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OriolesHangout.com - Orioles win late in Boston again, 6-4
The O’s seemed to be on their way to an unexciting loss in the finale, trailing by three runs in the sixth against a cruising Josh Beckett, but for the second night in a row they rallied late to send shock waves through the Fenway crowd. Mark Reynolds blasted a pair of homeruns, including a game-tying two-run shot in the seventh, and Vladimir Guerrero’s go-ahead two-run single in the eighth secured the Birds’ third straight series win.

Orioles Buzz: Daniel Moroz: Matusz's nosedive has been historically horrible
Matusz, mercifully, does not have the worst ERA ever when you compare it to the league average, though (and adjust for ballpark). Here are the top (or, I suppose, bottom) five (minimum 40 innings pitched):

Amber Theoharis: O's can't rely on home-grown pitching for 2012
The Orioles must go after a marquee free agent pitcher this offseason. I'm not talking a middle-of-the-road veteran in his late 30s with a career ERA near 5.00. I'm talking a legitimate ace who can be the stopper every fifth day.

Orioles starter Tommy Hunter strains groin; hopes to make next start | orioles.com: News
"It got pretty tight," said Hunter, who left after Mike Aviles grounded out. "It was one of those things, been lingering around all year. It got really tight and it was just one of those things. I needed to come out."

Orioles-Tigers Preview - Sep. 22, 2011 - MLB - CBSSports.com
The Baltimore Orioles hope to use a recent surge against some of the AL's top teams as a springboard to a possible playoff run next season. HAHAHAHAHAHAAH

This Date in Baseball | Richmond Times-Dispatch
1966 — The Baltimore Orioles clinched their first AL pennant in 22 years with a 6-1 victory over the Kansas City A's.

Buck Showalter inflates Jim Johnson’s value | Through The Fence Baseball
Showalter supposedly toyed with the idea of using Johnson as a starter over the season’s final month. He’s clearly thought better of that plan and is now employing Johnson in a way that maximizes his current talent and long term value. I expect to hear Johnson’s name swirl in trade talks this Winter as Baltimore seeks starting pitching and long term options at third base, second base and left field.

Orioles rookie Ryan Adams to undergo sports hernia surgery soon | orioles.com:
Adams has been dealing with the injury all season, although he initially thought it was a groin issue and was treating it as such while with Triple-A Norfolk. It was so painful at one point that Adams couldn't lift his leg out of bed one day, and an MRI about two weeks ago revealed a tear in the area and confirmed it was a sports hernia.

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So, who is the 2012 2B starter for the O's?

Adams, Andino, or Roberts (yeah right)?
If BriBob is out, I hope Adams takes 2B while Andino is at 3B/ utility IF

War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Vlad is good.

by J(O's)elskIL on Sep 22, 2011 8:31 AM EDT reply actions  

I am hoping free agents from other teams

but I would live with Andino. I assume Reynolds/Davis will play 1B and DH and hopefully they can sign a FA to play 3B.

"Grow nothing, buy the 'Pen" (Wieters Weiners)

by IggesRule13 on Sep 22, 2011 8:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Unless Vlad is re-signed...

"Grow nothing, buy the 'Pen" (Wieters Weiners)

by IggesRule13 on Sep 22, 2011 8:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

barf

"I may make you feel, but I can't make you think." Ian Anderson

by Zeke McGeek on Sep 22, 2011 8:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Which begs the question 'which FA 3B will be floating around this offseason'?

Accd. to MLBTR, 3B FA after this season:

Wilson Betemit (30)
Casey Blake (38) – $6MM club option with a $1.25MM buyout
Jorge Cantu (30)
Eric Chavez (34)
Craig Counsell (41)
Mark DeRosa (37)
Greg Dobbs (33)
Edwin Encarnacion (29) – $3.5MM club option with a $500K buyout
Jerry Hairston Jr. (36)
Omar Infante (30)
Felipe Lopez (32)
Jose Lopez (28)
Nick Punto (34)
Aramis Ramirez (34) – $16MM club option with a $2MM buyout; Ramirez can void
Omar Vizquel (45)

Ehh. A 41 year-old Craig Counsell to the Orioles, anyone??? :P

by zsiv on Sep 22, 2011 9:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

barf, dammit.

aarmis said he is going to test free agency. get him some roids!

"Grow nothing, buy the 'Pen" (Wieters Weiners)

by IggesRule13 on Sep 22, 2011 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Omar Vizquel?

Isn’t Juan Samuel available?

