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Monday Bird Droppings

BALTIMORE, MD - AUGUST 07:  Mark Reynolds #12 the Baltimore Orioles celebrates with Nolan Reimold #14 after  hitting a home run in the seventh inning against the Toronto Blue Jays at Oriole Park at Camden Yards on August 7, 2011 in Baltimore, Maryland.  (Photo by Greg Fiume/Getty Images)

Hardy and Davis could play Monday, Reyes likely for Tuesday, Reynolds at first, lineups - baltimoresun.com

"Jo-Jo Reyes threw a bullpen session today and the anticipation is that he'll make Tuesday's start in place of the injured Zach Britton."

Orioles Insider: News, notes and opinions - baltimoresun.com

"Here’s a statistic that I’m guessing you wouldn’t have even believed if it was May never mind August: The team’s current leader in on-base percentage among regulars (or at least semi-regulars) is infielder Robert Andino who is getting on at a .343 clip. This is no disrespect at all to Andino, who is one of only a precious few Orioles this season who has actually exceeded expectations. It is, however, quite alarming that a player who began the season as the team’s utility infielder leads in this category."

IronBirds top Hudson Valley 4-1 as Hobgood puts together first quality start of the season - baltimoresun.com

A recap of the IronBirds game from a man named Dewey.

Life After Andy MacPhail: Newcomers Outside of the Organization - Camden Depot

"Another option that would likely work well with Buck would be to hire a young up-and-coming GM prospect who can take care of the day-to-day front office tasks while Buck gives broad organizational directives from the dugout.  This certainly could be done and some argue it is exactly what is being done in St. Louis for better or worse.  St. Louis has won a World Series, but a great deal of luck and Albert Pujols helped that occur.  Anyway, here is a list of GM prospects outside of the organization." 

Dear Pirates fans: We feel your pain | Roar From 34
"A winning record? The wild card? Winning the division? Surely you've dared to daydream against even your strongest self-protective instincts."

The Worst Team In Baseball Meets The Worst Team In Blue
Clipped by Duck! Just like old times. 

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so, what did i miss?

i’ve been virtually internet and mobile phone free for a week. jo-jo reyes, huh?

"the secret to a happy ending is knowing when to roll the credits"

by j.q. higgins on Aug 8, 2011 8:59 AM EDT reply actions  

chris tillman pitched a great game on Saturday. otherwise, nothing.

The Andy MacPhail plan: "Grow nothing. Buy the pen," (Wieters Weiner 2011).

by birdman on Aug 8, 2011 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

i was just reading that...

man, if he could start putting it togther…man, would that be sweet.

looks like matusz had a good outing at norfolk, too?

"the secret to a happy ending is knowing when to roll the credits"

by j.q. higgins on Aug 8, 2011 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

here’s tillman’s pitchfx data from Saturday.

Fastball speed is up, but I’m more interested in his breaking stuff. He still couldn’t locate his curveball worth a damn (11 CBs, only 2 were strikes). His other breaking stuff looked better. 22 sliders/cutters, 15 of them for strikes.

The Andy MacPhail plan: "Grow nothing. Buy the pen," (Wieters Weiner 2011).

by birdman on Aug 8, 2011 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

thanks for posting this

I was wondering whether he had a great day or whether the other team had a bad day.

by Benhem612 on Aug 8, 2011 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

His change was really good!

Also, I’m thinking that the cutter is a mis-classification of his 4 seamer. I don’t remember him ever throwing it before and I’m too tired to check. Somebody think for me!!

"Baseball is an island of activity in a sea of statistics." - Anon

by J(O's)elskIL on Aug 8, 2011 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

don't rely on the pitch f/x classifications at all

Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the Orioles' season?

by Andrew_G on Aug 8, 2011 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Are the H/V movement mesurements reliable?

"Baseball is an island of activity in a sea of statistics." - Anon

by J(O's)elskIL on Aug 8, 2011 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

well I should say 98% of the time they're fine

Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the Orioles' season?

by Andrew_G on Aug 8, 2011 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

They've done studies, you know.

60% of the time, it works every time.

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Aug 8, 2011 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

It certainly might be a mis-classification, but of his 4-seamer?

That’s the fastest fb.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Aug 8, 2011 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

But look how close the avg. velocity is and the break too.

It looks like he just got some extra H movement on it, maybe threw a cutter by accident.

"Baseball is an island of activity in a sea of statistics." - Anon

by J(O's)elskIL on Aug 9, 2011 12:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Or he just throws a real shitty cutter

which it sure looks like

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Aug 9, 2011 1:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think the weather

might have affected his ability to spot breaking pitches. The first couple curves he tried to throw ended up 2 feet over the batter’s head because (I assume) the ball was wet.

