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I don't know who "neal s" is writing over at The Loss Column

but if he thinks that we should keep AJ because of his personality, well I guess he not exactly on the saber-savvy side of the fanbase.

I sometimes wonder if some fans even want the O’s to succeed. I just don’t get it. Trading AJ will make the team better when it matters. Period. End of discussion.

I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James

by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 10, 2012 7:36 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

I enjoy this comment for reasons I don't want to post on the internet

but I’ll rec it none the less

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Jan 10, 2012 7:51 AM EST up reply actions  

In a way, I get what he's saying.

There is a balance between loading up on future prospects and keeping a viable, interesting team that will draw fans right now. If it was only about trading away a valuable player to potentially get better in the future, our best trade chip right now is probably Wieters. But, most O’s fans (including myself) would react with horror if this was even suggested. Not because he will bring immediate success, but because he’s a great player who keeps us interested in the current team.

I’m probably not expressing myself well, and I don’t necessarily agree that we should keep AJ, but I understand that it isn’t always totally about the numbers.

"Work fast. Throw strikes. Change speeds." Ray Miller

by Zeke McGeek on Jan 10, 2012 8:03 AM EST up reply actions  

Duly noted in the minutes.

"Work fast. Throw strikes. Change speeds." Ray Miller

by Zeke McGeek on Jan 10, 2012 8:18 AM EST up reply actions  

I agree it's not all about the numbers.

Sports is entertainment. An interesting, bad team is better than a boring bad team. The only reason not to trade SHJ right now is because a) I think his value will go up and b) there is a chance he might still be around when we are ready to compete.

I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James

by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 10, 2012 8:07 AM EST up reply actions  

But AJ is at the height of his value right now IMHO and won’t be on the O’s when we compete unless we sign him to a huge extension.

I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James

by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 10, 2012 8:08 AM EST up reply actions  

I agree with you 100%.

But, I also understand when someone just “likes” a certain player for non-statistical reasons. I appreciate the fact that he doesn’t try to make AJ out to be a better player than the stats suggest, but he’d still like to see him on the team.

"Work fast. Throw strikes. Change speeds." Ray Miller

by Zeke McGeek on Jan 10, 2012 8:16 AM EST up reply actions  

For my take on this blog I point you to the following from the article

Exhibit A – Decent hauls are exciting

There’s no doubt he’s one of the team’s best trade chips and could bring a decent haul in return. And, yes, a team in dire straits like the Orioles has to do the due diligence of considering any and every offer

Exhbit B- He is not on the Angels or Mets or the front of Sportscenter because he is on the orioles

Put him on the Mets or Angels and I can guarantee he eventually lands in the front segment on SportsCenter for blowing a bubble while authoring a Web Gem

Exhibit C – So is his personality really worth that much to the Orioles?

Jones’ personality isn’t worth as much on a bad team as it would be on a good one

Exhibit D – ….How will we get to respectability without bringing in prospects….

Hope that by year two or three of that deal the team is back to respectability.

Case closed.

by Benhem612 on Jan 10, 2012 9:53 AM EST up reply actions  

"liking" a certain play for non-statistical reasons should be left up to the fans

the management of the team should be trying to win no matter what.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Jan 10, 2012 11:33 AM EST up reply actions  

I side with this.

I hate seeing certain players leave and I have my quirky players who i enjoy but I understand if a player has to go in order for the team to improve and move forward. Example? One of my favorite players that I liked for non-statistical reasons was David Newhan. I saw his first homerun and the homer in me thought man that guy can smack the ball, I shall now think he is awesome no matter what evidence is placed before me that he isn’t.

by Benhem612 on Jan 10, 2012 12:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Newhan is the ultimate badass

The man has cheated death and is primed for a MLB comeback.

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 10, 2012 12:51 PM EST up reply actions  

See - Forever Awesome no matter what.

This story is pretty crazy, I still have to go with Rulon Gardner as ultimate badass however.

1. Crashed snowmobile in lake, survives all night and loses toe to frostbite
2. Stops Alexander Kerelin’s 13 year win streak
3. On a plane that crashes into an icy lake, swims to shore survives all night in sub zero.
4. Defeated by biggest loser (D’oh!)

http://www.nationalgeographic.com/adventure/survival/skills/rulon-gardner.html

by Benhem612 on Jan 10, 2012 1:01 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

day-umn

Some people just have an unreal tolerance for pain. My buddy broke his collarbone skiing two years ago (and we all knew it right away too) and he waited two days to go to the hospital cuz he didn’t want to miss the rest of the trip and a Ravens playoff game.

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 10, 2012 1:06 PM EST up reply actions  

I heard the other day of a women who got shot in the eye.

She refused all treatment until she had finished her beer.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 10, 2012 1:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Screw David Newhan

He is not a fan of the O’s at all

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Jan 10, 2012 12:56 PM EST up reply actions  

I think the bigger problem is when fans and FO allow themselves to be blinded

to a player’s actual talent level by his personality/ marketability/ whatever.

I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James

by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 10, 2012 1:04 PM EST up reply actions  

personally the bubble blowing is annoying to me

and leads me to think more ill of Jones than think he has great personality.

by Benhem612 on Jan 10, 2012 1:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Absolutely. The question is would Jones want to re-sign an extension with this team. I don’t think so. He should be moved while he could still fetch a few players.

"Have a good time...all the time." - Viv Savage

by Jergs on Jan 10, 2012 2:08 PM EST up reply actions  

The idea of that kind of balance only exists for losing teams

You’re either building to win, already built to win, or your losing. The idea of that balance is why we didn’t trade Brian Roberts when we would have, why we extended Markakis when we should have shopped him, etc etc on down the line.

The comparison to wieters is different in that he might actually be good enough to build around.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Jan 10, 2012 11:32 AM EST up reply actions  

I'd say keep him until close to orat the trade deadline

Can’t hurt to see if he will build upon the last few seasons, at least offensively, to make him look like the real deal to some Bavasi out there. If he’s able to get a haul, then trade him. I think he’s still on the way up.

When the fuck did we get ice cream???

by NSOsFan on Jan 10, 2012 10:20 AM EST up reply actions  

A Lot Of Us Are Caught In Neal's Position

On the one hand, I recognize that Jones isn’t good enough to warrant keeping him just for the fans. He could get us multiple prospects and maybe even a real pitcher. I was super critical of the Jurrjens trade and while I stand by my belief that Jurrjens is overrated, I think the Jurrjens/Prado/prospect package was kinda awesome.
I DO want the O’s to succeed, but I just wish I could see them do it with my favorite players still on board. Even if they’re my favorite players just because they blow bubbles, are clutch hitters, and make their position look much harder (though sweeter) than it actually is.

by Bird of Pray on Jan 10, 2012 11:09 AM EST up reply actions  

So,

how long until Roch uses “Weighing in on Chen” as a headline?

"Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs." -- Earl Weaver

by Vuff on Jan 10, 2012 7:49 AM EST reply actions  

I already did it...

My girlfriend even called that one before it happened.
But you gotta use his full name. Weighing in on Wei Yin.
Also note that if googled, a super hot piano player named Weiyin comes up quite a bit. I think Duquette should sign her too…
http://www.weiyinchen.com/images/photo-weiyenchen.jpg

by Bird of Pray on Jan 10, 2012 11:05 AM EST up reply actions  

Great short film, take 10 min. to see it.

Plot Device

I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James

by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 10, 2012 7:59 AM EST reply actions  

It's an informerical for a editing suite

but it’s really good. Check out the “Making Of” vid, too.

"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.

by duck on Jan 10, 2012 8:32 AM EST up reply actions  

Oh, I didn't realize. Cool

I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James

by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 10, 2012 8:35 AM EST up reply actions  

Speaking of not Saber-saavy

That free agent piece sure is bad. With gems like this:

Every team he has played on since 2004 has been a contending team. The last two years he played for Cincinnati and Cleveland. Both of those teams had their first successful seasons in a long time. Coincidence? I think not.

and

I think Saunders fits well with the Orioles, but only if Guthrie is traded. Those two guys are just too much alike production wise. You don’t want to have multiple mediocre, inning eating, #5 pitchers.

Plus calling Cespedes the next Griffy Junior, saying that Vlad was good because he batted .290, and saying that signing Fielder will ‘pay for itself.’

Ugh.

by KyleAskine on Jan 10, 2012 8:31 AM EST reply actions  

And we should definitely sign Raul Ibanez

because I really like to say his name.

Row -OOOOOOOOOOLLLLLL i-BONNNN-yezzzzzzzzzzz.

My wife always gives me “the look” when he comes to bat, because she knows I’m gonna say that.

"Work fast. Throw strikes. Change speeds." Ray Miller

by Zeke McGeek on Jan 10, 2012 8:39 AM EST up reply actions  

If I ever became a professional athelete

I definitely would have changed my name to something with an ooo sound it so i could feel like i always had the crowds support, even when they tried to boo me.

by kba26 on Jan 10, 2012 8:42 AM EST up reply actions  

Great idea.

Boog Powell was way ahead of his time.

"Work fast. Throw strikes. Change speeds." Ray Miller

by Zeke McGeek on Jan 10, 2012 8:45 AM EST up reply actions  

“No they are saying boo-urns.”

by KyleAskine on Jan 10, 2012 8:47 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

“Mattingly! I told you to shave those sideburns!”

"Work fast. Throw strikes. Change speeds." Ray Miller

by Zeke McGeek on Jan 10, 2012 8:56 AM EST up reply actions  

My favorite exchange from that episode.
Barney: And I say, England’s greatest Prime Minister was Lord Palmerston!
Wade Boggs: Pitt the Elder!!
Barney: Lord Palmerston!!!
Wade Boggs: Pitt the Elder!!!! [pokes Barney]
Barney: Okay, you asked for it, bud! [punches him out]
Moe: Yeah, that’s showing him, Barney! [scoffing] Pitt the Elder…
Barney: Lord Palmerston!!!! [punches Moe]

by ahoque24 on Jan 10, 2012 2:29 PM EST up reply actions  

You see, Strawberry, you're left-handed, and the pitcher is left-handed

If I pinch-hit for you with a right-handed batter, it’s called ‘playing the percentages.’ It’s what smart coaches to do win ball games.

Or:

Homer: “Strawberry? You play right field. I play right field!”

Strawberry: “So?”

Homer: “So, are you better than me?”

Strawberry: “Well, I don’t know you, but… yes.”

by AndrewTorrez on Jan 10, 2012 2:44 PM EST up reply actions  

this

Your cannonball trajectory, it always gave me hope

by Andrew_G on Jan 10, 2012 3:11 PM EST up reply actions  

what would homer think...

of his denver broncos now?

"Three thousand years of beautiful tradition,from Moses to Sandy Koufax,YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT I'M LIVING IN THE FUCKING PAST!"- Walter Sobchak

by j.q. higgins on Jan 10, 2012 3:36 PM EST up reply actions  

That was always one of my favorite scenes

I’m laughing now just thinking about it.

"Work fast. Throw strikes. Change speeds." Ray Miller

by Zeke McGeek on Jan 10, 2012 3:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Not to mention...

…another go-around with Tejada (wait, what?) and post-2011 Vlad and Manny, going after Wakefield… To each their own, I guess :)

by zsiv on Jan 10, 2012 8:52 AM EST up reply actions  

that's not not sabr-savvy

that’s just stupid

Your cannonball trajectory, it always gave me hope

by Andrew_G on Jan 10, 2012 8:53 AM EST up reply actions  

haha Cespedes is the next Griffey Jr. minus

except for the fact that Griffey already had three 1.000+ OPS seasons and three 40 HR major league seasons by the time he was Cespedes’ age including leading the league once each in HRs and total bases.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Jan 10, 2012 11:40 AM EST up reply actions  

Not to mention this nugget:
Third Base: I don’t think Chris Davis will hold up defensively here. I would rather see Reynolds play here.

Just because you know how to read, doesn't mean you'll like the book.

by arlingtonOsFan on Jan 10, 2012 12:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Chris Davis sucks.

It probably doesn’t matter which of those guys plays. Either way, the defense will suck.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 10, 2012 12:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Good news!

Davis at Third, Reynolds at First! Playoffs here we go!

Seriously though, if the O’s picked up one decent corner, would we settle for Reynolds at the other corner?

In a perfect world, my answer would be no, upgrade them both. And in the end it would mean nothing unless we get a couple of quality, “can compete in the AL East” number 1 and 2 starters.

by Steven_G on Jan 10, 2012 3:43 PM EST up reply actions  

I could live with Reynolds at 1B

"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.

by duck on Jan 10, 2012 7:54 PM EST up reply actions  

I actually think Reynolds has the tools to be a good defensive 1B

he was never “oh god, don’t hit it to Mark” bad at 3B until last year.

by AndrewTorrez on Jan 10, 2012 8:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes

Reynolds at first. Andino was pretty good at 3rd last year. Let Ryan Adams and Matt Antonelli compete for the job at 2nd. I’m assuming we’ll never see Roberts play another game.

I don’t know what to do with Davis. He was a good hitter for 80 games in 2008, and has since turned to shit.

by nattybroh on Jan 11, 2012 8:01 AM EST up reply actions  

Broke 1000 comments yesterday!

