Thursday Bird Droppings
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PrintThe Orioles Decline To Trade Adam Jones For Jurrjens, Prado, & Prospect | Camden Crazies
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So after all the trade talk, this guy is saying it was never even on the table.
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Sanity will out! There is order in the universe! Gravity works! TCU 31 - La Tech 24
Thank cripes! And I bet the MWC brass is even happier than me, since they’re now looking marginally less incompetent after two apathetic losses. Anyway, it took a 4th Q bout of playing-up-to-form, but Aaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhh: the Bowl-capping Nuclear Winter is over.
Oh, and keep Adam Jones.
OK, off to the dentist for $2100 worth of steak-eating power, dammit.
We still suck, but on Sept. 29, 2011, we did a Very Cool Thing. Yeah, we did that.
I wonder how much HIS cost. But then he prolly got a discount for not killing the whole office.
Anyway, now it’s a 2-wk temp job (chew crackly/chewy/sticky stuff on yer right pls) then then Real Thing in Jan..
We still suck, but on Sept. 29, 2011, we did a Very Cool Thing. Yeah, we did that.
oh is it a crown or something?
I’ve had more experience with crowns than any 22 year old should have.
Kim Jong-un is about to surpass you.
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
I'm devolving from crowns: this one is a bridge
We still suck, but on Sept. 29, 2011, we did a Very Cool Thing. Yeah, we did that.
Got the game, but didn't win against the point spread.
Shoulda known it was an “I don’t give a crap” game for TCU.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Dec 22, 2011 8:40 AM EST up reply actions
I was sitting there during the 1st H saying This f#cking Just Can 't Be -- is my whole card gonna go up in flames
because NOBODY is EVER going to play to form again?!? I’ve had some bad bowl days/streaks, sure, but I don’t recall ever dropping 5 in a row— not to mention 5 straight-ups! Well, thank cripes I didn’t do it this time, but hey, it was close.
OK, 2-nite we get Moore & Co. rubbing the country’s face in it again, as their tiresome, now-traditional power-whining — Go Ahead, Ignore Us, We’re Only The Actual Best Team In The Country — gets revved up again as they kick around an outmanned major-conf team. ASU COULD surprise us (a la U$C), of course, and I really hope they make a game of it. But Scum Devils to cover this 14 is a REAL alumni-only type flyer. Take BO, natch, and cover your ears.
We still suck, but on Sept. 29, 2011, we did a Very Cool Thing. Yeah, we did that.
haha...some kid on my facebook just told me to chill out with bowl bets because he wants a playoff game.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Dec 22, 2011 12:22 PM EST up reply actions
For his sake, I hope no 6th grade Yahoo! Bowl Pick "swami" on a 4-straight ATS run or sth tries to tell me to chill.
I keel him, I keel him NOW.
Actually, it’d prolly be smarter to send J.Q. over to sue the kid’s folks for, y’know, illegal parenting or some dame thing. Then for the clincher, send in the pretentious douchebag from Westie’s Eng. class to nerd him to death.
We still suck, but on Sept. 29, 2011, we did a Very Cool Thing. Yeah, we did that.
Yea...he won't stop me.
Plus, I only do this to waste time at work.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Dec 22, 2011 12:40 PM EST up reply actions
Wait, wasn't TCU favored by 10? They didn't cover.
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Dec 22, 2011 11:54 AM EST up reply actions
For bowls I do straight-ups except for PAC 12 games
Too many X factors as it IS!
We still suck, but on Sept. 29, 2011, we did a Very Cool Thing. Yeah, we did that.
bahaha
this is hilariously awkward
holiday greetings from the Atlanta Braves
my favorite part is when Uggla creepily pops up at the 0:53 mark
clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...
Brandon Webb
Isn’t he a free agent now?
The O’s took a flyer on Duscherherehreersher. Why wouldn’t they take a 1 year, $2.5 million flyer on Webb? Yeah, his career has come off the rails. But there was a time when he was a very, very good starter. His sinker was dominant and his HR/9 ratios were excellent. I feel like at worst, he’d end up in Vandenhurk’s role as a long-reliever or spot starter.
I think Webb's donezo
The Rangers took that same flyer on him last year for $3 mil and he didn’t pitch a single inning. I think I remember reading that he couldn’t get his fastball above high-80s. It might be time for him to join Eric Byrnes’ beer league
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Dec 22, 2011 9:17 AM EST up reply actions
He hasn't pitched an inning in two years, and only pitched four innings in 2009
Now, theoretically, this is the type of low-risk, high-reward move the O’s should do, because if he’s able to bounce back, he can be a steal…
But I am so very non-optimistic about the O’s’ luck in these cases, that I don’t think it’d be worth it for anything other than a ML minimum contract with a ton of incentives
I'd be okay with an incentive-based contract.
Webb’s had rotator cuff injuries that have kept him from throwing. He had a second surgery, so maybe that’s under control. It’d be nice if the O’s at least kicked the tires a little.
by Tezcatlipoca on Dec 22, 2011 9:21 AM EST up reply actions
Webb's not low-risk, high-reward
he’s low-risk, no-reward.
Your cannonball trajectory, it always gave me hope
by Andrew_G on Dec 22, 2011 9:29 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Reading the potential trade packages for adam jones
Braves = I like it
Marlins = Dear lord no, the thing we don’t need is 3 “toolsy” guys who can’t hit
Mets = YES bonus = chance to grab a guy we could have had instead of hobgood
Phillies = meh
Nationals = Ok
Agree...
I’d make the Braves or Nationals trades, but not the others. But I also think that the Braves and Nationals trades probably overvalue Jones. There’s no way the Braves make that trade. I think the Nationals would only do that trade if the O’s gave up Guthrie in exchange for a C – C+ prospect from the Nats.
by Tezcatlipoca on Dec 22, 2011 9:23 AM EST up reply actions
Applying for the P.A. announcers job after work.
That would be my dream job.
"I don't have an on-deck circle for ideas. It's just 'Batter up!!' Even though they're bad" - Mike Birbiglia
by Parkinglotninja on Dec 22, 2011 9:16 AM EST reply actions
I'd consider it, but...
… does it pay enough to be a full-time job? It’d be a 5:00pm – 10:00pm thing, which would make it really hard to have any other kind of work.
by Tezcatlipoca on Dec 22, 2011 9:24 AM EST up reply actions
i did some research
and it looks like on average they make 500-750 a game. I live in cumberland which is 3+ hours away. The median income here is low. There are no jobs. I work 40 hours a week in an insurance office and 30 as a manager at arbys. Together i make just over 30,000 a year. Hypothetically if it pays 600 * 81 days, that equals roughly 49,000. if thats the case then absolutely. I will take it hands down, and if i must ill work a few morning hours at my insurance office.
"I don't have an on-deck circle for ideas. It's just 'Batter up!!' Even though they're bad" - Mike Birbiglia
by Parkinglotninja on Dec 22, 2011 9:28 AM EST up reply actions
That's pretty reasonable.
I may just have to apply for that.
I have 0% chance of getting it, but maybe they’ll like that I taught English in Asia and that demonstrates good communication skills. I’ve also spoken on the floor of the United Nations.
by Tezcatlipoca on Dec 22, 2011 9:30 AM EST up reply actions
hahaha.
yeah , that one. Im the night manager/drive thru guy there.
"I don't have an on-deck circle for ideas. It's just 'Batter up!!' Even though they're bad" - Mike Birbiglia
by Parkinglotninja on Dec 22, 2011 9:37 AM EST up reply actions
My girlfriend lives in Lavale, so I'm up there a lot. Right down the road from there.
What sucks is I live right outside of Baltimore. Terrible making that drive all the time.
i also live right down the road from there.
chances are decent that we may have seen each other in passing.
it is quite a drive. not my favorite one, thats for sure.
"I don't have an on-deck circle for ideas. It's just 'Batter up!!' Even though they're bad" - Mike Birbiglia
by Parkinglotninja on Dec 22, 2011 10:01 AM EST up reply actions
I am amused by how many people here are familiar with Lavale.
