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Yankees 6, Orioles 5: Why hast thou forsaken us, Buck?

"Believe me, I know the save rule and, quite frankly, it doesn’t carry much weight with me. I like the win rule a little bit better." -Buck Showalter, 8/3/2010

Buck made that quote back when he was wooing us, trying to get us to follow him blindly into battle. It went over so well that they even made a commercial out of it that we hear it on the radio and TV every day. Surely that means he believes it, right? Well, folks, the honeymoon is over and Buck Showalter is just like every other manager who relies on a designated closer even when said closer has pitched terribly the entire season. 

Jake Arrieta pitched a hell of a game tonight. A hell of a game. He was pulled after six innings and 90 pitches for reasons I didn't understand. He'd given up three runs but fought back hard in the sixth. He was replaced with Jason Berken, who normally has been quite good, but who gave up a run to make it a 5-4 game. Jim Johnson came on for the 8th and got into trouble despite throwing nasty pitches, but got out of the jam. 

So the 9th inning, a one-run lead, Kevin Gregg has pitched like garbage the entire season, so if Buck values the win rule more than the save rule he won't bring him in, right? Wrong. It was all lip service, O's fans. 

When it became a one-run game, way back at 9:30 PM, EME sent me a message on gchat: "We both know how this game is going to end. I'm not even going to say it, but we know." At 10:09 PM, after the damage had been done but before the game was over, I got another message on gchat, this one from my boyfriend: "When I saw Kevin Gregg was coming in, I started watching Conan. I guess I made the right choice"

I'd put some of the comments right here from the gamethread when it was announced that Gregg was coming into the game, but they are not at all front page friendly. Suffice it to say that everyone watching this game knew what was going to happen. Everyone who values the win rule knew it was a bad idea to bring in Kevin Gregg. You cannot tell me that Buck Showalter did not also know that. Of course he did. But he brought him in anyway because he's the closer and that's his job. 

And what happened? You know what happened. Jorge Posada hit a leadoff home run to tie the game and the Yankees went on to win it in the bottom of the 10th.  

I feel that I've lost a little bit of my innocence tonight. 

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Blownleads.Я.Us.

Clust. Er. F#ck.
Harpoon. Kevin. Gregg.
Where. Thef#ck’s.Koji?
Urge.2.Kill

"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.

by Titov on Apr 15, 2011 1:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

I feel more like I got slipped a roofie and got taken back to the frat house...by Kevin Gregg

"I would disagree with that [statistical analysis] pretty strongly." -Buck Showalter

by jbharvey620 on Apr 14, 2011 10:42 PM EDT reply actions  

Good call WW

"I would disagree with that [statistical analysis] pretty strongly." -Buck Showalter

by jbharvey620 on Apr 14, 2011 10:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Arrieta REALLY deserved to win that one...especially after his last outing

"I would disagree with that [statistical analysis] pretty strongly." -Buck Showalter

by jbharvey620 on Apr 14, 2011 10:44 PM EDT reply actions  

You had any innocence left after all the bullshit of the last decade and a half?

It almost felt right to me – like the familiar and comfortable spot in your couch that you sink into. You know how they say gambling addicts aren’t really after the feeling of winning, but rather the feeling of watching the dealer flip over the winning blackjack hand and reaching for their chips? I think that’s what we’re all like – it’s a sickness.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Apr 14, 2011 10:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Gluttons for pain

"I would disagree with that [statistical analysis] pretty strongly." -Buck Showalter

by jbharvey620 on Apr 14, 2011 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

So did I

but now I’m back in my comfy old spot.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Apr 14, 2011 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

That comfy old spot was still warm from last year :-/

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Apr 14, 2011 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm right there with you...they totally fooled me this season

Kind of like I thought that Garrett Atkins had a chance of regaining his swing. I guess that I’m kind of gullible

"I would disagree with that [statistical analysis] pretty strongly." -Buck Showalter

by jbharvey620 on Apr 14, 2011 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was there too

because evidently I’m a fucking idiot.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Apr 14, 2011 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

We should start a self help group...similar to AA...Oh...wait

"I would disagree with that [statistical analysis] pretty strongly." -Buck Showalter

by jbharvey620 on Apr 14, 2011 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kevin Gregg: You have been banned from Birdland.

You know what you did.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Apr 14, 2011 10:46 PM EDT reply actions  

As someone who suffered through this

Piece of crap in person…was Pie safe at home in the eighth? Sure looked that way to me and most of the Yankees fans in my section.

by dkdc on Apr 14, 2011 10:47 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Never touched the plate.

You come at the king, you best not miss.

by organizedchaos52 on Apr 14, 2011 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

NO way...out by a mile

"I would disagree with that [statistical analysis] pretty strongly." -Buck Showalter

by jbharvey620 on Apr 14, 2011 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

nope

because he’s an idiot

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Apr 14, 2011 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

what the fuck was that slide

"you know what the orioles could use right now? a day off." - joe angel

by swilhelmross on Apr 15, 2011 6:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

on a night of turds,

thanks for writing so eloquently about it. It actually helps me deal with this a little better.

I was at a work event following on my phone and cut out to listen to the last inning in the car. That didn’t turn out well. I now have no voice from yelling to myself.

by brek on Apr 14, 2011 10:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Who Did You Want?

I get that it’s easy to pile on the “Kevin Gregg Blows” bandwagon but what makes Koji so much better in that situation? Gregg has a career BAA of .120 (3/25) vs Posada, Granderson, and Martin. I guess you forget the 2 walk offs the Yankees have had against Koji.

by GTW on Apr 14, 2011 10:48 PM EDT reply actions  

How about just leaving JJ in?

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Apr 14, 2011 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah but Koji has the advantage

Of not being Kevin gregg. I almost left the stadium when I saw him coming in, but even I was surprised by how quickly he blew the lead.

by dkdc on Apr 14, 2011 10:52 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

One pitch.