"I may make you feel, but I can't make you think." Ian Anderson

by Zeke McGeek on Sep 22, 2011 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Edwin Encarnacion is having a great second half

I’m guessing the Jays will hang onto him

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Sep 22, 2011 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hope they do.

If there’s one person who might match Reynolds’ horrendous D, it would be E5.

Mother, did it need to be so high.

by salvotion on Sep 22, 2011 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not

convinced that this team should sign any free agents and if they do they damn well better be impact free agents. 2B have any impact free agents available?

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Sep 22, 2011 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

from MLBTR

Clint Barmes (33)
Willie Bloomquist (34) – $1.1MM mutual option with a $150K buyout
Orlando Cabrera (37)
Robinson Cano (29) – $14MM club option with a $2MM buyout
Jamey Carroll (37)
Alex Cora (36)
Craig Counsell (41)
Mark Ellis (35)
Jerry Hairston Jr. (36)
Bill Hall (32) – $4MM mutual option with a $250K buyout
Aaron Hill (30) – $8MM club option for 2012 and $8MM club option for ’13
Omar Infante (30)
Kelly Johnson (30)
Adam Kennedy (36)
Felipe Lopez (32)
Jose Lopez (28)
Aaron Miles (35)
Brandon Phillips (31) – $12MM club option with a $1MM buyout

Cano and Phillips are both going to have their options picked up, so other than that the list is pretty crappy looking.

carolina in my mind...

by Gamecock24 on Sep 22, 2011 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yup

So let’s just save our money and draft picks and see what a full season of Adams, or Andino if Chris Davis can play 3rd, looks like.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Sep 22, 2011 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

i would maybe be ok with taking a run at Kelly Johnson

i know it’s a SSS, but he’s put up decent numbers since coming over to the AL East (.369 OBP in about 100 PA)

carolina in my mind...

by Gamecock24 on Sep 22, 2011 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

is roberts...

worth considering for a strictly offensive role if he can still play?

"the secret to a happy ending is knowing when to roll the credits"

by j.q. higgins on Sep 22, 2011 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

DH? I don't know, I don't think so.

He won’t hit for a lot of power, but if he’s still the doubles machine he was before all the injuries, maybe?
My gut says no on this though.

War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Vlad is good.

by J(O's)elskIL on Sep 22, 2011 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

well, doubles machine...

would be swell, but assuming he is still able to competently acquit himself at the plate, he is presently the under contract oriole most adept at getting on base. is a leadoff dh totally wacky?

"the secret to a happy ending is knowing when to roll the credits"

by j.q. higgins on Sep 22, 2011 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

There's no reason a DH shouldn't bat leadoff.

If the DH is the right guy (Brian) than put him in there. It does raise the question if he should be the DH.
I’m assuming that you’re assuming that he will be able to bat but not field.

War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Vlad is good.

by J(O's)elskIL on Sep 22, 2011 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

i'm not assuming...

just wondering.

"the secret to a happy ending is knowing when to roll the credits"

by j.q. higgins on Sep 22, 2011 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

We can look at Morneau as an example of recovery from a concussion

or we could also look at Jason Bay. There’s no knowing how someone will come back. But the ability to bat (from what I’ve read) comes back before fielding, so there is a real chance that we see Brian as a DH next year and if he is back to himself at the plate, we’ll should have our DH leading off.

War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Vlad is good.

by J(O's)elskIL on Sep 22, 2011 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

I wonder if Roberts could play 3B?

Less likely to get injured there.

"The key to winning baseball games is pitching, fundamentals, and three-run homers."

by ThreeRunHomer on Sep 22, 2011 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Doubt he has the arm for it.

"Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs." -- Earl Weaver

by Vuff on Sep 22, 2011 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

He was primarily a SS through the minors and college

I’m sure he could handle it, but I don’t see that much of a reason to think he’d be less likely to get injured there.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Sep 22, 2011 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think the only factor

is not being slid into while turning double plays, but Brob never got hurt doing that that I can remember.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Sep 22, 2011 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

So he's in the path of all the line drives?

That’ll sure keep him healthy. :p

"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP

by Eat More Esskay on Sep 22, 2011 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

wasn't that the nasty injury in 2005?

"the secret to a happy ending is knowing when to roll the credits"

by j.q. higgins on Sep 22, 2011 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

No

that was covering first on a bunt and the throw pulled him into the runner.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Sep 22, 2011 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

ah...

so nasty, though.

"the secret to a happy ending is knowing when to roll the credits"

by j.q. higgins on Sep 22, 2011 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah gross.

