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Monday Bird Droppings

Moldy is a powerful gazelle. Foxy is happy to be here.

The surprising satisfaction of yesterday's football masked the fetid stink of another start in the historically bad season of Brian Matusz.

Brian Matusz breaks Roy Halladay’s major league record | HardballTalk
BMat, Bmat...you're still my boy.

Phillies' rotation of Halladay, Hamels, Lee, Oswalt exceeded hype - Cliff Corcoran - SI.com
The flip side.

Orioles Insider: ESPN's look at Roberts' concussion - Baltimore Orioles: Schedule, news, analysis and opinion on baseball at Camden Yards - baltimoresun.com Res ipsa loquitor.

Steve Melewski: Reynolds moves into O's top 10 homers list
We were promised.

Camden Depot: The Orioles Could Be in the Playoffs Right Now Jon Shepherd on the playoffs.

On this day in 1962, Dave McNally threw a shutout in his major league debut; in 1972, Jim Palmer became the fourth member of the O's staff to win 20 games; in 1978 Mike Flanagan took a no hit bid to two outs in the 9th when Gary Alexander hit a solo home run.

Johnny Oates was fired on this day in 1994.

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Matsuz....
"It’s a work in progress," said Orioles manager Buck Showalter about Matusz. "I fully expect Brian to be a good option for us next year. I think he’ll go home and … he’ll figure it out.

Why does Buck even say that? Who’s gonna help him figure it out? He’s supposed to go home for 3 months, have an epiphany on his own, and suddenly be a competent MLB pitcher? THAT’S Buck’s plan?

"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King

by duck on Sep 26, 2011 8:14 AM EDT reply actions  

Obviously Brian will have to devise his own conditioning plan.

He’ll just go home and…….figure it out!

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Sep 26, 2011 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

Your next GM people.

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Sep 26, 2011 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

matusz will go home and suddenly turn into jim palmer

when taking a nap and have the epiphany that he is magically jim palmer….i think thats what buck tried to say

by baltimorebeatdown on Sep 26, 2011 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

"Comeback" Palmer maybe.

"Human beings make life so interesting. Do you know, that in a universe so full of wonders, they have managed to invent boredom?" ~ Death

by NSOsFan on Sep 26, 2011 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Brian's a part of the 3 Down bit in 3 U, 3 Down on CBS

Brian Matusz, Orioles: The left-hander’s season is finally over. Coming off a strong 2011, the youngster was primed to take the next step toward becoming an ace… and instead now ends 2011 with a 10.69 ERA that was actually lowered Sunday when he coughed up six runs over five innings to the Tigers, with a three-spot in the fifth as Matusz’s last taste. That ERA will set a record for a pitcher with at least 40 innings, STATS LLC reports — but he’s in good company, as the previous record of 10.64 was held by Roy Halladay (2000).
“I’m going to have a lot of motivation going into this winter, because I’m never going to forget what this has felt like,” Matusz told the Associated Press. “I’ve got a lot of mistakes to learn from.” I’d say so.

"Human beings make life so interesting. Do you know, that in a universe so full of wonders, they have managed to invent boredom?" ~ Death

by NSOsFan on Sep 26, 2011 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've got a bad feeling about this

Last night’s 2nd PHN game is the kind of thing that can end a death spiral.

I’d like to see Buck & his nuggets prove me wrong, but I’m not counting on it.

"If you don't like the effect, don't produce the cause."

- George Clinton

by sluggo 2.0 on Sep 26, 2011 9:19 AM EDT reply actions  

So I'm reading MVP and Cy Young articles all over the place

and a lot of people an the “saber”-y side of the interwebs say that Kemp should/ could get the NL MVP. But isn’t the value of a marginal win more valuable on a contending team than on a .500 team like the Dodgers? Given the 0.9 fWAR gap between Kemp and Braun, wsn’t Braun more valuable this season? He might not have been as good, but he’s probably more valuable.
I’m starting to think that there is solid logic to picking an MVP from a contender, even if he isn’t the best player.

War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Vlad is good.

by J(O's)elskIL on Sep 26, 2011 9:21 AM EDT reply actions  

I take the middle ground

If a guy is on a team that’s expected to be bad or has been bad for a long time & clearly is a main reason they achieve respectability, like Kemp & to a lesser degree Bautista on the Jays, then I say he’s worthy of consideration.

But to give either award to a guy on a flat-out black hole of suck team coughkingfelixcough makes no sense, because they accomplished nothing towards making the team any better than it would have been otherwise.

"If you don't like the effect, don't produce the cause."

- George Clinton

by sluggo 2.0 on Sep 26, 2011 9:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Plus the Dodgers have nobody.

Kemp, Kershaw, and some of Either are the only reason they’ve won any games at all.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Sep 26, 2011 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

Looking at it that way...

The Brewers are up 6 games in the standings. If you take away Braun’s 7.3 wins and replace him with just a competent player (say Nick Markakis), the Brewers are still leading their division.

by Holymittens on Sep 26, 2011 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

But isn’t the value of a marginal win more valuable on a contending team than on a .500 team like the Dodgers?

The idea is to measure value to your team. If a player adds 7 wins that value doesn’t change if the team is a playoff contender or not. It’s still 7 wins. To give more value to Braun over Kemp penalizes Kemp for having bad teammates, a factor he has no control over.

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Sep 26, 2011 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Which brings us to the debate over what "value" means.

Since this isn’t the Most Outstanding Player award.

Mother, did it need to be so high.

by salvotion on Sep 26, 2011 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is a $200 ring more valuable than a $150 ring?

Because Kemp is the $200 ring and Braun is the $150 ring.

by Holymittens on Sep 26, 2011 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I totally agree.

But sometimes the $150 ring looks much better when Christina Hendricks wears it instead of the $200 ring on the homely looking woman begging for change on the sidewalk. Not that the ring itself is any better. Just appears better.