Everyone give yourselves a pat on the back

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 10, 2012 8:56 AM EST reply actions  

No. Thank Tim Tebow, the real hero.

I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James

by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 10, 2012 9:03 AM EST up reply actions  

Tebow NFL = John Cena WWE

Discuss.

When the fuck did we get ice cream???

by NSOsFan on Jan 10, 2012 12:06 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Not so!

Tebow knows more than 2 moves.

"You should put the secret group of people that you carry with you on your tech equipment second to the person you're sitting with."

- Merrill Markoe

by sluggo 2.0 on Jan 10, 2012 12:29 PM EST up reply actions  

John Cena KIILLS me.

I can see where there is some sort of comparison between the two. John cena is loved by a sample of the population (young women, kids) and hated by the other section (adult males) however he continues to sell merchandise so he is consistently a staple of the product. He even had a stretch where he was unbeatable for a period of YEARS. He isnt good at what he does and only can pull off a handful of moves.

actually this is kinda sounding like Tebow…. hmmmm

"I don't have an on-deck circle for ideas. It's just 'Batter up!!' Even though they're bad" - Mike Birbiglia

by Parkinglotninja on Jan 10, 2012 12:30 PM EST up reply actions  

I'll see that & raise you Hogan

"You should put the secret group of people that you carry with you on your tech equipment second to the person you're sitting with."

- Merrill Markoe

by sluggo 2.0 on Jan 10, 2012 12:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Just the opposite

The gap between skill & popularity was even greater with Hogan.

At least Mick could get a good garbage match out of the Rock.

"You should put the secret group of people that you carry with you on your tech equipment second to the person you're sitting with."

- Merrill Markoe

by sluggo 2.0 on Jan 10, 2012 12:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh. Yeah. I was going to say.

But, I could wrestle Mick and it would stand a good chance of being amazing. All you had to do is toss him off something huge.

by DaveAA on Jan 10, 2012 12:41 PM EST up reply actions  

"I can't jump high, so I jump from high places."

"You should put the secret group of people that you carry with you on your tech equipment second to the person you're sitting with."

- Merrill Markoe

by sluggo 2.0 on Jan 10, 2012 12:42 PM EST up reply actions  

While we're at it

this is why Vince bought all the WCW material

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZALt85xBMg

so a fat white guy could use Ernest “the Cat” Miller’s theme song.

"You should put the secret group of people that you carry with you on your tech equipment second to the person you're sitting with."

- Merrill Markoe

by sluggo 2.0 on Jan 10, 2012 1:21 PM EST up reply actions  

a very true statement..

"I don't have an on-deck circle for ideas. It's just 'Batter up!!' Even though they're bad" - Mike Birbiglia

by Parkinglotninja on Jan 10, 2012 12:37 PM EST up reply actions  

At least The Rock went heel for a while.

"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP

by Eat More Esskay on Jan 10, 2012 12:42 PM EST up reply actions  

So... are you saying the NFL is rigged?

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 10, 2012 12:52 PM EST up reply actions  

The fix is in!

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 10, 2012 12:53 PM EST up reply actions  

I saw that and started to read through some of it

Needless to say, I stopped reading after the Tebow/O’sfan discussion.

by IggesRule13 on Jan 10, 2012 9:05 AM EST up reply actions  

Because I was clearly the only one talking about that!

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Jan 10, 2012 11:55 AM EST up reply actions  

I just watched that movie the other day

The entire time I was watching it I thought I was missing something. The drive seens were cool though.

by IggesRule13 on Jan 10, 2012 9:09 AM EST up reply actions  

What do you think I was missing?

They should have just named it Grand Theft Auto. I always felt like there was a deeper meaning thing trying to happen. I just didn’t get it.

I like the action (driving/killing) but I hated the awkward scenes with the driver guy and his neighbor. I didn’t understand why he was in love with her, especially enough to fight the Mob to save her bf.

by IggesRule13 on Jan 10, 2012 9:17 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, charactar development was horrendous.

I really didn’t give a shit if Gosling lived or died. They never even made me hate the bad guys that much. Everyone was awkward. The gore was just forced for shock value. D+ only for a couple good DRIVE scenes.

Will work for Recs.

by Wieters Wieners on Jan 10, 2012 9:19 AM EST up reply actions  

The movie was about style, ambiance, pacing, and character development

not to mention bangin’ music if you like that kind of thing. Every scene and line went towards the development of plot, style, or character. Nothing was wasted.

by DaveAA on Jan 10, 2012 9:19 AM EST up reply actions  

Dan Silver from Grantland agrees with you
But in Drive, Gosling gives probably his best performance of the year. His character inhabits every single scene of the film, and he speaks (maybe) 60 lines of dialogue. The bulk of his performance is delivered in silence, or with a stare or a blink. It’s really quite remarkable.

by IggesRule13 on Jan 10, 2012 9:27 AM EST up reply actions  

I haven't seen this movie, so I'm not judging it...

but that isn’t really the biggest endorsement of all time.

But in Drive, Gosling gives probably his best performance of the year.

I’d like to say Hugh Jackman is awesome, but in X-Men: First Class he probably gave his best performance of the year (during the 5 second cameo). I mean, no offense to Real Steel, but…

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Jan 10, 2012 9:54 AM EST up reply actions  

Gosling has never won me over in any movie

To add to my bias against him for looking like a “california surfer dude,” and being in the notebook (which I have had to watch against my will), he just never seems to make me give a damn about any of his characters.

by IggesRule13 on Jan 10, 2012 10:33 AM EST up reply actions  

so many good gosling movie

starting with “Lars and the Real Girl” and “Stay”

by Luke E on Jan 10, 2012 7:45 PM EST up reply actions  

I haven't seen Drive yet

but I do know that what I’ve read of it reminds me of Steve McQueen’s dialog-rare movie Le Mans, which is incredibly captivating to me. Of course, Ryan Gosling is probably no Steve McQueen…

Your cannonball trajectory, it always gave me hope

by Andrew_G on Jan 10, 2012 10:04 AM EST up reply actions  

agree

just checked canIstream.it but Le Mans is not available on Netfix, Amazon, etc :(

by PhilR8 on Jan 10, 2012 10:09 AM EST up reply actions  

Damn, Netflix.

guess I’ll have to find it somewhere else.

by IggesRule13 on Jan 10, 2012 10:12 AM EST up reply actions  

I caught it on one of the movie channels a few months ago

might’ve been IFC. It’s about the 24 Hours of Le Mans race, and that’s basically all it is about, so if that’s not your thing then I take no responsibility for your pleasure or lack thereof.

Your cannonball trajectory, it always gave me hope

by Andrew_G on Jan 10, 2012 10:14 AM EST up reply actions  

I watched "Interview" last night

look it up. Just terrible. So I think I will be fine with your rec.

by IggesRule13 on Jan 10, 2012 10:27 AM EST up reply actions  

well cool!

Your cannonball trajectory, it always gave me hope

by Andrew_G on Jan 10, 2012 10:30 AM EST up reply actions  

Same here bro

I was the one that said “I really don’t get what the big deal about that flick was”. I give it a 3 out of 10 because I really didn’t give a shit about one charactar in the movie. The first 5 minutes were probably the best and then it just went downhill.

Will work for Recs.

by Wieters Wieners on Jan 10, 2012 9:13 AM EST up reply actions  

Yea, they have awesome deals.

Jerseys over there are only $20.

by IggesRule13 on Jan 10, 2012 9:33 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Nah. They went into the future to get him.
Chen had a career-high 13 wins in 27 starts, striking out 153 in 188 innings, in 2019.

Source

I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James

by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 10, 2012 9:36 AM EST up reply actions  

I have suppressed 2011

to me BM is coming off a strong 2010 and he will be the ace in 2012.

by IggesRule13 on Jan 10, 2012 10:02 AM EST up reply actions  

Only if he breaks 88mph and travels back in time to his 2010 form.

I think he got sucked into what the rest of us deal with. His metabolism went to shit (for some, this happens at 30, for others at 24) and it usually takes a year to adjust, so he got fat and lazy.

by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 10, 2012 10:08 AM EST up reply actions  

That's me.

I’m back to 25-30 mile weeks running though. Gotta get in shape for racing.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 10, 2012 10:13 AM EST up reply actions  

That is impressive to me

I am excited because I have hit 20 miles for the month total so far.

by Benhem612 on Jan 10, 2012 10:18 AM EST up reply actions  

That was me two months ago.

I want to get back to 50 mile weeks just for a few weeks in May and then taper back.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 10, 2012 10:21 AM EST up reply actions  

There's really no way around putting the miles in

to drop some lbs, short of doing those p90x type videos.

I put all my effort into the shakeweight and it hasn’t done jack.

by IggesRule13 on Jan 10, 2012 10:22 AM EST up reply actions  

:(

.

When Andino finally emerged, he looked up at the Red Sox fans filing out. "I just wanted to see them go," he says

by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 10, 2012 12:11 PM EST up reply actions  

One could say that jacking is all you can do with a shakeweight

I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James

by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 10, 2012 10:24 AM EST up reply actions  

That's impressive

I’ve been going to the gym about 5x a week for three years, and I still can’t run more than ~3 miles per run, ~3 times per week without my knees and feet going to shit. If I run more than two days in a row I’m guaranteed to hurt myself.

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 10, 2012 10:34 AM EST up reply actions  

Yep.

I generally run through pretty significant pain from my shins and knees. Had a pretty nasty problem with stress fractures back when I used to run competitively. Right now I’m only running about 4-5 times a week.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 10, 2012 10:36 AM EST up reply actions  

So do most runners deal with chronic knee pain and shin splints?

It’s not just my genetics that prevent me from getting into a serious running regimen?

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 10, 2012 10:39 AM EST up reply actions  

Yup it is a pretty chronic thing

If you read the book Born to Run they will show you one side of it. A segment of the running community has adopted minimalist running shoes because our natural running gate is changed by modern running shoes that places all the stress on the knees.

by Benhem612 on Jan 10, 2012 10:40 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, my buddy wears those shoes that have the toes on them.

So weird looking but it teaches you to put the pressure up front on the ball of your feet and not back on the heel. He said it reduces all the joint pressure but it’s hard to get used to.

Will work for Recs.

by Wieters Wieners on Jan 10, 2012 10:41 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah I couldn't quite bring myself to go with the toe shoes

but I just got a pair of semi-minimalist shoes in the Reebok Real Flex’s that encourage you to run up front but still have a slight heel. They aren’t quite minimalist but they are helping me ease into it. So far my calves have been sore but my knees have felt great.

by Benhem612 on Jan 10, 2012 10:45 AM EST up reply actions  

Sore muscles are fine. But bones are structural.

I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James

by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 10, 2012 10:46 AM EST up reply actions  

Those don't work for anyone who doesn't possess a neutral stride though.

Sure your knees will feel better, but they offer 0 support for the shin.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 10, 2012 10:47 AM EST up reply actions  

And to be honest, I'm fine with the knee pain.

I’m not fine with my shins cracking in half as they have 4 times in the past.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 10, 2012 10:49 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah I haven't had shin issues before

that sounds terribly not fun. Any advice as I up my miles?

by Benhem612 on Jan 10, 2012 10:52 AM EST up reply actions  

I've been told running at a slight incline helps prevent shin splints

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 10, 2012 10:54 AM EST up reply actions  

I really think that's a myth.

Strengthening the core will really help keep your stride in order which does wonders for the knees, shins, and ankles. Beyond that, do heel walks, incline squats, forward lunges, planks/side planks, etc.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 10, 2012 10:58 AM EST up reply actions  

Um...try not to hurt yourself?

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 10, 2012 10:55 AM EST up reply actions  

Sounds like you're just picking your poison here

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 10, 2012 10:48 AM EST up reply actions  

I think he's talking about serious mileage

conditioning yourself to run 3-5 miles 4-5x a week would be fine in my opinion.

by IggesRule13 on Jan 10, 2012 10:41 AM EST up reply actions  

Depends I think.

I have really bowed shins and a sorta funky stride, so I put some serious stress on my shins. Some of the folks I train with have completely neutral running strides and rarely, if ever, have injuries…..and they run much, much more than I do.

I’m actually kinda worried to get above 30 mile weeks because I’ve had so much trouble in the past. I want to actually be able to run the few races I signed up for this year.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 10, 2012 10:43 AM EST up reply actions  

Funny you mention shinsplints. I just got diagnosed w/them.

Ran (badly) the Philly marathon in November and then after a 2 recovery weeks tried to start ramping my mileage back up for a marathon in March, but now I have shin splints (worse in the right leg) and some weird blood vessel (not serious yet, more like varicose veins than something really bad) problem in my left leg. Treatment for both is a rest from impact sports for about a month. In a way, I’m glad…it’ll suck to have to work my way back but my legs have just felt burnt out lately anyway.

Now I have to take a month off of running. It’s been a week and I’ve gained 10 pounds already….just can’t get motivated to to get on the exercise bike, nordictrack, or in the pool.

I’ve been really lucky w/injuries. Started running when I was 30 and other than a painful but quickly recovered from flare-up of IT band syndrome last year I haven’t had much trouble till now.

by BrianS on Jan 10, 2012 3:02 PM EST up reply actions  

you give me hope as I am starting at 28

I have run here and there before but never run much regularly until last year into this year.

by Benhem612 on Jan 10, 2012 3:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Distance runners supposedly peak around 28.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 10, 2012 3:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Nah dude...you're at peak age.