Youth may come and go, but immaturity can last a lifetime.

by Zeke McGeek on Aug 8, 2011 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

that sounds right. those cutters were probably fastballs with a little extra break on them. in that case, he was mostly a fastball/change up pitcher. he’s not going to survive as a two pitch pitcher.

The Andy MacPhail plan: "Grow nothing. Buy the pen," (Wieters Weiner 2011).

by birdman on Aug 8, 2011 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

His out pitch used to be his curve.

It looked sharp, but he couldn’t locate worth a damn.

"Baseball is an island of activity in a sea of statistics." - Anon

by J(O's)elskIL on Aug 8, 2011 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

the good news is the Matusz appeared to pitch a good game

the bad news is, it was against the Rochester Red Wings, who are pretty awful this year. But, he did hold Justin Morneau (on rehab) to a 1-4 night (a soft single).

Youth may come and go, but immaturity can last a lifetime.

by Zeke McGeek on Aug 8, 2011 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Turned on the game yesterday...

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Aug 8, 2011 8:59 AM EDT reply actions  

Oh boy...

We had no lucky men make the grade.

"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King

by duck on Aug 8, 2011 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

Whoops wrong button

Turned on the game yesterday
-Saw that we were getting pwned by Romero yet again.
-Saw Mark Reynolds step to the plate.
-Saw Mark Reynolds absolutely murder a ball, depositing it in the LF club level (first time I’ve ever seen that)
-Smiled and changed the channel.

That’s about the best an O’s fan can ask for at the moment.

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Aug 8, 2011 9:00 AM EDT reply actions  

Just watched video of the Reynolds HR

And holy moonshot batman.

Say no to Prince Fielder in 2012.

by Knubles and Bits on Aug 8, 2011 10:32 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Awesome

Our 2009 top pick is, after 2 years, figuring out short-season low-A.

That was the Monday AM pick-me-up news I needed.

Like a bad, suave dude. You know what I'm sayin'. COOL. SC 7/24/08

by 33 on Aug 8, 2011 9:20 AM EDT reply actions  

This is more like it

Reed it, morans

Like a bad, suave dude. You know what I'm sayin'. COOL. SC 7/24/08

by 33 on Aug 8, 2011 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

This time last year

Today last year – We beat the Indians 14 to 8 and Felix Pie, Wieters, Cory Patterson, and Luke Scott all hit homeruns. Arietta pitched a gem of a game giving up 6 runs in 6 innings and Gabino finished the 9th by giving up 2 runs.

We are getting into a tough time when compared to last year. Our current record of 44-67 is still 5 games up on our 39-74 record from last year. As we move into a huge win streak last year this year’s squad is on shaky ground.

So far for the month of August – The 2010 O’s are sitting at 5-1 and the 2011 O’s are sitting at 2-4.

by Benhem612 on Aug 8, 2011 9:20 AM EDT reply actions  

Wishful thinking

From the first Baltimore Sun post, one of the commenters:
“Why can’t this club put together a package with Guthrie in it, for a kid like Brett Lawrie? Some teams need pitching and will overpay in players.”

If you can find a team willing to give up one of their top 3 prospects for a 3rd or 4th starter in arbitration and a few extra scraps, you sir, should be a great GM.

by MDBlueJayfan on Aug 8, 2011 9:24 AM EDT reply actions  

Mcphail just doesn't want it bad enough

he should just go out and put that package together. He is like that loser guthrie he needs to will this trade into existence. It’s time mcphail became a winner.

by Benhem612 on Aug 8, 2011 9:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't know why we'd settle on Lawrie,

when we can get Pujols for him.

If you look at those UZR ratings or whatever

by dfa on Aug 8, 2011 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

pujols that washed up bum

Buck doesnt want him because he wouldn’t agree to bad behind vlad in the lineup. Everyone knows what pujols would do so he really lacks in the unconventionality department.

by Benhem612 on Aug 8, 2011 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

You just put the thought of us resigning Vlad for next year into my head

I just threw up in my mouth a little.

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Aug 8, 2011 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey whoa

even Roch is on the move Vlad down train. Welcome aboard, partner!

Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the Orioles' season?

by Andrew_G on Aug 8, 2011 9:45 AM EDT reply actions  

Choo Choo

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Aug 8, 2011 9:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

To be fair to Roch, he's been on board that for at least a month.