I still remember the look on his face – looked like a little kid getting injured and looking up at their parents for help.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Sep 22, 2011 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

no man...

should ever have to see that sort of thing. or the theismann injury.

"the secret to a happy ending is knowing when to roll the credits"

by j.q. higgins on Sep 22, 2011 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

None of his concussions occurred while playing 2B

One was hitting himself in the helmet with a bat, the other was a head-first slide into 1B as a runner. He could have been DH and done both.

"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King

by duck on Sep 22, 2011 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

He also could have been a non-dumbass and done neither.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Sep 22, 2011 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is also true

"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King

by duck on Sep 22, 2011 4:07 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I think it'll be BriBob

but who starts the other 159 games is a guessing game at this point

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Sep 22, 2011 8:55 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

rec'd for truth.

"the secret to a happy ending is knowing when to roll the credits"

by j.q. higgins on Sep 22, 2011 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

Swift Boat Recs for Truth

"Real Orioles don't pout. Real Orioles don't gloat. Real Orioles just win."

by NewYorkOriole on Sep 22, 2011 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

rec yourself...

before you wreck yourself?

"the secret to a happy ending is knowing when to roll the credits"

by j.q. higgins on Sep 22, 2011 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

Please rec...................................

…………………………………responsibly

"Real Orioles don't pout. Real Orioles don't gloat. Real Orioles just win."

by NewYorkOriole on Sep 22, 2011 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

If we go Adams and Andino as infield starters

then we might as well blow the team up completely. Which actually might not be a horrendous idea, you know…

Jim: Why?
Gary: I don't know why.

by Andrew_G on Sep 22, 2011 9:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Let's do it

Rebuild around Machado/Bundy, haha… I want to get off this ride.

Will work for Recs.

by Wieters Wieners on Sep 22, 2011 9:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

I won't go through my usual rhetoric

suffice it to say that if the Orioles aren’t already planning to (re)build around Machado and Bundy, they’re in worst trouble than we all realize

Jim: Why?
Gary: I don't know why.

by Andrew_G on Sep 22, 2011 9:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

That's my thinking.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Sep 22, 2011 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

I basically agree,

but how completely are we talking? Jones and Markakis seem like obvious trades: the former because he may be our best trade chip, and the latter because he looks like he’s going to be rather overpaid shortly. Reynolds, Scott (if we tender him), Guthrie, and Johnson are probably all okay (not great, just okay) value-wise, but should probably go, too. We’ve got Hardy on a pretty team-friendly deal and he seems to have a no-trade handshake deal for this offseason, but he could be a valuable piece in theory.

But what about the younger guys who haven’t hit arbitration yet? Matusz and Tillman probably have so little trade value right now that we might as well hang onto them and hope they figure it out. I assume we keep Britton… but do we keep Wieters and Arrieta?

"Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs." -- Earl Weaver

by Vuff on Sep 22, 2011 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nobody's gonna want Markakis, so we shouldn't even worry about trading him.

Anybody else who can bring back real value is somebody we ought to look at trading though.

And real value doesn’t just mean a couple guys who put on a major league uniform before. I’m still not convinced the O’s got real value for Koji.

"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP

by Eat More Esskay on Sep 22, 2011 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hint: they didn't.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Sep 22, 2011 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

mmm ladies hot butts.

Of course, I’m not opening this link at work.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Sep 22, 2011 9:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

it's SFW

it’s just a story about how the Baltimore City Paper did their “Best of Baltimore” edition and the Safeway in Canton got voted best place to check out hot girls cause they’re all wearing yoga pants

carolina in my mind...

by Gamecock24 on Sep 22, 2011 9:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

man

I’ll have to get down there more often.

"Grow nothing, buy the 'Pen" (Wieters Weiners)

by IggesRule13 on Sep 22, 2011 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

This is absolutely true

Every damn girl in that place is smokin hot. There’s a better selection there than there is at the bars at night.

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Sep 22, 2011 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Shit....

Guess I gotta start hitting up Safeway. I’m usually more of a Wegman’s shopper though.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Sep 22, 2011 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's not the name, it's the location

The store’s pretty dirty by Whole Foods and Wegmans standards. Canton is an oasis of young beautiful 20-something yuppies and rich housewives.

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Sep 22, 2011 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Heh...I was just making a joke (corny, I know)

I really should check this place out though. I like beautiful 20-somethings.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Sep 22, 2011 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

You have Wegmans in Baltimore?!

I had no idea they’d expanded down that far. I live 2 minutes from their headquarters in Rochester and I still remember when Wegmans was strictly local, and not even the top supermarket in the area. And I’m not even that old, either.

by owllover711 on Sep 23, 2011 2:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

the wegmans in hunt valley...

is ridiculous.