It only takes you one pitch to blow it? Really?

by ahoque24 on Apr 14, 2011 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe Koji would have at least thrown 2 pitches

Before getting on his knees

Back on the Sweed train. Choo Choo!
"It’s easy to lie with statistics, but it’s easier to lie without them." -Fred Mosteller

by John Stephens on Apr 14, 2011 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Meh

Koji has better career numbers over the last two seasons

by wishEYEhadCRABS on Apr 14, 2011 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes, as a matter of fact I did forget about those two walk offs against the Yanks. wanna know why? Koji’s K/BB ratio was 55/4 last year. Koji has always been a solid as hell reliever, and I know FOR A FACT that Koji wouldn’t have served up a first pitch fucking meatball right over the plate to the decrepit and senile Jorge fucking Posada.

"I have fear, but I am not afraid."
Music City Miracles Hall Of Fame, Class of 2010

by danielreese05 on Apr 14, 2011 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

what a ridiculous argument

you should go be BFFs with Buck.

WHO GIVES A SHIT ABOUT HIS CAREER STATS? The guy had given up 4 hits and 2 BBs int 3 innings of work so far this year. He was a perfect non-out machine. He literally had the worst WHIP of ANY PITCHER ON OUR STAFF preceding the game.

We didn’t pile onto any bandwagon. Check the gamethread: we took a poll before he threw a pitch, and every single one of us wanted someone else—ANYONE else.

"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and a little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott

by zknower on Apr 15, 2011 12:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

Thank you!

Career stats are overrated for SITUATIONAL pitchers. My only defense of Buck is that it’s early. So, you might try to work these guys through their slumps, and show them that you still have confidence in them in pressure situations. But, it’s the fucking yankees with first place on the line. Anyone with eyes has seen how that entitled troglodyte has pitched over the last two weeks. By career stats vs Posada et al, there are some retired pitchers that would qualify in that situation too. Perhaps we should try them out for our bullpen?

by Sakatadextrous on Apr 15, 2011 7:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

So much for not getting a guy in when you warm him up.

Fuck, Buck. His name is Koji.

"They're throwing bottles at your house...Come on, let's go break their arms." - Henry Fool

by Fahrenheit 451 on Apr 14, 2011 10:48 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

You know what is worse than losing?

Knowing you are going to lose any time you are in a close game against a good team. That fucking sucks.

Back on the Sweed train. Choo Choo!
"It’s easy to lie with statistics, but it’s easier to lie without them." -Fred Mosteller

by John Stephens on Apr 14, 2011 10:48 PM EDT reply actions  

lol

rec’d!

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Apr 14, 2011 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

WOW

Gregg not humbled a BIT!

“He had to do alot of things right to hit that pitch out”

“I was happy to get out of that inning without blowing it”

by Wieters Wieners on Apr 14, 2011 10:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Hint to Gregg

Giving up the tying run is blowing it.

"You can always tell Yankees fans by the total vacancy which occupies the space where most other people have faces." - J. K. O'Toole (paraphrased)

by Eat More Esskay on Apr 14, 2011 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

What a fuck tard

Back on the Sweed train. Choo Choo!
"It’s easy to lie with statistics, but it’s easier to lie without them." -Fred Mosteller

by John Stephens on Apr 14, 2011 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

hahahahahahaha

please tell me that’s not real.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Apr 14, 2011 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Seriously!

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Apr 14, 2011 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

In what warped sense of reality did you not blow it?

by BrianS on Apr 14, 2011 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Okay....so maybe he really doesn't know what he did.
"I was happy to get out of that inning without blowing it"

What the fuck does he think he did? Saved it?

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Apr 14, 2011 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah but

In his defemse, He was facing the very tough 7, 8, and 9 hitters.

by dkdc on Apr 14, 2011 10:53 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

I misquoted a bit because I just typed what I remembered.

The first quote was right but the second quote

“Was able to come back and not allow any more runs”

by Wieters Wieners on Apr 14, 2011 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s a pretty big misquote…but it’s Kevin Gregg’s fault.

by BrianS on Apr 14, 2011 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah

I blame Gregg for me misquoting him…

by Wieters Wieners on Apr 14, 2011 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I was just typing fast after the interview... I went back and listened.

But the sentiment is the same… he definitely seemed a little proud he “got out of the inning” without allowing any more runs.

I just wanted a Sarfate moment.

by Wieters Wieners on Apr 14, 2011 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why not just fuck him?

I bet he remembers that longer.

btw – do you get to watch O’s games out here? I’m paying extra for Comcast SportsNet up here in Seattle so I can watch Blazer games. Not sure I want to pay for an MLB sports package when the only games I would really watch are Baltimore.

While democracy must have its organization and controls, its vital breath is individual liberty.
- Charles Evans Hughes

by timg56 on Apr 15, 2011 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

Kevin, by definition, you blew it.

"I have fear, but I am not afraid."
Music City Miracles Hall Of Fame, Class of 2010

by danielreese05 on Apr 14, 2011 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey Kevin, you douchebag?

blown save noun (plural blown saves)
(baseball) When a pitcher fails to convert a save opportunity

YOU BLEW IT.

"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and a little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott

by zknower on Apr 15, 2011 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Jeeeesus christ

interview

and then they play the “save rule” ad.

"Initially thought I had BieberFever but turns out I have pneumonia."
-Guts

by Steve. on Apr 15, 2011 12:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

ok, after watching that,

he looks shell-shocked

he said he “basically cost us the game”

he said they let jake down.

i think he knows the wrath that’s being directed at him right now. good. maybe he’ll STFU about closing for a while.

"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and a little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott

by zknower on Apr 15, 2011 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

see and now I feel bad for him again. sounds a lot like “yeah, I know I’m a total fuck up, just please don’t hate me.”

thanks a lot.

"I have fear, but I am not afraid."
Music City Miracles Hall Of Fame, Class of 2010

by danielreese05 on Apr 15, 2011 12:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

hahaha

i just got angry again. see my quote below.

"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and a little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott

by zknower on Apr 15, 2011 12:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

FUCK KEVIN GREGG

I knew I hated his face for a reason…

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Apr 15, 2011 8:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Fuck the world.

