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Game 158: Orioles (66-91) @ Tigers (91-66), 7:05pm

Baltimore Orioles at Detroit Tigers, Sep 24, 2011 7:05 PM EDT


Guthrie. Verlander. WHO WILL OWN IT? Well... uh...

In one corner, Justin Verlander, the American League leader in wins and probably should be the Cy Young award winner (but not because of the wins). In the other corner, Jeremy Guthrie, the American League leader in losses. Of course, wins and losses are a terrible way to judge pitchers, but any other way you choose to examine the results of Verlander and Guthrie from this season, it's perfectly clear that Verlander comes out ahead by a wide margin, to the tune of a gap of 1.99 points of ERA.

The Tigers continue to try to secure home field advantage in the ALDS. To do this they have to have a record equal to or better than that of Texas, with whom they come into play today tied at 91-66. They still have something to play for after clinching and this is more than just a tune-up start for Verlander. Detroit has to win if they want to enhance their chances of playing Boston (or, still possibly, Tampa Bay, with Boston getting smoked by New York in afternoon action today).

Back to the subject of losses, the usual suspects at The Sun have pointed out that this is the fifth time in six years that the Orioles have had the league leader in losses on their team. Last year it was Kevin Millwood, in 2009 it was Guthrie, in '07 it was Daniel Cabrera and in '06 it was Rodrigo Lopez. In 2008, it was ... Verlander. Sadly, if Guthrie were to turn things around to the extent Verlander has - which is an unlikely enough proposition - it would likely be another team to benefit by the time 2014 rolls around. This whole paragraph is really sad. Of course, the Orioles have been one of the worst teams in the league every year of that time, so maybe it isn't surprising. Stubbornly sticking with some of these guys when they really sucked (especially Millwood, Cabrera and Lopez) wasn't so good though.

From the cool baseball stat department: according to Baseball Reference, there have been 199,991 games played since 1876 going into today's action. There are six games that will be either concluded or official by the time the O's game starts, and there are eight games starting at either 7:05pm or 7:10pm. Presumably, the third of these eight games to go official will be game #200,000. If the Orioles-Tigers game was that game, that would be pretty cool even if it was entirely insignificant.

You know what else would be cool? If I wasn't looking at where the O's are planning to use Brian Matusz as a starter tomorrow. I won't be here tomorrow to rant about it, so for tonight I'd like to say... you know what, I've said it all already. You win, Orioles. I give up. I surrender. Uncle. Please, just no more.

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WHAT?

Angle!

"Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs." -- Earl Weaver

by Vuff on Sep 24, 2011 7:07 PM EDT reply actions  

I, uh.

What in hell?

"They're throwing bottles at your house...Come on, let's go break their arms." - Henry Fool

by Fahrenheit 451 on Sep 24, 2011 7:10 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

BRADY!

"the secret to a happy ending is knowing when to roll the credits"

by j.q. higgins on Sep 24, 2011 7:25 PM EDT reply actions  

Matt Angle leadoff home run against Verlander is why I watch meaningless September baseball games.

"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP

by Eat More Esskay on Sep 24, 2011 7:30 PM EDT reply actions  

wow verlander loaded the bases.

The stock market will never recover, our armies will never again be #1, and our children will drink filthy water for the rest of their lives - HST

by the fix is in on Sep 24, 2011 7:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Verlander don't want any part of Angle.

That’s fucking Birdland right there.

"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP

by Eat More Esskay on Sep 24, 2011 7:31 PM EDT reply actions  

btw...

doesn;t verlander’s hometown sound like something out of star wars?

"the secret to a happy ending is knowing when to roll the credits"

by j.q. higgins on Sep 24, 2011 7:33 PM EDT reply actions  

high school = goochland

The stock market will never recover, our armies will never again be #1, and our children will drink filthy water for the rest of their lives - HST

by the fix is in on Sep 24, 2011 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

the goochlanders defeated the verlanders...

in the mankin-sabot wars.

"the secret to a happy ending is knowing when to roll the credits"

by j.q. higgins on Sep 24, 2011 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

a hive of scum and villainy!

