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Should the O's bring back the cartoon bird?


The FanShot by j.q. higgins linking to this article about the best and worst MLB team logos got me thinking about the bird. Personally, my favorite Orioles logos are the current O's logo and the classic cartoon bird. I would love to see some kind of rotation with those logos getting the most use with the lifelike bird getting used once or twice a week. While I'm 26 and have witnessed most of my Orioles baseball with the lifelike bird logo, some of my earliest baseball memories are of the cartoon bird logo.  

Historically, the Orioles had their best years wearing the cartoon bird logo. They introduced that logo in 1966, the same year they won their first World Series title. They also won it all in 1970 and 1983, with losses in 1969, 1971, and 1979. They also won 5 of the first 6 AL East division titles (1969-1971, 1973, 1974).  The years wearing this logo are undoubtedly the finest in the history of Oriole baseball, with names such as Brooks Robinson, Frank Robinson, Jim Palmer, Earl Weaver, Eddie Murray and Cal Ripken, Jr and Sr all playing/managing during this era.  Every Oriole to have his number retired came from this era. 

While a logo certainly doesn't go hand in hand with success, it would be nice to inject a little winning history back into a once proud franchise that has lost its winning way. Buck Showalter has shown interest in getting the players and fans more in touch with Oriole history, as well as getting the organization back to a high level, and on the heels of Baltimore being returned to the road jerseys 2 years ago, the cartoon bird could bring a little nostalgia and hope to a fanbase desperately needing it.  The 2011 Orioles have a team that, by most people's judgements, is better than any team Baltimore has seen during the current losing season streak, it would be nice to see (hopefully) a new, winning era brought in with a little vintage Orioles Magic.

Hey, changing logos worked for the Rays, didn't it?

Poll
Which logo(s) would you like to see the Orioles wear in 2011 and beyond?
Classic cartoon bird only
23 votes
Current lifelike bird only
4 votes
Current O's logo only
1 votes
Current rotation of O's and lifelike bird
4 votes
Rotation of all 3 logos
22 votes
Other (explain in comments)
9 votes

63 votes | Poll has closed

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It's a rare day when I'm off work during the day

No work+son not home=free time. I did think it was funny that when I finished writing it, there were about 60 new comments arguing about how to make more FPs, as you point out.

by YeahDonnie on Mar 16, 2011 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

a very proactive paradigm shift.

"the secret to a happy ending is knowing when to roll the credits"

by j.q. higgins on Mar 16, 2011 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

how many posts can we have about how people were posting about making FPs instead of making FPs,

and why are people posting about that instead of making FPs?

"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and a little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott

by zknower on Mar 16, 2011 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't know

you should make a post about that very question.

by YeahDonnie on Mar 16, 2011 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

this hurts my head

They don't have to be good. They just have to be there. - EME

by Stacey on Mar 16, 2011 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Voted "other"

strangely, you say you like the current “O’s” logo and the cartoon bird the best (i agree), yet you don’t provide a rotation of the two as an option in the poll.

by brek on Mar 16, 2011 1:08 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

I was going to do that

but I didn’t think anyone would want to completely get rid of the lifelike bird comepletely. Should have added it, after all.

by YeahDonnie on Mar 16, 2011 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, that would be my vote

I’m not a hater of the lifelike bird, but I just love the cartoon bird. That’s why I bought the throwback hat.

"It’s easy to lie with statistics, but it’s easier to lie without them." -Fred Mosteller

by John Stephens on Mar 16, 2011 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't like the idea of bringing back the cartoon bird full time

I think it’s too dated looking for everyday use. I would be in favor of it being used instead of the O’s alternate cap, although I don’t like the white back panel. The black back panel with an orange rim would be sweet.

I actually really like the O’s currently standard hat. It’s so different from any other MLB cap.

I do love that Matt Wieters is sporting the cartoon bird on his catching helmet this year.

