Tuesday Bird Droppings
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PrintLife After Andy MacPhail: Experienced Hands Outside of the Organization - Camden Depot
"I think Hart and Krivsky are the two likely ones from this group to have consideration to replace MacPhail. The one selected would be based on whoever had more power: Buck or MacPhail."
Will the Orioles lose 100 games this season? - baltimoresun.com
"They have lost eight of their last 10 and 28 of their last 37. They haven’t won a series in more than a month (June 24-26). And, that begs the question that was floating around the press box Monday night after the Orioles threw a game away to the Chicago White Sox: Will these Orioles do it? Will they lose 100 games?"
Would you like to see Reynolds play first base permanently? - baltimoresun.com
Reynolds: "I don't know if I like [first] better, but it's good to just do whatever I can to help the team win. If they want me to play first, I'll be at first. If they want me at third, I'll be there, and if they want me to be in the outfield, I'll go to the outfield. Maybe not catcher. I don't like catcher so much."
Amber Theoharis: Showalter, Birds need to being evaluating for next season - MASN
"Who would you like to get a better look at these last two months of the season, and who are you ready to cut ties with?"
Matthew Taylor: Trying to keep things in perspective - MASN
"Rather than focus on the day-to-day frustrations of the Birds' 14th consecutive losing season, I'm attempting to consider the big picture and keep things in perspective. After all, how bad could it be?"
Measuring the Growth of Sabermetrics - Beyond the Box Score
"The proliferation of sabermetrics can be largely attributed to the rise of the internet, which gives an appropriate medium for many types of baseball discussion. Websites, such as the very one you are reading, provide for an excellent forum from which to learn. As such, it seems that it would be appropriate to measure the growth of sabermetrics using the internet, specifically using tools like Google Trends."
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Time to get rid of Vlad.
Put Reynolds at the cleanup spot and let Bell, Reimold, or Chris/Blake Davis get at-bat’s as the DH.
"Sabermetrics is now melting with mainstream baseball." Yikes, somebody turn off the microwave!
I assumed only the Orioles were melting…
More seriously, the extent to which sabermetrics is actually melding with MLB (broadly understood) is a good question. If the Bill-James-does-60-Minutes spike was notable — nice graph there, btw — it’ll be VERY interesting to see what kind of spike Brad Pitt as Billy Beane produces.
Welcome to the Suck: Narrating the Oriole Fan's Experience 1998-2011
I'm guessing Billy handpicked that one.
"Human beings make life so interesting. Do you know, that in a universe so full of wonders, they have managed to invent boredom?" ~ Death
I suspect the actual melding will take a very long time
while the proliferation of the terms and stats in a poorly understood fashion will continue very rapidly from here. (Look, I understand them poorly and I’m writing about them now.) That’s because I suspect the proliferation has more to do with the constantly increasing number of media outlets and the constant shortening of news cycles.
The current media environment needs a lot more stuff to talk about, and while sabermetrics provides a lot of insight, it also provides a plain lot of stuff. You can gloss over the insight and just jump on the stuff. ‘We talked about ERA in the last segment, what now? OK, let’s do FIP’ All the better, it will provide 2 segments for a while — “What is FIP?” (tell me, tell me, if you think now) and then “Who’s got a good FIP?” Bonus.
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by 33 on Aug 9, 2011 9:11 AM EDT up reply actions
*know
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by 33 on Aug 9, 2011 9:12 AM EDT up reply actions
**you know
The sad part is, I proofread that.
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by 33 on Aug 9, 2011 9:13 AM EDT up reply actions
did you proofread amber's headline too?
come on MASN, that’s pretty weak
"you know what the orioles could use right now? a day off." - joe angel
by swilhelmross on Aug 9, 2011 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions
FIP is totally that sound that Spiderman's webbing makes as it comes outta his wristband thingies
"Human beings make life so interesting. Do you know, that in a universe so full of wonders, they have managed to invent boredom?" ~ Death
thwip?
