Community Projections 2011: Vladimir Guerrero
by Stacey on Feb 8, 2011 12:01 PM EST
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Vladimir Guerrero comes to the Orioles with fifteen years of major league experience and a Hall of Fame resumé. After a disappointing 2009 with the Los Angeles Angels, Guerrero signed a one-year contract with the Texas Rangers and bounced back relatively well, although he proved that he is exclusively a designated hitter from now on.
There has been a lot of disagreement over Vlad here on CC. Whether you think Vlad will thrive or flounder as an Oriole, here is your chance to put your money where your mouth is.
Here are Vlad's last three seasons and his career numbers:
| Year | Age | Tm | Lg | G | AB | 2B | HR | SB | CS | BB | SO | |||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2008 | 33 | LAA | AL | 143 | 541 | 31 | 27 | 5 | 3 | 51 | 77 | .303 | .365 | .521 |
| 2009 | 34 | LAA | AL | 100 | 383 | 16 | 15 | 2 | 1 | 19 | 56 | .295 | .334 | .460 |
| 2010 | 35 | TEX | AL | 152 | 593 | 27 | 29 | 4 | 5 | 35 | 60 | .300 | .345 | .496 |
| 15 Seasons | 2002 | 7593 | 447 | 436 | 179 | 92 | 720 | 929 | .320 | .383 | .563 | |||
Using the form below the jump, predict how well Vladimir Guerrero will play for the Orioles in 2011.You can see what everyone else predicts here (although I encourage you to enter your results before you check), and you can check the results of players we've already begun to project (and enter your own) here.
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all contingent on how many games he's with us
I either want to be really good and we keep him because hes doing well, or really bad and hes doing well so that we can trade him. any in-between and we will hold on to him and get nothing.
You cant spell POOP without O's
If we paid 8 million I think we're planning to keep him around.
Scientists believe that the first human being to live 150 years has already been born. I believe I am that human being.
gave miggy 6 years at 12 million...
I’ll take an investment of 8 million, eat most of it, then trade for some prospects (cough 3rd base)
You cant spell POOP without O's
True, but we didn't trade him until years down the line.
Vlad is on a one-year contract, and I don’t think it makes sense to trade such an “expensive” investment, unless, of course, we are sucking it up and he’s doing well (which is certainly plausible).
Scientists believe that the first human being to live 150 years has already been born. I believe I am that human being.
but even if he is doing well and we are not, why keep him?
to spite face? let him go for his and our sake.
You cant spell POOP without O's
If he's doing well
Most likely, the O’s are doing well.
"I find you to be ... disturbingly great." - Steven Tyler
Its pretty lofty to say that a team is contingent on one player's performance
He’s no LeBron
You cant spell POOP without O's
hmm...
He’s noLebronSHJ
Just because you know how to read, doesn't mean you'll like the book.
by arlingtonOsFan on Feb 8, 2011 1:41 PM EST up reply actions
And according to some obscure biblical references ...
… Jesus’ little brother was named Vladamir.
"Try to look unimportant; they may be low on ammo." - Infantry Journal
I tell you what, I'm waiting anxiously for the day
when we can stop talking about Vlad Guerrero.
And for all of these projections, for what it’s worth, I’m assuming nobody gets traded, which is dumb but I’m in no position to guess on trade rumors in July.
AB 548
BB 30
HR 25
2B 21
K 61
SB 0
CS 0
BA .294
OBP .331
SLG .469
If you saw two guys named Hambone and Flippy, which one would you think liked dolphins the most? I'd say Flippy, wouldn't you? You'd be wrong, though. It's Hambone.
We will never stop talking about Vlad Guerrero
For he will lead us to the playoffs in his one and only year in an Orioles uniform.
I guess I simply am awash in ignorance of Alfredo Simon. -James F
God willing. In the square will be...
4, 5, 8, 20, 22, 33, and “VLAD”
You cant spell POOP without O's
it'll just be him, not a statue
working as an usher through his translator
If you saw two guys named Hambone and Flippy, which one would you think liked dolphins the most? I'd say Flippy, wouldn't you? You'd be wrong, though. It's Hambone.
If he's an usher
Stacey will want him to dance with his shirt off.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
by daveh873 on Feb 9, 2011 7:17 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Eerily similar...
Games 150
At Bats 585
Doubles 22
Home Runs 25
Walks 32
Strikeouts 65
Stolen Bases 2
Caught Stealing 5
Batting Average .295
On-Base Percentage .348
Slugging Percentage .505
"I find you to be ... disturbingly great." - Steven Tyler
I have him at 143 games
it seems likely that the Orioles will try to rest him regularly to keep him fresh after his horrifying second half last year.