Mother, did it need to be so high.

by salvotion on Sep 26, 2011 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, but is anyone really looking at her hands???

"The Orioles lost, but they were making a habit of losing and Gary has stopped following the season."

by WestcoastO'sFan on Sep 26, 2011 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

But that's irrelevant

We’re talking about value. Solely value. If I offer you $200 or $150, you take $150. If you stuff the $200 under your mattress, it does not become worth less than if you’d put it in a leather wallet.

by Holymittens on Sep 26, 2011 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Or another way to look at it

If you have a $50 dollar bill, it doesn’t become less valuable if it’s surrounded by $1 bills.

by Holymittens on Sep 26, 2011 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

In the interest of eliminating the extended metaphors,

I agree with you. My feeling is the same. But I can also see that there is at least a colorable argument (not convincing, mind you) that a slightly worse player can provide marginally more value to a team that is a bubble contender for the playoffs and, thus, become a more “valuable” player.

Mother, did it need to be so high.

by salvotion on Sep 26, 2011 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think we all agree it means value to your team. The problem is that people confuse value to your team and value of the team.

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Sep 26, 2011 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Then let's go sign Fielder!

No. That would be stupid because he’s less valuable to us than he is to a contender. His contribution on the field is more significant where it makes a difference.
Braun’s contribution to the Brewers was more valuable than Kemp’s contribution to the Dodgers, even though as of now, Kemp has been the better player.

War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Vlad is good.

by J(O's)elskIL on Sep 26, 2011 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

again, you're penalizing fielder for having bad teammates if he signs with the orioles

he’s still providing the same value. you’re just discounting that value because of robert andino and others.

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Sep 26, 2011 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think he might have been kidding.

If he wasn’t, I don’t get why his value to another team should have any bearing on why we should or shouldn’t sign him.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Sep 26, 2011 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

What I was trying to convey (badly apparently)

is

  1. I don’t think we should sign Fielder.
  2. That’s not the point. It was a bad example.
    The main point is
  3. Braun has been more valuable than Kemp even though his contribution has been less.

War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Vlad is good.

by J(O's)elskIL on Sep 26, 2011 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Explain all three points.

I really don’t understand number 3.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Sep 26, 2011 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Think of it as a season long leverage index.

Contribution in high leverage situations during ballgames is more valuable than during low leverage situations (a walk with 2 out none on top of the first vs. a walk with men on 1st and 2nd, no outs in the bottom of the ninth).
The way I see it is playoff bound teams are playing high leverage games vs. low leverage games by non-contenders and the contender’s players contributions, if equal with the contribution by a player on a non- contending team, is more valuable.

War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Vlad is good.

by J(O's)elskIL on Sep 26, 2011 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Of course I could be wrong.

The reason I posted originally was to here other opinions. I respect this forums opinions and ideas.

War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Vlad is good.

by J(O's)elskIL on Sep 26, 2011 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

^ *hear other opinions

War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Vlad is good.

by J(O's)elskIL on Sep 26, 2011 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

but this metaphor doesn't change individual contribution.

it’s not fielder’s fault that his games aren’t “high leverage” situations.

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Sep 26, 2011 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's not a matter of fault.

Would you rather have someone bailing out just enough water from a boat to keep it afloat or someone bailing more water but the ship still sinks?
Who was more valuable?

War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Vlad is good.

by J(O's)elskIL on Sep 26, 2011 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Who's to say the ship wouldn't still be afloat with him?

According to WAR, the Brewers would still be the division leader even without Braun.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Sep 26, 2011 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Does WAR correlate to actual wins/losses?

I don’t remember. I know that a team of replacement level players is meant to have a .320 win%

War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Vlad is good.

by J(O's)elskIL on Sep 26, 2011 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'm sure teams with a high number of fWARs actually do win more.

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Sep 26, 2011 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes. But TL is saying if the Brewers didn't have Braun

they’d still make the playoffs because (their lead – Braun’s WAR) > 0.
I don’t know if that’s true.

War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Vlad is good.

by J(O's)elskIL on Sep 26, 2011 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

it depends on who they replace braun with

if they replace him with a replacement level player, then the brewers would be on almost tied with the braves for the WC card spot.

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Sep 26, 2011 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

almost no difference!

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Sep 26, 2011 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think that it is "actual" wins/losses.

That is more for story stats like WPA where you can better attribute win/loss swings to plays made by individual players. Not sure if that’s what you mean, though.

Mother, did it need to be so high.

by salvotion on Sep 26, 2011 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think you're right

War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Vlad is good.

by J(O's)elskIL on Sep 26, 2011 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

But on a season long scale sort of.

My point (query?) is: Why is x WAR in a low leverage game equal to x WAR in a high leverage game?

War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Vlad is good.

by J(O's)elskIL on Sep 26, 2011 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Because WAR is not measured that way

WAR isn’t measured on a game-by-game basis. Well, I guess you could do it if you wanted to for some reason, but it’s not relevant.

Again, you’re punishing a player for having bad teammates.

Consider it this way… If the two players switched teams, but put up the same stat lines, Kemp would still be the more valuable player.

If anything, Kemp is WAY MORE VALUABLE to his team because he’s the equivalent of giving a homeless man a $20, while Braun is giving a regular guy $20.

by Holymittens on Sep 26, 2011 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Right

Which is why factoring in something like a team’s record or playoff boundedness is meaningless.

by Holymittens on Sep 26, 2011 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes.

And the homeless dude needs the PBR more than the regular guy. Far fewer options for entertainment and far more reasons to get trashed.

Mother, did it need to be so high.

by salvotion on Sep 26, 2011 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Braun's on a playoff team though.