"the secret to a happy ending is knowing when to roll the credits"

by j.q. higgins on Sep 23, 2011 8:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

I work at whole foods

and I look at woman’s butts in yoga pants ALL DAMN DAY AFTER DAY…haha

The stock market will never recover, our armies will never again be #1, and our children will drink filthy water for the rest of their lives - HST

by the fix is in on Sep 22, 2011 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

Damn...some of the picks this week are giving me fits.

Detroit @ Minnesota, Miami @ Cleveland

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Sep 22, 2011 9:24 AM EDT reply actions  

NYJ @ Oakland sucks too.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Sep 22, 2011 9:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

lots of shitty teams beating up on each other

well, except for Detroit, i think that they’re legit

carolina in my mind...

by Gamecock24 on Sep 22, 2011 9:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think Minny could surprise them.

NYJ always seem to suck in Oakland, but Oakland sucks in Oakland too. In fact, they suck outside of Oakland too.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Sep 22, 2011 9:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

At the risk of starting a debate about capital punishment...

Rest in peace Troy Davis, who very well could have been innocent. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: I’d spare the lives of 100,000 guilty men if it meant one innocent man wouldn’t be executed.

"Dyslexia?? It's DCO." - WestcoastO'sfan

by DCO'sfan on Sep 22, 2011 9:28 AM EDT reply actions  

not on here.

But I’m staunchly anti-death penalty. And I’ve said it a lot.

"Dyslexia?? It's DCO." - WestcoastO'sfan

by DCO'sfan on Sep 22, 2011 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

gay people, sarah palin, bike lanes

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Sep 22, 2011 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

less filling, tastes great

"I may make you feel, but I can't make you think." Ian Anderson

by Zeke McGeek on Sep 22, 2011 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

The Wire

"Human beings make life so interesting. Do you know, that in a universe so full of wonders, they have managed to invent boredom?" ~ Death

by NSOsFan on Sep 22, 2011 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

2011 Mobbies.

WHO. WILL. OWN. IT?

"Tiger got to hunt, bird got to fly; Man got to sit and wonder 'why, why, why?' Tiger got to sleep, bird got to land; Man got to tell himself he understand.."

by tflach2 on Sep 22, 2011 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

WERE YOU THERE

When CC won the Mobbies again?

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Sep 22, 2011 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Let's not go counting our chickens before the eggs hatch.

"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP

by Eat More Esskay on Sep 22, 2011 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Dude...we've already rigged the system again.

All of the votes have been bought and paid for.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Sep 22, 2011 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

They already held the Iowa straw poll.

"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP

by Eat More Esskay on Sep 22, 2011 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

Inconclusive. Going to the Nebraska corn poll.

"Human beings make life so interesting. Do you know, that in a universe so full of wonders, they have managed to invent boredom?" ~ Death

by NSOsFan on Sep 22, 2011 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

And Ron Paul's not in this one

"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King

by duck on Sep 22, 2011 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

Who's counting the votes?

Katherine Harris? Ken Blackwell? Joseph Stalin?

"If you don't like the effect, don't produce the cause."

- George Clinton

by sluggo 2.0 on Sep 22, 2011 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wait

I thought CC had MOOBIES.

Oh, CamdenChat, nevermind.

Will work for Recs.

by Wieters Wieners on Sep 22, 2011 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Looks like I won the topic baiting game.

I always knew I was a master baiter.

"Tiger got to hunt, bird got to fly; Man got to sit and wonder 'why, why, why?' Tiger got to sleep, bird got to land; Man got to tell himself he understand.."

by tflach2 on Sep 22, 2011 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

I did some baking the other day.

I’m a master baker.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Sep 22, 2011 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've ridden ALL the lanes

I’m a master biker.

"Human beings make life so interesting. Do you know, that in a universe so full of wonders, they have managed to invent boredom?" ~ Death

by NSOsFan on Sep 22, 2011 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm Andy Pettitte

I’m a master balker.

"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and a little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott

by zknower on Sep 22, 2011 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm Silky Johnson

I’m a master hater.

"Human beings make life so interesting. Do you know, that in a universe so full of wonders, they have managed to invent boredom?" ~ Death

by NSOsFan on Sep 22, 2011 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh, amber...

so the o’s need to go after a legit ace like c.j. wilson or mark buehrle? uh, pass.

