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O's woes a mystery - | FOX Sports
Why are we so awful? Don't worry, Ken Rosenthal will tell us.
Connor resumes former post with Rangers | orioles.com
"Former Orioles pitching coach Mark Connor, who resigned on June 14, has agreed to return to his former role as the Rangers' player development special consultant, according to several sources."
A closer look at LJ Hoes' breakout season at Double-A and recent power surge - MASN
"LJ Hoes, the Orioles' 21-year-old, third-round pick out of Washington's St. John's High School in 2008 that was signed by scout Dean Albany, is putting up impressive numbers for the team and suddenly has added some power to his game."
Zach Britton talks about his struggles before tonight's start - baltimoresun.com
"Britton and Gregg spoke for about two hours Sunday, locked up in an intense conversation in one corner of the Yankee Stadium clubhouse." Guidance from Gregg. It's come to this?
'Bad News Birds,' starring Buck Sho-Walter Matthau | The Daily Times
"You can feel the Orioles will be good someday because Showalter always has been successful as a manager. Looking at Showalter's history, his teams usually take their lumps that first full year before figuring things out. And the silver lining is they are better than they were this time last year."
C.J. Nitkowski's experience with stem cell treatment - The Bonus - SI.com
"I wondered if after a long baseball season, stem cell and PRP therapies could be given to seemingly healthy pitchers to strengthen weakened and slightly torn ligaments and tendons. My thought was that they would decrease the chances of a pitcher getting seriously hurt." - Andrew
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I think I see the problem here
Britton and Gregg spoke for about two hours Sunday, locked up in an intense conversation in one corner of the Yankee Stadium clubhouse.
Youth may come and go, but immaturity can last a lifetime.
I liked how Britton said
[Gregg]’s had success as a starter and a reliever in the big leagues.
Just so we can all laugh knowingly, Kevin Gregg has started 8 major league games, wherein he compiled a 4.81 ERA and was promptly demoted to the bullpen.
Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the Orioles' season?
Shouldn't there be a firm rule ...
… against Gregg talking to ANY other pitcher, ever? I’m actually not joking when I say this. What could he possibly have to offer?
He can impart his bulldog mentality
that’s pretty much it.
if Kevin Gregg has a bulldog mentality
I am prepared to say bulldog mentalities don’t help with pitching.
Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the Orioles' season?
WHAT the WHAT?! you mean all that hype over him having a bulldog mentality
meant nothing about pitching performance???? Say it ain’t so!
Im still chuckling about how the pre-season reports
were that Gregg isn’t wild, he just chooses to walk a lot of batters
Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the Orioles' season?
Well, they have to do a lot of things right to get a hit off of him.
He’s not giving in to batters, you know.
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
I wish I could choose to be bad at a job and get $10 million over two years for it.
"That ball is gone. We'll pause ten seconds to commit suicide ... I mean, for a station identification." - Joe Angel, 6/17/11
by Eat More Esskay on Aug 4, 2011 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions
with all of the time spent on this website...
can any of us here really claim to be model employees?
What is it about our pitchers and losing movement on their signature pitches?
Is this common through a long season that as it goes on pitchers get tired and lose movement? It seems that when Bergesen came up his sinker was awesome and pretty devestating but suddenly in the past two years he can no longer replicate it. Now I think back to all the articles about Britton and how he stumbled onto his amazing pitch and lo and behold there are articles about him not being able to get it to work anymore.
I am not a pitcher so I could be totally clueless but it seems like pitchers who make it to the majors on a bread and butter pitch should at least have built up consistency to where they have control of it. It would be like Mariano Rivera suddenly being like, oh my cutter doesn’t cut anymore.
It's a rare phenomenon
known only as “Orioles Magic”. Fear it happening.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
Not to draw WW's wrath
but I completely lost my best pitch between the fall and spring of my freshman year of college and never got it back. Ruined my college career. I think it can happen fairly easily – a slight change in arm angle or release point can do the trick.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Same with people discovering a pitch after years and years of pitching
The most recent copy of ESPN has an article on Cliff Lee accidentally stumbled on the cutter and it completely pulled his entire arsenal together and made him the deadly pitcher he is today. Some odd mechanical tweak that you can learn or forget how to repeat. It makes sense.
by Wieters Wieners on Aug 4, 2011 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah
that’s basically what happened with Britton’s sinker – he was trying to learn how to throw a cutter and fucked it up in a beautiful way.
It’s funny how some pitches are learned. I always had a mediocre-at-best changeup until I fucked up my elbow and couldn’t throw slider/curve anymore. 6 months of rehab throwing only fastball changeup and I developed a pretty nasty change. I think sliders/curve balls/splitters/cutters are harder to learn by just throwing them over and over again like the changeup.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
This just in...
Weekly World Examiner reports A-Rod seen jaywalking. Also pulling the tag off a mattress and using accounts & descriptions of a game wihtout express written consent from MLB.
Oh, and that 2 headed cat born in Queens last month may be his secret love child.
"If you don't like the effect, don't produce the cause."
- George Clinton
by sluggo 2.0 on Aug 4, 2011 9:15 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
So Mark Connor is a traitor, huh?
Snuck into Baltimore, ruined as much as possible, snuck back out to Texas. Dick.
Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the Orioles' season?
I thought it was all about medical reasons and he "can't" handle the pace
I think he saw the train approaching the tunnel and decided to get out of dodge.
I'm assuming his new gig is basically a desk job with a few trips
Not 162 games in a dugout, half of them away from home, and that’s if you move to Baltimore.
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
That said....
I’d have made his ass sit at home throughout the duration of his contract, or at least had a non-compete for the duration of a season built-in. This is some bullshit.
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
For real.
I doubt they imagined that would be necessary, but now we know it might be.
"That ball is gone. We'll pause ten seconds to commit suicide ... I mean, for a station identification." - Joe Angel, 6/17/11
by Eat More Esskay on Aug 4, 2011 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions
After inpregnating the pitching staff with a demon seed who is destroying us from the inside out.
….although I’m sure Rick is a nice enough guy outside of the bad juju he has brought upon the team.
This is a very disturbing image.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
This just in...
When I83 is shut down, it takes me two hours to make my 9 mile commute to work.
I’ll probably get fired for punching holes in walls… or coworkers, right?
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Aug 4, 2011 9:51 AM EDT reply actions
Did you know they have black and red dotted color coding on traffic maps?
In addition to just red. Black and red dotted is code for: just take off work, don’t even think about it.
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Aug 4, 2011 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions
I did not know that
Then again, traffic down here is when everyone gets stuck behind the combine on a 2 lane road.
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
That shit takes forever when they are going over the C&D bridge in Ches. City.