My mom has family in Ohio, and it’s better to get there on I-68. Lavale was always a good stopping point when leaving from the Baltimore area with a car full of kids. We would always eat at the Dairy Queen.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Dec 22, 2011 11:42 AM EST up reply actions
that dairy queen is across the street from my arbys.
i get blizzards there occasionally
"I don't have an on-deck circle for ideas. It's just 'Batter up!!' Even though they're bad" - Mike Birbiglia
by Parkinglotninja on Dec 22, 2011 2:06 PM EST up reply actions
I sent the notice
for the announcer’s job to my son. He has a BA in Mass Comm – maybe this could be his big break!
The person who introduced Andrew to baseball and the O's
WHICH son?
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
unsurprisingly
my degree is in Computer Science, so that would be the unstoppable Steven_G.
Your cannonball trajectory, it always gave me hope
Mickey on 98 Rock was talking about his idea for an all-SP staff this morning.
He wants every pitcher to pitch one inning, ignoring warmup times or the fact that we would have a 20 man rotation.
So all of you gentleman scholars entertaining the offseason plan of having 10 SP’s each pitch half a game will be happy to know that you have the biggest blowhard in Baltimore as a spokesperson.
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Dec 22, 2011 9:22 AM EST reply actions
This just in
The O’s also didn’t offer Adam Jones to the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim of California of the United States of America of the Earth for the recently acquired Albert Pujols.
"Human beings make life so interesting. Do you know, that in a universe so full of wonders, they have managed to invent boredom?" ~ Death
shit....that was gonna be my 29 teams, 29 trades offer.
Actually, I was going to throw in Kevin Gregg as a token of good faith.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Dec 22, 2011 10:00 AM EST up reply actions
pretty easy to get VHS converted to DVD
I can actually do it on my Mac.
So…. buy the VHS, send it to me, I make you a DVD. How’s that? :)
I could even burn a few extras as contest awards.
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
in fact, I think i'll just bid on it.
I bet I’m the only one who goes for it. But if not, I’ll pay up to, I dunno, $15-$20?
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
I can't imagine it'll cost you that much
The current bid is a quarter and it ends in 5 hours. Doesn’t really seem like the kind of item people keep on their watch list to bid on at the last minute.
hahaha
you never know.
someone like WW might bid it up just to be a prick to me. ;)
Anyway, I bid on it.
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
That comment is gonna cost you a dime son...
(bumped to 30 cents)
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Dec 22, 2011 11:00 AM EST up reply actions
YOU. MOTHER. FUCKER.
:: shakes fist ::
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
BWAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAAHA
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Dec 22, 2011 11:06 AM EST up reply actions
Although that wasn't the worst auction-related bit of CC assholery in history.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Dec 22, 2011 11:46 AM EST up reply actions
yeah, spill the beans!
i don’t think I know this one.
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
I was bidding on an all-orange uniform worn by a certain adorable left fielder (all proceeds going to charity)
and when I said something about it here, someone else who didn’t even know about the auction before swooped in and outbid me.
and who was this someone else?
c’mon, name names.
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
the fix is in
Oh, he knew I was annoyed. After he jacked up the price he said “Well that’s as high as I’m willing to go so if you outbid me you can have it.”
EEEEEEEEEEEEEK!!!!
The one who didn’t want me to come to CC day!!!!!
Grrrrrrrrrr!!!!! I’m still mad about that!!!!
(jk, if you are out there lurking fix)
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Dec 22, 2011 1:13 PM EST up reply actions
bahahahahaha
that’s AWFUL!
where is fix these days?
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
in his Felix Pie uniform
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
In retrospect, would you really want it now?
"Human beings make life so interesting. Do you know, that in a universe so full of wonders, they have managed to invent boredom?" ~ Death
BWAHAHAHHA
I love every part of this thread. Maybe it’s the painkiller I popped an hour ago, or maybe it’s not. Either way, that story was awesome.
My bidding ZK up a nickle doesnt even compare.
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Dec 22, 2011 1:14 PM EST up reply actions
now up to 7.50
i actually think there’s oing to be some sniping on this item
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
Really though
Not a single bid until 8:00 PST at which point it went from 30 cents to $7.50. Lurkers be lurkin
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Dec 22, 2011 1:19 PM EST up reply actions
And you just made this seller's day
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Dec 22, 2011 1:19 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I realize that prices spike when things wind down on ebay
But for a 20 year old VHS tape?
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Dec 22, 2011 1:21 PM EST up reply actions
Sure
especially if the seller wants to raise the price before it sells for 20 cents.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
yeah, it's a sock puppet
all of this bidder’s bids have been on this seller’s items.
SHOCKING!!
I’m gonna report him to eBay.
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
I had no idea there was such a market
You wanna sell my parent’s VHS’s? They’ve got many of your favorite early 90s Richard Gere classics like Pretty Woman and First Knight
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Dec 22, 2011 1:29 PM EST up reply actions
Those are probably worthless
Tell me when you have limited edition copies of a Wings concert or something.
How about the first season of Wings?
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Dec 22, 2011 2:03 PM EST up reply actions
$10 says FIX IS IN wins it.
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Dec 22, 2011 1:23 PM EST up reply actions
He's got that old VCR deck in his van ya know...
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Dec 22, 2011 1:23 PM EST up reply actions
to be fair
isn’t that also the dude who sells socks out of his van at O’s games or something equally weird?
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Not worth the S&H even if you got it for a penny
I have a state of the art 13" tube TV/VCR combo circa 1990 in my basement that can be yours for the low low cost of come get it the fuck out of my basement.
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Dec 22, 2011 10:49 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I still have
a BetaMax tape player in the garage.
"Work fast. Throw strikes. Change speeds." Ray Miller
by Zeke McGeek on Dec 22, 2011 10:52 AM EST up reply actions
My college roommate brought a BetaMax player to our apartment.
We were there for 2005-2009.
"Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs." -- Earl Weaver
do I hear an Apple II?
c’mon Ladies and Gentlemen?
do I hear an 8-track?
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
No, but when I was in high school
In 1997, our “computer applications” class was taught on an Apple IIe. It was, as you can imagine, very helpful and applicable to the real world.
We used to play "Paint the Floor" on those in grade school
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Dec 22, 2011 11:03 AM EST up reply actions
we grew up with an Apple II
It was actually the bees knees at the time. Windows did not yet exist. I remember being thrilled when we got a magnetic graphics tablet with an attached, push-in pen to draw on it.
Mostly, we dealt with 64 × 64, but if you wanted to gall all Hi-Res, you could put it in 256 × 256 mode.
Of course, this was all on our family TV. Separate monitors didn’t really exist yet, at least not in the home.
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
Commodore Vic-20!
I think we were the only family that got one. Not because we were rich or anything, just cuz maybe other people knew it sucked. :>
"Human beings make life so interesting. Do you know, that in a universe so full of wonders, they have managed to invent boredom?" ~ Death
I remember wanting a TRS-80
like it was the golden egg
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
I remember Press Play On Tape
and a skiing game called.. wait for it…. Skier.
"Human beings make life so interesting. Do you know, that in a universe so full of wonders, they have managed to invent boredom?" ~ Death
Commodore 64!
Man, I remember the games I used to play on that….
The “Games” series – Summer, Winter, World, and California
Wasteland
Mission Impossible
Some gawdawful baseball game where you could only play as one of two teams….
Ah….back in the day
I had that, salvotion.
The football and minesweeper games, too.
by Tezcatlipoca on Dec 22, 2011 12:06 PM EST up reply actions
How could you not want that game!
It was state of the art baseball with the ever-so-compelling perpetual Home v. Visitors matchup with unnamed players with unidentified skills playing against each other in epic pixelated fashion.
Mother, did it need to be so high.
Also, you could drag bunt down the line for a HR.
by Tezcatlipoca on Dec 22, 2011 12:20 PM EST up reply actions
ha! i remember that!
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
ha I remember that
Golf wasn’t too bad on Intellivision. My buddy and I still make that “click click click” sound when we hit our real golf balls in the real woods.
"Work fast. Throw strikes. Change speeds." Ray Miller
by Zeke McGeek on Dec 22, 2011 12:52 PM EST up reply actions
just like the WNBA
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
2B is way out of position
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Dec 22, 2011 1:12 PM EST up reply actions
They're playing the shift.
The Visitors’ number 3 hitter is dead pull.
Mother, did it need to be so high.
I do have an Apple Performa in the garage
with 5MB of RAM, which, as I told my wife at the time, “it’s a CAVERN of memory. We’ll NEVER fill that!”