"the secret to a happy ending is knowing when to roll the credits"

by j.q. higgins on Sep 22, 2011 9:54 AM EDT reply actions  

you know what?

the team’s gonna suck for awhile. might as well blow PGA’s cash on some legit fun players to watch. Buehrle’s fun to watch. maybe he can win 7 or 8 games!

Tommy hunter still sucks!

by Steve. on Sep 22, 2011 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

is he?

i always think of buehrle as boring, but effective.

and there MAY be a pun in there.

"the secret to a happy ending is knowing when to roll the credits"

by j.q. higgins on Sep 22, 2011 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

but he's so quick!

(twss)

Tommy hunter still sucks!

by Steve. on Sep 22, 2011 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

btw.

Happy birthday to birdman and me!

"Dyslexia?? It's DCO." - WestcoastO'sfan

by DCO'sfan on Sep 22, 2011 10:18 AM EDT reply actions  

Um... 17 is more like it.

I’m a senior in high school, not a freshman :)

"Dyslexia?? It's DCO." - WestcoastO'sfan

by DCO'sfan on Sep 22, 2011 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

But thanks!

"Dyslexia?? It's DCO." - WestcoastO'sfan

by DCO'sfan on Sep 22, 2011 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

despite all the bullshit...

this team might end up w/ a slightly better record than last year’s team and could end up modestly outpacing its pythag record. of course, this is cold comfort when you’re talking about a 90+ loss team and probably says something about murphy’s law and the folly of trying to build an 81 win team.

"the secret to a happy ending is knowing when to roll the credits"

by j.q. higgins on Sep 22, 2011 10:30 AM EDT reply actions  

draft implications?

false hope?

"the secret to a happy ending is knowing when to roll the credits"

by j.q. higgins on Sep 22, 2011 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

it isn't bad news either

it just is. And it’s always the best thing to point to when you look at true performance level.

Anyway, there’s no way to spin a slight improvement in record or run differential as a positive. This team stinks, and it stunk last year, and it looks like it’ll stink next year, too.

Jim: Why?
Gary: I don't know why.

by Andrew_G on Sep 22, 2011 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

sure there is!

how credible the spin is is an entirely different matter.

but, yes…this could very well be another stinky team next year.

"the secret to a happy ending is knowing when to roll the credits"

by j.q. higgins on Sep 22, 2011 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think that's the biggest difference to me

from this year to last year.

Last year, we had an awesome August and September. And it was all on the backs of our promising young pitching.

This year we are having an awesome September. And it’s all in spite of our horrendous starting pitching.

Last year was full of hope, this year we are just fucking with the Red Sox. Which is fun, but full of sound an fury, signifying nothing.

"Tiger got to hunt, bird got to fly; Man got to sit and wonder 'why, why, why?' Tiger got to sleep, bird got to land; Man got to tell himself he understand.."

by tflach2 on Sep 22, 2011 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

You are what your record says you are

Thank you Bill Parcells.

"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King

by duck on Sep 22, 2011 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Detroit's record says they are way better than they really are.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Sep 22, 2011 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's been a pretty good week or so

Winning, even a little winning streak, makes all the difference in the world. I guess it helps that these games have playoff implications. Honestly, last week I was so tired of the Orioles that I actually gave up tickets to last Saturday’s game vs. LAA. The game where they scored five in the first inning and Reynolds got his head stoved but still got back on his feet. I.E. an awesome game that I ended up following via Gameday and should have gone to.

tl,dr: O’s games have been fun recently, not so much before about ten days ago.

by PhilR8 on Sep 22, 2011 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

wow, the o's usually underperform in comparison to their pythag.

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Sep 22, 2011 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don't know if the audio is up for it yet

But:

Michael K. Williams on Q on CBC

It’s really hard to read that damned site to know where to click.

"Human beings make life so interesting. Do you know, that in a universe so full of wonders, they have managed to invent boredom?" ~ Death

by NSOsFan on Sep 22, 2011 11:17 AM EDT reply actions  

Billy Rowell, not doing himself any favors:

http://www.masnsports.com/steve_melewski/2011/09/after-another-tough-season-billy-rowell-has-a-few-things-to-say.html

“Not really. I was supposed to go to Florida for two weeks according to (director of player development) John Stockstill. Two weeks in Florida and then come back to Bowie. That was the plan. I was good (healthy) after two weeks, then they brought up the guy they traded for Derrek Lee, what’s his name, Baker.

“They bring him up and he gets dominated in Double-A. The game was way too fast for him. You know what I mean. They bring him up so it looks like the Derrek Lee trade was a good trade and they diss the guy they gave $2 million dollars to. It’s cool, it’s their business. But I don’t feel like it was carried out in the right manner.

