Sunday Bird Droppings
by duck on Aug 7, 2011 8:01 AM EDT
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Morrow, Jays melt down in loss to Orioles - sportsnet.ca
"[F]or five innings it looked like Brandon Morrow, featuring a popping fastball and vicious slider, was on track for something special. He wasn't." Relive the agony of Jays fans last night.
Orioles Insider: Tillman highlights nice night for Orioles
"Tillman probably pitched the best I’ve ever seen him out there," said Orioles right fielder Nick Markakis. "He kept us in the game. That was a real big inning, and a big turning point in that game. Bases loaded and nobody out and what did he give up, one run on a sac fly? You can’t ask for much more out of that." Well, the O's would have found a way not to score any runs, but we understand the sentiment, Nick.
Buck Showalter knows Baltimore Orioles among small-market clubs at a loss in scouting, development
"I know (payrolls are) what everyone looks at when you're talking about this division," Showalter said. "But the real disparity, the disparity that's hurting baseball, is the disparity that no one sees - the amount of money being spent on scouting and player development." And whose fault is that, Buck? Are the evil Yankees and Red Sox stopping the O's from spending, oh, $8 million in the Dominican Republic instead of signing up a washed-up DH?
School of Roch: Speculating on Tuesday's starter
"Orioles manager Buck Showalter hasn't made a final decision on Tuesday night's starter against the White Sox at Camden Yards, but the prime candidates are relievers Jo-Jo Reyes and Brad Bergesen." I'm all tingly with excitement! Who wil it be????????
Steve Melewski: Zach Britton said he is not concerned about his left shoulder
"We're looking at trying to just calm whatever's going on down and they feel like maybe I've been overdoing it a little bit trying to figure some stuff out in the bullpen. I'm kind of going through a rough stretch, so I'm really trying to figure some stuff out and maybe I overdid it a little bit, and it's just, trying to back me off, give me some time off and get going for the rest of the year." Well, that makes me feels tons better to know he's been pitching through pain for a while now, how about you?
Steve Melewski: Patton is throwing well, but other hurlers keep hitting the DL
"It would be nice to see him get more of a chance now and it finally looks like he might. Patton is the only current player active on the Orioles from the trade that sent him and three others to Baltimore when Miguel Tejada was dealt to Houston on December 12, 2007. That deal also made Luke Scott, Matt Albers, Mike Costanzo and Dennis Sarfate members of the Orioles."
Shorebird player battles nerves to play where needed | The Daily Times | delmarvanow.com
"To be honest, I couldn't tell you the last time I played second base in a game," the Delmarva Shorebird said. "I was probably the most nervous I'd been in a long time playing in a game because I didn't want to mess up being at a new position at game speed. I've done the same thing growing up that I'm doing now, it just depends on where the team needed me to play in order to help us win, so if I needed to play second, if I needed to play left or I needed to catch, that's where I played." And we wonder where we go wrong in player development...
Cal Ripken: Teens learning Ripken way - chicagotribune.com
"Billy built a fake brick wall behind (the fence), and we've put ivy around the wall,'' Ripken said. "The only problem is deer keep eating the ivy.'' That complex in Aberdeen is something else, from what I've been told. Call will be in Chicago was a spokesman and coach for the Under Armour All America Baseball Game at Wrigley Field yesterday.
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The Orioles missed the boat on the international market
It’s really foolish to blame the MFY and PHN for our inability to do anything internationally. However, I think that article cautions that the wide disparity in payroll may begin to show up there as well. It looks like it may be starting to, to an extent, but what’s to stop the yanks, sox, phils etc. from putting $30, 40 mil or more into their international efforts and basically block out the rest if the league?
by brek on Aug 7, 2011 8:36 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Risk, obviously
Not to mention that the numbers we are talking about make it impossible. Every team in baseball can spend $4M on an international prospect if they want to, as evidenced by the fact that the teams that have done so include Pittsburgh, Oakland, and Kansas City.
To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa
yeah, but I could see Cashman saying.. (and I know it probably doesn't actualy work this way)
you know, we may not get all of our money back (in terms of WAR) on this, but if we snatch up 50% of all the guys out there in the DR right now, it may not make us that much better, but it will make it a lot harder for TB to be a thorn in our side.
Ignoring the ineptitude of the Orioles, I think teams like Pit, Oak, and KC should have cause for concern that the larger market teams will start muscling them out of the international pool. Those teams can afford the extra risk by dramatically increasing spending there.
So, anyone selling a Matusz bobblehead?