They don't have to be good. They just have to be there. - EME

by Stacey on Mar 16, 2011 1:11 PM EDT reply actions  

(I voted other)

They don't have to be good. They just have to be there. - EME

by Stacey on Mar 16, 2011 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

I definitely love Wieters' helmet

that, along with Baltimore being put back on the road jerseys, made me think that maybe it’s something they’ll look into in the next couple years.

by YeahDonnie on Mar 16, 2011 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maur also does the same thing

He wears the 3-panel TC hat from the 70s.

The stock market will never recover, our armies will never again be #1, and our children will drink filthy water for the rest of their lives - HST

by the fix is in on Mar 16, 2011 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pic?

Anyone have a link to a pic of Wieter’s catching helmet? I’ve searched for a bit but haven’t found one.

Thanks.

"Morons don't have the attention span to be Orioles fans." - Stacey

by Gorilla Bird on Mar 16, 2011 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I noticed it during Spring Training

doubtful there are any pictures out there yet

by YeahDonnie on Mar 16, 2011 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

im sure uni-watch has one. ill go over to look, i havent been over there lately

typing with one hand, sorry for the lack of capitalization

The stock market will never recover, our armies will never again be #1, and our children will drink filthy water for the rest of their lives - HST

by the fix is in on Mar 16, 2011 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

typing with one hand

if I didn’t read that you hurt your wrist before, I may have misconstrued that.

by YeahDonnie on Mar 16, 2011 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

YOU CAN ALWAYS USE CAPS LOCK

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Mar 17, 2011 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

ask and recieve

wieters screen-grab courtesy of uni-watch

The stock market will never recover, our armies will never again be #1, and our children will drink filthy water for the rest of their lives - HST

by the fix is in on Mar 16, 2011 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hope he keeps wearing it

and it’s not just a Spring Training thing

by YeahDonnie on Mar 16, 2011 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

awesome!

Thanks!

"Morons don't have the attention span to be Orioles fans." - Stacey

by Gorilla Bird on Mar 17, 2011 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

One step at a time.

It took for-friggin-ever just to get ‘Baltimore’ back on the road jerseys. But I fully expect the Cartoon Bird will make it’s return, in conjunction with the lifelike bird and the O’s cap, at some point in the not too distant future.

"Duff Gardens, HURRAH!"

by PBR me ASAP! on Mar 16, 2011 1:12 PM EDT reply actions  

the script needs to be fixed so bad

it’s one of the worst parts of our current set.

The stock market will never recover, our armies will never again be #1, and our children will drink filthy water for the rest of their lives - HST

by the fix is in on Mar 16, 2011 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

what do you mean?

the font size of the script? b/c i think it’s way too large, myself.

"the secret to a happy ending is knowing when to roll the credits"

by j.q. higgins on Mar 16, 2011 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

the 'a' and the 'e' need to be made the same size.

Weird that they failed so hard when they already had this example:
old script

The stock market will never recover, our armies will never again be #1, and our children will drink filthy water for the rest of their lives - HST

by the fix is in on Mar 16, 2011 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah agree

On the new away jerseys, “Baltimore” kind of shrinks into the distance as the word goes on. Great example here. I think it looks terrible. The Brooks jersey linked by fix is how it should be done. I also think they kind of screwed up the “B” on the new jerseys, but can’t say for certain.

by PhilR8 on Mar 16, 2011 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

the size of the word "Orioles"

is also sort of obnoxiously big. It looks so great on the throwbacks…why mess with greatness?

Free Chris Tillman!

by Andrew_G on Mar 16, 2011 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree

I love that they put Baltimore back on there, but it looks so bad.

by YeahDonnie on Mar 16, 2011 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm other

I hate the “O’s” cap with a fiery vengeance and my preference would be cartoon bird on Fridays and realistic bird elsewise. Honestly, I love the cartoon bird, but I feel like it should be a special thing. Too much might ruin it.

Free Chris Tillman!

by Andrew_G on Mar 16, 2011 1:18 PM EDT reply actions  

I don't hate the O's hat

I like it ok for Fridays with the black jerseys, but if it disappeared I wouldn’t feel sad at all.

They don't have to be good. They just have to be there. - EME

by Stacey on Mar 16, 2011 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

can we talk about the black jerseys?

I think they’re stupid. I want Orange, damnit.