Wishing Frank McCourt had been approved to buy the RedSux.....
by PBR me ASAP! on Aug 4, 2011 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions
Absolutely sucked. Fells to Towson U took 1:15.
Luckily my director was also stuck in traffic so the meeting I was supposed to make was cancelled.
I won't spoil the ending
but this might be the best use of a certain overused acronym ever. And it’s only 1 minute long to build up to it.
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
RIP Bubba Smith: A great football player (and amusing actor)
Welcome to the Suck: Narrating the Oriole Fan's Experience 1998-2011
Well, at least he isn't facing BOS/NYY
And at least Jeff Francis ain’t no great shakes either.
by Wieters Wieners on Aug 4, 2011 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions
truth
but the Royal offense is nothing to sneeze at either.
Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the Orioles' season?
Britton had a two-hour talk with gregg
he is going to rip into the strike zone with authority and even add a little showmanship by walking every other batter.
Hoping for the best but wearing a helmet
Welcome to the Suck: Narrating the Oriole Fan's Experience 1998-2011
I think he doesn't get shelled
and that tonight is the fluke.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
Bergy looks like he's crying after Matty gave him a stern talking-to
"Human beings make life so interesting. Do you know, that in a universe so full of wonders, they have managed to invent boredom?" ~ Death
Things that annoy me about the Orioles #421134...
After a Pie (!) double puts men on 2nd and 3rd with 1 out, KC brings in a new pitcher to face Andino. We need base runners, and this new guy is fresh out of the pen, so what does Robert do? Swing at the first two pitches, then gets hit. Now, bases loaded, still only 1 down, and the pitcher just hit someone; most teams would, I don’t know, show a tiny bit of patience and see if this pitcher can throw a strike or if he’ll implode and hit/walk another guy. Or at least get him into a position where everyone knows he’s throwing a fastball on 2-0 or something. Hardy sees 4 pitches, swings at them all, and strikes out. Markakis grounds out on the first pitch. Solid work, guys. Good approach.
by Reboulet's Moustache on Aug 4, 2011 10:16 AM EDT reply actions
you know they were thinking
a) “I need a hit here, not a walk. I got to drive in these guys. We run four runs, not one.”
b) “I’m just looking for my pitch to drive.”
c) “He had to do a lot of things right to work his way out of that jam.”
Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the Orioles' season?
I'm sure that's what they were thinking
The problem is that players on good teams are thinking “We need more than one run and he just hit a guy, so maybe I should see if he’ll throw a strike first.”
Actually, the bigger problem is that that’s what the coach should be telling the player to think, not just “Be aggressive.” (I know that’s not the only thing the hitting coach does, just saying, philosophically…)
by Reboulet's Moustache on Aug 4, 2011 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions
you're right
the entire Oriole Way in 2011 is defined as “Be Aggressive” regardless of the lack of results that that philosophy gives.
Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the Orioles' season?
And then AJ follows them up in the 9th down by 4 by swinging at the first pitch
a shoulder high fastball.
I swear that’s a benchable offense on high school teams all around the country.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Westie: this week may be your last chance at the D.B. Cooper money. She's wrong, it's still out there. In Orygun. But prolly not for long.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/04/us/04cooper.html?ref=todayspaper
Welcome to the Suck: Narrating the Oriole Fan's Experience 1998-2011
Someone found
an origami swan mixed in with the money. What does it mean???
"If you don't like the effect, don't produce the cause."
- George Clinton
Personal attack! Personal attack!!!!1!!!1
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Aug 4, 2011 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions
Sorry....
Hey Gamecock… please use a subject line asshole.
by Wieters Wieners on Aug 4, 2011 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions
Do you wish to engage me in fisticuffs?
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Aug 4, 2011 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions
TURN MY SHIT UP
"Human beings make life so interesting. Do you know, that in a universe so full of wonders, they have managed to invent boredom?" ~ Death
good call, twisted
carolina in my mind...
by Gamecock24 on Aug 4, 2011 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
ahahaha.....I love that guy.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Aug 4, 2011 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions
Although....oddly enough, Fister and Furbush both won yesterday.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Aug 4, 2011 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions
With our powers combined.....
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Aug 4, 2011 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions
It really is priceless that they were traded for each other.
Do you think when the GMs stumbled upon the deak they were like “hehe… oh yeah, we gotta make this happen”.
by Wieters Wieners on Aug 4, 2011 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions
Pretty sure they got trashed together and thought it might make a good headline.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Aug 4, 2011 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions
subject line this
carolina in my mind...
by Gamecock24 on Aug 4, 2011 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
This dude is on a par with the Aw Jeez guy
Welcome to the Suck: Narrating the Oriole Fan's Experience 1998-2011
So it's a slow day, let's talk about something that's been on my mind.
Do you think that Willie Eyre gives us the push we need to secure the wild card? I’m concerned about his BB/9 rate.
Not by himself.
But with Jo-jo Reyes in the fold, I can’t imagine any scenario in which we do not win the wild card.
Totally! He has as many WINS as our old "Ace"! Who needs Guts?
I would say he’s clearly our new number 1. Maybe 1A.
(That was a sad trip to baseball-reference)
Guts should keep his head up.
He still has one more win than Papelbon
Oh no
virginia tech is under a lockdown again after theres been reports of a guy going around campus with a gun
Really bored at work and we have a 12:05 TAM/TOR game
Anyone have a legit opinion on the outcome?
by Wieters Wieners on Aug 4, 2011 11:57 AM EDT reply actions
Gut instinct says TAM to cover
but I have absolutely nothing to base that on.
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
TB's offense is so fickle...
It’s weird how cold they can get sometimes for a stretch.
by Wieters Wieners on Aug 4, 2011 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Welp
I took Toronto as dogs here…
Wade Davis has really been struggling and Cecil has been pitching great on the road. Both teams have virtually the same record so I’ll lean on the better pitcher as a dog today.
by Wieters Wieners on Aug 4, 2011 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions
It really just makes the games a lot more interesting for me to watch.
The money is cool when I win, and I’m not that worried about it when I lose. I’ve got money.
But I’m sitting here bored at work and I can stare at the TB/TOR Gamecast and not really give a shit about it and agonize watching the clock for the next 3.5 hours. Or I can slap a bet down, and have an interesting afternoon.
by Wieters Wieners on Aug 4, 2011 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm really just fucking with you
Honestly I’ve got my degenerate streak. Internet poker going offline was a good thing for me.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
How much do you have still tied up with FT?
I was finally getting back into it and was just about to make deposit before things got shut down.
I had a little less than 1100 in there
Still haven’t gotten it yet.
by Wieters Wieners on Aug 4, 2011 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Have you gotten any emails about it recently?
When it first happened FT was sending me a lot of emails about it, but I haven’t gotten anything in a while.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Last I heard they were going to have hearings on it and to get comfortable.
