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Tigers 4, Orioles 3, Alfredo pitches well, Vladi doesn't run well

Detroit, MI - SEPTEMBER 23:  Making his case to be a starter in 2012...(Photo by Jorge Lemus/Getty Images)

On the final Friday of the 2011 season, the Detroit Tigers beat the Baltimore Orioles 4-3 in 11 innings in front of many people in Detroit.  The Orioles wasted a strong performance from the inconsistent Alfredo Simon, as he pitched 8 innings, giving up 3 earned runs on six hits and 1 walk, while striking out 5.

The Orioles started the scoring of Rick Porcello, as JJ Hardy scored on a two out double by Vlad Guerrero.  Over this week I've become convinced that Vlad has some bizarre clause where his salary doubles if he records 2 triples.  He means well, he was thrown out at 3rd on a 9-4-2-5.  Other than a contract incentive, why else would he be the third out at third base again?  I suppose nobody is who they used to be.  Anyway, staked to a one nil lead, the lead wouldn't last, as Miguel Cabrera dropped a 2 run bomb in the bottom of the first.  The Birds would battle back in the top of the 3rd, scoring two runs.  Robert Andino and Hardy would hit consecutive infield singles.  The runners moved up a base on a sacrifice fly, and Nick Markakis would drive in Andino on a sacrifice fly.  Following an unproductive Guerrero groundout, Matt Wieters would notch a two out RBI single bringing in Hardy.  In the bottom of the fifth, the Tigers would tie the game up after leadoff double from Jhonny Perarlta and a run scoring single from someone named Ramon Santiago.  

The game would move quickly along with few scoring opportunities until the eleventh inning.  In the visitor's half, Nick Markakis would smoke a ball into the right field corner for a double.  Guerrero was walked intentionally as if there were any other way, and the Orioles were in some business.  But Wieters would hit into a double play and Adam Jones would ground out to short, leaving it to the home half of the eleventh for some drama.  With Willie Eyre on the mound, Brandon Inge would draw a walk.  Delmon Young popped out to Wieters, but Miguel Cabrera would single on an 0-2 count, moving pinch runner Danny Worth to second.  Zach Phillips would relieve Eyre, but didn't fare much better as VIctor Martinez would line a shot that Brooks Robinson could have snared but Chris Davis did not, and Worth easily scored from second.  Orioles lose, 4-3. 

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moneyball

after waiting to see this movie for 3 years, i finally saw it and it was a bit of a let down. it’s good movie, but hardly anything great. definitely nowhere near best picture type of material or best actor stuff for pitt. i think i’m a bit too much of a baseball fan which hindered my enjoyment of the movie. the sabermetrics stuff is handled superficially and there are inaccuracies which, while expected, stood in the way of me enjoying the movie. the movies portrays the a’s becoming sabermetric all the sudden after the 2001 season which isn’t true. depodesta was hired before 2001 season and billy was paying attention to bill james before 2001. carlos pena is treated sort of strangely. he is portrayed as someone billy hated from the get go but i don’t think that was quite true. i think billy was quite enthusiastic about him at first but soured on him fast. the movie offers no drama or tension because i already know what’s going to happen. of course, i knew how warrior would end and i loved it. the flashbacks with billy and his playing days weren’t really needed. anyways, i would wait for the dvd.

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Sep 24, 2011 5:24 AM EDT reply actions  

Haven't seen Warrior yet...

but based on the great reviews, I was a bit stunned by its box office flop.

"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King

by duck on Sep 24, 2011 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

all this talk of warrior...

makes me think of:

"the secret to a happy ending is knowing when to roll the credits"

by j.q. higgins on Sep 24, 2011 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why were you excited about the movie?

Hasn’t it looked mediocre at best from the very first preview?

