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Orioles 6, Athletics 2: Just how powerful is Tommy Hunter?

OAKLAND, CA - AUGUST 15: Tommy Hunter wonders what he likes more, pitching in Oakland or against the A's? (Photo by Thearon W. Henderson/Getty Images)

Coming into tonight's battle in Oakland, your Baltimore Orioles had only lost 12 of 13 against the A's.  And tonight for the A's on the mound was Gio Gonzalez.  And even though he has been struggling over the last 4 games, the hunch was that the Orioles would be the perfect medicine for his losing ways.  Conversely, newly acquired Tommy Hunter was 4-0 against the A's, but as a Ranger.  And the Rangers are probably better than the Orioles.

As punishment for getting swept by the Orioles in May, Billy Beane felt forced to fire Bob Geren, who was actually in his wedding.  Having your employees in your wedding is the new market inefficiency.  Geren was replaced by former Oriole Bob Melvin, who was always viewed as a future manager, though I'm not sure if he was viewed as a fungible manager or not.

So, what actually happened?

In the bottom of the first, Matt Wieters threw out Jemile Weeks, inflicting so much pain as to injure his brother.  In the second, Wieters hit his 11th homer of the season, and now has 40 runs batted in on the season.  In the bottom of the second, Tommy Hunter gave up a single to Josh Willingham and then a double to David DeJesus that would plate Willingham to tie the game  DeJesus would score on a single, but Hunter would battle after that, getting out of none out first and second jam without further damage.

Trouble for the A's was brewing in the 7th, as Adam Jones singled, Vladi singled, and Wieters walks.  Out goes Gio Gonzalez, in comes Fautino De Los Santos.  Mark Reynolds would crush some souls with a strikeout.  But Robert Andino would breathe back in life to the faithful with a 2 run double.  Josh Bell would follow by driving in Wieters and Andino with a single.  Moldy would strikeout and Hardy would pop out, but the damage was done.
Hunter got into a bit of trouble in the 7th, but was bailed out by Michael Gonzalez.  Which I suppose isn't surprising given it's the end of a lost season.

Mark Reynolds homered in the 9th, and Kevin Gregg demonstrated his mentoring skills by not blowing it.  I hope 3e1n was watching.  Or I don't.  Tommy Hunter gets the win, and manages to break the Oakland hex.  I'm not quite sure what to think about not losing to the A's.  For the night, Hunter went 6.2 innings, scattering 10 hits, striking out 3, walking 1 and giving up 2 earned runs.

Poll
Who was the Most Birdland Player for August 15, 2011?
Josh Bell (two-run single, two walks)
12 votes
Tommy Hunter (6.2 IP, 2 ER)
86 votes
Mark Reynolds (monster bomb for an insurance run)
4 votes
Michael Gonzalez (1.1 IP, 3 K, resembled major league pitcher)
5 votes
Matt Wieters (center field HR, destroyed base runner)
60 votes

167 votes | Poll has closed

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I love this ML deal for Bundy the more I think about it...

we HAVE to promote him within three years. If we promote him at age 20, then we can only jerk him around for a year before we risk losing him. (rather than the Tillman/Patton plan of just fuck with them forever because fuck them). Even better if we promote him earlier because that means he’s awesome or later -because that means we can’t jerk him around at all!

It only costs us a spot on the 40-man… and we have at least 10 sub replacement players on there, at least 4 of which are even on the 25-man. We can literally get better by cutting Pie right now and replacing him with no one.

On top of that, with only three years, our coaches’ leverage over him is decreased substantially!! At no point can any coach intimidate him with something like "you’re not getting promoted unless you change your motion/diet/practice routine" This gives him WAY more leverage over our organization, and in what way could that possibly be a bad thing? I mean do you trust anyone in our system more than this 18 year-old and his family when it comes to his development (or really, anything? fuck I’d trust him to pick stocks over anyone on the buck-mcphail-angelos axis).

The longer he spends in our system, the more likely we are to fuck him up. If he never works out, there’s no way it will be because he needed more seasoning in our minor league system. Any other team, sure, but not us.

Sorry I’m drunk and excited and my new mantra is find the best silver lining about everything. And this is the best day to be an O’s fan since…since…um…Birdland day?

Just because you know how to read, doesn't mean you'll like the book.

by arlingtonOsFan on Aug 16, 2011 1:27 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

I just wanna point out one thing...

This is (possibly) false: “We can literally get better by cutting Pie right now and replacing him with no one.”

Cutting Pie won’t make that -1.9 fWAR go away. There’s a chance that he can pick up a bit of value between now and the end of the season to get back up to, say, -1.0 WAR. In other words, if we cut Pie and put in a replacement-level player, we would get 0 WAR. If we keep Pie and he plays himself up to -1.0 WAR, we get 0.9 WAR.

by SeanP on Aug 16, 2011 3:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

What evidence is there

that Pie is going to do anything but continue to suck?