"That ball is gone. We'll pause ten seconds to commit suicide ... I mean, for a station identification." - Joe Angel, 6/17/11

by Eat More Esskay on Aug 8, 2011 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

well I'd like to extend the opportunity

to jump on the “Come on already and friggin’ cut Vlad already” train.

Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the Orioles' season?

by Andrew_G on Aug 8, 2011 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yanks benched Posada

Granted they’ve got something to play for still this year, but why are we the only ones doing dumb things???

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Aug 8, 2011 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

not dumb

unconventional. Does someone need to sit through the Oriole re-education clinic again??

Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the Orioles' season?

by Andrew_G on Aug 8, 2011 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

"Unconventional" is Tim Lincecum's delivery

“Dumb” is playing Vlad. Something that is clearly detrimental to the team and serves no purpose whatsoever, that a multi-million dollar organization should know better than to do.

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Aug 8, 2011 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

What's to say?

I am tired of ranting. Yesterday’s game is not worth discussing. Is it football season yet?

by BaltoBen on Aug 8, 2011 9:48 AM EDT reply actions  

I am so ready for football season

even if it means I have to sell my soul to comcast once more. I have yet to find a viable sports streaming site that works with smart tvs and is cost efficient.

by Benhem612 on Aug 8, 2011 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

direct tv

has free nfl sunday ticket now.

"Grow nothing, buy the 'Pen" (Wieters Weiners)

by IggesRule13 on Aug 8, 2011 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

KINDA free....

have to be a new customer signing up for 2 years, and you get charged for Year 2.

"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King

by duck on Aug 8, 2011 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

did not know the details

of course there’s a catch…

"Grow nothing, buy the 'Pen" (Wieters Weiners)

by IggesRule13 on Aug 8, 2011 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

YEAH! FOOTBALL! COME ON FOOTBALL!

Oh, wait. I’m a Redskins fan. Football season is just like baseball season for me, except with only one game a week to sigh at.

by Holymittens on Aug 8, 2011 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

as a Buffalo Bills fan

I’m not really expecting football to cure my depression either

Youth may come and go, but immaturity can last a lifetime.

by Zeke McGeek on Aug 8, 2011 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

LET'S GOOOO BUFFALO!!!

They’re my best friend’s team and my Ravens bye-week/Ravens not playing on Sunday team.

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Aug 8, 2011 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

I guarantee

that we’re not drawing 25,000 people to Bills practice here, with free admission and free parking

Youth may come and go, but immaturity can last a lifetime.

by Zeke McGeek on Aug 8, 2011 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

really?

I may have to stop by on my way home from work……

Youth may come and go, but immaturity can last a lifetime.

by Zeke McGeek on Aug 8, 2011 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't want to hurt his feelings

besides, I’m not even sure who the flippin’ back-up QB is this year

“Hey, you, whatever your name is. Yeah, YOU. I don’t know who you are, or anything about you, but you must suck if you’re only the back-up for this lousy team!” Doesn’t have a lot of punch to it.

Generally, I ignore football until after the World Series. My little brain can’t handle more than one major sport at a time.

Youth may come and go, but immaturity can last a lifetime.

by Zeke McGeek on Aug 8, 2011 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

buffalol

Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the Orioles' season?

by Andrew_G on Aug 8, 2011 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

soooo...

how bout them O’s?

carolina in my mind...

by Gamecock24 on Aug 8, 2011 10:46 AM EDT reply actions  

See liquor bottle to the right

"Human beings make life so interesting. Do you know, that in a universe so full of wonders, they have managed to invent boredom?" ~ Death

by NSOsFan on Aug 8, 2011 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

#thingsdestroyingmysanity

Mother, did it need to be so high.

by salvotion on Aug 8, 2011 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just made a reservation

At the days inn for thursday. Took a half day Thursday and off on Friday. That means I can get absolutely fucking demolished Thursday afternoon before, during, and after the game and then carry it right in to the weekend. Anyone else going?

Say no to Prince Fielder in 2012.

by Knubles and Bits on Aug 8, 2011 11:35 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Might be going Thursday of Friday night

"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King

by duck on Aug 8, 2011 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is that duck Consecutive Typo Streak still going or did you lose it over the weekend?

\one to talk

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Aug 8, 2011 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Apparently it's continuing

"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King

by duck on Aug 8, 2011 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

If you decide on Thursday

Then let me know. We’ll grab a beer. I’ll be sure not to go any place too fancy.

Say no to Prince Fielder in 2012.

by Knubles and Bits on Aug 8, 2011 1:21 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

The alarming thing

is not who is leading the team with an .343 OPS, it is that a .343 OPS leads can possibly lead a team. I’m used to thinking of .340 as league average. ESPN has the current league average as down to .320.

