMT +3)
We still suck, but on Sept. 29, 2011, we did a Very Cool Thing. Yeah, we did that.
Say, you guys hiring?
My wife is fluent in Russian, two dialects of Chinese, and English. She wants to live in Moscow at some point.
by Tezcatlipoca on Dec 20, 2011 10:18 AM EST up reply actions
'pends on what she wants to do...
http://www.themoscownews.com/JOB/
Re Moscow: I def like the city — but that wasn’t always true, and it’s def a not-for-everybody kinda place. That said, it’s always nice to hear that SOMEBODY in the U.S. thinks well of it as a potential place of residence.
We still suck, but on Sept. 29, 2011, we did a Very Cool Thing. Yeah, we did that.
Well...
Keep in mind that she did her master’s degree in Minsk, she worked for a Russian company for 3 years in China and 2 years here in the States, and she’s already on her third country lived in. Plus, we’d already know people in Moscow.
Of course, I’d have to get a job there too… I’m thinking of being a Russian mafia leader’s right-hand man.
by Tezcatlipoca on Dec 20, 2011 10:28 AM EST up reply actions
Oh hey, w/ a Masters she can def teach Eng. (or sth) at my university -- if she likes earning little $ very late!
I taught 3 courses this fall semester…and had not been paid as of Dec. 10!
As for comparative living experiences: after Minsk, Moscow will seem like frickin’ Valhalla..
We still suck, but on Sept. 29, 2011, we did a Very Cool Thing. Yeah, we did that.
I can't understand why :-)
unless you like the quality russian vodka.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Dec 20, 2011 10:29 AM EST up reply actions
You can buy them here too!
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Dec 20, 2011 10:33 AM EST up reply actions
Our Russian boss used to bring us vodka from Moscow when he flew back and forth.
Good vodka is really, really good.
Also had a Polish friend who brought us Polish bison vodka.
by Tezcatlipoca on Dec 20, 2011 10:36 AM EST up reply actions
Hmm again
Let’s not start on Russ. vs. Pol. vodka. People get v. emotional, then somebody shoves somebody, then some third party throws the 1st punch. ..
You get the idea. And it doesn’t end up looking like the amusing barroom brawl scenes in westerns (except maybe Deadwood).
We still suck, but on Sept. 29, 2011, we did a Very Cool Thing. Yeah, we did that.
I've had that argument.
A couple years ago, I spent the Fourth of July in China, drinking vodka with a Russian and Polish guy, and watching the World Cup.
I think I was doing the Fourth wrong. :-(
by Tezcatlipoca on Dec 20, 2011 10:44 AM EST up reply actions
Moscow vodka makes me scream and shout
And Georgia’z got the d-d-darkest p-p-p-p-potency
Anyone name the band?
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Beatallica!
"I don't have an on-deck circle for ideas. It's just 'Batter up!!' Even though they're bad" - Mike Birbiglia
by Parkinglotninja on Dec 20, 2011 12:06 PM EST up reply actions
That looks like some bastardization of back in the ussr
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Dec 20, 2011 12:07 PM EST up reply actions
Getcha tix for the tour! Do it NOW!
That’ll be P. McCartney in line behind me
We still suck, but on Sept. 29, 2011, we did a Very Cool Thing. Yeah, we did that.
i want to learn russian one day
adds to bottom of to do list
"I don't have an on-deck circle for ideas. It's just 'Batter up!!' Even though they're bad" - Mike Birbiglia
by Parkinglotninja on Dec 20, 2011 10:33 AM EST up reply actions
Moscow is an independent city.
However, Russia is divided into multiple levels of subdivisions.
In 2006, there were eighty-eight administrative territorial divisions (called federal subjects): twenty-one republics, seven krais (territories), forty-eight oblasts (provinces), one autonomous oblast, and nine autonomous okrugs. The cities of Moscow and Saint Petersburg also have federal status.
by Tezcatlipoca on Dec 20, 2011 11:25 AM EST up reply actions
Yo momma's so fat, they made her an autonomous oblast!
"Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs." -- Earl Weaver
Correction: Moscow is an independent, AGGRESSIVE city.
It keeps eating up surrounding territory*, and will digest more in ’12. Moscow Oblast (oblast-dee, oblast-da, life goes on) is getting progressively fleeced of valuable real estate via, how to put it, “suspect deals” made by Gov. Gromov w/ MOW City authorities.
*The gf is a “retroactive Muscovite”— she was born in a part of MOW Oblast which has since been incorporated into the Big Onion…the outline of which. formerly a nice circle, is now hopelessly confused by added-on carbuncles and wholly unconnected incorporated areas.
We still suck, but on Sept. 29, 2011, we did a Very Cool Thing. Yeah, we did that.
Ooh, good shot!
Right on target, if not dead center
We still suck, but on Sept. 29, 2011, we did a Very Cool Thing. Yeah, we did that.
A teacher complaining about work schedule?
And somewhere the wolrd’s smallest violin plays for you
"You should put the secret group of people that you carry with you on your tech equipment second to the person you're sitting with."
- Merrill Markoe
Teachers have to put up with some shittyness in their schedule sometimes.
Yeah, the summer and winter breaks are nice, but the majority of teachers are grading shit over winter break and taking classes or making curriculum improvements over the summer. That on top of getting up at 6:30am every day and the hours they put in before and after school… yeah, teachers don’t exactly have the cushy life and certainly don’t deserve a world’s smallest violin sighting.
by Tezcatlipoca on Dec 20, 2011 12:22 PM EST up reply actions
Both parents were teachers & my sister is a school counseler
I’m well aware that they put in full working days. More than full. It’s the yearly schedule I call bullshit on.
In any case, me & Duck go way back. Just having a bit of fun.
"You should put the secret group of people that you carry with you on your tech equipment second to the person you're sitting with."
- Merrill Markoe
My sister's first class every day (NY state middle school) starts well before 8:00.
Which I’d STILL rather have, I think, than this semester’s sked for a Theory of Translation seminar: Friday night 7:10-10:20. No joke. ’s what happens when you show up late (visa delays) and all the GOOD seminar times are all taken.
We still suck, but on Sept. 29, 2011, we did a Very Cool Thing. Yeah, we did that.
1st period starts at 7:45, doors open at 7:35
and I’m here by 6:45 my days.
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
When I was a teacher, I taught summer school during summers.
"Roberts is unconscious!!!!" - Jim Hunter, after Brian Roberts hits his second HR of the night. 9/21/09
I have no work left to do until next week
and even then it’s not even enough to take up one whole day. I haven’t done anything today but drink coffee, surf the web, and play some games on kongregate.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
Roger that.
daveh873 gets to do my work.
Flowcharts. Do ’em. Now.
by Tezcatlipoca on Dec 20, 2011 10:17 AM EST up reply actions
Here you go:

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
by daveh873 on Dec 20, 2011 10:37 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Same here
Yesterday I crammed thirty minutes worth of work into 8 hours. Today we’re going to break up the montony with a trip to 5 Guys.
I'm thinking Target
with a stop on the way for some coffee and perhaps a trip to the bank.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
One of my favorite baseball writers is on Grantland
and he has some interesting food for thought today:
To put this in terms that Billy Beane can understand: We’ve reached a point where trading away prospects is the new market inefficiency.
http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/7370324/the-mlb-prospect-bubble
Your cannonball trajectory, it always gave me hope
So, the O's should trade...
Machado, Schoop, and Bundy for Bartolo Colon?
I keed… I keed…
Yes, there is certainly a prospect boom going on right now. Hell, you should see my fantasy team in my deep keeper league: Mesoraco, Hosmer, Kipnis, Lawrie, Moustakas, Jennings, Brown, Rizzo, Myers, White, Turner, Teheran, and Strasburg among others…
by Tezcatlipoca on Dec 20, 2011 10:03 AM EST up reply actions
some people will argue
that one of the reasons the Orioles’s rebuild under MacPhail failed was that they relied on all of their prospects to pan out for the Orioles, instead of capitalizing on some of their value* by trading them when they were still blue chip prospects. But so it goes.
*I’m reminded of the distinction in energy between potential and kinetic. That works for baseball prospects, too. There’s potential value and present value. Present value is relatively easy to determine through sabrmetrics, though of course it’s not anywhere close to a complete knowledge. Adam Jones has present value; we know with high certainty what level he will perform at over the next 2-3 years. Potential value is really difficult to figure out; we think Manny Machado has high potential value, thoguh of course potential value is not actually worth any wins or losses. Anyway, I’m just thinking out loud here.
Your cannonball trajectory, it always gave me hope
Those are pretty good outloud thoughts.
Prospect hoarding is at an all-time high. If Machado’s potential value is equal to the kinetic value of, say, Tim Lincecum, the Orioles should do that… but they probably wouldn’t, because they’re the Orioles.
Billy Beane became famous for maximizing value by getting high return on investments. Even if the return was only middling (Scott Hatteberg), the investment was so low that the return was great. That time of thinking needs to be applied for prospects, too.
by Tezcatlipoca on Dec 20, 2011 10:32 AM EST up reply actions
they can't all be conversations about
“How come there are no women here? I was sure our hottie bracket would attract the women!”
Your cannonball trajectory, it always gave me hope
by Andrew_G on Dec 20, 2011 12:19 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Just read this Yahoo article on the "best cities for starting over in America"
Utah, Nebraska, ND, SD, Iowa, etc. Why the heck would anyone want to live in any of those cities?
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
Probably if they're on the run from the law.
Although from everything I’ve ever read, Alaska is the place to go for that, assuming you have some basic wilderness survival skills.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Dec 20, 2011 10:34 AM EST up reply actions
Well...
Utah is gorgeous in a lot of places. South Dakota, too. North Dakota has something like 3% unemployment, which translates to roughly 7 people being out of work in the entire state. I would assume that Iowa and Nebraska have less competition for certain types of jobs compared to New York or San Francisco.
Plus, there’s a lower probability of running into hipsters in the mid-west / mountain states.
by Tezcatlipoca on Dec 20, 2011 10:34 AM EST up reply actions
By "starting over" do they mean witness protection?
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
by daveh873 on Dec 20, 2011 10:35 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
haha no idea.
The article mentions nothing but unemployment rate and singles rate. I should note that the “singles” rate is generally related to the university located within the cities they mention, so if you’re 42 and looking for a hot 19 year old, those are the cities for you! Also, the unemployment rate is generally because of jobs in a single sector.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Dec 20, 2011 10:37 AM EST up reply actions
All those Yahoo "Best Cities to blah blah blah" are retarded
The one a few days ago was “Safest City in America” or something, and it was like Plano, Texas. Yeah, thanks. I’m very happy to know that the three people living in Plano haven’t stolen anything in the past 20 years.
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Dec 20, 2011 10:40 AM EST up reply actions
Too buzzed on Dr Pepper
The fake stuff anyway. Getting a case of the real stuff from the Dublin, TX, plant is on my bucket list.
"Human beings make life so interesting. Do you know, that in a universe so full of wonders, they have managed to invent boredom?" ~ Death
ahahahah so true.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Dec 20, 2011 10:45 AM EST up reply actions
Those are cities?
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
by O'sFan21 on Dec 20, 2011 11:58 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
No, it should have read "why would anyone want to live in cities from those states"
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Dec 20, 2011 12:00 PM EST up reply actions
"so if you’re 42 and looking for a hot 19 year old"
Isn’t that the American dream?
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
something like that.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Dec 20, 2011 10:39 AM EST up reply actions
19 falls below my 1/2+7.
On the other hand, Ed O’Neill gets to pretend to be married to Sofia Vergara and she’s within his 1/2+7. He’s definitely livin’ the dream.
by Tezcatlipoca on Dec 20, 2011 10:42 AM EST up reply actions
this this this
plus what’s the point in dating a girl you can’t even legally take in to a bar
clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...
You could if you were in Canada.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Dec 20, 2011 10:48 AM EST up reply actions
What's wrong with Canada?
Some smoking hot babes there.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Dec 20, 2011 10:53 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah
it’s that Scandinavian population. Kinda like Minnesota but more exotic because they’re from a different country.
Tommy hunter still sucks!
by Steve. on Dec 20, 2011 10:55 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Canada's great for diversity too...
Many attractive South Asian ladies in Toronto and many attractive East Asian ladies in Vancouver. Plus, those Newfie chicks will do anything.
by Tezcatlipoca on Dec 20, 2011 11:06 AM EST up reply actions
The pale blondes are far hotter.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Dec 20, 2011 11:07 AM EST up reply actions
you and Holymittens should go out scouting for pale chicks together
you can take the blondes, he’ll take the rest
clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...
I'm not really into blondes.
They were the best looking chicks in Canada though. Not to say they don’t have some smoking brunettes.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Dec 20, 2011 11:09 AM EST up reply actions
DCO'sFan is dating Manny Machado now...
She’s the only other female that I know of who posted here.
Apparently someone’s mom was here, too.
by Tezcatlipoca on Dec 20, 2011 11:12 AM EST up reply actions
I'm sure they're out shoe shopping or something
/Dibble’d
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
Yea true.
This was all back before the CG. We started going really downhill after that.
/JP’d
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Dec 20, 2011 11:15 AM EST up reply actions
think we scared them off with the hottie bracket?
i know those pictures of Meg White gave me nightmares for days
clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...
I think they all disappear in the offseason except for you.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Dec 20, 2011 11:16 AM EST up reply actions
To be honest, they disappeared quite a long time ago.
I don’t remember any of them being regular participants here in a good 2 years. That was right about the time of Osgirl21’s crazy freak attack and the beginning of the open threads.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Dec 20, 2011 11:22 AM EST up reply actions
Crazy freak attack?