Let’s burn it tonight. The world will feel the wrath of Camden Chat.

by WestcoastO'sFan on Apr 14, 2011 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Haha

this brightened my mood a bit

Back on the Sweed train. Choo Choo!
"It’s easy to lie with statistics, but it’s easier to lie without them." -Fred Mosteller

by John Stephens on Apr 14, 2011 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Which one of you guys posted this at Fangraphs?
Uehara? Injured? Sick? Kicked Showalter’s wife? Slept with Showalter’s dog?

by ahoque24 on Apr 14, 2011 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

ahahah

Wasn’t me but that’s funny.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Apr 14, 2011 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I quickly read it at first.

Then when I was copying it I realized what the last two sentences actually said. On another note, those two losers combined for a -.612 WPA.

by ahoque24 on Apr 14, 2011 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think it would really be the same without all the fucks

"You can always tell Yankees fans by the total vacancy which occupies the space where most other people have faces." - J. K. O'Toole (paraphrased)

by Eat More Esskay on Apr 14, 2011 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, it really should be the new CC logo.

Or maybe this should just be kevingreggsuckschat.com

by BrianS on Apr 14, 2011 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nice.

Also nice (in a way)?

Being on the west coast and not being able to watch the game and having to find out about it the next morning on CC.

At least this way I don’t have to go through all the angst and anger. It’s more like a small “Ah shit, they lost to the Yankees”, followed by a “Well, at least we got a nice performance from Arrieta.”

Much less stress that way.

While democracy must have its organization and controls, its vital breath is individual liberty.
- Charles Evans Hughes

by timg56 on Apr 15, 2011 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Haha

“After Joba Chamberlain used his big body to save a run in the eighth by blocking the plate”

http://scores.espn.go.com/mlb/recap?gameId=310414110

by Wieters Wieners on Apr 14, 2011 10:58 PM EDT reply actions  

12 million dollar loss

I hate Kevin Gregg almost as much as I hate Mike G. I don’t care how many saves Gregg had last year or how much of a fighter he is. Saves are bull and a 4 point whatever career ERA is not good for someone who is supposed to hold your lead in a tight game.

by Benhem612 on Apr 14, 2011 11:06 PM EDT reply actions  

I edited a clean version of my graphic into the front page post.

Refresh if you’d like to see it.

But it’s really not the same without all the fucks.

"You can always tell Yankees fans by the total vacancy which occupies the space where most other people have faces." - J. K. O'Toole (paraphrased)

by Eat More Esskay on Apr 14, 2011 11:10 PM EDT reply actions  

it’s really not the same without all the fucks.

That’s what she said….before punching Kevin Gregg in the face.

by BrianS on Apr 14, 2011 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just to let all of you younger fans know

a little secret….once you’re this far involved with a sports team it’s a lifelong obsession with no reprieves except for periods of total abstinence and there is no cure and there is no hope. I live in Phoenix and never watch tv and have never seen Camden Yards and I follow them exclusively through box scores, articles and blogs and get just as pissed off and sick to my stomach as if I were there. FUCK THE YANKEES….

1a) Never throw shit at an armed man.
1b) Never stand next to someone who is throwing shit at an armed man.
-from Niven's Laws-

by O'sFan_ on Apr 14, 2011 11:10 PM EDT reply actions  

I wish I lived somewhere they didn't show the fucking games

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Apr 14, 2011 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

The weather is awesome here but you have to live

with redneck idiots…..not a bad tradeoff…..

Insanity is relative. It depends on who has who locked in what cage. -Ray Bradbury-

by O'sFan_ on Apr 14, 2011 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just to set the record straight before I sack out...

I’m pretty much of a redneck idiot myself as evidenced by my lifelong obsession with a team on the other end of the world…Go O’s…….

Insanity is relative. It depends on who has who locked in what cage. -Ray Bradbury-

by O'sFan_ on Apr 14, 2011 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe we should start a club.

Redneck idiot O’s fans west of the Mississippi.

While democracy must have its organization and controls, its vital breath is individual liberty.
- Charles Evans Hughes

by timg56 on Apr 15, 2011 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think we'd have too much trouble

sorting through the applications…..we could probably get a weeks worth done during a red light…..

Insanity is relative. It depends on who has who locked in what cage. -Ray Bradbury-

by O'sFan_ on Apr 15, 2011 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well there are at least three I know of now

and znower was in Portland recently so he could be an honorary member.

While democracy must have its organization and controls, its vital breath is individual liberty.
- Charles Evans Hughes

by timg56 on Apr 15, 2011 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’d drink to that.

"I have fear, but I am not afraid."
Music City Miracles Hall Of Fame, Class of 2010

by danielreese05 on Apr 14, 2011 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Come to Oregon.

While democracy must have its organization and controls, its vital breath is individual liberty.
- Charles Evans Hughes

by timg56 on Apr 15, 2011 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

So the O's are back to winning about a game a week

business as usual in the Trembley era. But hey… the last time we won was Britton’s last start

no, not Olney. But I hear good things.

by joe from onley on Apr 14, 2011 11:19 PM EDT reply actions  

perhaps we’re overreacting. yeah, it’s 4 straight, but one of those came off the back of Tillman so it’s almost like it didn’t happen.

did we really think they’d be able to beat these last two teams? we drew a shitty hand with TEX/NYY back to back, now let’s smear the shit out of the fucking Indians because seriously, fuck those guys and their racist logo too.

"I have fear, but I am not afraid."
Music City Miracles Hall Of Fame, Class of 2010

by danielreese05 on Apr 14, 2011 11:21 PM EDT reply actions  

If they can't beat them then what's the point

And I’m a Skins fan so I don’t care about their racist logo.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Apr 14, 2011 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I really don’t either, it’s just a bunch of rah-rah bullshit to get the crowd excited.

"I have fear, but I am not afraid."
Music City Miracles Hall Of Fame, Class of 2010

by danielreese05 on Apr 14, 2011 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

There is no overreaction. We have to win these fucking games.

Instead we put in Kevin Gregg to blow the game in one pitch in the bottom of the 9th and Gonzo in the fucking bottom of the 10th so we don’t even have a chance to go a few innings extra.

"You can always tell Yankees fans by the total vacancy which occupies the space where most other people have faces." - J. K. O'Toole (paraphrased)

by Eat More Esskay on Apr 14, 2011 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I still think we’re hurting too bad without Hardy and Matusz. final judgement reserved until they’re healthy.

