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OriolesHangout.com - Orioles win late in Boston again, 6-4
The O’s seemed to be on their way to an unexciting loss in the finale, trailing by three runs in the sixth against a cruising Josh Beckett, but for the second night in a row they rallied late to send shock waves through the Fenway crowd. Mark Reynolds blasted a pair of homeruns, including a game-tying two-run shot in the seventh, and Vladimir Guerrero’s go-ahead two-run single in the eighth secured the Birds’ third straight series win.
Orioles Buzz: Daniel Moroz: Matusz's nosedive has been historically horrible
Matusz, mercifully, does not have the worst ERA ever when you compare it to the league average, though (and adjust for ballpark). Here are the top (or, I suppose, bottom) five (minimum 40 innings pitched):
Amber Theoharis: O's can't rely on home-grown pitching for 2012
The Orioles must go after a marquee free agent pitcher this offseason. I'm not talking a middle-of-the-road veteran in his late 30s with a career ERA near 5.00. I'm talking a legitimate ace who can be the stopper every fifth day.
Orioles starter Tommy Hunter strains groin; hopes to make next start | orioles.com: News
"It got pretty tight," said Hunter, who left after Mike Aviles grounded out. "It was one of those things, been lingering around all year. It got really tight and it was just one of those things. I needed to come out."
Orioles-Tigers Preview - Sep. 22, 2011 - MLB - CBSSports.com
The Baltimore Orioles hope to use a recent surge against some of the AL's top teams as a springboard to a possible playoff run next season. HAHAHAHAHAHAAH
This Date in Baseball | Richmond Times-Dispatch
1966 — The Baltimore Orioles clinched their first AL pennant in 22 years with a 6-1 victory over the Kansas City A's.
Buck Showalter inflates Jim Johnson’s value | Through The Fence Baseball
Showalter supposedly toyed with the idea of using Johnson as a starter over the season’s final month. He’s clearly thought better of that plan and is now employing Johnson in a way that maximizes his current talent and long term value. I expect to hear Johnson’s name swirl in trade talks this Winter as Baltimore seeks starting pitching and long term options at third base, second base and left field.
Orioles rookie Ryan Adams to undergo sports hernia surgery soon | orioles.com:
Adams has been dealing with the injury all season, although he initially thought it was a groin issue and was treating it as such while with Triple-A Norfolk. It was so painful at one point that Adams couldn't lift his leg out of bed one day, and an MRI about two weeks ago revealed a tear in the area and confirmed it was a sports hernia.
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So, who is the 2012 2B starter for the O's?
Adams, Andino, or Roberts (yeah right)?
If BriBob is out, I hope Adams takes 2B while Andino is at 3B/ utility IF
War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Vlad is good.
I am hoping free agents from other teams
but I would live with Andino. I assume Reynolds/Davis will play 1B and DH and hopefully they can sign a FA to play 3B.
"Grow nothing, buy the 'Pen" (Wieters Weiners)
Which begs the question 'which FA 3B will be floating around this offseason'?
Accd. to MLBTR, 3B FA after this season:
Wilson Betemit (30)
Casey Blake (38) – $6MM club option with a $1.25MM buyout
Jorge Cantu (30)
Eric Chavez (34)
Craig Counsell (41)
Mark DeRosa (37)
Greg Dobbs (33)
Edwin Encarnacion (29) – $3.5MM club option with a $500K buyout
Jerry Hairston Jr. (36)
Omar Infante (30)
Felipe Lopez (32)
Jose Lopez (28)
Nick Punto (34)
Aramis Ramirez (34) – $16MM club option with a $2MM buyout; Ramirez can void
Omar Vizquel (45)
Ehh. A 41 year-old Craig Counsell to the Orioles, anyone??? :P
barf, dammit.
aarmis said he is going to test free agency. get him some roids!
"Grow nothing, buy the 'Pen" (Wieters Weiners)
Omar Vizquel?
Isn’t Juan Samuel available?