This was before my time.
Please recount the events, with detailed flowcharts and spreadsheets.
by Tezcatlipoca on Dec 20, 2011 11:22 AM EST up reply actions
You had to be there, man.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Dec 20, 2011 11:23 AM EST up reply actions
Yea....I'm sure you could go back thru the archives and find it though.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Dec 20, 2011 11:24 AM EST up reply actions
Now that I think about it, those were good times.
I was interning in Arlington and had almost nothing to do other than comment here about chipotle and what not.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Dec 20, 2011 11:25 AM EST up reply actions
Oh, Chipotle!
Can you grab me 3 soft tacos, light on the hot sauce. Maybe some chips and guac? Thanks!
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
I'd like a fajita burrito...
… with beans and shredded beef. Guacamole, too, please. Corn salsa.
by Tezcatlipoca on Dec 20, 2011 11:35 AM EST up reply actions
yumm, Carnitas
Burrito. And there better be guac.
by mdterps0325 on Dec 20, 2011 11:39 AM EST up reply actions
rambling fanposts about her life, then she acted very weird about a camdenchat meetup, and I think she was finally banned when she unapologetically made of Tony Romo using a word that rhymes with his last name.
Bromo?
"Human beings make life so interesting. Do you know, that in a universe so full of wonders, they have managed to invent boredom?" ~ Death
romosexuals
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Dec 20, 2011 12:07 PM EST up reply actions
You're so cool...
… it was accepted as common knowledge, DCO’sfan.
by Tezcatlipoca on Dec 20, 2011 1:01 PM EST up reply actions
she was finally banned when she tried to cause an uprising to have me overthrown
telling people they didn’t have to take it anymore.
I can't believe one individual being banned
was enough to put down a revolution.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
It is if that revolution consists of one person.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Dec 20, 2011 12:53 PM EST up reply actions
Wait...
Starting a coup d’tat is a bannable offense?
/quickly deletes “Overthrow CC” folder on computer
by Tezcatlipoca on Dec 20, 2011 12:53 PM EST up reply actions
In the CC Court of Law
Stacey is judge, jury and executioner.
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Dec 20, 2011 12:57 PM EST up reply actions
she was a big fan of calling Tony Romo gay, that's for sure
and also talking about Eagles fans are so tough and they’ll kick the shit out of you for looking at them.
Also, she was Polish.
And you don’t even KNOW Nick Markakis.
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
I like Newfie music.
I can’t say I ever met a Newfie chick, though.
If I had to live in Canada for some reason, I think I’d want to live in Vancouver.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Dec 20, 2011 11:08 AM EST up reply actions
For sure.
I love that place.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Dec 20, 2011 11:08 AM EST up reply actions
If I were to live in Canada...
I’d like to live in Calgary or Halifax.
by Tezcatlipoca on Dec 20, 2011 11:09 AM EST up reply actions
Did you see the riots?
Then again, with all the HIMYM in this thread, Colbie Smulders is from there.
Newfie chicks are WILD
They will drink you under the table, no matter how much you think you can chug, and they’re also cool as shit to hang out with. If you find a good looking one they’re fuckin gorgeous. If you find a bad one, horrid. Examples of Newfie chicks: Shannon and Tracy Tweed.
"Human beings make life so interesting. Do you know, that in a universe so full of wonders, they have managed to invent boredom?" ~ Death
Sounds like Boston chicks
except there’s like 10 horrid for every 1 hot. I hope the ratio is better up north
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Dec 20, 2011 11:11 AM EST up reply actions
Did my last comment just come out twice and with just a subject line?
"Human beings make life so interesting. Do you know, that in a universe so full of wonders, they have managed to invent boredom?" ~ Death
Well...
Boston chicks also have the accent that makes them sound developmentally slow and are often Sox fans.
by Tezcatlipoca on Dec 20, 2011 11:13 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
The accent is just as bad, if not worse
Ugh. Just thinking about it makes me sick.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
Your hatred of Boston is admirable
NY/Long island/NJ accents are the worse
by IggesRule13 on Dec 20, 2011 11:34 AM EST up reply actions
I agree they are bad (especially Staten Island)
nowhere near Boston bad, but bad. Luckily, I don’t have a “Jersey” accent. It’s not really pervasive as far north as I’m from.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
like us Baltimorons have any right to talk
Go find some yocal and ask them to say Joe Flacco. See if you can avoid the compulsion to punch them in the face
by mdterps0325 on Dec 20, 2011 11:40 AM EST up reply actions
I am from South central PA
not sure about our “accents.”
by IggesRule13 on Dec 20, 2011 11:41 AM EST up reply actions
Apparently you change your "t"s to "e"s
like in the word “worst”
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
I grew up with a heavy southern twang.
A girl can sound elegant or redneck depending on whether she has a twang or a drawl. A guy just sounds ignorant, no matter what.
When I went to college, I worked on reducing my accent so a more neutral sound. But I do occasionally slip back into a twang from time to time.
by Tezcatlipoca on Dec 20, 2011 11:41 AM EST up reply actions
It's charming when it's a Baltimoron.
Why? Mostly because I grew up around Baltimore.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Dec 20, 2011 11:42 AM EST up reply actions
Haha yeah
And cuz my whole family talks like that. And I do when I’m drunk.
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Dec 20, 2011 11:44 AM EST up reply actions
I think I would like Canada
never been there, but here is a list of things I would like about Canada:
Whiskey,
Beer,
Snow,
Woodfires,
Big-ass Rocky Mountains,
Syrup,
Hockey,
Blonde Girls,
Tommy hunter still sucks!
I would probably rearrange this list a little bit
but yea….in a nutshell, that’s the list.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Dec 20, 2011 10:57 AM EST up reply actions
This!
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Dec 20, 2011 10:49 AM EST up reply actions
Dating?
I think we were talking about 2 different things.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
You still can't take her into a bar.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Dec 20, 2011 11:01 AM EST up reply actions
If you want to make sure you've got her friends for later, you might.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Dec 20, 2011 11:04 AM EST up reply actions
Talking?
Again, we are talking about 2 different things. I said the American dream, not the American harsh reality.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
oh my apolgies
i forgot you were so skilled you could coerce a 19 year old in to bed without using any words. please enlighten the rest of us with your skills, Obi Wan.
clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...
by Gamecock24 on Dec 20, 2011 11:09 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
That's a rec.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Dec 20, 2011 11:10 AM EST up reply actions
Well, not going to bars doesn't equal not drinking
but now the joke is getting to creepy level, so that’s enough of that
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
This*1000
"I don't have an on-deck circle for ideas. It's just 'Batter up!!' Even though they're bad" - Mike Birbiglia
by Parkinglotninja on Dec 20, 2011 10:49 AM EST up reply actions
Note to all:
If you get a speed camera citation, don’t even bother going to court. I just got back and they didn’t let me or a single fucking person off out of the 30 some people that went before me, some with genuine reasons for speeding like a father dying with proof in the form of a time-stamped death certificate.
There’s some flunky from the corporation that the state contracts the cameras out to sitting there ready to suck your blood the entire time.
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Dec 20, 2011 10:43 AM EST reply actions
Wow.
"I don't have an on-deck circle for ideas. It's just 'Batter up!!' Even though they're bad" - Mike Birbiglia
by Parkinglotninja on Dec 20, 2011 10:44 AM EST up reply actions
i fucking hate
speeding cameras with all the hate I can muster. And, as an O’s fan, most of my hate is already taken.
by mdterps0325 on Dec 20, 2011 10:46 AM EST up reply actions
Me too
I want to go around and destroy them all at night. I really do. Or at least pay some teenager to do it for me.
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Dec 20, 2011 11:13 AM EST up reply actions
I have no problem with them
I get them all the time, but I deserve them and they are relatively cheap and don’t come with points.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Yep
frees up cops to focus on the important things, you know. like pepper spraying college kids.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
by O'sFan21 on Dec 20, 2011 12:11 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
ha... I would hope it frees them up to actually drive on the road to pick out drunk/reckless drivers,
but I know that isn’t the case.
I was driving back from NOVA to Columbia around 1am sunday morning, and was able to count 5 potential drunk drivers (erratic speeds, unable to stay in lane) on the stretch of 495 between VA and 95. It seems like putting patrols out on the road would be a much more effective means of stopping these people than speed traps.
What I never understood
is why don’t they just have cops camped out front of popular bars, concerts, sporting events to watch the drunk morons stumble out and get in their cars?
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
If you ever go in to any of the bars in old ellicott city on weekends
you will see cops right outside many of them looking for just that.
sometimes they do
friend of mine got pulled over right after leaving Hooters. Cop was just scoping the place out and pulling over anyone who was driving poorly, which my friend obviously was. I question a lot of his decisions, starting with going to Hooters.
They have them in AdMo outside of the parking garage
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Dec 20, 2011 12:20 PM EST up reply actions
Ah good to know
haha
Concerts and sporting events seem like the worst.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Agree.
They don’t even pretend those are for anything other than additional revenue. There’s no concern for safety or anything. Just money. Bastards. The whole idea of speed limits as they are enforced is ridiculous anyways. Why is the speed limit 55 if cops will only pull you over for going over 70? Why not just make it 70 and actually enforce the law, as opposed to letting them nab people for going 65 when that’s what everybody does every day?
Probably because if the speed limit's 70 they don't have as many flimsy reasons to pull over black people in nice cars.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Dec 20, 2011 10:57 AM EST up reply actions
And
If the speed limit was 70 I’d try to stay under 82 so i wouldn’t get a ticket. If it was 80, 92.
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Dec 20, 2011 11:14 AM EST up reply actions
Well the idea would be that if it was 70, and any police officer saw you going 73,
they would pull you over. If it’s the “limit,” it should damn well be the “limit.” Or else just call it the speed suggestion.
Eh
A lot of the cameras in DC are in places where accidents occur often or pedestrians have been hit and I think most if not all cameras are set at 12 mph over.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
I think there are proper uses for speed cameras...
… but many are set up to be disguised, deceptive or just flat out in violation of Maryland law regarding warnings.
by Tezcatlipoca on Dec 20, 2011 12:09 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, this again
Again, I have no problem with speed limits. The entirety of the problem is with privatization and deception. It’s flat out corruption. In some countries, they just flat out seize your land or property. Here, they disguise it as necessary public services.
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Dec 20, 2011 12:11 PM EST up reply actions
I just find it hard to get that worked up about it
Usually everybody knows where they are within a few days of them being installed and speed traps are inherently disguised. I’d prefer speed cameras to raising taxes.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
But when they gain a new revenue stream, like cameras, they spend the money. And when they lose this revenue, suddenly, they “need” to raise taxes to cover the costs of all the new toys they got. It shouldn’t be either or.
by mdterps0325 on Dec 20, 2011 12:15 PM EST up reply actions
I think it's more like the money is going to be spent regardless
and it’s just a matter of coming up with it.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
It IS raising your taxes
It’s blatant tithing of the populous, and it’s a slippery slippery slope. The guy in the court room’s father fucking died, and he had proof and they didn’t let him off for speeding. To answer your question below, I was rushing my GF to the hospital. I had the paperwork that said that she checked in 20 mins before I got my ticket, and I didn’t get off. Just a cold stare and empty apology from the corporate guy and the judge.
Wait until prisons are privatized around here and you get a week in jail for jaywalking, accompanied with tons of fees.
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Dec 20, 2011 12:17 PM EST up reply actions
after* not before
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Dec 20, 2011 12:18 PM EST up reply actions
Only if you speed.
And not to be an asshole, but why does the guy’s father dying or your girlfriend going to the hospital mean you don’t have to follow the laws?
Prisons are already privatized in lots of places.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
I would argue that just laws allow for extenuating circumstances.
Although I guess that’s more up to the people who police/enforce the laws rather than the laws themselves.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Dec 20, 2011 12:21 PM EST up reply actions
But
because something bad is happening to you does that give you the right to risk causing something bad to happen to others? I mean were you really needed at your girlfriends’ hospital bed for a blood transfusion or something?
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
because something bad is happening to you does that give you the right to risk causing something bad to happen to others?
If a person breaks into your home, you’re allowed to shoot them.
by Tezcatlipoca on Dec 20, 2011 12:24 PM EST up reply actions
isn't there some precedent that would say you could?
Like that JHU student who sliced and diced the home invader with a samurai sword?
I think even in MD, Castle Doctrine is pretty solid
As long as you don’t shoot them in the back.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Dec 20, 2011 12:27 PM EST up reply actions
ive actually done a fair amount of research on this recently
As long as its self defense and you are fearing for your life youre ok.
"I don't have an on-deck circle for ideas. It's just 'Batter up!!' Even though they're bad" - Mike Birbiglia
by Parkinglotninja on Dec 20, 2011 12:30 PM EST up reply actions
I'm no law man
but I’ve made to believe that this is not okay in MD, but it is okay in neighboring VA.
Yes, you are
Gov. O’Malley signed the castle doctrine last year.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2518345/posts
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Is that the same as injuring random people because you're in hurry???
lol come on man.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
I was responding directly to the situation that you put forward...
… that Action A does not justify Person B risking injury to Person A.
Mind letting me know if you’re going to shift the goalposts ahead of time, so I can take that into account when I respond?
by Tezcatlipoca on Dec 20, 2011 12:29 PM EST up reply actions
I don't follow
the circumstances you presented were rushing to somebody’s hospital bed – they are not remotely related to defending yourself or your property against an intruder. The something bad that was happening to you was in no way related to the people who’s safety you were risking with your response. You were the only one shifting the goal posts by bringing up unrelated comparisons.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
I will go "haha" at that obvious joke and let that go
Most people would infer that someone who needed to go the the ER would not be capable of driving themselves, smart guy
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Dec 20, 2011 12:30 PM EST up reply actions
and wait 40 minutes?
thats weak.