He’s buying champagne with that 20 dollars. Kemp’s stuck with Natty Light.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Sep 26, 2011 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Or possibly "Genese Cream Ale"

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Sep 26, 2011 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

mad dog 20/20

clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...

by Gamecock24 on Sep 26, 2011 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes.

As most out-of-favor drink for non-winos.

Mother, did it need to be so high.

by salvotion on Sep 26, 2011 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's his point.

There is no difference in value just because one is on a playoff team.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Sep 26, 2011 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

I want the best players

I don’t care where they played last year. I just want the best players possible.

"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King

by duck on Sep 26, 2011 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

wait, but you're asking which person I would rather have, not which boat

I would rather have the guy who gets the most water out of my boat. I would also rather have the boat with less water in it.

Jim: Why?
Gary: I don't know why.

by Andrew_G on Sep 26, 2011 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd rather have a boat that doesn't leak.

"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP

by Eat More Esskay on Sep 26, 2011 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

I want a catamaran

because they look really cool.

"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King

by duck on Sep 26, 2011 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

as andrew said

you’re confusing the boat with the player.

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Sep 26, 2011 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Let me ask you this

shouldn’t salary be a part of the “valuable” discussion, since a lower salaried player is definitely more valuable to his team than a highly paid player, if for no other reason than there is more funds with which to build around said player?

Jim: Why?
Gary: I don't know why.

by Andrew_G on Sep 26, 2011 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yea....this doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

You’re penalizing every player that isn’t on a good team. Plus, what about the teams that are close to the playoffs but don’t make it? The Brewers play in one of the worst divisions in baseball. Are their “high-leverage situations” equal to the “high-leverage situations” that teams in the AL East face?

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Sep 26, 2011 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

No. and that is a good point.

Not all playoff races are created equal. Good point.

War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Vlad is good.

by J(O's)elskIL on Sep 26, 2011 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

But the fact that they are closer to the playoffs still make their games

more “important” (for lack of a better word)

War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Vlad is good.

by J(O's)elskIL on Sep 26, 2011 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

So what happens to the shitty team that they're playing?

A player with a good game against a team close to the playoffs still has a good game. His contribution is no less valuable than a player on that almost-playoff team.

Essentially you’re arguing that MVPs should only come from playoff teams since their games are more important than the games that shitty teams play.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Sep 26, 2011 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Look, I have to go but I'll leave with this.

Being on a contending team should be one of the factors. Not the deciding one, but it has to be taken into account.

War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Vlad is good.

by J(O's)elskIL on Sep 26, 2011 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

How so?

Playoff teams usually have far more than one good player. Who’s the MVP of the Phillies this year? They had like 4 awesome starting pitchers. Would they have been worse without any of those 4 pitchers? Yes. Which one is more valuable to the team?

You’re basically saying ignore every player from non-contenders since they don’t have the value that players on contenders do. How would the Orioles have fared without JJ Hardy this year? I have no doubt in my mind the Nats would be in last place in the NL East if not for Michael Morse.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Sep 26, 2011 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Or from a different perspective,

players on shitty teams may actually be better players since they have to compete against slightly better competition. Since you can’t play your own team, a player on a shitty team has one less shitty team to play whereas a player on a playoff team has one less quality opponent. I realize this isn’t a particularly strong argument but there it is.

Mother, did it need to be so high.

by salvotion on Sep 26, 2011 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Also, cupcakes.

Mother, did it need to be so high.

by salvotion on Sep 26, 2011 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

heh

this made me laugh

clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...

by Gamecock24 on Sep 26, 2011 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

The other thing is what was recently argued by Joe Pos.

He suggested that the great player on a bad team may be doing something more incredible – solely because it has to be so easy to check out on a team that’s way out of contention. It’s easy to stay focused if you’re in the playoff chase.

Ah, but if your team sucks – you can lose your mental focus in that grind. The player on the bad team who shows up, day in and day out, does all the things they need to do to keep their talent at its maximum, that may be the player who’s truly doing something special. In talking about this I am pretty sure one of the players he singled out was Cal in 1991.

"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP

by Eat More Esskay on Sep 26, 2011 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

This seems like a reasonable point

I’m on the fence on the whole thing. Steve Nash won two MVPs a few years ago when he was far from the Most Outstanding Player. But he was the glue on a good team that just held everything together. Without him, everyone was significantly worse. Obviously, basketball examples won’t translate well since it’s more of a team sport. But I think it should be at least a small part of the equation.

Will work for Recs.

by Wieters Wieners on Sep 26, 2011 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bad MVP selections don't mean future ones should also be bad

Steve Nash was the “token white guy wins an MVP” award winner. He shouldn’t have won them.

by Holymittens on Sep 26, 2011 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Joking about the "token white guy" part, but...

Not joking about him not having deserved the MVPs those years. I don’t follow basketball that closely, but I believe both of those years other guys had superior years to him, yet he inexplicably won them.

by Holymittens on Sep 26, 2011 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

I doubt you've one any grammar contests recently.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Sep 26, 2011 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Every Mother's Day

has a Mother’s Night!

"Human beings make life so interesting. Do you know, that in a universe so full of wonders, they have managed to invent boredom?" ~ Death

by NSOsFan on Sep 26, 2011 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Heh....to be honest, HM might have a point.

I wouldn’t put anything past the NBA. I really don’t understand that league.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Sep 26, 2011 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

look people...

Kemp has 156 K’s, Braun has just 93. Did anyone stop and think that maybe the Dodgers aren’t very good because their souls have been crushed by all those K’s??

by brek on Sep 26, 2011 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Excuse me? I'm sorry, what exactly are you saying about Robert Andino?

"The Orioles lost, but they were making a habit of losing and Gary has stopped following the season."

by WestcoastO'sFan on Sep 26, 2011 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

some would say there is value to having 7 more wins

playoffs or no.

I would say that, in fact.

"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and a little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott

by zknower on Sep 26, 2011 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

me too.

