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Monday Bird Droppings

 

School of Roch: No game, no pain - MASN
"Reynolds has gone on a home run binge, which can serve as a handy distraction from the defensive miscues. Pie is an extra outfielder, not a part of the everyday lineup. But Matusz was supposed to be the No. 2 starter and a budding ace. His velocity and command haven't returned. It's a process, but Showalter said he expected Matusz to be farther along after the left-hander's stay at extended spring training, four minor league rehab starts and three major league outings. Showalter didn't commit to giving Matusz another start this week. Could he be headed back to the disabled list? To Triple-A Norfolk?"

Steve Melewski: No June swoon for Reynolds - MASN
"After starting June hitless in five at-bats in the month's first two games, he is 8-for-24 with five homers and 11 RBIs. His June OPS is 1.244 after he picked up his first two-homer game as an Oriole last night. It was his 10th career two-homer game. After picking up five hits, three of them homers, over the last three games, Reynolds is now batting .205. This is his highest average since he was at .212 on April 19."

Matusz, Pie, defense - baltimoresun.com
"With Derrek Lee returning Tuesday and Luke Scott moving back to left field, it’s real hard to foresee Pie getting much playing time going forward barring an injury to an outfielder. It will be interesting if the Orioles trade Pie before the July 31 trade deadline."

Orioles to lighten rookie LHP Britton's workload - USATODAY.com
"Showalter says he wants to conserve Britton, who already has thrown 82 innings and has never pitched more than 154 since being drafted in 2006. Showalter says, 'We have X number of innings we want Zach to pitch. We don't want to shut him down in August.'"

Five Keys to Watch in Frederick - Camden Depot
"Of interest to me this morning is the fact that Baltimore has announced that they have come to terms with 5th Rounder Matt Taylor (lhp, Middle Georgia Coll.). While it isn't uncommon for a 5th Rounder to sign this quickly, the fact that Baltimore is inking a JuCo player to a slot deal in the early rounds is solid news."

Evaluating catchers: Quantifying the framing pitches skill - Hardball Times

"According to the analysis presented here, the best catchers at framing pitches can add something like one or two wins per season, which is the equivalent of trading Alex Rodriguez's 2010 bat (.270/.341/.506, 30 HR, 125 RBI, 19 runs above replacement) with Alex Rios' lumber in the same year (.284/.334/.457, 11 HR, 45 RBI, nine runs above replacement)." The number could even be a conservative estimate. In fact, as soon as a pitcher realizes his catcher gives him an edge on borderline pitches, he should immediately begin to exploit the advantage. If the magnitude of the framing effect measured in this study is confirmed, major league teams should not neglect this factor when they go hunting for a catcher in the market, especially those with pitching staffs that make their living on the black."

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WRT Mr. Zrebiec's contention that fans should have gone for the ball when a player obviously has a play

We are not Yankees fans. We have been burned by stupid fans interferring on game changing plays and just because it is over the fence, I am happy that the fan moved back and allowed the player to make the play even though it hurt our score. That shows some class.

by Benhem612 on Jun 13, 2011 8:47 AM EDT reply actions  

No.

If the player comes onto the fans’ side of the fence, it’s the fans’ right (and I’d argue responsibility if it helps the home team) to go after the ball. He’s not talking about interference.

Felix Pie is a ninja robot sent from the future to make everything adorable.

by Stacey on Jun 13, 2011 9:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

I won't blame a fan for going for it on the other side of the fence

but I also will not blame them for letting a play unfold. I recognize it is the fan’s right to go after a memento from the game but I am there as an observer of the game and not a game changer.

by Benhem612 on Jun 13, 2011 9:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

well we just 100% disagree

Part of being a home town fan is doing just that.

Felix Pie is a ninja robot sent from the future to make everything adorable.

by Stacey on Jun 13, 2011 9:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

I would go as far to say you have a duty to prevent that play from being made

or at least attempting. Its like being the guy in the emergency exit aisle on a plane. Don’t want that responsibility? Don’t sit there.

by kba26 on Jun 13, 2011 9:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

Haha so far we haven't had that problem.

I am able to remain sanctimonious from the nosebleeds and let others do the dirty work at the fences.

In all honesty, my issue would probably be more along the lines of, “Oooh look the ball is coming towards me Yey!” and I wouldn’t have time to reflect on whether the play might be able to be made.

by Benhem612 on Jun 13, 2011 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sit at 3rd base line, see popup coming over, punch A-Rod in the face to prevent play?

"I think we consider too much the luck of the early bird and not enough the bad luck of the early worm." ~ FDR

by NSOsFan on Jun 13, 2011 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

vulgarian!

why go that far when he is clearly susceptible to popcorn being thrown in his face?