"I may make you feel, but I can't make you think." Ian Anderson
Edwin Encarnacion is having a great second half
I’m guessing the Jays will hang onto him
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Sep 22, 2011 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions
I hope they do.
If there’s one person who might match Reynolds’ horrendous D, it would be E5.
Mother, did it need to be so high.
I'm not
convinced that this team should sign any free agents and if they do they damn well better be impact free agents. 2B have any impact free agents available?
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
from MLBTR
Clint Barmes (33)
Willie Bloomquist (34) – $1.1MM mutual option with a $150K buyout
Orlando Cabrera (37)
Robinson Cano (29) – $14MM club option with a $2MM buyout
Jamey Carroll (37)
Alex Cora (36)
Craig Counsell (41)
Mark Ellis (35)
Jerry Hairston Jr. (36)
Bill Hall (32) – $4MM mutual option with a $250K buyout
Aaron Hill (30) – $8MM club option for 2012 and $8MM club option for ’13
Omar Infante (30)
Kelly Johnson (30)
Adam Kennedy (36)
Felipe Lopez (32)
Jose Lopez (28)
Aaron Miles (35)
Brandon Phillips (31) – $12MM club option with a $1MM buyout
Cano and Phillips are both going to have their options picked up, so other than that the list is pretty crappy looking.
carolina in my mind...
Yup
So let’s just save our money and draft picks and see what a full season of Adams, or Andino if Chris Davis can play 3rd, looks like.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
i would maybe be ok with taking a run at Kelly Johnson
i know it’s a SSS, but he’s put up decent numbers since coming over to the AL East (.369 OBP in about 100 PA)
carolina in my mind...
Def. the best plan. And who knows, maybe BriBob will return as good as ever
War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Vlad is good.
by J(O's)elskIL on Sep 22, 2011 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions
is roberts...
worth considering for a strictly offensive role if he can still play?
"the secret to a happy ending is knowing when to roll the credits"
by j.q. higgins on Sep 22, 2011 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions
DH? I don't know, I don't think so.
He won’t hit for a lot of power, but if he’s still the doubles machine he was before all the injuries, maybe?
My gut says no on this though.
War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Vlad is good.
by J(O's)elskIL on Sep 22, 2011 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions
well, doubles machine...
would be swell, but assuming he is still able to competently acquit himself at the plate, he is presently the under contract oriole most adept at getting on base. is a leadoff dh totally wacky?
"the secret to a happy ending is knowing when to roll the credits"
by j.q. higgins on Sep 22, 2011 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions
There's no reason a DH shouldn't bat leadoff.
If the DH is the right guy (Brian) than put him in there. It does raise the question if he should be the DH.
I’m assuming that you’re assuming that he will be able to bat but not field.
War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Vlad is good.
by J(O's)elskIL on Sep 22, 2011 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions
i'm not assuming...
just wondering.
"the secret to a happy ending is knowing when to roll the credits"
by j.q. higgins on Sep 22, 2011 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions
We can look at Morneau as an example of recovery from a concussion
or we could also look at Jason Bay. There’s no knowing how someone will come back. But the ability to bat (from what I’ve read) comes back before fielding, so there is a real chance that we see Brian as a DH next year and if he is back to himself at the plate, we’ll should have our DH leading off.
War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Vlad is good.
by J(O's)elskIL on Sep 22, 2011 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions
I wonder if Roberts could play 3B?
Less likely to get injured there.
"The key to winning baseball games is pitching, fundamentals, and three-run homers."
by ThreeRunHomer on Sep 22, 2011 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Doubt he has the arm for it.
"Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs." -- Earl Weaver
He was primarily a SS through the minors and college
I’m sure he could handle it, but I don’t see that much of a reason to think he’d be less likely to get injured there.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Maybe not less likely, but it might be less strenuous.