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Sep 26, 2011 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

spoiler alert!

O’s sweep PHN. nuggets galore.

by Philly O's on Sep 26, 2011 9:43 AM EDT reply actions  

Seriously?

Ads as long frontpage posts now?

This is bullshit! — factually accurate

Like a bad, suave dude. You know what I'm sayin'. COOL. SC 7/24/08

by 33 on Sep 26, 2011 9:45 AM EDT reply actions  

But did you know...

you can follow the orioles ALL SEASON LONG?

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Sep 26, 2011 9:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

and THAT'S another hats off moment!

"the secret to a happy ending is knowing when to roll the credits"

by j.q. higgins on Sep 26, 2011 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

That's straight from the corporate overlords

Stacey has no control over those.

"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King

by duck on Sep 26, 2011 10:07 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Oh, I know

just not sure where you bitch to the overlords. I want to tell them I have an urge to mix Oakheart with Head N’ Shoulders and put it in their gastanks.

Like a bad, suave dude. You know what I'm sayin'. COOL. SC 7/24/08

by 33 on Sep 26, 2011 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Those ads keep us running

They’re not my favorite either but it’s stuff like that that makes SBN able to provide all of their content for free. That’s not me parroting the company line, it’s simply reality.

Giraffes have absurdly strong necks.

by Stacey on Sep 26, 2011 12:19 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

You mean this place can't run on "duck is my Homeboy" t-shirt revenue? SHOCKED!

"Human beings make life so interesting. Do you know, that in a universe so full of wonders, they have managed to invent boredom?" ~ Death

by NSOsFan on Sep 26, 2011 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

now 3 for $10!!

"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and a little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott

by zknower on Sep 26, 2011 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

New t-shirt

Parental Advisory: Explicit O’sFan21

and on the back

#$%@

"Human beings make life so interesting. Do you know, that in a universe so full of wonders, they have managed to invent boredom?" ~ Death

by NSOsFan on Sep 26, 2011 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

ahahahahaha

I love this

"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and a little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott

by zknower on Sep 26, 2011 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'll fucking take one.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Sep 26, 2011 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

the back should say

“#$%@ skinny arms!”

"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and a little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott

by zknower on Sep 26, 2011 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Or "Hit the weights, you @%$# !!!"

"Human beings make life so interesting. Do you know, that in a universe so full of wonders, they have managed to invent boredom?" ~ Death

by NSOsFan on Sep 26, 2011 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't know

I think “Mother#$%@! O!” has been my best explicit contribution.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Sep 26, 2011 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

i like it a lot.

"the secret to a happy ending is knowing when to roll the credits"

by j.q. higgins on Sep 26, 2011 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Or

“I used the word motherfucker, your argument is invalid.”

"Human beings make life so interesting. Do you know, that in a universe so full of wonders, they have managed to invent boredom?" ~ Death

by NSOsFan on Sep 26, 2011 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Or

“I don’t understand what you’re trying to say here”

Will work for Recs.

by Wieters Wieners on Sep 26, 2011 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

what this guy said

"The Orioles lost, but they were making a habit of losing and Gary has stopped following the season."

by WestcoastO'sFan on Sep 26, 2011 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

me too.

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Sep 26, 2011 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

You'll see that one because SBN has it as an article.

My adblock+ isn’t getting rid of it.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Sep 26, 2011 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hmm....I am too.

I see nothing except the one that they’ve stuck onto the front page via articles.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Sep 26, 2011 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nope

I do not have any advertisements whatsoever, including any article on the front page or otherwise.

by Holymittens on Sep 26, 2011 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

still three people will a chance to beat AMD this week in pick 'em

i need WAS to win in a very low scoring game. one of the few times i’ll actually be rooting for the Skins

clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...

by Gamecock24 on Sep 26, 2011 9:54 AM EDT reply actions  

:)

I’m a combined 0-6 in FF and fuckin NE knocked me out of survival yesterday… ugh.

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Sep 26, 2011 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah i had a brutal day in FF yesterday

i think i went like 1-7 for the week, plus i’m probably going to lose Britt for the year in a few leagues

clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...

by Gamecock24 on Sep 26, 2011 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

you're in 8 leagues???

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Sep 26, 2011 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

haha yeah

four of them i actually care about (ie. have actual money on the line), two i’m kind of invested in (the CC league and one with my college buddies for no money), and the other two are ones that co-workers asked me to be in that are complete jokes

clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...

by Gamecock24 on Sep 26, 2011 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

At that point

There’s no way you can actually root for anyone in any game. Every score has to work for and against you in some league.

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Sep 26, 2011 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

pretty much

i have a few guys that i have on several teams (Britt, Boldin, Adrian Peterson) that makes it easier to root for, but generally i just root for high scoring games all around

clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...

by Gamecock24 on Sep 26, 2011 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

San Diego wanted to lose that game, but I'm still alive in survivor.

Looking into this week’s pick as we speak.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Sep 26, 2011 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

I would never fully trust Tampa Bay to beat anybody yet

Maybe next year, but not this year.

"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King

by duck on Sep 26, 2011 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah but it's against Indy at home on monday night

they’ll be all sorts of fired up for their first prime time game in a few years. plus it’s not like Manning is walking through that door anytime soon

clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...

by Gamecock24 on Sep 26, 2011 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah but that was indy's chance to show they weren't going to roll over

plus they did most of their damage with Collins in the game. did you see how bad their offense looked again with Painter in? if he has to start this upcoming week, TB will be a lock

clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...

by Gamecock24 on Sep 26, 2011 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

If GC is still available against DEN

Go with the sure thing. This is a case where you put off the hard choices until you need to make them – because you may not need to make them.

