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BALTIMORE, MD - SEPTEMBER 27: Nick Markakis #21 of the Baltimore Orioles celebrates after scoring a run with teammate Adam Jones #10 during the first inning against the Boston Red Sox at Oriole Park at Camden Yards on September 27, 2011 in Baltimore, Maryland.  (Photo by Rob Carr/Getty Images)


So, this is it. O's will end the season against Jon Lester. MacPhail regime reportedly will end soon. Lot of stuff coming down the pike, sports fans.

Orioles Insider: Will the Orioles finally beat Jon Lester? - Baltimore Orioles: Schedule, news, analysis and opinion on baseball at Camden Yards - baltimoresun.com Doesn't get too much more dramatic than this...okay, maybe it would if the O's actually had something to play for, but, y'know...

Steve Melewski: Britton reflects on his season and Jones on tonight's game
Even if the results weren't always the best, you've got to like what you see.

Orioles Leadership Notes: Showalter, MacPhail: MLB Rumors - MLBTradeRumors.com
A wrap up of the day's GM scuttlebutt.

From Ellicott City to the Major Leagues - Ellicott City, MD Patch
Hey! The play by play guy of the Rays is a local. Another reason to like them for those so inclined.

John Gordon: Ready for a final touch | StarTribune.com
And another tangential Orioles connection amongst the brotherhood of sports broadcasters.

Fan hopes crushed again as Orioles finish another losing season - baltimoresun.com
"Like many Orioles fans, Besore and his brother express their affection with gallows humor. "It's a tradition that at the end of the season, we wear the jerseys of guys who will excite us by not coming back," the Canton resident said." Sure enough, he was wearing Vlad's jersey. -duck

Robert Pattinson Pictures in LA With Orioles Cap There he goes again.

Birthday wishes to Mike DeJean and Todd Frohwirth.

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If the O's keep the sawx out...

I’ll remember that one moment longer into the off-season than i will the stench that was this season, because when it comes down to it, the Red Sox will have had the same amount of success as the O’s, which is to say, no post season. Screw Boston and screw Lester, beat their f’ing brains in!

P.S. Awesome at bat by AJ to end the game last night, i really thought when he worked it to 3-2 that he’d get that run in.

by Cal4Commish on Sep 28, 2011 8:09 AM EDT reply actions  

It would be a great culmination to one of the biggest collapses

in baseball history if Lester loses to the Orioles. I’ve got to believe that the Rays can win their game, in which the Yankees are starting the aptly named, Reliever Not-Appearing-on-the-Postseason-Roster.

I want the Orioles to win, and I want the Red Sox to miss the playoffs. But above that, I want Lester to be tagged with the loss. I am tired of hearing about his 14-0 record. It’s time to end this bullshit and crush some souls.

"Tiger got to hunt, bird got to fly; Man got to sit and wonder 'why, why, why?' Tiger got to sleep, bird got to land; Man got to tell himself he understand.."

by tflach2 on Sep 28, 2011 8:41 AM EDT reply actions  

This is so funny to me (from ESPN)...
It was widely reported last week that the Boston Red Sox were so desperate for starting pitching that they tried to pry left-hander Chris Capuano away from the New York Mets simply to make one start.

While that didn’t pan out, the Red Sox continue to keep an open mind about trading for a pitcher to start a possible one-game playoff against the Rays on Thursday, reports Rob Bradford of WEEI.com.

Any trade would have to be completed by the end of the business day on Wednesday.

Apparently they are looking at Bruce Chen.

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Sep 28, 2011 9:01 AM EDT reply actions  

Must think they are a rock star

Maybe they were inspired by the Flea interview where he described Joey Arkenstat coming over and dropping one on his living room floor.

Like a bad, suave dude. You know what I'm sayin'. COOL. SC 7/24/08

by 33 on Sep 28, 2011 9:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

The worst part is, today is "Grazefest"....

Since it’s the end of the fiscal year and some people are working long hours, everyone brings in their favorite dishes and we all just sit around eating until we can’t breathe.

Will work for Recs.

by Wieters Wieners on Sep 28, 2011 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Working hard.....or hardly working?

We work long hours every day with no sign of relief.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Sep 28, 2011 9:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

wtf???

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Sep 28, 2011 9:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's the strangest/funniest thing.

Im the youngest goofiest guy on the hall so right away everyone is like “JB DID IT!!!”

Luckily, I arrived this morning after it was already cleaned up.

Will work for Recs.

by Wieters Wieners on Sep 28, 2011 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

That's a sick joke.

I’m all for funny/goofy practical jokes (I’ve quickly been labeled as the goofball in our office), but anything with poop is gross.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Sep 28, 2011 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, it's totally horribly disgusting.

But hilarious at the same time one of these old crusty govie types would do such a thing. They had security up here examining it and everything.

Will work for Recs.

by Wieters Wieners on Sep 28, 2011 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

They can do DNA tests on that shit!

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Sep 28, 2011 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

If I worked with you,

I would definitely consider you guilty until proven innocent.

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Sep 28, 2011 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

WW wouldn't poop anywhere he couldn't sit comfortably and read sports columns.

"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP

by Eat More Esskay on Sep 28, 2011 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ha.... HALF!?!?? Sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeit....

I sit until my legs fall asleep. That’s my only time limit.