Go get ’em

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 10, 2012 3:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, you’re starting at the right age. I feel like I would have been a better runner or it would have come a little easier if I’d started 2-3 years older.

Just be conservative about how you increase your distance and pace is the best advice I can give.

by BrianS on Jan 10, 2012 6:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Wow, 25-30 miles a week?

I do 12 and that’s about all I can manage. Not physically, just mentally. It’s SO FUCKING BORING.

by Holymittens on Jan 10, 2012 12:53 PM EST up reply actions  

I guess that all depends.

Find someplace with cute women and run there.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 10, 2012 12:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Is that how you scored your wife?

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 10, 2012 12:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Gym hotties are a great motivational tool

There is a HEAVY concentration of them at the gym in Canton, also the training gym of the Ravens cheerleaders

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 10, 2012 1:01 PM EST up reply actions  

One of the things I'm honestly looking forward to about starting work next week

is that i won’t be able to sit around the house and just snack all day. I’ve put a ton of weight on since graduating and having nothing to do.

by kba26 on Jan 10, 2012 10:13 AM EST up reply actions  

Don't count on it helping much

if it’s a desk job.

"Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs." -- Earl Weaver

by Vuff on Jan 10, 2012 10:17 AM EST up reply actions  

Well its not like my level of physical activity can really go down

and my diet will be better, so there should be some improvement

by kba26 on Jan 10, 2012 10:19 AM EST up reply actions  

You have no idea.

Wait until you actually start working. You’ll be amazed how bad your diet will be and how little physical activity you’ll achieve while sitting at your desk all day.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 10, 2012 10:21 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

how little physical activity you’ll achieve while sitting at your desk all day.

Sitting at a desk all day may be an improvement. I spend most days in bed or laying on the couch.

by kba26 on Jan 10, 2012 10:23 AM EST up reply actions  

It shouldn't be that bad a transition then

I went from a summer job doing stunt shows at 6 flags to my desk job. Talk about hitting the wall.

by Benhem612 on Jan 10, 2012 10:24 AM EST up reply actions  

It was the best summer job ever haha.

I was an actor and wrestler in college and one of my friends was in 6 flags singing and dancing shows and she suggested I audition. It was a great 2 summers. 4 shows a day, and a playstation in the dressing room.

I was the joker in the batman show and a goofy cowboy.

I am the one holding the board

by Benhem612 on Jan 10, 2012 10:37 AM EST up reply actions  

Awesome!

I did acting in college too. I’m a recognized actor/combatant by the society of american fight directors. At least… I think that’s still official.

by DaveAA on Jan 10, 2012 10:40 AM EST up reply actions  

haha more official than I ever was

Toughest decision ever – I got my job offer for my current employment on the same day a scout for mirage entertainment came to the park.

Option 1: Accept my current job
Option 2: Audtion to travel around China and the world doing stunt shows

I chose option 1 and have a nice settled life with stability. My friends chose option 2 and had an awesome time seeing the world.

by Benhem612 on Jan 10, 2012 10:42 AM EST up reply actions  

I saw Ka in Vegas

mind blowing experience. If Ryan Gosling could do that shit I would be his biggest fan.

by IggesRule13 on Jan 10, 2012 10:44 AM EST up reply actions  

haha I am the biggest fan of anyone

who can do that. The cirque stuff is off the wall.

by Benhem612 on Jan 10, 2012 10:47 AM EST up reply actions  

this is fantastic.

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Jan 10, 2012 10:52 AM EST up reply actions  

hahaha

that’s a hilarious picture

Tommy hunter still sucks!

by Steve. on Jan 10, 2012 11:35 AM EST up reply actions  

fun times! minus when a backup would come in

and his timing would be off, we got the most comments about realism from those shows haha.

by Benhem612 on Jan 10, 2012 12:49 PM EST up reply actions  

See, I've always found that the work week helps me maintain a healthy diet much easier.

During the work week I’m on a routine, and I can eat breakfast at the same time every day, pack a modest lunch, east dinner at the same time when i get home. Maybe my job is just not too stressful, I don’t know. It’s during the weekends that my diet goes to shit, and I eat carryout, booze, and snack on the couch all day.

I’ve read studies that have shown that high school kids with very busy schedules (after school jobs/sports/clubs) are more focused and efficient, and get higher grades despite the stress and lack of free time.

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 10, 2012 10:32 AM EST up reply actions  

That's me too

I get so annoyed with myself because I’ll spend all week with a good diet then reverse any positive effects by my lazy, crappy food eating weeken.

by Stacey on Jan 10, 2012 10:58 AM EST up reply actions  

Or,

the injury threw him off more than he expected/realized, but they kept throwing him out there anyway.

I can’t help but be optimistic for Matusz in ‘12. Unless the injury completely broke him and he’s done for good, which I doubt, I think he’s going to (pleasantly) surprise some people. His velocity went up over the ‘11 season (see FanGraphs), and after slowly losing velocity over ’09-’10, I’m hopeful that better conditioning is a higher priority for him now and makes a difference.

"Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs." -- Earl Weaver

by Vuff on Jan 10, 2012 10:17 AM EST up reply actions  

regression to the mean

we’ll see what happens. It’s really hard to pinpoint any particular reason for his horrible year and loss of velocity. You can talk about his conditioning, or his injury, or his mental preparedness, or bad fucking luck, or a bunch of other things…but there’s no way we on the outside know jack shit about what really happened or how he adjusts next year.

Your cannonball trajectory, it always gave me hope

by Andrew_G on Jan 10, 2012 10:21 AM EST up reply actions  

All true.

The injury/conditioning explanations seem most likely to me based on what we do know, but yeah, there’s a lot that we don’t know.

"Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs." -- Earl Weaver

by Vuff on Jan 10, 2012 10:27 AM EST up reply actions  

c'mon folks, THAT deserves a rec.

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Jan 10, 2012 10:49 AM EST up reply actions  

Just got an official Chen announcement from orioles.com.

Good stuff.

"Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs." -- Earl Weaver

by Vuff on Jan 10, 2012 9:32 AM EST reply actions  

Question - Related to trading Adam Jones

Now that Nick Markakis has a flesh wound, does that impact the decision to trade jones?

by Benhem612 on Jan 10, 2012 10:04 AM EST reply actions  

To me it doesn't

2012 will only be a playoff year if Tim Tebow plays 1B. So they need to hold out until AJ can bring the best haul possible. Not point is giving him up for a bunch of “maybes” just cuz Nick will be worthless all season.

by IggesRule13 on Jan 10, 2012 10:15 AM EST up reply actions  

I don't see why it should.

“Without Jones and a healthy Markakis, there’s no way we’ll be able to compete in the AL East!”

Yeah, no.

"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP

by Eat More Esskay on Jan 10, 2012 10:15 AM EST up reply actions  

Also, Markakis is on schedule to be ready by opening day right?

While we all have our doubts as to how in shape he can be by that point, declaring that we must keep Jones because of Markakis’ injury is not showing a lot of faith in him, which could open up a whole new can of worms.

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 10, 2012 10:37 AM EST up reply actions  

Roster formalities:

To make room for Chen Wei-yin on the 40-man, Kyle Hudson has been DFA’d.

At least he’ll always have game 162.

"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP

by Eat More Esskay on Jan 10, 2012 10:22 AM EST reply actions  

and you never will!

Your cannonball trajectory, it always gave me hope

by Andrew_G on Jan 10, 2012 10:31 AM EST up reply actions  

Sigh, you know whats a terrible feeling?

Going to make a sandwich and realizing your only remaining roll is moldy

by kba26 on Jan 10, 2012 10:22 AM EST reply actions  

Bake more!

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 10, 2012 10:25 AM EST up reply actions  

Eh that takes hours at least, and the sausages are already grilled

also, I’m working on packing up my kitchen stuff and don’t want to make a big mess

by kba26 on Jan 10, 2012 10:27 AM EST up reply actions  

I don't know how,

but on first reading that, my brain somehow skipped over the sandwich bit and thought you were complaining that Reimold was your only bat left on the bench.

"Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs." -- Earl Weaver

by Vuff on Jan 10, 2012 10:29 AM EST up reply actions  

And the WW internet tour continues

Youtube “I’m the juggernaut, bitch”, “read a book”, and “man angry at super mario”

When the fuck did we get ice cream???

by NSOsFan on Jan 10, 2012 10:34 AM EST reply actions  

Today I expect him to learn about Ceiling Cat.

"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP

by Eat More Esskay on Jan 10, 2012 10:36 AM EST up reply actions  

Slow down

Longcat first.

When the fuck did we get ice cream???

by NSOsFan on Jan 10, 2012 10:38 AM EST up reply actions  

He's way behind.

Somebody get him the leprechaun, and possibly some whustles going “woo woo!” stat!

by DaveAA on Jan 10, 2012 10:41 AM EST up reply actions  

Hide yo kids!

Double rainbow!

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Jan 10, 2012 11:35 AM EST up reply actions  

Just an idea for a new Internet browser, especially if you like chrome

Try “RockMelt.” It integrates social media, email, and other news sites into a quick reference guide on the side of the browser so you don’t have to devote a full page to keeping tabs on facebook/twitter/cnn/espn.

I like it.

by IggesRule13 on Jan 10, 2012 10:35 AM EST reply actions  

Help

Can someone help me out for a second. I use Stubhub like every single day at work but today when I click in to an actual game it won’t load the Java ticket map showing all the seats. I’m not sure if Stubhub had a problem but my work security is blocking the cookies (which look suspicious when I looked at the report), and despite changing all my settings I can’t get around it. Its linking to weird platformtwitter type cookies and stuff. Can someone hop on stubhub and just look at a specific game and tell me if they are having any problems at all. Or if anyone knows a possible solution, I’d really appreciate it.

Will work for Recs.

by Wieters Wieners on Jan 10, 2012 10:40 AM EST reply actions  

i just hopped on in Firefox

no problems for me

clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...

by Gamecock24 on Jan 10, 2012 10:44 AM EST up reply actions  

Hm.

Are you Army? I think I remember you being some sort of military/DoD type. Army Civilian here, and it isn’t loading for me, either.

"Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs." -- Earl Weaver

by Vuff on Jan 10, 2012 10:50 AM EST up reply actions  

Air Force

So odd. I’ve used it like everyday for years. I wonder if Stubhub changed something with their java/cookies or if they’re having a problem. I’m using I.E. (old version) because it takes them forever to upgrade us because of all the security issues they have to test.

Will work for Recs.

by Wieters Wieners on Jan 10, 2012 10:56 AM EST up reply actions  

Yep. IE7 ftw.

I hate it. In the two years I’ve been here, more and more things have stopped working properly. And it has tons of memory leaks; I have to restart IE several times a day.

"Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs." -- Earl Weaver

by Vuff on Jan 10, 2012 11:01 AM EST up reply actions  

Same here

I’m even starting to have problems with gmail and Facebook too. I wish they’d keep up.

Will work for Recs.

by Wieters Wieners on Jan 10, 2012 11:02 AM EST up reply actions  

EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEK!!!!

Besides the monopoly that is Stubhub and Ticketmaster, are there any other really popular ticket sites with less fee rapage than they hit you with?

Will work for Recs.

by Wieters Wieners on Jan 10, 2012 11:06 AM EST up reply actions  

Craigslist?

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 10, 2012 11:06 AM EST up reply actions  

Craigslist has its own kind of rape-related risks.

"Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs." -- Earl Weaver

by Vuff on Jan 10, 2012 11:10 AM EST up reply actions  

aziz ansari stand up about Craigslist.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLo3HXTW2kM&feature=youtube_gdata_player

^ hilarious

"I don't have an on-deck circle for ideas. It's just 'Batter up!!' Even though they're bad" - Mike Birbiglia

by Parkinglotninja on Jan 10, 2012 11:15 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

Its such a good special..

one of my all time favorites…

"I don't have an on-deck circle for ideas. It's just 'Batter up!!' Even though they're bad" - Mike Birbiglia

by Parkinglotninja on Jan 10, 2012 11:24 AM EST up reply actions  

The CVS one was awesome.

Which 2 don’t get the CDs????

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 10, 2012 11:27 AM EST up reply actions  

haha, thats one of my favorites

and

“Do you have a moment for gay rights?” which is by far the best one.

"I don't have an on-deck circle for ideas. It's just 'Batter up!!' Even though they're bad" - Mike Birbiglia

by Parkinglotninja on Jan 10, 2012 11:33 AM EST up reply actions  

RAAAAAANNNNNDDDDYYYYYYY!!!!

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 10, 2012 11:24 AM EST up reply actions  

So i got my orientation schedule for next week

you know you work for a big corporation when they have their own hotel

by kba26 on Jan 10, 2012 11:26 AM EST reply actions  

It's not like there's anything else up there.

They probably own the whole town.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 10, 2012 11:30 AM EST up reply actions  

Its not even in the town, its like 90 minutes away

its a 200 room hotel and conference center just for things like employee orientations

by kba26 on Jan 10, 2012 11:32 AM EST up reply actions  

I got to stay at one of those even though I live 15 minutes away from where the orientation was held.