"And everything about that was about that."
-The Hurk

by Steve. on Mar 16, 2011 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

No way Steve Dot!

The black jerseys are sharp.

They don't have to be good. They just have to be there. - EME

by Stacey on Mar 16, 2011 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

I really dig the pumpkin look

although I concede that the orange pants go too far.

"And everything about that was about that."
-The Hurk

by Steve. on Mar 16, 2011 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

This is the nadir of SOMETHING

"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.

by Titov on Mar 16, 2011 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

it only worked because they made them wear stirrups

oh man, I actually stole the uniform that Pie wore in that game from Stacey, and was sooo dissapointed that I didn’t get the stirrups.

I mean I have Orioles stirrups but mine are the orange white black white black kind.

The stock market will never recover, our armies will never again be #1, and our children will drink filthy water for the rest of their lives - HST

by the fix is in on Mar 16, 2011 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't remind her of that if I were you.

"You can always tell Yankees fans by the total vacancy which occupies the space where most other people have faces." - J. K. O'Toole (paraphrased)

by Eat More Esskay on Mar 16, 2011 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed

the black jerseys are great. I’d get rid of gray before black.

by YeahDonnie on Mar 16, 2011 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

see..

black jerseys seem dated to me. early 90s.

at least there’s no groundswell for teal alternate alternate unis.

"the secret to a happy ending is knowing when to roll the credits"

by j.q. higgins on Mar 16, 2011 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I"m with Andrew

Definitely do not like the “O’s” cap. Definitely like the cartoon bird but think it would get tired looking as an everyday hat (and also, who just says, “oh let’s just go back to the logo from 30 years ago! then we can pretend like the 90s and 00s never happened!”).

Also I like the one we wore in the 90s, the first “ornithologically correct” one but I suspect that’s just the one I grew up with.

"And everything about that was about that."
-The Hurk

by Steve. on Mar 16, 2011 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

i likes that one as well

although the bird looked like it was about to get stepped on

"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and a little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott

by zknower on Mar 16, 2011 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

These are my exact thoughts.

Hate the O’s cap with a bloody passion (not least of which for the upside-down apostrophe), thinkt he cartoon bird should be used for special occasions, like the lifelike bird for regular days.

TEAM ANDREW

"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and a little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott

by zknower on Mar 16, 2011 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like teh O's hat on Fridays with the black uni tops

Guess I’m officially expelled from Team Andrew

"Don't be intimidated by other teams. You guys got bubble gum cards, too. Let's go." - Buck Showalter

by duck on Mar 16, 2011 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

there is always a place for you on Team Stacey

They don't have to be good. They just have to be there. - EME

by Stacey on Mar 16, 2011 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

duck's like Treebeard.

“Side? I am on nobody’s side, because nobody is on my side, little orc.”

"You can always tell Yankees fans by the total vacancy which occupies the space where most other people have faces." - J. K. O'Toole (paraphrased)

by Eat More Esskay on Mar 16, 2011 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

TEAM TREEBEARD!

"Don't be intimidated by other teams. You guys got bubble gum cards, too. Let's go." - Buck Showalter

by duck on Mar 16, 2011 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I'm with you guys on this

Hate the “O’s” cap….

Go Team Andrew

"Real Orioles don't pout. Real Orioles don't gloat. Real Orioles just win."

by NewYorkOriole on Mar 17, 2011 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, this.

I don’t hate the O’s cap, but the apostrophe issue does annoy me. I just want the cartoon bird back in some form – I’d be perfectly happy them just using the ’70 cap on Fridays.

(Really, though, I want the ‘70 uniform – stirrups and all – to be standard, but I know that’s never happening. I was at the game in which they used those uniforms again, and they just have an element of class to them that modern uniforms mostly lack.)

"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver

by Vuff on Mar 16, 2011 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

add stirrups to baseball uniforms

and baseball is in a good place. other than Milwaukee and San Diego, almost every uniform is pretty decent right now.

The stock market will never recover, our armies will never again be #1, and our children will drink filthy water for the rest of their lives - HST

by the fix is in on Mar 16, 2011 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

amen...

the baggy pants look is so dumb looking. it friggin kills me.