Will work for Recs.

by Wieters Wieners on Sep 28, 2011 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Haha "Rogue Pooper"

When I worked at our local church in HS, we had a homeless guy who we called “The Phantom Shitter” that would come in during mass and take dumps in closets, empty rooms, the most random places he could find.

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Sep 28, 2011 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

If I ran the Red Saux

I’d be filling planes, trains and buses with rabid fans and streaming them to Baltimore.

Let’s go O’s! For the Rays and underdogs everywhere!

"The key to winning baseball games is pitching, fundamentals, and three-run homers."

by ThreeRunHomer on Sep 28, 2011 9:18 AM EDT reply actions  

WW

NO or Chicago for survivor this week?

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Sep 28, 2011 9:56 AM EDT reply actions  

Im just taking GB

I know, I know… try and save some good teams, but I just want to advance. My strategy is just keep moving on and make the tough choices when I have to.

Will work for Recs.

by Wieters Wieners on Sep 28, 2011 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

I feel like GB has to lose at some point.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Sep 28, 2011 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

d'oh.

double post.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Sep 28, 2011 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

I feel like GB has to lose at some point.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Sep 28, 2011 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well, I'm strongly considering taking TB as well at home as a 10 pt fave.

They are a middle of the pack team so to grab em as a double digit fave this week might be a good thing. GB is a 13 point favorite, but I kind of want to save them.

Now Im really leaning towards TB the more I think about it.

Will work for Recs.

by Wieters Wieners on Sep 28, 2011 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

hop on board

there’s still plenty of room

clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...

by Gamecock24 on Sep 28, 2011 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

Tampa has been sub-par on both sides of the ball.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Sep 28, 2011 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

They should have no problem with Indy at home.

Chicago is a 6.5 pt fave this morning and Cam is a wildcard. Cutler has spent more time on his back than Anna Nicole Smith this season.

Will work for Recs.

by Wieters Wieners on Sep 28, 2011 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

He stayed on his feet against GB....

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Sep 28, 2011 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

Dude got sacked 3 times, had 2 INTs and led the team in rushing with 11 yards.

I’m not big on CHI yet at all.

Looks like it’ll be the first week we are in disagreement. Hope to see you on the other side brother (Desmond accent).

Will work for Recs.

by Wieters Wieners on Sep 28, 2011 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not big on CHI either.

I really not big on Tampa though.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Sep 28, 2011 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah i'm retarded

that’s what i get for drinking on a tuesday night

clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...

by Gamecock24 on Sep 28, 2011 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Please drink

responsibly.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Sep 28, 2011 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Can't wait until dollar beers for Caps games starts up.

That had a habit of raping me for the next day. Might have to cut down on that this year.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Sep 28, 2011 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

wait, what?

this sounds like a wonderfully bad idea.

"the secret to a happy ending is knowing when to roll the credits"

by j.q. higgins on Sep 28, 2011 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

YESSIR!

We should hit up a few of those this year. Its basically halfway between Leesburg and Sterling.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Sep 28, 2011 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sounds good brah...

I was there for probably 4-5 games last year. Bud Ice will get you smashed in a hurry though.

Will work for Recs.

by Wieters Wieners on Sep 28, 2011 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

I did about 10 games.

It’ll prolly be less this year though because my buddy who usually came with me (probably the only other person in Sterling over the age of 21 and under 25) moved to NYC for work.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Sep 28, 2011 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

Er...20 games.

I didn’t even drink last night and still can’t type.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Sep 28, 2011 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm leaning towards CHI.

They’re the top pick according to ESPN right now. NO and GB are right behind them. Tampa is further back in the pack. I’m not sold on Tampa being a decent team. Not if Josh Freeman is gonna trot out and throw like shit.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Sep 28, 2011 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't get that at all....

NO and CHI aren’t even TD faves. Thats risky to me.

TB and GB are both double digit faves. Not that that is the be all end all but still.

Will work for Recs.

by Wieters Wieners on Sep 28, 2011 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah but have you seen how bad Indy's offense is?

their two active QB’s for the game will probably be Painter and Orlovsky, that’s a recipe for disaster right there.

clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...

by Gamecock24 on Sep 28, 2011 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, and a Monday Night game

TB is gonna be rocking the ship.

Will work for Recs.

by Wieters Wieners on Sep 28, 2011 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

LeGarrette Blount should have a field day with the undersized Indy D

Passing game will be stifled but Blount should look like a man among boys against their run D. He’s a top fantasy RB this week as well in my book.

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Sep 28, 2011 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

apparently

Reshard Mendenhall didn’t get that memo.

by Cal4Commish on Sep 28, 2011 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rashard Mendenhall was a top ranked fantasy RB last week too.

That worked out well.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Sep 28, 2011 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I miss Todd Frohwirth

that wacky sine-wave slider he threw remains one of my all-time favorite pitches

by AndrewTorrez on Sep 28, 2011 10:12 AM EDT reply actions  

and...

mike dejean is one of my least favorite in a parade of shitty FA relievers over the last decade or so.

"the secret to a happy ending is knowing when to roll the credits"

by j.q. higgins on Sep 28, 2011 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, I give that one

to Steve Kline

Like a bad, suave dude. You know what I'm sayin'. COOL. SC 7/24/08

by 33 on Sep 28, 2011 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

oh, man...

that takes me back.