Pretty awesome.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 10, 2012 11:34 AM EST up reply actions  

That's the limit on mine too, but nobody ever asked how far away I lived.

My future boss just sent me an email saying I had a room there starting Sunday night.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 10, 2012 11:41 AM EST up reply actions  

ha!

I know exactly the place you’re talking about. It’s in Westchester or Yonkers or something, right?

I drove past it once, and was like, “What the hell is that thing doing in the middle of nowhere”? and someone in the car said, “IBM”.

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Jan 10, 2012 1:10 PM EST up reply actions  

I once worked for a company

that had a two-week orientation in an underground mine in this town like an hour north of Pittsburgh. It was so weird.

by Stacey on Jan 10, 2012 12:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Fernando Martinez and Daniel Ray Herrera

Rotoworld.com: “According to Adam Rubin of ESPNNewYork.com, the Mets have placed former top prospect Fernando Martinez on waivers. The Mets need to clear two spots on the 40-man roster to make room for infielder Ronny Cedeno and outfielder Scott Hairston and Rubin hears that both Martinez and left-hander Daniel Ray Herrera have been placed on waivers.”

It seems like the Orioles might be able to benefit by claiming both Martinez and Herrera on waivers.

by SwampyMcGee on Jan 10, 2012 11:27 AM EST reply actions  

I am not overly familiar with waiver rules

as long as they can be sent to the minors I say do it!

by Benhem612 on Jan 10, 2012 11:30 AM EST up reply actions  

martinez...

still has an option, too.

"Three thousand years of beautiful tradition,from Moses to Sandy Koufax,YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT I'M LIVING IN THE FUCKING PAST!"- Walter Sobchak

by j.q. higgins on Jan 10, 2012 11:58 AM EST via Android app up reply actions  

it's almost certainly worth taking a flyer on Martinez

He’ll be 23, has an option remaining, tons of tools, and was considered a plus defensive centerfielder. On the minus side: his BB/K ratios are atrocious and he’s always hurt. Still, this is a guy who was a top 100 prospect for four years running, and the O’s have nothing to lose by seeing if he can turn things around.

by AndrewTorrez on Jan 10, 2012 12:09 PM EST up reply actions  

in any case...

outfield is not an area of strength in the system. couldn’t hurt!

"Three thousand years of beautiful tradition,from Moses to Sandy Koufax,YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT I'M LIVING IN THE FUCKING PAST!"- Walter Sobchak

by j.q. higgins on Jan 10, 2012 12:42 PM EST up reply actions  

this

i am totally down with claiming f-mart.

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Jan 10, 2012 12:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Google just sent me an email saying I should add 5 different people from CC to my google+

What is google+ and should I use it?

When Andino finally emerged, he looked up at the Red Sox fans filing out. "I just wanted to see them go," he says

by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 10, 2012 12:13 PM EST reply actions  

100% agree

Dumbest thing I’ve ever seen. I feel like I could design a better social networking interface doodling drunk on a napkin.

Will work for Recs.

by Wieters Wieners on Jan 10, 2012 12:19 PM EST up reply actions  

here's a commercial for the newest Android phone

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSSulYcE47Y

It uses Google+’s “circles” as the main selling point of the device.

Yet another example that Verizon is totally clueless when it comes to marketing.

by PhilR8 on Jan 10, 2012 12:22 PM EST up reply actions  

This sounds like a fun game

post your drunken bar napkin doodles each morning for comment/interpretation.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Jan 10, 2012 12:28 PM EST up reply actions  

I WILL!

This reminds me:

My best buddy Grove is the AF recruiter in Hagerstown, MD (not exactly education capitol of the world). In any case, he has people take the practice ASVAB in his office to see if they would qualify. It really is a pretty easy test and you only need a 50 to get in. They have like 30 minutes or an hour or something to take it and some scratch paper.

There is a section on there full of like 9th grade word problems (i.e. 2 trains travelling, when will they meet type of stuff). You would not believe how fucking hilarious some of these scratch sheets are. We started saving them to make a coffee table book. The best is when a kid will literally draw out the entire story so he can visualize it and try and figure out what is going on. And sometimes instead of simply multiplying. Like 75 * 9, they’ll write out 75 nine times vertically and then add it all up. It’s such a hoot. I’ll post the next funny one I see. That is, if you’re into making fun of failing high schoolers.

Will work for Recs.

by Wieters Wieners on Jan 10, 2012 12:34 PM EST up reply actions  

That is, if you’re into making fun of failing high schoolers.

You really do have so much to learn about the internet.

by kba26 on Jan 10, 2012 12:37 PM EST up reply actions  

haha sounds hilarious

Do you really have to ask if I’m into making fun of failing high schoolers? I assumed it was obvious that I’m into making fun of pretty much anybody.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Jan 10, 2012 12:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Wow...
And sometimes instead of simply multiplying. Like 75 * 9, they’ll write out 75 nine times vertically and then add it all up. It’s such a hoot. I’ll post the next funny one I see.

I’d say at least do 750 – 75, but I guess if you need to add it up that way, you aren’t good enough at math to think of that, either…

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by Vuff on Jan 10, 2012 12:38 PM EST up reply actions  

My friends

That’s why we have calculators.

Contrary to popular belief, I am not Jewish.

by DCO'sfan on Jan 10, 2012 12:52 PM EST up reply actions  

You're assuming that people in Hagerstown know what those are.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 10, 2012 12:53 PM EST up reply actions  

It's pretty out in the sticks.

Not much going on there.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 10, 2012 12:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Rich entitled kids.

Crappy chain restaurants.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 10, 2012 12:58 PM EST up reply actions  

im an hour in the sticks past hagerstown...

hagerstown makes me jealous…:(

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by Parkinglotninja on Jan 10, 2012 1:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Bazinga!

You’re also assuming they LET you use a calculator for a simple word problem.

Will work for Recs.

by Wieters Wieners on Jan 10, 2012 12:54 PM EST up reply actions  

My dad gets so mad at me when he gives me an arithmetic problem and I pull out my calculator.

He rants about how calculators were invented so people don’t have to think… well in your situation it seems rather ironic to say that.

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by DCO'sfan on Jan 10, 2012 12:57 PM EST up reply actions  

when I'm at bowling late in the evening

sometimes I’m just too tired to try and focus on doing some stupid handicap arithmetic in my head, so I whip out my phone. My 69-year-old teammate always gets a good laugh out of that.

by PhilR8 on Jan 10, 2012 12:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Where are you bowling? Salisbury?

Keep your own score? What kind of buschleague shit is that?

Will work for Recs.

by Wieters Wieners on Jan 10, 2012 12:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Stoneleigh Lanes

No automatic scoring, which I actually prefer. I can easily keep score, I just don’t have the motivation to do handicap calculations most of the time. That’s why the old dude who used to work at a bank is on my team.

This is duckpin, by the way. There are plenty of lanes with automatic duckpin scoring machines but the place I bowl at isn’t one of them. I really don’t mind.

by PhilR8 on Jan 10, 2012 1:01 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't think I've ever seen a place that had automatic duckpin scoring machines.

I have been in several bowling alleys in my life that had automated on the tenpin half but not on the duckpin half though.

"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP

by Eat More Esskay on Jan 10, 2012 1:04 PM EST up reply actions  

last time i went duckpin bowling

was about a year and a half ago at the Patterson Bowling Center, and i’m pretty sure most of their lanes were automated scoring at that point.

clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...

by Gamecock24 on Jan 10, 2012 1:05 PM EST up reply actions  

I think most places have 'em by now

I used to work at Greenmount Bowl in Hampstead and they installed automatic duckpin scorers about ten years ago. All the AMF lanes have automatic scoring.

Patterson Bowl has ‘em too but they’re just horrible. That’s kind of why I prefer scoring the old-fashioned way – really no chance of computer fuck-ups.

by PhilR8 on Jan 10, 2012 1:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Don't get me started

on kids using calculators too soon these days.

"Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs." -- Earl Weaver

by Vuff on Jan 10, 2012 12:56 PM EST up reply actions  

I didn't know people actually had to think nowadays.

That’s news to me!

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by DCO'sfan on Jan 10, 2012 12:57 PM EST up reply actions  

how soon is too soon?

When Andino finally emerged, he looked up at the Red Sox fans filing out. "I just wanted to see them go," he says

by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 10, 2012 12:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Did I walk into that one?

I felt like I walked into that one.

When Andino finally emerged, he looked up at the Red Sox fans filing out. "I just wanted to see them go," he says

by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 10, 2012 1:00 PM EST up reply actions  

If I were designing curricula,

I’d probably keep them out of math classes unless you’re doing trig or statistics, or you need the exponential function, or somesuch. Science classes can use them whenever, since you can’t design those problems to have friendly arithmetic nearly as easily.

"Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs." -- Earl Weaver

by Vuff on Jan 10, 2012 1:04 PM EST up reply actions  

But why?

It’s like learning cursive. Why? When do I need to do that in real life? When do I need to add stuff in my head that I don’t have access to a calculator?

"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.

by duck on Jan 10, 2012 1:44 PM EST up reply actions  

This!

What the FUCK is the point of cursive???

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Jan 10, 2012 1:49 PM EST up reply actions  

You can write way faster in cursive than you can regular print.

I took notes in some of my college classes in cursive because the professors didn’t come equipped with subtitles and spoke about 500 words a second.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 10, 2012 1:53 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't buy it.

I take notes constantly and have never felt the need to write in cursive.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Jan 10, 2012 1:54 PM EST up reply actions  

You're write (yes, done purposely)

But you can’t read anything you wrote if you never wrote it. When in class, it helped to be able to write quickly so you didn’t miss anything.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 10, 2012 2:49 PM EST up reply actions  

By necessity

I developed a southpaw chicken scratch shorthand for notation purposes. When trying to take notes in cursive I would always get to a z or y and get pissed off and then miss the next 20 minutes of class trying to draw them correctly.

by Benhem612 on Jan 10, 2012 3:02 PM EST up reply actions  

one of the points of cursive

is to have a unique signature.

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Jan 10, 2012 1:58 PM EST up reply actions  

by definition, all signatures are unique

cursive ones will still be harder to forge than those with block letters.

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Jan 10, 2012 2:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh, mine's unique alright

Mostly because I don’t write in cursive very well.

"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.

by duck on Jan 10, 2012 1:59 PM EST up reply actions  

I sign my name with an X!

/John Rocker’d

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 10, 2012 1:59 PM EST up reply actions  

I thought that was the point of DNA.

"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP

by Eat More Esskay on Jan 10, 2012 2:00 PM EST up reply actions  

I should show you guys a picture of my signature

One fucked up cursive “I” and a scribble and my last name is just… nothing.

Contrary to popular belief, I am not Jewish.

by DCO'sfan on Jan 10, 2012 2:00 PM EST up reply actions  

I have an excuse!

I have severe spatial relations issues and pretty bad motor problems. What’s yours?!

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by DCO'sfan on Jan 10, 2012 2:02 PM EST up reply actions  

I always just blame being left-handed.

"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP

by Eat More Esskay on Jan 10, 2012 2:04 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm left handed!

Although yea…..my signature is usually a scribble.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 10, 2012 2:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Ch with a scribble,

followed by a K with a scribble and a line that shoots back to the left

by brek on Jan 10, 2012 2:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Only thing I use it for.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Jan 10, 2012 2:15 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't have any sources to back this up

but I wouldn’t doubt theres a strong correlation between learning basic math skills and overall cognitive ability. Its not so much about being able to get the answer to the algebra problem as about forming those neural pathways in your brain.

by kba26 on Jan 10, 2012 1:49 PM EST up reply actions  

You're hiking in a canyon...

… a boulder falls on your arm and you can’t move.

What do you do?

What. Do. You. Do?

by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 10, 2012 1:50 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't worry what 477 / 3 is, I can tell you that.

"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.

by duck on Jan 10, 2012 1:54 PM EST up reply actions  

I did the math first to make sure it would divide evenly, thankyouverymuch

"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.

by duck on Jan 10, 2012 1:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Eh, you were only dividing by 3

the decimal wouldn’t have made it much tougher

by kba26 on Jan 10, 2012 1:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Hush, you. :)

"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.

by duck on Jan 10, 2012 1:58 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree that cursive has no point..

but the point of learning math is not so you can solve arithmetic problems in your head… it’s really more about learning to think logically and a calculator just doesn’t really help there.

by brek on Jan 10, 2012 1:51 PM EST up reply actions  

I disagre

My daughter is brilliant at math, but sucks at arithmetic. Seriously. She’s got a 96% in Honors Geometry, but can’t add or subtract very well at all. She gets the concepts of math. Numbers just get in the way. Why not use a calculator?

"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.

by duck on Jan 10, 2012 1:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Because you won't have your handy dandy calculator with you at every moment you'd need to use math?

Also….geometry is meh.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 10, 2012 1:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Um, yeah?

It’s called a phone.