Of our other starting guys, only Nick is at that rule of thumb number of .340 and only Nick, AJ and Reynolds are above that deflated league average.

What does it matter who is at the top of a list where almost everyone is below average?

Like a bad, suave dude. You know what I'm sayin'. COOL. SC 7/24/08

by 33 on Aug 8, 2011 11:40 AM EDT reply actions  

Duh

Yep. I’ve mentioned I’m a moran.

Like a bad, suave dude. You know what I'm sayin'. COOL. SC 7/24/08

by 33 on Aug 8, 2011 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Although

For OPS, the league is .721 and we’ve only got 4 guys over that too. Swap Hardy for Andino, but the rest are the same guys.

I’ve got it! We’ll play teams 4 on 4. Right side of the field is an out.

Like a bad, suave dude. You know what I'm sayin'. COOL. SC 7/24/08

by 33 on Aug 8, 2011 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

But our LF defense is horrible...

So ughhh… can we make the left side of the field an out. Unless it’s an infield hit, then the right side is out.

by Wieters Wieners on Aug 8, 2011 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Gotta play Reynolds on one side or the other

I don’t think you can make that better.

Like a bad, suave dude. You know what I'm sayin'. COOL. SC 7/24/08

by 33 on Aug 8, 2011 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well, having 4 of 9 guys above average is about average...

Our offense is pretty middle-of-the-pack. Not great by any means, but not terrible, either. While we have certain places we can really upgrade there, it’s the pitching that’s the real problem.

by Bad Horse on Aug 8, 2011 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Who's down wit' OBP (yeah you know me)

"That ball is gone. We'll pause ten seconds to commit suicide ... I mean, for a station identification." - Joe Angel, 6/17/11

by Eat More Esskay on Aug 8, 2011 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

you want the really depressing thing about that

this season, league average OBP is .320. Last season it was .325, the year before .333. Hitting’s been declining for a while now, which makes the O’s offense look progressively better (relatively speaking).

Except for the Red Sox: .353 this season, .339 last, .352 before that, .358 in ’08

And the Yankees: .344, .350, .362, .342 over that same timespan.

Baseball-wide OBP is down…but not nearly so much in the AL East. So the Orioles are just as freaking horrible as ever.

Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the Orioles' season?

by Andrew_G on Aug 8, 2011 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

Of course, the other really depressing thing is that pitching is on the upswing, everywhere except here.

"That ball is gone. We'll pause ten seconds to commit suicide ... I mean, for a station identification." - Joe Angel, 6/17/11

by Eat More Esskay on Aug 8, 2011 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm a lonesome dawg, Mother

Allen Ginsburg, “Auto-Poesy to Nebraska”

Like a bad, suave dude. You know what I'm sayin'. COOL. SC 7/24/08

by 33 on Aug 8, 2011 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

that, too

Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the Orioles' season?

by Andrew_G on Aug 8, 2011 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

This must be all part of AM’s master plan. You see, AM took Moneyball to heart. He understands that, in order to put together a winning team without all the money in the world, you need to identify market inefficiencies and exploit them. In today’s market, defense and pitching are currently the hot new things. Buying good pitching and defense will therefore come at a premium. AM is just skillfully gaming the market by loading up on terrible pitchers and awful defenders, the undervalued assets. He’s just a little stuck with step 2 of the tired equation: Step 1: acquire bad pitching and bad defense; Step 2: ???; Step 3: WINNING.

Mother, did it need to be so high.

by salvotion on Aug 8, 2011 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

They are the undervalued assets, which he compensates for by overpaying them.

"That ball is gone. We'll pause ten seconds to commit suicide ... I mean, for a station identification." - Joe Angel, 6/17/11

by Eat More Esskay on Aug 8, 2011 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Saw the first trailer for the movie

Although I had to look up why Paul DePodesta character’s name was changed

"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King

by duck on Aug 8, 2011 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

But on a brighter note

The Ravens first game is Thursday!!!!!

by Wieters Wieners on Aug 8, 2011 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

You mean the one that season ticket holders are forced to pay for but it doesn't count in the standings?

"That ball is gone. We'll pause ten seconds to commit suicide ... I mean, for a station identification." - Joe Angel, 6/17/11

by Eat More Esskay on Aug 8, 2011 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

I sure hope you're getting a lockout refund.