She loves to remind of that whenever I argue for a new tech purchase.
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
there's a buy it now auction too
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
by birdman on Dec 22, 2011 2:24 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
first Egg Nog of the season last night
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
those are little lumps of whipped cream and meringue
they got smoothed out as i kept folding
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
different recipes
but that’s what mine entails
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
Never been much of an egg nog fan.
But I guess if you throw enough rum in it, you don’t even notice.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Dec 22, 2011 11:24 AM EST up reply actions
Not a huge rum fan either, but when its mixed in with stuff like that, you don't notice it.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Dec 22, 2011 11:27 AM EST up reply actions
Them's fightin' words.
Rum is the best. Just like vodka, whiskey, tequila, scotch, schnapps, flavored liqueurs, and anything else with an alcohol content over 4%.
And the same for alcohol in candies. Why spoil good candy? More to the pt., why spoil good alcohol?!?
We still suck, but on Sept. 29, 2011, we did a Very Cool Thing. Yeah, we did that.
I prefer virgin rum. Hold the nog.
"Human beings make life so interesting. Do you know, that in a universe so full of wonders, they have managed to invent boredom?" ~ Death
The only virgin I know is the Virgin Mary.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Dec 22, 2011 12:23 PM EST up reply actions
That whole thing was a big CYA
“bitch!! You pregnant?? We ain’t even fucked yet!!”
“umm errr.. umm it was… GOD!! yeah! I’m immaculately tricked out!”
"Human beings make life so interesting. Do you know, that in a universe so full of wonders, they have managed to invent boredom?" ~ Death
Tim Tebow's the father!
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Dec 22, 2011 12:31 PM EST up reply actions
we use rum + bourbon + brady
it’s pretty high-test
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
Store bought for me...
But definitely with a little Captain in it.
"You should put the secret group of people that you carry with you on your tech equipment second to the person you're sitting with."
- Merrill Markoe
This
If you don’t like run, whiskey or brandy will do just fine, but they dont mix as uniformly so it requires some stirring. I prefer a whiskey with less of a kick like canadian whiskey, so it doesn’t overpower the taste of the egg nog
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Dec 22, 2011 11:38 AM EST up reply actions
Wow.
That’s pretty intense.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Dec 22, 2011 12:23 PM EST up reply actions
i can't tell you how delicious it is
it sounds awful, but you add eggs, cream and sugar, and…..
…..HEAVEN.
(apologies to T. Tebow)
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
Ruhlman recipe?
I’ve got a half-gallon of that that’s been aging since the week before Thanksgiving….
by AndrewTorrez on Dec 22, 2011 12:34 PM EST up reply actions
family recipe
the only one we don’t give out.
I just found Ruhlman’s recipe. There are similarities, but we don’t use any milk—only cream. And we whip the cream and egg whites to give body, then fold into the yolks/sugar/boze mixture.
What you get is more like a dense foam than a liquid.
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
it's super boozy -- you definitely need to make the egg meringue/heavy cream
the day you’re serving and then mix it together. It’s really awesome, though I’m sure it can’t touch a secret family recipe.
by AndrewTorrez on Dec 22, 2011 6:05 PM EST up reply actions
maybe i found the wrong recipe.
his seemed to just be, “mix it in a jug, let it age.”
do you have a link to the one you’re talking about?
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
his link to the chow thread was broken
so the original is here. You make and age the eggnog — I’ve let it go for months before — and then serve it with the meringue mixture (10 egg whites and 1.5c heavy cream whipped to soft peaks).
by AndrewTorrez on Dec 22, 2011 9:37 PM EST up reply actions
ok, this is very similar to mine then
except as i said, we use no milk, and the proportions are quite different.
but this is the first time i’ve seen another recipe with meringue and whipped cream folded in, which i personally feel makes nog what it is.
thanks for passing this along. gotta try it. :)
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
I dig egg nog
very nice
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Dec 22, 2011 11:25 AM EST up reply actions
Los Alamos?
Laos?
All of Latin America?
by Tezcatlipoca on Dec 22, 2011 11:43 AM EST up reply actions
that's supposed to be
the University of Catonsville, Left of Arbutus
by AndrewTorrez on Dec 22, 2011 9:52 PM EST up reply actions
Today's "just because I found it interesting" reading suggestion of the day
The history and future of Dropbox.
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
I DO
although I don’t really use dropbox anymore. I’ve switched to skydrive for documents and amazon cloud drive for music, not that I’m a huge user of either. But still cool to tinker with
It just works, which is why I like it
iPhone, PC at school, PC and laptop at home, it just works, and all media/files are in the same place with one login. Public links? Can do. A lot of work went into making that product easy to use.
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
i agree.
it’s very simple.
but i’m still using iCloud for all my non-document syncing
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
Well, you're an all-Apple guy, so iCloud makes the most sense for you.
If you’re cross-platform, Dropbox makes the most sense, IMHO.
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
oh def
my boss loves it. I used to use it pretty extensively, but at the moment it’s not the best option for a Windows Phone user like me. If I switch platforms in the future I’m sure I’ll try it again and see if it’s the best for that situation
Pretty good (and short) article on comparing cloud services
http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2011/06/cloud-services-compared/all/1
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
You do fart a lot though
I use it to share my novels with friends who can then read them and tell me how great they are.
It already done stuck boy
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Dec 22, 2011 2:27 PM EST up reply actions
I've mentioned it once
Other people have already brought it up aside from me.
I think mission accomplished.
Air Biscuit boy...
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Dec 22, 2011 2:38 PM EST up reply actions
FartBoy!!!!!!!
Here he comes to stank the dayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
"Human beings make life so interesting. Do you know, that in a universe so full of wonders, they have managed to invent boredom?" ~ Death
In true Wire fashion, it just happens like that.
“This kid whose mother went to the trouble of christening him Omar Isaiah Betts. You know, he forgets his jacket… so his nose starts running and some asshole, instead of giving him kleenex, calls him ‘Snot.’ So he’s Snot forever.”
Mother, did it need to be so high.
says the guy who's "taking a break" from watching it?
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
Buy books for mother for Xmas, store automatic personalization goes wrong.
Book recommended to me today:
The Blue Bistro – Adrienne Dealey has spent the past six years working for hotels in exotic resort towns. This summer she has decided to make Nantucket home. Left flat broke by her ex-boyfriend, she’s desperate to earn some fast money. When the desirable Thatcher Smith, owner of Nantucket’’s hottest restaurant,..
Yeah, that sounds like something I’d read.
"Human beings make life so interesting. Do you know, that in a universe so full of wonders, they have managed to invent boredom?" ~ Death
I purchased a book for my mother for Christmas.
It’s a massive book (20 lbs.) called The Art Museum. The next time I visited Amazon, it recommended a vibrator to me.
Wildly, wildly inappropriate.
by Tezcatlipoca on Dec 22, 2011 11:41 AM EST up reply actions
Then again
http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/e-buzz-millers-art-classics/278703
"You should put the secret group of people that you carry with you on your tech equipment second to the person you're sitting with."
- Merrill Markoe
Pretty sure.
birdman isn’t my brother, after all.
by Tezcatlipoca on Dec 22, 2011 11:44 AM EST up reply actions
I did, too, a week ago
and I’ve never even heard the guy. I just love his distribution model.“I could sign a contract for the same $$$ and let a big company charge you $20, but I’d rather just do it myself and charge you $5.”
And he’s gonna make more $$$ by charging $5 himself than signing on for a special.
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Yeah, all artists should do this if they have enough recognition
The problem is it doesn’t work for lesser known people, as they lose out on advertising.
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Dec 22, 2011 11:40 AM EST up reply actions
That's what media companies will become - introductory services
when they break, they’ll start doing it DIY and keeping all those profits for themselves. So, do we see media companies offering only contracts for long years & exclusivity like the movie studios in 1930?
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
i bought that video
and it was WELL worth it. Hilarious. I will happily keep funding Louis CK.
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
A rule five making the top ten?
I’m not too discouraged…maybe BA is higher on Flaherty than most? Flaherty could be a decent hitter, though in some ways he seems like a left handed Ryan Adams. And of course a poor defender is about the last thing the Orioles need. But hopefully with practice he can be decent. I mean, considering what was out there last year…
If you look at those UZR ratings or whatever
seems to me...
maybe a touch better (at best) offensively and average in the field, where adams has been seen decidedly below average in the field.