"I have fear, but I am not afraid."
Music City Miracles Hall Of Fame, Class of 2010

by danielreese05 on Apr 14, 2011 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

we'll be 10-15 games under by then

just resign yourself – this is a shitty team

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Apr 14, 2011 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

mediocre is where I’m putting us. we can pound on the truly shitty teams like the Rays but really can’t hang with the big guys like the Rangers and Yanks. I’d almost rather us be terrible so at least then we’d get a draft pick…

"I have fear, but I am not afraid."
Music City Miracles Hall Of Fame, Class of 2010

by danielreese05 on Apr 14, 2011 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

whatever

we’d just bungle the pick anyway

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Apr 14, 2011 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

No more draft pick bullshit. This is 2011.

"You can always tell Yankees fans by the total vacancy which occupies the space where most other people have faces." - J. K. O'Toole (paraphrased)

by Eat More Esskay on Apr 14, 2011 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Which is turning out soooo much different than 2010

and 2009, 2008, 2007, etc

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Apr 14, 2011 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

but it’s not yielding results. seems like we’re back to the debate of “do we really want this 2011 team floating around .500 for awhile if it means getting really good will take a little longer?” and “does being at .500 and using these vets actually hurt the chances of being good down the road?”

"I have fear, but I am not afraid."
Music City Miracles Hall Of Fame, Class of 2010

by danielreese05 on Apr 14, 2011 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

How does it hurt the team?

If our young players lose year after year how many of them are going to want to stay when the time comes?

by GeoffreyA on Apr 14, 2011 11:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

and the debate rages on!

"I have fear, but I am not afraid."
Music City Miracles Hall Of Fame, Class of 2010

by danielreese05 on Apr 14, 2011 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not sure how to take this..

But aside from young players development and psyche, I can’t see how you expect to lure any respectable free agent here if you can’t at least show some improvement. Face it, the kids are here. Time to suck it up and hope we can get the missing pieces.

by GeoffreyA on Apr 15, 2011 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m not agreeing nor disagreeing, I just don’t want to get into it again, I find that it stirs shit up where shit needn’t be stirred. emotions run high sometimes, I’m just licking my wounds for now.

"I have fear, but I am not afraid."
Music City Miracles Hall Of Fame, Class of 2010

by danielreese05 on Apr 15, 2011 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

I understand

I just find it ridiculous to freak out so much when we have to accept teh facts. Plain and simple, we aren’t there yet. We have to sit here watching young pitchers get shelled, young batters look bad and young fielders make errors. Doesn’t mean we have to enjoy it but we have to accept it.

Now when you come in like Gregg does and you expect to be the closer, carry yourself as teh closer and get paid like one—you better FUCKING close the game.

by GeoffreyA on Apr 15, 2011 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

pretty much.

if there was anyone on the Gregg bandwagon before the season started, it’s time to get the fuck off.

"I have fear, but I am not afraid."
Music City Miracles Hall Of Fame, Class of 2010

by danielreese05 on Apr 15, 2011 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

The sad thing is the bullpen

I would feel really good about competing for a wildcard this year if it weren’t for them. We have 2 maybe 3 good arms depending on how you feel about JJ. Not long inning guys, 7-9 inning guys. We simply don’t match up with other teams there.

by GeoffreyA on Apr 15, 2011 12:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

loving Koji, loving Berken, Loving JJ for sentimental reasons, liking the two-headed Tillesen in the LR spot ok, kind of hating the rest.

"I have fear, but I am not afraid."
Music City Miracles Hall Of Fame, Class of 2010

by danielreese05 on Apr 15, 2011 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

bullshit we're not there yet

that’s not the takeaway from tonight.

the takeaway from tonight is that our young talent and bats kept the yankees down for 8-1/2 innings and then buck made the wrong call.

this is most definitely a game to be pinned on the manager.

"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and a little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott

by zknower on Apr 15, 2011 12:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

somewhat agree about us being there, but the bats are just barely doing enough at this point. someone other than Nick and Mark has got to start hitting. Vlad looks ok but I don’t trust him to go deep into the season at all. Brian doesn’t look bad either, but the rest of the lineup looks like chopped shit. if Jones and Wieters don’t hit then I’m afraid we’re screwed.

"I have fear, but I am not afraid."
Music City Miracles Hall Of Fame, Class of 2010

by danielreese05 on Apr 15, 2011 12:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

this is true.

derek lee really looks awful.

"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and a little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott

by zknower on Apr 15, 2011 12:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

this is also true

and really, Pie could not have looked more bush league on that play. that was a big run we gave up.

"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and a little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott

by zknower on Apr 15, 2011 12:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not sure why everyone is overreacting one way or another.

We didn’t expect to be that good this year and maybe we aren’t. We won 2 series and we’ve lost 2 series. This was unexpected? I mean if someone told you pre-season that we would be 6-5 at this point, what would your answer have been?

by GeoffreyA on Apr 14, 2011 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

kind of what I’m thinking. I think we should just take this team as it is: a middle of the road bunch that could go either way but are probably going to end up with like 80 wins.

"I have fear, but I am not afraid."
Music City Miracles Hall Of Fame, Class of 2010

by danielreese05 on Apr 14, 2011 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

leaving yankee stadium with a split...

..and in sole possession of first place would have done wonders for the psyche of this team.

"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and a little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott

by zknower on Apr 15, 2011 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yup..

I don’t want to be over dramatic but a split here could potentially have swung this season.

by GeoffreyA on Apr 15, 2011 12:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

mock me all you want.

that’s not remotely what I said.

There is a difference in a team that leaves Yankee Stadium with a 50-50 split and heads to Cleveland in first place and one that loses in the exact same late inning fashion that they have repeatedly for the last couple of years.

Believe it or not, every game counts, and losing our first 1-run game in such a despicable fashion is not something easy to swallow. Nor should it be.

"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and a little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott

by zknower on Apr 15, 2011 12:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

I wasn't mocking you

I’m completely on your side dude

by GeoffreyA on Apr 15, 2011 12:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

sorry....