"the secret to a happy ending is knowing when to roll the credits"

by j.q. higgins on Mar 16, 2011 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

this is old school as hell

baggy pants are where it’s at. comfy and stylish.

Get 'em.
you are NOT a beautiful or unique snowflake.
Music City Miracles Hall Of Fame, Class of 2010

by danielreese05 on Mar 17, 2011 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

And fall down when you're running down the hallway

If you don’t think teachers laugh their butts off at those kids in the faculty room, you’re fooling yourself.

"Don't be intimidated by other teams. You guys got bubble gum cards, too. Let's go." - Buck Showalter

by duck on Mar 18, 2011 8:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

I never noticed the apostrophe thing

until you guys pointed it out today. I still love those hats, though.

by YeahDonnie on Mar 16, 2011 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I had a rant about it two years ago.

viewers were only 60-40 on my side, so there ya go.

"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and a little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott

by zknower on Mar 16, 2011 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

For whatever reason, It seems to me that

The O’s black cap with the orange type is more appealing to the youth right now, especially urban youth. I think that’s what they’re aiming for here. I don’t see any kids walking around with fitted flat billed hats with cartoon birds on them or the 90s bird. That being said I have the cartoon retro bird hat. That’s the way to go.

Less big words and more exclamation marks

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Mar 16, 2011 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

There's a (I think) crips-associated gang that identifies with them in LA

Didn’t believe it until I saw it. A lot of them had neon orange shoelaces too.

The stock market will never recover, our armies will never again be #1, and our children will drink filthy water for the rest of their lives - HST

by the fix is in on Mar 16, 2011 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

um

I got a fitted flat brim hat with a cartoon bird on it……

If you are ashamed to stand by your colors, you had better seek another flag. ~Author Unknown

by MudDawg on Mar 17, 2011 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have all 3

get on my level urban youth.

Get 'em.
you are NOT a beautiful or unique snowflake.
Music City Miracles Hall Of Fame, Class of 2010

by danielreese05 on Mar 17, 2011 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have that top one

but the whole brim is COVERED with signatures, so I only wear it to special games (mostly the ones with the autograph booths)
and then I have these two

also have others, both of the Memorial Day ones, a white w/ ornithologically correct bird snapback, Earl Weaver’s HOF memorial hat, and a brown one with the cartoon bird and Baltimore written across the brim.

Get 'em.
you are NOT a beautiful or unique snowflake.
Music City Miracles Hall Of Fame, Class of 2010

by danielreese05 on Mar 17, 2011 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have probably 25 Orioles hats

The bottom one I posted is the only one of the ones I posted that I have. I really want the others though.

by YeahDonnie on Mar 17, 2011 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think the Oriole Bird as the mascot is the only cartoony bird we need.

I like the current lifelike/O’s rotation.

"You can always tell Yankees fans by the total vacancy which occupies the space where most other people have faces." - J. K. O'Toole (paraphrased)

by Eat More Esskay on Mar 16, 2011 1:18 PM EDT reply actions  

I don't understand the desire for an orthonologically correct bird at all

Does it matter? It’s a mascot!

I like the the ’60s era cap with the black background over the ’70s era cartoon bird with the white background.

If you look at those UZR ratings or whatever

by dfa on Mar 16, 2011 1:25 PM EDT reply actions  

i voted some use for all three...

really love that cartoon bird and the three panel ballcap and i think the o’s cap is sort of right for a changeup uni.

"the secret to a happy ending is knowing when to roll the credits"

by j.q. higgins on Mar 16, 2011 1:25 PM EDT reply actions  

For a full time cap logo, I love the early 90's.

It’s a nice looking bird yet also slightly cartoonish. Get rid of the current hat, the O’s cap, and limit the carton bird for throwbacks. Except that when we win the World Series someday, we should definitely put the carton bird wearing a crown on the hat for a season.

The stock market will never recover, our armies will never again be #1, and our children will drink filthy water for the rest of their lives - HST

by the fix is in on Mar 16, 2011 1:27 PM EDT reply actions  

link fail?