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Sep 24, 2011 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

not at all

trailer and clips looked great. not to mention, it’s getting great reviews. if i wasn’t a baseball fan, i think i would have enjoyed the move soooo much more. another thing i forgot to mention is that the movie portrays beane’s job in jeopardy during the 2002 season until the 20 game winning streak. i don’t remember this at ALL especially coming off a playoff appearance. but i suppose the movie needs dramatic tension for the iconoclast. i really think knowing what happened kind of ruined it for me. i kept thinking throughout the movie, well, here’s what really happened or here’s the nuance of the situation that the movie doesn’t capture and i kept finding the details of the story more interesting. soderbergh was going to make the movie more cerebral, which i would have liked a lot more. but i’m very much in the minority and sort of an odd viewer (not only i’m a huge movie fan, but i love data analytics and baseball, a rare combination in comparison to the general population) and i can see why they made the movie the way that they did.

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Sep 24, 2011 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

disclosure: i'm a huge michael lewis fan

but blind side got very good reviews also and i had no inclination to see that whatsoever. i’ll probably see moneyball, though i’m not expecting it to be very good.

"the secret to a happy ending is knowing when to roll the credits"

by j.q. higgins on Sep 24, 2011 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

The reception for The Blind Side wasn't nearly as good as it was for Moneyball, though.

Plus, I seriously doubt anyone would find Moneyball racially insensitive, unlike The Blind Side (the movie, not the book).

by ahoque24 on Sep 24, 2011 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

not my recollection...

on the former, not the latter, anyways.

"the secret to a happy ending is knowing when to roll the credits"

by j.q. higgins on Sep 24, 2011 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

i liked the blind side

and i have feeling that knowing nothing about football probably helped me like it because i just focused on enjoying the story instead of analyzing the factual/technical aspects.

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Sep 25, 2011 5:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

I've thought it looked really meh since the first preview.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Sep 24, 2011 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

True

Players, never, EVER go to third when a ball is thrown to the plate. They never take the base on a throw home. It simply doesn’t happen. Ever. I mean, what kind of dummy, with 2B in hand, even thinks he can go to third on a throw home?

What does he expect, that there will be a collision at the plate? That the catcher will block the plate? That the catcher will try to tag the runner going home? That, if the catcher mishandles the ball, it will not pop up right in front of him so he can throw to third, that instead it will roll away or be hard to pick up/find?

Like that ever happens. Remember kids, play it safe, once you get to a base stay there, never take advantage of the situation, just don’t try.

by dsciswe on Sep 24, 2011 12:02 PM EDT reply actions  

Well, it's not the kids who we need to worry about playing it safe.

It’s the old-ass men with weak-ass knees who don’t ever get on base except by base-hit, so maybe said old-ass man could at least do us the favor of staying on base on the infrequent occasion where he gets on base instead of getting himself erased before the play even concludes. That would be awesome.

"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP

by Eat More Esskay on Sep 24, 2011 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Essentially he robbed Matt Wieters of an opportunity with a runner in scoring position,

But I guess you are OK with that…

If you look at those UZR ratings or whatever

by dfa on Sep 24, 2011 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not to mention a chance to score a run which could have won us the game.

But yeah Vlad getting to third with 2 outs is more important than all of that.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Sep 24, 2011 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just putting pressure on the defense!!!!! Hustling!!!!!

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Sep 24, 2011 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm sorry

I did my usual mocking of your ridiculous felating of Vlad and defending even his completely idiotic decisions, but that was before reading your comment in full and now that I have I couldn’t resist responding to it in a serious manner. Your comment makes absolutely zero sense and you need to be informed of that. With 2 outs Vlad was ALREADY in scoring position – getting to third base gains him absolutely nothing since he’s slow as fuck he has no chance to score on a wild pitch or passed ball. So the risk that you seem to be implying was worth it is not worth anything. At all. There’s a reason you never make the third out at third and obviously Vlad doesn’t know it since he keeps doing it. Not going to third is not “playing it safe” as you seem to imply, it’s playing it like a non-fucking idiot. Going to third is not “taking advantage of the situation” but letting the Tigers off the hook without having to face another batter and it potentially cost them the game as it turns out.

Please stop with these ridiculous and ill informed defenses of a idiotic baserunner.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Sep 24, 2011 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

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