“If I gave anyone $2 million dollars, I would give them the highest resources possibly available and the most knowledge possibly available,” Rowell said.

"Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs." -- Earl Weaver

by Vuff on Sep 22, 2011 11:23 AM EDT reply actions  

Who cares? He's a nobody, another wasted pick.

War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Vlad is good.

by J(O's)elskIL on Sep 22, 2011 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

If I gave someone $2 million, I'd want something FOR it, Billy.

"Human beings make life so interesting. Do you know, that in a universe so full of wonders, they have managed to invent boredom?" ~ Death

by NSOsFan on Sep 22, 2011 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

What a fucking idiot.

For a first round pick, I’d want somebody who can actually play baseball, Billy. Also, his grammar skillz are about as poor as his baseball ability.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Sep 22, 2011 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sometimes you just don't even know what to say.

This is one of those times.

"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP

by Eat More Esskay on Sep 22, 2011 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Wow fuck off dude

Seriously don’t bother showing up in the spring.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Sep 22, 2011 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

i like how he trashes baker.

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Sep 22, 2011 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

he probably told billy,

I wasn’t too fast for your sister.

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Sep 22, 2011 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not sure if everybody's already seen this, but I found it hilarious

http://www.fangraphs.com/not/index.php/peter-gammons-five-best-pocket-tweets/

http://www.fangraphs.com/not/index.php/five-more-pocket-tweets-from-peter-gammons/

Apparently he tweeted this yesterday:

.ladamad Anna v v V V V V v v v V V V V V V v nv In buns ee V Petty’s Freefallin’…

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Sep 22, 2011 12:17 PM EDT reply actions  

New post

Review of the 2011 Frederick Keys here

If you look at those UZR ratings or whatever

by dfa on Sep 22, 2011 12:24 PM EDT reply actions  

Not to bring this up again, but this is funny.

In the article on Yahoo that says Vick might face the Giants….there are some golden entries in the comment section.

This Just In…..

HONKS ARE INTIMIDATED BY PEOPLE LIKE VICK. I would rather be a felon than being a hateful crakkker

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Sep 22, 2011 12:29 PM EDT reply actions  

lol you're just a hateful crakker dude

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Sep 22, 2011 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

hahah yep!

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Sep 22, 2011 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh yea.

Very important.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Sep 22, 2011 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lucky for him...

he is more likely to be a felon than a hateful crakkker, so congrats anonymous internet guy!

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Sep 22, 2011 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Things are so bad in fantasy I'm STARTING Roy Helu in my flex.

Yahoo projects he’ll get me 3 points.

I have Arian Foster/Stephen Jackson/Colston/Sidney Rice on my bench. Oy vey.

Roy freakin Helu ladies and gentlemen.

Will work for Recs.

by Wieters Wieners on Sep 22, 2011 12:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Oh yeah, and Jamaal Charles

I actually named my team “The Infirmary” this week.

It’s really eating me up.

Will work for Recs.

by Wieters Wieners on Sep 22, 2011 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rice full practiced yesterday

there saying there’s a good chance he can keep playing this year even with the torn labrum

carolina in my mind...

by Gamecock24 on Sep 22, 2011 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's pretty worthless at this point. With Tavaris throwing to him and little running game AND banged up.

I’m just gonna drop him and grab David Nelson.

Look out for THAT guy in the coming weeks.

Will work for Recs.

by Wieters Wieners on Sep 22, 2011 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

don't blame you for making that

i’m gonna wait until he at least gets out on the field before i make a decision. he is my boy after all

carolina in my mind...

by Gamecock24 on Sep 22, 2011 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm working my ass off trying to find value to replace all my injured jerks with.

I picked up: David Nelson, Denarius Moore and Roy Helu this week.

Grasping at straws, but hopefully one of them has some homerun potential. Also, I had Evan Moore but just ditched him for Greg freakin Olsen.

Not my year brah.

Will work for Recs.

by Wieters Wieners on Sep 22, 2011 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm no expert on fantasy

In fact I don’t know a fucking thing about it, but all I know is that you’re not going to get huge games out of Shanahan running backs. He doesn’t believe in a feature back.

"Dyslexia?? It's DCO." - WestcoastO'sfan

by DCO'sfan on Sep 22, 2011 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Random Baltimore connection story

Wrestlecrap inducts Art Donovan

Although it might not work next update.