"the secret to a happy ending is knowing when to roll the credits"

by j.q. higgins on Sep 28, 2011 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jim Brower

He of the 13.86 ERA. A short stint with the O’s but so terrible while he was here that he should get a mention.

Mother, did it need to be so high.

by salvotion on Sep 28, 2011 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Shana Tova CC!

A happy (Jewish) new year!
Unfortunately, that means I’m internet deprived for the next 3 days, so in the meanwhile:
GO O’S!!!
GO RAYS!!!

War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Vlad is good.

by J(O's)elskIL on Sep 28, 2011 10:25 AM EDT reply actions  

Oh you guys and your wacky days

I bet you even have a different day for celebrating Christmas, don’t you?

"Human beings make life so interesting. Do you know, that in a universe so full of wonders, they have managed to invent boredom?" ~ Death

by NSOsFan on Sep 28, 2011 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

Chinese restaurant night.

That’s our day. It’s the only thing open on Christmas.

"Dyslexia?? It's DCO." - WestcoastO'sfan

by DCO'sfan on Sep 28, 2011 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

movies as well

"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and a little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott

by zknower on Sep 28, 2011 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

and Safeway until 5!

"Dyslexia?? It's DCO." - WestcoastO'sfan

by DCO'sfan on Sep 28, 2011 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

think california time....

…. Rosh Hashana doesn’t start here until after the O’s game is over.

"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and a little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott

by zknower on Sep 28, 2011 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

They turn off the internet in Israel?

Tough shit.

"Dyslexia?? It's DCO." - WestcoastO'sfan

by DCO'sfan on Sep 28, 2011 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

The internet was found out to contain 35% pork

Also, it was found to be on Palestine’s side in the recognized statehood debate. It was therefore krav maga’d to death and left in EJ.

"Human beings make life so interesting. Do you know, that in a universe so full of wonders, they have managed to invent boredom?" ~ Death

by NSOsFan on Sep 28, 2011 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

65% of it.

"Human beings make life so interesting. Do you know, that in a universe so full of wonders, they have managed to invent boredom?" ~ Death

by NSOsFan on Sep 28, 2011 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just don't take Google

Take Google and one 5 foot all teenager is going to have a big problem.

"Dyslexia?? It's DCO." - WestcoastO'sfan

by DCO'sfan on Sep 28, 2011 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sorry, only those 5'1" and above are considered people

Also excluded: hipsters and juggalos.

"Human beings make life so interesting. Do you know, that in a universe so full of wonders, they have managed to invent boredom?" ~ Death

by NSOsFan on Sep 28, 2011 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

I take offense.

Speaking of me being below average height… I’m taking Statistics this year and I learned about z-scores yesterday. The average woman’s height is about 65 inches (or that was our guess) and I’m 60 inches. So guess was my z-score is? -2! Yay. I’m below average. Meh.

"Dyslexia?? It's DCO." - WestcoastO'sfan

by DCO'sfan on Sep 28, 2011 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Below average in height

Napoleonic in attitude ;)

Oh wait, that was kinda height too. hehe

"Human beings make life so interesting. Do you know, that in a universe so full of wonders, they have managed to invent boredom?" ~ Death

by NSOsFan on Sep 28, 2011 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Napoleon was about 5'7"

so for his time, he was of average height.

But history’s written by the winners, and he didn’t win in the end, so, a short guy with an attitude problem he became.

"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King

by duck on Sep 29, 2011 7:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

In terms of "history writen by winners"

Richard III suffered more than anyone. After all, Henry VII’s granddaughter hired one hell of a ghost writer.

"If you don't like the effect, don't produce the cause."

- George Clinton

by sluggo 2.0 on Sep 29, 2011 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

take 65% of Google

i.e., “Goog”

"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and a little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott

by zknower on Sep 28, 2011 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Awful news at the office today

After we get through the rest of the calendar year, all non-essential work is officially suspended until the goddamn economy gets right again or we get another big fish investor. Time to start getting scared and update the resume.

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Sep 28, 2011 11:58 AM EDT reply actions  

Well quit shittin in your kitchen and no one will

"Human beings make life so interesting. Do you know, that in a universe so full of wonders, they have managed to invent boredom?" ~ Death

by NSOsFan on Sep 28, 2011 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

lame...

godspeed, astroman.

"the secret to a happy ending is knowing when to roll the credits"

by j.q. higgins on Sep 28, 2011 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

fuck man, sorry to hear that.

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Sep 28, 2011 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wheelin and Dealin

Just moved Stafford (Rivers starting) and Santana Moss for Stevie Johnson and Shonn Greene. Yesterday I chopped up Andre Johnson and turned him into Jason Witten, Tim Hightower, and LeGarrette Blount.

Reggie Bush and Dallas Clark will be burned at the stake and I’ll have an all-new team to try to climb out of my 0-3 hole with.

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Sep 28, 2011 12:38 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm not sold on Ryan Mathews yet

But if he’s running even remotely well Tolbery can’t be started.

Ocho is done.

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Sep 28, 2011 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

hahaha...

i’m going to start calling him tolberry.

"the secret to a happy ending is knowing when to roll the credits"

by j.q. higgins on Sep 28, 2011 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tolbery was averaging a paltry 2.1 YPG going into this week.

He’s done. I’m screwed because I got snookered (which never happens). For some reason I overlooked that detail when I made the trade about 8 days ago.

