State of the Orioles Q & A Notes
On June 25th, prior to a game vs. the Cincinnati Reds, Andy MacPhail and Buck Showalter addressed season ticket holders on the state of the Baltimore Orioles. After some opening remarks fans were given the opportunity to ask questions of Andy or Buck. Much of their responses to these questions was boilerplate, but there were some interesting bits of knowledge to glean as well.
The opening statements were devoid of anything interesting, just some cheer leading remarks about how the players do feed off the energy of the crowd. So, onto the questions from the fans. I have organized the questions into a more logical flow, as opposed to posting them in the order in which they were asked. Also, I am merely paraphrasing Andy and / or Buck's responses.
*On the process of transforming the team into a contender:
AM: We are a better club now than we were last season. But, the process has not occurred as quickly as he had hoped. They are maintaining the emphasis on developing young arms.
BS: Players develop at different rates, or fail to develop. Progress doesn't occur in a linear fashion. We're better, but certainly not good enough yet.
*On Andy MacPhail's future with the club:
AM: He will wait until the end of the year before discussing anything. Not concerned with his contract status during the season.
*Will the Warehouse be willing to spend $ in free agency this off-season:
AM: Ownership will do what is needed to improve the ball club. Free agency is one avenue to that end, but there are other ways to improve the club. For instance, no one has out spent the O's in the amateur draft over the past 4 seasons. The spring training complex was completely renovated.
*Will the Warehouse make a run at landing Pujols or Prince this off-season:
AM: Per baseball rules he can't discuss other teams players, but, he will be focused on improving the middle of the lineup. In order to win in the A.L. East the O's need to be an offensive juggernaut.
*On Brian Roberts' status:
BS: BriBob worked out in Sarasota without any complications or set backs. He will go back to Pittsburgh to be reevaluated in a week or so.
*On their approach to utilizing sabermetrics:
AM: In terms of player acquisition the front office uses a variety of reports when analyzing if a player would be a good fit for the club. Analyzing SABR stats comprises approximately 1/3 of their approach, and there are certain statistics that they focus on, but he did not elaborate any further.
BS: He uses all things available to him, but, the bulk of his response concerned how unquantifiable aspects of the game, such as the mental approach / makeup of players, are not reflected in statistics.
*Regarding our spending in the international market:
AM: The spending curve is increasing. He touted success in developing some arms in the DSL (Dominican Summer League) and GCL (Gulf Coast League). And then he restated his refrain regarding not being willing to deal with the 'buscones' (Latin American baseball camps), because he wants the scouts to see players perform in a competitive environment, not just going through drills.
*Regarding the success at the end of 2010 vs. the struggles in 2011:
BS: The team is close, and has been competitive, but a lot of little errors have hurt the team this season, i.e. lead off walks, hit by pitches, failure to get bunts down, fielding mistakes, etc.
That was about the extent of the session. It would have been nice if it lasted a bit longer, there were certainly plenty of people with questions who were left out (myself included), or if questions could have been followed up, but batting practice was starting and so it was time for Buck to get back to the team. Feel free to share any thoughts / questions in the comments.
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the bulk of his response concerned how unquantifiable aspects of the game, such as the mental approach / makeup of players, are not reflected in statistics.
hoo-boy.
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and a little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
yeah, Buck went on a spiel about how important it is to know how to deal with 'human beings and their emotions'
His response didn’t strike me as dismissive of advanced stats, because he did state categorically that he will use all things available to him, but he didn’t seem eager to delve into a drawn-out explanation of how he incorporates any advanced stats into lineup decisions, etc…
I am the Frizzle Fry.
by PBR me ASAP! on Jun 26, 2011 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Because that's been Buck's history as a manager?
Wow, I feel like we got a kinder, gentler Buck Showalter or something.
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Does that mean...
he wants to get Jeter in here? You know, intangibles and all….
"Real Orioles don't pout. Real Orioles don't gloat. Real Orioles just win."
by NewYorkOriole on Jun 27, 2011 8:28 AM EDT up reply actions
well, he's not really wrong
he is the manager, and he’s the one guy who actually needs to concern himself with personality and such. None of that stuff is unimportant.