"the secret to a happy ending is knowing when to roll the credits"

by j.q. higgins on Jun 13, 2011 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Trying to cause physical harm to the player is over the line

but knocking the ball out of his glove, or standing right up against the barrier and bracing yourself so he runs into you? Totally fair game.

by kba26 on Jun 13, 2011 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Class?

I think it shows a lack of engagement and understanding of the game. You only move out of the way for your own players, not the other teams. That’s baseball fan 101.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Jun 13, 2011 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Spectators sit in the fucking stands

if the ball goes into the stands it’s up for grabs for the spectators. There is no other way to view it.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Jun 13, 2011 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

No way

Baseball is one of the few sports where fans can actually make a real, concrete difference. Sure, you can make noise in football and whatever, but in baseball you can save your team outs. That’s huge. I will continue to come down on fans at games who let opposing players make plays in the stands. If someone doesn’t care about the game (and their team) enough to go for the ball and save the team a run (which is completely within the rules), then they shouldn’t be sitting there.

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Jun 13, 2011 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Haha

One idiot on ESPN suggested just completely re-doing both leagues based on geographic location. He moved us to the NL and put us in the “Southeast Division” with the Marlins, Braves, Rays, and Nats. His new AL East was Yankees, Red Sox, Phillies, Jays, and someone else (Pirates maybe?). I mean I would love that, but how do you actually get paid to write for ESPN when you’re suggesting that the solution to fixing the imbalance of the divisions is to add the Phillies to the AL East?

Less big words and more exclamation marks

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jun 13, 2011 9:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think the Mets were the other team in the AL East

I kinda like that actually.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jun 13, 2011 9:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly!

Then all of those teams can bitch about the alignment not being fair when 1 or more of those massive spenders misses the playoffs.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jun 13, 2011 9:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh yeah you're right

Even crazier

Less big words and more exclamation marks

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jun 13, 2011 9:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

haha a boston fan floated a similar idea - with 4 divisions...Shoot me now

Eastern Division:
Boston Red Sox
Baltimore Orioles
New York Yankees
New York Mets
Philadelphia Phillies
Pittsburgh Pirates
Toronto Blue Jays

by Benhem612 on Jun 13, 2011 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

the idiot is Jim Bowden

Here’s the link

Like a bad, suave dude. You know what I'm sayin'. COOL. SC 7/24/08

by 33 on Jun 13, 2011 9:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

With the exception of that Eastern Division

The rest of the plan is actually really good. The other divisions have have some really interesting matchups.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jun 13, 2011 9:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Evidence it was not a well-thought out plan:
The division winner with the conference’s best record, the No. 1 seed, would play the No. 6 seed; the team with the second-best record, the No. 2 seed, would play the No. 5 seed, etc. The first round of the playoffs would be a best-of-five series. The next rounds would be best-of-seven series.

So then you have 3 teams in the 2nd round?

by kba26 on Jun 13, 2011 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yea...didn't read that part.

I was just looking at his realignment.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jun 13, 2011 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

And EVERY road game outside of the division would be Central, Mountain or Pacific time

With something like 2/3 of them being Pacific time. That’s brilliant.

"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King

by duck on Jun 13, 2011 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm okay with that.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jun 13, 2011 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

ugh

how can we make more money by cramming another made up rivalry down your throat. Fuck it – lets just give every team participation trophies and go to pizza hut. we already know MLB wants a red sox – yankees world series. They will figure it out.

by Philly O's on Jun 13, 2011 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

I like that plan a lot

But if there are five playoff teams from each league, does that mean the first place team gets a bye? We’ve seen that a long layoff isn’t always the best thing in baseball.

Rob Neyer wrote about it also: http://mlb.sbnation.com/2011/6/12/2219728/mlb-realignment-bring-it-on

Felix Pie is a ninja robot sent from the future to make everything adorable.

by Stacey on Jun 13, 2011 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Honest question -

would realiging the leagues have much impact without fixing the payroll inequities? I am semi lost on the intent behing realignment.

by Benhem612 on Jun 13, 2011 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

It wouldn't really do anything

I guess you’d have high payroll teams visiting teams that were previously not in their division more often, potentially raising gate revenues in those cities. The bigger impact is reducing the impact of an unbalanced schedule, so that small-market teams won’t always be stuck behind the same big-market teams.

by kba26 on Jun 13, 2011 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ah well I am for that.

Potentially would that make it easier for the Orioles to get free agents then? Since they wouldn’t be playing Boston and New York so many times? If so I say let’s do it.

by Benhem612 on Jun 13, 2011 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

That's my thing right there
they wouldn’t be playing Boston and New York so many times

Balanced schedule is my vote, realignment isn’t the main issue. I’ll take realignment too though, but that’s like going around the problem instead of fixing it directly to me.