"That ball is gone. We'll pause ten seconds to commit suicide ... I mean, for a station identification." - Joe Angel, 6/17/11

by Eat More Esskay on Aug 8, 2011 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah

If it locks out the money is being kept in an interest-bearing account that I can either cash out or just keep in there and rollover till whenever.

by Wieters Wieners on Aug 8, 2011 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

By the way

There were more people at the Ravens PRACTICE Saturday then attended the Orioles GAME! Is that depressing?

by Wieters Wieners on Aug 8, 2011 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I read that 25k showed up for the Ravens.

It’s depressing, but not surprising. The news itself isn’t depressing, it’s just depressing because it’s another sign that the O’s are a bad baseball team. If the O’s were in first place and a Ravens practice was out-drawing an Orioles game, that would be horrible. But it’s not like that’s the case. The Ravens have been the good team in Baltimore for the last decade, so they are what interests people.

"That ball is gone. We'll pause ten seconds to commit suicide ... I mean, for a station identification." - Joe Angel, 6/17/11

by Eat More Esskay on Aug 8, 2011 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think its more accurate to say the Orioles underdrew the Ravens

than the Ravens outdrew the Orioles

Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the Orioles' season?

by Andrew_G on Aug 8, 2011 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't care how you cut it...

Drawing 25,000 people to watch you practice ain’t shabby. To me, that’s more impressive.

by Wieters Wieners on Aug 8, 2011 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

But we in here talkin' about PRACTICE.

Not a game, Not a game, Not a game. We talkin’ ’bout practice. How the hell can I make my teammates better by practice?

"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King

by duck on Aug 8, 2011 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

well, when you're one of the premier teams in the league, you get that kind of fan turnout

you don’t get it because you signed a former MVP caliber player, you don’t get it because there’s some promise that things are on the upswing, you get it by being the best and through that earning the fans’ trust that you know how to continue being the best. And it’s more than fair to say the Ravens earned that. Just like it’s more than fair to say that the Orioles lost that very same thing.

Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the Orioles' season?

by Andrew_G on Aug 8, 2011 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think we should shorten the Orioles' season to 16 games

that’d help attendance for sure, and we’d never finish the season more than 16 games under .500!

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Aug 8, 2011 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I really don't think that would help attendance, though

Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the Orioles' season?

by Andrew_G on Aug 8, 2011 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

how about 16 games...

against mfy y phn?

"the secret to a happy ending is knowing when to roll the credits"

by j.q. higgins on Aug 8, 2011 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ooh, I've got it:

We play the Yankees and Red Sox for 162 games per year, set a new attendance high, and guarantee ourselves the top draft pick.

"Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs." -- Earl Weaver

by Vuff on Aug 8, 2011 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh great

You wanna ruin my summers by making Baltimore a Strong Island/Quin-zee resort town???

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Aug 8, 2011 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

You could always peace out to Ocean City and hang out at Seacrets.

"That ball is gone. We'll pause ten seconds to commit suicide ... I mean, for a station identification." - Joe Angel, 6/17/11

by Eat More Esskay on Aug 8, 2011 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

checkin out whale tails?

"Human beings make life so interesting. Do you know, that in a universe so full of wonders, they have managed to invent boredom?" ~ Death

by NSOsFan on Aug 8, 2011 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

This just in...

The next season of Jersey Shore – Jersey Shore Baltimore. The lovable cast visits several Yankees home games at Camden Yards and is up to their usual antics.

by Benhem612 on Aug 8, 2011 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Some free-lance producer

has convinced some locals he’s shooting a Jersey Shore-type show in OC, and following them around as they get fall over drunk all summer.

Surprisingly, no network has yet picked it up.

"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King

by duck on Aug 8, 2011 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, not overall

but per game would go up for sure. At least until we fall out of contention after game 5 or 6.

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Aug 8, 2011 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

preseason football

still more exciting that watching the O’s

carolina in my mind...

by Gamecock24 on Aug 8, 2011 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

Looking better (relatively speaking)

To cheer me, I wanted to see that trend line where we got better relative to the sagging league. But nope, we were exactly average in 2006 and we’re actually falling a little faster.

2006 2007 2008 2009 2010 2011
AL 0.339 0.338 0.335 0.335 0.327 0.321
O’s 0.339 0.333 0.333 0.332 0.316 0.314

Like a bad, suave dude. You know what I'm sayin'. COOL. SC 7/24/08

by 33 on Aug 8, 2011 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Camden Depot
There are many who subscribe to the belief that Buck is an accomplished franchise builder as every team he has been fired from had appeared and/or won a World Series within five or so years after his termination.

I couldn’t quite tell if this was what Jon was advocating. I can’t imagine anyone who does a shitty job and then gets a promotion?!