I haven’t heard a peep from them recently. I’m already resigned to the fact I’ll never see a dime of it.
by Wieters Wieners on Aug 4, 2011 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions
How can you get the blood flowing if it's not real??
FT for me although I think I also still have a bodog account, but I didn’t like their format. I had randomly just made a withdrawal about a month before, so I only have 400-500 bucks in there. Haven’t even checked to see what’s going on with that, but I assume I’ll be able to get it out eventually?
The real problem for me was when all the sites started putting blackjack on there. I was a Party Poker player originally and for a while after college did that for spending money while recovering from TJ, but then when they added blackjack my withdrawals ceased. haha I would win at poker all day and then I’d go out with friends and come home drunk and fire up some tourneys but if I got one bad beat I’d go right to blackjack and lose $200 in about 15 minutes.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Dude
I could have very well just typed that entire paragraph.
I had to make a real firm decision to cut off the online blackjack. I don’t even trust it. I routinely make money at blackjack in the casino by keeping track of what cards come out, but online I’d always get bent over on every big hand. At some point a couple years back after about 15 Coronas I fired it up (my online sportsbook had just added it). Well, I had a decent line of credit on there because I knew the guy and had “paid up” some big amounts before. 6 hours later I was eating an $8,000 loss and wanted to jump off a fucking bridge.
That wasn’t a cool convo with the wife the next day. There was no clever accounting that would have hidden it.
by Wieters Wieners on Aug 4, 2011 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh I don't trust it AT ALL
it’s definitely rigged. haha
lol I had some rough nights, but luckily the poker sites don’t do the lines of credit so my losses were capped.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Also
I started getting killed when I started playing like 4 RUSH tables at once. Churning out 1,000 hands an hour and was just getting pasted. I suppose it’s because at that fast pace everyone can be more selective so you get a lot fewer donkeys.
by Wieters Wieners on Aug 4, 2011 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah
I never played more than 3 tourneys at a time. Whenever I tried 4 it ended badly. I also didn’t have an external monitor at that point so 4 tourneys on a little laptop screen is pretty hard.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
I was crushed the $11 sit and gos for awhile
I would do the $11 45-player ones and I was killing it. First place paid $172 I think so you’d only have to get like one first place tourney every 16 and then all your other cashes would be profit (it paid out to 6th place).
Those you could just sit around and blind out and find yourself at the final two tables in no time.
by Wieters Wieners on Aug 4, 2011 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions
I loved those when I had time
but I usually played 3 of the 6 man $22 rush tourneys at a time. I liked those because you could be done in about 45 minutes and for a while I was consistently placing in all 3 and winning at least 1.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
My buddies always called those "Superdonks"
The 6-man SUPERTURBOs… You’d either get blinded out, sucked out on, or double up in like 10 minutes. I loved playing those drunk because of the quick action.
Now I’m getting the itch brah… gotta make a run out to Charles Town tonight.
by Wieters Wieners on Aug 4, 2011 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh I've had the itch for a few months now
I have a semi-regular game with buddies, that I pretty much dominate or get sucked out on, but it’s more about getting drunk. A few months ago somebody decided it would be a good idea to, in addition to all the beers everybody drinks, pass around a bottle until it’s killed.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
BLEH
I hate forced liquor drinking. I like doing liquor on my own terms. Whats the buy-in/format?
I use to have a $50 game on Thursdays with about 10 buddies but it died. Then there used to be a $200 buy-in game on Fridays with about 45-50 people that I played in only a handful of times. Luckily, the new casino (Charles Town) is only 22 miles from my house.
by Wieters Wieners on Aug 4, 2011 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions
haha
I generally don’t like it either, but I’ve gotten used to it now.
We play $40 buy-in and there ranges between 8-12 people (we’ve only had to do 2 tables once) with 3rd getting 40 back, 2nd getting 120 or 80 if there’s 8 or fewer, 1st getting the rest. Re-buys through the first hour – usually 3-4 rebuys haha.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Made my first trip to teh track in OC
Didn’t make a dime, but it was a fun evening. Won 3 out of 11 bets, and they were all for Show.
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
He couldn't bet win cuz you KNOW one of those ponies was his drive home.
"Human beings make life so interesting. Do you know, that in a universe so full of wonders, they have managed to invent boredom?" ~ Death
I did bet Place once, I think
Didn’t win. Damn horse looked like he had a seizure by the quarter pole.
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
How can you get the blood flowing if it’s not real??
I’ve never understood free poker. It’s just one of those games you can’t REALLY play without money involved. You know, like boggle…
by Wieters Wieners on Aug 4, 2011 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions
The problem with free poker is
every hand you join, some asshat usually goes all in on the first hand because it doesn’t matter.
That's not the problem
The problem is when he gets 7 callers.
by Wieters Wieners on Aug 4, 2011 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions
I did the exact same thing in college
I’d play poker sober, make money, come home from the bars drunk, lose it all in blackjack
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Aug 4, 2011 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions
So who did you take?
TOR with an early 2-0 lead.
"That ball is gone. We'll pause ten seconds to commit suicide ... I mean, for a station identification." - Joe Angel, 6/17/11
by Eat More Esskay on Aug 4, 2011 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Blue Jays
I think I put it above before it started so I didn’t look like a bullshitter.
Tor had bases loaded and no outs and one already on the board in the first.
Could’ve been a really big inning but they went: double play, strikeout.
Only ended up with 2.
by Wieters Wieners on Aug 4, 2011 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions
So it's just like watching the Orioles!
"That ball is gone. We'll pause ten seconds to commit suicide ... I mean, for a station identification." - Joe Angel, 6/17/11
by Eat More Esskay on Aug 4, 2011 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions
My parents are in Las Vegas for a few days and my dad just called and asked if he should bet against the Orioles.
It’s funny, because I would say in the aggregate, bet against the Orioles, but if there’s only one game that’s being bet on, I am lost. Maybe Zach Britton will turn it around. Maybe Jeff Francis won’t inexplicably shut us down.
…yeah, I told him to bet against the O’s.
"That ball is gone. We'll pause ten seconds to commit suicide ... I mean, for a station identification." - Joe Angel, 6/17/11
by Eat More Esskay on Aug 4, 2011 12:05 PM EDT reply actions
Take BAL +1.5... you can get that ticket for pretty cheap and even if the Os lose by 1 they'll cash it.
It’s a safer bet for noobs.