"I don't have an on-deck circle for ideas. It's just 'Batter up!!' Even though they're bad" - Mike Birbiglia
by Parkinglotninja on Dec 20, 2011 12:31 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah
Troll
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Dec 20, 2011 12:32 PM EST up reply actions
You make a snarky response to try to push a button... you a troll
You white.. you Ben Affleck
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Dec 20, 2011 12:37 PM EST up reply actions
I ain't mad at you
it was just a particularly troll-y comment
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Dec 20, 2011 12:44 PM EST up reply actions
oh hey ... look... my "trollish" commented expanded and continued the discussion of speeding!
how’s that for trolling?
/apologizes for being a dick…
Yeah this is getting out of hand
Bad time to make a troll joke considering heightened emotions. As fun as this is I’m gonna brake for lunch soon and let it go
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Dec 20, 2011 12:44 PM EST up reply actions
yeah, make sure you "brake" for lunch
don’t want to get another camera ticket!
/troll troll troll

clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...
by Gamecock24 on Dec 20, 2011 12:47 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
He's been here forever.
Keep it reasonable.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
ambulatory care begins as soon as an ambulance gets to you
if you go to the ER, you will be delayed by check in procedures. I know from experience, and was told in no uncertain terms by the staff there that I would’ve been better served calling for an ambulance
i didnt account for checking in.
interesting..
"I don't have an on-deck circle for ideas. It's just 'Batter up!!' Even though they're bad" - Mike Birbiglia
by Parkinglotninja on Dec 20, 2011 12:37 PM EST up reply actions
A critical patient isn't going to be made to sign the forms.
Even emergency rooms will treat that gushing head wound before making you sign forms.
by Tezcatlipoca on Dec 20, 2011 12:39 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah exactly
This is an absolutely ridic sub-thread.
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Dec 20, 2011 12:45 PM EST up reply actions
If something terrible is happening to my wife and I believe her life is in danger...
I’m going to:
1) Call 911 to inform them I’m on my way.
2) Drive as fast as I (safely) can to the hospital, lights flashing, horn honking, whatever. I’ll deal with the ramifications when I get there.
by Tezcatlipoca on Dec 20, 2011 12:35 PM EST up reply actions
this
"I don't have an on-deck circle for ideas. It's just 'Batter up!!' Even though they're bad" - Mike Birbiglia
by Parkinglotninja on Dec 20, 2011 12:36 PM EST up reply actions
And that's what you did.
So deal with the ramifications.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Yeah you walked right into that one Tez
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Dec 20, 2011 12:37 PM EST up reply actions
I didn't walk into anything.
I’ll deal with the ramifications, but that doesn’t mean that I think the ramifications are just. It depends on circumstances and supposedly, that’s why we have courts and not computers where you input limited data and get a response.
by Tezcatlipoca on Dec 20, 2011 12:40 PM EST up reply actions
That's what the ambo's for.
Either that or go the speed limit. If it was a true emergency (like labor or excessive bleeding) the cop would not have written you a ticket but rather escorted you to the hospital or called for an urgent ambulance.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
There I've got you
You’re right, a cop would do that if it was a true emergency. Within the reason of the law there is leeway, as EME has said. That notion is gone, as proven by the events of this morning with dead dad guy and (more humbly) myself.
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Dec 20, 2011 12:39 PM EST up reply actions
No leeway when corporate backing and money grabbing is involved.
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Dec 20, 2011 12:40 PM EST up reply actions
True emergency...
If it was a true emergency (like labor or excessive bleeding) the cop would not have written you a ticket but rather escorted you to the hospital or called for an urgent ambulance.
Yeah, but speed cameras don’t account for true emergencies. They just print the ticket and send it. Then, two weeks after you bury your wife, you get a $40 slap in the face.
by Tezcatlipoca on Dec 20, 2011 12:42 PM EST up reply actions
So...
is your argument that because every 100,000 drivers who get a camera ticket might have some legitimate reason to be speeding, they shouldn’t have speed cameras???
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
If the people who ultimately adjudicate the cases will not allow for any extenuating circumstances whatsoever...
…then no, I don’t think they should have speed cameras.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Dec 20, 2011 12:45 PM EST up reply actions
What EME said.
The cameras don’t piss me off nearly as much as the system that is adjudicating / administering their usage.
by Tezcatlipoca on Dec 20, 2011 12:47 PM EST up reply actions
I'm still not clear why the circumstances were extenuating
Ambulance seems like the way to go.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
What is a circumstance where you think a person should be excused from paying a speed camera fine?
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Dec 20, 2011 12:51 PM EST up reply actions
So, if a person's life is in danger...
… say, rushing my wife to the hospital while h she is holding a towel to a gushing head wound, would justify me being excused from a speed camera ticket
by Tezcatlipoca on Dec 20, 2011 12:58 PM EST up reply actions
Well
I personally think that’s what ambulances are for.
If you encounter a gun wielding murderer while on the highway I don’t see how anything other than getting away from them as fast as possible would help.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
getting chased by an abusive partner or spouse intent on killing you
basically anything like that where your immediate well-being is in danger and fleeing at high speeds is a reasonable action to remove yourself from danger.
Fleeing a tsunami wave, stuff like that.
I would love
If someone lost in court after their defense was that they were fleeing from an actual tsunami wave.
by mdterps0325 on Dec 20, 2011 12:55 PM EST up reply actions
Phil, you're definitely keeping it consistent here.
I think that the allowances for crazy stuff should be more generous than that, but I respect your position.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Dec 20, 2011 12:59 PM EST up reply actions
I'm always on the lookout for highway turnarounds in case I see a mushroom cloud in the distance
gotta be vigilant out there and be ready to high-tail it the other way in no time.
Apparently, being a police officer is justification for not paying fines.
http://www.stopbigbrothermd.org/2011/02/lawmakers-want-to-remove-police.html#more
House Bill 1205 adds the provision “RECORDED IMAGES OF A LAW ENFORCEMENT VEHICLE MAY NOT BE THE BASIS FOR A CIVIL PENALTY OR THE ISSUANCE OF A CITATION UNDER THIS SECTION.”
There have been numerous cases of police in Montgomery County being caught speeding on camera. The county did in fact issue citations when they decided the police were not responding to emergencies, however the Police Union encouraged its members not to pay the tickets and several police challenged them. An appeals court at first ruled in the cops favor, stating that their due process rights had been violated and it was not reasonable for polcie to recall whether they were responding to a call or not weeks later, but this decision was then overturned by the state’s highest court. HB 1205 would seem to settle the matter once and for all: exempting all police from speed and red light camera tickets whether they are responding to emergencies or not.
by Tezcatlipoca on Dec 20, 2011 12:57 PM EST up reply actions
It looks like it was sent back to committee in March and will be reproposed in 2012.
by Tezcatlipoca on Dec 20, 2011 1:04 PM EST up reply actions
So I'll save my disgust for when it actually means something.
Tons of offensive things are proposed all the time.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
As it stands right now...
… cops are getting caught on speed camera tickets flipping off the cameras and not paying the fines.
by Tezcatlipoca on Dec 20, 2011 1:08 PM EST up reply actions
Eh
If this bill never passes all they are doing is racking up fees/penalties and eventually they’re credit will be destroyed. That’s their route if they choose to take it – you could do the same.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
If you made the decision to speed
it’s not a slap in the face. You did what you had to do and you’d do it again for fifty times that price if you had to.
It's an example of the zero tolerance that influenced by the corporate backing of the system
And it will only get worse.
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Dec 20, 2011 12:21 PM EST up reply actions
That seems like a skeptics point of view
to me it seems like the law applying consistently to everybody.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Your point of view seems very shortsighted, IMHO
In addition to applying the laws evenly to everyone, they are making them more strict every single day and making the penalties harsher.
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Dec 20, 2011 12:26 PM EST up reply actions
Penalties harsher??
$40 and no points is the opposite of harsh. The laws are being more consistently applied (you’ll never again see some asshole speeding by you at 80 after being pulled over for 75) and with more appropriate penalties.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
At what dollar amount would you start to think that unfettered camera fines are unfair?
What if it was a $100 fine? What if it was $250? $500?
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Dec 20, 2011 12:30 PM EST up reply actions
Whatever that dollar amount is, I guarantee it will be slowly raised to exactly that until riots are on the verge of starting
See: toll roads
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by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Dec 20, 2011 12:32 PM EST up reply actions
You're probably right...
But toll roads (except for those greedy little whores in Delaware) typically exist to fund particularly expensive roads and maintenance. As maintenance costs go up, toll costs will too.
by Tezcatlipoca on Dec 20, 2011 12:33 PM EST up reply actions
Tolls are OK with me as long as they ain't going to the general fund.
Generally speaking.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Dec 20, 2011 12:36 PM EST up reply actions
I agree with that.
I still have some reservations about tolls being generally more oppressive on low income earners, but at least they’re based on usage and therefore aren’t a true flat tax.
by Tezcatlipoca on Dec 20, 2011 12:42 PM EST up reply actions
Although...
I think lately, MD’s been raiding the highway fund for general fund purposes, so that’s not so good when combined with the toll increases. But I guess that’s life.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Dec 20, 2011 12:46 PM EST up reply actions
Let's face it, EME.
The world would be a better place if you and I were in charge, Pompeii / Caesar style.
by Tezcatlipoca on Dec 20, 2011 12:48 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, that's why I feel like I need to argue against the principle.
Over time they can nick it up by $10 increments or whatever, citing “increased administration costs” or who knows what. I feel like eventually it will be non-trivial.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Dec 20, 2011 12:34 PM EST up reply actions
But I mean what's the principle here?
By that line of thinking is there no appropriate fine or tax for anything because it will likely increase over time?
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Sales and income taxes are not cynical cash grabs where revenue goes directly to a corporation.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Dec 20, 2011 12:50 PM EST up reply actions
Let's not get carried away
it’s shared revenue between the corporation that developed and installed the technology and the government. If taxes required independently developed systems/technology to capture that would be shared with whatever organization developed them as well.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Do you believe in separation of Church and State?
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by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Dec 20, 2011 12:58 PM EST up reply actions
Don't tell me the Mormons are behind these cameras???
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
by O'sFan21 on Dec 20, 2011 1:02 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I like Germany's system...
Your civil fines are based on your income. A $40 fine is pretty stiff for a minimum wage worker, but pocket change to Kevin Gregg.
In Germany, they’re not raising revenue by “taxing” the poor. They’re looking for a deterrent to speeding. A couple years ago, one wealthy individual got a $35,000 speeding ticket.
by Tezcatlipoca on Dec 20, 2011 12:32 PM EST up reply actions
this
is awesome! 40 dollars is actually a lot to me, I’m a student.
by mdterps0325 on Dec 20, 2011 12:35 PM EST up reply actions
But doesn't that just mean
that you should be that much more careful about not getting them?
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
not the point
following the law is one thing. But it doesn’t make the rule right. The fact that one person has more money effectively allowing them to break a law more often seems dumb. I like the idea of the percentage idea, so it can hit everyones wallets. But this ould also cause corruption where the cameras and what not are only in rich areas.
by mdterps0325 on Dec 20, 2011 12:43 PM EST up reply actions
No.
Because then rich assholes get to do whatever they want because they can pay their way out of trouble.
I’ve lived with that in China. It pisses me off when I see it here in Maryland.
by Tezcatlipoca on Dec 20, 2011 12:43 PM EST up reply actions
Are you guys all too young to not know what it's like to actually get pulled over and given a ticket???
$40 and no points is fucking awesome
comparitively
yes, it is awesome. But cameras can accumulate far quicker, and to some people (myself included) paying 40 is still a decent amount. And if 40 isn’t a lot to you, thats even better for them. It means it is less of a deterrent, and more of a money grab.
by mdterps0325 on Dec 20, 2011 12:37 PM EST up reply actions
Interestingly enough...
In the past week I’ve received two speeding camera citations (of course for being 13 miles over, so right on the line). I didn’t even know that the cameras had been installed.
I suppose my issue with the cameras is related to the fact that the State is contacting out its duty to enforce laws to a private firm (who of course stands to benefit from giving out more citations). That penalties are lessened (both in dollar value and lack of points being assessed) only ensures that more tickets will be given with less resistance from taxpayers, as they now consider the penalty a nuisance not worth going to court, thus allowing the camera company to get away with more and more shady behavior.
‘Contrairiwise,’ continued Tweedledee, ‘if it was so, it might
be; and if it were so, it would be: but as it isn’t, it ain’t. That’s
logic.’ — Through the Looking Glass, Lewis Carroll
by TerroristFistJab on Dec 20, 2011 1:49 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
$100 would bother me
but on the other hand I’d probably stop getting them then.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
that example about the father dying
it’s sad and all, but he knew he was speeding to get there, right?
yeah... rights and responsibilities...
people are free to break laws whenever they want, but they have to take responsibility for it. The camera didn’t prevent the guy getting to his dying father… it just made him pay $40 for it.
Would it be better if he got pulled over by a cop, who maybe would’ve let him off with a warning, but would’ve delayed him getting there by another 10 minutes?
Okay Phil
When someone in your immediately family is on their death bed, and you get the call that they don’t have much time left, and you hope on your unicycle and chug over to Mercy as fast as you can, we’ll see if you are cognizant of the speed limits.