Will work for Recs.

by Wieters Wieners on Sep 28, 2011 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm pretty new to followign football and even newer to football stats so excuse the ignorance

How does SSS fit into football analysis? How much weight can you put on 3 games in a season?

Mother, did it need to be so high.

by salvotion on Sep 28, 2011 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Football is more about increasing/decreasing roles to project future performance.

Tolbert clearly looks like he’s losing market share to Ryan Matthews. Reggie Bush was projected to do much better than Daniel Thomas at the beginning but he has definitely lost his role entirely.

Will work for Recs.

by Wieters Wieners on Sep 28, 2011 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks.

So am I correct in assuming that roles do not change based on match ups, e.g., Bush getting more touches depending on the team he is playing against?

Mother, did it need to be so high.

by salvotion on Sep 28, 2011 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, that's a large part of it too.

A QB going against the Arizona secondary is obviously more likely to excel on a given Sunday. Sort of like any team going against Matusz right now.

Will work for Recs.

by Wieters Wieners on Sep 28, 2011 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

not necessarily

if a team has two running backs (one quicker, one more powerful), they will probably use the quicker one to get outside on a team with old/slow linebackers, and they will use the more powerful one against a team that they think is weak up the middle.

Or you can look at what happened in the Ravens game this past weekend, where they felt that the St. Louis secondary was slow and susceptible to deep passes, so they utilized their fastest receiver (Torrey Smith) to go deep more often.

clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...

by Gamecock24 on Sep 28, 2011 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

But, for fantasy's sake you look at guys who are gonna be getting increased touches.

David Nelson is a terrific example with a guy like Fitzpatrick tossing the ball all over the place and all the Buffalo WRs getting hurt. His role is going to expand greatly and he wasn’t even draftable in most leagues prior to the season.

The top guys are still usually gonna get theirs though barring injury.

Will work for Recs.

by Wieters Wieners on Sep 28, 2011 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Number of touches is key

Green Bay and New Orleans are arguably the best two teams in the league, but almost all of their RB’s and WR’s are risky fantasy plays because the ball gets spread around so much.

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Sep 28, 2011 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

i agree

i was just talking from more of a general football perspective as opposed to just fantasy since he said he just started following football all together.

clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...

by Gamecock24 on Sep 28, 2011 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm following football for fantasy purposes.

Just joined my first league this year. Just a work league so it’s not too intense and I have a very experienced FF friend helping a lot and doing most of the leg work. Trying to learn the ropes. Thanks, gents, for all your helpful info.

Mother, did it need to be so high.

by salvotion on Sep 28, 2011 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

One of my biggest pieces of advice

Is to keep your bench strong. Continue every week to upgrade even the last spots on your roster if you can through the waiver wire. Depth is HUGE because injuries come fast and furious and depth allows you to put together packages to trade other guys and upgrade your starters.

Will work for Recs.

by Wieters Wieners on Sep 28, 2011 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, but it's just so different than baseball stats.

Baseball is so much more individualized, whereas good systems in football can really make a player. WRs in NE can be artificially made by the system. Deion Branch last year came out of nowhere and had great stats. But plug him anywhere else and he isn’t sniffing the field.

Will work for Recs.

by Wieters Wieners on Sep 28, 2011 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is what makes my head hurt about football.

So much more difficult to judge skills of individual players. I don’t understand how to do that yet.

Mother, did it need to be so high.

by salvotion on Sep 28, 2011 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I still haven't figured it out four years later

FF definitely has a lot lot lot more luck involved than baseball in my opinion. I research baseball trends very closely and usually put together a formidable team in any league I’m in. Football is all about injuries and changing roles. It’s much harder to find that guy who will be consistent year in and year out.

That’s why AP is the #1 or #1 draft pick in football every year. There’s only a handful of players (outside of QB’s) without injury concerns that will put up solid numbers on a weekly basis for you, and he’s about as steady as it gets.

Just look at the top 5 RB’s this year. AP and Ray Rice are the only ones doing well, while Jamaal Charles is out for the year, and Arian Foster and Chris Johnson have done nothing yet.

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Sep 28, 2011 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

typos all over the place, my bad.

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Sep 28, 2011 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm usually always top 3-4 in my FF leagues.

If you really get after it and remain active on the free agent pickups from week to week, and continually try and trade your assets at their high points, you’ll generally end up with a solid team. I’m 2-1 in my league and spent 123 of my 200 dollars on Arian Foster and Jamaal Charles. I’ve been able to stay reasonably solid though by grabbing up David Nelson, Denarius Moore, Ben Tate and some others and trading them away for pieces to stay competitive. I’ve been kicked in the nuts by lady luck this season but I’m still hanging.

I just say that to say, it’s not all about luck. The people that let their benches rot will inevitably fall to the bottom when injuries/decreasing roles hit their team. The people who stay on top of it will be there in the end.

Will work for Recs.

by Wieters Wieners on Sep 28, 2011 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Eh

Where do you rank in the league in total points and total points against?

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Sep 28, 2011 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well

If that true, you must have really struck gold and hit on every last one of the gambles you snatched up with the remaining 33% of your draft money.

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Sep 28, 2011 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well

I have Flacco/Cutler as my QBs

MJD is my main RB and I got Fred Jackson in the auction for $12. And he’s been lights out.