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by 33 on Aug 9, 2011 9:35 AM EDT up reply actions
thwip's not a stat... yet :P
"Human beings make life so interesting. Do you know, that in a universe so full of wonders, they have managed to invent boredom?" ~ Death
tweak the formula and we present the new and improved - Total hitbatsmen and walks per inning pitched
by Benhem612 on Aug 9, 2011 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Now we just need to figure out "Snikt"
and maybe “bamf”.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
The Nightcrawler stat
requires intersecting traditional stats with PitchFx:
Batting Average on Marginal Fastballs
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by 33 on Aug 9, 2011 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions
I like that BAMF stat
I bet it’s got a pretty high standard though.
Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the Orioles' season?
BAMF should actually be BAM-SYM
"Human beings make life so interesting. Do you know, that in a universe so full of wonders, they have managed to invent boredom?" ~ Death
it has taken a long time
When did Bill James start doing this work? Way before I was born, I can tell you that much.
Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the Orioles' season?
first abstract came out in 1977.
The Andy MacPhail plan: "Grow nothing. Buy the pen," (Wieters Weiner 2011).
Honestly, considering that most TV stations still just display AVG, HR, RBI,
it’s gonna take a looong time. We don’t even have them displaying slash lines yet, and that’s not even saber-y, really.
"Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs." -- Earl Weaver
What is FIP? If you're really FIP, the regression to the mean will show.
"That ball is gone. We'll pause ten seconds to commit suicide ... I mean, for a station identification." - Joe Angel, 6/17/11
by Eat More Esskay on Aug 9, 2011 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions
You're doin' the FIP trip
FIPper than FIP
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by 33 on Aug 9, 2011 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions
I think advanced stats are very very slowly making their way into ESPN and other big networks. did you see how proud ESPN was of their fancy new advanced QB rating?
Damn it feels good to be a contributor, Music City Miracles.
"We’re not backing down, we’re not scared of them...them and their 180 million dollar payroll"
- Kevin Gregg
by danielreese05 on Aug 9, 2011 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions
I have to hand it to ESPN
it’s better than QB rating. That doesn’t mean all that much by itself though.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
At least they made it easy to understand.
Even if it’s not easy to compute.
A simple 1-100 scale where 50 represents dead average. I can work with that.
by Wieters Wieners on Aug 9, 2011 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Yea
and I haven’t looked at it in-depth, so I’m not saying it’s great or horrid. I just know it’s better than QB rating, which was so useless I can’t believe it ever got off the ground.
Honestly though, football is sooo much harder to break down into stats than baseball it’s almost not even worth the effort. There are so many variables that impact everything that stats really can’t explain.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
hopefully that draft time is good.
I tried at least 5 slots before I finally got one that wasn’t already taken.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
You can always just select "offline draft" and do it turn-based on a spreadsheet at your leisure.
by Wieters Wieners on Aug 9, 2011 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions
Those aren't fun.
Not a bad option, but I think the draft is probably the most fun thing about these fantasy leagues.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
i will tentatively say the draft date doesn't look so good for me...
is an early sunday evening draft possible?
"the secret to a happy ending is knowing when to roll the credits"
Those don't usually work for me, but I'll see what the other players have to say.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Aug 9, 2011 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions
Agreed
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Aug 9, 2011 9:47 AM EDT up reply actions
i want to sign up but yahoo fantasy is blocked at work
can i call dibs on a spot and sign up this evening?
carolina in my mind...
I'll hold one for you....or try anyways.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
I don't think it'll let me boot anyone, but I'm assuming we should still have an opening by the time you get home from work.
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by twistedlogic on Aug 9, 2011 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions
I think you can boot before the draft
GC do it from your smart phone.
Also, it may save a spot for him if you email him an invite, but I can’t be sure. It saved spots when I emailed invites for my baseball league, but that was a renewed league that’ s been going on for a few years
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Aug 9, 2011 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions
Yea....I can remove teams before the draft.
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by twistedlogic on Aug 9, 2011 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions
downside of being a government employee
no phone access during the day either
carolina in my mind...