I misread based on your earlier comment. Please excuse. I’m just really pissed right now.

Especially pissed that buck is “tipping his cap” instead of being angry. Maybe the angry comes out behind closed doors.

"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and a little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott

by zknower on Apr 15, 2011 12:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

No worries...

I just feel when we’re there, the young hitters will come through with 1st and 3rd and 1 out. It’s what a playoff team does, not what we do at the moment. Sometimes, I thinkt eh moment seems to big for them.

by GeoffreyA on Apr 15, 2011 1:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

It reads much offense if you were mocking him,

no offense zk.

If you look at those UZR ratings or whatever

by dfa on Apr 15, 2011 1:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

ahh,

“It reads much funnier if you were mocking him,” is what I meant.

If you look at those UZR ratings or whatever

by dfa on Apr 15, 2011 1:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

haha it does, it's true.

"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and a little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott

by zknower on Apr 15, 2011 1:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

I agree with what you say/said

I’m just trying to soothe teh wound some. I feel like I care more about this team than some of teh players. Offensively, we should just trade Scott and bring up Reimold in my opinion. I’m not a fan of teh guys but we’ve got to stop this petty NL bullshit where we play one guy for offense and one for defense. Learn to play both or go the fuck away.

I’m not certain what the issue was tonight with Buck but I feel he gets a pass for a bit. He has shown a track record of making these terrible decisions, has he?

by GeoffreyA on Apr 15, 2011 1:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

lol

it’s just because my right and types faster than my left. It happens on almost any word with "H’ and “a,e”.

by GeoffreyA on Apr 15, 2011 1:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

Waht hte fcuk aer yuo talkign abuot, he tyeps fien.

"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.

by Titov on Apr 15, 2011 1:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Kind of hard to split 3 games (it is a 3 game series, right?)

Get a win tonight and they are back to being tied. The takeaway should be that we at least got one and we should have gotten two, we’re still in 1st and there are lots of games left to play.

While democracy must have its organization and controls, its vital breath is individual liberty.
- Charles Evans Hughes

by timg56 on Apr 15, 2011 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

First game was rained out - we played 2 games against MFY.

The Washington Wizards: providing career scoring nights for unknown opposing bench players since 2004.

by mamemimo on Apr 15, 2011 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

Forgot about the rainout.

Living in the Pacific NW, we don’t even notice rain.

While democracy must have its organization and controls, its vital breath is individual liberty.
- Charles Evans Hughes

by timg56 on Apr 15, 2011 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

we play cleveland tonight

"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and a little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott

by zknower on Apr 15, 2011 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

That would be

.500 baseball. Just what everybody thought we would do.

by thezeroes on Apr 15, 2011 8:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not having JJ Hardy or Brian Matusz is not why we lost this game.

"You can always tell Yankees fans by the total vacancy which occupies the space where most other people have faces." - J. K. O'Toole (paraphrased)

by Eat More Esskay on Apr 14, 2011 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Matusz? you’re right. having Hardy in the lineup? debatable.

"I have fear, but I am not afraid."
Music City Miracles Hall Of Fame, Class of 2010

by danielreese05 on Apr 14, 2011 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cesar got two hits and scored two runs tonight.

That’s not going to be a very long debate.

"You can always tell Yankees fans by the total vacancy which occupies the space where most other people have faces." - J. K. O'Toole (paraphrased)

by Eat More Esskay on Apr 14, 2011 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

he also made a couple of great plays

"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and a little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott

by zknower on Apr 15, 2011 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe we are. But in 13 seasons of losing, it seems like there’s a couple games that stand out, like the MDM, 30-3, Jack Cust, last year’s opening day…this one sort of seems like it’s close to being in that anti-Pantheon.

by BrianS on Apr 14, 2011 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

we could definitely have beaten the Yankees tonight.

we are certainly good enough to do so.

"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and a little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott

by zknower on Apr 15, 2011 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

probably even should have, but losing this game in the way we lost it just kind of took the wind out of my sails completely.

"I have fear, but I am not afraid."
Music City Miracles Hall Of Fame, Class of 2010

by danielreese05 on Apr 15, 2011 12:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

SO just to be clear

We spend 18 of our payroll on 2 guys that are terrible BP arms but THINK they are good?

by GeoffreyA on Apr 14, 2011 11:36 PM EDT reply actions  

all I have to say is

We all knew what was going to happen with Gregg and it sucked to see it in person.

YET, Yankee fans are such bitches that they were leaving at the top of the 9th, not even the bottom of the 9th inning. I was in disbelief at first, but since they are Yankee fans and I had grown up with them my whole life, I was in less belief. BEAT-THE-TRAFFIC.

You would think they would stick it out, and you know who did, the motha f-in O’s fans that I looked around and noticed in the stands.

That’s f-in Birdland. Knowing Kevin Gregg is on the mound and secretly knowing you are about to lose a great game in an apposing stadium, but having the faith that JUST MAYBE they would find a way to win. Was an exciting game, while it lasted

….

"Birdland is the belief that as great as today just was, tomorrow might be even better." -EME

by OriolesOptimist on Apr 14, 2011 11:58 PM EDT reply actions  

That screen name is no joke

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by daveh873 on Apr 15, 2011 8:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hey Kevin Gregg: Eб твою мать, сука!

Welcome to the past, the land where 5-0 leads are meaningless. Meaningless. Did I mention meaningless?

Welp, tonight at the Jake it’s Zach, with his embarrassing 0.66 ERA — why can’t the guy get his act together, like Guts (0.64…which is also his WHIP)?

Maybe the Native American mgt will run a Guaranteed Loss Nite promotion. On the other hand, Zach prolly watched last night’s game: he may figure What’s the point— leads are meaningless.

Who needs Kevin @#$%ing Gregg when we’ve got Jak-o-lantern Bauskas anyway? Kill the former, pls, and

Go O’s!

"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.

by Titov on Apr 15, 2011 12:02 AM EDT reply actions  

I missed the ending

But why the fuck wasn’t Koji used but the shitard Gregg was used?