If you saw two guys named Hambone and Flippy, which one would you think liked dolphins the most? I'd say Flippy, wouldn't you? You'd be wrong, though. It's Hambone.
oooh oooh can I be a math nerd again?
If you saw two guys named Hambone and Flippy, which one would you think liked dolphins the most? I'd say Flippy, wouldn't you? You'd be wrong, though. It's Hambone.
I wasn't aware you ever stopped being a math nerd
I guess I simply am awash in ignorance of Alfredo Simon. -James F
everyone's got to be comfortable in their skin
duck has Vlad hitting 13 triples.
If you saw two guys named Hambone and Flippy, which one would you think liked dolphins the most? I'd say Flippy, wouldn't you? You'd be wrong, though. It's Hambone.
Along w/ 2 SB! It's like Vlad is.....
a gazelle!
"There you go. Givin' a fuck when it ain't your turn to give a fuck." ~ 'Bunk' Moreland
What? You're doubting his ability to do so?
Like I’m going to figure out all of his HR, 2B, and 3B along with singles to calculate a SLG %. Sorry.
I totally think he’ll steal 2 bases, though. :)
"I find you to be ... disturbingly great." - Steven Tyler
I guess it could happen...
If Corey Patterson is stumbling around in LF for the Jays every time we play them.
"There you go. Givin' a fuck when it ain't your turn to give a fuck." ~ 'Bunk' Moreland
Well, he stole four last year...
How did that happen, anyway?
"One way to lower a flag to half-mast is just to lower the flag. There's another way, though. You can raise the pole to twice its original height." - Infinite Jest
by Eat More Esskay on Feb 8, 2011 1:55 PM EST up reply actions
I'd hope that
a) Buck understands that Vlad should not be running when he absolutely doesn’t have to in order to preserve his approx. 500 million year old knees, and b) Buck understands that there’s no way Vlad trying to steal bases works out in the Orioles favor, and so he never puts him in an opportunity to steal or get caught even once.
If you saw two guys named Hambone and Flippy, which one would you think liked dolphins the most? I'd say Flippy, wouldn't you? You'd be wrong, though. It's Hambone.
But there's always the odd play where a ball gets away
and it’s counted as a steal rather than an error
Just because you know how to read, doesn't mean you'll like the book.
by arlingtonOsFan on Feb 8, 2011 2:18 PM EST up reply actions
Did we ever see any misguided hit-and-runs from Buck?
I guess that was more of a Trembley staple.
"One way to lower a flag to half-mast is just to lower the flag. There's another way, though. You can raise the pole to twice its original height." - Infinite Jest
by Eat More Esskay on Feb 8, 2011 2:18 PM EST up reply actions
Pretty close to what i listed.
I put down what I considered to be an acceptable level of performance from Guerrero. I assumed that he might see a bit of a drop-off being one year older.
"Try to look unimportant; they may be low on ammo." - Infantry Journal
I effing already forgot my specific numbers, but here is what I think I put:
Games: 138
AB: 520
2B: 25
HR: 30
BB: 42
SO: 65
SB: 0
CS: 0
BA: .296
OBP: .340
SLG: .517
"There you go. Givin' a fuck when it ain't your turn to give a fuck." ~ 'Bunk' Moreland
if i could guarantee that nolan would get ABs
a sig bet of Nolan versus Vlad would be awesome with me taking Moldy.
I am observing and judging you.
Mine
140 G
550 AB
28 2B
25 HR
43 BB
68 K
2 SB
1 CS
.291/.340/.480
I guess I simply am awash in ignorance of Alfredo Simon. -James F
Did you double check your triples vs SLG%? Hmm?????
"I find you to be ... disturbingly great." - Steven Tyler
Andrew? Will you please check my math for me?
I guess I simply am awash in ignorance of Alfredo Simon. -James F
I think you have him
somewhere between 0 and 1 triples. If I weren’t in class and had pen and paper instead of excel, I’d figure out exactly how many triples you attributed to him, but alas, I’m too busy learning about how my college weekends are slowly killing me (alcohol ruining my body).
You come at the king, you best not miss.
by organizedchaos52 on Feb 8, 2011 2:57 PM EST up reply actions
That's exactly right
I actually thought I gave him one triple, but when I went back and checked the math he’d be at .482 with one triple and .478 with zero. My bad.
I guess I simply am awash in ignorance of Alfredo Simon. -James F
even brooks averaged 4 triples a year
including 5 after the age of 36
You cant spell POOP without O's
good story
In the last five years Vlad has hit 1, 1, 3, 1, and 1 triples.
I guess I simply am awash in ignorance of Alfredo Simon. -James F
i only check those percentages that look wrong
like someone who has no concept of simple math would put out there. Yours pass the eyeball test.