"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.

by duck on Jan 10, 2012 1:59 PM EST up reply actions  

there is a difference between being able to do math in your head...

and being able to work out mathematical problems on paper. Sure, your daughter may not know how to calculate 477/3 in her head, but I’d be willing to bet she could work it out on paper (or at least could at some point before graduating on to higher math) without a calculator.

by brek on Jan 10, 2012 1:59 PM EST up reply actions  

somedays I can understand why people defend cursive

and some days I can’t. A lot of people on my facebook feed lament the “death” of cursive from time to time, saying it’s a part of our culture and it makes people better and blah blah blah. To be honest that argument sounds like elitist bullshit from people who are afraid of the rapid pace of change in the world today, especially when it comes to computers. There was even a discussion about someone’s signature and how it is a distinct part of their personality and how it would be a tragedy if future generations were deprived of the opportunity to cultivate a distinctive signature.

I say scrap it and teach typing.

by PhilR8 on Jan 10, 2012 1:53 PM EST up reply actions  

The only people that lament the death of cursive

are the ones who got an A+ for penmanship in elementary school and derived positive self worth from it. All the rest who were hounded about poor handwriting rejoice at its demise.

by Benhem612 on Jan 10, 2012 2:48 PM EST up reply actions  

amen to that

I distinctly remember getting reprimanded by my teacher in the third grade for poor penmanship. I had to re-write an assignment. Bleh.

by PhilR8 on Jan 10, 2012 2:52 PM EST up reply actions  

You can like cursive

without being an elitist jerk about it. I think it just looks nice, and I’d want my kids to be able to write in cursive.

That said, I can’t blame anyone who thinks it’s obsolete and pointless now that people write most things via computer now.

"Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs." -- Earl Weaver

by Vuff on Jan 10, 2012 3:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Minus one "now".

I’m clicking “post” too quickly today.

"Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs." -- Earl Weaver

by Vuff on Jan 10, 2012 3:00 PM EST up reply actions  

I write my boyfriend letters sometimes

in cursive. It’s nice to get a letter that’s not email!

by Stacey on Jan 10, 2012 3:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Heh, yeah,

love letters were the one exception I could think of when I wrote that comment. I suppose there are other things with which you want to say, “I took the time to write this nicely by hand,” (Wedding invitations? Heartfelt thank-you notes?), but they’re few and far between.

"Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs." -- Earl Weaver

by Vuff on Jan 10, 2012 3:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Those always backfired on me

My cursive “I care about you” always translated into “obviously this guy doesn’t give a crap, look at his handwriting”

by Benhem612 on Jan 10, 2012 3:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Hahaha.

Well, author discretion certainly applies.

"Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs." -- Earl Weaver

by Vuff on Jan 10, 2012 3:37 PM EST up reply actions  

My wife writes the most beautiful cursive...

… and we get all of our holiday and thank you cards from a supplier in China who does beautiful 3D cards (as in layers creating the picture, not as in fucking annoying 3D shit).

She writes all the cards in her cursive and they’re gorgeous.

by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 10, 2012 3:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Is there anything for which you don't have a supplier in China?

"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP

by Eat More Esskay on Jan 10, 2012 3:28 PM EST up reply actions  

damn...

i was looking at buying bulk watch bands this am.

"Three thousand years of beautiful tradition,from Moses to Sandy Koufax,YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT I'M LIVING IN THE FUCKING PAST!"- Walter Sobchak

by j.q. higgins on Jan 10, 2012 3:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Wait, check that.

Beer.

Chinese beer fucking sucks.

by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 10, 2012 3:29 PM EST up reply actions  

And desserts.

My youngest brother had a Chinese gf for a few years, and one year she decided to make up a traditional meal, as in not North American bastardized Chinese food. It was all amazing until she got to the dessert. Out came bowls of this greyish gravy-like substance thatw as a little bit sweet, but a lot of awful. The rest of us finished our bowls as to not offend her, because she worked for a couple of hours on the whole meal, but my father didn’t get the memo. He took a few spoonsful, looked at my mom, and sai “I’m sorry, I just can’t! I just can’t! It’s just so BAD!” You could see the poor girl’s heart crack before your eyes.

When the fuck did we get ice cream???

by NSOsFan on Jan 10, 2012 3:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Chinese cookies suck too.

They look awesome, but do not taste sweet like you’d expect.

by DaveAA on Jan 10, 2012 3:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Sweetness, in terms of sugary desert sweetness, is very rare in a lot of Asia.

On the other hand, they do seem to like sweet sauces on vegetables and meats, albeit combined with another flavor like spicy or tart.

I find most Chinese desserts to be very bland.

by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 10, 2012 3:41 PM EST up reply actions  

What's wrong with fortune cookies?

Kidding.

"Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs." -- Earl Weaver

by Vuff on Jan 10, 2012 4:01 PM EST up reply actions  

that's a great story.

I’m not a big fan of authentic Chinese food. Way too salty, MSGish.

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Jan 10, 2012 3:43 PM EST up reply actions  

I like Tsingtao

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Jan 10, 2012 4:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Dude

I love that fucking beer. Anytime I get Chinese (at a rest.) I go nuts on it.

Will work for Recs.

by Wieters Wieners on Jan 10, 2012 5:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah it's delicious.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Jan 10, 2012 5:16 PM EST up reply actions  

The grocery store, for one.

Basic math illiteracy causes a lot of problems for people economically. Being able to do some fairly simple math in your head is helpful, from buying groceries (you don’t bring a calculator here, and even if you did, you probably wouldn’t use it) to realizing “too good to be true” deals on bigger things. And it helps prevent errors when using a calculator – being able to recognize when you input something correctly because the calculator output doesn’t make sense is very, very important.

And having a good feel for math often saves time if you need a ballpark answer but you have a calculator available. Some kids are never going to be great at computation, but making sure you push kids to their limits in that department has a helpful long-term effect.

You’re an English teacher, right? You wouldn’t argue that kids shouldn’t have vocabulary lessons because they can always look things up in the dictionary.

"Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs." -- Earl Weaver

by Vuff on Jan 10, 2012 2:02 PM EST up reply actions  

That should be “input something incorrectly”.

"Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs." -- Earl Weaver

by Vuff on Jan 10, 2012 2:03 PM EST up reply actions  

he wants them getting in the crops by the time they're 10 anyway.

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Jan 10, 2012 2:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Guys, phones come with calculators

We’re not talking about abacuses here.

I teach Social Studies, by the way.

"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.

by duck on Jan 10, 2012 2:04 PM EST up reply actions  

why bother learning history, though?

I can look up anything on wikipedia in a matter of seconds!

Works on my phone too… :)

by brek on Jan 10, 2012 2:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Sure,

but would you rather pull out your phone every time you need to do any math at all, or be good enough at doing math in your head to need it relatively rarely? Think about the times you make ballpark math estimations in your head, because you don’t feel like pulling out your phone and typing it in, and then imagine never having been taught computation at all. Would you want to be that dependent on having a calculator, and want to have have to pull one out that often?

Thought you said you taught English a few days ago, but now I recall that you take off for poor grammar and such in papers despite not teaching English. Good for you, there, by the way – no sarcasm.

"Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs." -- Earl Weaver

by Vuff on Jan 10, 2012 2:10 PM EST up reply actions  

I have taught English in the past.

My current assignment is Social Studies.

And I still argue knowing how to approach a mathematical problem is a different skill set from memorizing times tables.

"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.

by duck on Jan 10, 2012 2:12 PM EST up reply actions  

How do you feel about spelling / grammar education?

Microsoft Word takes care of those well enough (not perfectly).

by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 10, 2012 2:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Ah, gotcha.

And I agree with you there – some kids are great at computation, but awful at word problems, or struggle a lot with Algebra and beyond. They’re different skills, but they tend to correlate, and they’re all at least occasionally useful in real life until you get to calculus.

"Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs." -- Earl Weaver

by Vuff on Jan 10, 2012 2:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Proper math education is definitely needed.

unfortunately due to the insistence on our children being machines, they are taught to memorize formulas and not taught to understand what the formula is expressing. Logic is very important but that is rarely taught any more.

by Benhem612 on Jan 10, 2012 2:53 PM EST up reply actions  

although it is valued here

well, locig is, anyway.

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Jan 10, 2012 3:18 PM EST up reply actions  

...and proffreading!

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Jan 10, 2012 3:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Hah. I messed up my own signature.

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Jan 10, 2012 3:21 PM EST up reply actions  

you should have prrofread it

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Jan 10, 2012 3:23 PM EST up reply actions  

That would have been the locigal course of action

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Jan 10, 2012 3:32 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't know what's better about that:

The fact that you did it to begin with, or the fact that you didn’t know for months that it was an actual quote. :)

"Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs." -- Earl Weaver

by Vuff on Jan 10, 2012 3:38 PM EST up reply actions  

sadly, i have searched for the original quote a few times

in the hopes that i was being snarky and didn’t remember it (although I’m pretty sure just screwed up).

but it seems to be lost in the vapor

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Jan 10, 2012 3:43 PM EST up reply actions  

the guy who wrote the original fanpost

deleted it after all of the mocking, so that comment disappeared with it

by Stacey on Jan 10, 2012 3:45 PM EST up reply actions  

It wasn't snarky

It was typos. That’s why I saved it for the world to look upon and ridicule.

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Jan 10, 2012 4:11 PM EST up reply actions  

well, then

um…. (mumbles) much obliged to you, sir.

::skulks away::

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Jan 10, 2012 4:27 PM EST up reply actions  

not if you want to win.

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Jan 10, 2012 5:23 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Sheeeeeeeeeeeeit

My name is “WW”

There’s no “W” in daveh.

Will work for Recs.

by Wieters Wieners on Jan 10, 2012 5:37 PM EST up reply actions  

that's not what my mom said.

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Jan 10, 2012 5:45 PM EST up reply actions  

There aren't and "wieners" in daveh either

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Jan 10, 2012 7:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Ahahaha

Parks and Rec’d

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Jan 10, 2012 7:01 PM EST up reply actions  

When I was a kid and I went shopping with my mom

If something was on sale at some percentage off, she wouldn’t buy it for me unless I could tell her how much the sale price was. A few months ago I was in the shoe store (SHUT IT) with my mom and my niece and I heard her doing the same thing.

by Stacey on Jan 10, 2012 3:00 PM EST up reply actions  

I just don't get that

What’s so much better about doing it in your head? You have to understand the concept to get the right answer on the phone/calculator.

"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.

by duck on Jan 10, 2012 3:23 PM EST up reply actions  

OK, I agree with the "My mom is always right" sentiment

I use that, too.

"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.

by duck on Jan 10, 2012 3:26 PM EST up reply actions  

There was a kid's series

in the 60’s I think where the main character was always inventing stuff. He invented a math machine that could solve his homework problems. He got in big trouble but the teacher gave him an A because he realized that the kid had to understand the math principles in order to make the machine work.

by Benhem612 on Jan 10, 2012 3:51 PM EST up reply actions  

not really

they have macros that do it for you.

or as we call them, “Apps”.

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Jan 10, 2012 3:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Convenience, man.

How about this: if your daughter were good at computation, wouldn’t you want her to develop that skill? You seem to push her a lot with softball, but I doubt she’s going to pitch for a living.

"Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs." -- Earl Weaver

by Vuff on Jan 10, 2012 3:42 PM EST up reply actions  

She'll be an astrophysicist

I’d bet money on it. And they’re allowed to use calculators.

Johns Hopkins has some Women in STEM Careers afternoon on a Sunday in March we’re going to in their Laurel facility. She LOVES science.

I have no idea where she gets that from.

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We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.

by duck on Jan 10, 2012 7:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Laurel facility?

It’s Scaggsville. There is more to Maryland than the eastern shore. You elitists over there could stand to learn about it.

That’s awesome, though. I grew up right down the road from there and a lot of the nerds in my high school (i.e. friends of mine that are smarter than me) spent a lot of time there.

by brek on Jan 10, 2012 9:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Look, it said Laurel on the poster

Kossiakoff Center
JHU Applied Physics Lab
11100 Johns Hopkins Road
Laurel, MD 20723

Hey, I’m just going off what was on the poster.

"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.

by duck on Jan 10, 2012 9:16 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah, that's technically correct.

Basically everything in south eastern Howard county can be considered Laurel.

Some people opt for the more specific sounding “North Laurel” while others stick with the old-tyme “Scaggsville”. The newer, wealthier residents fought hard and were eventually rewarded with the right to fancifully call it “Rocky Gorge”

by brek on Jan 10, 2012 9:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Hahaha.

Good for your mom.

"Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs." -- Earl Weaver

by Vuff on Jan 10, 2012 3:08 PM EST up reply actions  

the thing I really hate

is people who can’t figure out how much to tip in a restaurant. Come on, people!

by Stacey on Jan 10, 2012 3:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Haha yes this baffles me

Everyone should be able to find 10% immediately and then roughly find whatever % they want to tip. Some people will just stare dumbfounded at the check for minutes if you let them.

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 10, 2012 3:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Choo Choo!

For some reason I always start at one hundred and tell myself 20, then 50 and tell myself 10, and then 25 and then tell myself 5, and then just guess wherever in between the numbers it is.

I know how to find it but it is like my brain defaults to this awful methodology.

by Benhem612 on Jan 10, 2012 3:17 PM EST up reply actions  

it helps with places that have an 8-1/2% sales tax

double the tax, then round up to an even dollar so your server isn’t having to count out change for herself/himself.

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Jan 10, 2012 3:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Git em!

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 10, 2012 3:25 PM EST up reply actions  

actually, very rarely

if i get shitty service, i “only” tip 15%, which used to be the standard.

for regular service i tip 20, and for excellent service, 25-30.