"Three thousand years of beautiful tradition,from Moses to Sandy Koufax,YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT I'M LIVING IN THE FUCKING PAST!"- Walter Sobchak
by j.q. higgins on Dec 22, 2011 11:46 AM EST up reply actions
I'm just thinking happy thoughts about Ryan Adams,
maybe because I want him to be better defensively than he is!
If you look at those UZR ratings or whatever
Wow wow wow
Jamal Lewis and others suing the NFL for brain injuries
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Dec 22, 2011 11:56 AM EST reply actions
nah man
you try to set the single season rushing yard record with out being coked up. Go ahead, I’m waiting.
Haha
He def still parties too. We ran into him in Canton Square many a Sunday Funday ago. Awesome guy.
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Dec 22, 2011 2:07 PM EST up reply actions
Anyone thinks this could actually come true?
Awww it’s an old one but still good.
"Human beings make life so interesting. Do you know, that in a universe so full of wonders, they have managed to invent boredom?" ~ Death
My fave was about Jeter's range allowing 3,000th hit earlier this past summer!
If you look at those UZR ratings or whatever
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http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/job-posting-orioles-internship/
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Darn my lack of SQL experience...
"Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs." -- Earl Weaver
Darn my need to get paid a salary.
"Tiger got to hunt, bird got to fly; Man got to sit and wonder 'why, why, why?' Tiger got to sleep, bird got to land; Man got to tell himself he understand.."
Or duck
That stipend may be more than he’s making as a teacher.
"Human beings make life so interesting. Do you know, that in a universe so full of wonders, they have managed to invent boredom?" ~ Death
duck would never make it in Baltimore.
He had to move out of Fruitland because it was too urban.
by Tezcatlipoca on Dec 22, 2011 12:21 PM EST up reply actions
Marital issues...
My wife freaks out because Washington, DC is too rural for her…
I freak out because Garrett County is too urban for me…
by Tezcatlipoca on Dec 22, 2011 12:55 PM EST up reply actions
Ha.
Long hours and weekends as an intern. I love the shit they throw out there.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Dec 22, 2011 3:28 PM EST up reply actions
It is funny to me that Kobe Bryant's wife files for divorce...
And then a week later, he is out with a sprained wrist.
That’s why you gotta stay in game shape, man. If you don’t put in the practice time, that’s when injuries happen.
"Tiger got to hunt, bird got to fly; Man got to sit and wonder 'why, why, why?' Tiger got to sleep, bird got to land; Man got to tell himself he understand.."
by tflach2 on Dec 22, 2011 12:20 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Single Man's Disease, eh?
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Dec 22, 2011 12:21 PM EST up reply actions
Must be unrelated.
Married men are in outstanding game shape, especially married men on the verge of divorce.
Mother, did it need to be so high.
Or when the girl wants him to sleep alone.
File under: No means yes.
Mother, did it need to be so high.
If you extrapolate from all kinds of anecdotal and possibly apocryphal stories, no professional athlete does.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Dec 22, 2011 12:35 PM EST up reply actions
I think that's accurate for the most part
someone like Randy Johnson might have a little bit of trouble but otherwise I think wealthy pro athletes can go to the bar or club and take their pick.
Didn't we establish previously that this was decidedly not the case for Rob Dibble?
by Tezcatlipoca on Dec 22, 2011 12:56 PM EST up reply actions
There was another player involved who was decidedly douchey...
If I remember correctly.
Wasn’t it like Nick Johnson or someone?
by Tezcatlipoca on Dec 22, 2011 12:57 PM EST up reply actions
Today's third JUMBLE word took me like 15 min. or sth! Key-ripes!
S L T U C P
We still suck, but on Sept. 29, 2011, we did a Very Cool Thing. Yeah, we did that.
PC Slut
Next?
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
by daveh873 on Dec 22, 2011 12:48 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Ahahaha-- that's SO rec'd
We still suck, but on Sept. 29, 2011, we did a Very Cool Thing. Yeah, we did that.
Hmm...Matt Barkley might stay at USC.
If he hangs around, they are loaded for next season.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
Yeah, all eyes on (groan) Heritage Hall for the announcement (13:00 PST).
Which presumably means he’s staying, or he’d’ve picked another venue.
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news?slug=ap-usc-barkley
We still suck, but on Sept. 29, 2011, we did a Very Cool Thing. Yeah, we did that.
I was kinda hoping the Redskins were gonna draft him.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Dec 22, 2011 12:56 PM EST up reply actions
Any of the PAC 12 Three -- him, Luck or Foles -- would do a lotta good, and quick
We still suck, but on Sept. 29, 2011, we did a Very Cool Thing. Yeah, we did that.
FTFY
Yeah, all 32 eyes on (groan) Heritage Hall for the announcement (13:00 PST).
Because only 16 people give a fuck about college football.
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
REVERSAL!
I THINK YOU NEED A ONE-DAY TIME OUT
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
THE PLAY IS UNDER REVIEW
We still suck, but on Sept. 29, 2011, we did a Very Cool Thing. Yeah, we did that.
Never trust a guy...
… using “Gamecock” in his name and any variation of the phrase “out back”.
by Tezcatlipoca on Dec 22, 2011 1:17 PM EST up reply actions
what about
anyone want to go to Outback for some Bloomin’ Onions later??
clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...
I'd so be down for that.
Haven’t been to Outback in ages….plus that bloomin onion was awesome.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Dec 22, 2011 1:20 PM EST up reply actions
Yes!
"I don't have an on-deck circle for ideas. It's just 'Batter up!!' Even though they're bad" - Mike Birbiglia
by Parkinglotninja on Dec 22, 2011 2:29 PM EST up reply actions
And we can watch the Outback bowl!
Michigan State v Georgia!
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
How can you not care about Indiania State Technical College v. University of South Dakota Mining Academy in the Springfield County Credit Union Hormel Chili Bowl?
Mother, did it need to be so high.
They sold something simliar at a swim meet I was at last week
Opened up a Fritos bad, poured in taco meat, cheese and salsa and lettuce and called it a walking taco.
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
If you like awesome things
you should totally call 719-266-2837 (it’s long distance if any of you still somehow pay for long distance calls)
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
give us a little insight
i don’t want some XXX number showing up on my phone log
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
Or, in mdterpsfan's case, a farter
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Dec 22, 2011 1:18 PM EST up reply actions
I have never been in the need of something so much!
That IS awesome, thanks….
Of course, it was mentioned on NPR last night
that is A RIOT!!!
I think I heard about this last week, but forgot about it.
Totally putting this number on Speed-Dial.
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
you guys all must be really old
cause i don’t know a single thing that was listed on there
clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...
I certainly don't either
but the kitschy novelty is hilarious. Plus I feel sad for everyone who listened to that stuff non-ironically
Almost all their stuff forces me to smile and dance
it’s pure joy in sound form.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
daryll hall has one of the best tenor voices in the history of this planet
and with that, he also has incredible soul. pretty fly for a white guy.
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
BLASPHEMY!!!!!!!
“Private Eyes”, “Out of Touch”, “Maneater”, even “Sara Smile” are awesome. And I’m a Slayer fan!
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Not to mention Rich Girl, I Can't Go For That (No Can Do), You Make My Dreams...
Kiss On My List is a bit much for me though
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
I'd swap out You Make My Dreams for Kiss On My List, though
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
I love "You Make My Dreams"
Mostly because it reminds me of “Step Brothers”
Honestly, I like “Kiss…” as well. I just can’t always listen to it. Everything else I’m almost always down for.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
It really doesn't get any better
if you’re looking for that 70s white-guy-funky girlypop.
Also there was a relatively recent modern girly electropop cover album
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OT4S8kix6n0
Tommy hunter still sucks!
i'm as old as you, and i don't know any of those songs...
although, I do try to avoid the 80s music resurgence as much as possible
Hahaha.... same here
I just sat straight-faced in my office.
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Dec 22, 2011 1:16 PM EST up reply actions
Win!
The Orioles wanted Jair Jurrjens, Martin Prado and at least two of Brandon Beachy, Mike Minor, Julio Teheran, Arodys Vizcaino and Randall Delgado.