"the secret to a happy ending is knowing when to roll the credits"

by j.q. higgins on Sep 24, 2011 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

As a Virginian

I’m tempted to defend the weird names. But that’s mainland Virginia, so fuck them.

no, not Olney. But I hear good things.

by joe from onley on Sep 24, 2011 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Verlander could now pitch a complete game and his ERA would end higher than it started today.

"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP

by Eat More Esskay on Sep 24, 2011 7:34 PM EDT reply actions  

totally awesome.

"the secret to a happy ending is knowing when to roll the credits"

by j.q. higgins on Sep 24, 2011 7:34 PM EDT reply actions  

Who IS this team?

Verlander better watch out or he’s gonna lose that Cy Young!

"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP

by Eat More Esskay on Sep 24, 2011 7:37 PM EDT reply actions  

death by a thousand tiny cuts!

"the secret to a happy ending is knowing when to roll the credits"

by j.q. higgins on Sep 24, 2011 7:37 PM EDT reply actions  

just tuned in

and my only thought is:

/yosemite Sam voice

What in tarnation?

Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn

by PBR me ASAP! on Sep 24, 2011 7:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Justin Who?

"The Orioles lost, but they were making a habit of losing and Gary has stopped following the season."

by WestcoastO'sFan on Sep 24, 2011 7:45 PM EDT reply actions  

LOOOOOOOONG DONG JOHNSON!

"The Orioles lost, but they were making a habit of losing and Gary has stopped following the season."

by WestcoastO'sFan on Sep 24, 2011 7:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Show us your dOng face, Mark!

Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn

by PBR me ASAP! on Sep 24, 2011 7:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Promised

We were promised, I saw.

by Holymittens on Sep 24, 2011 7:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Who is this SP?

He sucks pretty bad

"The Orioles lost, but they were making a habit of losing and Gary has stopped following the season."

by WestcoastO'sFan on Sep 24, 2011 7:54 PM EDT reply actions  

With this trend imagine how great we'd be

if we could play a bunch of games in october

by wishEYEhadCRABS on Sep 24, 2011 8:01 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

maybe another team will let us play for them

"The Orioles lost, but they were making a habit of losing and Gary has stopped following the season."

by WestcoastO'sFan on Sep 24, 2011 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

remember how bad the Orioles were in September before?

4-32. Wasn’t there a 14 game losing streak a couple Septembers ago, or is that simply from my imagination?

If you look at those UZR ratings or whatever

by dfa on Sep 24, 2011 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

They lost 13 in a row in September 2009.

If you look at those UZR ratings or whatever

by dfa on Sep 24, 2011 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

wow this Klondike bar ad is pretty messed up

"The Orioles lost, but they were making a habit of losing and Gary has stopped following the season."

by WestcoastO'sFan on Sep 24, 2011 7:56 PM EDT reply actions  

WTF Reynolds?

Either catch it or let it go!

If you look at those UZR ratings or whatever

by dfa on Sep 24, 2011 8:03 PM EDT reply actions  

Dammit Guts

Stop reminding me that it’s still possible for the Os to blow this game.

by Holymittens on Sep 24, 2011 8:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Possible??

I’m still going with likely at this point.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Sep 24, 2011 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Remember when we didn't think we would have room for Guts in the rotation b/c of all the good young pitchers?

"The Orioles lost, but they were making a habit of losing and Gary has stopped following the season."

by WestcoastO'sFan on Sep 24, 2011 8:24 PM EDT reply actions  

jesus Matusz' stats are eye popping

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Sep 24, 2011 8:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Let's knock Verlander the fuck out this inning

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Sep 24, 2011 8:37 PM EDT reply actions  

man...

jim hunter sure gets excited by base hits.

"the secret to a happy ending is knowing when to roll the credits"

by j.q. higgins on Sep 24, 2011 8:59 PM EDT reply actions  

STROP!

Tommy hunter still sucks!

by Steve. on Sep 24, 2011 9:11 PM EDT reply actions  

rec'd!

"the secret to a happy ending is knowing when to roll the credits"

by j.q. higgins on Sep 24, 2011 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

A "Stacey Long" popped up in my recommended google plus people.

Who is dis? I know of a Tracy, but no Stacey.

"Human beings make life so interesting. Do you know, that in a universe so full of wonders, they have managed to invent boredom?" ~ Death

by NSOsFan on Sep 24, 2011 9:11 PM EDT reply actions  

so now it's tied, huh?