Less big words and more exclamation marks

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jun 13, 2011 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

It would balance the schedule...

If every team plays the same schedule, then theoretically every team faces the same aggregate level of competition. Plus, you won’t have a terrible team (like someone from the AL Central) getting into the playoffs while someone good but in a great division (the odd man out between the Yankees, Red Sox, and Rays this year) missing out.

It doesn’t achieve true competitive balance, but it is a step in that direction.

by Holymittens on Jun 13, 2011 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

James did a thorough review of rounds 1-5 that will post at 2 p.m.

So everyone come back then to check it out!

Felix Pie is a ninja robot sent from the future to make everything adorable.

by Stacey on Jun 13, 2011 9:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

I can predict this write-up already, but I'll wait till 2

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jun 13, 2011 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

I dunno, James might surprise you!

Felix Pie is a ninja robot sent from the future to make everything adorable.

by Stacey on Jun 13, 2011 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think he will be happy with what we got.

The unhappiness comes from not signing them, then he shows he was born a cranky 50 year old man.

"I think we consider too much the luck of the early bird and not enough the bad luck of the early worm." ~ FDR

by NSOsFan on Jun 13, 2011 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

i thought he said he was fine with the draft?

I would like to know if he’s concerned that the draft was so college arms heavy.

Folksy literate type.

by birdman on Jun 13, 2011 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly,

thats why he’ll just be apathetic and not disgusted

by kba26 on Jun 13, 2011 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

The paragraph about Pie in Zrebiec's post makes me sad.

Mostly because it’s all true.

"Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs." -- Earl Weaver

by Vuff on Jun 13, 2011 10:24 AM EDT reply actions  

Anyone else experiencing Orioles ennui?

I came home Saturday after a long day of kids sports and a school show. I turned the O’s game on the radio in the 5th inning. Heard them battle out a close game for what seemed like a series win, only to have Gregg flub it. I didn’t curse or have much of a reaction. My first thought was along the lines of “this is what the Orioles do”. I heard zero of Sunday’s game, but I guess that was an even worse stinker.

I watch/coach some pretty dismal kids sports because I’m a parent. Sometimes the teams are OK, but you still quickly forget because it all means nothing in the grand scheme. I’m about there with the 2011 Orioles. Tune in once in a while and quickly forget because they just aren’t good and it doesn’t matter in the grand scheme of things.

by drj on Jun 13, 2011 10:29 AM EDT reply actions  

I've been suffering from Orioles ennui basically since the second week of the season

they win some games, and they’ll look good, and I’ll get very little satisfaction from it. And they’ll lose other games, and look really bad, and I’ll just shrug it off and say “well, yeah”. It’s disconcerting.

It's the wanting to know that makes us matter.

by Andrew_G on Jun 13, 2011 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm back to the point where I expect them to lose every game

regardless of the score. Which in a way is kind of nice, because when they do win, I’m all like:

by PhilR8 on Jun 13, 2011 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

This team is what I expected.

They’re competitive, but not playoff caliber. They can beat Oakland or KC, but seldom beat the Yankees or Red Sox. Maybe can win 81 games this year if some of the injured players recover well (Matusz). By the way, I agree that Robert’s replacement needs to hurry up. Andino is a utility IF, not a starting 2B. Why not play Adams until one of the young guys comes through? Looks like Schoop to me.

by fuddnelson on Jun 13, 2011 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

nope.

I still feel like they can beat anyone after they win a game, and after they lose, I wonder why they even bother.

"Initially thought I had BieberFever but turns out I have pneumonia."
-Guts

by Steve. on Jun 13, 2011 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm suffering from general ennui

The Orioles aren’t really much of a blip on my ennui radar at the moment.

by Holymittens on Jun 13, 2011 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ha,

yeah, there’s a bit of this for me.

"Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs." -- Earl Weaver

by Vuff on Jun 13, 2011 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

I find myself less invested in them this year than I was last year which is kinda weird.

Damn it feels good to be a contributor, Music City Miracles.
@DPR9

by danielreese05 on Jun 13, 2011 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Long term prognosis

I would have less Orioles’ ennui if the franchise heartened me with its long-term prospects. I just don’t see a way for the franchise to turn itself around. The Os are a bottom half team with a bottom half farm system faced with three better rivals (Boston, Rays, and Jays) that just cleaned up in the draft. Instead of manipulating the system to get extra draft picks, the Os have done the opposite.

by BaltoBen on Jun 13, 2011 11:09 AM EDT reply actions  

New front page post, you all

http://www.camdenchat.com/2011/6/13/2219602/jeremy-guthrie-doesnt-know-how-to-win

in which we discuss exactly how good Jeremy Guthrie would need to be to be, say, a five game winner at this point in the season.