Francis is seriously not that great, hopefully Zach can keep em in it.
by Wieters Wieners on Aug 4, 2011 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Basketball
tons of junk points in the last minute from free throws, etc can really screw up the spread
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Aug 4, 2011 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions
THIS x 1000
Or backdoor covers in football. You bet on USC -20 and they are up 24 with 7-8 minutes to go. The other team scores a TD to close it to 17 and you have to sit there and watch USC burn 6 minutes off the clock in the running game before eventually taking the knee, winning by 17, and completely dicking you over once again by the fucking backdoor cover.
by Wieters Wieners on Aug 4, 2011 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions
I completely disagree
I’ve had by far the most success betting on baseball and it’s not because I know more or less, but because of the way it’s structured. You can pick your spots with pitching matchups where your bet is very much favored to win. Say, taking CC against Jeff Francis (you obviously have to pay more for the ticket and in the longrun its about value), but unlike betting any other sport, YOU are actually favored to win your bet much of the time. It’s about picking your spots though. Most of the bets I make (Like the Blue Jays right now) are just eff off bets to pass the time. But when I find one I really like I unload on it.
The NFL’s lines are virtually perfect. There is so much more money at stake on a slate of Sunday football games that those lines have to be DEAD accurate. With baseball, a line will open at -135 overnight and by gametime it could be -160. It’s much less precise and they mess up a lot because of the sheer volume of games.
For instance, I UNLOADED on a game a couple months back after Guthrie was pulled in in extra innings after Mike Gonzalez got that face shot setting up a next day matchup between Bergeson and CC (our team was in total shambles at the time as usual). The bullpen was totally shot since we used up every one of them the night before and I slammmmmmmed a bet down on the Yanks at -170. It was a no-doubter and was quickly 10-0 or something like that.
In any case, I prefer moneylines to point spreads and find there to be more value in them.
by Wieters Wieners on Aug 4, 2011 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions
"The NFL’s lines are virtually perfect."
Truer words never spoken. It’s almost scary how close they end up being. I keep thinking I’ll drive up to Harrington to do a NFL parlay, and I look at the lines, and I’m like, “Damn, there’s no sure things on here, let alone 3.”
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Dude, if you use paypal and ever want action, just hit me up on FB or Gchat or whatever.
We can work it out easily. Now, drop that 8 kilabyte thumbdrive you got in the mail already.
by Wieters Wieners on Aug 4, 2011 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions
I suck at gambling. Absolutely suck.
Thanks for the offer, but I’d be homeless by the Ravens’ bye week. And that’s Week 5.
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
OK, that's a bet I'd put money on
But week to week with lines? I’d be homeless in a month.
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Me too Duck. I'm flat-out awful across the board.
And I don’t have any money to donate like that.
I get to emotional with my bets.
It is the same reason I lose fantasy sports every year. I get too attached to the guys I draft and don’t know when to cut my losses.
I'm pretty good at FBB
My FFB money is just a donation – every single year. I’m awful at football.
Fantasy NASCAR is where it's at, people
Seriously, I won over $300 one year.
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
He said fantasy SPORTS
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Aug 4, 2011 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions
I've always been completely awful at baseball so that's probably why I think it's hard
It’s the only sport I consistently lost money on. But I take back my previous statement, because AMD was right, basketball is the hardest. And college basketball is by far the hardest.
I think the best sports to bet on go like this (without thinking too hard so forgive me if i forgot something) and I didn’t add hockey because i don’t know shit about it or watch it.
1) Boxing
2) NFL
3) Soccer (Prem League)
4) baseball
5) college football
6)NBA
7) college bball
@sibsInExile
Anyone here bet UFC?
I am not a big gambler but I was just wondering if the sport had grown to the point of serious betting?
I do on CentSport
but yeah, Vegas post lines, and it’s growing.
And whatever the line is on Rashad this weekend, take it. No way Tito wins that fight. Rashad’s better at everything Tito’s good at.
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
How has Ben askren been doing with his transition?
I wish there were a viable pro-wrestling league but really it looks like UFC is going to be the only outlet for wrestlers to continue their careers.
He's taking out lesser opposition in Bellator
When the time’s right, he’ll jump to UFC, make the big money, and win matches there. He’s been a very shrewd manager of his MMA career.
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Let's review again, class
1. Follow the Pac 10/12 assiduously (deciduously, whatever— up to and incl. the injury and weather reports);
2. Take a look before putting your rubles down at how the line has moved over the preceding 3-5 days;
3. Figure in a “dog at home” factor (if applicable) for both the Oregons & Washingtons (marginally smaller now at U Dub); a slightly smaller one for the deserts; and a slightly smaller one than that for the CA venues;
4. Bet more than your norm on home games vs. out-of-conf teams;
5. Don’t bet over-under; bet non-conf regionals modestly; bet no more than 1 [one] non-conf non-regional per week— you don’t really know jack about them;
6. Enjoy.You won’t make a living, but should come out plus enough to cover fall semester (in-state) tuition.
p.s. Wazzu can break your heart/wallet/grip on reality. If you’re going to skip something on a tough-to-call week…
Welcome to the Suck: Narrating the Oriole Fan's Experience 1998-2011
Also
Covers.com is the best source for most of this information (particularly line movement at all books).
by Wieters Wieners on Aug 4, 2011 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Check. And on the other end of the spectrum, treat anything from Bleacher Report with a LARGE grain o' salt
Welcome to the Suck: Narrating the Oriole Fan's Experience 1998-2011
Man how long can this Craig Counsel thing continue????
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
.145/.235/.179
Now THAT is some kinda slash line
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by 33 on Aug 4, 2011 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe he'll make it to 56
And become the anti-DiMaggio
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by 33 on Aug 4, 2011 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Speaking of gambling
The DOW is down another 300 points. Buckle up.
by Wieters Wieners on Aug 4, 2011 12:42 PM EDT reply actions
Good thing its international IPA day.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Aug 4, 2011 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Didn't this happen over a week ago?
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Aug 4, 2011 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions
I think it was a week ago.
I didn’t see anyone post it before. Apologies, if so.
From the Land of Pleasant Living...
Dan Szymborski FanGraphs Chat – 8/4/11
Szym is an O’s fan so he’s answering a lot of O’s questions including this interesting tidbit.
Comment From Jimmy
I’ll tell you what’s wrong with the O’s: Zach Britton has contributed more offensively than Vladimir Guerrero. True story.
12:48
Dan Szymborski: I think I mentioned that on Twitter last week. At the time, Britton had more offensive WAR than Vlad and Lee combined.
BOOM!
Comment From Matt Wieters
Will I ever be a truly worthwhile fantasy catcher? Where did my power go?12:36
Dan Szymborski: Well, he’s still going to end up with 15 home runs or so. I know it’s disappointing for Wieters to be merely an average catcher, but catchers have weird developmental curves.
Comment From Myles
I’m not a die-hard O’s fan, but I see the trend of disappointing home-grown SP’s, despite the fact that no one really raised a brow when they were drafted. What do you see as the biggest problem within their development process?
