Bird Food: How much have the Orioles improved?
Chip Buck at ESPN's Sweetspot asks, "Still, I can’t help but wonder if the fans’ expectations are a tad too high as a result of these improvements. Are they setting themselves up for disappointment?" Come on Chip, are we setting ourselves up for disappointment? Are you seriously asking this question? Let's look at the improvements.
2010 First Base
Even Ty Wiggington, the de facto starter who hit 22 home runs, was a near-replacement level player last year, producing 0.3 fWAR. All-in-all, the production (or lack thereof) the O’s received from their first basemen was about a win below the replacement level.
2010 Third Base
Last season, the Orioles gave the majority of playing time to Miguel Tejada and Josh Bell, and in return they received -0.5 WAR in value.
2010 Shortstop
In the three years since Tejada’s departure, Juan Castro, Alex Cintron,Freddie Bynum, Brandon Fehey, Luis Hernandez, Cesar Izturiz, Robert Andino and Julio Lugo have all been given their share of playing time. Yikes! Talk about replacement-level production.
Let's take a look at a list of people who can play first base, third base, and shortstop better than last year's clowns.


So I feel comfortable in predicting more production from Lee, Hardy, and Reynolds. I think Lee is the only real question mark. If his thumb doesn't heal, he could easily offer replacement level production. So far it's not looking good. I wouldn't be surprised if thumbs bothers him all year even though he's healthy enough to "play." But there's a decent chance that he could be a 2 win player.
Furthermore, his signing shifted the defensively challenged Luke Scott from DH to left field, thus weakening the team at that position. Despite all the hoopla surrounding Vlad’s arrival, he projects to provide about 2.0 WAR in value. While that’s admirable production, it neither outpaces Scott’s 2010 production, nor improves the team in a measurable way. [Vlad] addition appears to be purely cosmetic.
First, Luke is quite adequate in the field. At the very least, he won't give up runs with his glove. Second, it's not like LF was a productive position for the O's in 2010. Felix Pie and Corey Patterson both hit in the low 90s OPS+ wise. Neither were stellar UZR wise, but decent DRS wise. I think Luke can replicate them defensively and offer more offensively. While DH might not improve, Luke should offer more production than the 2010 LFers.
I have to wonder if it was worthwhile to invest in short-term stop gaps, especially when the Orioles lack talented young prospects to fill behind those veterans.
I don't quite get this sentence. When a team lacks a young prospect, a veteran stop gap is a good time to fill out a roster spot. We could debate whether a stop gap is even necessary for a non-competing team, but if a team is ever going to use a stop gap, that's the best time. Like 2009, I question the amount of money spent on the 2011 stop gaps (especially Lee and Vlad, I like Hardy and, to lesser degree, Reynolds), but Lee, Hardy, and Reynolds aren't blocking anyone. Perhaps he's referring to the cheap wins that these players provide that will need to be immediately replaced, but I'm not sure.
Really, if the Orioles are going to make any marked improvements, it will need to be on the backs of their young starters. At this point, outside of Brian Matusz, none of their young arms have shown they’re ready to take that next big step forward this year.
Chip, Buck has been showing these inspirational videos to the young pitchers that has them hugging and dancing like the hobbits at the end of the Lord of the Rings. Buck is like the old dad from Cormac McCarthy's The Road telling them to "carrying on the fire" in the current wasteland that is birdland You can't measure the effect of these videos Chip. You just can't. Overall, the fans aren't setting themselves up for disappointment in 2011 by expecting improvement. The team won 66 games and had the fourth worst record in baseball in 2010. Improvement isn't a high bar to reach. At the very least, the fans will get to watch a semi-competent team in 2011.
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Seriously
Find me the fan who says, “The Orioles are the best team in baseball and will finish ahead of the Yankees, Red Sox, and Rays by twenty games!” Expecting improvement isn’t strange at all, this team is better than it was last year. Good enough to win it all? No. Good enough to make me not want to bash my head into the wall nightly? Perhaps.
The other day I was saying to my bf that I can’t even remember what it’s like to watch a baseball game and expect my team to win, or even that they have just a good a chance to win as they do lose. It would be an improvement if I could feel that way, and I’m hoping this is the year.