I also got Welker for around $15 I think. And A.J. Green for $1 and he’s been solid for me. And the pickups and trades I’ve made (except the dumb one last week have worked out well). I’m a grinder. If MJD gets hurt, I’ll just keep grinding man. I have 3 backup RBs on my bench for injury prone starting RBs that will get a lot of work should any of them get hurt. So that could pan out later.

Will work for Recs.

by Wieters Wieners on Sep 28, 2011 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Whaaattt?

$200 total
$123 for Foster/Charles
$28 for those 3
That leaves $49.

You had to have spent $40 on MJD if the other two were $66 each. They’re the #1 and #3 RB’s and MJD is not far behind, probably around #7. So do you just have absolutely no receivers or TE?

Sounds fishy to me that you were able to spend 80% of your money on three RB’s and remain relevant.

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Sep 28, 2011 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dude

I spent $36 on MJD (he went towards the middle when a lot of money had been spent). The auction is alwasy fickle because people aren’t bringing guys out in order. Someone could throw a kicker or shitty WR at there first and Arian could come out 50th. So the buys depend a lot on everyone’s salary position when they are brought out.

I probably had my last 7 guys for $1. I got Balt’s D for $2 because you usually never spend more than $1 on a D. I got Plax for $1 (no one wanted him at all), my kicker for $1 (who I dropped right after Hartley got hurt and grabbed Kasay).

I can check the exact amounts, but those are the players I was able to get with my $200.

Will work for Recs.

by Wieters Wieners on Sep 28, 2011 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Also

I’ve made 23 moves thus far.

If you think I’m sitting here lying to an internet stranger on a baseball message board about my fake football team, than I don’t know what to tell you man.

I spent my big bucks on the 3 RBs, and then got two decent guys (Welker + Fred) and then a bunch of $1 guys. But Ive been making pickups and trading (trying to do the Dwight paperclip trick) every day. I’m crazy with this stuff. I literally spend at LEAST 10 hours a week on my team reading every ounce I can from Berry/Cockcroft/Harris and the rest of the guys.

Will work for Recs.

by Wieters Wieners on Sep 28, 2011 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Alright

I have the EXACT numbers for you (copied and pasted from Yahoo). They were a touch off, but pretty close:

The Infirmary
Budget $200
1. (10) Kyle Orton
(Den – QB) $1
2. (22) Arian Foster
(Hou – RB) $63
3. (34) Jamaal Charles
(KC – RB) $55
4. (46) Wes Welker
(NE – WR) $12
5. (58) Sidney Rice
(Sea – WR) $3
6. (70) Maurice Jones-Drew
(Jac – RB) $40
7. (82) Tony Moeaki
(KC – TE) $2
8. (94) Baltimore
(Bal – DEF) $2
9. (106) Mason Crosby
(GB – K) $4
10. (118) Daniel Thomas
(Mia – RB) $4
11. (130) Fred Jackson
(Buf – RB) $3
12. (142) Steve Smith
(Car – WR) $3
13. (154) Roy Williams
(Chi – WR) $2
14. (166) Plaxico Burress
(NYJ – WR) $2
15. (178) A.J. Green
(Cin – WR) $1

Will work for Recs.

by Wieters Wieners on Sep 28, 2011 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mason Crosby was an accident

Because I was hyping him to my newbie FF Packer buddy before the draft and he REALLY wanted him so I was trying to bluff him into paying $5, LOL. He didn’t bite and I got stuck with him. Horrible move. He was involved in my first trade before the season even started. I traded Daniel Thomas for Eli Manning straigh up, and then flipped Eli into Flacco. Wish I had Thomas back anyway.

Will work for Recs.

by Wieters Wieners on Sep 28, 2011 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Alright dude calm down.

This proves my point even more about luck though. You blew your wad on 3 players. Two of them haven’t panned out. And you got incredibly lucky that Fred Jackson and Wes Welker turned out to be two of the top fantasy studs this year. There was no indication of Jackson being anything this year, or Welker being anything more than an average WR1 or good WR2.

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Sep 28, 2011 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dude

Welker ain’t lucky… when he has been healthy he’s always been a fantasy asset. Maybe he’s overachieving a little, but he wasn’t a lucky pick. He’s a legit WR1/WR2 ANYTIME he’s healthy. And Plax/Moecki/Roy didn’t do dick for me and I’ve since dropped all three of them. That’s how it goes.

My only point was, if you just continually keep your roster as fresh as possible and spend some time going out to the other teams in your league and trying to make good swaps, you SHOULD be in the mix year in and year out, barring that 1 in 10 time when lady luck fucks you with effed up matchups over and over again.

Will work for Recs.

by Wieters Wieners on Sep 28, 2011 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

CALM!!!! I'M FUCKING CALM!!!!!

YOU CALM DOWN DICKWAD!!!!!!!!

Will work for Recs.

by Wieters Wieners on Sep 28, 2011 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

These numbers are totally photoshopped

I can tell by some of the pixels. You sir, are a liar.

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Sep 28, 2011 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dude, they're legit

I know you’re just ribbing me. I was spitting numbers I remembered off the top of my head after I haven’t seen them since draft day. I forgot Fred went so cheap. But that’s how auctions go. A few decent players always get left behind and come out late when hardly anyone has money to spend.