12:29
Dan Szymborski: I can’t exactly say why the O’s particular pitchers have failed, but there’s a pattern in the O’s organization in which they seem to make decisions based on what they want a player to be rather than what the player is.
Comment From Myles
I’m not a die-hard O’s fan, but I see the trend of disappointing home-grown SP’s, despite the fact that no one really raised a brow when they were drafted. What do you see as the biggest problem within their development process?
12:29
Dan Szymborski: I can’t exactly say why the O’s particular pitchers have failed, but there’s a pattern in the O’s organization in which they seem to make decisions based on what they want a player to be rather than what the player is.
Comment From steve
Thoughts on the Uehara trade?
12:56
Dan Szymborski: I really liked it from the O’s perspective – they don’t really have a lot of great prospect depth and could use guys like that (if you still call them prospects). The Rangers are giving up a lot ofr their relief help, but they did at least get actual good relievers and they’re in a competitive position where you can trade away future value without worrying to much.
The Andy MacPhail plan: "Grow nothing. Buy the pen," (Wieters Weiner 2011).
Vlad and our pitcher's WAR
I pointed that out a month ago:
http://www.camdenchat.com/2011/7/11/2269758/birds-up-os-down-for-june-27-july-10#71702112
Nice to see Vlad still hasn’t caught up to all of them. I guess WAR doesn’t measure how much pressure is put on the defense.
Needs an 'unconventionality' adjuster too
What a poorly constructed stat
I hope Szym is right about the Koji deal, but I’m not feeling it.
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by 33 on Aug 4, 2011 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions
this is exactly right
there’s a pattern in the O’s organization in which they seem to make decisions based on what they want a player to be rather than what the player is.
Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the Orioles' season?
Sidebar: I told the Blue Jays guy 9:30. That's good for you, right?
"That ball is gone. We'll pause ten seconds to commit suicide ... I mean, for a station identification." - Joe Angel, 6/17/11
by Eat More Esskay on Aug 4, 2011 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions
yup, brilliant
i think it explains a great deal of the O’s behavior in handling Tillman, Reimold, and Uehara. And why the O’s won’t move Jones off of CF or Reynolds off of 3B.
The Andy MacPhail plan: "Grow nothing. Buy the pen," (Wieters Weiner 2011).
or why the O's won't move Vlad off of DH or kept batting Lee high in the batting order.
The Andy MacPhail plan: "Grow nothing. Buy the pen," (Wieters Weiner 2011).
yeah. I can think of a million other examples, too
why they got Millwood or refused to release him last year, why they keep signing bad expensive relievers and then using them despite the results, why Pie keeps getting starts, why Andino got to bat leadoff for so long, maybe literally a million other things.
Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the Orioles' season?
Felix gained 0.1 WAR in last night's game!
He went from -2.0 to -1.9. Progress.
"That ball is gone. We'll pause ten seconds to commit suicide ... I mean, for a station identification." - Joe Angel, 6/17/11
by Eat More Esskay on Aug 4, 2011 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions
It rang true to me when I read it
but the more I think about it, the less I’m sure how you can parse the problem of expectations from the problem of player development. You draft in an environment where there is a general consensus of the ‘projectability’ of the top players. Then you don’t successfully develop the players you draft and what are you going to do? Say so and start over while the same old vets suck in the majors, or pretend like they still are what they projected to be, build up some false hope and muddle through their failure in the majors to buy time to try again? Are you really making a decision based on a self-delusion or are you saving face for the organizational failure? Maybe acting naive is the real hoax and the fact is that the GMs are doing what they know (draft, trade, buy FAs stupidly) but don’t know how you actually build an effective farm system?
I’m not assuming that all players fail to develop based on organizational development weaknesses, of course. They may not develop regardless of your efforts because of failures in the initial projection or bad luck or whatever. We can’t parse any of that reliably on individual cases – but when the lack of success is this consistent, you have to think that there is something wrong with the system.
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by 33 on Aug 4, 2011 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Then you don’t successfully develop the players you draft and what are you going to do?
look at what they have developed too and play to those strengths. that’s what you do. and that doesn’t apply to just the young players. it applies to vlad who occupies the clean up spot despite having no business batting there.
The Andy MacPhail plan: "Grow nothing. Buy the pen," (Wieters Weiner 2011).
Shoulda been clearer
Even though the responses turned to veterans, I was only thinking in terms of the original question about development and thinking about what a GM should do.
Hell yes, playing to whatever strengths you’ve got is what a manager should do and Buck does not do. Prefer power to running but you’ve got Coggins, Bumbry and Blair? You run like hell, don’t like it and try to win anyway. A lesson from from the master, who would not have had Vlad in the 4 hole for months.
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by 33 on Aug 4, 2011 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions
even the young guys
Jones really isn’t cut out to be a CF. But the O’s see him as a CF. I guess I don’t understand your point of parsing expectations from the problem of player development. You readjust your expectations based on development.
The Andy MacPhail plan: "Grow nothing. Buy the pen," (Wieters Weiner 2011).
I was shocked to find out we are 5th in the majors in homers
yet still suck at scoring. If that is the case then I don’t know why Prince Fielder would do anything for us. He may hit 45 home runs but if they are all singletons like this year then it will be pointless.
We'd do well with all Singletons
Ken, not Chris.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
Dead middle of the pack in OBP (15 in mlb)
10th in slugging; 19th in scoring … so we’re a bit unlucky. We play in a division where the other teams are 1, 2, 6 and 14 in scoring in MLB (1, 2 and 12 in obp and 1, 3, 7 in SLG) – 19 games against each of those plus shitty pitching makes for a pretty awful team. Plain and simple, if we had average pitching to go with our average offense, we’d be a pretty average team. If someone – ANYONE – saw the value in our batters getting on base, then the home runs would mean more. It’s a complete systemic failure, so at least we have that going for us.
if we got to hit against Orioles pitching
the scoring would be higher, I bet
Youth may come and go, but immaturity can last a lifetime.
I agree with you about what they should do
What I’m not sure of is whether they’re not doing it because they are actually deluded about what the guys are, or stuck acting like they believe it because if not, then what? Put Jones in LF, DH Reynolds, put the hoped for SPs in the bullpen or back in the minors and your inability to backfill all those holes is more plain to see.
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by 33 on Aug 4, 2011 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions
ah gotcha
it’s probably a little of both. they’re a bit deluded and they don’t have attractive alternatives. i think they recognize that reynolds and jones aren’t GG players but they deluding themselves in that they don’t recognize just how bad they are because they don’t understand the concept of run prevention. at the same time, they might recognize improved team performance from moving reynolds and jones, but they believe that would only cause other problems because they don’t see any good alternatives…. which sounds about right at least internally. Bell can’t handle third nor can pie handle CF. they could trade for a glove but i don’t see that happening.
