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Blue Jays 7, Orioles 2: Not quite enough FUHR

Memo that Orioles hitters did not read: This man throws a lot of balls; do not swing at them.

Stop me if you've heard this one before: the Orioles were mystified by a lefty starter, there were defensive miscues leading to a pair of unearned runs, a couple of rallies were snuffed out by GIDPs, and were it not for a couple of meaningless FUHRs (Eff You Home Runs), the game would have been a shutout. Yeah, I thought it sounded familiar, too.

I mean, it's not like we expect any other outcome, although it would be nice if there were a bit less failure. The defensive misplays du jour were thanks largely to Josh Bell at third base, who had one error and another ball that ended up getting by him that probably shouldn't have. We've said it before and it will be said again: it's tough to say if you can quantify the effect of the defense of this team on the starting pitchers, both in terms of direct influences on outcomes of certain plays in specific games, and especially in terms of mindset. Maybe Alfredo Simon just turned into a pumpkin.

Ricky Romero was dealing today, although the O's were not helping their own cause by hacking feebly at pitcher's pitches, making soft contact easily fielded by Blue Jays fielders. On the whole, guys on this team just don't take the balls that are out of the strike zone. In a particularly frustrating sequence in the 4th inning, Robert Andino led off with a double and Nick Markakis was hit by a pitch, so there were runners on 1st and 2nd and nobody out. On a 1-1 pitch, the Orioles put on a double steal, and Jones fouled off a ball out of the strike zone. He finished the AB with a GIDP, hamstringing a potential rally, which Vladimir Guerrero killed off by swinging at the first pitch and lining a ball right to Jays CF Colby Rasmus.

Romero threw 94 pitches over 8 innings of work, striking out five O's batters. Two solo home runs by Mark Reynolds are all that stands between this game being a complete disaster as opposed to merely another in a string of sad, disheartening losses. Special credit to the second Reynolds HR, which landed in the first row of the club level. The estimated distance was 450 feet, which Gary Thorne on the MASN telecast said is tied for the 6th-longest home run in the history of Camden Yards.

After that second Reynolds homer, MASN also informed us that the Orioles have the highest percentage of runs scoring via HR in MLB - a total of 43% of their runs coming on home runs. The long ball is not a problem for the team and it never has been. Getting guys on base for the long balls is the problem. Of course, when you are batting your best home run hitter between 5th and 8th, behind crappy hitters like Guerrero (0-4 with a total of 8 pitches seen, and the game-ending GIDP), well...

Star-divide

Here's a stat for you. The Jays 6-9 hitters racked up 8 of the 13 hits the team recorded today. Orioles 6-9 hitters managed a total of one base hit - and that was a double by Blake Davis, who didn't even start the game. Cesar Izturis was the original 2nd baseman and 9th-place hitter, though he had to leave early due to a groin injury.

Simon pitched 5.2 innings, giving up ten hits - including five doubles and a home run - and six runs (four earned), striking out three. That kicked his ERA back up to 4.08, so the Orioles once again have no starter with a sub-4.00 ERA. Brad Bergesen pitched three innings of relief, giving up one run on three hits and racking up four strikeouts. Not a bad relief outing by Bergy, who did all we could have hoped for, chewing up some innings and not giving up too much damage. If we only had a lineup full of competent major league hitters, it might have meant something on this day.

Romero was finally out of the game for the 9th inning, but the O's 2-3-4 hitters didn't manage much more. Markakis led off with a solid single, then Jones struck out on some garbage and Guerrero came in with the GIDP to put the game out of its misery.

That's it for the Blue Jays for now. Chicago comes into town tomorrow for a four-game series. Jeremy Guthrie goes up against John Danks for the opener. After that, God only knows, because I sure don't.

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Mark Reynolds can play for my team anyway.

Other than that, a very dreary game. But what can you expect with the 6-9 hitters we ran out there today?

by Bad Horse on Aug 7, 2011 4:49 PM EDT reply actions  

We’ve said it before and it will be said again: it’s tough to say if you can quantify the effect of the defense of this team on the starting pitchers, both in terms of direct influences on outcomes of certain plays in specific games, and especially in terms of mindset.