"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King

by duck on Sep 26, 2011 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

valid point

clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...

by Gamecock24 on Sep 26, 2011 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yea, but that's the AFC champs...

it’s not quite the same as facing any NFC team. TB runs away with it.

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Sep 26, 2011 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'd have to go with Green Bay over Denver

"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and a little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott

by zknower on Sep 26, 2011 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

or maybe Washington over St. Louie

"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and a little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott

by zknower on Sep 26, 2011 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'd only take WAS if I had to.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Sep 26, 2011 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

No matter what happens tonight

St Louis is 0-3 with no offense.

"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and a little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott

by zknower on Sep 26, 2011 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

SJAX might be back.

Agree that they have no offense, but they never had offense in the past and they’ve beaten the Skins.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Sep 26, 2011 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

this is true

but the Redskins D was terrible last year, and it’s markedly improved this year. Great article the other day about how Haslett can actually run the defense since he’s not spending half his time coddling Hayneworth. And Kerrigan was a great drafting.

I wish Hall would STFU though.

"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and a little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott

by zknower on Sep 26, 2011 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

and i wish...

jarvis jenkins was healthy. and laron landry. and gomes.

the defense could be so much better, too!

"the secret to a happy ending is knowing when to roll the credits"

by j.q. higgins on Sep 26, 2011 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Landry is going to play tonight, no?

Agree on Jenkins. Think he would have been a huge help at DE.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Sep 26, 2011 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

re: landry

who knows?

saying he’s probable or questionable could mean a variety of things in shanahanese.

"the secret to a happy ending is knowing when to roll the credits"

by j.q. higgins on Sep 26, 2011 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's true.

I need Shanahanese lessons.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Sep 26, 2011 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's a limited skill set...

like doing jeterian ball flips.

that sounds vulgar.

"the secret to a happy ending is knowing when to roll the credits"

by j.q. higgins on Sep 26, 2011 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've been practicing my jump throw skills lately.

Getting pretty good at it.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Sep 26, 2011 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ahhh Minkaaaaa

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Sep 26, 2011 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

wait,

she dumped him? she’s safe to fawn over?

Tommy hunter still sucks!

by Steve. on Sep 26, 2011 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

She still reeks of Derek Jeter, but I could probably get over it.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Sep 26, 2011 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

It could take many, many bubble baths to get out the Jetereek

But a man’s gotta do the tough jobs to, if really pressed into it.

"Human beings make life so interesting. Do you know, that in a universe so full of wonders, they have managed to invent boredom?" ~ Death

by NSOsFan on Sep 26, 2011 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

My God, are they horrible

If WAS has any receiver with speed who can catch a cold, Sexy Rexy’s gonna be saying “F—k it, I’m going deep” a LOT next week.

"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King

by duck on Sep 26, 2011 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

UNLEASH THE DRAGON!

"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and a little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott

by zknower on Sep 26, 2011 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Desperation mode

I’m thinking of moving Andre Johnson for Jason Witten and LeGarrette Blount.

Also Matthew Stafford for either Daniel Thomas, Shonn Greene or Steven Jackson.

Thoughts?

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Sep 26, 2011 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

weren't you saying that stafford is your back-up?

if that’s the case, then getting any of those guys would be a solid deal. i’d probably rank them in the order that you have them listed.

as far as that first trade, you’ve got to be able to get a better return for AJ.

clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...

by Gamecock24 on Sep 26, 2011 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah Stafford and Rivers

I’d be willing to lose either at this point. I’m trying to get Cop Speed and Jason Witten but I don’t think it’ll work. I’ll probably have to settle for LeGarrette

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Sep 26, 2011 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Trade em all for SHJ

"Human beings make life so interesting. Do you know, that in a universe so full of wonders, they have managed to invent boredom?" ~ Death

by NSOsFan on Sep 26, 2011 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

ugh... fucking Britt

I had him in all my leagues except the CC one. In my big money league ($200) he was my 8th rnd pick and I could keep him next year at the cost of a 6th rounder. Already had Colston go down, so looking at Sidney Rice as the #2 WR option.

by brek on Sep 26, 2011 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rice had a decent week.

Then again, he won’t be facing the Cardinals every week.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Sep 26, 2011 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, i think he might be serviceable

probably won’t put up huge games, but he is the main weapon in the shitty passing game they have.

by brek on Sep 26, 2011 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I dropped him for David Nelson

I should’ve dropped Ocho. That happened this morning though.

Will work for Recs.

by Wieters Wieners on Sep 26, 2011 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

In the interest of full disclosure

I wanted to draft Peyton Manning and took Brady by mistake (he was in my cue in case someone took Manning early for some reason). I also wanted to land Britt and was thinking of trading for him. I love pulling for the Rutgers guys, but playing in a league full of Baltimore fans means having Ray Rice get taken even earlier than he should be, so Britt is my homeboy. If all had gone according to plan I’d be done.

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Sep 26, 2011 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

My apologies

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Sep 26, 2011 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's good to see Lefeged get some playing time for the Colts (and a pick last night)

Once Brackett gets back, some passing situations will have 3/11 of the Colts defense made up of UFA’s out of Rutgers.

"Tiger got to hunt, bird got to fly; Man got to sit and wonder 'why, why, why?' Tiger got to sleep, bird got to land; Man got to tell himself he understand.."

by tflach2 on Sep 26, 2011 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yea I was psyched to see Lefeged last night

There are so many quality RU guys in the NFL right now. It’s really kinda cool.

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Sep 26, 2011 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just hope this conference realignment doesn't take a big crap on us.

I am all for conference loyalty, but we seem to be one of the last rats on this sinking ship. Hopefully we end up in the Big 16, or the ACC and not having to watch the Army/Navy with a conference title and a trip to the Motor City Bowl on the line.