"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and a little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott

by zknower on Mar 16, 2011 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

pic fail.

You know either the “Rare Birds” Sports Illustrated cover or the cover with Ripken wearing it?

click here

The stock market will never recover, our armies will never again be #1, and our children will drink filthy water for the rest of their lives - HST

by the fix is in on Mar 16, 2011 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

dislike this cap immensely

Looks more dated than the cartoon bird, in my opinion. Although it could just be that square “tall” hat that Cal is sporting. Ugh.

by PhilR8 on Mar 16, 2011 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

.

"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and a little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott

by zknower on Mar 16, 2011 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Except that when we win the World Series someday, we should definitely put the carton bird wearing a crown on the hat for a season

I can’t get the picture link to work, but this reminds me of the 1967 team logo aka “The Peacock Bird”

by YeahDonnie on Mar 16, 2011 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cartoon bird = aaarrrggghhhhh

The cartoon Cleveland Indian and Chief Nokahoma were more tasteful, y’axe me — not to mention the sensitive, politically-aware birds that gather around my window-feeder, whom I just quick-polled.

"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.

by Titov on Mar 16, 2011 1:36 PM EDT reply actions  

tasteful artistically or by political correctness

because any Indian/Redskin etc logos to me are about as distasteful as it gets. Imagine if we got a new basketball team called the Baltimore Blackies with a 60’s cartoon stereotypical black person logo. That’s what those teams remind me of.

by YeahDonnie on Mar 16, 2011 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

So, we’re agreed that it would be hard indeed to come up with a logo more distasteful to some of us than the cartoon bird, as it exceeds even the widely-recognized bad taste of the Indian-exploting Cleveland logo and the Atlanta Braves “character”. Good.

"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.

by Titov on Mar 16, 2011 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

for the cap, take the wording and circle out

and just leave the bird and the bat on the hat.

by brek on Mar 16, 2011 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have a cap like that,

with the ’80s white-black paneling and orange brim.

"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver

by Vuff on Mar 16, 2011 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Do this

and you have a Dugout Club hat, c. 2004

Like a bad, suave dude. You know what I'm sayin'. COOL. SC 7/24/08

by 33 on Mar 16, 2011 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

is this what you're talking about?

I guess it’s similar, but is obviously softened up a little to look like a “young bird”.

by brek on Mar 16, 2011 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oops. You're right.

I’d forgotten they made the batting bird ‘cartoony-er’

Like a bad, suave dude. You know what I'm sayin'. COOL. SC 7/24/08

by 33 on Mar 16, 2011 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah that dugout club cartoon bird is too kiddish

There’s a fine line between kiddish and cartoony. Cartoony’s cool.

I love this conversation.

Less big words and more exclamation marks

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Mar 16, 2011 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

jesus, is that the "fun bird"?

I want that thing removed from my world entirely

"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and a little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott

by zknower on Mar 16, 2011 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just don't think that is worthy of a cap

works fine as a patch, but it would be too small on a cap

The stock market will never recover, our armies will never again be #1, and our children will drink filthy water for the rest of their lives - HST

by the fix is in on Mar 16, 2011 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Brek, if you live within range of stadium or the Orioles store in York (not sure if there are others), they’re selling a t-shirt exactly like you describe (the batting bird logo above w/o the circle and wordmark)

by BrianS on Mar 16, 2011 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good point

another great logo, maybe add it to the sleeves when they wear the cartoon hat, that would be pretty cool.

by YeahDonnie on Mar 16, 2011 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

All Cartoon Birds

All the Time.

The old Orioles had a cartoon bird – and they won.

The Ravens have a cartoon bird – and they win.

The current Orioles are living a lie with this closet case ornithologically correct bird – and they lose. Year in. Year out.

Time for the O’s to stop acting ashamed of who they are. Time to bring back the cartoon bird. ASAP.

The game ball. Thanks. Roger. I'll put this with my collection of personal achievements. I mean, not right next to the good shit, but still.

by Jonny Pops on Mar 16, 2011 2:14 PM EDT reply actions  

the ravens are not really a "cartoon"

it’s all fierce and shit man. I for one would hate anything akin to the fierce blue jays.