Folksy literate type.

by birdman on Apr 15, 2011 12:19 AM EDT reply actions  

That's the great big mystery

"You can always tell Yankees fans by the total vacancy which occupies the space where most other people have faces." - J. K. O'Toole (paraphrased)

by Eat More Esskay on Apr 15, 2011 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

none of us can answer this

"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and a little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott

by zknower on Apr 15, 2011 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

why the fuck indeed

"Initially thought I had BieberFever but turns out I have pneumonia."
-Guts

by Steve. on Apr 15, 2011 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

Also, what the fuck is this?
“I basically got ambushed [and] didn’t make a good pitch,” Gregg said.

What the hell do you mean you got ‘ambushed’? Did you not know that Jorge was up? Did you not have the entire half-inning to plan what you’d throw to him? Did you not take warmup pitches to get a feel for the mound?

Do you even know what ‘ambushed’ means? Hint: it’s not what happened to you.

"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and a little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott

by zknower on Apr 15, 2011 12:39 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

lol

Maybe he just assumes that hitters are going to take a strike to give him a chance to get nice and loose AFTER his warmup pitches! That’s not cool swinging at the first pitch like that Jorge!

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Apr 15, 2011 12:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

“no, no, no, no NO! FUCK YOU JORGE I SAID I WASN’T READY YET!”

"I have fear, but I am not afraid."
Music City Miracles Hall Of Fame, Class of 2010

by danielreese05 on Apr 15, 2011 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

ahaha

Interference! I CALL INTERFERENCE!!!

DO-OVER!!

"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and a little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott

by zknower on Apr 15, 2011 12:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Keving Gregg

This isn’t fucking Nintendo and there isn’t a fucking reset button

by GeoffreyA on Apr 15, 2011 12:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe he wasn't expecting that the batters swing at the pitches?

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Apr 15, 2011 8:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

Kevin...

…hopefully the real ambush comes when you get back to Baltimore.

Fan-dabby-dozy.....tastic.....

by Jonny Pops on Apr 15, 2011 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

Angrier still

Here’s Buck’s interview.

I’m impressed with the way Kevin came back … you know it’s his 4th outing, and the first run he gave up. Tells you something about his moxie, he came back and got us in the dugout.

Seriously? Does Buck not realize that Gregg’s has given up nearly as many walks and hits (7) as outs he’s recorded this year? Could someone please explain WHIP to him?

Does he not realize that the first three outings sucked?

"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and a little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott

by zknower on Apr 15, 2011 12:48 AM EDT reply actions  

and of course

no mention of the save rule

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Apr 15, 2011 12:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

more buck

from Britt:

Showalter said he used Gonzalez in the 10th over Koji Uehara, the team’s primary closer last season, because he liked the matchups better with the left-hander in the game. Had the Orioles taken the lead and needed to finish the game, he would have used Uehara.

So, Koji would have finished the tenth with the lead. But not the ninth? Why, exactly?

"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and a little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott

by zknower on Apr 15, 2011 12:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

Your boss signs a guy and says he's the closer, and I guess you gotta let him fuck up a couple games.

I’m still pissed about it, but we can only hope that now Buck will go back to his “I like the win rule more”.

"You can always tell Yankees fans by the total vacancy which occupies the space where most other people have faces." - J. K. O'Toole (paraphrased)

by Eat More Esskay on Apr 15, 2011 12:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

but seriously?
  1. How can you let him fuck up the game against a division archrival? Let him fuckup games in Cleveland
  2. Buck seems to think he’s just fine since “this is the first run he gave up so far.” Does he actually think Gregg is pitching well right now?

"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and a little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott

by zknower on Apr 15, 2011 1:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

did he forget that gregg almost lost us that game in tampa bay?

this is the first time ive been REALLY disappointed in buck. i hope he doesn’t make a habit of it.

"Girls laughed at me my whole life, doesn't mean I was funny"
-Gary Thorne

by scohen on Apr 15, 2011 1:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

I certainly don't have answers to those questions.

I guess I still want to believe in Buck and so I hope there is some excuse. Really it fucking sucks that there was any rationale whatsoever to put Kevin Gregg in this game (or indeed, put him on the fucking roster to begin with). Maybe another pitcher would have blown the game, but as long as it wasn’t Gonzo (who has also well-demonstrated his inherent shittiness) I wouldn’t have been this mad about it. We could have won this game and our Why The Fuck Does Andy MacPhail Keep Giving $10 Million Contracts To Shitty Relievers Tandem decided to fuck Birdland over instead.

"You can always tell Yankees fans by the total vacancy which occupies the space where most other people have faces." - J. K. O'Toole (paraphrased)

by Eat More Esskay on Apr 15, 2011 1:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

gonzo was really, really good last year after he came back. he was one of the best pitchers on the team, actually.

"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and a little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott

by zknower on Apr 15, 2011 1:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

I know we're all pissed,

but I think there is value in Buck not dissing Gregg in the media. If Buck continues to put Gregg in high leverage situations with similar results, than it’s fair to question Buck on this issue. I guess what I’m saying is that the actions are more important.

If you look at those UZR ratings or whatever

by dfa on Apr 15, 2011 1:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Disagree

It’s games like this that make me long for Ozzie Guillen as our manager

"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King

by duck on Apr 15, 2011 7:25 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

yeah no shit

why does nobody in this organization understand WHIP? why does nobody in this organization realize that a pitcher with a high WHIP is not somebody you want on the mound to hold a lead in a key situation? I’m growing so frustrated with how goddamn fucking stupid these assholes are. We put in a good game last night. Our starter did a good job. The offense was there. We have a decent pitcher who can close in our bullpen. But sheer incompetence on the part of management sealed our fate.

Fan-dabby-dozy.....tastic.....

by Jonny Pops on Apr 15, 2011 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

What do you expect him to say?

It has always been my impression that mental attitude is a big part of being a closer. Buck’s going to say something in public that maybe impacts Gregg’s attitude?

And who is he going to turn to as a closer if not Gregg at this point in time? By all accounts here Gonzales isn’t the answer. I love Koji as much as anyone, but don’t you think Showalter has to consider his fragility?

