What Do the Orioles Need?
by Terpfan96 on Aug 8, 2011 6:03 PM EDT
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Fans, I ask you: What do the Baltimore Orioles need?
Is it better pitching?
A better farm system?
A new manager?
Better hitters?
A new general manger
A new stadium?
A new city.
The Orioles need something. They could possibly need all these things. I think that in order for the Orioles to succeed they need pitching, because pitching is what every team in baseball needs. But I want to see what you guys think. So weigh in please.
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First and foremost: A new bloody owner. Quite frankly Peter Angelos does not care about the players and fan’s best interests. He just sits in his fortress counting the money he sued from working people
A new GM: Andy McPhail obviously hasn’t watched ESPN since Dennis Miller was on Monday Night Football. He is way behind baseball. He still won’t tap into Latin America, he signs elderly veterans. This buy the balsa wood bats and grow the arms with cheap dollar store fertilizer is not working.
A new scouter: Joe Jordan hasn’t worked out either.
New pitching
Need to get rid of Reynolds
Need to get rid of Vladimir
Need to get rid of Felix Pie and Robert Andino
yeah, reynolds and dino have been absolute scrubs this year
definitely the problem #WhatWorldDoYouLiveOn
Dino leads the team in OBP! that’s kinda sad though.
Damn it feels good to be a contributor, Music City Miracles.
"We’re not backing down, we’re not scared of them...them and their 180 million dollar payroll"
- Kevin Gregg
by danielreese05 on Aug 8, 2011 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Joe Jordan is a very good scouting director.
Our problem is development, not acquisition.
"Baseball is an island of activity in a sea of statistics." - Anon
whose idea was Hobgood? even the best make mistakes sometimes but….wow, that was just kind of dumb.
Damn it feels good to be a contributor, Music City Miracles.
"We’re not backing down, we’re not scared of them...them and their 180 million dollar payroll"
- Kevin Gregg
by danielreese05 on Aug 9, 2011 1:58 AM EDT up reply actions
Well, there was (and is) the issue of prefering signability over talent/ potential.
But Hobgood was considered a first-round talent. Many have said he’s a completely different pitcher now and not for the better.
"Baseball is an island of activity in a sea of statistics." - Anon
He was considered late first round talent at best
everybody was shocked that we took him, because he wouldn’t have gone for another 20 picks at least. that’s stupid.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
The point is he wouldn't have been available to the O's in the next round.
Was Hobgood the smart choice at that point? No. Was Hobgood a good choice? Probably not, but it’s way too early to tell. Is that what’s going to change my mind about Joe Jordan? No. He’s done a good job of acquiring, but we can’t do anything with it.
"Baseball is an island of activity in a sea of statistics." - Anon
by J(O's)elskIL on Aug 11, 2011 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions
Why is that the point???
I thought the point was to take the best player available – who gives a shit if the guy taken 25 picks after your pick wouldn’t be available the next time you pick? That’s some of the worst draft logic I’ve ever heard. Almost everybody projected to be taken late in the first round wouldn’t have been available the next time they picked.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
not true.
Baseball America had moved him up to a mid first round pick before the draft. And if we only look at signability, why did we draft Wieters who only dropped to us because teams ahead of us were scared of his signability. Why did we just draft a kid who said he wanted $30M? Why have we been in top part of the list of total spending on draft for years now? THere is enough to complain about in regards to the Orioles without making stuff up or mischara
by Lucky Horseshoe on Aug 18, 2011 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions
how much time do you have? seriously though, this is the year of the pitcher for everyone but us, we need Matusz et. al to step up big time.
Damn it feels good to be a contributor, Music City Miracles.
"We’re not backing down, we’re not scared of them...them and their 180 million dollar payroll"
- Kevin Gregg
Everything but new city and new stadium
New stadiums are overrated and end up making it so people like me don’t want to casually stop by and grab a game due to the stupid ticket prices.
The Orioles aren't going ANYWHERE
They still have a contract at OPACY for at least another ten years. Moving the Orioles now would be a horrible financial decision. It’s like purchasing a gym membership and not going…only wasting money. Hopefully we can get an owner in by then who actually gives a shit about the team’s best interests.
by miskatonic86 on Aug 9, 2011 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Pretty much agree, but
it’s kind of a pointless poll if you can’t prioritize, esp. since a lot of these bleed into each other; you can’t get better pitching if you’re “growing arms” in shitty soil (that would be the farm system). Also, anyone notice that the list in the post included a “better farm system” but that that option didn’t make it onto the actual poll? I’d say that’s far and away the area of greatest need. If I had to rank them, I’d say:
1. Better farm system
2. Better pitching
3. New GM (MacPhail is just too old-school and not nearly SABR-inclined enough to compete with the Friedman’s, Epstein’s and Anthopoulous’s of the division/league)
4. Better hitters
5. Possibly a new manager—Buck is a VAST improvement over everyone since Davey J. (though I think Hargrove was set up to fail and could have been more successful if he’d had a F.O. here like the one he had in Cleveland), but again, seems to only use stats to back up his ingrained views on management, not as a way to pinpoint our weaknesses to improve them or opponents’ weaknesses to exploit them.
As for a new city and/or stadium, that’s garbage. OPACY is still a top-5 ballpark, and Baltimore has a pretty tremendous and rich tradition as a baseball town given our relatively youth as a franchise.
Consider the fact that since 1954 we’ve appeared in more and won the same number of World Series as the White Sox, who’ve been around twice as long. In fact, we’re narrowly out of the top 10 in that regard only due to the fact that the Braves have appeared two more times (though they’ve also won three).
Final point: anyone notice that “new owner” wasn’t listed as an option in either the list OR the poll? Smells like Peter might be fishing for someone/thing to point the finger at… just WHO IS “TerpFan96”? :)
"Look, we all deal with Lou Montanez in our individual ways."-Andrew_G
by NoTimeForLove, Dr. Jones! on Aug 18, 2011 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions
A new owner should be number one
Today, I thought all those rumblings in the city was all of Baltimore jumping up and down, because Peter Angelos admitted how much of a failure he is and decided to sell the team. Imagine my disappointed when it was actually just and earthquake in Virginia.
by miskatonic86 on Aug 23, 2011 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions
What we need is health
Give us back the loewen we thought we had before injury. Matusz, Arietta. Roberts. Bedard.
by Lucky Horseshoe on Aug 18, 2011 12:33 PM EDT reply actions
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