"Tiger got to hunt, bird got to fly; Man got to sit and wonder 'why, why, why?' Tiger got to sleep, bird got to land; Man got to tell himself he understand.."

by tflach2 on Sep 26, 2011 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think we end up in the ACC

but this is all a big mess right now. I don’t see the Big East surviving much longer.

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Sep 26, 2011 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm hoping for a WAS win 24-23

"The Orioles lost, but they were making a habit of losing and Gary has stopped following the season."

by WestcoastO'sFan on Sep 26, 2011 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

So now Reimold has as many homers as Vlad

but in half the ABs. Think anyone in the front office even notices? He may not have completely run away with it, but he should get a legitimate shot to start in left next year.

by tjk on Sep 26, 2011 10:07 AM EDT reply actions  

don’t forget his salary.

"Grow nothing, buy the 'Pen" (Wieters Weiners)

by IggesRule13 on Sep 26, 2011 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Did any of you know that Bacardi has a new variety?

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Sep 26, 2011 10:25 AM EDT reply actions  

I've got three words for them

GO FUCK YOURSELVES

"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and a little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott

by zknower on Sep 26, 2011 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

My three words for Oakheart are "Don't fuck Dornishwomen"

Two people may get this joke.

"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP

by Eat More Esskay on Sep 26, 2011 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

that has to be a GOT reference, right?

"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and a little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott

by zknower on Sep 26, 2011 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

A later book in the series.

The character may not be important enough to make the cut to be in the show, though.

"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP

by Eat More Esskay on Sep 26, 2011 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I went to the Baltimore Book Festival yesterday

I picked up some old issues of Analog from the mid-80s. Two of ’em contain novellas by GRR Martin, back when he was still writing scifi. Good stuff.

by PhilR8 on Sep 26, 2011 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

I really liked Tuf Voyaging.

The first chapter/book is iffy, but the rest was great.

"Roberts is unconscious!!!!" - Jim Hunter, after Brian Roberts hits his second HR of the night. 9/21/09

by Gonfoo on Sep 26, 2011 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ah the story I just read was about Tuf!

Loaves and Fishes. I really liked it. The other issue of Analog that I got contains Second Helpings, which is apparently a continuation of LaF. Wish there was a Kindle edition of Tuf Voyaging, but I may spring for a used paperback.

by PhilR8 on Sep 26, 2011 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

I get it

I believe more people would get it than you suppose.

by Holymittens on Sep 26, 2011 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

The only ad I see is the "Deal Alert" ad for tickets

and I see the sponsored headers to stories (hats off moment etc). I see nothin else

by PhilR8 on Sep 26, 2011 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm seeing this massive ad about Oakhart or whatever it is.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Sep 26, 2011 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Manning is probably out for the season.

Who knew? Oh….everyone in the football world….

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Sep 26, 2011 10:55 AM EDT reply actions  

We're only 22 games out of the wildcard!

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Sep 26, 2011 10:59 AM EDT reply actions  

bhahaha.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Sep 26, 2011 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm confused

Maryland did not appear to be playing football on Saturday.

by Holymittens on Sep 26, 2011 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

true statement

it’s like they showed up for a mean game of hopscotch and were surprised when football game broke out

clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...

by Gamecock24 on Sep 26, 2011 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

has anyone ever thought

about in the orioles locker room where you have combined the hunter(tommy hunter), a gazelle(reimold), and a fox(jake fox)? lol

by baltimorebeatdown on Sep 26, 2011 12:55 PM EDT reply actions  

What about the chicken & the bag of corn

that the guy with the boat has to safely transport to the other side of the river along with the fox?

"If you don't like the effect, don't produce the cause."

- George Clinton

by sluggo 2.0 on Sep 26, 2011 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

In case it wasn't entirely clear....

…. that the powers that be in MLB would prefer to keep the status quo:

After the first game of their series was rained out on Friday, the Yankees gave the Red Sox unusual input into the rescheduling of the game, drawing praise from Terry Francona, Boston’s manager. He recalled the Yankees’ general manager, Brian Cashman, explicitly saying, “This game means more to you.”

I’m surprised the Yankees didn’t send out forfeit lineups this past weekend.

"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and a little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott

by zknower on Sep 26, 2011 1:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Plans within plans within plans

That could be to catch them off guard, as they run out the scrubs vs Rays for all 3 games – starting with Noesi.

Or if you’re not buying the Dune theory & think there’s some sort of collaboration going on, “Someday, and that day may never come, I will ask a favour in return…”

"If you don't like the effect, don't produce the cause."

- George Clinton

by sluggo 2.0 on Sep 26, 2011 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Possible that the Yankees would rather play Boston than Tampa at this point

and would rather help Boston back their way into the playoffs in the event the two meet in the ALCS.

Mother, did it need to be so high.

by salvotion on Sep 26, 2011 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Anybody who has seen the Red Sox play the last month has to figure they get swept out in round one.

They have been beyond abysmal in September. They are 6-18 in September. They are 2-16 in games where they score less than ten runs.

There is absolutely no competitive advantage to the Yankees in allowing the Red Sox into the playoffs, if they were to do such a thing or attempt to make such a thing happen. All they do is give either Texas or Detroit (currently Texas) an easy first round matchup.

"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP

by Eat More Esskay on Sep 26, 2011 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sometimes the best team does not always win in the playoffs (see, SF Giants 2010, StL Cards 2006, etc.)

If I am the Yankees, I might prefer a worse team in the event the worse team gets lucky and wins the first round. On the other hand, it may be more to the Yankees advantage to have a higher likelihood of a long series so that whoever wins is more tired for the ALCS. Don;t know. Just throwing it out there.

Mother, did it need to be so high.

by salvotion on Sep 26, 2011 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why would NYY NOT want BOS to make it?