That’s what I’m talkin’ about.
shame on Frank Wren
for not utilizing the new Market Inefficiency for minor leaguers….
(whoah, that would have been a trade I’d get behind)
on to the other AL EAst teams
the ones without money. Sox and Yankees have cash, BJs and TB have genius fleecers, and we have fuck all.
Ballsy DD, ballsy
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Dec 22, 2011 1:31 PM EST up reply actions
Wow.
Amazing. When prompted, click that you’re under 21. You won’t be remotely disappointed. Turn your speakers up for this one.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
hahahaha yep!
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Dec 22, 2011 1:24 PM EST up reply actions
after you click that link.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Dec 22, 2011 1:25 PM EST up reply actions
Considering I don't hear you singing, I don't believe you.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Dec 22, 2011 1:30 PM EST up reply actions
Good show.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Dec 22, 2011 1:34 PM EST up reply actions
Did you guys ever get this done?
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Dec 22, 2011 2:32 PM EST up reply actions
TL?
Let’s get it done.
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Dec 22, 2011 2:36 PM EST up reply actions
yea..i can play
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Dec 22, 2011 3:03 PM EST up reply actions
*touches nose
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Dec 22, 2011 3:15 PM EST up reply actions
aight fools..
game’s up
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Dec 22, 2011 3:21 PM EST up reply actions
I can do it.
You, me, AMD, and GC? Anyone else?
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Dec 22, 2011 3:16 PM EST up reply actions
i really want to play one day
but im unfamiliar with the format and how it works and dont want to look like a jackass while playing. i may play around with it tonight and join tomorrows game…
"I don't have an on-deck circle for ideas. It's just 'Batter up!!' Even though they're bad" - Mike Birbiglia
by Parkinglotninja on Dec 22, 2011 3:18 PM EST up reply actions
ask for the "spectator URL"
whenever folsk are playing there’s a “general public” link that allows you to watch.
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
mucho gusto...
taking a look at some internal relief options today.
"Three thousand years of beautiful tradition,from Moses to Sandy Koufax,YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT I'M LIVING IN THE FUCKING PAST!"- Walter Sobchak
Man, this is the second time this has happened to me in as many weeks
I went through the proper channels to take tomorrow off and now they’re closing at 1. So I lose 4 hours of PTO.
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Dec 22, 2011 2:37 PM EST reply actions
I just got a check in the mail from some class action law suit
that I had never heard of before. Drinks (and by that I mean two drinks total) on me tonight.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Let's pool my Centsports money with your random lawsuit money
and we can get FOUR drinks!
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
class action lawsuit over what?
"I don't have an on-deck circle for ideas. It's just 'Batter up!!' Even though they're bad" - Mike Birbiglia
by Parkinglotninja on Dec 22, 2011 2:53 PM EST up reply actions
I'm in.
Where we drinking?
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Dec 22, 2011 3:04 PM EST up reply actions
Is that the same thing as Crystal City sports pub?
I go there and Tortoise&Hare a lot.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Dec 22, 2011 3:15 PM EST up reply actions
No
it’s the topless joint right at 23rd and Jefferson Davis. I haven’t actually been there but I heard it’s hilarious. It’s like a real restaurant (supposedly good steaks) but with topless waitresses and dancers.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
haha....never heard of this before.
I’d definitely go though.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Dec 22, 2011 3:19 PM EST up reply actions
One of the most surreal things I've ever done...
When I was young (maybe 21 or so, don’t remember) my buddy’s dad bought an old cherry Cutlass convertible in Florida at auction and was gonna have it shipped up. We convinced him to let us fly down, pick it up, and road trip back over a week. So awesome.
So anyway, on the way back we passed the “Risque Cafe” and decided we needed to go. We walk in and basically it’s a small diner with an adult store attached and a stripper pole in the middle, plus some rooms for dances. Our waitress comes over. Very pretty young girl wearing a nice sun dress. So she leans over the table to grab menus for us and we both naturally have our gaze drawn to her chest to try to scope out a down-shirt. Anyway, she takes our order and walks off. Next thing we know, she hands in our order, goes up to the pole, and takes the dress off. So weird, yet so awesome. Just taking people from everyday situations (like waitresses) and having them get naked is so odd. You see a stripper, you expect her to strip. But when someone asks how you want your burger done, it’s the last thing you see happening.
Anyway, it’s a great memory.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
Kind of made ya feel silly for trying to sneak a down-shirt huh?
You stole free bread man.
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Dec 22, 2011 3:29 PM EST up reply actions
Has any man ever felt guilty for stealing that particular bread, free or not?
I actually saw a scientific study on this, whereby the subconscious reflex to determine whether a woman is a potential mate or not (i.e. look at boobies) is significantly faster than the conscious ability to tell yourself not to look.
by Tezcatlipoca on Dec 22, 2011 3:32 PM EST up reply actions
Naked News
Just taking people from everyday situations (like waitresses) and having them get naked is so odd.
by Tezcatlipoca on Dec 22, 2011 3:31 PM EST up reply actions
Kinda
The thing with naked news is you know they are gonna get naked. We just thought this lady was the waitress and that there would be separate dancers. It’s the shock of taking her out of one pre-defined role and throwing her into a totally different, totally unexpected, completely out of the ordinary one that made it so cool.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
are you talking about Cafe Risque right off of 95 in North Carolina?
i drove past that so many times on my way back from South Carolina and was always intrigued by what was going on inside of it.
clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...
That's the one.
I’ve seen it so many times, yet I’ve never stopped.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Dec 22, 2011 3:37 PM EST up reply actions
Road trip.
I’ve actually never been to a strip club / topless joint in my life.
by Tezcatlipoca on Dec 22, 2011 4:48 PM EST up reply actions
Technically it's neither
I mean, they have pasties on under their clothes.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
Although if I remember correctly there are 2
the other might be down in GA or something. I think we saw the one further south, got intrigued, and went to the next one when we saw it.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
A friendly reminder
to make your CC Pick-Em choices now, while there’s still time.
"Work fast. Throw strikes. Change speeds." Ray Miller
Reminder mostly directed at kba26.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Dec 22, 2011 2:55 PM EST up reply actions
EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEK!!!!
I ALMOST FORGOT!!!!
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Dec 22, 2011 2:59 PM EST up reply actions
I sense a sarcasm font
but it really is more interesting when everybody makes picks. I have no chance at winning the season, but I still want to see if I can have one “golden week” where I make every pick correctly.
"Work fast. Throw strikes. Change speeds." Ray Miller
Yeah and at the very least try to make some of your money back
WW would rather just quit so that when he’s was behind at the end of Week 17, he can just be like “Oh it’s because I gave up on it” instead of making picks and STILL being that far behind.
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Dec 22, 2011 3:17 PM EST up reply actions
Picks ARE IN!!
I just didn’t feel like fighting you guys for the piddly $10. Once I realized I was out of it for the big prize (the only one I wanted) I figured I’d just let you guys duke it out.
THAT’S IT!!! THAT $10 IS MIIIIIIIIIIIINE AND YOU’LL HAVE YOURSELVES TO THANK!!
And I don’t need excuses, I’m the current beltholder… how many CC Pick’em belts are in your collection?
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Dec 22, 2011 3:20 PM EST up reply actions
whoa
duck picked IND for this game. the smell of desperation.
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
I'm 6 points back w/2 weeks left
What the hell else AM I gonna do except pick every live dog?
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
for my fellow Ravens fans out there
Anquan Boldin having minor knee surgery this afternoon. he’ll be out for the last two games of the regular season but should be back for the playoffs, even if we don’t get that first round bye.
clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...
he owned the Bungels last time.
Wasn’t there one drive where they just threw it to him the whole time? He is gonna be missed these two weeks.
Jason Marquis to the Twins
yawn, is it 5:00 yet?
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Dec 22, 2011 3:02 PM EST reply actions
Happy Birthday WestcoastO'sFan!!!!
by WestcoastO'sfan2 on Dec 22, 2011 3:47 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
aw, thanks buddy!
When Andino finally emerged, he looked up at the Red Sox fans filing out. "I just wanted to see them go," he says
by WestcoastO'sFan on Dec 22, 2011 3:49 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
haha
this is kinda sad :’(
Tommy hunter still sucks!
by Steve. on Dec 22, 2011 3:51 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Well, it would be really sad if it was someone we liked
Since it’s WestcoastO’sFan, it’s only kinda sad.