It's the wanting to know that makes us matter.

by Andrew_G on Jun 13, 2011 11:16 AM EDT reply actions  

Birds Up, O's Down is up.

Check it out, here. Jake Arrieta is your O of the week.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jun 13, 2011 12:08 PM EDT reply actions  

maybe...

drink for every slap at “romneycare”, drink for every slap at pawlenty for cap and trade support, drink for every slap at gingrich for betraying paul ryan

1/2 sip for every mention of ronald reagan

"the secret to a happy ending is knowing when to roll the credits"

by j.q. higgins on Jun 13, 2011 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh, snap!

"the secret to a happy ending is knowing when to roll the credits"

by j.q. higgins on Jun 13, 2011 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would say start drinking before it starts (gotta pregame!!)

and keep drinking even after it stops because they won’t discuss anything of consequence anyways.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jun 13, 2011 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

now she declares on the debate?

i guess she wants to crowd the headlines.

Folksy literate type.

by birdman on Jun 13, 2011 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Favorite part of the debate

When Bachmann said that if she were president she would “confer with the commanders in chief” before making a decision. Uh, dipshit, the president IS the commander in chief!

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Jun 14, 2011 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Remember the debate where Joe the Plumber was introduced to the world?

My roommate and I decided before the game to have a drinking game for it. One of the things you had to take a shot for was every time they mentioned “the common man” or some derivation of that theme.

We were trashed about 20 minutes in.

by Holymittens on Jun 13, 2011 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

An entire keg

anytime anyone other than Ron Paul talks sense about foreign policy

"If you don't like the effect, don't produce the cause."

- George Clinton

by sluggo 2.0 on Jun 13, 2011 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Applying to all politicians:

An entire keg anytime anyone other than Ron Paul talks sense about foreign policy

"Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs." -- Earl Weaver

by Vuff on Jun 13, 2011 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

two kegs when ron paul talks sense about foreign policy?

"the secret to a happy ending is knowing when to roll the credits"

by j.q. higgins on Jun 13, 2011 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sluggo's a bit of an isolationist

Trust me, we’ve had this chat.

"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King

by duck on Jun 13, 2011 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Depends on your definition

No problem with free trade & travel with countries who believe in the same.

But war is acceptable only in response to an attack against your own country, and then against only the attacker. But I will make RARE exceptions (Germany in WWII is one that comes to mind) – because only neocons deal in absolutes.

"If you don't like the effect, don't produce the cause."

- George Clinton

by sluggo 2.0 on Jun 14, 2011 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

So hypothetically...

a dictator is slaughtering his people and many other developed nations are uniting to help, but you’d have the US just chill on the sidelines?

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Jun 14, 2011 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

The 1st myth about "humanitarian" war is that it exists

Behind every humanitarian war stands a dozen oil barons or neocons or Christian dominionists. No less so for Clinton & Obama than for the Bush Crime Family.

As Bill Maher said when Christopher Hitchens made the humanitarian argument in favour of the Iraq war, “It’s not your war. It’s Cheney’s war”.

However, I would possibily be willing to believe the sincerity of a president who advocated such a policy across the board and with no exceptions. In other words, removing the special dispensation currently enjoyed by Saudi Arabia, North Korea and of course, China.

"If you don't like the effect, don't produce the cause."

- George Clinton

by sluggo 2.0 on Jun 14, 2011 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hence the "hypothetically"

I was thinking more along the lines of Rwanda.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Jun 14, 2011 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Admittedly not up on the particulars of that case

but I don’t think brutality on that scale happens overnight.

Ideally Clinton would have found a way to step in in a non-military way before it turned into such an atrocity. But once it did reach that point he wisely chose to avoid risking another Somalia, with American dead being dragged through the streets.

"If you don't like the effect, don't produce the cause."

- George Clinton

by sluggo 2.0 on Jun 14, 2011 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

The firs myth of brutality on that scale is that it doesn't happen overnight...

I’m actually just kidding, but I think absolutes like this are pretty ridiculous. I think it was wrong to not go into Rwanda and I think it was right to go into Somalia. Getting killed and dragged through the streets in Somalia is just as bad as being blown up by an IED in Iraq for my money.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Jun 15, 2011 1:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

Neither should have happened is the point I've been making all along

We’ll just agree to disagree on this one & meet on another open thread.

"If you don't like the effect, don't produce the cause."