And when some conglomerate installs 7MPH speed cameras in the bike lanes and they catch you speeding that night, or a cop whose budget is inflated by corporate dollars pulls you over for something dumb like not crossing an intersection in the designated crosswalk area at 4AM, we’ll see how you feel when you go to court and they don’t let you off.
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Dec 20, 2011 12:25 PM EST up reply actions
And if Phil gets a speeding ticket in the mail a few weeks later for a measly $40
I think he’ll be ok with it.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Well, if you MUST know.
I am saying this without any malice or emotion or anything, so just know that this is an impassive explanation and not an attack or an escalation.
My father died at 58 in April 2010. He died due to complications from prostate cancer. It was a situation where he was in remission for three years and then took a precipitous decline. He basically went from being fully functional to dead in a two-week span. I remember going to the oncologist with him where the doctor explained the results of the latest tests, and the doc basically said you have a year to live. Two weeks later my father died.
ANYWAY, at the very end my father was at GBMC and it was obvious to everyone that he was not going to make it much longer. The palliative care workers talked to our family and just tried to get us prepared. Being from Carroll County, my mom and dad decided that my dad would spend out the rest of his time in hospice care in Westminster, so he was put in an ambulance and sent on his way. I drove separately. At this time it was thought he would survive for a few more days.
So I kind of took my time getting over there, picked up my GF etc. About halfway there on 140, my sister in law called. She had just arrived at the hospice and basically said get here as fast as you can, things are not looking good.
So I sped the rest of the way there. Not too much, but I was obviously a little frantic and made the decision that speeding to get there would outweigh any financial consequences of a speeding camera ticket etc. Being with my father for the final moments would obviously be worth even a $400 fine.
When I got there he had just died. I had just missed it.
So you know, it’s not like one person has a monopoly on tragedy.
Pretty much this same situation happened with my father and you have my condolences
And for the life of me, I can’t understand your stance at all given that you’ve been in an emergency situation. But no one has ever changed anyone’s mind on this website in history so live and let live I guess.
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Dec 20, 2011 12:43 PM EST up reply actions
my stance is not lock up speeders
my stance is that if you speed, you better be willing to pay. I was.
And my stance is that there should be fair trials for cases of extenuating circumstances of any crime, not just speeding
And that this will no longer be the case if privatization gets out of hand. See here.
I’m now getting word that a panel of judges has declared Team AMD/EME/Tez the winners of this argument. I’m going to lunch. I love you all.
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Dec 20, 2011 12:54 PM EST up reply actions
Lies.
But no one has ever changed anyone’s mind on this website in history so live and let live I guess.
When I first got here, y’all thought I was a total douchebag… but now every last one of you loves me. Minds. Changed.
/lawyer’d
by Tezcatlipoca on Dec 20, 2011 12:44 PM EST up reply actions
until last week, when I got nabbed by one of the "roving" cameras,
I would’ve strongly disagreed with that statement. Most cameras come with plenty of warning.. . the speed limit signs clearly say “photo enforced” on them, and they are pretty easy to pick out on the side of the road.
The work zone highway cameras almost always have a courtesy radar just before the camera that lets you know your speed. If you get caught at one of those, it’s your own damn fault.
Yeah, the cameras on 695 are pretty fair.
I don’t know about what’s up with any of these rinky-dink PG County municipality cameras though. They could be a lot more messed up, and it sounds like they are.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Dec 20, 2011 12:22 PM EST up reply actions
but that's all in the hands of the judge, right?
I went to traffic court in october and the guy was handing out PBJs like it was his business, unless the defendants had already been given a break by the cop.
Tommy hunter still sucks!
thats cause
they were actual pull overs, not those sneaky fuck-tard cameras. I have paid $160 dollars to the city of college park in the last year. And they spend it on cops to shut down a party that I am at. viscous cycle
by mdterps0325 on Dec 20, 2011 10:49 AM EST up reply actions
Charlottesville is the same way about parking tickets.
I swear parking tickets are that city’s only source of revenue….or at least that’s the illusion they give off.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Dec 20, 2011 10:50 AM EST up reply actions
This
I’ve been to court for being pulled over by a cop also, and they let almost everyone off. Most people just pleaded “Guilty with explanation” and had a clean record and said they were sorry and got off.
Not with the big business flunkie there though. We can all make inferences from The Wire. That judge will be doing circuit court in West Baltimore at the crack of dawn for the rest of her life if she doesn’t gain revenue for the contracted company.
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Dec 20, 2011 11:19 AM EST up reply actions
Making a mental note to avoid speed cameras.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Dec 20, 2011 10:47 AM EST up reply actions
Speed Cameras
http://www.stopbigbrothermd.org/
They’re the biggest racket going on in Maryland right now. They intentionally set up permanent “construction zones” where there is no actual construction so that they can lower the speed limit under the guidelines for that stretch of road and catch people who set their cruise control at 5 mph over.
I remember seeing that out of some 75,000 tickets issued in Montgomery County in 2010, single digits were overturned.
by Tezcatlipoca on Dec 20, 2011 10:52 AM EST up reply actions
I'm glad I never use cruise control.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Dec 20, 2011 10:56 AM EST up reply actions
Unfortunately, I often used cruise control to avoid speeding in the first place.
by Tezcatlipoca on Dec 20, 2011 10:57 AM EST up reply actions
I only use cruise control to intentionally speed.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Dec 20, 2011 10:59 AM EST up reply actions
seconded.
i thought it would be safe..apparently not.
"I don't have an on-deck circle for ideas. It's just 'Batter up!!' Even though they're bad" - Mike Birbiglia
by Parkinglotninja on Dec 20, 2011 10:59 AM EST up reply actions
Read that website I posted. There's crazy shit going on with speed cameras.
Man Arrested Challenging Speed Camera Ticket
The number of errors reported with speed cameras is huge, yet one Maryland judge has ruled that you can’t even legally use the pictures they send you of your speeding to exonerate yourself. Judges have also ruled that the camera companies don’t even have to send an expert to the hearing, a violation of your right to face your accuser.
Also, the legislation Maryland passed says that the camera operating company can’t receive a percentage of the fines, because that creates an incentive for corruption. Every contract signed in Maryland so far includes just such a provision.
by Tezcatlipoca on Dec 20, 2011 11:04 AM EST up reply actions
one of my policy holders
got a speed camera ticker in PG county earlier this year, except it wasnt on his car. It was clearly a different car but the plates almost matched. There was a little glare and they mistook that plate number for his. Anyway he got the ticket and was outraged. He called and argued with the woman at the Police dept (who i suppose handled complaints) and she told him he had three options:
1) pay the $50 ticket
2) pay $30 to have it reviewed
3)take it to court.
he ended up having to drive back down there and pay court costs to prove it wasnt even him.
ridiculous times everyone, ridiculous times…
"I don't have an on-deck circle for ideas. It's just 'Batter up!!' Even though they're bad" - Mike Birbiglia
by Parkinglotninja on Dec 20, 2011 11:14 AM EST up reply actions
There's no less than two cameras over a span of 1/2 mile on a road next to my apartment.
Speed cameras piss me off more than the fucking Yankees.
The one and only place I don’t completely object to speed cameras is in school zones.
by Tezcatlipoca on Dec 20, 2011 11:16 AM EST up reply actions
I believe in MD they've defined "school zone" rather broadly
To the extent that you can have a camera in a “school zone” (like within a half-mile or something) but not be anywhere near a school.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Dec 20, 2011 11:19 AM EST up reply actions
Well, kids who walk to school could conceivably be crossing the street within that radius
Even if it’s not a road you’d take to get to that school.
Tommy hunter still sucks!
Yeah there were maybe 3 people with that exact same problem. They are some of the only ones who got off.
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Dec 20, 2011 11:21 AM EST up reply actions
So the state is getting 100% of the ticket fee?
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Dec 20, 2011 11:21 AM EST up reply actions
No, I believe the local jurisdiction typically gets 60% and the company 40%.
by Tezcatlipoca on Dec 20, 2011 11:21 AM EST up reply actions
something like that
they are going to get there money one way or the other…
"I don't have an on-deck circle for ideas. It's just 'Batter up!!' Even though they're bad" - Mike Birbiglia
by Parkinglotninja on Dec 20, 2011 11:23 AM EST up reply actions
Multiple jurisdictions are now collecting more (sometimes 90%) in camera fees than their entire budget pre-camera.
I’m lookin’ at you, Forest Heights.
by Tezcatlipoca on Dec 20, 2011 11:26 AM EST up reply actions
Well... on highways the cameras are set to go off if you're 12 mph over by law.
Good luck proving you weren’t going that fast if it happens to be wrong though.
Apparently, you can get a solid calculation of your speed from the pictures they send you.

Math plus pictures is win. However, not all judges will accept this. Speed camera judges are the absolute lowest of the low when it comes to any legal-related profession. In fact, they’re little more than prostitutes… and not even the prostitute-with-the-heart-of-gold. Just dirty $5 Haitian dock whores.
by Tezcatlipoca on Dec 20, 2011 11:08 AM EST up reply actions
Nobody is getting a ticket for going 5 mph the posted speed limit
Or did you mean 5 mph over the non-construction zone speed limit?
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
That's what he means...
When 5 over suddenly becomes 15 over.
We’ve got unapologetic speed traps like that here is FL. If you are driving down a rural highway, and there is a small town. The speed limit quickly drops from 60 to 45. And you’ll get pulled over for 47. So you have to go exactly the speed limit and make sure you pay attention to all signs. Then you see some fool with out of state plates go whizzing past… and pass them pulled over in the next town.
"Tiger got to hunt, bird got to fly; Man got to sit and wonder 'why, why, why?' Tiger got to sleep, bird got to land; Man got to tell himself he understand.."
But that's what it is - 15 over.
I’ve never heard of anybody getting pulled over for <5 over and actually getting a ticket.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
I did.
No joke. I’ve got a 40mph road that leads over to where my house it. Apparently it’s a popular place for kids to drag race (3 high schools in the area), so they’ve started cracking down. Got a ticket for 44. The speed limit on that street used to be 45 too.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Dec 20, 2011 12:17 PM EST up reply actions
I find this very hard to believe.
Did you have an “I hate cops” bumper sticker?
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
by O'sFan21 on Dec 20, 2011 12:20 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Yep....that's exactly it.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Dec 20, 2011 12:21 PM EST up reply actions
Totally agree
He was just saying that people set their cruise control to 70 when the SL is 65… but they don’t take it off when suddenly the SL becomes 55 because of a construction zone. They are trying to catch the lazy cruisers.
"Tiger got to hunt, bird got to fly; Man got to sit and wonder 'why, why, why?' Tiger got to sleep, bird got to land; Man got to tell himself he understand.."
Again agreed.
I was just clarifying what I thought he meant.
I got two speeding tickets when I was younger. Both going 82 in a 65 in the right hand lane, moving with traffic, observing acceptable following distances, in sunny weather. I don’t go 82 anymore, much to the chagrin of my wife, who calls me a grandpa driver.
I generally go 75-78 in a 70 zone. If I get pulled over once for going that fast, I won’t do that anymore, either.
"Tiger got to hunt, bird got to fly; Man got to sit and wonder 'why, why, why?' Tiger got to sleep, bird got to land; Man got to tell himself he understand.."
I've gotten lots of camera tickets
both red light and speeding haha. The only times I’ve gotten pulled over were for a 42 in a 25 about 3 weeks after I got my license and then for a 67 in a 45 about 6 years ago where the speed limit dropped from 55 to 45 very quickly. The 42 in a 25 was kind of funny because the cop had already pulled somebody else over so I was sort of swerving to go around him and didn’t realize he was trying to pull me over. He was not happy.
I basically try not to be the fastest car on the road and stay out of the left lane unless I’m passing. I still go mostly 15 over on the highway though…
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
FWIW
Apparently a councilman in Baltimore is pushing hard for a law that they would not be able to issue citations if work is not going on in the areas. That would be something at least.
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Dec 20, 2011 11:31 AM EST up reply actions
small wins
In all fairness, I have a friend in ABQ, where there is a speeding camera on like every light, so they get hit with fines even more than here.
by mdterps0325 on Dec 20, 2011 11:34 AM EST up reply actions
What's ABQ?
Also it appears this legislation has been shot down according to the website Taz posted above. Shocker. Also the person who gave me a scholarship to UMD was a main sponsor of the initial speed camera bill, which saddens me.
Be careful in CP man, those cops will fuck you every single chance they get. I had a cop pull me over for rolling through one stop sign in Old Town and he started making fun of and making extremely racially insensitive comments towards me while his partner was laughing (him black, me white). He wrote me a $300 ticket for negligent driving and 3 points on my license, and then was lying in court and saying he had trailed me all the way through campus. Had to go to court and get out of it and he was lying in court.
Make sure you know your rights, especially if you’re throwing parties.
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Dec 20, 2011 11:43 AM EST up reply actions
Albequerque
No idea if that is spelled right. ABQ is easier.
by mdterps0325 on Dec 20, 2011 11:45 AM EST up reply actions
Negative
Now that all my fall shows are over maybe I’ll get to it.
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Dec 20, 2011 11:47 AM EST up reply actions
I said A (a) l (l) b (b) u (u) ... ... ... querque (QUERQUE!)
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Dec 20, 2011 11:46 AM EST up reply actions
Longass but funny song.
"Human beings make life so interesting. Do you know, that in a universe so full of wonders, they have managed to invent boredom?" ~ Death
Airport code
"Human beings make life so interesting. Do you know, that in a universe so full of wonders, they have managed to invent boredom?" ~ Death
I got pulled over in College Park...