How do you live in such squalor!?!?!
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Aug 9, 2011 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions
it's a daily struggle
i feel like i live back in the stone age…
no but in all seriousness, i was fine until a couple weeks ago when they went apeshit and blocked almost every site that i visit. but then, they decided to unblock YouTube even though it had been blocked for the past two years. the logic that goes on around here is astonishing.
carolina in my mind...
At least you still have us...
That’s the important thing.
by Wieters Wieners on Aug 9, 2011 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah YouTube is probably
the biggest culprit as far as bandwidth suckage that goes on around there and they’re gonna unblock that, but block Yahoo? Weird.
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Aug 9, 2011 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions
Youtube is a valuable corporate learning tool....
*Note – the headline of this posting does not reflect the beliefs of the author
A non-believer!!
Stone the heretic!
"Baseball is an island of activity in a sea of statistics." - Anon
No Google the last time the O's had a winning season
I think that’s the one that gets me. I don’t really remember the internet without Google but I sure to remember that damned Jeffrey Maier.
josh bell...
it has to be said that things look bleak for the proto-nugget.
…but then, how can anyone reasonably justify not giving bell chances when vlad is consistently put at clean up to ill effect or for all the reps pie has taken this year?
"the secret to a happy ending is knowing when to roll the credits"
justifying that is easy
a) how many MVPs has Bell won?
b) how many years was Bell in the Cubs system?
Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the Orioles' season?
reasonably, grasshopper...
reasonably.
"the secret to a happy ending is knowing when to roll the credits"
by j.q. higgins on Aug 9, 2011 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions
I think you mean fairly
I don’t think you can reasonably justify anything off precedents that weren’t reasonable to start with.
But you can say it’s fair for any player to be given ample opportunity to underperform when other players have been given that (and delivered).
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by 33 on Aug 9, 2011 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions
seriously now, the difference is obvious
Vlad was and is allowed to underperform at the cleanup spot because he has had a legendary career and was still pretty good 15 months ago. I would also put down that his position in the lineup is unimportant since if he’s in there then he’ll still be taking up 4 or more PA every night with his brand of suck. But I seriously doubt Buck Showalter or Andy MacPhail subscribe to the whole “the lineup is an overrated micromanaging concept” school of thought.
Pie was and is allowed to underperform in left field because there’s nobody else that is really grabbing the reins on the position on the roster. Again, here I would cough and point to the jerked-around Reimold, but it’s been immensely obvious for a while now that the Orioles don’t like him as a player.
Bell will not be given the same treatment because the depth chart at the corner infield spots has two guys decidedly and worthily ahead of him. He has only a crappy track record with which to make a case for continued chances.
Yes, of course it would undoubtedly smartest to cut Vlad and DH Reynolds and then play Davis and Bell everyday. But let’s try to stick with the absurd reality that is the Baltimore Oriole thought process…which I have a gut feeling has shifted heroically into “We need to do everything in our power not to lose 100 games”.
Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the Orioles' season?
I think there's some kind of cautionary tale in there.
When you start out the season trying to win 82 games, you will end the season trying to win 63 games.
"That ball is gone. We'll pause ten seconds to commit suicide ... I mean, for a station identification." - Joe Angel, 6/17/11
by Eat More Esskay on Aug 9, 2011 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions
I used to tell this to students
who said at the start of a course they hoped to get a ‘C.’ I said to think of it like shooting an arrow at a distant target — you have to account for gravity (i.e. life happens).
Aim at the A and you may hit the C. Aim at the C and you’re going to fail.
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by 33 on Aug 9, 2011 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
There's no way C students understood that analogy
jk
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Aug 9, 2011 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions
I once drew a target, bow & arrow on the board
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by 33 on Aug 9, 2011 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah
It just doesn’t make any sense! Gravity is the weakest of the elemental forces! How could such a weak force drag down one’s average?
by DaveAA on Aug 9, 2011 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
that's awesome
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by 33 on Aug 9, 2011 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions
So we have to aim at what to hit the A?
an A so positively PLUS that it makes Dick Lynch look emo?