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Jan 10, 2012 3:26 PM EST up reply actions  

8.5 X 2 = 17

I didn’t even need a calculator!

by Stacey on Jan 10, 2012 3:26 PM EST up reply actions  

but remember i was rounding up after the 17

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Jan 10, 2012 3:27 PM EST up reply actions  

well, one dollar you said

so it depends on how much the bill is I guess

by Stacey on Jan 10, 2012 3:28 PM EST up reply actions  

what i was writing there was more of a suggestion for people

i pretty much always double the pre-tax total and round up.

ergo, 20%

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by zknower on Jan 10, 2012 3:28 PM EST up reply actions  

*and divide by 10 of course.

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Jan 10, 2012 3:29 PM EST up reply actions  

I double the first number, then add one dollar to account for change on the bill

if the service is better than average I add three or four dollars. I also never tip under $5 even if the bill is low enough to justify it.

by Stacey on Jan 10, 2012 3:30 PM EST up reply actions  

I double the first number, then add one dollar to account for change on the bill

so, for a $19 tab, you’d tip $3?

cheapskate.

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Jan 10, 2012 3:31 PM EST up reply actions  

you know what I mean!

I’m a bad explainer. But a good tipper!

by Stacey on Jan 10, 2012 3:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Me too.

I always get yelled at for going over because I err on the side of caution.

by Benhem612 on Jan 10, 2012 3:52 PM EST up reply actions  

one other thing i always do

if we order something and it comes out tasting terrible—it’s stone cold or just an awful dish or whatever—and the server comps it, we’ll still tip as though it had been there. not the server’s fault the kitchen is fucking up.

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Jan 10, 2012 3:34 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't think I've ever been comped anything

other than a slice of cheesecake for my wife’s birthday last month.Is that a thing? Even when I’ve returned dishes, they just replace the dish, so I eat 20 minutes after everyone else. I’ve never gotten it for free.

"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.

by duck on Jan 10, 2012 7:58 PM EST up reply actions  

if a dish comes out and it sucks

(particularly if it’s cold and late), I have no problem telling them not to replace it or to substitue something else.

It all depends. If it’s cold (like french fries), I may order up a new one. But if it’s just bad, I’m not gonna let them give me the same thing.

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Jan 10, 2012 11:31 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm with ya here

20 is about my standard (but I drink a lot which I think should be slightly less). Good service can get 25-30. Blow me away service to the point I comment to people how great the service was could land ya 33-40+%

On the contrary, if someone is a total B (like this chick at Hooters that took 45 minutes to greet the table and didnt give a shit when I was like “so ughhhh… we’ve been trying to get a server for 45 minutes” (she was smoking…. yeah, she got exactly $0.01 (more insulting that $0.00).

Will work for Recs.

by Wieters Wieners on Jan 10, 2012 3:39 PM EST up reply actions  

They've just really let the quality of service go downhill at those Hooters haven't they?

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 10, 2012 3:42 PM EST up reply actions  

ahahahahaha

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Jan 10, 2012 3:44 PM EST up reply actions  

It's Hooters.

What exactly did you expect?

20-25 percent is my standard unless it’s great service.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 10, 2012 3:42 PM EST up reply actions  

It's what I consider FINE DINING ok?

AMIRIGHT…. HIYOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!

CMON FELLASSSS HIYOOOOOO!!!!

Will work for Recs.

by Wieters Wieners on Jan 10, 2012 3:47 PM EST up reply actions  

why does WW keep turning into a coyote?

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Jan 10, 2012 3:47 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Dang.

I’ve been trying to remember to tip 20% rather than 15% on the rare occasion I eat where it’s customary – always heard 15% growing up. I’d prefer to be a good tipper; reading this tells me I need to be better about it. :P

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by Vuff on Jan 10, 2012 3:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Service Industry

NEVER FORGET.

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 10, 2012 3:49 PM EST up reply actions  

I worked at a restaurant.

I wouldn’t even make minimum wage on some days if everyone tipped 15 percent.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 10, 2012 3:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Sounds like a good reason to get a different job

Me, I worked in retail. Long hours for the assurance of being under (yet legally acceptably) paid.

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Jan 10, 2012 4:14 PM EST up reply actions  

I always heard 20% was the standard

although I rarely go below even for bad service which is probably stupid.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Jan 10, 2012 4:20 PM EST up reply actions  

15% is still what everyone I know thinks is normal

I usually go around 20ish, but I’ve given fuck-you tips of 5-10% for terrible service.

by PhilR8 on Jan 10, 2012 4:23 PM EST up reply actions  

I can't ever remember giving a fuck you tip

I’m such a pussy about that sort of thing.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Jan 10, 2012 4:56 PM EST up reply actions  

He knits wool hats for kittens!

When the fuck did we get ice cream???

by NSOsFan on Jan 10, 2012 5:49 PM EST up reply actions  

haha

I’m just very uncomfortable tipping poorly.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Jan 10, 2012 6:03 PM EST up reply actions  

If I feel like I'm getting completely disrespected for some reason.

And not just like “I got double sat and have a lot of tables and I’m trying”. I don’t get mad about a busy server doing what she can. Its when my beer is empty for 20 minutes while she is standing there talking on the phone to her bf or something stupid.

When I was a server, I always made sure I nailed the takeoff and landing. If you start off good and end well (don’t make them wait for the check… the final impression before they fill out your tip), you’ll do alright.

Will work for Recs.

by Wieters Wieners on Jan 10, 2012 6:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh yeah

I think a shitty tip is totally warranted now and then – I think I have serious concerns about people (even strangers) thinking I’m cheap though. It really doesn’t make any sense.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Jan 10, 2012 6:48 PM EST up reply actions  

I always imagine

It’d go something like:

“Here’s your bill Mr. OsFan21”

“Thanks”
(scribbles 50 cent tip on a $33.86 bill, glares at waitress)

“B, b, buuuut why Mr. OsFan21?!?”

“Cuz’ FUCK YOU, THATS WHY!!”

Will work for Recs.

by Wieters Wieners on Jan 10, 2012 6:52 PM EST up reply actions  

haha

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Jan 10, 2012 9:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Huh.

If you’re good at interpolating, that’s actually a very nice method.

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by Vuff on Jan 10, 2012 3:24 PM EST up reply actions  

A kid at king's college

handed me one of those after he finished destroying me in a wrestling match in college.

by Benhem612 on Jan 10, 2012 3:54 PM EST up reply actions  

College wrestling?

Shit, dude, that’s legit. Them boys don’t play, even at D-III.

"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.

by duck on Jan 10, 2012 8:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Funny story.

I went out to dinner (at Ledo’s, which I miss) with my best friend and his wife. When the waiter brought the bill, his wife started to get her phone out. My best friend told her to wait, and turned to me. I told them the approximate tip right away, and she just looked at me (maybe said “wow” or something), almost mystified. (For the record: she’s not a ditz or anything.)

It really isn’t hard.
1. Figure out 10%.
2. Tipping 15%? Divide it in half, and then add it to the 10% amount.
2. Tipping 20%? Double it.

"Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs." -- Earl Weaver

by Vuff on Jan 10, 2012 3:22 PM EST up reply actions  

i nearly always tip 20

to make up for the assholes who undertip.

/former waiter

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Jan 10, 2012 3:24 PM EST up reply actions  

yes they do

although i’ve never known why exactly

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Jan 10, 2012 3:26 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't know either

But when I used to wait tables I was always happy when I got some New Yorkers. I was never happy when I got teachers. I don’t think I ever got any New York teachers, so I don’t know how that would balance out.

by Stacey on Jan 10, 2012 3:29 PM EST up reply actions  

i think it's because a lot of teachers don't know how to do math in their head ;P

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Jan 10, 2012 3:30 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I kind of thought

15% tipping disappeared with the 90’s. I assumed it’s been 20% standard for some time now.

by Benhem612 on Jan 10, 2012 3:55 PM EST up reply actions  

I'd say 18% is a reasonable rule nowadays.

This seems to be the standard auto-gratuity for large parties.

Will work for Recs.

by Wieters Wieners on Jan 10, 2012 3:56 PM EST up reply actions  

I always shake my head at the 18 auto

Most groups I am with end up tipping higher because they don’t feel like breaking bills.

by Benhem612 on Jan 10, 2012 4:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Caught me away from my PC for 4 hours

Nice.

"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.

by duck on Jan 10, 2012 8:01 PM EST up reply actions  

One thing I noticed while trucking

Truck drivers are cheapass tippers as they’ll tip a dollar on every meal, no matter what they get for it, and always a quarter for coffee. It must piss some waiters off to see someone get a 35 dollar meal only to get tipped a buck. Hell, it pissed ME off watching it. I usually try for like 30-50% on a reasonably priced meal, closer to the 50% if I thought they were exceptional.

When the fuck did we get ice cream???

by NSOsFan on Jan 10, 2012 3:31 PM EST up reply actions  

A dollar a meal is cheap

but logically, tipping based on the value of the meal never made much sense to me. The effort is the same on the server’s part regardless of how much the food on the plate costs.

by kba26 on Jan 10, 2012 3:33 PM EST up reply actions  

not at all

servers in fine dining restaurants have a lot more to do, and require more skills, than those in diners.

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Jan 10, 2012 3:35 PM EST up reply actions  

That doesn't change the fact

that if I order $11 chicken or $20 steak at Outback they’re doing the same job.

I still tip well, but I get the point.

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Jan 10, 2012 3:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Well restaurant to restaurant it would be different

but within a single restaurant, the server isn’t doing more work if i order a more expensive steak. It would seem more fair to tip on the average price of a meal rather than what you specifically ordered, but I’m not sure how to make a system like that work.

by kba26 on Jan 10, 2012 3:37 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't know about that

There are usually people do to everything else for you in finer restaurants. In crappy restaurants you’re waiting tables, bussing, running food, etc.

Of course those people have to tip out a lot more.

by Stacey on Jan 10, 2012 3:37 PM EST up reply actions  

in finer restaurants you have to know a lot more about service.

you also usually need to know a lot mroe about the food, wine pairings, etc.

to attract that kind of employee, they need to make better tips. hence the percentage scale, i think.

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Jan 10, 2012 3:45 PM EST up reply actions  

This is part of the reason I hate the tipping system (I do tip really well).

Just pay servers comensurate to their effort and the job requirements, and leave tips for exceptional service.

by kba26 on Jan 10, 2012 3:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Just to jump into this whole thing,

What was the scene in Reservoir Dogs where they talk about tipping?
Also, I tip pretty well whenever I go someplace or at least donate to the tip if I am with someone who is footing the whole bill, but is it bad that I tip extra if a waitress flirts with me? Does that make me a bad person?

When Andino finally emerged, he looked up at the Red Sox fans filing out. "I just wanted to see them go," he says

by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 10, 2012 3:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Eh, I can live with that.

When Andino finally emerged, he looked up at the Red Sox fans filing out. "I just wanted to see them go," he says

by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 10, 2012 3:55 PM EST up reply actions  

not that gullible

When Andino finally emerged, he looked up at the Red Sox fans filing out. "I just wanted to see them go," he says

by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 10, 2012 3:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Of course...but if she's cute, I don't care.

She’s using her resources to better her situation.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 10, 2012 3:56 PM EST up reply actions  

i just heard

that if a waitress adds a smiley face to her check, it increases her tip by 9% on average.

so flirting works both ways.

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Jan 10, 2012 4:00 PM EST up reply actions  

don’t be sucka for calculated flirting.

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Jan 10, 2012 3:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Maybe a bit of a sucker...

Hell no it doesnt! It’s part of the experience and that’s what you’re tipping on.

I always worked the same bar with this one hot blonde chick and we would pimp each other out like crazy. She’d send groups of girls my way and I wouldn’t lift a finger to serve a group of single guys unless she was really in the weeds and couldn’t get to them.

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 10, 2012 3:53 PM EST up reply actions  

this

i used to tell our hostess to seat me with any table that was a large group of girls, cause i would make more money off of them than any of our female servers.

i remember one night during a Ravens game i had a table of like 4 girls ordering me shots every time they scored. it’s great to get paid to get drunk.

clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...

by Gamecock24 on Jan 10, 2012 3:54 PM EST up reply actions  

This is why I stayed at my bartending job for so long

I was working 9-5 in Baltimore and driving down to DC on the weekends to bartend for a solid year. Everyone thought I was crazy.

it’s great to get paid to get drunk.

That and the dozens of single college girls that were funneled in my direction every Friday and Saturday night.

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 10, 2012 3:58 PM EST up reply actions  

no

just means she’s doing her job

clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...

by Gamecock24 on Jan 10, 2012 3:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Not at all.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 10, 2012 3:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah but come on...

We all aren’t ritzy hoity-toits going out to fine dining a couple times a week. I’d imagine most people are hitting up a good sports bar or casual restaraunt with friends.

Will work for Recs.

by Wieters Wieners on Jan 10, 2012 3:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah it's asking a lot for people to think like that though

The bar I worked at was an absolute dive, and naturally I thought that when people weren’t happy with their food or we were out of their 1st-3rd drink choice. But I couldn’t hate on a bad tip after all of that.