Kevin Gregg is ruining everything I love about baseball, he really is.
how unquantifiable aspects of the game, such as the mental approach / makeup of players,
Completely agree and I think most SABER peeps do as well.
Folksy literate type.
AM: Per baseball rules he can’t discuss other teams players, but, he will be focused on improving the middle of the lineup. In order to win in the A.L. East the O’s need to be an offensive juggernaut.
HEYOOOOO. progress?
Damn it feels good to be a contributor, Music City Miracles.
@DPR9
well, I guess we will find out what his idea of compiling an offensive juggernaut is
past experience doesn’t portend too optimistic a picture, imo. I can see us missing out on Prince, and falling back on, say, a 34 year old Aramis Ramirez. Ugh….
I am the Frizzle Fry.
by PBR me ASAP! on Jun 26, 2011 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions
I can see it now...
“Orioles, Cain Marko agree to 4 year, 200M deal”
/nerdhumor
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
We'd need to trade Xavier Avery away first
might not want to have those two guys in the same clubhouse in Spring Training.
Kevin Gregg is ruining everything I love about baseball, he really is.
I wouldn't want to run into him at home plate.
"That ball is gone. We'll pause ten seconds to commit suicide ... I mean, for a station identification." - Joe Angel, 6/17/11
by Eat More Esskay on Jun 27, 2011 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions
Thanks for sharing, PBR!
Felix Pie is a ninja robot sent from the future to make everything adorable.
Ya know, I'm all about using SABR stats for analysis
but there has got to be SOME consideration of the psychology of players and personalities, right? I’m not defending going and getting “clubhouse guys” who put up a 750 OPS (unless they play stellar defense at a prime position, that is), but doesn’t it make sense that a team would HAVE to look at that, at least a little bit?
And it definitely sounds like there is progress in some of these answers.
"Might as well just win this game." - Adam Jones, 4/17/2008
Adam Jones is the tits.
by KenDixonFanClub on Jun 26, 2011 9:38 PM EDT reply actions
I agree
And I think at least some of us were in agreement at the beginning of the season that if Buck were to have any effect on the team it would be some sort of intangible motivation to get the most out of players that maybe some other managers don’t possess.
Less big words and more exclamation marks
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jun 26, 2011 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions
how long do you think it is before that wears off? something was clearly different last year, I don’t see the same team I did at the end of the final part of the season. Buck’s done a solid job, no complaints here seeing as he’s probably the best manager we’ve had since Davey left, but I think that if anyone thought they’d win at the pace they won at in August/September last year because of a manager change that they were setting themselves up for mega-disappointment.
Damn it feels good to be a contributor, Music City Miracles.
@DPR9
by danielreese05 on Jun 27, 2011 12:28 AM EDT up reply actions
Wears off?
I’m not sure it even wore… on this year. Even though I was a big proponent of the Buck effect, the simple fact is that the talent level on the team is much much better this year than last. We’re still a sub .500 team, but last year was one of the most pathetic lineups ever assembled. I kind of expected to be where we are now.
I was hoping for a little less errors and some more timely hitting, the types of things that I would partially, ever-so-slightly contribute to Buck. Things like not having an eight game losing streak, for instance. So I’m not really sure. He’s at least got them playing to their level for the most part, whereas last year it looked like we were mailing it in at every single position.
Less big words and more exclamation marks
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jun 27, 2011 8:48 AM EDT up reply actions
A lot of "little errors"?
It is as if they don’t even know we’re the worst fielding team in baseball.
Also, I think it is hilarious that MacPhail claims he only wants to sign international players who there is game evidence of, when Angelos of course refuses to allow the team to even show interest in the only players (Cuban defectors) who there is significant game evidence of.
To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa
well, Dice K has worked out well for the Red Sox.
I really hope AM is no longer making decisions following this season, but I think the odds of him not being retained are somewhere south of twenty percent.
If you look at those UZR ratings or whatever
