They won’t see BOS in Round 1 if BOS makes the playoffs, and someone else will beat them in 3 games. If anything, I don’t want BOS to make the playoffs if I’m NYY, because there’s no scenario where I get to beat them up in Rd 1 and get those off-days. Some other team I’ll have to face in Round 2 gets to get a bunch of days off while I’m potentially fighting out a 5 game series while BOS went home in 3. Yuck.

"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King

by duck on Sep 26, 2011 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Since Leyland said Verlander will not go in game 4

NYY should want Det. taken to 5 games in 1st round. That means Rays.

I’m telling you, Girardi’s sending out the scrubs for these next 3.

"If you don't like the effect, don't produce the cause."

- George Clinton

by sluggo 2.0 on Sep 26, 2011 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

The O's are gonna trot out scrubs for their next three too!

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Sep 26, 2011 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I always dig one game playoffs.

That MIN-DET game a couple years back was fantastic

Will work for Recs.

by Wieters Wieners on Sep 26, 2011 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I remember the Bucky Dent game (barely)

More recent vintage was Leiter & the Mets recovering from a horrid late season death spiral to beat the Reds.

"If you don't like the effect, don't produce the cause."

- George Clinton

by sluggo 2.0 on Sep 26, 2011 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

That would be awesome if they did it just to poke their rivals.

You could even see Cashman coming out and saying it after the fact.

Will work for Recs.

by Wieters Wieners on Sep 26, 2011 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

The haves share more in common with one another than they do with the have-nots.

This is no surprise.

"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP

by Eat More Esskay on Sep 26, 2011 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

I love the smell of desperation in the morning

PHN are trying to trade for a starter & get him through waivers for tomorrow’s game.

"If you don't like the effect, don't produce the cause."

- George Clinton

by sluggo 2.0 on Sep 26, 2011 3:10 PM EDT reply actions  

just speculation

but i’m assuming the “personal text message” was somehow related to this

http://withleather.uproxx.com/2011/09/john-lackey-walks-for-cancer

clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...

by Gamecock24 on Sep 26, 2011 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

yikes

It’s going to be hard to spin that in a way that doesn’t make him look like a raging asshole.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Sep 27, 2011 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

How terrible have the Vikings been this year?

1st half scores: Minnesota 54 Opponents 7
2nd half scores: Minnesota 6 Opponents 67

by kba26 on Sep 26, 2011 3:46 PM EDT reply actions  

it's not like the have arguably the best running back in football to utilize

oh wait…

but in all seriousness, just look at Peterson’s numbers by half:
1st half: 36 carries, 230 yards, 3 TD
2nd half: 22 carries, 66 yards, 2 TD

clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...

by Gamecock24 on Sep 26, 2011 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

McNabb needs to retire.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Sep 26, 2011 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

If they could manage to trot out the 1st half team for full games

they would pretty awesome.

Mother, did it need to be so high.

by salvotion on Sep 26, 2011 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm down 3 points and have Santana Moss going tonight.

Something to root for if you’re bored. LOL

Will work for Recs.

by Wieters Wieners on Sep 26, 2011 3:49 PM EDT reply actions  

You should be fine there.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Sep 26, 2011 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

My team of complete washouts might be 2-1

Oh yeah, and I made a stupid stupid trade this weekend:

I gave up:
David Nelson
Steven Jackson

I got:
Tolbert
Santonio Holmes

Tolbert looks like he’s going to be losing ALL the carries soon.

Will work for Recs.

by Wieters Wieners on Sep 26, 2011 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Heh, i just traded away Tolbert for Nelson

looking like i pulled the trigger just in time

by kba26 on Sep 26, 2011 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

He might still get some redzone looks.

Mathews is far more explosive though. Tolbert is sorta one-dimensional.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Sep 26, 2011 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Will I get banned if my Oakheart slogan suggestion is:

“Bacardi: Terrible Rum” Factually accurate!

Mother, did it need to be so high.

by salvotion on Sep 26, 2011 4:06 PM EDT reply actions  

Just got tickets on StubHub...

to JEFF MANGUM next Monday night in Asbury Park!

"Real Orioles don't pout. Real Orioles don't gloat. Real Orioles just win."

by NewYorkOriole on Sep 26, 2011 4:11 PM EDT reply actions  

WHAT?!

crazy.

"the secret to a happy ending is knowing when to roll the credits"

by j.q. higgins on Sep 26, 2011 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just went to my first class and the proffesor claimed he was a ludite,

Pretty sure this class is going to be easier than my HS, no papers.

"The Orioles lost, but they were making a habit of losing and Gary has stopped following the season."

by WestcoastO'sFan on Sep 26, 2011 4:32 PM EDT reply actions  

depending on your major

odds are that you are correct

clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...

by Gamecock24 on Sep 26, 2011 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Undeclared right now

It’s a PoliSci class though.

"The Orioles lost, but they were making a habit of losing and Gary has stopped following the season."

by WestcoastO'sFan on Sep 26, 2011 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

"Class, the exam will cover.."

“But sir, don’t exams just make you part of The Man’s machine?”

“NO EXAM.”

"Human beings make life so interesting. Do you know, that in a universe so full of wonders, they have managed to invent boredom?" ~ Death

by NSOsFan on Sep 26, 2011 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

A luddite means he eschews technology

You can give hand-written exams perfectly fine.

by Holymittens on Sep 26, 2011 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

kba

Did you watch Breaking Bad last night….. OMG

Will work for Recs.

by Wieters Wieners on Sep 26, 2011 5:25 PM EDT reply actions  

Seriously. What an intense episode.

Are there two episodes left in the whole series or just this season?

Mother, did it need to be so high.

by salvotion on Sep 26, 2011 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oops. I'm not kba.

Mother, did it need to be so high.

by salvotion on Sep 26, 2011 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was just asking that...

I heard they signed on for a 16-episode 5th season but it really seems like it’s winding down.

Insane episode. Walt laughing was one of the creepiest things Ive ever seen.