Be careful in CP man, those cops will fuck you every single chance they get.
It was 2:00am and I was heading home from my girlfriend’s. Guy said I was doing 40 in a 35, which was entirely possible. He made it clear he was looking for trouble though when he gave me a hard time about driving barefoot (I had been wearing sandals I kick them off when I drive so they don’t get stuck in the peddles) and the fact that I had pink eye (apparently he thought I was high).
by Tezcatlipoca on Dec 20, 2011 11:52 AM EST up reply actions
I know one CP cop
He graduated from umd, super nice. With the exception of him, they are the scum of the earth. College Park is so corrupt because half their population won’t be there long enough to vote for any of the politicians.
They honestly think that the high crime rate is due to house parties. Any time you blame the victim you are fucking dumb. Its (kind of) like blaming a drunk girl for being sexually assaulted.
by mdterps0325 on Dec 20, 2011 12:00 PM EST up reply actions
They make tons of money off of busting house parties
Not so much off of arrested hood rats who take the Metro to CP to rob college kids.
It’s all about the dollars man.
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Dec 20, 2011 12:02 PM EST up reply actions
this
Is the entire problem summed up. Makes me wanna vote red. And I am in college, man
by mdterps0325 on Dec 20, 2011 12:09 PM EST up reply actions
Wait until you start paying property taxes
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Dec 20, 2011 12:12 PM EST up reply actions
They're going down all the time in my county
Of course, we’re gonna have to close some schools next year and we may go to a 4 day week and kill all HS sports, but hey, lower taxes!!!!
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
by duck on Dec 20, 2011 1:40 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
This sounds like the plot of Hung
Have you considered being a Happiness Consultant?
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Dec 20, 2011 1:42 PM EST up reply actions
that's a shame
I’ve found the easiest way not to get speeding tickets is to not speed, but that’s just me.
It's hard to get your tricycle above 55 isnt it?
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Dec 20, 2011 11:38 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
55 is hard unless you're on a big hill
but if you’re biking through a small town with a 25 or 30 mph speed limit, it’s usually pretty easy to meet or exceed it on a flat or a gradual decline. It’s always fun to do that, because if I’m biking the speed limit I just take the lane.
not that I've done any serious biking in the past year
I have a bum knee at the moment, so I’ve been a cager just like the rest of you for the past 13 months. Still don’t find it hard to stay at or around the speed limit.
Somebody going 70 in the left lane on 695 on a clear Saturday in May is speeding, but they're not doing any harm to anyone.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Dec 20, 2011 11:49 AM EST up reply actions
Sure
I’m not arguing that one mile over the speed limit makes you a terrible person who deserves to die. I’m just saying that 70 is over the speed limit and if you get a ticket, I don’t really see how you can complain about it.
I guess that's fair.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Dec 20, 2011 11:55 AM EST up reply actions
Do you think there's a reasonable amount of "over" to give as a grace?
The cameras that are set to give 12mph over the posted speed, for instance, don’t offend me as much – unless the speed changes right before the camera zone.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Dec 20, 2011 11:59 AM EST up reply actions
It depends on a few factors...
There are engineering standards based on entrances to the road, grade, turning radius, and potential obstacles that determine what an appropriate speed limit should be. Many follow these standards, but many jurisdictions don’t.
Generally speaking, if speed limits were actually set based on accurate engineering studies, then I’d say that anything over 5mph over should be ticketed. However, because they’re not, I’d say that 5mph – 15mph leeways are reasonable based upon officer discretion. Of course, discretion is not generally good when it comes to civil fines.
As an example, I-95 drops to 55mph in Baltimore. The only place it should be that low is at the tunnel. Other than that, it should be 70 or 75 based on the road conditions. On the other hand, I-70 is generally much better about maintaining a correct speed limit for its course in Maryland.
by Tezcatlipoca on Dec 20, 2011 12:03 PM EST up reply actions
Good point
I would also point out that many limits haven’t been changed in decades, but cars (and roads) have. They have become much safer and much more capable of operating efficiently at higher speeds.
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Dec 20, 2011 12:06 PM EST up reply actions
it also has to do with being in court
A good lawyer can probably find some reason the 5 mph is badly measured. Human error, Radar gun error, bias, etc. 11 makes it so that is less of the case.
by mdterps0325 on Dec 20, 2011 12:07 PM EST up reply actions
I don't know
for good drivers I agree that the speed limits are often too low, but given the level of skill that I encounter on a daily basis, I don’t really want those people to be making their already terrible decisions with even less margin for error.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Seriously.
People around here are freakin scary drivers.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Dec 20, 2011 12:10 PM EST up reply actions
I think that's reasonable
there obviously has to be a bit of leeway because speedometers are imprecise due to a lot of factors, so there has to be a buffer zone. I think 12 is probably on the high side but I’m personally okay with it if that’s what they’re set at.
But still, if a speed camera is set at a lower buffer, or a cop is being a hardass and ticketing for 5 over… my response is too bad. I was listening to the radio this morning and some Maryland State Police trooper was talking about how when it comes to drunk driving prevention efforts, focusing on the financial effects of getting a DUI is much more effective than highlighting the human tragedies that could occur. I.e. if you say you could kill a child by driving drunk, people care much less than if you say you could lose $30,000 in lawyer fees and fines if you drive drunk.
That’s why I am not against speed cameras. Wanna speed? You’ll just have to pay. And for most people, that’s the most effective deterrent.
drunk driving and speeding
are entirely different monsters. I argue that going ten over doesn’t correlate to me being more dangerous. Me being hammered obviously does. And I take the idea that financial restrictions work better with a grain of salt, because the prime beneficiares of said restrictions are also the ones telling me it is beneficial.
by mdterps0325 on Dec 20, 2011 12:23 PM EST up reply actions
wouldn't it stand to reason
that those who think they’re skilled enough to drive 90 in a 65 would also think they’re skilled enough to drive drunk? If you think you’re hot shit behind the wheel, that’s going to influence every decision you make, sober or not. It’s a destructive and immature mindset. And I don’t mean immature as a pejorative, but as a description of inexperienced, young drivers who think they know it all.
I don't think
that this is the case. I don’t think I am a hot shot at all, I think that speeding’s correlation to accidents is much less than driving drunk and accidents. And as I said below, 90 was a hyperbole.
by mdterps0325 on Dec 20, 2011 12:28 PM EST up reply actions
And
I think that the punishment outweighs the crime. Which, as a deterrant to said crime, is proven to not work. Drunk Driving, on the other hand, is the opposite. I believe any DUI should result in a loss of license for an extended period. I have heard they do this in Germany and it is highly effective. But that will never happen.
by mdterps0325 on Dec 20, 2011 12:33 PM EST up reply actions
They're pushing for immediate loss of license in MD
Right now it’s like, second offense I think
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Dec 20, 2011 12:34 PM EST up reply actions
going 90
at 3 am on 695, or 70, is like driving on the autobahn. Wide open road, the hazard just isn’t there. Is there even proof that speeding is directly correlated to accidents? I pay attention more when I speed, because I know that I am driving more dangerously, which in effect, makes it safer. At 55 I feel compelled to text or do something else dangerous.
by mdterps0325 on Dec 20, 2011 11:55 AM EST up reply actions
This makes me sound like a god awful driver
But in earnest, I have never been in an accident, and have only gotten speeding tickets on cameras.
by mdterps0325 on Dec 20, 2011 11:56 AM EST up reply actions
I know you were shooting for sarcasm
This makes you seem awful
At 55 I feel compelled to text or do something else dangerous.
by IggesRule13 on Dec 20, 2011 11:58 AM EST up reply actions
I was
But honestly, at the speed limit my attention is much less on the road than it is at a higher speed.
by mdterps0325 on Dec 20, 2011 12:01 PM EST up reply actions
I think you take your lightning fast, young adult reflexes for granted
Like Nick Markakis, you are in the best shape of your life. I work with 70 year old people with terrible vision who can’t pull out of a parking spot in under two minutes.
I’ve got no problem with speed limits, only with money hungry corporations influencing public affairs. I think Michael Moore is a stupid, fat, stupid, obnoxious, stupid white man, but watch “Capitalism: A Love Story.” There’s great examples of privatization gone awry, notably a judge in Pennsylvania who was sending teenagers to a Juvy that was privatized for terribly miniscule offenses, and was later found to be getting paid for it.
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Dec 20, 2011 12:00 PM EST up reply actions
this is fair
I think as a young person my I think that everyone has the reaction time that I do. Good point
by mdterps0325 on Dec 20, 2011 12:04 PM EST up reply actions
your response is why I'm glad there are speed cameras
you’re young and you think you’re invincible, and you’re a hazard to everyone else on the road. I don’t want it to seem like I’m singling you out, but I’m assuming you’re largely a self-taught driver like the rest of us and you aren’t a professional race car driver. You think you’re a lot better than you actually are, and driving 90 at 3am is putting everyone else on that road at risk. As I said above, highlighting the human carnage that you could be responsible for just doesn’t make most people drive more responsibly, but the threat of omnipresent speed cameras that will hit your wallet will most likely convince you to cool your jets.
actually
I drive busses, so I am a professional driver of sorts, lol. And I never actually go 90, its a hyperbole. My point is rather that speeding does not correlate to recklessness. going fast on an empty, as in literally empty, road is not dangerous to anyone but yourself. And going 40 in a 30 and getting a 40 dollar fine makes no one safer, it just raises money.
by mdterps0325 on Dec 20, 2011 12:19 PM EST up reply actions
I retract my assumption then
More trained drivers on the road, the better. So I apologize for that.
But 40 in a 30 is absolutely more dangerous in residential areas and small towns, where you’re more likely to encounter pedestrians. If you don’t care about pedestrians, fine. To be honest, I wish that $40 fine would’ve been tripled so it’s not as easy to pay and forget about it.
i guess you have to see the road
But it is commercial, not residential, because there is more high traffic that way. No one would be dumb enough to run across it without a light. And if you aren’t siting on your brake it is really easy to drift over 40. complete money grab.
by mdterps0325 on Dec 20, 2011 12:26 PM EST up reply actions
I got one of my two speeding tickets for going 73 in a 55 at 2 am.
Come on. Nobody around except me and the cop.
I think it's more about reaction time in case something funky happens.
Car malfunction, or something happening on the road ahead of you – another car malfunctioning, truck loses its load, deer runs across the highway. You know, crazy shit like that.
I pretty much top out at 77mph in a 70 and I try to keep a good buffer between myself and other cars. Past that and I wouldn’t feel like I could tell myself I was driving safely.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Dec 20, 2011 12:02 PM EST up reply actions
I've hit 95 on I-95...
The hood on my car was starting to jiggle, though, so I pulled back to 80. I would never do that now. I think cops crack down on it more and there is a point at which you’re just being stupid.
I was stupid when I was 18.
by Tezcatlipoca on Dec 20, 2011 12:06 PM EST up reply actions
ive hit 132 on i-68
It was scary, and i mean scary. Like signing Melvin Mora to a 6 yr 125mil deal scary.
i was stupid when i was 22.
"I don't have an on-deck circle for ideas. It's just 'Batter up!!' Even though they're bad" - Mike Birbiglia
by Parkinglotninja on Dec 20, 2011 12:17 PM EST up reply actions
you mean that blue and red sign wasn't the speed limit?
My bad, officer.
by mdterps0325 on Dec 20, 2011 12:29 PM EST up reply actions
Tailgating and reckless lane-changing...
… are far more dangerous than any given speed, in a vacuum. Yet, these are almost never enforced. It pisses me off more than speed cameras (well, equally pissed off with intentionally screwed up speed cameras that are used to generate profit).
by Tezcatlipoca on Dec 20, 2011 12:05 PM EST up reply actions
I didn't read the whole comment thread in full
But I know that in Montgomery County they don’t let you waste the court’s time because they have visual proof that you’ve broken the law. I don’t think they even let you go to court, and it’s not worth it if you do. They’ve got clear proof. You can’t refute it.
Contrary to popular belief, I am not Jewish.
the one post
showed a website stating there are numerous errors on the cameras. But in PG, you can contest. It costs you a 33 dollar court fee. the ticket is 40 dollars. AKA, why bother.
by mdterps0325 on Dec 20, 2011 12:47 PM EST up reply actions
man, things are pretty serious around here today...
flying cat fail!

clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...
by Gamecock24 on Dec 20, 2011 12:42 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
Cats don't think.
They just fucking do.
by Tezcatlipoca on Dec 20, 2011 12:45 PM EST up reply actions
This is so true.
My neighbor’s cat likes to hang out on the cul-de-sac, and I once saw her go after a raccoon in our garden. This isn’t a fucking mouse… a ’coon can fight back, smart one!
Contrary to popular belief, I am not Jewish.
Then, I introduce you to Loki!
I shit you not, he got out a 9 and 1 before I took the phone away.
by Tezcatlipoca on Dec 20, 2011 12:51 PM EST up reply actions
I didn't want to get yelled at for screwing up the thread. :-(
BIG CAT!

by Tezcatlipoca on Dec 20, 2011 1:00 PM EST up reply actions
Hibernating, you say?

Loki is not a fan of winter:

It does give him time to catch up on his Camden Chat, though.

by Tezcatlipoca on Dec 20, 2011 1:06 PM EST up reply actions
Massive post fail.
Meant to have this one in the middle…

by Tezcatlipoca on Dec 20, 2011 1:07 PM EST up reply actions
I think we should play some Risk.