War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Vlad is good.
by J(O's)elskIL on Sep 22, 2011 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions
I think the only factor
is not being slid into while turning double plays, but Brob never got hurt doing that that I can remember.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
I wonder if he could play left.
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Sep 22, 2011 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions
So he's in the path of all the line drives?
That’ll sure keep him healthy. :p
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Sep 22, 2011 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions
wasn't that the nasty injury in 2005?
"the secret to a happy ending is knowing when to roll the credits"
by j.q. higgins on Sep 22, 2011 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions
No
that was covering first on a bunt and the throw pulled him into the runner.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
ah...
so nasty, though.
"the secret to a happy ending is knowing when to roll the credits"
by j.q. higgins on Sep 22, 2011 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah gross.
I still remember the look on his face – looked like a little kid getting injured and looking up at their parents for help.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
no man...
should ever have to see that sort of thing. or the theismann injury.
"the secret to a happy ending is knowing when to roll the credits"
by j.q. higgins on Sep 22, 2011 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions
None of his concussions occurred while playing 2B
One was hitting himself in the helmet with a bat, the other was a head-first slide into 1B as a runner. He could have been DH and done both.
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
He also could have been a non-dumbass and done neither.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
This is also true
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
by duck on Sep 22, 2011 4:07 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I think it'll be BriBob
but who starts the other 159 games is a guessing game at this point
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
by daveh873 on Sep 22, 2011 8:55 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
rec'd for truth.
"the secret to a happy ending is knowing when to roll the credits"
by j.q. higgins on Sep 22, 2011 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions
Swift Boat Recs for Truth
"Real Orioles don't pout. Real Orioles don't gloat. Real Orioles just win."
by NewYorkOriole on Sep 22, 2011 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions
rec yourself...
before you wreck yourself?
"the secret to a happy ending is knowing when to roll the credits"
by j.q. higgins on Sep 22, 2011 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions
Please rec...................................
…………………………………responsibly
"Real Orioles don't pout. Real Orioles don't gloat. Real Orioles just win."
by NewYorkOriole on Sep 22, 2011 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions
If we go Adams and Andino as infield starters
then we might as well blow the team up completely. Which actually might not be a horrendous idea, you know…
Jim: Why?
Gary: I don't know why.
Let's do it
Rebuild around Machado/Bundy, haha… I want to get off this ride.
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Sep 22, 2011 9:15 AM EDT up reply actions
I won't go through my usual rhetoric
suffice it to say that if the Orioles aren’t already planning to (re)build around Machado and Bundy, they’re in worst trouble than we all realize
Jim: Why?
Gary: I don't know why.
I basically agree,
but how completely are we talking? Jones and Markakis seem like obvious trades: the former because he may be our best trade chip, and the latter because he looks like he’s going to be rather overpaid shortly. Reynolds, Scott (if we tender him), Guthrie, and Johnson are probably all okay (not great, just okay) value-wise, but should probably go, too. We’ve got Hardy on a pretty team-friendly deal and he seems to have a no-trade handshake deal for this offseason, but he could be a valuable piece in theory.
But what about the younger guys who haven’t hit arbitration yet? Matusz and Tillman probably have so little trade value right now that we might as well hang onto them and hope they figure it out. I assume we keep Britton… but do we keep Wieters and Arrieta?
"Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs." -- Earl Weaver
Nobody's gonna want Markakis, so we shouldn't even worry about trading him.
Anybody else who can bring back real value is somebody we ought to look at trading though.
And real value doesn’t just mean a couple guys who put on a major league uniform before. I’m still not convinced the O’s got real value for Koji.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Sep 22, 2011 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions
Hint: they didn't.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Sep 22, 2011 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions
i'm just going to leave this down here
http://jezebel.com/5842538/baltimore-supermarket-deemed-best-place-for-ladies-hot-butts
carolina in my mind...
mmm ladies hot butts.