Will work for Recs.

by Wieters Wieners on Sep 26, 2011 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

And the pan out with the room shaking.

Breaking Bad must be the reigning foreshadowing champ of TV.

Mother, did it need to be so high.

by salvotion on Sep 26, 2011 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

iirc, Walt was framed by the trapdoor, which stayed still,

while the camera panned out and the room surrounding the trapdoor shook. Pretty amazing shot. One of the best, if not the best, of the series.

Mother, did it need to be so high.

by salvotion on Sep 26, 2011 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

I suppose I did.

In related news, Gus is the baddest bad man since Marlo. He may even be better because you would never know from looking at him.

Mother, did it need to be so high.

by salvotion on Sep 26, 2011 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet

Omar was badder than Marlo

Will work for Recs.

by Wieters Wieners on Sep 26, 2011 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Omar's not really a villain, though.

More like an anti-hero.

Mother, did it need to be so high.

by salvotion on Sep 26, 2011 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

just watched the episode

wasn’t spinning, definitely shaking

by PhilR8 on Sep 27, 2011 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

seriously...

that show can be intense, but that was the most visually arresting episode i think i’ve seen

"the secret to a happy ending is knowing when to roll the credits"

by j.q. higgins on Sep 26, 2011 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, Vince is a wizard.

That shot zooming out made me feel totally creeped out and creepy about myself at the same time. My wife is outta town for a week so Im glad I watched it during the day (today) because I started the episode last night at midnight but fell asleep. I doubt I would have slept very well had I watched that right before bedtime.

Will work for Recs.

by Wieters Wieners on Sep 26, 2011 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

and they may have finally broken away from their addiction

to their “steady cam attached to an object” thing. Not that I don’t love that shot, but after ten different shots of it I think I’m good never seeing it again.

Jim: Why?
Gary: I don't know why.

by Andrew_G on Sep 26, 2011 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

spike lee's gift to cinematography?

"the secret to a happy ending is knowing when to roll the credits"

by j.q. higgins on Sep 26, 2011 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah

holy crap guys

Jim: Why?
Gary: I don't know why.

by Andrew_G on Sep 26, 2011 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey WW did you stick with Mad Men?

I just finished season one yesterday and I was kind of bored with it after 3 or 4 episodes, but I hung in there and I’m really enjoying it now.

Say no to Prince Fielder in 2012.

by Knubles and Bits on Sep 26, 2011 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nah

It’s really not my style man. I mean, I kinda get the luster there, but I just can’t get into the setting.

Will work for Recs.

by Wieters Wieners on Sep 26, 2011 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

I understand that.

Just saying that I kinda felt the same way at first, but I really started getting into the subplots. The show is all about the characters; the setting is just extra.

Say no to Prince Fielder in 2012.

by Knubles and Bits on Sep 26, 2011 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

NO BREAKING BAD ACK!

Giraffes have absurdly strong necks.

by Stacey on Sep 26, 2011 6:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Someone not caught up on her DVR yet?

"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King

by duck on Sep 26, 2011 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

that one I have to save to watch with the bf

otherwise I would have watched it last night. It’s definitely my favorite show that’s on TV right now.

Giraffes have absurdly strong necks.

by Stacey on Sep 26, 2011 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm gonna go ahead and pimp "Luther" again.

Idris Elba in the starring role, with a helluva protagonist matching him step for step.

"Human beings make life so interesting. Do you know, that in a universe so full of wonders, they have managed to invent boredom?" ~ Death

by NSOsFan on Sep 26, 2011 6:28 PM EDT reply actions  

So I went ahead and made my first ever blu ray purchase (They're just too damn expensive).

I snatched up the Star Wars saga in all of it’s hi-def glory (from Amazon; currently listed at $79.99, which is a steal). I’m halfway through Episode III since starting yesterday evening and the first three have looked excellent; even if they kinda suck. Looking forward to seeing what A New Hope looks like polished up.

Say no to Prince Fielder in 2012.

by Knubles and Bits on Sep 26, 2011 6:34 PM EDT reply actions  

Look forward to hearing Darth Vader's added scream towards the end of Return of the Jedi.

"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP

by Eat More Esskay on Sep 26, 2011 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can get past that.

Not going to ruin the movie for me.

Say no to Prince Fielder in 2012.

by Knubles and Bits on Sep 26, 2011 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

nooooooooooooooo

.com

Jim: Why?
Gary: I don't know why.

by Andrew_G on Sep 26, 2011 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

You know something worse than anything the Lucas has done over the years?

How come the Jedi can sense the force in every fucking person that has it, but Palpatine just walks around doing whatever the fuck he wants and no one has a clue?

Say no to Prince Fielder in 2012.

by Knubles and Bits on Sep 26, 2011 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, they offer a BS explanation in the prequels

saying that he was “clouding” their understanding of the force because he was so dark and powerful. It doesn’t really fit with the original trilogy’s interpretation of the force but, there it is.

by DaveAA on Sep 26, 2011 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I always wondered about this one:

Anakin was the chosen one and was said to bring balance to the force, yet they were shocked that he became bad? Um, guys? There were about 4,000 Jedi running around and about 3 bad guys (Maul, Grevous, Vader…). When it’s written in words as cryptic as “bring balance to the force” instead of saying “make the good guys win”, wouldn’t you wonder?

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Sep 26, 2011 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

But there is only ever 2 Sith

the master and the apprentice!

Say no to Prince Fielder in 2012.

by Knubles and Bits on Sep 26, 2011 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well that's pretty friggin unbalanced, no?

If I were the bad guys I’d alter that rule to “there can only be 47 sith at a time” because they’d win way more often that way.

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Sep 27, 2011 9:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, and obviously...

Vader wasn’t running around when they were talking about Anakin bringing about balance. You get my point though.

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Sep 27, 2011 9:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

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