That’ll cool the tensions.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Dec 20, 2011 12:46 PM EST up reply actions
I think we should go bash some speed cameras with baseball bats!
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
you have to yell out
who you are pretending to be when you hit it. Like yelling ‘Kobe’ before hitting a beer pong shot (too college? too bad). I will be Mark Reynolds, and take 8 whiffs before I fucking bash it 400 yards
by mdterps0325 on Dec 20, 2011 12:53 PM EST up reply actions
I'll yell "VLAD THE IMPALER!" as I weakly ground the camera about 30 feet.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Dec 20, 2011 1:01 PM EST up reply actions
Ill yell out "Bronson Arroyo"
as i throw it to you and you bash it 400 feet…
"I don't have an on-deck circle for ideas. It's just 'Batter up!!' Even though they're bad" - Mike Birbiglia
by Parkinglotninja on Dec 20, 2011 1:09 PM EST up reply actions
Id yell "Matusz"
And get everyone excited to see how awesome I can throw a camera. And then hit a police car with said camera, resulting in everyone being collectively fucked by the long dick of the law.
a game of world domination when tensions are high?
it will be a blood bath
but sure i’m in
clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...
wouldn't most of us have to sign a waiver
to hug a 12 year old?
clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...
by Gamecock24 on Dec 20, 2011 12:49 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Fuck you.
I’m 17, and that’s over the age of consent for hugging… and other stuff…
Contrary to popular belief, I am not Jewish.
i'm not going to touch that one with a ten foot pole
clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...
by Gamecock24 on Dec 20, 2011 12:51 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Haha nice
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Dec 20, 2011 12:56 PM EST up reply actions
Y'know
I’m barely over 5 feet tall. Watch out for your kneecaps.
Contrary to popular belief, I am not Jewish.
they wrote this book about you right?

i’m assuming you’re the jewish looking one shaking her fists and muttering profanities
clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...
by Gamecock24 on Dec 20, 2011 1:08 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
you have such low rec'ing standards
hopefully that doesn’t translate to other areas as well…
clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...
oh i'm not going there
but that doesn’t mean plenty of others haven’t already been
you’re really just setting them up on a tee at this point
clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...
This.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Dec 20, 2011 12:53 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
You still fail the 1/2+7 test...
But, I will provide you with hugs from my cat. It’s a fair compromise.
by Tezcatlipoca on Dec 20, 2011 12:52 PM EST up reply actions
That's for the best.
Something is rotten in the state of Denmark.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Dec 20, 2011 1:16 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
rec'd for literary reference
only three hours later. O, what a rogue and peasant slave am I.
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
they don't hug at whatever hipster college you're going to.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
if that place is anything like H&M
they’re waaay hipster.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
Every college has hipsters, though.
Well… okay, I don’t know. Maybe not BYU or Liberty University or something.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Dec 20, 2011 1:24 PM EST up reply actions
Sure they do
Kanye-imitatin’, sweater-and-bow-tie-wearin’ hipsters, but hipsters nonetheless.
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
from their fall/winter collection,
I’m guessing they don’t allow black people at F&M.
Except on the basketball team.
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
I found the speeding ticket discussion a little too long for my taste
But it’s not gonna stop me from talking about the real racket which is parking tickets in Baltimore City. I once got a ticket when parked directly in front of my house where I had a permit that I had already paid the city ffor so that I could have the right to park. But fighting the ticket would have involved taking half a day off of work and using my vacation time, so I just paid it, JUST LIKE THEY KNEW I WOULD.
by Stacey on Dec 20, 2011 12:59 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
I got about $300 worth of parking tickets at U of MD during my time there.
The only other parking ticket I got was in Bethesda. I parallel parked on a small one-lane side road facing the wrong direction.
by Tezcatlipoca on Dec 20, 2011 1:01 PM EST up reply actions
I got out of about a half dozen UMD parking tickets with the written explanation option
All bullshit excuses. Worth a shot
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Dec 20, 2011 1:13 PM EST up reply actions
yeah, plus they're such small dollar amounts it's like, do i really want to fight it?
starting a shit-fit over a $27 ticket isn’t really worth it. those bastards really know how to price those things cause like you said, THEY KNOW I’LL JUST PAY THE DAMN THING.
clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...
Screw that noise.
Hope it wasn’t expensive, because that’s crap.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Dec 20, 2011 1:03 PM EST up reply actions
$27, which isn't worth my time
The other time I really was mad at the city of Baltimore was when I worked a half day so I could go to Opening Day and when I got home there were so many cars parked illegally in my neighborhood that I really had nowhere to park. I drove all around my neighborhood and couldn’t find anything and was supposed to be meeting people in like a minute and didn’t wnat to drive over to the ghetto to park so I parked in a crosswalk (which I know is illegal!). When the game was over I went back to my car to move it and there was a ticket cop walking towards my car and I raced up and was like, “I’m moving it!” and she said “Too late” as she started writing the ticket. I was like, “This is my neighborhood! I was forced to park here because of all the other people parked illegally!” and she was like “Rules are rules” as she slapped the ticket down on my windshield. And those parking during stadium event tickets are no joke.
I learned my lesson, though. Never worked on Opening Day again.
isn't there a number you can call or something?
I’m sure a towing company wouldn’t have worried about speeding cameras as they sped to your neighborhood with ten or twenty tow trucks.
did she say rules ARE rules?
Because whenever I encounter a ticket person it’s “Rules is rules!”
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Back in February 2003, Maryland got slammed with a snow storm.
My apartment complex (on Kennilworth Ave in College Park) didn’t plow the lot, so I couldn’t put my car anywhere. I went to the desk and they said to park it in the back of the building where the dumpsters were and after the lot was plowed, just to move it then.
The next morning, I went down at 8:30am and my car was gone. The fuckers had towed it.
My best friend dressed up in a suit and carried a giant fucking briefcase into the impound lot (pretending to be my lawyer). About 45 seconds into his pseudo-legal mumbo jumbo speech, they released the car to me.
by Tezcatlipoca on Dec 20, 2011 1:13 PM EST up reply actions
Also: fuck the Yankees.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Dec 20, 2011 1:04 PM EST up reply actions
I bet the Yankees are responsible...
… for all parking tickets and speed camera tickets in Maryland.
Fucking whores.
by Tezcatlipoca on Dec 20, 2011 1:08 PM EST up reply actions
hmmm
Inflating the cost of baseball players → Orioles need to make more money → ok. someone pick it up from there. Find the missing link. it has to be their fault.
...
Yankees games draw large groups of fans → Camden Yards needs renovations → the Maryland Stadium Authority needs a quick couple of million → speeding cameras put in place → proceeds diverted to Maryland Stadium authority
by Tezcatlipoca on Dec 20, 2011 1:14 PM EST up reply actions
when I lived by the stadium the tow trucks always came out when the Red Sox and Yankees were in town
I once said something to a car full of Yankees fans about how they probably would get towed if they stayed there and the laughed at me. So later that evening when I saw the tow trucks patrolling my hood I got all EXCELLENT.

haha
They’re pretty bad in Arlington too, but sometimes they let you contest them remotely if you have evidence. Twice I just took a picture of my windshield with the ticket sitting about 18 inches from the valid permit. Idiots.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
nice
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Dec 20, 2011 1:05 PM EST up reply actions
that's actually something i'd expect from arlington
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Dec 20, 2011 1:05 PM EST up reply actions
They don't enforce parking at all on my side of town
Just sayin
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Dec 20, 2011 1:17 PM EST up reply actions
which is Canthighfellslandpoint?
who would want to brave all that mish-mash
clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...
Yeah, that thing
It’s good and bad.
The good speaks for itself. The bad, well… some examples are motherfuckers double park on main roads like Fayette, Wolfe, and Pratt during rush hour on a daily basis. Also this woman on my block double parks every single night for as long as she damn well pleases. I think she just sits the car in front of her house and waits for a spot to open up
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Dec 20, 2011 1:25 PM EST up reply actions
so my rant
the one-way street i live on now only requires a permit to park on one side of the street… the side opposite from my house. the parking authority won’t give me a permit or a guest pass since “it’s not required to park on my side of the street” even though every day when i get home from work, the spots on my side of the street are already filled and the other side is completely fucking open. luckily i still have my permit from my old place, so it has only been an issue for my roommate and not me, but my permit expires in… 11 days, so i’m going to be even more bitter about it then
/fuck the maryland parking authority
//end rant
clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...
yeah, i live further south about 5 or 6 blocks from most of the bars
one of the guys on my block started a petition to for them to require permit parking for our side of the street too, but knowing how long the city takes to process anything that will probably take another 18 months to get resolved
clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...
Ah
When I lived over there I was on Randall Street between Light and Charles, and we had permit parking but you just had to go a block or so in each direction to find not permit parking if you needed it.
The worst was when I lived in Fell’s Point. Forget about coming home after 8 p.m. because there were no permits and nowhere to park ever. I liked living in that neighborhood but I’d never go back without my own parking space.
I've seen enough in the past three years to just leave it at this:
I’d never go back without my own parking space.
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Dec 20, 2011 1:26 PM EST up reply actions
once time, at band camp...
i parked at metered spot, quickly used the ATM, and came back to ticket. i was literally gone for 2-3 minutes. thank you santa monica.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
look at the big brain on stacey.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
fuck... they're still up to that sheisty shit?
Several years ago, my wife had several tickets show up in the mail that were all fraudulent. She went to court with proof that she couldn’t have been where the ticket indicated she was and got berated by the judge.
Turns out, there were thousands of fake tickets issued by some officer. She would just write down a bunch of license plates, head back to the office and start mailing out tickets:
http://www.wbaltv.com/news/14548316/detail.html
The worst part about it is that the judge refused to hear my wife’s story (or stories from the other people in the courtroom) which could’ve stopped this sooner.
Traffic / parking judges...
… are scum. Absolutely fucking scum. They’re as bad as ambulance chasing lawyers. They probably were ambulance chasing lawyers at one point… from New Jersey… and Yankees fans.
by Tezcatlipoca on Dec 20, 2011 1:29 PM EST up reply actions
I always thought the joke was that traffic court judges were the C-students in law school.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Dec 20, 2011 1:32 PM EST up reply actions
Only if that law school was in Tijuana...
… and they were whoring on the side to pay their way through.
by Tezcatlipoca on Dec 20, 2011 1:39 PM EST up reply actions
Remember above when you said you changed everyone's mind about you being an asshole?
But seriously, you guys rag on Jersey a lot, but owning a car in Maryland sounds like a pretty horrible experience compared to what I live with.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
Me either
No emissions testing. Parking permits? Really? My road doesn’t have lines on it, let alone parking permits. I could open a used car lot on my front yard.
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
by duck on Dec 20, 2011 1:59 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
None on the Shore at all.
We’re exempted. I think it’s just Central MD and Baltimore area.
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Honestly, WHY should we have emissions testing?
We don’t have the population density to justify it. We could all be driving 1930 John Deere diesels and not spew enough emissions to matter.
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
True...
It does kind of make sense that the four people living on the Eastern Shore are exempt.
by Tezcatlipoca on Dec 20, 2011 2:05 PM EST up reply actions
You are right, it would be an inefficient waste of state money to build an emissions station where you live
They should make you drive two hours to the closest one :)
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Dec 20, 2011 2:05 PM EST up reply actions
Um, no.
Seriously, we’d all just refuse. What are they gonna do – suspend the license of everyone on the Eastern Shore? We’d all just drive anyway,. Have fun writing 130,000 tickets.
Seriously, that would be a pretty easy boycott to organize.
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
No emissions in St. Mary's county either.
Basically, if the state doesn’t build a station in your county you aren’t required to go to one.
Say no to Prince Fielder in 2012.
by Knubles and Bits on Dec 20, 2011 7:40 PM EST up reply actions
huh
Getting my emissions test doesn’t bother me anyway. They give you plenty of notice and it’s not expensive.
Hybrids don't need to get tested
Gives us more time to drink our Michelob Ultra’s and play with our iPads
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Dec 20, 2011 2:04 PM EST up reply actions
My emissions test was easy.
Did it at lunch one day and it took all of 10 minutes.
by Tezcatlipoca on Dec 20, 2011 2:05 PM EST up reply actions
Serously
If your car was made in this century they simply plug it in for two minutes and then you can go.
Tommy hunter still sucks!
the fact that he drives a horse and buggy?
or the fact that he doesn’t have electricity…..
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
Where on the horse do they plug it in?
…
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
I'm rather happy we have emissions testing in NJ
and it’s free and only happens every 2 years, so I’m good with it.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
Showing general disdain for New Jersey is what made all the Marylanders like me. :-D
(That being said, my wife’s cousin lives just outside of Princeton on a horse farm and it’s gorgeous.)
by Tezcatlipoca on Dec 20, 2011 1:55 PM EST up reply actions
My turn to rage! When I first moved to Florida, I went to the beach and fed the meter.
Well within the amount of time I had left on my meter, I am walking back to my car. There is a meter maid writing me up. So I’m pissed. I go up to my meter expecting to see it flashing. I thought the racket was ‘The meter reads 30 minutes, but runs out in about 25." Nope, I’ve still got time. So why is she writing me a ticket?
Expired tags… Except I had NJ plates. And they aren’t expired. They are just different than FL plates that show the month in large numbers and the year in small numbers. NJ has the month in small letters, and the year in large numbers. And NJ had just stopped sending the decals anyway as a cost cutting measure, so even if they were past their date (which they weren’t) it wouldn’t have meant that my tags were expired.