They don't have to be good. They just have to be there. - EME
With the pitching staff the team has, if they wins 15 – 25 more games than last season I’ll be quite happy. I’m not sure who Chip Buck thinks has blinders on, but they likely aren’t actual fans of the team or Buck is mis-reading O’s fans enthusiasm that we might actually be able to root for a somewhat legitimate team as “We’re winning the division”.
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Expectations
Online sports books (like Bodog) have the O’s pegged at 76 wins, which a) seems about right to me and b) seems to match up with most of the projections around here.
So yeah, a 10-game improvement is really significant; it’s the difference between the cover-your-eyes-awful teams of the past 5 years and a team that might be fun to watch.
OTOH, does the ‘average’ fan have even more unrealistic expectations? People in my office are talking about the O’s being over .500. Joe Sheehan at SI had the O’s as a “sleeper” playoff contender. In my mind, those people are vastly overrating the O’s.
stranger things have happened
ok not really.
Get 'em.
you are NOT a beautiful or unique snowflake.
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by danielreese05 on Mar 22, 2011 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't think saying the O's may be over .500 is vastly overrating them
I believe they have the talent to be about a 76 win team as well, but I also believe you can win or lose another 5-10 games based on luck. Career years, 1 run games in which you just catch a “break”… 82 wins isnt insane if you expect 76.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
I don't really see the difference between an 82 win team and say, an 86 win team which would be kinda neat.
they could just as easily eek out a few extra games here and there.
Get 'em.
you are NOT a beautiful or unique snowflake.
Music City Miracles Hall Of Fame, Class of 2010
by danielreese05 on Mar 22, 2011 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions
I think that we improved a lot BUT
that is looking through the Orioles telescope. if we had the same people coming in and we were the NYFY, then it would not be much of an improvement.
You cant spell POOP without O's
not to be an arrogant orioles fan...
but this year’s team is possibly the most awesome and accomplished assemblage of baseball playing dudes in the history of the united states. possibly even the history of the world.
"the secret to a happy ending is knowing when to roll the credits"
about fucking time...
…somebody realized this.
The game ball. Thanks. Roger. I'll put this with my collection of personal achievements. I mean, not right next to the good shit, but still.
75-85 win team
more or less would be surprising to me. playoff berth would require resuscitation. i expect our “playoff chase” to be with toronto for last place in the east.
"I have spent most of the day putting in a comma and the rest of the day taking it out." --Oscar Wilde
semi-competent or bust!
It seems like there is a chasm, as most think believe this team is an 81 team at best. Of course, looking at the individual projections, it does give one pause.
Whether or not this team will be a success has more to do on whether the young core (Markakis, Wieters, Jones, Matusz) step forward and whether or not they are joined by a young pitcher or two (Britton et al.). The largest problem with the off-season is the inherent pointlessness of acquiring Vlad and to a lesser extent Derrek Lee (operating under the assumption that 500 doesn’t mean anything and getting to 500 doesn’t mean anything to prospective free agents). At least with Hardy the team gets a draft pick worst case, and with Reynolds the team gets 3 years of a lot of power.
Having said all that, I am really looking forward to the season, though I’m not exactly thrilled with the prospect of an empty 500 record and an extension for MacPhail.
If you look at those UZR ratings or whatever
I wish the fucking season would start already...
…so we can stop talking about what will happen and just find out already.
To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa
by James F on Mar 23, 2011 1:15 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
hear hear!
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and a little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
yeppers
"the secret to a happy ending is knowing when to roll the credits"
by j.q. higgins on Mar 23, 2011 9:31 AM EDT up reply actions
Does Cal Ripken have anything to do with the Orioles front office?
The University of Utah is off to the Pac-12 Conference and will be in the South Division. Hopefully we will get to the first ever Pac-12 Championship Game. Jon " Bones " Jones new light heavyweight champion. Even if Jones got struck flush in the face he would recover and defeat whoever is in front of him. I told everyone the fight would be easy. Almost felt sorry for Rua. Anderson Silva would never fight "Bones". The Cult of Personality is here.
by wolfmanshowlforever on Mar 25, 2011 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions
nope.
"the secret to a happy ending is knowing when to roll the credits"
by j.q. higgins on Mar 27, 2011 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions

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