You can look at the difference between xFIP and ERA to quantify the effect of defense on the rotation, although that won’t measure any psychological tolls.

The Andy MacPhail plan: "Grow nothing. Buy the pen," (Wieters Weiner 2011).

by birdman on Aug 7, 2011 5:28 PM EDT reply actions  

xFIP doesn't really tell the full story either

There’s no way to measure the impact of the additional pitches thrown, often in higher pressure/leverage situations, the fact that our pitchers have to face the best opposing hitters more often, have more of their pitches seen, etc. Is there?

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Aug 7, 2011 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

How many stats account for malaise?

Our SP have got to be thinking “didn’t I just sit down? These fuckers don’t help at all.” I wonder how much the hitting sucking is affecting the mentality of the pitching, and vice versa? Or is it a circular chicken/egg thing?

"Human beings make life so interesting. Do you know, that in a universe so full of wonders, they have managed to invent boredom?" ~ Death

by NSOsFan on Aug 7, 2011 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha

Especially when it’s hot the O’s painfully short offensive innings are certainly not helping the pitchers.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Aug 7, 2011 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh yeah, i agree

there’s no perfect method. comparing xFIP to ERA is the best way, but it carries flaws as you point out.

The Andy MacPhail plan: "Grow nothing. Buy the pen," (Wieters Weiner 2011).

by birdman on Aug 7, 2011 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah

Today it was sort of obvious that those first two runs were a direct result of the error, but who knows what kind of outing he has if Bell gets the double play or even a single out on that ball.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Aug 7, 2011 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

What is changes, I would think, is pitch selection

There’s no way our guys feel comfortable pitching to contact. Every pitch has to be perfect, because if it’s hit hard, chances are the fielder’s gonna fuck it up. Which leads our pitchers to pitching even worse as they miss and get called for a ball. Bad defense just leads to a vicious cycle of suck…

"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King

by duck on Aug 7, 2011 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Easy Fix

Sign Prince Fielder, get some competent relief pitching, rid ourselves of andino…watch the wins pile up next year

In the summertime here two things are certain; the weather is hot and the orioles are below .500

by Twisted Wrister on Aug 7, 2011 6:18 PM EDT reply actions  

When we set out to acquire competent relief pitching, what we get is anything but.

"That ball is gone. We'll pause ten seconds to commit suicide ... I mean, for a station identification." - Joe Angel, 6/17/11

by Eat More Esskay on Aug 7, 2011 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rid ourselves of Andino? Huh?

He’s been one of the few guys playing pretty well.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Aug 7, 2011 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

He is a slightly below average 2nd baseman..not an everyday answer

In the summertime here two things are certain; the weather is hot and the orioles are below .500

by Twisted Wrister on Aug 7, 2011 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

SSS, but...

he has about the highest OBP on the team.

"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King

by duck on Aug 7, 2011 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Right...

but he’s far from the first player to go. Brian Roberts and his brick of a contract are first.

‘Contrairiwise,’ continued Tweedledee, ‘if it was so, it might
be; and if it were so, it would be: but as it isn’t, it ain’t. That’s
logic.’ — Through the Looking Glass, Lewis Carroll

by TerroristFistJab on Aug 7, 2011 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's far from one of the primary problems.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Aug 7, 2011 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

I took a quick look at the free agent class for 2012 RP

It’s not very pretty for the most part.

"Human beings make life so interesting. Do you know, that in a universe so full of wonders, they have managed to invent boredom?" ~ Death

by NSOsFan on Aug 7, 2011 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah... The rotation is fine, Vlad is a good (not great) DH, our defense at 3rd is acceptable,

we’re patient at the plate, and we have a backup C who knows how to call a good game.
Easy fix. Our REAL problem is that Andino loser.