"Human beings make life so interesting. Do you know, that in a universe so full of wonders, they have managed to invent boredom?" ~ Death

by NSOsFan on Sep 22, 2011 12:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Time out for beauty

Watch this new Air France commercial.

Then watch how they made it.

Pretty cool stuff.

"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and a little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott

by zknower on Sep 22, 2011 12:50 PM EDT reply actions  

I bet that mirror was really fucking hot to stand on

also, I’m really impressed by that lift, I figured there must’ve been a harness.

Tommy hunter still sucks!

by Steve. on Sep 22, 2011 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thought this was pretty cool

http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,2093533,00.html

my alma mater is becoming the first American university to open a central African campus.

by kba26 on Sep 22, 2011 1:11 PM EDT reply actions  

mine was mistaken for an african school...

remember, kids: kenyon is not near uganda!

"the secret to a happy ending is knowing when to roll the credits"

by j.q. higgins on Sep 22, 2011 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

also note...

in today’s celebration pic, angle again has more ups than jones and markakis.

"the secret to a happy ending is knowing when to roll the credits"

by j.q. higgins on Sep 22, 2011 1:44 PM EDT reply actions  

I dunno.

Markakis is leaning forward so it looks like he might actually have the most ups there.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Sep 22, 2011 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

because it's quite obvious

that the picture was taken at the peak of each of their jumps and they timed their jumps just so they’d peak at the same time in an effort to measure their ups against one another’s in the following morning’s edition of Bird Droppings.

Tommy hunter still sucks!

by Steve. on Sep 22, 2011 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

so after all the B-Rob talk today, i went over to good old youtube and found this clip that just got put up

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0iCWrUxYrE

it’s only a minute long, but it’s him talking about his recovery from the concussion. it’s actually kind of depressing to listen to him talk about it.

carolina in my mind...

by Gamecock24 on Sep 22, 2011 1:56 PM EDT reply actions  

man, that's a real bummer.

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Sep 22, 2011 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ugh that's awful

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Sep 22, 2011 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

New logos

Just saw these:

New Miami Marlins logo

New Blue Jays logo

Jays logo looks good, Marlins looks bad.

by PhilR8 on Sep 22, 2011 3:37 PM EDT reply actions  

I like the way the Marlins one kept the old fish shape.

But I think the M and the color choice are both pretty hideous.

"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP

by Eat More Esskay on Sep 22, 2011 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think the Jays one is stupid as well

It looks like the Blue Jay has a flower behind his ear like a Hawaiian lady

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Sep 22, 2011 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

the marlins logo is AWFUL that I might actually like it after a few months.

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Sep 22, 2011 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Jays logo

looks to be a pretty simple combination of the 77-96 logo and the 97-02 logo (check ‘em out here). I think it works. The Miami Marlins logo is straight out of an episode of Miami Vice, so I guess it’s supposed to be tacky. Well, mission accomplished.

by PhilR8 on Sep 22, 2011 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh I see.

I have only been baseball-aware for the newest logo, and it seems to have tried to be a gritty reboot of their old logo. I guess classic is better.

(Bring back the cartoon bird…)

by DaveAA on Sep 22, 2011 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Marlins logo looks dumb.

Toronto is basically going back to their old logo. They seem to have something new all the time.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Sep 22, 2011 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm reading around the web

and the current “Angry J” logo seems to be despised by the majority of Jays fan comments that I’m encountering. Personally, I think anything would be better than their current logo.

by PhilR8 on Sep 22, 2011 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Marlins logo takes me back to clown school

er wait.

"Human beings make life so interesting. Do you know, that in a universe so full of wonders, they have managed to invent boredom?" ~ Death

by NSOsFan on Sep 22, 2011 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

from K-Law's chat

on Wieters’ late season surge:

Klaw (2:11 PM)
September hot streaks are often illusory, since the level of competition drops with roster expansion. But I remain a believer in Wieters long-term.

on the Bill Rowell story that was discussed earlier:

Klaw(2:12 PM)
It was pretty special. I want to cut him some slack – his dream is dying before his eyes – but, um, discretion is cool too.

discretion is cool too brah

carolina in my mind...

by Gamecock24 on Sep 22, 2011 3:53 PM EDT reply actions  

His dream is dying before his eyes because he sucks.

Not because of other people.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Sep 22, 2011 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

What level of competition dropped

while playing exclusively teams that are trying to make the playoffs? It’s not like they’ve been playing intrasquad games or split squads this month.

"Tiger got to hunt, bird got to fly; Man got to sit and wonder 'why, why, why?' Tiger got to sleep, bird got to land; Man got to tell himself he understand.."

by tflach2 on Sep 22, 2011 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Even the playoff teams are giving time to some September callups, though.