- George Clinton

by sluggo 2.0 on Jun 15, 2011 9:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

well sure

but the idea that Rwanda could have been averted by some diplomatic means is just ridiculous. There are crazy people and crazy situations in the world that require military action and not always because we’ve been or are going to be attacked.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Jun 15, 2011 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Take a shot of Hard-Tea

Anytime Michelle Bachman fails to look directly into the camera

I am the Frizzle Fry.

by PBR me ASAP! on Jun 13, 2011 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Everybody at lunch here?

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jun 13, 2011 12:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Whuddduppppp

I just saw a certified pimp in the Giant Store parking lot. No kidding. If I didn’t have groceries in my hand I would’ve tried to snap a picture. He was driving a Chrysler with rims, the entire inside trim was leopard print, and he was wearing a pimp hat with big pimp sunglasses on.

Less big words and more exclamation marks

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jun 13, 2011 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

if realignment does happen i wont be glad

we should be able to be a contending team in this AL East and we dont need to be moved to a different division to make the playoffs

by the birds clinch on Jun 13, 2011 1:12 PM EDT reply actions  

did you even read the article?

Felix Pie is a ninja robot sent from the future to make everything adorable.

by Stacey on Jun 13, 2011 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

So Tsuyoshi Nishioka is likely to be activated soon?

Good to hear; I thought he was out for the season.

"Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs." -- Earl Weaver

by Vuff on Jun 13, 2011 1:29 PM EDT reply actions  

Good God, I thought he broke his leg

That’s some serious recovery time. He must be on the stem cells

Less big words and more exclamation marks

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jun 13, 2011 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

apparently he’s been playing for the last week in high-A ball and expects to play in AAA for the next week or so. that’s insane.

Damn it feels good to be a contributor, Music City Miracles.
@DPR9

by danielreese05 on Jun 13, 2011 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I took a flyer on him in the last round of the CC fantasy draft

And when he broke his leg I picked up Asdrubal. That was great hustle Yoshi, thanks.

Less big words and more exclamation marks

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jun 13, 2011 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Anybody see Tree of Life or Super 8 this weekend?

In short, I really disliked Tree of Life. Super 8 is fine. It’s pretty much your cookie cutter monster movie. I loved Goonies, but I wonder if there’s a generational effect here for me.

Folksy literate type.

by birdman on Jun 13, 2011 1:45 PM EDT reply actions  

I haven't, but I've wanted to see Super 8

I love Coach Taylor.

Felix Pie is a ninja robot sent from the future to make everything adorable.

by Stacey on Jun 13, 2011 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha!

my thoughts exactly!

"the secret to a happy ending is knowing when to roll the credits"

by j.q. higgins on Jun 13, 2011 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Did you watch him in Early Edition?

My wife and I liked the show, felt like it never really got a chance to grow.

"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King

by duck on Jun 13, 2011 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

I did!

I used to watch the reruns in college. They were on in the middle of the night on some cable station.

Felix Pie is a ninja robot sent from the future to make everything adorable.

by Stacey on Jun 13, 2011 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

I didn't see the Goonies until I was an adult

so naturally, I don’t share any fuzzy nostalgia that is associated with it. When I heard Super 8 being compared to the Goonies, I think I made my decision right there – will wait for video.

I did watch Deen Koontz’s Phantoms last night. If you like bad horror movies, it’s a decent way to pass the time.

by PhilR8 on Jun 13, 2011 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I saw Goonies as a kid and that probably affected my love for that movie. I had an inhaler as a kid and the older brother in the movie reminded me of my older brother. And there’s an Asian kid in that movie even though I’m not of fan of his lame accent. But slick shoes!

Folksy literate type.

by birdman on Jun 13, 2011 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not really knocking the goonies

I can understand that if you saw it as a kid and liked it, you’ll carry that with you for life. I just didn’t see it as a kid so when I did see it, I was far from the intended audience. I was also embellishing just a little bit when I said I was going to wait for video with Super 8; had the reviews been a little better (yeah yeah I’m one of those guys), I probably would have seen it this past weekend. So the Goonies references were just the final straw for me.

by PhilR8 on Jun 13, 2011 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

super 8 is getting really good reviews
had the reviews been a little better (yeah yeah I’m one of those guys),

http://www.metacritic.com/movie/super-8/critic-reviews

Folksy literate type.

by birdman on Jun 13, 2011 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

I mean if you look at the aggregate, sure

It’s at something like 83% on RT. But I actually read a bunch of the reviews and they were mostly lukewarm. Which is fine, but it just wasn’t enough to get me to buy a ticket in this case.

by PhilR8 on Jun 13, 2011 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Metacritic, as long as you trust their scoring, is generally more helpful than RT

Its really easy for unspectacular but somewhat pleasing movie to get a high score on RT, since the review only has to be more positive than not. Super 8 sounds like exactly that kind of movie. Whats interesting is looking at the movies where the RT and Metacritic scores diverge.

by kba26 on Jun 13, 2011 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

metacritic has become my bible.

it’s eerily accurate. although once or twice it has tripped me up.