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 10, 2012 3:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Yup that's what I was getting at

And yeah I’ve seen some very smart friends struggle with it. I think it’s a left-brain/right-brain thing

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 10, 2012 3:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Three times the tax, add more if I'm feeling generous.

Done.

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by Eat More Esskay on Jan 10, 2012 3:31 PM EST up reply actions  

How much do people tip on carry out?

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Jan 10, 2012 3:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Who tips on carry out?

"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP

by Eat More Esskay on Jan 10, 2012 3:35 PM EST up reply actions  

birdman's mom

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Jan 10, 2012 3:36 PM EST up reply actions  

At Outback, I noticed they give you dirty looks if you don’t tip on carry out. I usually only tip one or two bucks, but I wasn’t quite if I was being a cheap ass. I guess servers take turns on carry out duty so they expect a tip.

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Jan 10, 2012 3:41 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah i think it depends on the place

at the place i used to work at, the hostesses would take the order, the servers would bag the food, and the bartenders would make the payment transaction. so it’s kinda hard to split a buck or two between 3 different people, so we just usually gave it to the hostess since they got paid shit.

clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...

by Gamecock24 on Jan 10, 2012 3:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Good point

If I pick it up at the cash register and there’s a tip jar there it’s easy to put a buck or two in, but if you pick it up from a bartender what do you do? These rules could use more definition

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 10, 2012 3:48 PM EST up reply actions  

fuck them

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Jan 10, 2012 4:41 PM EST up reply actions  

discuss

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Jan 10, 2012 4:50 PM EST up reply actions  

i don't tip anything on carry out

for delivery, it’s a pretty standard $5

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Jan 10, 2012 3:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Me too, although last year I tipped a guy $20

because it was snowing and he had to leave his car one street over and walk to my house.

by Stacey on Jan 10, 2012 3:36 PM EST up reply actions  

nicely done

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Jan 10, 2012 3:36 PM EST up reply actions  

That was a crappy night

My boyfriend and I were supposed to be having dinner at Capital Grille and then going to Center Stage and I was all excited and then it was snowing all day and I couldn’t get any cabs to come my house and we finally decided to just bag the whole thing and I was so cranky and then he says to me, “So are you cooking dinner?”

by Stacey on Jan 10, 2012 3:42 PM EST up reply actions  

wow

and you’re still dating? ;)

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Jan 10, 2012 3:46 PM EST up reply actions  

He's lucky to still be alive after that comment

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Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.

by duck on Jan 10, 2012 8:04 PM EST up reply actions  

My ex-boyfriend says to me, "So are you cooking dinner?

"Work fast. Throw strikes. Change speeds." Ray Miller

by Zeke McGeek on Jan 10, 2012 3:47 PM EST up reply actions  

I do tip if they bring the food order out to your car.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 10, 2012 3:39 PM EST up reply actions  

I live next door to a Outback and Joe's Crab

so I just walk up. That’s another one of my techniques of neutralization I use to justify my crappy tip.

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Jan 10, 2012 3:48 PM EST up reply actions  

I'll leave a buck on carry out

I rarely get delivery, like twice a year maybe, but $5 seems like a lot

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 10, 2012 3:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Wait, what?

"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.

by duck on Jan 10, 2012 8:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Let's bring this thread back to the left a little bit...

What does everyone tip cab drivers? Never been clear on this.

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 10, 2012 3:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes.

I don’t take cabs often but I usually do tip as long as they don’t fuck with my fare, drive it up or anything. If I order a cab and it’s late though, no tip.

When Andino finally emerged, he looked up at the Red Sox fans filing out. "I just wanted to see them go," he says

by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 10, 2012 3:56 PM EST up reply actions  

i usually just try and round up to the next five dollar increment

but if they’re entertaining/not shady i’ll usually throw em another buck or two

clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...

by Gamecock24 on Jan 10, 2012 3:58 PM EST up reply actions  

for short rides around town

I usually round up and then add a dollar

by kba26 on Jan 10, 2012 3:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Well

now that they have credit card machines by me they give you either 15%/20%/25% options.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Jan 10, 2012 4:51 PM EST up reply actions  

I generally give a buck or 2

but I’m also generally only getting a couple drinks, maybe tots.

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Jan 10, 2012 9:36 PM EST up reply actions  

And here's my thinking:

I really shouldn’t be using my calculator to solve 35 × 4, whereas I should be using my calculator to find confidence intervals and do hypothesis testing.

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by DCO'sfan on Jan 10, 2012 1:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Someone just took a Stat class!

When Andino finally emerged, he looked up at the Red Sox fans filing out. "I just wanted to see them go," he says

by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 10, 2012 1:06 PM EST up reply actions  

yep

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 10, 2012 1:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Still in it for seven more days.

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by DCO'sfan on Jan 10, 2012 1:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Perhaps

It’s the only math I’ve ever liked, although I’m still lost on the subject of sabermetrics…

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by DCO'sfan on Jan 10, 2012 1:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Ugh

Stat was the first math class I didn’t like.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Jan 10, 2012 1:50 PM EST up reply actions  

I should be more specific

It’s the only math class I’ve gotten an A in.

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by DCO'sfan on Jan 10, 2012 1:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Yea....stats was boring.

Easy, but boring.

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by twistedlogic on Jan 10, 2012 1:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Boring?

If you want to talk about boring, trig is fucking awful. It helps to have a good teacher.

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by DCO'sfan on Jan 10, 2012 1:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Trig is easy as shit.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 10, 2012 1:58 PM EST up reply actions  

LIES!

"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.

by duck on Jan 10, 2012 1:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Not for me.

Stats is way easier than Trig, and much less boring. I’ll never use trig a day in my life. I might actually use statistics.

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by DCO'sfan on Jan 10, 2012 1:59 PM EST up reply actions  

True.

I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James

by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 10, 2012 2:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Stats is way easier.

Both are easy. And I have used far more trig in my current job than stats.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 10, 2012 2:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Well I'm not gonna be an engineer!

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by DCO'sfan on Jan 10, 2012 2:02 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm not doing anything remotely engineering related.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 10, 2012 2:03 PM EST up reply actions  

I thought you were an engineer

My bad.

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by DCO'sfan on Jan 10, 2012 2:04 PM EST up reply actions  

I am.

My job doesn’t require use of any of those skills however. It’s actually kinda sad and doesn’t make me happy.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 10, 2012 2:05 PM EST up reply actions  

I was told there would be no math.

way overdue

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 10, 2012 2:04 PM EST up reply actions  

It's being referred to as one thing, which makes "is" okay.

The course is statistics (or stats). The course being one thing.

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by twistedlogic on Jan 10, 2012 2:09 PM EST up reply actions  

i know, but it's so grating to read in my head

Your cannonball trajectory, it always gave me hope

by Andrew_G on Jan 10, 2012 2:09 PM EST up reply actions  

If it's occuring in your head...

… you probably are the only person bothered by it.

by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 10, 2012 2:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Really?

I’m trying to even remember what trig is beyond sin/cos/tan. Always seemed like the most eclectic mix of stuff.

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by Vuff on Jan 10, 2012 2:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Ha, wow.

Just looked it up, and strictly defined, trig is just sin/cos/tan and their applications. I guess that explains why it’s usually part of a broader pre-calc course now, but “trig” is still the shorthand.

"Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs." -- Earl Weaver

by Vuff on Jan 10, 2012 2:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, its very specifically the geometry of triangles

so it has few direct practical applications, but it forms the foundation for a lot of more advanced calculations.

by kba26 on Jan 10, 2012 2:29 PM EST up reply actions  

The officially name for my class last year was Pre-Calc

But my teacher spent half the year on reviewing Algebra II and the other half trying (unsuccessfully) to teach us trigonometry. Everyone bombed their final. That says something, doesn’t it?

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by DCO'sfan on Jan 10, 2012 4:07 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't think I can comment

without duck getting all fired up. ;P

"Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs." -- Earl Weaver

by Vuff on Jan 10, 2012 4:52 PM EST up reply actions  

I think I teach a different clientele

I end all my Friday classes with “Stay safe, don’t get arrested, and be sure to meet your PO on time.”

Seriously.

"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.

by duck on Jan 10, 2012 8:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Trig in action right there.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 10, 2012 2:06 PM EST up reply actions  

I'd say physics, myself.

"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.

by duck on Jan 10, 2012 2:13 PM EST up reply actions  

I'd disagree.

Calculus is the base for mechanical physics.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 10, 2012 2:14 PM EST up reply actions  

I had an Asian professor

and could not understand a single word she said. I figured eh whatever I’ll follow in the book and go to recitation. I go to the first day of recitation and the dude is from some Eastern European country and I can’t understand a word he’s saying. Outcome? My only collegiate C and I had to do some shady things to even pull that off.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Jan 10, 2012 1:56 PM EST up reply actions  

hahahaha I had the same thing.

It was great that his lectures were straight out of the book. I just read what they wrote and I was fine. Couldn’t understand a word Tao or whatever his name was said.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 10, 2012 1:59 PM EST up reply actions  

I was really worried about failing that class

During the final the proctor left the room for a few minutes and I was just asking random people for help. haha

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Jan 10, 2012 2:19 PM EST up reply actions  

did anyone help?

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Jan 10, 2012 2:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Eh

Not as much as I would have liked.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Jan 10, 2012 2:32 PM EST up reply actions  

I got 2 C's in college, and they were both in Spanish

That asshole spoke Spanish! How am I supposed to understand that shit?

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Jan 10, 2012 3:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh man

Spanish was a great GPA booster for me – took it all through high school and then did shitty on the college test so I got to take 3 semester of it with at least an A every time.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Jan 10, 2012 4:52 PM EST up reply actions  

That shit kept me from high honors

I took it since 6th grade. I just couldn’t grasp it well enough from being in class and refused to study it because I hated it so. So I got Cs and dealt with it.

But in college… man, fuck that guy. I had it to a point where the teacher promised I wouldn’t leave the class with less than a B no matter how I did on the final. I had a C show up on the report card and when I tried to contact him found out he was let go and some other asshole tallied the grades. I hate Spanish.

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Jan 10, 2012 7:07 PM EST up reply actions  

I was one of many I didn't like

"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.

by duck on Jan 10, 2012 1:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Remember all the fun & frivolity calculus provided?

"You should put the secret group of people that you carry with you on your tech equipment second to the person you're sitting with."

- Merrill Markoe

by sluggo 2.0 on Jan 10, 2012 3:31 PM EST up reply actions  

I swear, if I wasn't on a work machine....

"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.

by duck on Jan 10, 2012 3:32 PM EST up reply actions  

So remember,

you can’t blame you drinking ALL on my influence.

"You should put the secret group of people that you carry with you on your tech equipment second to the person you're sitting with."

- Merrill Markoe

by sluggo 2.0 on Jan 10, 2012 4:16 PM EST up reply actions  

That's "your" (starting early myself today)

"You should put the secret group of people that you carry with you on your tech equipment second to the person you're sitting with."

- Merrill Markoe

by sluggo 2.0 on Jan 10, 2012 4:17 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm fairly certain I've shared that particular anecdote more than once on here

"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.

by duck on Jan 10, 2012 8:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Taking all my AP Calc credits in college was my single biggest mistake academically

I was in way over my head freshman year and bombed most of my math classes. If i had just declined the credit and started with material i had already been introduced to, my grades would have been much better and there would have been much less pressure on me right from the beginning.

by kba26 on Jan 10, 2012 3:35 PM EST up reply actions  

AP Calc was the first time I had any real trouble with math.

Took BC without AB first. All the homework was ungraded, and since it was ungraded, they assigned a lot. I didn’t really have the time for it (three other APs and significant extracurriculars), so I usually ended up skipping Calc homework, which didn’t help. I think I still ended up with a B most quarters and got a 3 on the exam, but I was glad to retake it in college. Much easier the second time around.

"Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs." -- Earl Weaver

by Vuff on Jan 10, 2012 4:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Well...

I work for a company that does statistical research for the federal government. If you’re ever interested in an internship (Rockville), let me know.

by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 10, 2012 1:51 PM EST up reply actions  

A lot of the Navy is obsessed with Lean 6

something beyond the 1 week of statistics they give you in greenbelt training would be useful.

by Benhem612 on Jan 10, 2012 2:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, the Army too, it seems.

The adaptation of (Lean) Six Sigma to non-manufacturing environments is incredibly stupid, in my opinion.

"Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs." -- Earl Weaver

by Vuff on Jan 10, 2012 3:12 PM EST up reply actions  

My opinion as well

Business week had a great article on how it almost killed 3M because they tried to apply lean 6 sigma to how their scientists came up with new and innovative products.

by Benhem612 on Jan 10, 2012 3:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Sounds about right.

Making innovation go through lengthy, tedious, standardized processes just guarantees that it’ll get bogged down somewhere in most cases, and generally turns the idea people off. Much better to have a flexible enough organization that you can implement new ideas rapidly.

"Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs." -- Earl Weaver

by Vuff on Jan 10, 2012 3:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Ugh.

Can’t imagine anyone wanting to do that.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 10, 2012 1:22 PM EST up reply actions  

I hate to disappoint you WW,

but there is already a pretty hilarious coffee table book about scratch sheets.

Maybe you could do something else with them?

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Jan 10, 2012 1:21 PM EST up reply actions  

bwahahahahahaha

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Jan 10, 2012 1:22 PM EST up reply actions  

We're having a resurgence of jokes from 2006 here on Camden Chat.