The stock market will never recover, our armies will never again be #1, and our children will drink filthy water for the rest of their lives - HST

by the fix is in on Mar 16, 2011 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

This

is a cartoon.

The game ball. Thanks. Roger. I'll put this with my collection of personal achievements. I mean, not right next to the good shit, but still.

by Jonny Pops on Mar 16, 2011 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

wait up...

you’re telling me you don’t have actual, red-eyed purple ravens flying around in baltimore?

OUTRAGEOUS!

"the secret to a happy ending is knowing when to roll the credits"

by j.q. higgins on Mar 16, 2011 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

thats just a 90's computer-made "fierce" sports logo graphic

this is a ravens cartoon

if the ravens’ helmets are “cartoons” than so are the St. Louis Cardinals.

The stock market will never recover, our armies will never again be #1, and our children will drink filthy water for the rest of their lives - HST

by the fix is in on Mar 16, 2011 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed

it might not be very realistic, but I wouldn’t classify it as a cartoon

by YeahDonnie on Mar 16, 2011 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

If that's not a cartoon...

…then The Flintstones is a documentary.

The game ball. Thanks. Roger. I'll put this with my collection of personal achievements. I mean, not right next to the good shit, but still.

by Jonny Pops on Mar 16, 2011 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

it may be a cartoon, but it's not the goofy cartoony style like the orioles bird

it’s more serious-looking. more dignified, classier, without losing perspective that it is still, you know, a game and thus a cartoon.

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by Luke E on Mar 16, 2011 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd vote that it is not a cartoon,

but an illustration.

"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and a little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott

by zknower on Mar 16, 2011 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

compare the two Milwaukee Bucks logos

Cartoon Buck

I mean I guess this is also a cartoon but to call it that really hurts me.

The stock market will never recover, our armies will never again be #1, and our children will drink filthy water for the rest of their lives - HST

by the fix is in on Mar 16, 2011 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

But it's all fierce and shit, man!

"You can always tell Yankees fans by the total vacancy which occupies the space where most other people have faces." - J. K. O'Toole (paraphrased)

by Eat More Esskay on Mar 16, 2011 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Other

Bring back 90’s bird and use cartoon bird as the alternate. I don’t really like either of the current options.

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Mar 16, 2011 2:22 PM EDT reply actions  

cartoon bird reminds me of 1988

bad.

“realistic” bird reminds me of 1989. good.

plus i was always kinda embarrassed by the cartoon bird. it just looks too stupid to me, like it’s meant for 1st graders not adults. i don’t like the “O’s” logo either, that’s just dumb. i wouldn’t mind a rotation that included one or the other every now and then, but let’s not get carried away.

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by Luke E on Mar 16, 2011 6:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Probably not right for a hat, but

The Warm-Up Bird (that Wayward O previous had as his avatar) has always been my favorite O’s logo. It’s perfect.

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by PBR me ASAP! on Mar 16, 2011 7:02 PM EDT reply actions  

my tattoo!

except mine isn’t waving.

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by the fix is in on Mar 16, 2011 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

now that is a cartoon!

If you look at those UZR ratings or whatever

by dfa on Mar 17, 2011 1:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

(Cartoon) Bird's the Word

I’d rotate Ornithologically correct bird and cartoon bird. I can do w/o “O’s”. I don’t hate it as much as I did when it first came out, but it’s still my least favorite of the three.

The realistic bird has evolved a few times since ‘89. I loved it when it first came out, and it seemed like a great symbol of the fresh start the team needed. Now that symbol is the longtime emblem of losing. It’s time to go back to the days when Orioles meant something. They’ve brought back “Baltimore”, it’s time for the cartoon bird.

I personally like the version with the white panels…it’s the version that has the most nostalgia for me.

by BrianS on Mar 16, 2011 9:45 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Oh yea

If we go cartoon, it has to be white panel. It’s my favorite hat of all time.

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by daveh873 on Mar 16, 2011 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mine too.