"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and a little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott

by zknower on Jun 13, 2011 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

metacritic is my bible as well

but the gushing praise for Tree of Life makes me want to barf. I usually look at the metacritic and then I pay attention to a few critics that I like to determine which movies l see. I really pumped about Tree of Life and then knew I was trouble about 30 minutes in. I have an interpretation for what Malick was trying for but it just doesn’t work.

Folksy literate type.

by birdman on Jun 13, 2011 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I feel that way about all of his movies

It's the wanting to know that makes us matter.

by Andrew_G on Jun 13, 2011 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Super 8 was ok

and it was no Goonies

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Jun 13, 2011 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am happy with keeping Hardy.

We don’t have anyone who can play his position better than him and he seems relatively inexpensive.

by Benhem612 on Jun 13, 2011 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yesssssssssssss

Rec

Less big words and more exclamation marks

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jun 13, 2011 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Zrebiec is now saying the same stuff on the Twitter

Felix Pie is a ninja robot sent from the future to make everything adorable.

by Stacey on Jun 13, 2011 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hopefully...

a.) the O’s are serious about extending Hardy
b.) the frequently-traded Hardy will prefer an extension to free agency (and another move)
c.) Hardy won’t be hurt all the time

"Thin line 'tween heaven and here." - Bubbles, The Wire

by Eat More Esskay on Jun 13, 2011 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

if jj is smart, he'll test the market

Jose Reyes is his only competition. Once he’s off the market, there should be a decent bidding war for him. The Giants look like an obvious fit. Although, there should have been strong interest in him this offseason and the O’s were only team to make a serious offer.

Folksy literate type.

by birdman on Jun 13, 2011 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed.

That’s one reason I want the Orioles to try getting him signed now. The longer this drags out, the more time he has to generate interest from other teams. Of course, he could also go into a Nick Markakis-like slump and completely turn everyone away.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jun 13, 2011 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

except we have almost no shot of finding a better shortstop anywhere else. isn’t that worth an extension alone?

Damn it feels good to be a contributor, Music City Miracles.
@DPR9

by danielreese05 on Jun 13, 2011 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Great

he’s def. I guy i’d offer arbitration. I don’t know if he’s a type A guy, but I figure he’s at least a type B. If we don’t extend him and worst case scenario get a pick in return, i’ll be happy.

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Jun 13, 2011 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Right now he's a borderline-A

And i didn’t even consider it, but this seems to be the most reasonable approach.

by kba26 on Jun 13, 2011 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

sayeth fangraphs...

hardy is the man.

"the secret to a happy ending is knowing when to roll the credits"

by j.q. higgins on Jun 13, 2011 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

What do you think of his comment about Guthrie?

“While right-hander Jeremy Guthrie is a target of many clubs and eligible for free agency after next season, the Orioles view him as difficult to replace.”

That pretty much confirms that people are def. high on him and it seems like even though he would be hard to replace it means Mcphail will be able to leverage that a bit.

by Benhem612 on Jun 13, 2011 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

So, need some advice here

In 3ish months I turn 30. For most of my adult life I have lacked health insurance of any kind and I think it’s time to change that. I want to change that, for a variety of reasons.

However, I have NO idea how to go about it. I am currently self-employed, which means I can’t just get coverage through an employer (at least without getting a new job, and considering my current job pays the bills and then some [a little], allows me to set my own schedule, and do stuff like post on Camden Chat whenever I want, I am loathe to find a new job unless it’s something I am passionate about).

But I have no idea how to go about it or what to look for in coverage. So can anyone out there offer up some direction or advice on what to look at for personal health insurance?

by Holymittens on Jun 13, 2011 1:59 PM EDT reply actions  

low deductible, low coinsurance, some form of rx coverage...

you should be able to find a decent ppo for less than $150 a month.

"the secret to a happy ending is knowing when to roll the credits"

by j.q. higgins on Jun 13, 2011 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have my own health insurance

I used ehealthinsurance to find my plan. It started at $90 per month (was 25, was and still am a non-smoker) and has been going up $30/mo every year. Now it’s $190/mo and I’m considering other options, but so far I’m happy with what I got using ehealthinsurance.

by PhilR8 on Jun 13, 2011 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is there any way to check that?