Of course, I’m not opening this link at work.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Sep 22, 2011 9:21 AM EDT up reply actions
it's SFW
it’s just a story about how the Baltimore City Paper did their “Best of Baltimore” edition and the Safeway in Canton got voted best place to check out hot girls cause they’re all wearing yoga pants
carolina in my mind...
This is absolutely true
Every damn girl in that place is smokin hot. There’s a better selection there than there is at the bars at night.
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Sep 22, 2011 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Shit....
Guess I gotta start hitting up Safeway. I’m usually more of a Wegman’s shopper though.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Sep 22, 2011 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions
It's not the name, it's the location
The store’s pretty dirty by Whole Foods and Wegmans standards. Canton is an oasis of young beautiful 20-something yuppies and rich housewives.
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Sep 22, 2011 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Heh...I was just making a joke (corny, I know)
I really should check this place out though. I like beautiful 20-somethings.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Sep 22, 2011 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions
You have Wegmans in Baltimore?!
I had no idea they’d expanded down that far. I live 2 minutes from their headquarters in Rochester and I still remember when Wegmans was strictly local, and not even the top supermarket in the area. And I’m not even that old, either.
the wegmans in hunt valley...
is ridiculous.
"the secret to a happy ending is knowing when to roll the credits"
by j.q. higgins on Sep 23, 2011 8:41 AM EDT up reply actions
I work at whole foods
and I look at woman’s butts in yoga pants ALL DAMN DAY AFTER DAY…haha
The stock market will never recover, our armies will never again be #1, and our children will drink filthy water for the rest of their lives - HST
by the fix is in on Sep 22, 2011 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions
Damn...some of the picks this week are giving me fits.
Detroit @ Minnesota, Miami @ Cleveland
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
NYJ @ Oakland sucks too.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Sep 22, 2011 9:24 AM EDT up reply actions
lots of shitty teams beating up on each other
well, except for Detroit, i think that they’re legit
carolina in my mind...
I think Minny could surprise them.
NYJ always seem to suck in Oakland, but Oakland sucks in Oakland too. In fact, they suck outside of Oakland too.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Sep 22, 2011 9:29 AM EDT up reply actions
At the risk of starting a debate about capital punishment...
Rest in peace Troy Davis, who very well could have been innocent. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: I’d spare the lives of 100,000 guilty men if it meant one innocent man wouldn’t be executed.
"Dyslexia?? It's DCO." - WestcoastO'sfan
not on here.
But I’m staunchly anti-death penalty. And I’ve said it a lot.
"Dyslexia?? It's DCO." - WestcoastO'sfan
gay people, sarah palin, bike lanes
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Sep 22, 2011 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions
international scouting, vlad's average, brian matusz/nick markakis skinny arms
carolina in my mind...
by Gamecock24 on Sep 22, 2011 9:39 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
The Wire
"Human beings make life so interesting. Do you know, that in a universe so full of wonders, they have managed to invent boredom?" ~ Death
2011 Mobbies.
WHO. WILL. OWN. IT?
"Tiger got to hunt, bird got to fly; Man got to sit and wonder 'why, why, why?' Tiger got to sleep, bird got to land; Man got to tell himself he understand.."
lawn. your removal from it.
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and a little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
by zknower on Sep 22, 2011 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
WERE YOU THERE
When CC won the Mobbies again?
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Sep 22, 2011 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions
Let's not go counting our chickens before the eggs hatch.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Sep 22, 2011 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions
Dude...we've already rigged the system again.
All of the votes have been bought and paid for.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Sep 22, 2011 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions
They already held the Iowa straw poll.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Sep 22, 2011 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions
Inconclusive. Going to the Nebraska corn poll.
"Human beings make life so interesting. Do you know, that in a universe so full of wonders, they have managed to invent boredom?" ~ Death
Who's counting the votes?
Katherine Harris? Ken Blackwell? Joseph Stalin?
"If you don't like the effect, don't produce the cause."
- George Clinton
Wait
I thought CC had MOOBIES.
Oh, CamdenChat, nevermind.