I have never been so pissed, and she was still there printing it out when I came up, so I very politely, but aggressively disagreed with her assessment of the situation. Let her know the mistake she had made. And gently suggested that she not give out tickets on matters that she knows nothing about. She said, ‘Well, once the ticket is entered I can’t take it back, so you have to take it up with the court.’
So you fucked up, gave me a bs ticket for something that, 1) why is a meter maid even giving tickets for in the first place? and 2) I caught you before you finished, and you are still making me take time out of my day to follow up to rectify your stupidity?
"Tiger got to hunt, bird got to fly; Man got to sit and wonder 'why, why, why?' Tiger got to sleep, bird got to land; Man got to tell himself he understand.."
did you pay it?
My friend got a few parking tickets in Boston in 2003 when we went to Fenway to see an O’s game up there. He just threw ’em away. I think he did the same thing for a few speeding tickets he got in New York when we were driving back from Montreal.
Hmmm
He may not want to do much driving in MA or NY any time soon.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Yeah that may work
I mean it’s not like there’s an APB out for him or anything, but if he gets pulled over for speeding or he gets ticketed for something else they’re going to pop up and they’ll likely just tow his car.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
No, I didn't pay.
I had to make several phone calls, a few photocopies and sent in an exception form.
They never sent me anything in return, and I haven’t been hauled to jail in the last 7 years, so I think I’m all good.
"Tiger got to hunt, bird got to fly; Man got to sit and wonder 'why, why, why?' Tiger got to sleep, bird got to land; Man got to tell himself he understand.."
A DC meter-individual ticketed me for an expired VA Inspec sticker.
I said Oh, good try! But sorry, not your jurisdiction— tore it up and walked away. Never heard another word.
We still suck, but on Sept. 29, 2011, we did a Very Cool Thing. Yeah, we did that.
That exact thing happened to my coworker
Which she told me about, at length, when I got back from court today. It was slightly more painstaking for her, but she eventually got out of it too.
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Dec 20, 2011 2:03 PM EST up reply actions
Plus they're not going to extradite you from Moscow for an unpaid parking ticket.
Well… I assume.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Dec 20, 2011 2:04 PM EST up reply actions
so i skipped over a bunch of stuff about speeding tickets
so i can say that that (a) WTF is Nick doing at Target. Get to the gym you bum, and (b) you people should be stuffing your cart like it’s going out of style.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
by birdman on Dec 20, 2011 1:07 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
I just realized I totally killed an hour of work time arguing speeding tickets.
Except I totally got paid for it, because I didn’t have to take time off to go to court.
#Winning
That's kind of half the reason I brought it up
It was fun and I ain’t got shit to do all week.
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Dec 20, 2011 1:17 PM EST up reply actions
speaking of fun
what the hell was your point about church and state?
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Just my main point about privatization
No group should be directly influencing government policy (I know campaign contributions blah blah blah).
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Dec 20, 2011 1:29 PM EST up reply actions
How are they influencing government?
They are just fulfilling a contract. Maybe they are lobbying for laws about cameras, but I don’t see how it’s particularly offensive. No different than boeing or northrop grummon, is it?
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
I have a crim exam
And I spent all my time argueing about tickets. Oh well, at least it is just crim.
i have at 10 page paper to write by 6PM on Friday
and i have written 0 pages so far due to this lovely debate today. woohoo for grad school
clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...
Yeah, I actually have a massive amount of work to get done this week...
… and totally blew an hour straight here.
Whoops.
by Tezcatlipoca on Dec 20, 2011 1:23 PM EST up reply actions
What is this crap?
Suddenly we’re off pictures of cute animals and onto other topics.
Back to the aminals!
i hate cats, dogs, koala bears, etc.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
i hate all attempts to anthropomorphize all animals.
and if you’re a follower of the boo the dog on facebook, that’s a fugly dog.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
How is finding that baby cubs are the most adorable things alive anthropomorphizing them?
Contrary to popular belief, I am not Jewish.
oh they're cute. i want to treat them like a baby and nurture them.
barf.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
Whoaaa
They’re really cute. That doesn’t mean I think it’s a good idea to take one or two home and raise them as house pets… or your own children.
Contrary to popular belief, I am not Jewish.
those animals don't represent love. remember that.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
I think you're drawing a lot more from...
… us liking to look at pictures of cute animals than you really should be.
by Tezcatlipoca on Dec 20, 2011 1:39 PM EST up reply actions
those animals won't fill the void in your life.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
Wha...!?!
1) No pictures fill a void in your life. If you’re referring to us liking to look at pictures of baby tigers and such, then you’re right, but it’s also irrelevant because none of us were claiming that looking at cute baby tigers fills a void in our lives.
2) As for my pets, they absolutely do provide companionship. When I moved to Korea, I didn’t know more than three words (hello, thank you, and beer) and didn’t know a single person that spoke English. Then I found Loki on a street in Seoul and took him home. It’s not too much hyperbole to say he saved my life, because that winter, I was starting to suffer from depression. He’s been with me ever since and he is absolutely a member of my family.
by Tezcatlipoca on Dec 20, 2011 1:49 PM EST up reply actions
When did I say that anything remotely close to that?
I understand that playing with them with your own two hands is not a good idea because at the end of the day, they’re wild animals and still very dangerous. But watching baby animals play with each other is fun and I don’t know why there’s anything wrong with that.
Contrary to popular belief, I am not Jewish.
it's all unconscious.
and what those animals symbolize.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
Not really.
I don’t want to raise them like babies. And whatever arguments people have against zoos, I think they serve a larger purpose than using animals as show and tell. They are heavily involved in preservation, and yeah, we get to view them and coo as they play with each other, but they’re not humans. They’re animals and it’s not a good idea to develop a relationship with a wild animal. That’s just common sense.
Contrary to popular belief, I am not Jewish.
Yeah that too.
People who keep exotic animals as pets are just plain stupid.
Contrary to popular belief, I am not Jewish.
It was so sad when they had to kill all of those animals in Ohio
when that weirdo was keeping them as pets and then set them loose on the town before killing himself. I hated that guy.
That was awful.
At first I was like, why didn’t they use tranquilizers? But apparently they tried and it didn’t work, and they had to kill some of the most endangered species on earth. Apparently he was abusing the animals before he commit suicide.
Contrary to popular belief, I am not Jewish.
they were able to tranquilize a few of them
but they didn’t have the right equipment right away and they had to do something to keep the public safe. I understood why they had to do it but it was terrible.
Why do they let people keep exotic animals?
Especially animals that are endangered, like tigers?
Contrary to popular belief, I am not Jewish.
Mostly they don't.
I don’t remember all the details with this story, but I think this guy was exploiting some loopholes in Ohio law to not only keep the animals, but receive government funding.
Say no to Prince Fielder in 2012.
by Knubles and Bits on Dec 20, 2011 7:44 PM EST up reply actions
I once had to chase two Emus through a retirement home.
I had an interesting childhood. Only about 2 minutes from the baltimore city line.
The reports I read...
… made it sound like they barely tried capturing the animals at all and that the sheriff just used it as an excuse for target practice.
I’m as pissed at the law enforcement as I am at the guy. I’m also pissed at whoever helped the guy collect all those animals.
by Tezcatlipoca on Dec 20, 2011 2:04 PM EST up reply actions
they whole situation was terrible, obviously
but I find it hard to blame law enforcement for doing what they can to keep tigers and such off of public streets. It’s not like they were trained to handle that kind of thing. I saw an interview with Jack Hannah after it happened and he was pretty upset but said he didn’t see another resolution given the circumstances.
yeah i read that they didnt even try
they just decided to not risk missing any, so they shot to kill.
"I don't have an on-deck circle for ideas. It's just 'Batter up!!' Even though they're bad" - Mike Birbiglia
by Parkinglotninja on Dec 20, 2011 2:14 PM EST up reply actions
I beg to differ...
It costs much less if you have a steady supply of hobos nearby.
Just be careful though:
http://www.dumblaws.com/laws/united-states/maryland
It’s illegal to take a lion to the movies.
by Tezcatlipoca on Dec 20, 2011 1:53 PM EST up reply actions
That’s just common sense.
how common is it and what type of sense is it making?
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
i'm just joking
i support not adopting tigers.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
Woops
Had a bad day. Sarcasm glasses aren’t on right now.
Contrary to popular belief, I am not Jewish.
yeah, i wasn't quite sure if you're playing along with my sarcasm
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
Nope
I legitimately thought you were against cute animals.
Contrary to popular belief, I am not Jewish.
i have nothing against cute animals. they’re tasty and i support their existence.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
I love animals
Especially with BBQ sauce.
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
by duck on Dec 20, 2011 2:04 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
and cheese
YUMMY! YUMMY! YUMMY!
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
Just saw this. Found it relevant.

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
Are you advocating for cannibalism?
I may have convinced one of my classes of Korean elementary school students that Americans eat Asian babies.
by Tezcatlipoca on Dec 20, 2011 2:22 PM EST up reply actions
Cannibalism?
Is the Asian girl secretly a baby chick? Or is the chick a human?
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
I don't even know anymore.
I feel like there’s some sort of horrible trauma in birdman’s life that we need to dig into.
by Tezcatlipoca on Dec 20, 2011 1:57 PM EST up reply actions
Maybe he anthropomorphized a bird...
thinking of it as some sort of “bird-man” and it ended up breaking his heart.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
I only anthropomorphize my pets because they do human shit.
Loki has actually healed a dungeon in World of Warcraft (I dragged a cat toy across the keyboard and the little bastard just went to town).
BJ (that border collie) knows over 100 words.
Callie (my mom’s border collie) is the most emotional dog I have ever seen. She’s like Deanna Troi in Star Trek.
Dallas (my sister’s dog) came from a kill shelter in West Virginia and pissed himself every day for a month, then she trained him and now he celebrates football touchdowns by throwing his paws into the air.
by Tezcatlipoca on Dec 20, 2011 1:35 PM EST up reply actions
I'd piss myself if I was locked up in West Virginia too
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
i eat them because i hate them.
and they’re delicious.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
by birdman on Dec 20, 2011 1:27 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Bald Eagle's pretty good too.
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Dec 20, 2011 1:31 PM EST up reply actions
I once ordered panda at a restaurant in China.
The waiter turned whiter than me.
by Tezcatlipoca on Dec 20, 2011 1:35 PM EST up reply actions
You're walking dangerously close to a line...
… which result in reinstitution of “birdman’s mom” jokes as a daily fixture…
by Tezcatlipoca on Dec 20, 2011 1:30 PM EST up reply actions
i'm seriously afraid to meet some of you in person now.
and you know what really sucks? i can’t make mom jokes now without it looking like retaliation.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
she learned it by watching your mom alright!
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
That's okay.
I’ll likely never do a Camden Chat meetup. I’ve been stalked twice in my life.
The first was in college, when my girlfriend’s roommate got a crush on me and would wait in the stairwell until I headed out of my room, then try to follow me. Or she’d leave notes on my door like, “What do I have to do to be exotic?”
The second was in China, when another English teacher started trying to get into arguments with me on a forum for English teachers and eventually started posting pictures that he took of my wife and I on the metro.
I get really nervous about revealing too much personally identifiable information online, though I’m sure some of you are creepy enough that if you wanted to, you could probably find out who I am from my postings here.
by Tezcatlipoca on Dec 20, 2011 1:38 PM EST up reply actions
Everyone that I've met from CC has been lovely
Although it was weird that time that one person recognized me as Stacey from the Internet.
Actually it’s… it’s quite, you know… typical behaviour when you have this kind of dysfunctional group dynamic. You know, this kind of co-dependent, emotionally stunted, sitting in your stupid coffee house with your stupid big cups which, I’m sorry, might as well have nipples on them, and you’re all, like, “Oh, define me! Define me! Love me, I need love!”
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
Quick question?
How do I go about changing my profile name? It’s stupid and very awkward when trying to introduce myself at things like Fan Fest and any kind of in-person meeting because it’s so fucking stupid. That and if I ever get around to writing anything seriously I’d rather have something more normal. Mostly because it’s fucking stupid. Thanks!
by TerroristFistJab on Dec 20, 2011 5:38 PM EST up reply actions
Here is a good way to pick a name.
1) Take the region in which you live
2) Put “O’sfan” at the end of it.
3) Pay me royalties every time you comment.
When Andino finally emerged, he looked up at the Red Sox fans filing out. "I just wanted to see them go," he says
by WestcoastO'sFan on Dec 20, 2011 5:52 PM EST up reply actions
i doubt you can change it at this point
unless you create a new account.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
Well, if you wanted, you could come to a meetup and just tell us to call you Tez.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Dec 20, 2011 1:50 PM EST up reply actions
thats why I always refer to EME as Mr. Esskay in real life
Your cannonball trajectory, it always gave me hope
"EME" would also sound too much like "Eat Me"
Which might be considered an offensive way to address him.
by Tezcatlipoca on Dec 20, 2011 1:54 PM EST up reply actions
I don't care if people in real life call me by my real name.
I was just offering a suggestion since that is a concern for you.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Dec 20, 2011 2:16 PM EST up reply actions
So if Callis says the Orioles can't compete for two seasons,
does that mean he believes they can compete in 2014?
If you look at those UZR ratings or whatever
in 2014, he'll be talking about how the o's can compete in 2016.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
I think it is a difference between completely f’ed and pretty well f’ed.
by crawdaddy on Dec 20, 2011 2:18 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Because he dodges bullets, Avi.
"Tiger got to hunt, bird got to fly; Man got to sit and wonder 'why, why, why?' Tiger got to sleep, bird got to land; Man got to tell himself he understand.."
god what an awesome movie
Need to watch that again ASAP.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
My wife told me I was obsessed with Brad Pitt,
I was all like, ‘no I’m not.’