The Andy MacPhail plan: "Grow nothing. Buy the pen," (Wieters Weiner 2011).
Hadn't seen this far into it
they are deluding themselves in that they don’t recognize just how bad they are because they don’t understand the concept of run prevention
That sounds right on.
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by 33 on Aug 4, 2011 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions
The Royals SBN blog asks, "How hopeless is it for the Baltimore Orioles?"
http://www.royalsreview.com/2011/8/4/2343909/how-hopeless-is-it-for-the-baltimore-orioles
You can’t post in the thread unless you’ve previously joined the blog, but my answer is, “Pretty damn hopeless.”
"That ball is gone. We'll pause ten seconds to commit suicide ... I mean, for a station identification." - Joe Angel, 6/17/11
If you would have asked the 1997 version of me what it would be like for to hear Royals fans to look down at the team.
I would have either laughed or immediately started suspecting that Bizarro Superman would swoop down at any second.
Have we hit rock bottom yet?
probably even the Pirates have passed the O's.
The Andy MacPhail plan: "Grow nothing. Buy the pen," (Wieters Weiner 2011).
I don't know...
ownership in Pittsburgh is content to spend as little money as possible, all the while cooking their books and raking in the revenue sharing funds.
PGA will spend, but he’s hired the wrong people post-Gillick to spend it.
‘Contrairiwise,’ continued Tweedledee, ‘if it was so, it might
be; and if it were so, it would be: but as it isn’t, it ain’t. That’s
logic.’ — Through the Looking Glass, Lewis Carroll
by TerroristFistJab on Aug 4, 2011 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions
damn, i just saw that they lost 6 in row. bummer.
The Andy MacPhail plan: "Grow nothing. Buy the pen," (Wieters Weiner 2011).
I think rock bottom is when Astros fans are looking down on the Orioles.
Although at least those guys were in the NLCS in the middle of the last decade.
If the Pirates pull off a winning season this year, we are the bottom. Damn.
"That ball is gone. We'll pause ten seconds to commit suicide ... I mean, for a station identification." - Joe Angel, 6/17/11
by Eat More Esskay on Aug 4, 2011 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions
now i'm looking at the comments.
I don’t think the collection of young talent they have was a highly regarded as our group, but it was pretty highly regarded. And for the most part, they’re all either "meh", or big flops.
The current Royals young talent pisses all over our young talent circa 2009 and it’s not even close.
The Andy MacPhail plan: "Grow nothing. Buy the pen," (Wieters Weiner 2011).
Right.
Also, it took three MLB seasons for Alex Gordon to do anything, and he’s broken out in a big way this year. Honestly, Alex Gordon is what gives me any hope at all for Chris Davis.
Ha
I picked up Alex Gordon as a flyer in one of my leagues just because of some random dudes comments on Dugout Central about how based on what he was seeing in ST he was gonna have a big year. I figured it wouldn’t hurt and he was out there….needless to say, I’ve been pleasantly suprised.
"Real Orioles don't pout. Real Orioles don't gloat. Real Orioles just win."
by NewYorkOriole on Aug 4, 2011 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Yup
I have him in all three of my leagues. In two, i got him in the 24/25 round, the other I got him as undrafted.
Of course … I also drafted him each of the last two years. So … umm … at least I’m consistent? (And have no sense of pattern-recognition?)
Hire the best GM candidate on the market and let him assemble a new team.
We want Andrew Friedman!
And yeah, he’s right. I was hoping to delay on rebuilding decisions until the offseason, but I’m about 98% sure that’s the right move right now. Didn’t know that dude lived in BAL.
The Andy MacPhail plan: "Grow nothing. Buy the pen," (Wieters Weiner 2011).
I have noticed there are a fair number of DC/MD/VA people on other SBN blogs.
I mean, they are originally from that team’s area and ended up here and the O’s and Nats are what’s on TV.
"That ball is gone. We'll pause ten seconds to commit suicide ... I mean, for a station identification." - Joe Angel, 6/17/11
by Eat More Esskay on Aug 4, 2011 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Friedman AND his scouting staff
"Human beings make life so interesting. Do you know, that in a universe so full of wonders, they have managed to invent boredom?" ~ Death
you mean we've got a chance?!
The Andy MacPhail plan: "Grow nothing. Buy the pen," (Wieters Weiner 2011).
Well if I'm dreaming
"Human beings make life so interesting. Do you know, that in a universe so full of wonders, they have managed to invent boredom?" ~ Death
The comment on Wieters is sorta stupid though.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
Damn
I was gonna make fun of them about “How many WS rings… etc” but then I realized they’ve won a WS ring more recently than us.
I’m going to go kill myself now.
by Wieters Wieners on Aug 4, 2011 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions
You have so much to live for!
Granted, not much of it has anything to do with the Orioles, but still.
"That ball is gone. We'll pause ten seconds to commit suicide ... I mean, for a station identification." - Joe Angel, 6/17/11
by Eat More Esskay on Aug 4, 2011 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions
I live for meaningful stuff like this:
Markakis has got a hit in every series for like 200 straight series!!!!!!!
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
Haha that is a rediculous stat
1 hit every 3 games…4 at bats a game…a .111 BA could accomplish that impressive feat.
It's one of MASN's favorite stats to point out.
"That ball is gone. We'll pause ten seconds to commit suicide ... I mean, for a station identification." - Joe Angel, 6/17/11
by Eat More Esskay on Aug 4, 2011 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions
How much does the odd 4 game series bring down that BA?
"Human beings make life so interesting. Do you know, that in a universe so full of wonders, they have managed to invent boredom?" ~ Death
It's hard out there for a gambler.
"That ball is gone. We'll pause ten seconds to commit suicide ... I mean, for a station identification." - Joe Angel, 6/17/11
by Eat More Esskay on Aug 4, 2011 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions
When you tryna get this money for a toddler
(fuckin can’t rhyme yo)
"Human beings make life so interesting. Do you know, that in a universe so full of wonders, they have managed to invent boredom?" ~ Death
for some reason I read the content of this post with the tune of 16 tons in my head.
2 outs and a 3 run dong, what do you get another day older and deeper in debt.
Tied, BOT 9, I see
You ain’t got shit done in HOURS, have you?
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
If it goes to extras it just may take me to the end of the day
Funny thing, I bought my Os tickets for tomorrow’s game on Stubhub. Paid $20 each (plus a couple bucks in fees) for 4 tickets, Section 82, and Row 3.
I threw them on Craigslist for $35 just as a hailmary in case someone uses Craigslist and not Stubhub and some lady just bought them. So now I can go back to Stubhub and upgrade my seats baby with her money!
by Wieters Wieners on Aug 4, 2011 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Wait...