Will work for Recs.

by Wieters Wieners on Sep 28, 2011 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes that's true of all fantasy sports

And not to get into an OsFan21 semantics battle with you, but all’s I’m saying is you doing well right now because of Fred Jackson and Welker had a lot to do with luck, as does all of FF as a whole.

You didn’t draft them knowing they would be the best RB and WR in the game through 3 weeks, you drafted them because you strategized to spend big on 3 great players, and took a calculated risk and deemed them relatively cheap gambles. And both of those gambles paid off huge. And kudos to you for that.

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Sep 28, 2011 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

And likewise Roy/Plax/Moecki did jack and I dropped them.

But that was my strategy like you said. Buy the “3 headed monster”, which turned into the “1 headed monster” and then grab a half dozen guys I thought would be underrated and hope that at least a couple had stud seasons, and the rest replaced with up and comers (David Nelson/Denarius Moore).

Will work for Recs.

by Wieters Wieners on Sep 28, 2011 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's still early anyway..

An MJD injury could happen and that could be too much to overcome. But as of now, I’m just trying to grind until hopefully Arian gets healthy.

But the main point here to me, is that luck and injuries are going to have a lot to do with it. But you can offset a lot of that risk with keeping your depth strong and handcuffing where you can etc. I was the first to nab Tate before the season started when I started hearing about Arians troubles. It’s hard to WIN based on skill alone, but it’s not impossible to continually be competitive despite luck.

Will work for Recs.

by Wieters Wieners on Sep 28, 2011 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Now THAT

Is an excellently constructed final argument that I can get behind.

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Sep 28, 2011 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

aw that was a cute conclusion

a lot better than O’sFan21 and birdman yesterday

clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...

by Gamecock24 on Sep 28, 2011 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, that a real hoot yesterday.

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Sep 28, 2011 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Haha

I missed the dramatic ending. Maybe I should go back and recap if it’s that good.

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Sep 28, 2011 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

i don't even know if it was good

it just went on forrrreevvvverrrrr

clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...

by Gamecock24 on Sep 28, 2011 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

definitely not good

i’m not even sure what the hell was being argued!

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Sep 28, 2011 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can recap.

Speculation is for losers. Don’t post anything unless you are the GM of a baseball team.

Mother, did it need to be so high.

by salvotion on Sep 28, 2011 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Also

Motherfucker.

"Human beings make life so interesting. Do you know, that in a universe so full of wonders, they have managed to invent boredom?" ~ Death

by NSOsFan on Sep 28, 2011 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

And

Hit the weight room, you scrawny armed weakling.

Mother, did it need to be so high.

by salvotion on Sep 28, 2011 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

good one folks.

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Sep 28, 2011 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

this

one of the issues with fantasy football is that it’s so match-up dependent. you can score the second highest point total one week but still lose cause you played the one guy that scored higher. meanwhile, some guy that scored half as many points gets a win cause he played against another weak opponent.

this isn’t as huge of a problem in baseball because the season is so much longer that it kind of normalizes itself over the course of the season.

clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...

by Gamecock24 on Sep 28, 2011 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah

Every year a team usually will get screwed based on matchup luck. But generally (90+%) of the time, the truly good teams will be make the playoffs. We have 6 out of 12 make the playoffs, with the division winners getting first round byes.

Will work for Recs.

by Wieters Wieners on Sep 28, 2011 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

In my extensive three game FF career, this happened to me already.

Thankfully, I came out on top both times. This week, I had highest point total and beat the third highest team. First week, I had the second lowest total and beat the lowest total. Weird stuff.

Mother, did it need to be so high.

by salvotion on Sep 28, 2011 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah that stuff happens

I have always been of the mindset that head to head is more fun and exciting than roto, even though roto is more fair. But yes it seems that at least one person gets hosed every year in fantasy for that reason.

I have the 4th lowest point total, so I have no right to be doing better than my 0-3 record, but I also have the second highest points against. The three people with lower point totals than me are 1-2, 2-1, and 2-1

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Sep 28, 2011 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yup

Usually it happens to someone. Our 3rd highest point total in our league is now 0-3.

His team is solid though and I think he’ll make it to the playoffs. Still have 10-11 more weeks to even things out.

Will work for Recs.

by Wieters Wieners on Sep 28, 2011 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's the same in baseball

How about just about every person in the Yankees lineup or rotation being a fantasy asset just because of the lineup support around them

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Sep 28, 2011 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Also because most of them are really good hitters.

You can’t just toss Garret Atkins on the Yanks and watch him produce. But some NFL systems breed 1,000 yard backs EVERY season simply because of the system itself.

Will work for Recs.

by Wieters Wieners on Sep 28, 2011 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

But no study has shown protection results in any significant statistical change.

http://www.insidethebook.com/ee/index.php/site/ken_singleton_and_plate_discipline/P20/

So theoretically, it shouldn’t matter much what lineup a Yankee player is in. Of course, it does matter in some way, just no stats to show how yet.

Mother, did it need to be so high.

by salvotion on Sep 28, 2011 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

When you're playing a game where Wins and RBI's matter, I guess your supporting cast matters me

YaKnow?

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Sep 28, 2011 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

matters more*

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Sep 28, 2011 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

You're telling me

Stupid Reggie

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Sep 28, 2011 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Got snookered huh?

Sounds uncomfortable.

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Sep 28, 2011 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

illegal in 27 states!

faux/real!