And she was all like, ‘’You know all the words to: Snatch, Fight Club, Ocean’s 11, Se7en, and Twelve Monkeys.’
And I was all like, ‘Yeah, well… um… shut up!’
"Tiger got to hunt, bird got to fly; Man got to sit and wonder 'why, why, why?' Tiger got to sleep, bird got to land; Man got to tell himself he understand.."
haha
those are pretty solid movies though.
Most people seem to think lock stock is better than snatch, but I prefer snatch. You?
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
They are both pretty awesome.
I’ve seen Snatch more often, so I’ll defer to that, just because I can quote it more fluently.
It’s too bad he went and married Madonna, and Swept Away ruined his career forever. I would have liked to have seen what an un-tainted Guy Ritchie could have done.
"Tiger got to hunt, bird got to fly; Man got to sit and wonder 'why, why, why?' Tiger got to sleep, bird got to land; Man got to tell himself he understand.."
"but I prefer snatch. You?"
Agreed.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
by daveh873 on Dec 20, 2011 4:14 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Also, re: Markakis taking some kids to target...
How much would you spend on gifts for a child during the holiday season?
If you look at those UZR ratings or whatever
Depends on whose kid it is.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Dec 20, 2011 1:36 PM EST up reply actions
Their age would be somewhat of a factor, right?
My kid is ten months old and I’ve been absolutely thrilled at how cheap toys and such are. I think I’ve asked my wife if we can go to Toys ’R Us at least once every other day because I find so much randomly cool stuff to give him. Totally not just for me to play with. At all.
by TerroristFistJab on Dec 20, 2011 5:40 PM EST up reply actions
I have two nieces and a nephew
I buy them each two presents. I don’t really put a $$ on the younger two because they’re young enough that their toys are cheap. The oldest one is 14 and asks for expensive stuff. Her I spend about $100 usually, although I did splurge and get her an iPod touch for her birthday.
If they were my own kids, well I guess it would depend on how much money I make.
if i'm nick markakis
$1000, let them go nuts.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
One of the ESPN New York guys says that the Yankees bid less than $20MM on Darvish.
I wonder if they really thought they had a chance at winning.
“Well, maybe if the stories about Texas are true that they have no money so they won’t bid, and maybe if Toronto believes the stories about Texas are true and they really are true so they’ll bid less, and…”
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Dec 20, 2011 2:07 PM EST reply actions
If they did, they were smarter than the O's.
Low-balling costs nothing and even though it only has a 0.01% chance of winning, that’s higher than 0%.
by Tezcatlipoca on Dec 20, 2011 2:10 PM EST up reply actions
At least they could have bid $1 and pretended they were playing by Price is Right rules.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Dec 20, 2011 2:14 PM EST up reply actions
the cubs put in a bid which they fully expected to fail.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
Baby animals ARE adorable.
Unlike one Cleveland organization minor leaguer who can make up to $1 mil in 2012 via incentives, who never WAS adorable.
OK, just sayin’. He had his moments.
We still suck, but on Sept. 29, 2011, we did a Very Cool Thing. Yeah, we did that.
Remember, they're just animals, they're not love.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
are you still doing that Short Circuit guy from Friends?
"Tiger got to hunt, bird got to fly; Man got to sit and wonder 'why, why, why?' Tiger got to sleep, bird got to land; Man got to tell himself he understand.."
but man did I love those movies...
you don’t see them anywhere, though… even with all this I love 80’s nostalgia running rampant
"Tiger got to hunt, bird got to fly; Man got to sit and wonder 'why, why, why?' Tiger got to sleep, bird got to land; Man got to tell himself he understand.."
i saw short circuit (in the theater in fact)
not the second one though. i really don’t have any memory of the movie other than i thought ally sheedy was cute at the time.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
I loved the second one when I was a kid
Los Locos kick your ass!
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
I had 2 80's crushes when I was a little kid:
Karen Allen, and Lisa Bonet.
Totally not my type as an adult. I am the unHolyMittens. I like ’em blonde, and curvy.
"Tiger got to hunt, bird got to fly; Man got to sit and wonder 'why, why, why?' Tiger got to sleep, bird got to land; Man got to tell himself he understand.."
i had a major crush on alyssa milano.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
Ashley Olsen for me...
when i was a kid
"I don't have an on-deck circle for ideas. It's just 'Batter up!!' Even though they're bad" - Mike Birbiglia
by Parkinglotninja on Dec 20, 2011 2:49 PM EST up reply actions
Miss Elizabeth from the WWF was my childhood 80's crush
He praised my creativity, though he spoke sarcastically...
by PBR me ASAP! on Dec 20, 2011 6:04 PM EST up reply actions
I really hate it when my people get pulled from the task to go work on other stuff
Nobody tells me that they’re using my resources for their task so when I ask folks if they are going to make the upcoming deadlines, they tell me they aren’t even close. Of course, the folks who re-assigned them to other tasks will be the first to complain that we’re slipping our dates. Naturally, that will just be my fault.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
Yeah, way to screw everyone else up, O'Brady!
Say, would any o’ your people be interested in laying off some side bets on a, um, really interesting Bowl Game wagering opportunity…?
We still suck, but on Sept. 29, 2011, we did a Very Cool Thing. Yeah, we did that.
We have a pool here that got pretty much no interest, so I'm gonna go with no.
Plus, I’m not asking them anyways because I’m pissed off at most of them with the exception of a handful of select individuals.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Dec 20, 2011 2:30 PM EST up reply actions
risk?
is there interest in a round?
"Three thousand years of beautiful tradition,from Moses to Sandy Koufax,YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT I'M LIVING IN THE FUCKING PAST!"- Walter Sobchak
there is, in fact, interest.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Dec 20, 2011 2:26 PM EST up reply actions
Yah sure
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Dec 20, 2011 2:33 PM EST up reply actions
what's your e-mail?
i got everyone else.
"Three thousand years of beautiful tradition,from Moses to Sandy Koufax,YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT I'M LIVING IN THE FUCKING PAST!"- Walter Sobchak
by j.q. higgins on Dec 20, 2011 2:35 PM EST up reply actions
Oh sorry
cornwell128 at gmail dot com
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Dec 20, 2011 2:51 PM EST up reply actions
okay, we're up.
"Three thousand years of beautiful tradition,from Moses to Sandy Koufax,YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT I'M LIVING IN THE FUCKING PAST!"- Walter Sobchak
by j.q. higgins on Dec 20, 2011 2:52 PM EST up reply actions
Not showing up in My Games
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Dec 20, 2011 2:57 PM EST up reply actions
shit.
"Three thousand years of beautiful tradition,from Moses to Sandy Koufax,YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT I'M LIVING IN THE FUCKING PAST!"- Walter Sobchak
by j.q. higgins on Dec 20, 2011 2:58 PM EST up reply actions
fail.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Dec 20, 2011 2:59 PM EST up reply actions
It was doomed from the beginning.
No way we can complete a game by 3:30
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Dec 20, 2011 3:00 PM EST up reply actions
truth
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Dec 20, 2011 3:01 PM EST up reply actions
Try again?
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Dec 20, 2011 3:23 PM EST up reply actions
I can play.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Dec 20, 2011 3:29 PM EST up reply actions
i'd do it
"Three thousand years of beautiful tradition,from Moses to Sandy Koufax,YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT I'M LIVING IN THE FUCKING PAST!"- Walter Sobchak
by j.q. higgins on Dec 20, 2011 3:32 PM EST up reply actions
Three way?
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Dec 20, 2011 3:35 PM EST up reply actions
Pinstripe Alley is going to do the same 29 trades for 29 teams thing
I told them to send me a link when they get to the Orioles to see what kind of deal they’d have in mind.
durn....forgot about that.
Need to figure out who I’m trading to the Angels. Maybe Kevin Gregg for Albert Pujols.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Dec 20, 2011 2:30 PM EST up reply actions
Nearing 700 comments on a quiet Tuesday afternoon.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
we're just all doing our best to supplement stacey's income
so she can pay her unwarranted parking tickets.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
paid by the post?
"Three thousand years of beautiful tradition,from Moses to Sandy Koufax,YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT I'M LIVING IN THE FUCKING PAST!"- Walter Sobchak
by j.q. higgins on Dec 20, 2011 2:47 PM EST up reply actions
I sort of assumed clicks/length of stay.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
stock marking going crazy
One of my ETFs is up over 11% for the day so far.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Only 3pm.
Feels like it should be later than that.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
Japanese pitchers: Is Amber Theoharis worth the risk?
We still suck, but on Sept. 29, 2011, we did a Very Cool Thing. Yeah, we did that.
by Titov on Dec 20, 2011 3:21 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
hahahaha!
"Three thousand years of beautiful tradition,from Moses to Sandy Koufax,YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT I'M LIVING IN THE FUCKING PAST!"- Walter Sobchak
by j.q. higgins on Dec 20, 2011 3:25 PM EST up reply actions
Good Question
For Wada, definitely not.
For Koji, probably not.
For Yu, possibly yes.
For Igawa, definitely yes.
by Tezcatlipoca on Dec 20, 2011 3:29 PM EST up reply actions
i need a hug from amber.
rough day.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
GOOD LORD
Ghost town yesterday, 700+ and counting today. Newfies, speed cameras, cats, trolls, parking tickets, awkward sex talk, kitties, and a little baseball. And it’s not even 1:00 here!
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
Yeah, but we really hit a wall at about 3:00.
by Tezcatlipoca on Dec 20, 2011 3:55 PM EST up reply actions
ha! apparently.
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
I love that the awkward sex talk is just randomly sprinkled into the discussion with no real purpose too.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Dec 20, 2011 4:03 PM EST up reply actions
no
YOU did. When you said people needed to sign a waiver to hug me because I was 12.
Contrary to popular belief, I am not Jewish.
so you're conceding that you're a midget?
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
not that there's anything wrong with midgets!
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
Barely five feet tall?
Yeah, I’m a midget. But he still started it.
Contrary to popular belief, I am not Jewish.
nowhere near as good as the flowchart
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
I was tempted
but it’s been used so much, and it’s kinda your thing. Besides, I figured a teen girl would appreciate the anime reference.
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
all excellent points
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
i missed the awkward sex talk
and i think i’m just fine with that.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
With this crowd, it's always awkward when it's sex talk.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Dec 20, 2011 4:15 PM EST up reply actions
for example, "not when tez's mom is involved" is not creative.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
Intense Open Thread
Good work guys!
When Andino finally emerged, he looked up at the Red Sox fans filing out. "I just wanted to see them go," he says
by WestcoastO'sFan on Dec 20, 2011 4:45 PM EST reply actions
On break from his 1st semester?
Damn right you did!
"You should put the secret group of people that you carry with you on your tech equipment second to the person you're sitting with."
- Merrill Markoe
scottboras.com says the O’s are still in the Fielder derby.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
Cecil?
When Andino finally emerged, he looked up at the Red Sox fans filing out. "I just wanted to see them go," he says
by WestcoastO'sFan on Dec 20, 2011 5:26 PM EST up reply actions
angelos and duquette both like stars
what?
jon heyman: get some new material. your jokes are growing stale.
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
Liking stars is what makes Duquette and Angelos cool, man.
Theo Epstein and Andrew Friedman don’t like stars. Only the Orioles front office likes stars.
Who doesn't like Polaris?
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Dec 20, 2011 6:01 PM EST up reply actions
Oof...we've heard that one before, haven't we?
Tex, Texiere, Teixerr…Douchera, wasn’t it? Amazing that the only other super-premium FA hasn’t generated nearly as much buzz as his agent probably would’ve thought. I think it’s rampant anti-vegetarian bias.
by TerroristFistJab on Dec 20, 2011 5:45 PM EST up reply actions
Laying in the weeds, baby!
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Dec 20, 2011 6:01 PM EST up reply actions
It's true.
The O’s are interested in signing Prince Fielder for 5 years at $5 million per.
by Tezcatlipoca on Dec 20, 2011 6:27 PM EST up reply actions
why thank you.
I did have some incredible latkes this evening. With dad’s homemade apple sauce = AMAZING!
Contrary to popular belief, I am not Jewish.
my sister-in-law said she made "pancake cupcakes"
I dunno if they were potato pancake cupcakes or what, but they sound delicious no matter what.
you don't know what recipe she used!
you kids and your googles. maybe she amended a recipe! maybe she’s using a recipe that the google doesn’t know about!
thanks on behalf of mrs. zk
i made kickass latkes tonight, followed my a kickass roast chicken.
we lit the menorah and listened to klezmer music.
tomorrow: egg nog and trimming our douglas fir, which in my family is not in any way associated with a kid born in a manger.
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
Hey, we're doing our tree today (Wednesday), too!
Of course, ours is connected to that kid in a manger, but that’s what makes America great. You can put up a tree for any reason you want. Happy Hanukkah!
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
We put up our 100% artificial tree
to protect the plethora of gifts underneath its branches.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
don't think like that
pretty soon you’ll be getting paid to chat here.
by PhilR8 on Dec 20, 2011 8:06 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
do you need a hug?
if so, hug yourself because i don’t do that shit!
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
If taking this job means you can't play as much risk.
I suggest you decline it.
When Andino finally emerged, he looked up at the Red Sox fans filing out. "I just wanted to see them go," he says
by WestcoastO'sFan on Dec 20, 2011 8:13 PM EST up reply actions
did you kill any fish?
ha ha get it
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

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