Another option that would likely work well with Buck would be to hire a young up-and-coming GM prospect who can take care of the day-to-day front office tasks while Buck gives broad organizational directives from the dugout.

That sort of happened in Texas and Daniels fired Buck.

The Andy MacPhail plan: "Grow nothing. Buy the pen," (Wieters Weiner 2011).

by birdman on Aug 8, 2011 12:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Today's way cool Olympic sports video

Ladies and Gentlemen…. The Flying Squirrel.

"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King

by duck on Aug 8, 2011 1:22 PM EDT reply actions  

for the ravens fans out there

they are supposedly going to sign Ricky Williams to a 2 year contract

carolina in my mind...

by Gamecock24 on Aug 8, 2011 1:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Craziness

But I bet they got him dollar store cheap.

"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King

by duck on Aug 8, 2011 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

reportedly 2 year/$4 million

so not too bad for a back-up/short yardage RB. i like the move. now they just need to sign someone to back-up Flacco and i think we’ll be ok

carolina in my mind...

by Gamecock24 on Aug 8, 2011 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Poor Ray Rice

That’s another half dozen touchdowns vulture’d

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Aug 8, 2011 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

But how many hits does he not take thanks to Rickey?

I’m kinda happy Rickey landed here. I think he’s still got some gas in the tank, and the Ravens couldn’t care less about his hair or toning down his personality. Play ball, stay out of trouble, and that’s about it. I think it’s a good fit for both sides.

"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King

by duck on Aug 8, 2011 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd rather have gotten a good #2 receiver

They must really like Torrey Smith thus far in Training Camp.

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Aug 8, 2011 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

from the people i've talked to that went to the open practice on saturday

they’ve all said that Torrey Smith looked legit. however, they said our offensive line looked awful, especially on the right side. so there’s that.

carolina in my mind...

by Gamecock24 on Aug 8, 2011 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

You think Williams heard there's a good weed hookup in Baltimore?

"That ball is gone. We'll pause ten seconds to commit suicide ... I mean, for a station identification." - Joe Angel, 6/17/11

by Eat More Esskay on Aug 8, 2011 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

holy shit

only 255 ABs in 70 games, but Mike Napoli has an OPS+ 163, OPS over 1000, wOBA .426. Wow.

The Andy MacPhail plan: "Grow nothing. Buy the pen," (Wieters Weiner 2011).

by birdman on Aug 8, 2011 1:44 PM EDT reply actions  

That's my boy

Why can’t he ever get playing time anywhere?

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Aug 8, 2011 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

And he's still not a starter, afaik

They get him into most games one way or another, but that’s just nuts to sit on a guy like that even some of the games.

by zsiv on Aug 8, 2011 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

in looking over his game logs

he’s finally getting regular starts now. i think he had a DL stint in June. otherwise, he’s been getting a lot of playing time in July and August.

and yet, i bet mike scioscia still wants jeff mathis over napoli.

The Andy MacPhail plan: "Grow nothing. Buy the pen," (Wieters Weiner 2011).

by birdman on Aug 8, 2011 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Napoli has pissed off everyone in my fantasy league

he keeps getting picked up and dropped because he will come in for a game hit like a fox and then dissapear for 4 games because they don’t play him.

by Benhem612 on Aug 8, 2011 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've kept him all season

I honestly don’t care if he plays. Most other catchers are just going to drop your avg down anyway. I’d rather him come in every now and then and dominate and not add another 0-12 to my collective average every week.

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Aug 8, 2011 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

If he doesn't play*

I might keep him for next year too. It’ll be a game-time decision based on what I read about how the Rangers plan on using him.

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Aug 8, 2011 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah wietiers has been the one homer pick I allowed myself

and I admit that napoli prob would have served me better playing or not.

by Benhem612 on Aug 8, 2011 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

So I turn on the Rundown on MLB Network

and who do I see, but Amber! She’s going to be back on later to make fun of Jo-Jo Reyes with the host, if anyone feels like watching. It was a nice surprise

no, not Olney. But I hear good things.

by joe from onley on Aug 8, 2011 3:36 PM EDT reply actions  

yay amber

The Andy MacPhail plan: "Grow nothing. Buy the pen," (Wieters Weiner 2011).

by birdman on Aug 8, 2011 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

We really don't get to see Amber enough anymore.

#needsmoreamber

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Aug 8, 2011 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

As far as I'm concerned,

the only positive of Hunter calling games is Amber on O’s Xtra

no, not Olney. But I hear good things.

by joe from onley on Aug 8, 2011 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

what?

are you telling me you don’t enjoy the awkward segments on o’s extra where the demper learns the youngsters of bawlamer on how to focus easy?