If you saw two guys named Hambone and Flippy, which one would you think liked dolphins the most? I'd say Flippy, wouldn't you? You'd be wrong, though. It's Hambone.
ooh you said duck has no concept of simple math
I guess I simply am awash in ignorance of Alfredo Simon. -James F
You and zk
should compare notes on how to insult me.
"I find you to be ... disturbingly great." - Steven Tyler
by duck on Feb 8, 2011 4:29 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Then there can be a cast shakeup for season 2
And it’ll turn into “Name That Equation! Name That Ammo!”
"One way to lower a flag to half-mast is just to lower the flag. There's another way, though. You can raise the pole to twice its original height." - Infinite Jest
by Eat More Esskay on Feb 8, 2011 4:34 PM EST up reply actions
For one show, until there's a horrible accident at taping
once Andrew points out yet again a math mistake on my part.
"I find you to be ... disturbingly great." - Steven Tyler
EME is totally gonna replace you for Episode 2 of Season 2
“Name That Lunch Meat! Name That Ammo!”
"I find you to be ... disturbingly great." - Steven Tyler
How about if we start referring to you as Duke?
"Try to look unimportant; they may be low on ammo." - Infantry Journal
I went to Maryland
I’d ban you if you called me Duke
"I find you to be ... disturbingly great." - Steven Tyler
by duck on Feb 8, 2011 7:52 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I don't get any slack for being a Maryland grad myself?
"Try to look unimportant; they may be low on ammo." - Infantry Journal
It is true that people rarely expect much out of Maryland grads.
BAM!
Just because you know how to read, doesn't mean you'll like the book.
by arlingtonOsFan on Feb 8, 2011 8:04 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, just ask the co-founder of Google or the founder of Under Armour
COMPLETE slackers, those two.
"I find you to be ... disturbingly great." - Steven Tyler
Firetruck
tuck
luck
suck
stuck
truck
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by Zachary Beard on Feb 9, 2011 9:21 PM EST up reply actions
The second guy also graduated from my high school.
"Try to look unimportant; they may be low on ammo." - Infantry Journal
To be honest, I never thought of that little college for tobacco farmers ...
… when I made the comment.
"Try to look unimportant; they may be low on ammo." - Infantry Journal
I have a concept that goes beyond simple when it comes to math.
I just try not to put it into play.
"Try to look unimportant; they may be low on ammo." - Infantry Journal
57 Homeruns and 132 RBI’s Bats .354, Orioles go 101-61. Vlad hits GW grand slam in game 7 of World Series in Camden Yards against the Pirates. After the game, Vlad says “I just want to thank all the Expos fans out there, I mean Orioles…..Orioles fans.”
"My youngest brothers think I'm a dorky older brother, I can't tell jokes because, 'I'm not funny.' They're much more street smart than I am. They can say whatever they want, cause 'they're funny.' I do pick on them. I try to be funny, but they don't laugh. Even if I am funny, nothing I say is funny to them because I'm just the older brother who's not that cool." - Joe Flacco
only 101 wins malor?
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by Zachary Beard on Feb 8, 2011 6:17 PM EST up reply actions
yeah, really
we were on buck-pace for 96 the last two months last year, and the roster is improved. 110 is clearly a minimum, i think we push the mariners for 117.
I agree.
"My youngest brothers think I'm a dorky older brother, I can't tell jokes because, 'I'm not funny.' They're much more street smart than I am. They can say whatever they want, cause 'they're funny.' I do pick on them. I try to be funny, but they don't laugh. Even if I am funny, nothing I say is funny to them because I'm just the older brother who's not that cool." - Joe Flacco
I didn’t want my comment to sound like I am a homer…
"My youngest brothers think I'm a dorky older brother, I can't tell jokes because, 'I'm not funny.' They're much more street smart than I am. They can say whatever they want, cause 'they're funny.' I do pick on them. I try to be funny, but they don't laugh. Even if I am funny, nothing I say is funny to them because I'm just the older brother who's not that cool." - Joe Flacco
lol you used RBIs
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I heart Leonard Hankerson
by Zachary Beard on Feb 8, 2011 10:27 PM EST up reply actions
The Vlad contract is clearly an overpay, but it’s only a one year deal that won’t hurt the team in the long run. I don’t really agree with the idea that him being here stunts the growth of Reimold/Pie. Reimold was probably going to at least start the year in AAA anyway and Pie isn’t what I would call a prospect anymore. Overall this deal is sub par, bur not something that will set the team back. At the very least Vlad will be fun to watch and might even get us some prospects or a draft pick.
by Brady's sideburns on Feb 8, 2011 9:19 PM EST via mobile reply actions
My usual slightly-late projections:
G: 136
AB: 517
2B: 21
HR: 24
BB: 27
K: 70
SB: 1
CS: 2
.296/.331/.480
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
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