"the secret to a happy ending is knowing when to roll the credits"

by j.q. higgins on Sep 28, 2011 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

How times have changed

9/28/41 – Ted Williams secures a .400 avg in his 1st AB of a doubleheader, and demands to play all of both games, getting 5 more hits & ending up .406

9/28/11 – Jose Reyes gets a bunt single in his 1st AB to win the batting title & leaves the game.

GO RYAN BRAUN!

While I’m at it -

GO ALFREDO SIMON!
GO JAMES SHIELDS!

"If you don't like the effect, don't produce the cause."

- George Clinton

by sluggo 2.0 on Sep 28, 2011 3:28 PM EDT reply actions  

That's super weak

I wanted Matt Kemp to get the triple crown. He’s a sweet dude, an excellent player, and didn’t miss 30 games like Reyes.

by Cal4Commish on Sep 28, 2011 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sorry, caught up in the excitement

GO DAVID PRICE!

"If you don't like the effect, don't produce the cause."

- George Clinton

by sluggo 2.0 on Sep 28, 2011 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well NY is starting most of their regular lineup

but their starting pitcher is perennial all star favourite Delan Betances, followed, so said Girardi, by “only those not on the post season roster”.

"If you don't like the effect, don't produce the cause."

- George Clinton

by sluggo 2.0 on Sep 28, 2011 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Betances was a Top 100 prospect coming into the season.

But he’s walked a lot of guys this year, so I don’t know what his prospect status is now, and he probably won’t have an easy time tonight.

by ahoque24 on Sep 28, 2011 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

KBA

Or any other Radiohead fans: Did anyone watch the Colbert Report special with them on Monday?

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Sep 28, 2011 3:38 PM EDT reply actions  

saw neither that...

nor snl.

they good.

"the secret to a happy ending is knowing when to roll the credits"

by j.q. higgins on Sep 28, 2011 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I did

that interview was super awkward

by kba26 on Sep 28, 2011 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm so jacked about tonight's game.

Lester has a 10+ ERA in his last 3. I really think we can knock em out and I want to be the ones to do it. Not wait for TB to do it in the one-game playoff tomorrow.

Seriously, I fucking want this.

One time weaksauce…. one damn time.

Will work for Recs.

by Wieters Wieners on Sep 28, 2011 3:54 PM EDT reply actions  

i want papelbon on the mound as he gives up a walk off homer to craig tatum, thus losing the playoff spot.

unfortunately, i’m not if anus face is available tonight.

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Sep 28, 2011 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Random True Thing

McDonald’s used to have lil spoons as coffee stirrers, which they dicontinued because they were perfect for cocaine

"Human beings make life so interesting. Do you know, that in a universe so full of wonders, they have managed to invent boredom?" ~ Death

by NSOsFan on Sep 28, 2011 4:01 PM EDT reply actions  

Whenever I hit "reply"

my subject line is suddenly pre-populated with the word “Subject”.

Is this happening to anybody else? And is it really necessary?

"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and a little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott

by zknower on Sep 28, 2011 4:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Subject

I liked Robert Andino before it was cool to like Robert Andino.

by WestcoastO'sFan on Sep 28, 2011 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Same for me.

I guess it started with the “Subject (optional)…message” thing and they’ve changed to this.

by ahoque24 on Sep 28, 2011 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's obvious that they think we're really dumb

And don’t realize that we figure this shit out on our own.

"Dyslexia?? It's DCO." - WestcoastO'sfan

by DCO'sfan on Sep 28, 2011 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

A note for the pre-game

The Orioles have defeated the Red Sox only once when Lester starts. In that game, Jay Payton hit a memorable (I can still picture it quite clearly, in fact) grand slam off Hideki Okajima. Lester got a no decision. Daniel Cabrera got the win.

Jim: Why?
Gary: I don't know why.

by Andrew_G on Sep 28, 2011 4:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Holy shit, you guys realize this is the last day of Vlad?

I liked Robert Andino before it was cool to like Robert Andino.

by WestcoastO'sFan on Sep 28, 2011 5:04 PM EDT reply actions  

Yes.

One of my nightmares has been Buck gets GM, immediately resigns Vlad and shoves him in the 4 hole for all 2012. The horror. Oh, the horror!

Mother, did it need to be so high.

by salvotion on Sep 28, 2011 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Friday the 13th already past in May

I think we’re safe.

"Dyslexia?? It's DCO." - WestcoastO'sfan

by DCO'sfan on Sep 28, 2011 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Next one is in January

"Human beings make life so interesting. Do you know, that in a universe so full of wonders, they have managed to invent boredom?" ~ Death

by NSOsFan on Sep 28, 2011 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

you can't guarantee this, alas

"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and a little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott

by zknower on Sep 28, 2011 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wish Ryan Adams had gotten a better look at 2nd

I really can’t stand the fact that Chris Davis is getting such preferential treatment.

I liked Robert Andino before it was cool to like Robert Andino.

by WestcoastO'sFan on Sep 28, 2011 5:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Ryan Adams was dealing with a hernia.

"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP

by Eat More Esskay on Sep 28, 2011 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ryan Adams can herniate! Deal with it!

"Human beings make life so interesting. Do you know, that in a universe so full of wonders, they have managed to invent boredom?" ~ Death

by NSOsFan on Sep 28, 2011 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

but so is Davis!