"the secret to a happy ending is knowing when to roll the credits"

by j.q. higgins on Aug 8, 2011 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

How about when Rick and Amber were doing the pre-game

and someone….I want to say Paul Blair, but I’m not certain, stopped by. Amber was trying to have an actual interesting conversation with Blair but Rick wouldn’t shut up about how Blair needs just for men. It was so awful.

Giraffes have absurdly strong necks.

by Stacey on Aug 8, 2011 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh, but...

it could have been so much worse!

"the secret to a happy ending is knowing when to roll the credits"

by j.q. higgins on Aug 8, 2011 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

not that we know of, anyways.

"the secret to a happy ending is knowing when to roll the credits"

by j.q. higgins on Aug 8, 2011 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I could definitely deal with Amber and Jim on Xtra

but I might miss all of the sparring over the challenge! She was just on the Rundown again, I’m so glad we have her and not some douche with a denim-looking blazer and a random cowboy hat (Tracy Ringoldsby).

In other broadcasting combination news, is it just me or were Manfra and Dave Johnson strangely awesome?

no, not Olney. But I hear good things.

by joe from onley on Aug 8, 2011 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

just procured some tickets off of stubhub for the game tonight

what can i say, i’m a glutton for punishment

carolina in my mind...

by Gamecock24 on Aug 8, 2011 4:02 PM EDT reply actions  

BUOD will post tomorrow for those of you anxiously waiting for it.

I’m leaving for vacation tomorrow afternoon and have a ton of stuff to get out before that can happen.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Aug 8, 2011 4:05 PM EDT reply actions  

this is why you'll never get promoted to a koopa trooper

gotta get your priorities straightened out

carolina in my mind...

by Gamecock24 on Aug 8, 2011 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL

Hey….there were no pictures available from the game! Plus, I recapped just about everything that happened anyways.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Aug 8, 2011 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mama MAD

"Human beings make life so interesting. Do you know, that in a universe so full of wonders, they have managed to invent boredom?" ~ Death

by NSOsFan on Aug 8, 2011 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

you should have wrote an art review instead.

The Andy MacPhail plan: "Grow nothing. Buy the pen," (Wieters Weiner 2011).

by birdman on Aug 8, 2011 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

That was interesting at least

Giraffes have absurdly strong necks.

by Stacey on Aug 8, 2011 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

sure, i'll give it that.

The Andy MacPhail plan: "Grow nothing. Buy the pen," (Wieters Weiner 2011).

by birdman on Aug 8, 2011 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

It smells like ownage.

"That ball is gone. We'll pause ten seconds to commit suicide ... I mean, for a station identification." - Joe Angel, 6/17/11

by Eat More Esskay on Aug 8, 2011 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

For those who like Hope Solo

Strong Side/Weak Side

"Human beings make life so interesting. Do you know, that in a universe so full of wonders, they have managed to invent boredom?" ~ Death

by NSOsFan on Aug 8, 2011 4:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Tonight's lineup. Welcome back, JJ!

Orioles lineup tonight:

J.J. Hardy, SS
Nick Markakis, RF
Adam Jones, CF
Vladimir Guerrero, DH
Mark Reynolds, 1B
Nolan Reimold, LF
Matt Wieters, C
Robert Andino, 2B
Josh Bell, 3B
Jeremy Guthrie, SP

Giraffes have absurdly strong necks.

by Stacey on Aug 8, 2011 4:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Actually looks kind of like what it should look like

Minus one big slow old guy.

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Aug 8, 2011 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

i guess chris davis is still hungover.

The Andy MacPhail plan: "Grow nothing. Buy the pen," (Wieters Weiner 2011).

by birdman on Aug 8, 2011 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can't believe he's blaming this on sleeping on his shoulder funny

How the heck is he sleeping?

Giraffes have absurdly strong necks.

by Stacey on Aug 8, 2011 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

with bottles of Olde E and hookers of perplexing ethnicities.

The Andy MacPhail plan: "Grow nothing. Buy the pen," (Wieters Weiner 2011).

by birdman on Aug 8, 2011 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

He and Moldy must be hanging out

"Human beings make life so interesting. Do you know, that in a universe so full of wonders, they have managed to invent boredom?" ~ Death

by NSOsFan on Aug 8, 2011 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

i stole it from a bachelor's party invite i got last week.

sadly, i cannot attend the festivities.

The Andy MacPhail plan: "Grow nothing. Buy the pen," (Wieters Weiner 2011).

by birdman on Aug 8, 2011 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

murtaugh rule

i’m too old for this shit.