You’ll rack up 8000 in debt on a blackjack website but you were worried about the extra 15 bucks per ticket?
You may really have a problem.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
$8,000 doesn't just make itself back, you know.
"That ball is gone. We'll pause ten seconds to commit suicide ... I mean, for a station identification." - Joe Angel, 6/17/11
by Eat More Esskay on Aug 4, 2011 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Dude, I'm always a scraper...
You gotta be able to separate the two. When I was younger, I’d win a big bet and then pick up the check of everyone I was with. When I lost, get what happened… nothing. I paid my own check. So I quickly learned that that was an unsustainable business model. I mean, Im not gonna go coupon cutting. But if I’m sitting at work anyway and can bank an even $50 for sending a few emails and making a few clicks, I’ll do it everytime. It’ll buy my first 8 beers tomorrow SON!
by Wieters Wieners on Aug 4, 2011 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions
I wasn't condemning the quick 15 bucks
as much as the willingness to drop the 8k. Guess it makes sense. Gotta spend waaaaaay too much money to make money, right?
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
Yeah, like I said.. it was a night of drunken misery.
Shit happens
by Wieters Wieners on Aug 4, 2011 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions
A former Finance Minister said
“If you want to make a small fortune in Israel, bring a large fortune with you”
"Baseball is an island of activity in a sea of statistics." - Anon
After you blow 8000 bucks you may not have the 15 extra
"Human beings make life so interesting. Do you know, that in a universe so full of wonders, they have managed to invent boredom?" ~ Death
So, dumplings with lima beans and bacon chunks for lunch
OK, the dumplings are Aunt Annie’s (that’s a brand, btw, not a relative) and the beans are frozen, but I get some Shore points for this.
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Didn't turn out bad...
Threw in chicken, too. :) But I burnt a few of the dumplings on the bottom of the pot, and yeah, sure enough, it tastes slightly burnt. Nothing some salt and pepper can’t take of.
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
pre-season coaches poll out for college FB
it means jack shit after the first few weeks, but it’s still fun to see some SEC dominance
SEC – 8 teams
Big 10 – 5 teams
Big 12 – 5 teams
Non-major/Independent – 3 teams
Pac 12 (still weird to say) – 2 teams (both in top 6)
ACC – 2 teams
LOL ACC, you guys really should just stick to basketball
carolina in my mind...
At least we're not buying our players!
Or, at least, haven’t been caught buying our players.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
because UNC didn't just fire there coach because of improper benefits going to players
carolina in my mind...
Yea....I forgot about that.
Fuck UNC anyways. Nobody cares about them.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Aug 4, 2011 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Big East is even sadder.
This coming from someone who grew up in the blue lot at WVU football games.
Pac 12 is going to have Gus Johnson announcing.
That’ll be the shit.
I like throwing baseballs & footballs. Walks on beach are cool, especially w/wife & kids or some Bieber beats. Shoes are my passion and I love to ride bikes. - Guts' Twitter Bio
by BaltimoreSportsFan on Aug 4, 2011 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Wow....I find that to be a very ironic statement.
College football, especially the SEC, is the epitome of class!
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
oh. snap.
I like throwing baseballs & footballs. Walks on beach are cool, especially w/wife & kids or some Bieber beats. Shoes are my passion and I love to ride bikes. - Guts' Twitter Bio
by BaltimoreSportsFan on Aug 4, 2011 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions
you're right
i should have revised my statement to:
“keep sucking ACC”
at least you guys can claim college baseball this pas…. oh wait, nevermind, we got you in that one too
carolina in my mind...
I'm just happy the ACC has even minor academic standards for athletes.
And actually enforce them.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
Women's field hockey is not a sport for the faint hearted
I watched a couple matches and that can get brutal. Saw a girl get smashed in the face on a back swing. Granted it was illegal to raise the shelegleigh above the waist but it was still pretty brutal.
Who do you think will win that tournament for the national championship this year?
Oh, right. Let me know when it’s basketball season.
"That ball is gone. We'll pause ten seconds to commit suicide ... I mean, for a station identification." - Joe Angel, 6/17/11
by Eat More Esskay on Aug 4, 2011 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions
From Klaw chat
Fredo C. (Lake Tahoe, NV)
Regarding your Cape League comment – will 2012 be a bad draft or just a weak year down on the peninsula?
Klaw (1:28 PM)
It’s a weak college draft. Maybe a very weak one.
good thing the o’s will have a top 3 pick again i guess.
The Andy MacPhail plan: "Grow nothing. Buy the pen," (Wieters Weiner 2011).
Let's get a HS bat!
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
by duck on Aug 4, 2011 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I hate you for making me go to that page.
"Baseball is an island of activity in a sea of statistics." - Anon
And he's OPSing under .550 at Bowie
I’d like to think this is his last season with our minor league system. There can’t possibly be a reason to keep him, can there?
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Duck, I just watched the Christie video you posted
Appreciating something he said is a very odd feeling
I don't think we have to fear getting used to it out of him
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
The Kinks were on the radio in the bathroom at work
I was hearing the song, but the only thing going through my mind when I was humming it was “Yoda….. Yo Yo Yo Yo yoooooda…”
"Human beings make life so interesting. Do you know, that in a universe so full of wonders, they have managed to invent boredom?" ~ Death
by NSOsFan on Aug 4, 2011 3:12 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
"Give The People What They Want" is a seriously underrated CD
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
You may shoot me
but Def Leppard actually did a half-decent version of “Waterloo Sunset” on their covers album…
"Human beings make life so interesting. Do you know, that in a universe so full of wonders, they have managed to invent boredom?" ~ Death
hysteria rules.
so first four albums.
The Andy MacPhail plan: "Grow nothing. Buy the pen," (Wieters Weiner 2011).
Hysteria blows chunks
The songwriting is so, so far below High & Dry, their best album.
What, you thought it was Pyromania?
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
WRONG
Hysteria/Pyromania are awesome. High and Dry was boring by comparison.
And they are insanely good live. I went a month or 2 back expecting it to be a bit of a joke and nostalgia. Those bastards can bring it though.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
You people are nuts
Me & My Wine might be the best song they ever recorded.
Pyromania was great when it came out, but the sound quality didn’t hold up well – it sounds now like it was recorded under a wet twoel, especially the drums.
Hysteria made it so I never bought another CD from the band. God, that thing is horrible.
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Seriously, that guitar solo & lyrics like this?