I have to think that Buck understands what a seaon involves and just may be thinking longer term. Giving the ball to Gregg in the 9th at this point of the season, even if you know it is risking a loss, may be the only real option he has. Just like taking Arrieta out after 6 innings and 90 pitches. I’d rather have a manager who understands that young pitchers can be over used and saving Jake’s arm to last the whole season is more important than this one game.

While democracy must have its organization and controls, its vital breath is individual liberty.
- Charles Evans Hughes

by timg56 on Apr 15, 2011 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Dude

We needed a win and we needed it then. Stop making excuses for the sorry display of management we saw last night. You’re doing Carmela Soprano calibre enabling above.

Fan-dabby-dozy.....tastic.....

by Jonny Pops on Apr 15, 2011 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

There is a place for saying things behind closed doors,

we have zero idea what Buck really thinks. His actions will tell us.

If you look at those UZR ratings or whatever

by dfa on Apr 15, 2011 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

His actions told us...

….that he fucked the dog with his bullpen decisions last night.

Fan-dabby-dozy.....tastic.....

by Jonny Pops on Apr 15, 2011 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

It is interesting how many fans (regardless of the sport) are convinced they

could manage a team better than the guys actually doing it.

Of course there are lots of folks who think they could run the country better than the President (no matter who he is).

Both sets of people are delusional.

While democracy must have its organization and controls, its vital breath is individual liberty.
- Charles Evans Hughes

by timg56 on Apr 15, 2011 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

And who is he going to turn to as a closer if not Gregg at this point in time?

ANYONE else.

And we don’t need a “closer.” And if Gregg’s “attitude” is impacted, then he needs to harden the fuck up. He’s clearly wihtout a closer mentality as it is anyway.

"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and a little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott

by zknower on Apr 15, 2011 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

JaMarcus Russell got fired by his life coach. how the fuck does that even work?

"I have fear, but I am not afraid."
Music City Miracles Hall Of Fame, Class of 2010

by danielreese05 on Apr 15, 2011 12:48 AM EDT reply actions  

woops, wrong thread…

"I have fear, but I am not afraid."
Music City Miracles Hall Of Fame, Class of 2010

by danielreese05 on Apr 15, 2011 12:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

"I was happy to get out of the NFL without blowing it"

If you look at those UZR ratings or whatever

by dfa on Apr 15, 2011 1:27 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Tonight was an abomination.

I was at the game and the second they put in Gregg I knew it was all over. I should have drank more tonight.

"maybe its just me but i think if the os cant get more rbis they arenever going to win why not get zito or another proven veteran in hear" - zknower

by Emperor Lrrr on Apr 15, 2011 12:57 AM EDT reply actions  

On the bright side

The Yankees still only have 1-1/2 starters. Phil Hughes is a train wreck.

"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and a little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott

by zknower on Apr 15, 2011 12:58 AM EDT reply actions  

If they put Bartolo Colon in the rotation, they suddenly have 3.5 starters

"You can always tell Yankees fans by the total vacancy which occupies the space where most other people have faces." - J. K. O'Toole (paraphrased)

by Eat More Esskay on Apr 15, 2011 12:59 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

If they put Bartolo Colon in the rotation,

his gravitational mass will pull all the other starters into his orbit and collapse the Yankee Universe.

"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and a little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott

by zknower on Apr 15, 2011 1:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think even his gravitational mass could do that

A massive black hole couldn’t even suck teh egos of those *&%(^#$ into it…

by GeoffreyA on Apr 15, 2011 1:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

If you notice Sabathia, Colon and Chamberlain are never in the bullpen at the same time.

Otherwise the weight would cause the bullpen to collapse into the center of the Earth while sucking the rest of the Bronx with it.

"maybe its just me but i think if the os cant get more rbis they arenever going to win why not get zito or another proven veteran in hear" - zknower

by Emperor Lrrr on Apr 15, 2011 1:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Three words: Specific. Density. Enhanced.

This is the politically correct way to indicate an impending supernova, thus avoiding lawsuits and/or harassment charges. From, y’know, novas really low on self-esteem ‘n’ stuff.

"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.

by Titov on Apr 15, 2011 1:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

where were you when we were gettin' high?

"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and a little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott

by zknower on Apr 15, 2011 1:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Please don't relate one of my favorite bands with the Yankee rotation

If Joba walked out to Supermassive Black Hole, i’d laugh and then go into a deep depression because I could never hear the song again.

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by daveh873 on Apr 15, 2011 8:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

i love muse

but that song blows

"I have spent most of the day putting in a comma and the rest of the day taking it out." --Oscar Wilde

A Crocodile Never Cries (a story, discretion advised)

by Luke E on Apr 15, 2011 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Arrieta

Nice game by Jake.

Above there was a discussion about the draft pick issue, which I don’t want to get into, but I don’t want to forget that Arrieta had a real nice game against a phenomenal lineup. Progress, not perfection.

If you look at those UZR ratings or whatever

by dfa on Apr 15, 2011 1:24 AM EDT reply actions  

True

and much better than even the stat line shows.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Apr 15, 2011 1:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

particularly since

he started shaky and then settled in. and finished an inning strong after giving up a couple of runs.

"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and a little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott

by zknower on Apr 15, 2011 1:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

giving up a couple runs

that never should have scored if there had been a real left fielder playing.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Apr 15, 2011 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yep.

While democracy must have its organization and controls, its vital breath is individual liberty.
- Charles Evans Hughes

by timg56 on Apr 15, 2011 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

We probably would have won if Koji had come in instead of Gregg,

I get that. I think what Gregg needs is more work in non-save situations, more frequently. He’s appeared in four games so far this season, with three days rest in between (you can see for yourself here. Once he starts getting into games more often, I think he’ll settle down. He’s been an effective closer, but I know from watching him last year that he does struggle with hits and walks. He gave up that homer to stupid Posada, but he did settle down and get three outs without another run, with runners on base, which is more than I think some people could have done.

no, not Olney. But I hear good things.

by joe from onley on Apr 15, 2011 4:22 AM EDT reply actions  

damnit

forgot to close my parentheses. But yeah, short version, Gregg’s blown one save, and converted another (albeit barely). Give him some time. Also, jeez, some people need glasses.

no, not Olney. But I hear good things.

by joe from onley on Apr 15, 2011 4:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

Gregg and Gonzo

Combined that’s about 9 million to suck.