Close your eyes / Look deep in your soul / Step outside yourself / And let your mind go ~ Seasons In The Abyss, a place O's fan's are all to familiar with

by PBR me ASAP! on Aug 16, 2011 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, that's why I said that his statement is possibly false.

I won’t say that there is evidence that Pie will be better, but I think that there are signs and whispers.

- His UZR this season is -11.2, but he’s been around average in the past. UZR takes around 3 full seasons before it’s really stable, so I have doubts that he’s actually a -1 win defender.
- His LD rate is down 7.3% and his HR/FB rate is down 7.2% from last season’s marks. These suggest that it could be a mechanics issue, so overhauling his swing could bring him back up to a .325 OBP and a .170 ISO.
- He’s still cost-controlled, so he can be pretty useful if he hits and defends around league average.

All that being said, I think that Nolan needs to start full-time. I don’t just think that we should dump Pie when this might be a down year.

by SeanP on Aug 17, 2011 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Now with an MBP poll.

"That ball is gone. We'll pause ten seconds to commit suicide ... I mean, for a station identification." - Joe Angel, 6/17/11

by Eat More Esskay on Aug 16, 2011 1:35 AM EDT reply actions  

Wait, we've won two games in a row?

When was the last time that happened?

Finally a decent day for the Orioles. They sign the big three draftees, the team wins, and all the minor league teams win to boot.

by Bad Horse on Aug 16, 2011 1:39 AM EDT reply actions  

We hadn't won two games in a row since July 16-17.

That’s no joke.

"That ball is gone. We'll pause ten seconds to commit suicide ... I mean, for a station identification." - Joe Angel, 6/17/11

by Eat More Esskay on Aug 16, 2011 1:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Awful

"Grow nothing, buy the 'Pen" (Wieters Weiners)

by IggesRule13 on Aug 16, 2011 9:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, it's a joke alright.

The joke is on us though.

Close your eyes / Look deep in your soul / Step outside yourself / And let your mind go ~ Seasons In The Abyss, a place O's fan's are all to familiar with

by PBR me ASAP! on Aug 16, 2011 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

And we haven't won a series since...

This is really no joke: late June

Welcome to the Suck: Narrating the Oriole Fan's Experience 1998-2011

by Titov on Aug 16, 2011 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Voted for Hunter,

since Matty wasn’t an option. He obliterates a baserunner, then crushes a ball to straightaway center, and later takes a walk to load the bases? But, I guess it would be boring if he were MBP all the time. Great performances by many lesser mortals, too.

no, not Olney. But I hear good things.

by joe from onley on Aug 16, 2011 1:45 AM EDT reply actions  

You're right. Wieters should be on there.

I’ll add him. And I will vote for him since you didn’t get to.

"That ball is gone. We'll pause ten seconds to commit suicide ... I mean, for a station identification." - Joe Angel, 6/17/11

by Eat More Esskay on Aug 16, 2011 1:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks!

no, not Olney. But I hear good things.

by joe from onley on Aug 16, 2011 2:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

Btw,

just saw this on Athletics Nation:

“Running on this guy is a dumb idea”

oh, and my personal favorite:

“that jim palmer is still a fine looking man”

no, not Olney. But I hear good things.

by joe from onley on Aug 16, 2011 2:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

The Hunter!!!!

The Andy MacPhail plan: "Grow nothing. Buy the pen," (Wieters Weiner 2011).

by birdman on Aug 16, 2011 2:01 AM EDT reply actions  

STREAKSTREAKSTREAKSTREAKSTREAKSTREAKSTREAKSTREAKSTREAKSTREAKSTREAKSTREAKSTREAKSTREAKSTREAKSTREAK

When your starter crumbles 10 hits into 2 ER and your “alleged closer” — whose street name is OTF, for “Open the Floodgates” — performs adequately, you know this team is frickin’ on fire. ‘Course, the A’s kinda suck, too, even at the Mausoleum.

Anyway, 2-Nite we got Matusz for the trifecta, after which the league will truly fear us again. OK, not as much as Michelle Bachman — all right, not even close — but then, she’s sure to have a better closer. Let’s ask Luke.

As they say in the Texas Subjunctive, I might could stay up and watch tonight: ‘pends on if I get through 4 more pages of translation by midday— and get a nap! I dunno, it’s a new chapter (Music of the Renaissance), and start-up sections usually take longer.

In other news, I’m glad we signed Bud Bundy. Full disclosure: I still like Kelly.

Go O’s!

Welcome to the Suck: Narrating the Oriole Fan's Experience 1998-2011

by Titov on Aug 16, 2011 8:11 AM EDT reply actions  

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