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
they moved
thousands of them back into the warehouse last night. I’m thinking they will show up in the O’s stores sometime soon.
The person who introduced Andrew to baseball and the O's
Um...Tampa Bay
Buck needs to shove it. Yeah there is disparity in scouting and I get the big teams spend more but the orioles can’t even put together a competitive farm system to match a team like Tampa Bay.
Damnit - Luxury taxes do not work
That is bull, the big market teams don’t care about it and it barely does anything to even the playing field. If the Yankees overspend the cap by 20 Million does every other team get 20 million? no they don’t. It gets diluted and the Yankees still have the major advantage.
The only way to solve the problem is to put in a hard cap.
There is no problem
What “problem” are we trying to solve here?
There are only two teams who regularly outspend the league by a significant degree, and of those two only the Yankees disregard the luxury tax utterly. But more to the point, who cares? Teams ranging from the top to the bottom in league payroll are regularly competitive, more teams than in any other sport make the playoffs, and blah blah blah because this is all something that has been discussed to death. The playing field is pretty goddamn even already, and once baseball finally gets it together and moves Oakland and Tampa will be in great shape.
To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa
"The playing field is pretty goddamn even already"
hahaha ok. Small market are at a significant disadvantage. Yes, tons of teams make it to the playoffs, but we all know which ones make it more often than not and which ones make it once every blue moon.
@sibsInExile
This shit cracks me up
Yeah, being a big market team helps you make the playoffs regularly. That’s why Mets fans, Cubs fans and Astros fans are so goddamn happy all the time.
To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa
You look at the top five teams with world series wins
and look at the bottom half and tell me the big markets teams that won and the small market teams that won.
Regardless I’m not saying thats the complete reason they win. But it helps quite a bit when you have A LOT of money.
@sibsInExile
Sure, money helps!
It should help! The most popular teams should be the most successful teams. And to a significant degree, they are – teams who manage to succeed regularly see their profits rise and their payrolls rise with them. This is how teams like the Phillies, Cardinals and Twins have become able to sign some of the most expensive deals in sports.
But that’s the point – having money isn’t the same thing as being a large market team. The Dodgers and Cubs are as broke as any club in baseball save the Rays and A’s. Houston is slashing payroll. Meanwhile, as for the teams who have won, I can’t help but observe that the Florida Marlins have won as many World Series as the Red Sox have in the past hundred years.
To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa
Exactly
they ignore the luxury tax. And we have teams that spend almost no money because they don’t have to. The new football cap forces teams to spend money and also prevents teams from overspending. Just because a small market team here and there make the playoffs doesn’t mean that the better system would be to have everyone spending in the same range.
It will keep teams like the orioles from claiming that it is a spending discrepancy and ignoring that it is the organizational problems that need to be fixed. Look at the rays, they have one of the best organizations and every 3 years they have to blow up their team and trade their cornerstone players to stay in contention. There will be no icons like Ripkin in tampa bay ever because they can’t afford to keep good players for more than a season or two.
Can't afford to keep good players for more than a season or two?
Aren’t the Rays the team that signed Carl Crawford and Evan Longoria to long term deals that covered the prime of their careers?
To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa
I'm not sure a hard cap is good idea,
The Yankees and the Red Sox will just use their financial advantage in different ways, which I think would be more destructive to MLB than the current system. The Yankees et al are continually paying for diminishing returns thanks to the service time issues, which essentially serve to level the playing ground.
My concern of a hard cap would be that the Yankees and Red Sox would essentially completely fuck the draft and the international market up for everyone. Who are the big spenders in the draft? The Pirates and the Orioles (and a few other teams too, including the Red Sox). If the Yankees really wanted to mess that up, I’m sure they could.
I just the primary reasons for the Orioles are Angelos and a massively incompetent outdated front office. I mean, the Orioles finally have spring training facilities that are on par with the rest of the major leagues. Expecting an advanced scouting department is a bit much to ask…
If you look at those UZR ratings or whatever
yeah, not touching this topic.
The Andy MacPhail plan: "Grow nothing. Buy the pen," (Wieters Weiner 2011).
If the Os need to devote all their attention to developing players
Then do it. Instead, this off-season, management will follow the time tested formula of signing 2 old players, 2 over-priced relievers, and puffing LJ Hoes, Oliver Drake and a few others as the wave of the future. I would be happy right now, despite the terrible major league team, if the farm system was loaded with prospects. The Os are in the bottom 3-4 teams in terms of the number of scouts on the payroll.
question: how the fuck does Mark Reynolds generate so much power? does he just have a ridiculously strong core or what?
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