"Human beings make life so interesting. Do you know, that in a universe so full of wonders, they have managed to invent boredom?" ~ Death
The stars man, at that point you are aiming for the stars
that or a wrap around F.
Andy MacPhail has not stated his intentions for next year?
Angelos announced that Andy was gong nowhere. Articles are already penciling in a new GM to continue the front office carousel as MacPhail moves to some vague role in the organization. I guess I’m just as confused as the front office.
Rumors used to be that MacPhail would replace Selig. It would surely be a salary upgrade. Bud is pulled in $18.4 million last year. I guess its a good gig if you can get it. Sit on your duff, make sure the Yankees and Red Sox oversaturate all TV contracts and marketing efforts, pull together an occasional mock panel to investigate the scandal du jour. Andy could do all that.
don't forget "be hyper-conservative about any and all changes to The Game"
Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the Orioles' season?
don't forget to hide and control all of your footage so it's much harder for fans to enjoy the game.
by Wieters Wieners on Aug 9, 2011 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
This
I HATE this! It so damn difficult to find highlights of years gone by. If only I were commish for a day…
"Grow nothing, buy the 'Pen" (Wieters Weiners)
Don't forget to never suspend Red Sox players who blatantly bean batters.
"That ball is gone. We'll pause ten seconds to commit suicide ... I mean, for a station identification." - Joe Angel, 6/17/11
by Eat More Esskay on Aug 9, 2011 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions
Useless sorta kinda not totally researched fact
At his current pace, if we had somehow gotten Moldy 450 ABs by the end of the year, he’d have 23 dongs.
"Human beings make life so interesting. Do you know, that in a universe so full of wonders, they have managed to invent boredom?" ~ Death
Also
At his current pace, if we had somehow gotten Moldy 450 ABs by the end of the year, he’d be OPSing .684.
by Wieters Wieners on Aug 9, 2011 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions
Info for CC Pick 'Em Pool is up
http://www.camdenchat.com/2011/8/9/2353256/camden-chat-2011-nfl-pick-em
Try to take down the reigning champ, WW.
Giraffes have absurdly strong necks.
BUODs are up.
http://www.camdenchat.com/2011/8/9/2353155/birds-up-os-down-for-july-25-aug-7
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
CBS Power Rankings Ouch
We’re 28!
Not sure where else to file this fun facto-blurboid, so I’ll stick it here: The AL East shelters nearly as many over-.500 teams (4) as does the entire National League (6); the Orioles are, of course, the fifth … Orioles fans want this season to be over as badly as people required to write a few dopey words about the team do, so starting this week we’ll count down the Top 8 Positive Things Oriole Fans Can Take Away From The 2011 Campaign (why eight? Eight columns left). Coming in at No. 8: The struggles of Britton, Matusz, Arrieta, Tillman and Bergesen have made the Indians and Giants feel much better about trading away their own can’t-miss pitching prospects. Come back next Tuesday for more Oriole mirth.
"Human beings make life so interesting. Do you know, that in a universe so full of wonders, they have managed to invent boredom?" ~ Death
Part of the Sox blurb was funny though
… In the wake of his mini-diatribes about an official scorer who robbed him of a RBI and about his disrespectfully unextended contract, David Ortiz is entering McEnroe territory, where the whines and cries of persecution negate all the good that came before them …
"Human beings make life so interesting. Do you know, that in a universe so full of wonders, they have managed to invent boredom?" ~ Death
I'd like to think it's karma for his vast overreaction against us...
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
I'd like to think it's the result of roid rage and that he'll soon follow Manny into ignominious oblivion.
"That ball is gone. We'll pause ten seconds to commit suicide ... I mean, for a station identification." - Joe Angel, 6/17/11
by Eat More Esskay on Aug 9, 2011 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Ignominious oblivion: where all neck-beards belong.
Lebron, I’m talking to you.
Just because you know how to read, doesn't mean you'll like the book.
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