"Have a good time...all the time." - Viv Savage

by Jergs on Apr 15, 2011 7:08 AM EDT reply actions  

Why?

Are the Orioles always willing to overpay for subpar relief pitchers but when it comes to position players they hold off?

"Have a good time...all the time." - Viv Savage

by Jergs on Apr 15, 2011 7:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well..

I was hoping I wouldn’t have to break this out at all this season… especially not this early, but 4 in a row seems appropriate…

Drink up everyone.

Jioe Flaacco, Hon!!! "He’s like a live JUGS machine."

by dayzd toe on Apr 15, 2011 8:04 AM EDT reply actions  

And for the record

I was pissed as a motherfucker when I saw Gregg coming in… JJ looked to get his shit together after a rough first couple of batters. Then I was even more pissed than a motherfucker when it took all of ONE fucking pitch to decide that the O’s were not going to win that game. But then I got a glimmer of hope when Gregg struck out the next two batters and got a soft ground ball out. I thought to myself “He got it to together and was dealin’ after the HR-2B.” Then I saw this douchebag enter the game…

and I reached a whole new level of anger I never knew existed in this world. But still, I couldn’t turn the game off… I just sat there, my eyes affixed to the devastation that lay before me.

Jioe Flaacco, Hon!!! "He’s like a live JUGS machine."

by dayzd toe on Apr 15, 2011 8:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ah, dayzd! It's good to have your articulate voice of immoderation back!

"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.

by Titov on Apr 15, 2011 9:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks to the cold light of day, I can look back with renewed perspective

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by mpire on Apr 15, 2011 8:25 AM EDT reply actions  

No open thread today?

Back on the Sweed train. Choo Choo!
"It’s easy to lie with statistics, but it’s easier to lie without them." -Fred Mosteller

by John Stephens on Apr 15, 2011 8:29 AM EDT reply actions  

I think we all saw enough Bird Droppings last night.

by BrianS on Apr 15, 2011 9:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well played

Back on the Sweed train. Choo Choo!
"It’s easy to lie with statistics, but it’s easier to lie without them." -Fred Mosteller

by John Stephens on Apr 15, 2011 9:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

So WTF with the post-game bullshit?

Johnson and Hunter with their “oh, well, that’s baseball” crap. They sure as fuck didn’t let Tillman off the hook as easily as they did Gregg. Just a real shitty ending to this one all around.

Oh, and I recommend Gonzo take Kevin aside and give him a little pep talk: "Mira, Kev: When Buck runs you out in the 9th at Camden, they’re going to boo you. My advice to you is to not give a shit, develop a little “soreness” in the shoulder, spend the summer on the DL and get PZZZAID! Dig?"

"They're throwing bottles at your house...Come on, let's go break their arms." - Henry Fool

by Fahrenheit 451 on Apr 15, 2011 8:32 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

lol

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Apr 15, 2011 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's a shitty organization...

…populated by a bunch of people who have been conditioned to accept losing and all of its facets.

Fan-dabby-dozy.....tastic.....

by Jonny Pops on Apr 15, 2011 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Since we’re “analyzing” what went on last night I’d just say the Os did NOT make the big defensive plays when it mattered. I think with Luke out there, you get what you get, and Nicky’s drop was just a tough play — no blame for him clearly. But those plays get made and it’s a win.

Meanwhile, Swisher, Jeter, Chamberlain and, earlier, Granderson all stepped up on Defense at key Moments.

by thewaywardO on Apr 15, 2011 9:15 AM EDT reply actions  

No Overreaction Here

Dear Kevin Gregg,

Climb a fence of dicks.

Sincerely,
Me

When in Rome, do as the Romans do. When in Baltimore, do as I tell you to.

by NSOsFan on Apr 15, 2011 9:16 AM EDT reply actions  

lmao

a fence of dicks?

Back on the Sweed train. Choo Choo!
"It’s easy to lie with statistics, but it’s easier to lie without them." -Fred Mosteller

by John Stephens on Apr 15, 2011 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm so fucking pissed off about this.

Why the fuck does dumbass me know how to manage the bullpen better than Buck Showalter? It’s un-fucking-believable. This was a game we needed to win early on and our manager failed us, miserably, with repeated ineptitude in his bullpen choices.

Fan-dabby-dozy.....tastic.....

by Jonny Pops on Apr 15, 2011 10:07 AM EDT reply actions  

Felix's slide

I also am depressed because I knew, when the Yankees started coming back, that we would lose the game. This is not a good attitude to have.

I don’t understand why Felix did not level the pitcher, who was blocking home plate. Instead, Felix was looking for an opening to insert his foot. If a pitcher is blocking the plate, the runner has the right to go straight through him. I guarantee you that Frank Robinson would have put Joba on his fanny.

by BaltoBen on Apr 15, 2011 10:35 AM EDT reply actions  

KOOLAID FOR BREAKFAST!!!!

GO O’s !!!!!!………Buck will learn from his errors…..KG and MG will have monster bullpen years….Matusz comes back healthy and wins 15……Britton is unanimous ROY….. Vlad hits 30 homers and drives in 105…..etc. etc. etc……..Go O’s……

Insanity is relative. It depends on who has who locked in what cage. -Ray Bradbury-

by O'sFan_ on Apr 15, 2011 11:00 AM EDT reply actions  

Since my hippie days were in the 70's and not the 90's

I have no familiarity with ecstasy…..I’ll go for self delusion and a waffle though….

Insanity is relative. It depends on who has who locked in what cage. -Ray Bradbury-

by O'sFan_ on Apr 15, 2011 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

You must be one of the few people here ...

… older than me.

Hippies were starting to disappear by the time I graduated HS in the middle of the decade.

Of course I later found out they all just moved to Oregon.

While democracy must have its organization and controls, its vital breath is individual liberty.
- Charles Evans Hughes

by timg56 on Apr 15, 2011 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

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