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Sep 22, 2011 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Looks like I won the topic baiting game.
I always knew I was a master baiter.
"Tiger got to hunt, bird got to fly; Man got to sit and wonder 'why, why, why?' Tiger got to sleep, bird got to land; Man got to tell himself he understand.."
I did some baking the other day.
I’m a master baker.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Sep 22, 2011 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions
I've ridden ALL the lanes
I’m a master biker.
"Human beings make life so interesting. Do you know, that in a universe so full of wonders, they have managed to invent boredom?" ~ Death
I'm Andy Pettitte
I’m a master balker.
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and a little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
I'm Silky Johnson
I’m a master hater.
"Human beings make life so interesting. Do you know, that in a universe so full of wonders, they have managed to invent boredom?" ~ Death
oh, amber...
so the o’s need to go after a legit ace like c.j. wilson or mark buehrle? uh, pass.
"the secret to a happy ending is knowing when to roll the credits"
you know what?
the team’s gonna suck for awhile. might as well blow PGA’s cash on some legit fun players to watch. Buehrle’s fun to watch. maybe he can win 7 or 8 games!
Tommy hunter still sucks!
is he?
i always think of buehrle as boring, but effective.
and there MAY be a pun in there.
"the secret to a happy ending is knowing when to roll the credits"
by j.q. higgins on Sep 22, 2011 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Um... 17 is more like it.
I’m a senior in high school, not a freshman :)
"Dyslexia?? It's DCO." - WestcoastO'sfan
despite all the bullshit...
this team might end up w/ a slightly better record than last year’s team and could end up modestly outpacing its pythag record. of course, this is cold comfort when you’re talking about a 90+ loss team and probably says something about murphy’s law and the folly of trying to build an 81 win team.
"the secret to a happy ending is knowing when to roll the credits"
draft implications?
false hope?
"the secret to a happy ending is knowing when to roll the credits"
by j.q. higgins on Sep 22, 2011 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions
it isn't bad news either
it just is. And it’s always the best thing to point to when you look at true performance level.
Anyway, there’s no way to spin a slight improvement in record or run differential as a positive. This team stinks, and it stunk last year, and it looks like it’ll stink next year, too.
Jim: Why?
Gary: I don't know why.
sure there is!
how credible the spin is is an entirely different matter.
but, yes…this could very well be another stinky team next year.
"the secret to a happy ending is knowing when to roll the credits"
by j.q. higgins on Sep 22, 2011 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions
I think that's the biggest difference to me
from this year to last year.
Last year, we had an awesome August and September. And it was all on the backs of our promising young pitching.
This year we are having an awesome September. And it’s all in spite of our horrendous starting pitching.
Last year was full of hope, this year we are just fucking with the Red Sox. Which is fun, but full of sound an fury, signifying nothing.
"Tiger got to hunt, bird got to fly; Man got to sit and wonder 'why, why, why?' Tiger got to sleep, bird got to land; Man got to tell himself he understand.."
by tflach2 on Sep 22, 2011 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
No if it's by a lot, but a little shows just a bit of good fortune in close games.
War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Vlad is good.
by J(O's)elskIL on Sep 22, 2011 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions
You are what your record says you are
Thank you Bill Parcells.
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Detroit's record says they are way better than they really are.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Sep 22, 2011 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions
It's been a pretty good week or so
Winning, even a little winning streak, makes all the difference in the world. I guess it helps that these games have playoff implications. Honestly, last week I was so tired of the Orioles that I actually gave up tickets to last Saturday’s game vs. LAA. The game where they scored five in the first inning and Reynolds got his head stoved but still got back on his feet. I.E. an awesome game that I ended up following via Gameday and should have gone to.
tl,dr: O’s games have been fun recently, not so much before about ten days ago.
wow, the o's usually underperform in comparison to their pythag.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
Don't know if the audio is up for it yet
But:
Michael K. Williams on Q on CBC
It’s really hard to read that damned site to know where to click.