I’d hate to have to pay more and more every year. I mean, yeah, obviously if as I get older I expect it to rise, but $30 more per month a year is a huge jump and would quickly get into unaffordable territory for me.

by Holymittens on Jun 13, 2011 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I mean, I can change my coverage I guess

I’ve been pretty lazy about it, to be honest. I don’t know if I read all the fine print when I signed up or not, so it could have been part of the deal from day one. I’m using CareFirst BlueChoice (HMO), which I have zero complaints about since it’s almost universally accepted around here.

by PhilR8 on Jun 13, 2011 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rob Neyer will be 105.7 at 2:40

Felix Pie is a ninja robot sent from the future to make everything adorable.

by Stacey on Jun 13, 2011 2:36 PM EDT reply actions  

yes

Felix Pie is a ninja robot sent from the future to make everything adorable.

by Stacey on Jun 13, 2011 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rob just gave a shout to Camden Chat!

How can you not love this guy!

Folksy literate type.

by birdman on Jun 13, 2011 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

One thing that has pissed me off to no end...

about Neyer appearing on 105.7 so much is that nobody ever mentions (at least not often) CC.

And right now I can honestly say y'all are getting a paycheck for nothing. - Josh Howard

by TerroristFistJab on Jun 13, 2011 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm pretty sure Neyer plugs CC whenever he's on Baltimore

I don’t usually get to listen since I’m at work, but I know it’s been mentioned on here a number of times. It’s in his best interests to, after all.

Felix Pie is a ninja robot sent from the future to make everything adorable.

by Stacey on Jun 13, 2011 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

I stand corrected...

I know I’ve heard him on at least two or three times where it didn’t get out, but I’m really happy to hear he has done some SBN-repping.

And right now I can honestly say y'all are getting a paycheck for nothing. - Josh Howard

by TerroristFistJab on Jun 13, 2011 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

What exactly is the point of signing up for Yahoo fantasy baseball?

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jun 13, 2011 2:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Damn....I'm all over the place today.

I meant signing up for Yahoo fantasy FOOTBALL.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jun 13, 2011 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe they were gonna play computer opponents against each other in Madden?

Only think of which I could think.

"I think we consider too much the luck of the early bird and not enough the bad luck of the early worm." ~ FDR

by NSOsFan on Jun 13, 2011 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

*thing

"I think we consider too much the luck of the early bird and not enough the bad luck of the early worm." ~ FDR

by NSOsFan on Jun 13, 2011 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

ha!

My shitty language skills are rubbing off on you too!

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jun 13, 2011 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Who on earth would sign up now even during a real season?

Half of my league had injured players after our draft last year two games into pre-season.

by Benhem612 on Jun 13, 2011 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Who wants to rent me their place in OC or the Delaware beaches?

I promise not to bro out in it. These rental sites are a pain in the ass.

Less big words and more exclamation marks

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jun 13, 2011 3:18 PM EDT reply actions  

i was just in OC this past weekend

gotta love going down during “senior week/month”. i saw a kid standing in the middle of Coastal Highway trying to pick fights with cars as they drove past him (he was clearly high on something). Also, they sell your favorite t-shirt at every boardwalk stand now…

OC is continuing it’s transition to becoming New Jersey South

carolina in my mind...

by Gamecock24 on Jun 13, 2011 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh my God, why would you go put up with the June Bugs?

Please tell me there was some purpose other than banging 18 year olds? That’s too bro even for me.

Less big words and more exclamation marks

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jun 13, 2011 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nothing wrong with 18 year olds.

There is, however, something wrong with Ocean Shitty.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jun 13, 2011 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

OC is tacky as shit, but it’s always a good time.

Damn it feels good to be a contributor, Music City Miracles.
@DPR9

by danielreese05 on Jun 13, 2011 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Depends what you consider a good time.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jun 13, 2011 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hmmm - 300,000 people on a 10-mile island, watered-down overpriced beer....

and loud teenagers everywhere?

Yeah, I’m going to Assateague.

"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King

by duck on Jun 13, 2011 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Assateague if you want the actual beach

Why ANYONE would go to OC for the beach is beyond me. You go to OC for food, people watching and getting drunk. Beach? Go to Assateague.

"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King

by duck on Jun 13, 2011 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

you go to assateague if you want to see disgusting ponies being swarmed with giant flies

Felix Pie is a ninja robot sent from the future to make everything adorable.

by Stacey on Jun 13, 2011 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

And that, people, is the reason why we on the Shore look at y'all like you're crazy

Seriously? You’re really not going to argue OC is a better beach experience that Assateague, are you?

"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King

by duck on Jun 13, 2011 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

I will! assateague is about as boring as boring gets. sure, it’s a lot prettier than OC, and I guess if you’re looking for a more “classic” beach experience that includes doing nothing all day it’s superior, but if I’d wanted to do nothing all day I’d have stayed home.