/dripping heavy sarcasm

"Baseball is an island of activity in a sea of statistics." - Anon

by J(O's)elskIL on Aug 8, 2011 1:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

I was at today's game

Pretty dull, but those home runs by Reynolds were just monsters. I was hoping he’d get a chance at a third but stupid Vlad double played.

Giraffes have absurdly strong necks.

by Stacey on Aug 7, 2011 6:27 PM EDT reply actions  

corrected
I was hoping he’d get a chance at a third but stupid Vlad double played Buck doesn’t know how to set up a lineup and has an auto-out batting in front of Reynolds..

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Aug 7, 2011 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd prefer the auto-out to the GIDP!

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Aug 7, 2011 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's an auto-out with GIDP potential.

really a win-win if you think about it.

Just because you know how to read, doesn't mean you'll like the book.

by arlingtonOsFan on Aug 7, 2011 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Best part of Reynolds' day?

No soul-killing strikeouts!

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Aug 7, 2011 6:40 PM EDT reply actions  

/dciswe'd

‘Contrairiwise,’ continued Tweedledee, ‘if it was so, it might
be; and if it were so, it would be: but as it isn’t, it ain’t. That’s
logic.’ — Through the Looking Glass, Lewis Carroll

by TerroristFistJab on Aug 7, 2011 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

4+ hours in a game where only 3 runs have been scored?

Only a MFY PHN game…

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Aug 8, 2011 12:00 AM EDT reply actions  

Around the minors 8-7:

Norfolk lost to Rochester 8-0. Ryan Adams went 2-4 with doubles. Jake Fox went 0-4. Brandon Snyder went 0-3. Cole McCurry went 2 innings, striking out 1 and allowing 2 hits.

Bowie beat New Hampshire 5-3. Xavier Avery went 0-4 with 4 strikeouts. LJ Hoes went 1-3 with a walk and stolen base. Joe Mahoney went 1-3 with a strikeout. Caleb Joseph went 1-4 with a double. Ronnie Welty went 0-2 with a K and a SB. Greg Miclat went 2-3 with a walk, a K and 4 stolen bases.

Frederick lost to Winston Salem 8-0. Jonathan Schoop went 2-4. Manny Machado went 0-3 and was removed for a pinch hitter. Aaron Baker went 0-4. Kipp Schutz went 2-3 with a double and an error.

Delmarva lost to Kannapolis 8-3. Ty Kelly went 2-4 with a walk. Jarret Martin got roughed up today, giving up six earned on 5 hits (1 homer) and 3 walks in 4 innings while striking out 4 and having a GB/FB of 7/2.

The Ironbirds beat Hudson Valley 4-1. Matt Hobgood went 4 innings, giving up 1 run, striking out 2, walking 2 and giving up 3 hits with a GB/FB of 3/4 (!). Ryan Berry went 2 innings, striking out 2, walking 1 and giving up 1 hit with a GB/FB of 3/1. Glynn Davis went 1-3 with a walk. Joe Velleggia and Wynston Sawyer each went 0-3 with a K. Connor Narron went 0-2 with a walk. In case you were wondering, Narron leads in the NY Penn League in walks, with 37 on the season. He has a six walk lead on Jake Lowery.

The GCL and DSL Orioles were off today.

If you look at those UZR ratings or whatever

by dfa on Aug 8, 2011 2:11 AM EDT reply actions  

you guys should make this a morning front page post

instead of hiding it in the comments

Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the Orioles' season?

by Andrew_G on Aug 8, 2011 9:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

True that

This is always the first thing I look at on CC in the morning.

by alistairlp on Aug 8, 2011 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

yup

The Andy MacPhail plan: "Grow nothing. Buy the pen," (Wieters Weiner 2011).

by birdman on Aug 8, 2011 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

totally agree with that

I’ve been meaning to mention it.

Giraffes have absurdly strong necks.

by Stacey on Aug 8, 2011 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

That would be great.

"Baseball is an island of activity in a sea of statistics." - Anon

by J(O's)elskIL on Aug 8, 2011 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

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