"Human beings make life so interesting. Do you know, that in a universe so full of wonders, they have managed to invent boredom?" ~ Death
Billy Rowell, not doing himself any favors:
“Not really. I was supposed to go to Florida for two weeks according to (director of player development) John Stockstill. Two weeks in Florida and then come back to Bowie. That was the plan. I was good (healthy) after two weeks, then they brought up the guy they traded for Derrek Lee, what’s his name, Baker.
“They bring him up and he gets dominated in Double-A. The game was way too fast for him. You know what I mean. They bring him up so it looks like the Derrek Lee trade was a good trade and they diss the guy they gave $2 million dollars to. It’s cool, it’s their business. But I don’t feel like it was carried out in the right manner.
“If I gave anyone $2 million dollars, I would give them the highest resources possibly available and the most knowledge possibly available,” Rowell said.
"Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs." -- Earl Weaver
Who cares? He's a nobody, another wasted pick.
War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Vlad is good.
by J(O's)elskIL on Sep 22, 2011 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
If I gave someone $2 million, I'd want something FOR it, Billy.
"Human beings make life so interesting. Do you know, that in a universe so full of wonders, they have managed to invent boredom?" ~ Death
by NSOsFan on Sep 22, 2011 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
What a fucking idiot.
For a first round pick, I’d want somebody who can actually play baseball, Billy. Also, his grammar skillz are about as poor as his baseball ability.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Sep 22, 2011 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions
Sometimes you just don't even know what to say.
This is one of those times.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Sep 22, 2011 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions
Wow fuck off dude
Seriously don’t bother showing up in the spring.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
by O'sFan21 on Sep 22, 2011 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Haha... Baker's all "What the eff dude?"
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Sep 22, 2011 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions
he probably told billy,
I wasn’t too fast for your sister.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
Not sure if everybody's already seen this, but I found it hilarious
http://www.fangraphs.com/not/index.php/peter-gammons-five-best-pocket-tweets/
http://www.fangraphs.com/not/index.php/five-more-pocket-tweets-from-peter-gammons/
Apparently he tweeted this yesterday:
.ladamad Anna v v V V V V v v v V V V V V V v nv In buns ee V Petty’s Freefallin’…
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Not to bring this up again, but this is funny.
In the article on Yahoo that says Vick might face the Giants….there are some golden entries in the comment section.
This Just In…..
HONKS ARE INTIMIDATED BY PEOPLE LIKE VICK. I would rather be a felon than being a hateful crakkker
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
hahah yep!
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Sep 22, 2011 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh yea.
Very important.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Sep 22, 2011 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Lucky for him...
he is more likely to be a felon than a hateful crakkker, so congrats anonymous internet guy!
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
Things are so bad in fantasy I'm STARTING Roy Helu in my flex.
Yahoo projects he’ll get me 3 points.
I have Arian Foster/Stephen Jackson/Colston/Sidney Rice on my bench. Oy vey.
Roy freakin Helu ladies and gentlemen.
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Sep 22, 2011 12:37 PM EDT reply actions
Oh yeah, and Jamaal Charles
I actually named my team “The Infirmary” this week.
It’s really eating me up.
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Sep 22, 2011 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Rice full practiced yesterday
there saying there’s a good chance he can keep playing this year even with the torn labrum
carolina in my mind...
He's pretty worthless at this point. With Tavaris throwing to him and little running game AND banged up.
I’m just gonna drop him and grab David Nelson.
Look out for THAT guy in the coming weeks.
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Sep 22, 2011 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions
don't blame you for making that
i’m gonna wait until he at least gets out on the field before i make a decision. he is my boy after all
carolina in my mind...
I'm working my ass off trying to find value to replace all my injured jerks with.
I picked up: David Nelson, Denarius Moore and Roy Helu this week.
Grasping at straws, but hopefully one of them has some homerun potential. Also, I had Evan Moore but just ditched him for Greg freakin Olsen.