But I like the full black w/ cartoon as well

The game ball. Thanks. Roger. I'll put this with my collection of personal achievements. I mean, not right next to the good shit, but still.

by Jonny Pops on Mar 16, 2011 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

this

A nice picture here.

If you look at those UZR ratings or whatever

by dfa on Mar 17, 2011 2:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah..

…see those are nice.

I like the 1963 B too. I never see it sold anywhere as an adjustable cap though.

The game ball. Thanks. Roger. I'll put this with my collection of personal achievements. I mean, not right next to the good shit, but still.

by Jonny Pops on Mar 17, 2011 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

why would you want adjustable?

buuuuush leeeeeeague

The stock market will never recover, our armies will never again be #1, and our children will drink filthy water for the rest of their lives - HST

by the fix is in on Mar 17, 2011 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

guilty as charged

the fitted caps just get too hot for me. I sweat a lot. Usually I wear my cap backwards at ballgames and having that open adjustable arch over my forehead makes a difference in terms of ventilation and therefore comfort.

The game ball. Thanks. Roger. I'll put this with my collection of personal achievements. I mean, not right next to the good shit, but still.

by Jonny Pops on Mar 17, 2011 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

I also am a big fan of the B hat,

though I definitely preferred fitted caps. It’s tough though because of how quickly my hair grows. A difficult life I lead, I know.

I just can’t understand why orthonological (sp) accuracy would even be a goal.

If you look at those UZR ratings or whatever

by dfa on Mar 18, 2011 2:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

No no no no no

The cartoon bird is for winners. If the O’s ever figure out how to win again, then they can wear the cartoon bird.

by drj on Mar 16, 2011 11:32 PM EDT reply actions  

The 0-21 team wore it

But this argument is like the chicken or the egg argument. Does the cartoon bird come before winning or does winning come before the cartoon bird?

by YeahDonnie on Mar 16, 2011 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

What's worse: 0-21 or 13 consecutive losing seasons

I’m going with 13 straight losing seasons.

If you look at those UZR ratings or whatever

by dfa on Mar 17, 2011 1:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Also, I know it wasn't mentioned

But I also like the B hat that they only wore for like one season in the sixties or something. My brother wears it and I think it’s pretty sharp. I wouldn’t mind an updated version of that as the alternate.

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by Stacey on Mar 17, 2011 7:29 AM EDT reply actions  

I like that hat, too. The “B” is just so associated w/Boston though. I know it’s orange and black, but some jackass is going to think that’s a Sawx hat.

Or maybe Bengals.

by BrianS on Mar 17, 2011 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd prefer something more minimalist and stylized....

similar to the very first O’s cap logos from the ’50s.

I know that puts me in the waaaaay minority here, but I’ve always thought overly detailed logos are a bit garish, like they’re trying too hard.

I love that “B” hat, too….

by Chanumas on Mar 17, 2011 2:16 PM EDT reply actions  

The “chirping bird”. Not bad. I always forget about that one.

by BrianS on Mar 17, 2011 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

really works nicely...

w/ the plain, black bill.

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by j.q. higgins on Mar 17, 2011 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have a similar "abstract bird" hat.

too lazy to look it up on Cooperstown Collection, but I’ll say that your example is better than the one on my head. Mine has an orange eye and a circular head.

The stock market will never recover, our armies will never again be #1, and our children will drink filthy water for the rest of their lives - HST

by the fix is in on Mar 17, 2011 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like the cartoon bird...

but only to a point. I really like the realistic bird, and think it should remain the everyday choice, but I could lose the O’s hats and not miss them. I think the Orioles should start doing what the Padres and Brewers do, and wear throwback uniforms for home games on a designated day of the week (I vote Sunday), with the old script, the cartoon bird hat (I support the white front panel), etc. Keep the black uniforms for Fridays. I am notorious in my family for hating teams’ dark-colored jerseys, especially when it seems like they wear them most of the time (looking at you, White Sox and Brewers). Wear the standard hats (or the 90’s all black) with the black shirts on Fridays.

no, not Olney. But I hear good things.

by joe from onley on Mar 18, 2011 11:57 PM EDT reply actions  

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