:(
:(
When Andino finally emerged, he looked up at the Red Sox fans filing out. "I just wanted to see them go," he says
by WestcoastO'sFan on Dec 22, 2011 4:15 PM EST up reply actions
paisan, fellow sagittarius...
buck up, lad.
"Three thousand years of beautiful tradition,from Moses to Sandy Koufax,YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT I'M LIVING IN THE FUCKING PAST!"- Walter Sobchak
by j.q. higgins on Dec 22, 2011 4:19 PM EST up reply actions
It is after all, just Holymittens.
Resident Meg White lover.
When Andino finally emerged, he looked up at the Red Sox fans filing out. "I just wanted to see them go," he says
by WestcoastO'sFan on Dec 22, 2011 4:28 PM EST up reply actions
you don't know what love is, you just do what your told!
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
Happy Sweet 16 Westie!
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
you know that cuts deep.
When are you sending my present? (2 pounds of coffee beans)
When Andino finally emerged, he looked up at the Red Sox fans filing out. "I just wanted to see them go," he says
by WestcoastO'sFan on Dec 22, 2011 7:35 PM EST up reply actions
When you have officially earned it
#rexisfragile
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
actually, tell you what
send your addy to my email, and i’ll spli the shipment. a pound now and a pound later. that way they won’t get stale.
if beck pulls off a miracle, they’ll just be a b-day present.
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
Same email I use for the Risk games?
When Andino finally emerged, he looked up at the Red Sox fans filing out. "I just wanted to see them go," he says
by WestcoastO'sFan on Dec 23, 2011 12:10 AM EST up reply actions
and now weve reached the daily 3:30 CC quiet time.....
:(
"I don't have an on-deck circle for ideas. It's just 'Batter up!!' Even though they're bad" - Mike Birbiglia
by Parkinglotninja on Dec 22, 2011 3:48 PM EST reply actions
Merry Christmas!
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Dec 22, 2011 4:09 PM EST up reply actions
Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the job interview?
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Dec 22, 2011 4:15 PM EST up reply actions
wow...
whoever said the nats we’re in full win now mode…imagine what the duq could have got for adam jones? aj cole, milone, peacock and derek norris for gio gonzalez? that’s ridiculous.
"Three thousand years of beautiful tradition,from Moses to Sandy Koufax,YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT I'M LIVING IN THE FUCKING PAST!"- Walter Sobchak
Nice haul for the A's.
The Nats still have a lot of talent in their farm system, especially at the top end. It’s a lot to give up but I don’t think it’s going to hurt them that much, even if Gio is probably not worth the amount of talent they gave up.
Mother, did it need to be so high.
it definitely gives them roster flex...
but i would guess that cole, milone and peacock could have all made the opening day roster and end up providing more aggregate value than gio, but then, i think milone is a little under the radar.
"Three thousand years of beautiful tradition,from Moses to Sandy Koufax,YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT I'M LIVING IN THE FUCKING PAST!"- Walter Sobchak
by j.q. higgins on Dec 22, 2011 4:28 PM EST up reply actions
I'd think it's better to have one player with a high value
than a group of players who sum up to that same aggregate value.
(damn, I hope that makes sense)
Gio is certainly not expensive (yet), and the Nat’s are starting to almost resemble a well-run ballclub (Werth deal notwithstanding)
mos def
it’s definitely better to have a 6 win player than 3, 2 win players.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
Thing is...
Gio is more of a 3-4 fWAR pitcher, which is quite good but not really star level. The A’s got a star level haul for him and that doesn’t really seem justified. He’s already throwing 200+ innings a year and pitched in one of the most pitcher friendly parks in MLB so it’s not like the Nats are going to see a bump in value from more IP or park effects. I don’t see this as a very good trade on the Nats side but I think they can afford this kind of mistake.
Mother, did it need to be so high.
yup...
from their perspective, maybe they put a little more value in a better than average pitcher that can give them 200 innings given that both stras and zimmerman are coming off TJs.
"Three thousand years of beautiful tradition,from Moses to Sandy Koufax,YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT I'M LIVING IN THE FUCKING PAST!"- Walter Sobchak
by j.q. higgins on Dec 22, 2011 5:18 PM EST up reply actions
There are a fewguys available via FA that fit that bill.
Vazquez, Edwin Jackson, and (at one time) Buehrle all pitch at or above Gio’s level (including 200 IP) and are available without giving up a massive prospect haul. I understand that Gio’s contract will be less than any of those guys will make but I have a hard time seeing that difference in contract dollars being worth what they gave up. Maybe I’m missing something but Gio just doesn’t seem that special. Also, as a fan, his walk rate would drive me insane.
Mother, did it need to be so high.
oh, i know it...
just trying to see it from rizzo’s POV.
"Three thousand years of beautiful tradition,from Moses to Sandy Koufax,YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT I'M LIVING IN THE FUCKING PAST!"- Walter Sobchak
by j.q. higgins on Dec 22, 2011 5:39 PM EST up reply actions
Nice haul, indeed.
I wonder if we could have gotten even just one of those guys for Guthrie.
by Tezcatlipoca on Dec 22, 2011 4:50 PM EST up reply actions
Not sure Gio will be that good,
but being in the NL should help. Nice haul for the A’s, no doubt.
If you look at those UZR ratings or whatever
fucking work dropped on my fucking lap as i'm about to leave my office for christmas vacation.
and i didn’t any fucking prizes at the christmas party. fuck. fuck. FUCK!
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
...
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Dec 22, 2011 4:32 PM EST up reply actions
That movie is so weird.
I saw it is Spring of ‘00, and didn’t think much of it. A guilty pleasure, sure, it was a an over-the-top caricature of a gangster movie that no one had ever heard of, and I figured no one would ever give a rats ass about.
Then, after not hearing a thing about it for 4 years… suddenly everyone is like ‘Yo, have you seen this movie?’
"Tiger got to hunt, bird got to fly; Man got to sit and wonder 'why, why, why?' Tiger got to sleep, bird got to land; Man got to tell himself he understand.."
what is it?
"Three thousand years of beautiful tradition,from Moses to Sandy Koufax,YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT I'M LIVING IN THE FUCKING PAST!"- Walter Sobchak
by j.q. higgins on Dec 22, 2011 5:10 PM EST up reply actions
Boondock saints
"Tiger got to hunt, bird got to fly; Man got to sit and wonder 'why, why, why?' Tiger got to sleep, bird got to land; Man got to tell himself he understand.."
by tflach2 on Dec 22, 2011 5:13 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
oh...
i don’t get the fascination w/ that movie and i love me some mob movies.
"Three thousand years of beautiful tradition,from Moses to Sandy Koufax,YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT I'M LIVING IN THE FUCKING PAST!"- Walter Sobchak
by j.q. higgins on Dec 22, 2011 5:19 PM EST up reply actions
weird in a good way=most coen brothers
"Three thousand years of beautiful tradition,from Moses to Sandy Koufax,YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT I'M LIVING IN THE FUCKING PAST!"- Walter Sobchak
by j.q. higgins on Dec 22, 2011 5:29 PM EST up reply actions
It's become a cult B list type action movie
Ill be the first to admit its not that good, but I love it like I love Road House
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Dec 22, 2011 10:29 PM EST up reply actions
Is there a Mr. Zknower here? Mr. Zknower? Telegram! Telegram for Mr. Zknower! Oh thanks, you can sign for it, Miss...Stacey, is it? Fine.
Pac-12 Conference
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We still suck, but on Sept. 29, 2011, we did a Very Cool Thing. Yeah, we did that.
Oh, and in udder news: As predicted, he-e-e-e-e's back. Yep, Barkley seems to feel he has some "unfinished business" in college
Like what, he’s tired of losing to Stanford? Ahahahahahahaha.
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news?slug=ap-usc-barkley
We still suck, but on Sept. 29, 2011, we did a Very Cool Thing. Yeah, we did that.
are you SERIOUS with this sig line?
:: reaches for the banhammer ::
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
oh, never mind,
in your first post above, i thought all the italicized stuff was a new sig line.
carry on.