Not my year brah.
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Sep 22, 2011 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm no expert on fantasy
In fact I don’t know a fucking thing about it, but all I know is that you’re not going to get huge games out of Shanahan running backs. He doesn’t believe in a feature back.
"Dyslexia?? It's DCO." - WestcoastO'sfan
And I should also say that Helu has the potential to have huge games, but Shanahan won't let him.
"Dyslexia?? It's DCO." - WestcoastO'sfan
Random Baltimore connection story
Wrestlecrap inducts Art Donovan
Although it might not work next update.
"Human beings make life so interesting. Do you know, that in a universe so full of wonders, they have managed to invent boredom?" ~ Death
Art (anticipating the global ramifications from Tatanka’s loss): "Hey Randy, dere’s gonna be a lotta American Indians mad!"
I love that he repeatedly asked how much every wrestler weighed. Good stuff.
Time out for beauty
Watch this new Air France commercial.
Then watch how they made it.
Pretty cool stuff.
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and a little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
I bet that mirror was really fucking hot to stand on
also, I’m really impressed by that lift, I figured there must’ve been a harness.
Tommy hunter still sucks!
Thought this was pretty cool
http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,2093533,00.html
my alma mater is becoming the first American university to open a central African campus.
mine was mistaken for an african school...
remember, kids: kenyon is not near uganda!
"the secret to a happy ending is knowing when to roll the credits"
by j.q. higgins on Sep 22, 2011 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions
also note...
in today’s celebration pic, angle again has more ups than jones and markakis.
"the secret to a happy ending is knowing when to roll the credits"
I dunno.
Markakis is leaning forward so it looks like he might actually have the most ups there.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Sep 22, 2011 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions
because it's quite obvious
that the picture was taken at the peak of each of their jumps and they timed their jumps just so they’d peak at the same time in an effort to measure their ups against one another’s in the following morning’s edition of Bird Droppings.
Tommy hunter still sucks!
I've never quite understand what a strained groin is nor do I ever want to know.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
so after all the B-Rob talk today, i went over to good old youtube and found this clip that just got put up
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0iCWrUxYrE
it’s only a minute long, but it’s him talking about his recovery from the concussion. it’s actually kind of depressing to listen to him talk about it.
carolina in my mind...
God. He sounds devastated. That was depressing just to watch.
War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Vlad is good.
by J(O's)elskIL on Sep 23, 2011 3:30 AM EDT up reply actions
Interview with Matt Klentak
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2011/09/gm-candidate-matt-klentak.html
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
I like the way the Marlins one kept the old fish shape.
But I think the M and the color choice are both pretty hideous.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Sep 22, 2011 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions
I think the Jays one is stupid as well
It looks like the Blue Jay has a flower behind his ear like a Hawaiian lady
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
the marlins logo is AWFUL that I might actually like it after a few months.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
The Jays logo
looks to be a pretty simple combination of the 77-96 logo and the 97-02 logo (check ‘em out here). I think it works. The Miami Marlins logo is straight out of an episode of Miami Vice, so I guess it’s supposed to be tacky. Well, mission accomplished.
Marlins logo looks dumb.
Toronto is basically going back to their old logo. They seem to have something new all the time.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Sep 22, 2011 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm reading around the web
and the current “Angry J” logo seems to be despised by the majority of Jays fan comments that I’m encountering. Personally, I think anything would be better than their current logo.
Marlins logo takes me back to clown school
er wait.
"Human beings make life so interesting. Do you know, that in a universe so full of wonders, they have managed to invent boredom?" ~ Death
from K-Law's chat
on Wieters’ late season surge:
Klaw (2:11 PM)
September hot streaks are often illusory, since the level of competition drops with roster expansion. But I remain a believer in Wieters long-term.
on the Bill Rowell story that was discussed earlier:
Klaw(2:12 PM)
It was pretty special. I want to cut him some slack – his dream is dying before his eyes – but, um, discretion is cool too.
discretion is cool too brah
carolina in my mind...