My hair’s a real mess, I feel and look like a joke
And there’s a hole in my jeans, I just ran right out of smokes
You know I’d like to get to know you
But I ain’t got the time
I’m finding it harder and harder
To make this damn thing rhyme
Just me and my wine
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Maybe I'm the only one with this
But I had a cassette copy of Pyromania that had some sort of series of strange looping mechanical drum-like sounds that started about 5 minutes after Side B finished. I haven’t been able to find anything on this to figure out what the hell it was or if it may have just been a recording glitch on just my copy of the tape. I thikn I still have the damn cassette somewhere…
"Human beings make life so interesting. Do you know, that in a universe so full of wonders, they have managed to invent boredom?" ~ Death
It wasn't just you
They even put it on the CD.
On the original ALBUM, which I had, it was set so it would loop infinitely in the end grooves when the side was done.
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Ohhh it was one of those.. slip into the last groove and never end? Tricky, boys
"Human beings make life so interesting. Do you know, that in a universe so full of wonders, they have managed to invent boredom?" ~ Death
hysteria and animals are a couple of favorite DF songs along with photograph
besides motley crue, what would strip clubs play without pour some sugar on me?
The Andy MacPhail plan: "Grow nothing. Buy the pen," (Wieters Weiner 2011).
Wait, what?
Music we agree on???
Album is a fascinating exploration of the dark side, “Killer’s Eyes”, “Art Lover”, “A Little Abuse”…
"If you don't like the effect, don't produce the cause."
- George Clinton
Derrick Mason to the Jets
Between them and the Skins’ who will have the more Ravens’ rejects?
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Yeah
But Ravens are getting Malcom Floyd who I’d rather have anyway.
I mean, I love Mason and his leadership, but we needed to get younger.
by Wieters Wieners on Aug 4, 2011 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Are these done deals?
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Aug 4, 2011 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions
All but
Also, picking up Pollard was nice to replace Landry with.
by Wieters Wieners on Aug 4, 2011 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Pollard is "poor in coverage."
That’s not good. He hits the snot out of people and plays the run well, but he’s awful in coverage and that’s very not good.
As long as Reed stays healthy,
I think its actually a good pairing. We don’t need our strong safety to be as good in coverage as some other teams do.
I don’t know … Reed is a great ball hawk, but he’s not great in coverage either – he guesses way too much to be considered a good coverage guy. For me, we need the strong safety to be good in coverage to allow Reed to do what he does best. That’s just my take, but I’ll admit that I’m not great at football strategery.
neither one is a done deal
mason just visited the jets today and we’re still talking to floyd, but nothing is definite yet
right now i’m more concerned that tyrod taylor is currently our back-up QB and that we don’t have a healthy center that’s played in an NFL game before
carolina in my mind...
I love Floyd
I was just saying the other day how much I would love to sign him to replace mason, but hadn’t heard anything connecting Floyd and the Ravens. Glad theres finally some talk.
They've been the "front runner" and in the "driver's seat" for a couple days.
by Wieters Wieners on Aug 4, 2011 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Damn he's old!
I thought he was some young, up and coming guy last year just though fantasy knowledge and stuff. Dude will be 30 in a month, played college ball at friggin Wyoming. He’s far from “the answer” here. But I do love that he’s 6’5. That’ll give us an end zone target to go along with Boldin as the possession receiver and hopefully Torrey Smith as the burner out of the slot.
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Aug 4, 2011 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions
That’ll give us an end zone target to go along with Boldin as the possession receiver and hopefully Torrey Smith as the burner out of the slot.
Thats what i’m thinking. Floyd also was stuck down the depth chart for a while in San Diego, he should less miles on his legs than most 30 year old receivers.
Plus they said that Mason and Boldin did a lot of the same things
Running underneath routes and stuff. Floyd can stretch the field for the.
by Wieters Wieners on Aug 4, 2011 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Floyd averaged 19+ per reception last year.
If he can get down the field and draw coverage, it’ll make Bolden a better receiver for sure. Torrey as the burner … anything to get Bolden some single coverage and keep the safeties off of the line of scrimmage.
It's hard out there for a betta
Tryna pick dem winnaz an make dat chedda
"That ball is gone. We'll pause ten seconds to commit suicide ... I mean, for a station identification." - Joe Angel, 6/17/11
by Eat More Esskay on Aug 4, 2011 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions
You gotta be fuckin shitting me
After going up 6-4 in the 11th, TB just tied it up again in the bottom half.
by Wieters Wieners on Aug 4, 2011 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Why was 0-4 Johnny Damon intentionally walked to get to Longo. Is this a Yahoo mistake?
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Aug 4, 2011 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Nope
Right-Righty thing. I thought it was dumb though because now you have no room for walks.
by Wieters Wieners on Aug 4, 2011 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Did he hit a homer yet?
I need points in fantasy.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
Yes, you got your frikkin fantasy points
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
I think it worked, though.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
For like a second
This asshole is about to give up another run. When does a team ever take the lead TWICE in extras only to lose it? Unreal.
by Wieters Wieners on Aug 4, 2011 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions
It's probably happened to the Orioles some time in the past 13 years.
"That ball is gone. We'll pause ten seconds to commit suicide ... I mean, for a station identification." - Joe Angel, 6/17/11
by Eat More Esskay on Aug 4, 2011 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions
I was thinking that, but didn't want to say it.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
Haha
And then with Upton on 3rd, he intentionally walked Joyce AND Kotchman with one out. WTF
by Wieters Wieners on Aug 4, 2011 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Im just surprised that knuckledick didn't decide to intentionally walk in the winning run
May as well have.
by Wieters Wieners on Aug 4, 2011 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Yep.
Ballgame.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
What fuckwit decided on that one?
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
It's not a terrible idea
TB’s bench is empty. There’s a man on third and game’s over if he scores. Kotchmann and Joyce don’t really matter. You’re just picking who you want to pitch to, and it’s the two scrubs that are 8-9 right now. Their backup catcher and their worst utility IF.
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Aug 4, 2011 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions
I knew that would happen
Still not a bad idea.
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Aug 4, 2011 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Pretty sure they didn’t play to win the game.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
And the backup catcher gets the game winning hit!
"That ball is gone. We'll pause ten seconds to commit suicide ... I mean, for a station identification." - Joe Angel, 6/17/11
by Eat More Esskay on Aug 4, 2011 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions
That plan fails when the backup catcher gets a hit and you lose.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
Bases loaded, two outs, Longo up
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Aug 4, 2011 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Koji sighting in Detroit; on MLB network
Wishing Frank McCourt had been approved to buy the RedSux.....
Huh, took like 45 seconds to disconnect my verizon internet account
was expecting that to be a much bigger hassle
I still probably have some billing stuff to figure out since i cancelled part way into a billing cycle
and have an outstanding balance, but there was no pitch to get me to not cancel or anything.
me neither!
If you look at those UZR ratings or whatever
by dfa on Aug 5, 2011 2:12 AM EDT up reply actions
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