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
Ooh, glad you're here! Just in time to watch the Poinsettia Bowl!!!
We still suck, but on Sept. 29, 2011, we did a Very Cool Thing. Yeah, we did that.
Just as soon as I finish watching the Monkeys Might Fly Out Of My Butt Bowl
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
okay, it's more of a Butt Mug:
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
The Dick Butkus Starbucks model
We still suck, but on Sept. 29, 2011, we did a Very Cool Thing. Yeah, we did that.
IN stock from Amazon
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
Ahahaha. ASU down seven in ...14 seconds!
We still suck, but on Sept. 29, 2011, we did a Very Cool Thing. Yeah, we did that.
Man, is this not gonna be close
14-0 @ 4:30 in the 1st . ASU secondary totally at sea. But then, you knew that was coming…
We still suck, but on Sept. 29, 2011, we did a Very Cool Thing. Yeah, we did that.
Judas Priest, 3 consecutive penalties w/o snapping the ball.
Don’t think I’ve ever SEEN that before. It’s almost like they don’t have a coach!
Oh yeah, sorry…
We still suck, but on Sept. 29, 2011, we did a Very Cool Thing. Yeah, we did that.
21-0. It looks like piling on in the 2nd.
We still suck, but on Sept. 29, 2011, we did a Very Cool Thing. Yeah, we did that.
28-3. No shutout. NO SHUTOUT!
I watch Moore every year, y’know, and I STILL don’t see him playing — or playing much — on Sundays. I know, I know: a 4 yr starter who averaged over 12 wins a yr…
But he’s just not big enough or throw long enough. Or sth. Good luck to him, but…naaaah.
We still suck, but on Sept. 29, 2011, we did a Very Cool Thing. Yeah, we did that.
Moore is taller than Brees.
He’s about 15 pounds lighter, but that would change with an NFL training program.
by Tezcatlipoca on Dec 22, 2011 9:47 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, and he's taller than Eddie Lebaron, too
But he doesn’t have the package. For Sun. starting, anyway. Or that’s the way I see it. He’ll have to show me, and maybe he will.
We still suck, but on Sept. 29, 2011, we did a Very Cool Thing. Yeah, we did that.
Baseball Prospectus
and other advanced stat/sabermetric sites have their look back at 2011, and how, as it is every year, the advanced stats and reality don’t mesh at all (though the disparity is not as wild as 2010, what with San Fran and Boston). Laughing a lot at all the vitriol being spewed over how such a good sabermetric team finished 10 games out of the playoffs and a bad saber team made the playoffs, or how a decent saber team barely got, against “all reason”, more wins than a team with solid sabermetric marks across all categories.
Merry Christmas., enjoy the holidays.
Ummmm...this is a strawman argument.
No one has ever claimed that advanced statistics will predict the future with absolute certainty. Advanced stats most often attempt to create a picture of true talent level with as much certainty as possible. There are a number of factors that influence whether a player or a team performs up to estimated true talent level, some of which are within the player/team’s control and some are not. When sabermetricians run simulators, for instance, of thousands of seasons with the same temas and the same players, there are a wide variety of possible outcomes. Predictions are made based on the most likely outcomes given current knowledge of players and teams. Just because unlikely events occur does not mean that the entire model is broken or doesn’t mesh with reality. One season is just one possible outcome.
Mother, did it need to be so high.
it's not a strawman argumet though
a lot of SABR fans insist that a certain trade is useless because it doesn’t make sense in the SABR world. they are disimissive and smug about any trades that fall outside of certain parameters, with an attitude along the lines of, “our stats may not be perfect, but they’re better than anything anyone else can come up with.”
this despite the fact that SABR stats have little or no statisitcally significant correlation with winning that i’ve ever seen.
so the fact that nobody “claims” the stats predict with “absolute certainty”, a lot fo folks behave as thought they do, and get on their high horses when you suggest there are holes in the machine.
your second to last sentence, “Just because unlikely events occur does not mean that the entire model is broken or doesn’t mesh with reality.”…. to some people it means exactly that. If the model isn’t significantly predictive, it’s worthless to those people.
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
You are confusing stats with people.
I agree that smugness about advanced stats is not productive. The most talented current advanced statisticians (the Tom Tangos, MGLs [who admittedly can be a bit of a stats prick at times], Dave Camerons, etc.) do not advocate a stats v. the world approach. Instead, they advocate using advanced stats as one of many tools teams should use to make decisions, including good old fashioned scouting. I don’t think anyone would disagree with this approach.
As to the signficantly predictive problem, Tango has been doing research on this recently. The most accurate predictions come from an amalgamation of all models, with no one predictive model being significantly better year over year.
Think of sabermetric predictions as kind of like playing the odds in blackjack. There are certain plays you can make that will improve your odds of winning in certain situations but you will still lose a lot of the time. But simply because you have a lot of losing outcomes does not mean that the model is broken. Does that make sense?
Mother, did it need to be so high.
It makes perfect sense if it's true
Think of sabermetric predictions as kind of like playing the odds in blackjack. There are certain plays you can make that will improve your odds of winning in certain situations but you will still lose a lot of the time.
That bolded part is the part I think is in dispute.
The thing is, there’s a range of all these things. Of course it’s better to field a team of guys with high OBP than guys without. But the dogmatic stance that many SABR guys take is to dismiss any move that doesn’t conform with modern SABR thinking.
So when SF “improbably” wins the WS, they say, “well, they were outliers, and x times out of 10, that’s gonna happen, but most times, our way is right.” To which I say, “there’s nothing to suggest that your way is right most times.”
To put it another way, until SABR stats show to be more consistently predictive of outcome, I haven’t much use for them.
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
I think two things are getting conflated here, and they need to be separated.
It’s my understanding that many SABR stats are demonstrably better than traditional stats at predicting outcomes for individual players. FIP in Year X is better than ERA in Year X at predicting ERA in Year (X+1), for example.
Predicting season W-L records for teams, though, is a bit of a crapshoot, let alone predicting the postseason. When it comes to those sorts of predictions, they should really publish margins of error and confidence levels. That would actually be nice to see on projections and such in general; it’s sometimes included, but not usually.
And like salvotion said, the bit about the dogmatism of some SABR types is a people thing, not a stats thing.
"Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs." -- Earl Weaver
this is a great point
I don’t deny that there are far better pedictors of individual performances than there used to be. I myself pay much more attention to WHIP than ERA compared to the past.
But the second phase of adding up all those individual predictions to create some kind of uber view of a season—it’s just folly. Especially since even the best advanced stats don’t account for all inds of things that happen with humans—getting injured, getting divorces, eating chicken in the locker room during games, etc.
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
I think what you are expecting may not be realistic.
Each season can only be played one time in reality. Of the thousands of simulations run, a percentage of those seasons ended with the Giants winning the world series even using advanced statistical models. However, that outcome was unlikely. That is why advanced stat people will say the Giants winning was improbable and that they would continue to bet against the Giants if everything was the same and the season was played all over again from scratch. There are even simulations in which the Orioles won the world series (iirc, in most models it was a half a percent chance or something) and I think we can all agree that that outcome is very unlikely, although not impossible.
Again, the point of advanced stats for predicting future results is to try to narrow down the world of possibilities (given what we know about objective past performance) in order to pick out the most likely outcomes. Once the likelihood of outcomes is estimated, the players have to actualy play the game. And that is what we’re all here for.
Mother, did it need to be so high.
I think you misunderstand
I am not expecting anything.
There are no statistics that can accurately predict performance to a degree that will make me pay attention to them. And I am not waiting for such statistics to be produced.
Once the likelihood of outcomes is estimated, the players have to actualy play the game. And that is what we’re all here for.
The players will play the game whether outcomes are estimated or not. And that is what I’m here for.
I’m not seriously suggesting, btw, that the players can’t start until predictions have been made—i.e., I’m not being an asshole here. I’m just trying to point out that for a number of baseball fans, myself included, the full-on obsession with predictive models has nothing to do with their enjoyment of the game. It’s just so mcuh noise and static to be navigated around.
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
So you wouldn't even pay attention to a player's career stats of a more traditional variety?
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Dec 22, 2011 9:15 PM EST up reply actions
Let me clarify:
I pay attention to players’ individual career stats all the time, both traditional and new.