His dream is dying before his eyes because he sucks.
Not because of other people.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Sep 22, 2011 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions
What level of competition dropped
while playing exclusively teams that are trying to make the playoffs? It’s not like they’ve been playing intrasquad games or split squads this month.
"Tiger got to hunt, bird got to fly; Man got to sit and wonder 'why, why, why?' Tiger got to sleep, bird got to land; Man got to tell himself he understand.."
Even the playoff teams are giving time to some September callups, though.
Particularly in middle relief type situations.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Sep 22, 2011 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah but still the only games we have this month against non playoff contending teams
is 4 against the jays.
If it was the indians and the M’s and the twins and such then maybe.
Really just the Rays
but they basically gave up weeks ago, and the Red Sox won’t let them just die.
Matt Moore is starting today in Yankee Stadium, in a must win game. I’m sure that’s going to end well.
"Tiger got to hunt, bird got to fly; Man got to sit and wonder 'why, why, why?' Tiger got to sleep, bird got to land; Man got to tell himself he understand.."
I think he'll end up being great (mostly because he's not our stud young pitcher)
but I think that making your first major league start in Yankee Stadium with a playoff spot on the line is not a recipe for success.
"Tiger got to hunt, bird got to fly; Man got to sit and wonder 'why, why, why?' Tiger got to sleep, bird got to land; Man got to tell himself he understand.."
I agree that it's a really tough assignment for Moore.
But I would have to believe that the Rays think he is the best guy to pitch at this point through their rotation, despite Moore’s inexperience. His stuff is really good.
Mother, did it need to be so high.
The Yanks have pretty much clinched the #1 spot and might not mind sticking it to the Red Sox either.
They might just decide to rest some guys and throw out the scrubs.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Sep 22, 2011 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions
i can't find the link to his new chat today
i hate espn’s website. there’s a link for his chats, but it took me to his chat last week.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
Mike S (CT)
Keith, I’m sure that you’re wont to avoid commenting on spoilers, but I just have to know – at the end of Moneyball, do the A’s and their band of scrappy misfits win the division and keep the franchise from being moved to Miami?
Klaw (1:34 PM)
The movie ends as the spreadsheet becomes self-aware.
That;s pretty damn funny. Can’t wait to see Moneyball tomorrow.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
There's definitely no one here who lives in Houston, right?
I have 4 club tickets to tonight’s game and I can’t find anyone who wants to go with me. I like to think it’s just the fact that the Astros are terrible and people are busy…I guess I have to start contending with the notion that people just don’t like me.
Just because you know how to read, doesn't mean you'll like the book.
Damn....I'd go with you if I was in Houston.
Unfortunately, I’m right in the fuckin’ middle of DC.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Sep 22, 2011 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Wahoowa...
I only know one other kid from our year (our whole school even) who lives down here… the rest are all “right in the fuckin’ middle of DC”
Just because you know how to read, doesn't mean you'll like the book.
by arlingtonOsFan on Sep 22, 2011 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions
My brother is flying in to houston as we speak.
But I think he has plans/ isn’t very big on baseball.
How crazy is the PHN FO going?
They tried to get Chris Capuano from the Mets, just for the rest of the season
"Human beings make life so interesting. Do you know, that in a universe so full of wonders, they have managed to invent boredom?" ~ Death
THE SKY IS FALLING!!!!!!!!!!!!
Time to blow up the whole team and start rebuilding.
Mother, did it need to be so high.
So you're saying time travel is possible...
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
Well, time travel would already be possible according to relativity.
Only into the future, though. It should also be noted that, as far as I know, other scientists haven’t confirmed this yet, so we’ll just have to wait.
I hope the results are correct.
Not only would it be really interesting to watch the scientific community sink its teeth into finding out why, but it might mean we actually could figure out some type of FTL drive and travel to other star systems.

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