The Andy MacPhail plan: "Grow nothing. Buy the pen," (Wieters Weiner 2011).

by birdman on Aug 8, 2011 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

And....that's a rec

"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King

by duck on Aug 8, 2011 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

But Murtaugh still did it!

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Aug 8, 2011 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh, yes...

he gotcha there, birdman!

"the secret to a happy ending is knowing when to roll the credits"

by j.q. higgins on Aug 8, 2011 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

ok, if you insist, bring on the hookers of perplexing ethnicities.

The Andy MacPhail plan: "Grow nothing. Buy the pen," (Wieters Weiner 2011).

by birdman on Aug 8, 2011 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

On the other hand, if you're too old, it's time to start crossing shit off the bucket list for real.

"That ball is gone. We'll pause ten seconds to commit suicide ... I mean, for a station identification." - Joe Angel, 6/17/11

by Eat More Esskay on Aug 8, 2011 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nah, that's flu-like symptoms

I’m thinking bar fight, but apparently he’s better at it than Glenn Davis.

"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King

by duck on Aug 8, 2011 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'll just leave this here

Damn it feels good to be a contributor, Music City Miracles.
"We’re not backing down, we’re not scared of them...them and their 180 million dollar payroll"
- Kevin Gregg

by danielreese05 on Aug 8, 2011 4:16 PM EDT reply actions  

This was posted by Roch early this morning, but I'm just getting to it
Reliever Arthur Rhodes, let go by the Rangers, would love to rejoin with the Orioles and end his career where it began. I’m not saying that’s going to happen. It’s not like the NFL, where he’d sign a one-day contract and retire with the organization. But he’s certainly interested in a reunion.

He wasn’t great for the Rangers, obviously, since they cut him. Of course he’s a lefty and they’re not gonna send Mike Gonzalez packing, so I fear it would be at the expense of Troy Patton, who I have grown to like now that I know he’s real.

Giraffes have absurdly strong necks.

by Stacey on Aug 8, 2011 4:21 PM EDT reply actions  

We don't sign washed up old veterans

oh, wait…

Like a bad, suave dude. You know what I'm sayin'. COOL. SC 7/24/08

by 33 on Aug 8, 2011 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

can we please...

let patton start a couple?

just to see what he can do in an expanded role?

"the secret to a happy ending is knowing when to roll the credits"

by j.q. higgins on Aug 8, 2011 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would be surprised if we don't get to that point.

I don’t think the Jo-Jo Reyes experiment will go well.

"That ball is gone. We'll pause ten seconds to commit suicide ... I mean, for a station identification." - Joe Angel, 6/17/11

by Eat More Esskay on Aug 8, 2011 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

the Orioles have so many experiments going on right now

Hunter, Tillman, Reyes, Simon….either none of those are going to go well, or the bar for “go well” is just going to drop so far down that we may not even remember who we are at the end of all of this.

Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the Orioles' season?

by Andrew_G on Aug 8, 2011 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I will not forget the face of my father.

"That ball is gone. We'll pause ten seconds to commit suicide ... I mean, for a station identification." - Joe Angel, 6/17/11

by Eat More Esskay on Aug 8, 2011 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Everyone who forgets first swears they'll never forget

Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the Orioles' season?

by Andrew_G on Aug 8, 2011 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Make it happen

if we are going to waste money on overage players and bullpen “help”, at least let me get all nostalgic while we do so.

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Aug 8, 2011 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Rockies signed Millwood

So we got that goin for us. Which is nice.

by Nafer on Aug 8, 2011 4:28 PM EDT reply actions  

how does this affect his HOF chances?

The Andy MacPhail plan: "Grow nothing. Buy the pen," (Wieters Weiner 2011).

by birdman on Aug 8, 2011 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Britton

Goes on the DL with a strained shoulder after pitching last Thursday night. Now I read after taking some anti-inflammatory medication he is scheduled to pitch at Bowie on Sunday (10 days after going on the DL). What is going on that we feel the need to rush him back or was the shoulder strain a made-up excuse to send him down?

by pabirdfan on Aug 8, 2011 6:13 PM EDT reply actions  

BLARG

Its like all of our pitchers are addicted to morphine at this point. What will it take for us to cut our losses and shut a pitcher down for the close of the season to have them get healthy.

by Benhem612 on Aug 8, 2011 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's too bad the O's don't have enough wins to even have a collapse.

Flatlining is probably the right word for what is going to happen from now to October.

Mother, did it need to be so high.

by salvotion on Aug 8, 2011 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

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