What I don’t do is try to extrapolate a team’s performance or a league’s results from those stats.
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
Would you look at that.
At least one once prominent sabermetrician agrees with you, zk.
Mother, did it need to be so high.
which reminds me
where the hell is Keith Woolner these days, anyway?
by AndrewTorrez on Dec 22, 2011 9:53 PM EST up reply actions
He's working at one of those stupid MLB teams employing stat geeks to live professionally in their mothers' basements.
Wikipedia says he’s with the Cleveland Indians as their Manager of Baseball Research & Analytics
Mother, did it need to be so high.
I miss the good old days of BP
not sure exactly when they jumped the shark, but man, they went south in a hurry
by AndrewTorrez on Dec 22, 2011 9:58 PM EST up reply actions
I know. I didn't renew my subscription two years ago.
I think the decline coincided with Nate Silver leaving. Once they teamed up with ESPN, it really plummeted. Lots of really lazy analysis by some of their writers. They still do have some talented people writing for them, though. Mike Fast is really good and I always liked to read Kevin Goldstein’s take on prospects.
Mother, did it need to be so high.
These things are cyclical – they lost most of their biggest names that were an integral part of BP for a decade, and it’s hard to replace guys like that very quickly.
by D.Szymborski on Dec 23, 2011 9:47 AM EST up reply actions
So when SF "improbably" wins the WS, they say, "well, they were outliers, and x times out of 10, that’s gonna happen, but most times, our way is right." To which I say, "there’s nothing to suggest that your way is right most times."
I don’t think that’s true. For example, let’s take something like pythag theory. A team could outperform it’s pythag and then an analyst will declare that their win total was improbable. You then say, "there’s nothing to suggest that your way is right most times. And then the analyst could then point to historical evidence that shows when a team scored X runs and allowed X runs, they typically win X times not the amount of times they actually won.
Also, in reference to your example, I think most SABR people will say it’s enormously difficult to predict a few number of games like the World Series. It’s crap shoot.
To put it another way, until SABR stats show to be more consistently predictive of outcome, I haven’t much use for them.
It’s always fun to check projections and see how they did.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
And then the analyst could then point to historical evidence that shows when a team scored X runs and allowed X runs, they typically win X times not the amount of times they actually won.
Well, again, this boils down to what you define as “most” or “significant”. How accurate is the Pythag theory, historically?
It’s always fun to check projections and see how they did.
Not for me. Utterly boring.
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
Well, again, this boils down to what you define as "most" or "significant". How accurate is the Pythag theory, historically?
Not sure what you mean here since I didn’t use those words most or significant.
How accurate is the Pythag theory, historically?
I honestly don’t have a precise figure. I’m sure there have been studies, but I don’t have any citations off the top of my head. I’m guessing though there could be a statistic calculated that shows how much better pythag theory does over another method (e.g., random guessing).
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
Not sure what you mean here since I didn’t use those words most or significant.
Nope, those are words that I’ve been using. If something isn’t statistically significant, or predicts things most of the time, I really don’t care about it.
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
Adjusted Pythag is extremely accurate
http://gosu02.tripod.com/id69.html
Lots of math there, so… uh… have fun.
what's "extremely accurate", though?
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
in either direction?
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
i see there is a whole lot of discussion, so this may be covered already...
but I’m gonna jump in and respond to this
So when SF "improbably" wins the WS, they say, "well, they were outliers, and x times out of 10, that’s gonna happen, but most times, our way is right."
I think actually the first thing stats/SABR people would say is: sample size. I think it’s debatable that advanced stats even try to predict how well a team will do over 162 games. I think it’s downright silly to go a step further and say that statisticians try to attempt to predict the outcome of the post season. The first rule of stats is that you need a bunch of them to make sense of that information.
I don’t think you can discredit this whole line of thinking by simply pointing out that the “underdog” won the world series.
I think he was just saying that
predictive models of who will win the postseason are too inaccurate to pay any attention to. There are a lot of advanced stat guys that have models and simulators to predict the likelihood of teams making the postseason and winning the world series.
Mother, did it need to be so high.
i know that stuff is out there...
but I dont think I’ve ever seen it used or discussed outside of gambling purposes.
i'm not discrediting it.
i’m just not crediting it either.
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
so the fact that nobody "claims" the stats predict with "absolute certainty", a lot fo folks behave as thought they do, and get on their high horses when you suggest there are holes in the machine.
i can’t speak for everybody in a community, but I can say that this is what I like about fangraphs, baseball prospectus, and ESPN stats columns. All of these sites talk about stats in an intelligent way that doesn’t use a “absolute certainty” language. For example, Dan Symborski did a nice write up on projecting Yu Darvish’s performance. He gives difference scenarios for each projection and assigned a likelihood for reach prediction.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
Sabermetrics clearly don't work
That’s why the majority of teams don’t employ sabermetric minds like 75% of the current GMs in their front office.
there's no such thing as a "bad saber team" or a "good saber team"
sheesh
Your cannonball trajectory, it always gave me hope
What a fugging joke...
The Yankees and Red Sox were the only teams that paid a luxury tax penalty for 2011, reports The Associated Press. New York paid a $13.9MM penalty (the team’s lowest since 2003) while Boston paid $3.4MM.
These two teams are spending the sport into oblivion and it cost them chump change.
non sequitur
Official Prometheus Trailer out.
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
I understand what MLB Trade Rumors is trying to say, but it still sounds ridiculous.
The Cardinals have addressed the Albert Pujols-sized void in their lineup by agreeing to terms with free agent outfielder Carlos Beltran.
Pujols has 2 inches and about 15 pounds on Beltran.
So the void should nearly be filled, but not quite.
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
nice
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Dec 22, 2011 9:42 PM EST up reply actions
the Cardinals are desperate idiots
I’m betting their under at Vegas next year. Carlos Beltran is playing on Harold Baines’s knees, and their plan is to use him in CF? That’s genius, man.
by AndrewTorrez on Dec 22, 2011 9:40 PM EST up reply actions
But they filled their void!
If they think Beltran is enough to fill Pujol’s contributions to the team, I wanna know what it is they’re smoking.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Dec 22, 2011 9:43 PM EST up reply actions
AWESOME
one of those contests at a game where a spectator gets a car for making the shot.
enjoy this:
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
by zknower on Dec 22, 2011 9:43 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
(it's a 59 year old woman at a hockey game)
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
For the beer nerds
http://www.slate.com/articles/briefing/drink/2011/12/beer_quiz_could_you_be_a_cicerone_.html
I managed 6 out of 8. Not shabby. Guess I need to drink some more. :-)
He praised my creativity, though he spoke sarcastically...
I got schooled. 4 out of 8.
And the kick in the balls: “You are in the 0th percentile.”
Mother, did it need to be so high.
Drink.
He praised my creativity, though he spoke sarcastically...
by PBR me ASAP! on Dec 22, 2011 10:14 PM EST up reply actions
that's an error:
I got this:
Your Score in Could You Be a Cicerone? is 62%
The average user scored 59%. You are in the 0th percentile.
Hello CC
For whatever you folks belive in at this time of year, i just wish you all good things and a happy new year :-)
by RED SOX are #1 in my heart on Dec 22, 2011 10:25 PM EST reply actions
Happy Saturnalia!
We wanted to sacrifice a Troll to our pagan gods at sunset on the Solstice, but lil’ Pedroia could not be found. :`-( They will be most displeased with us.
He praised my creativity, though he spoke sarcastically...
by PBR me ASAP! on Dec 22, 2011 10:30 PM EST up reply actions
I would get cold up here in a toga !
And i hope you don’t think of me as a troll for wishing good things for you and yours
by RED SOX are #1 in my heart on Dec 22, 2011 11:07 PM EST up reply actions
No, not at all. You are welcome here.
I meant for Troll to be a reference to that little runt Dustin.
He praised my creativity, though he spoke sarcastically...
by PBR me ASAP! on Dec 22, 2011 11:08 PM EST up reply actions
Well thanks for that :-)
But don’t you think a lot of teams would love to have that troll ?. texan’s win this one ya think ?
by RED SOX are #1 in my heart on Dec 22, 2011 11:18 PM EST up reply actions
Well good night folks
Hope you all have a great new year
by RED SOX are #1 in my heart on Dec 22, 2011 11:34 PM EST reply actions
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