Jim: Why?
Gary: I don't know why.

by Andrew_G on Sep 28, 2011 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

but is it a SPORTS hernia?!

"the secret to a happy ending is knowing when to roll the credits"

by j.q. higgins on Sep 28, 2011 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

More fuckery: Via D. Connolly

“Chris davis will have hernia surgery after the season, showalter said.”

“Matt angle will go to instructional league to work at second base w mike bordick and bobby dickerson. Os want to see how he looks at 2nd” – I’m speechless at this.

I liked Robert Andino before it was cool to like Robert Andino.

by WestcoastO'sFan on Sep 28, 2011 5:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Me either.

But fuck Chris Davis. He sucks.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Sep 28, 2011 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

B/c we have Dino and Adams, why do we need Angle to play 2nd?

He should focus on his defense since he has good speed as an outfielder and could be a decent 4th outfielder, pinch runner type, so why fuck him up by trying to teach him 2nd?

I liked Robert Andino before it was cool to like Robert Andino.

by WestcoastO'sFan on Sep 28, 2011 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Because 4th outfielders are really cheap and expendable

His bat plays much better at 2nd than it does especially in LF (since he’s not supplanting Jones in center). And they aren’t talking about taking any at-bats away from Andino or Adams, so its not like its harming them any. If it works out, then he’s potentially a more useful piece, and maybe even somewhat attractive trade bait if we really do end up with a logjam at 2nd. If it doesn’t, its only a few weeks or months of instructional league ball and he can back to the outfield in the spring.

by kba26 on Sep 28, 2011 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think trade bait is really stretching it with Matt Angle.

It just seems like they are refusing to give Dino the 2nd position for next year, between this and Buck talking about putting him in left. He has 450 AB’s I don’t get why we aren’t sure about him (by we I mean the FO+Buck). Meanwhile, this goofball is blindly accepted as a great power hitter who needs to be in the lineup.

I liked Robert Andino before it was cool to like Robert Andino.

by WestcoastO'sFan on Sep 28, 2011 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Angle has good patience.

If he can learn to play 2nd somewhat, his bat and speed might combine to turn him into trade bait. Not great, net you an A-level prospect trade bait, of course, but still trade bait. I used the phrase trade bait 3 times in two sentences. Now 4 in 3. Trade bait.

by ahoque24 on Sep 28, 2011 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

You know what sucks about going to a synagogue that's affiliated with hippie Judaism?

If you have a halfway decent voice and your parents are members of the community, a teenager can be duped into leading services. Yes, I’m talking about me. I learned that I’m leading Torah service on second day Rosh Hashanah (granted it was a while ago) and with college applications, procrastinitis etc. I haven’t had time to prepare. I’m leading on Friday, and I’m supposed to be preparing now. Too. Many. Distractions. Damn, I wish I had no internet. Off to Israel?

"Dyslexia?? It's DCO." - WestcoastO'sfan

by DCO'sfan on Sep 28, 2011 5:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Throw in some weird stuff

“In the year 2525….”

"Human beings make life so interesting. Do you know, that in a universe so full of wonders, they have managed to invent boredom?" ~ Death

by NSOsFan on Sep 28, 2011 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm also asking Ryan Kerrigan to take me to prom

Formal letter and everything. Yeah, I’m crazy. Deal with it.

"Dyslexia?? It's DCO." - WestcoastO'sfan

by DCO'sfan on Sep 28, 2011 6:00 PM EDT reply actions  

You should record a youtube video.

It worked for those Marines with Mila Kunis and Justin Timberlake.

"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP

by Eat More Esskay on Sep 28, 2011 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was actually thinking of doing that.

But I decided that if it were to somehow reach the sports blog-o-sphere I’d rather not have my face attached to it. So a letter is best.

"Dyslexia?? It's DCO." - WestcoastO'sfan

by DCO'sfan on Sep 28, 2011 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

post the letter

we can offer feedback.

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Sep 28, 2011 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

ok!

Here it is:

Dear Ryan,

My name is Ilana and I’m a high school senior at [insert school because I don’t want people to know where I go]. At my school, we graduate after one semester because we go on a 3 1/2 month trip to Israel for the rest of the year. Prom is in February, and I’m really worried that I will have no one to go with. I love the Redskins, and you’re definitely my new favorite player. I know this is going to sound crazy, but will you go to prom with me? I completely understand if you say no, but it would be so awesome!

Thanks for reading,
Ilana

(I’ll add more, but this is what I have so far)

"Dyslexia?? It's DCO." - WestcoastO'sfan

by DCO'sfan on Sep 28, 2011 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

You're Rahm Emanuel's daughter, aren't you!

He has a daughter named Ilana.

Nah, she’s younger than you.

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by zknower on Sep 28, 2011 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Close

They go to my school (or did if he still lives in Washington).

"Dyslexia?? It's DCO." - WestcoastO'sfan

by DCO'sfan on Sep 28, 2011 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

good luck!

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Sep 28, 2011 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

that's awesome...

he’s a very handsome man. no doubt, well-mannered, being a middle american engineer.

"the secret to a happy ending is knowing when to roll the credits"

by j.q. higgins on Sep 28, 2011 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know right?

I was also considering Roy Helu, but he looks a lot older than Kerrigan for some reason.

"Dyslexia?? It's DCO." - WestcoastO'sfan

by DCO'sfan on Sep 28, 2011 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

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