Damn it feels good to be a contributor, Music City Miracles.
@DPR9

by danielreese05 on Jun 13, 2011 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

So, you're not going to the beach for the actual beach

Fine, more room for me at Assateague. Y’all are crazy. Get the swimming and tanning in at Assateague, THEN drive over to OC for Thrashers’ and rides.

Then again, when I go, it’s a round trip in the same day, so YMMV.

"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King

by duck on Jun 13, 2011 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not making an argument either way

I’m saying that if you go to assateague you’ll see ponies covered in giant flies.

Felix Pie is a ninja robot sent from the future to make everything adorable.

by Stacey on Jun 14, 2011 8:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

I prefer the beaches in Delaware if I'm staying relatively local

Felix Pie is a ninja robot sent from the future to make everything adorable.

by Stacey on Jun 14, 2011 8:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Fuck Assateague

Go to Topsail.

"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and a little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott

by zknower on Jun 13, 2011 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

There's a beach there?

Hell….didn’t even notice on account of all the 18 year olds I was banging.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jun 13, 2011 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

The hell there's not.

"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King

by duck on Jun 13, 2011 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well...you're sorta advanced for the 18 year olds.

I wouldn’t date anyone who is near my daughter’s age either! But I’m not far past 18 so they aren’t outta the question…..yet, anyways. I prefer closer to my age ;-)

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jun 13, 2011 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not talking about dating one

I’m talking about in general. Damn kids need to stay off my lawn. And turn down that wrapper music or whatever the hell they call it. In my day, we played REAL bands, like Black Sabbath and Led Zeppelin and Motley Crue. Now THAT’S music!

"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King

by duck on Jun 13, 2011 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

it was for my girlfriend's sister's birthday (both of who are well above the age of 18)

we rented out a pontoon boat and watched the OC Air Show from the bay and bar hopped between Macky’s and Seacrets. i made sure to keep my distance from all the little shit-heads as much as possible.

carolina in my mind...

by Gamecock24 on Jun 13, 2011 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s Gettin’ REAL in the Whole Foods Parkin’ Lot!

"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and a little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott

by zknower on Jun 13, 2011 7:12 PM EDT reply actions  

hahahahahahaha Cap'n Jeets. Fuck off!

of course, this probably means he’ll end up getting 3000 against the O’s somehow….

I am the Frizzle Fry.

by PBR me ASAP! on Jun 13, 2011 10:02 PM EDT reply actions  

that’s exactly what I was afraid of. oh god I would hate that so much…

Damn it feels good to be a contributor, Music City Miracles.
@DPR9

by danielreese05 on Jun 13, 2011 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

luckily, we don't see the yankers again till the end of July

so he’d have to be on the DL for a long time, or go into a tremendous slump between now and then. Neither is a particularly bad option actually.

I am the Frizzle Fry.

by PBR me ASAP! on Jun 13, 2011 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Around the minors 6-13:

Norfolk lost to Durham 4-1. 3E1N went 7 strong, 5 strikeouts, 1 walk, 7 hits (1 HR), 3 earned runs. Pat Egan went 1 inning, giving up 1 run on 3 hits. The Tides managed only 3 hits tonight. Josh Bell went 0-3 with 2 Ks. Jake Fox caught tonight, going 0-4 with a K.

The Baysox were off today.

Frederick topped Winston Salem 5-4. Jonathan Schoop went 1-4 with a walk and his first Carolina League stolen base (and it was home!). Kipp Schutz went 0-4 with a K.

Delmarva lost to Kannapolis 6-2. Manny Machado doubled and struck out in 4 at bats. Michael Ohlman went 0-4 with a K and his 9th error. Mychal Givens went 0-4 and is batting 195 on the season. Randy Henry went 2 scoreless, striking out 1.

The DSL Orioles lost to the DSL Rockies 11-2. Hector Veloz went 0-4 with a K and a CS. Jhondaniel Medina went 5 tough innings, giving up 3 earned runs on 7 hit and 3 walks with 2 strikeouts. Daniel might be a good candidate to go to Aberdeen given his strong season last year (49/19 K/BB in 50.1 innings with a 2.32 ERA). He has yet to allow a homer.

Link of Allenson doing a Weaver impersonation.

If you look at those UZR ratings or whatever

by dfa on Jun 14, 2011 1:36 AM EDT reply actions  

Other updates:

Melewski does a puff piece on Connor Narron, who went overslot after being picked in the 5th round last year.

And another piece on 2010 9th rounder Parker Bridwell who will be Aberdeen’s OD pitcher.

If you look at those UZR ratings or whatever

by dfa on Jun 14, 2011 1:41 AM EDT reply actions  

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