I thought I saw this movie last night.

Tommy hunter still sucks!

by Steve. on Sep 24, 2011 9:36 PM EDT reply actions  

wow, hud!

"the secret to a happy ending is knowing when to roll the credits"

by j.q. higgins on Sep 24, 2011 9:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Don't see that every day.

"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP

by Eat More Esskay on Sep 24, 2011 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah...

if you’re gonna do a squeeze, hud on 3rd w/ angle at the plate is about the best time.

"the secret to a happy ending is knowing when to roll the credits"

by j.q. higgins on Sep 24, 2011 9:41 PM EDT reply actions  

johnson or [closer]?

not who do you wanna see, but who do you think it’ll be?

"the secret to a happy ending is knowing when to roll the credits"

by j.q. higgins on Sep 24, 2011 9:43 PM EDT reply actions  

dagnabbit.

"the secret to a happy ending is knowing when to roll the credits"

by j.q. higgins on Sep 24, 2011 9:45 PM EDT reply actions  

"Kevin Gregg comes on to try to earn the save."

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP

by Eat More Esskay on Sep 24, 2011 9:45 PM EDT reply actions  

and josh bell at 3rd?

delicious.

"the secret to a happy ending is knowing when to roll the credits"

by j.q. higgins on Sep 24, 2011 9:46 PM EDT reply actions  

:[

asshole kevin gregg wants to walk everyone on earth at least once.

Tommy hunter still sucks!

by Steve. on Sep 24, 2011 9:48 PM EDT reply actions  

yeah?

"the secret to a happy ending is knowing when to roll the credits"

by j.q. higgins on Sep 24, 2011 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

AT LEAST

Tommy hunter still sucks!

by Steve. on Sep 24, 2011 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

y no JJ?

"The Orioles lost, but they were making a habit of losing and Gary has stopped following the season."

by WestcoastO'sFan on Sep 24, 2011 9:49 PM EDT reply actions  

good grief.

"the secret to a happy ending is knowing when to roll the credits"

by j.q. higgins on Sep 24, 2011 9:50 PM EDT reply actions  

I!

"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP

by Eat More Esskay on Sep 24, 2011 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

O!

"the secret to a happy ending is knowing when to roll the credits"

by j.q. higgins on Sep 24, 2011 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

L!

"the secret to a happy ending is knowing when to roll the credits"

by j.q. higgins on Sep 24, 2011 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

E!

Tommy hunter still sucks!

by Steve. on Sep 24, 2011 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

S!

"the secret to a happy ending is knowing when to roll the credits"

by j.q. higgins on Sep 24, 2011 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

magic! magic! magic! magic!

"the secret to a happy ending is knowing when to roll the credits"

by j.q. higgins on Sep 24, 2011 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

in Philly, about to watch the Descendents

Someone tell me if Gregg closed it out.

Ape vs. robot: ape always wins.

by Ghost of Floyd Rayford on Sep 24, 2011 9:55 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

he did!

he’s not a loser!

"the secret to a happy ending is knowing when to roll the credits"

by j.q. higgins on Sep 24, 2011 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

i like food

and I still hate Gregg

Ape vs. robot: ape always wins.

by Ghost of Floyd Rayford on Sep 24, 2011 9:59 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

in Philly, about to watch the Descendents

Someone tell me if Gregg closed it out.

Ape vs. robot: ape always wins.

by Ghost of Floyd Rayford on Sep 24, 2011 9:55 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

he did.

Tommy hunter still sucks!

by Steve. on Sep 24, 2011 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes!

"the secret to a happy ending is knowing when to roll the credits"

by j.q. higgins on Sep 24, 2011 9:56 PM EDT reply actions  

really carried it off well.

"the secret to a happy ending is knowing when to roll the credits"

by j.q. higgins on Sep 24, 2011 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Post-game recap is up.

Sorry it took a little longer than usual. I got a little sidetracked.

Baseball’s a hell of a game.

http://www.camdenchat.com/2011/9/24/2447408/orioles-6-tigers-5-suicide-squeeze-saves-the-day

"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP

by Eat More Esskay on Sep 24, 2011 11:09 PM EDT reply actions  

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