Particularly in middle relief type situations.

"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP

by Eat More Esskay on Sep 22, 2011 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah but still the only games we have this month against non playoff contending teams

is 4 against the jays.

If it was the indians and the M’s and the twins and such then maybe.

by DaveAA on Sep 22, 2011 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ehhhh

I think only the teams that have made or are very likely making the playoffs are using callups in non-meaningless situations.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Sep 22, 2011 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Really just the Rays

but they basically gave up weeks ago, and the Red Sox won’t let them just die.

Matt Moore is starting today in Yankee Stadium, in a must win game. I’m sure that’s going to end well.

"Tiger got to hunt, bird got to fly; Man got to sit and wonder 'why, why, why?' Tiger got to sleep, bird got to land; Man got to tell himself he understand.."

by tflach2 on Sep 22, 2011 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Matt Moore is an absolute stud.

Don’t totaly write him off.

Mother, did it need to be so high.

by salvotion on Sep 22, 2011 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think he'll end up being great (mostly because he's not our stud young pitcher)

but I think that making your first major league start in Yankee Stadium with a playoff spot on the line is not a recipe for success.

"Tiger got to hunt, bird got to fly; Man got to sit and wonder 'why, why, why?' Tiger got to sleep, bird got to land; Man got to tell himself he understand.."

by tflach2 on Sep 22, 2011 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree that it's a really tough assignment for Moore.

But I would have to believe that the Rays think he is the best guy to pitch at this point through their rotation, despite Moore’s inexperience. His stuff is really good.

Mother, did it need to be so high.

by salvotion on Sep 22, 2011 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Yanks have pretty much clinched the #1 spot and might not mind sticking it to the Red Sox either.

They might just decide to rest some guys and throw out the scrubs.

"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP

by Eat More Esskay on Sep 22, 2011 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

i can't find the link to his new chat today

i hate espn’s website. there’s a link for his chats, but it took me to his chat last week.

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Sep 22, 2011 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

found it!

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Sep 22, 2011 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mike S (CT)

Keith, I’m sure that you’re wont to avoid commenting on spoilers, but I just have to know – at the end of Moneyball, do the A’s and their band of scrappy misfits win the division and keep the franchise from being moved to Miami?
Klaw (1:34 PM)

The movie ends as the spreadsheet becomes self-aware.

That;s pretty damn funny. Can’t wait to see Moneyball tomorrow.

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Sep 22, 2011 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's really very good.

It actually ends by polishing the redsox balls and kissing them tenderly.

by DaveAA on Sep 22, 2011 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

There's definitely no one here who lives in Houston, right?

I have 4 club tickets to tonight’s game and I can’t find anyone who wants to go with me. I like to think it’s just the fact that the Astros are terrible and people are busy…I guess I have to start contending with the notion that people just don’t like me.

Just because you know how to read, doesn't mean you'll like the book.

by arlingtonOsFan on Sep 22, 2011 3:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Damn....I'd go with you if I was in Houston.

Unfortunately, I’m right in the fuckin’ middle of DC.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Sep 22, 2011 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wahoowa...

I only know one other kid from our year (our whole school even) who lives down here… the rest are all “right in the fuckin’ middle of DC”

Just because you know how to read, doesn't mean you'll like the book.

by arlingtonOsFan on Sep 22, 2011 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

My brother is flying in to houston as we speak.

But I think he has plans/ isn’t very big on baseball.

by DaveAA on Sep 22, 2011 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

How crazy is the PHN FO going?

They tried to get Chris Capuano from the Mets, just for the rest of the season

"Human beings make life so interesting. Do you know, that in a universe so full of wonders, they have managed to invent boredom?" ~ Death

by NSOsFan on Sep 22, 2011 5:47 PM EDT reply actions  

THE SKY IS FALLING!!!!!!!!!!!!

Time to blow up the whole team and start rebuilding.

Mother, did it need to be so high.

by salvotion on Sep 22, 2011 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

So you're saying time travel is possible...

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Sep 22, 2011 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, time travel would already be possible according to relativity.

Only into the future, though. It should also be noted that, as far as I know, other scientists haven’t confirmed this yet, so we’ll just have to wait.

by ahoque24 on Sep 22, 2011 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hope the results are correct.

Not only would it be really interesting to watch the scientific community sink its teeth into finding out why, but it might mean we actually could figure out some type of FTL drive and travel to other star systems.

by owllover711 on Sep 23, 2011 3:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

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