Next thing you know, Chris Ray will be striding out to get the save.

"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP

by Eat More Esskay on Jan 10, 2012 1:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Soccer Mom Butt!

"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.

by duck on Jan 10, 2012 1:50 PM EST up reply actions  

*blow the save

When Andino finally emerged, he looked up at the Red Sox fans filing out. "I just wanted to see them go," he says

by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 10, 2012 3:31 PM EST up reply actions  

i think you should really take a look at the book

you’ll enjoy it.

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Jan 10, 2012 1:23 PM EST up reply actions  

pretty much!

different version of the same thing.

Goddamn your work blocking you. :(

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Jan 10, 2012 1:28 PM EST up reply actions  

It seems like Facebook without the dumb shit except it hasn't reached critical mass of people using it yet.

I am about as guilty of the “sign up and never look at again” thing as anyone.

"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP

by Eat More Esskay on Jan 10, 2012 12:43 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't see it ever reaching critical mass

Facebook did such an amazing job with that. I think when I first joined facebook we were only the 4th school to have access to it or something, but literally overnight every single one of my friends was on it and the vast majority of the school was on it within a week. Google+ has been dragging on for a while now with nothing close to critical mass and it’s a cycle of why would I join when there isn’t critical mass preventing critical mass.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Jan 10, 2012 12:45 PM EST up reply actions  

This will go the way of Google Buzz soon

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 10, 2012 12:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Google Wave

I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James

by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 10, 2012 1:09 PM EST up reply actions  

I just don't feel like having to figure out which friends go into which circles.

I’m happy enough just putting out a status and saying “hey, if you like it… great… if not, there’s the unfriend button”. I guess I like the idea of it more than the idea of actually sorting EVERY stinkin’ person out. And some people are in multiple circles etc. It’s not pretty either to say the least. Facebook has enough of a headstart I can see Google just scrapping it eventually like they did with Buzz.

Will work for Recs.

by Wieters Wieners on Jan 10, 2012 12:46 PM EST up reply actions  

The only useful thing to me is that I synced it with my phone

and now it auto uploads the pictures I take to a private album, so I can send them if I want to. Useless other than that.

by DaveAA on Jan 10, 2012 12:17 PM EST up reply actions  

That is pretty useful

I have the same thing set up for my Windows Phone – every picture I take is uploaded to a private SkyDrive folder and then I can share it from there if I want.

If I ever left Sprint and no longer had unlimited data, I’d probably turn that feature off, or at least set it to wait until I was connected to a wifi network.

by PhilR8 on Jan 10, 2012 12:20 PM EST up reply actions  

its like facebook, except...

you can put ppl into “circles” and limit who can see what. for example:

you can set the circle “ex girlfiends” to not see certain statuses/current relationship information, etc.

it has useful services and you should check it out, but I don’t think ppl are abandoning their facebook for it.

by IggesRule13 on Jan 10, 2012 12:19 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah... I actually think it's kind of nice,

the unfortunate thing is that no one is really using it right now. But that’s how facebook was at first too (for me and my friends at least)… I had an account for probably a year before I started using it regularly.

I’ve heard Google+ is trying to find a balance between facebook and twitter. Facebook is largely dominated by people you have met in real life, whereas Twitter has a much larger “internet” culture too it.

by brek on Jan 10, 2012 12:32 PM EST up reply actions  

I know a few people who abandoned Facebook for it

But not enough that I did. So I just basically lost contact with those people. I don’t have time to pay attention to more than one social networking site.

by Holymittens on Jan 10, 2012 1:23 PM EST up reply actions  

haha, love me some Kristen Bell

http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/ba5fd32f31/kristen-bell-s-body-of-lies?playlist=featured_videos

When Andino finally emerged, he looked up at the Red Sox fans filing out. "I just wanted to see them go," he says

by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 10, 2012 12:34 PM EST reply actions  

haha

that’s pretty funny

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Jan 10, 2012 12:41 PM EST up reply actions  

She was one of my picks in the hottie bracket.

Made it past the first round, beat WW’s Nicole Scherzinger if I recall.

When Andino finally emerged, he looked up at the Red Sox fans filing out. "I just wanted to see them go," he says

by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 10, 2012 12:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Travesty

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 10, 2012 12:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Not at all.

When Andino finally emerged, he looked up at the Red Sox fans filing out. "I just wanted to see them go," he says

by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 10, 2012 12:58 PM EST up reply actions  

For reals....

Nicole shoulda won the damn thing.

Will work for Recs.

by Wieters Wieners on Jan 10, 2012 12:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Negatory.

We found about 50 hotter chicks in the “didn’t even make the bracket” list.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 10, 2012 12:58 PM EST up reply actions  

seriously

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Jan 10, 2012 1:29 PM EST up reply actions  

the duality of man!

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Jan 10, 2012 12:57 PM EST up reply actions  

The first episode of her new show was meh

but they could get it turned around into something decent

by kba26 on Jan 10, 2012 1:01 PM EST up reply actions  

''Insert gear here''

That’s a dick joke. hahaha

Say no to Prince Fielder in 2012.

by Knubles and Bits on Jan 10, 2012 4:33 PM EST up reply actions  

What the fucking fuck was that?

I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James

by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 10, 2012 1:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Law's blurb on Chen from his free agent rankings

Since it’s a blurb, I figure it’s alright to quote even though it’s paid content.

Chen was born in Taiwan but has pitched in Japan’s NPB for several years. He’s had good results, but a decline in his stuff this year probably will limit his market.

He had been sitting low 90s and touching 95 in past years but was more 88-92 early in 2011, and his slider didn’t have its usual bite. By the end of the year, he was back up to 92-94 and the slider was sharper, so MLB teams’ interest might depend on when in the year they saw him. He has a decent split-change that should make him more than just a lefty specialist, although it’s not an out pitch for him. Chen still has plus control, with 31 walks in 164 2/3 innings this year for Chunichi, but after striking out more than 21 percent of the hitters he faced in his first three full seasons in NPB, his strikeout rate dropped to 14 percent this year. He is only 25 and offers more upside than the typical NPB refugee, both due to age and the chance for the slider to become a consistently plus pitch.

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Jan 10, 2012 1:00 PM EST reply actions  

Also,

his inconsistent velocity is a bit worrisome. And he’s walking into an organization that already seems to foster this problem. Not a combo. Otherwise, I like this signing.

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Jan 10, 2012 1:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah,

but gaining vrather than losing velocity over the course of a season makes me a lot less worried about that.

"Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs." -- Earl Weaver

by Vuff on Jan 10, 2012 1:33 PM EST up reply actions  

...Weird typo.

"Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs." -- Earl Weaver

by Vuff on Jan 10, 2012 1:33 PM EST up reply actions  

At least it's on the upswing though.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Jan 10, 2012 1:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Jim Duquette

mentioned on XM this morning that he signed guys as a GM who presented themselves one way during the negotiation period and then went off of steroids and became a completely different player. Who is Jimbo referring to? Raffy?

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Jan 10, 2012 1:03 PM EST reply actions  

Jay Gibbons would be my guess here.

"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP

by Eat More Esskay on Jan 10, 2012 1:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Larry Bigbie

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 10, 2012 1:06 PM EST up reply actions  

He never signed a multi-year contract though.

"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP

by Eat More Esskay on Jan 10, 2012 1:08 PM EST up reply actions  

True.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 10, 2012 1:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Javy Lopez.

Miguel Tejada
David Segui

When Andino finally emerged, he looked up at the Red Sox fans filing out. "I just wanted to see them go," he says

by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 10, 2012 1:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Miggy did pretty as an O's (or Os or whatever).

Segui was a Thift signing. Javy is a good choice.

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Jan 10, 2012 1:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Tejada slugged .515 in 2005 and .498 in 2006.

His career high was .534 in 2004.

He definitely fell off, but I don’t know if it was a lack of roids so much as age. Of course, if roids were a continuing option without testing, maybe he would have had more years before the power went away.

"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP

by Eat More Esskay on Jan 10, 2012 1:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Kind of small decline though?

You would expect some decline with aging.

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Jan 10, 2012 1:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Aging's even more of a bitch when you age two years overnight.

"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP

by Eat More Esskay on Jan 10, 2012 1:28 PM EST up reply actions  

You hold your tongue!

David Segui was my boy

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 10, 2012 1:10 PM EST up reply actions  

I loved him too

Still do, but he did a bad thing.

When Andino finally emerged, he looked up at the Red Sox fans filing out. "I just wanted to see them go," he says

by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 10, 2012 1:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Let's see...

Javy’s 2003 (Atlanta, age 32): .328/.378/.687
2004 (Baltimore, age 33): .316/.370/.503
2005 (Baltimore, age 34): .278/.322/.458
2006 (Baltimore/Boston, age 35): .251/.297/.386

So that’s a career year out of nowhere, down to merely a high level, down to a decent level, and then off the cliff. On the other hand we’re also talking about a catcher’s body hitting the mid-30s.

"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP

by Eat More Esskay on Jan 10, 2012 1:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes, great choice.

I can’t believe I forgot about Gibby.

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Jan 10, 2012 1:11 PM EST up reply actions  

my first orioles game in person

i saw jay gibbons rip the deepest home run ive ever seen. it was magic!

i know i shouldnt, but i miss that guy…

"I don't have an on-deck circle for ideas. It's just 'Batter up!!' Even though they're bad" - Mike Birbiglia

by Parkinglotninja on Jan 10, 2012 1:19 PM EST up reply actions  

He got $11.9M in totally dead money from the O's for '08 and '09 combined.

Of course, MacPhail would have just used that money to sign an overpriced reliever, so whatever.

"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP

by Eat More Esskay on Jan 10, 2012 1:23 PM EST up reply actions  

the nerve of them

, they could have at least waited until he traded them to someone else

by Benhem612 on Jan 10, 2012 1:09 PM EST up reply actions  

seems like a strange lament

I just was wondering in what context he presented that information.

by PhilR8 on Jan 10, 2012 1:10 PM EST up reply actions  

He didn’t seem happy. But Jimbo is such a nice guy that it’s hard to tell.

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Jan 10, 2012 1:11 PM EST up reply actions  

risk? i'm really bored today

clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...

by Gamecock24 on Jan 10, 2012 1:24 PM EST reply actions  

YOWZA

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Jan 10, 2012 1:25 PM EST up reply actions  

is your one at the bottom ok?

clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...

by Gamecock24 on Jan 10, 2012 1:32 PM EST up reply actions  

no,

use zknower {at} earthlink {dot} net

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Jan 10, 2012 1:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Yep.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 10, 2012 1:26 PM EST up reply actions  

email?

clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...

by Gamecock24 on Jan 10, 2012 1:31 PM EST up reply actions  

email?

Contrary to popular belief, I am not Jewish.

by DCO'sfan on Jan 10, 2012 1:31 PM EST up reply actions  

would it be easier if i set it up?

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Jan 10, 2012 1:32 PM EST up reply actions  

probably

clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...

by Gamecock24 on Jan 10, 2012 1:33 PM EST up reply actions  

haha

ok, i’ll do it, and i’ll use the randomizer.

hang on a sec……

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Jan 10, 2012 1:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah

It feels good.

Contrary to popular belief, I am not Jewish.

by DCO'sfan on Jan 10, 2012 1:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Game is UP

I got screwed by the randomizer

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Jan 10, 2012 1:37 PM EST up reply actions  

I will be getting my own office at some point (hopefully) soon...

Then Risk will be ON.

Shortly thereafter, I will be fired and the process will repeat.

Circle of life.

by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 10, 2012 1:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Van Halen

This has reached Willie Mays w/ the Mets level. Give it up guys. Good to see Diamond Dave back if only for unintentional comedy purposes.

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Jan 10, 2012 1:26 PM EST reply actions  

It ain't VH without Michael Anthony

I know he just played the four same notes in every song, but it ain’t a full reunion without him.

"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.

by duck on Jan 10, 2012 1:52 PM EST up reply actions  

his backup vocals...

were a stealth weapon of classic vh.

"Three thousand years of beautiful tradition,from Moses to Sandy Koufax,YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT I'M LIVING IN THE FUCKING PAST!"- Walter Sobchak

by j.q. higgins on Jan 10, 2012 2:22 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

He's with hagar now isn't he?

Lord help me, most of the times I do like Van Hagar better, minus Dreams. Anthony made Poundcake heavier, and therefore better.

When the fuck did we get ice cream???

by NSOsFan on Jan 10, 2012 2:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Diamond Dave is back for now.

Who knows how long he’ll last, which only underscores their unintended self-mockery. That song is fucking awful. AWFUL. I fully expect them to play around stonehenges at their next show.

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Jan 10, 2012 3:02 PM EST up reply actions  

i just heard it for the first time on the radio at work

complete and utter garbage…ugh…

"I don't have an on-deck circle for ideas. It's just 'Batter up!!' Even though they're bad" - Mike Birbiglia

by Parkinglotninja on Jan 10, 2012 3:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Ergh

I hate laptops! I got my battery replaced recently, and the charge still only lasts about an hour. I’m thinking this may be a hard drive problem.

Contrary to popular belief, I am not Jewish.

by DCO'sfan on Jan 10, 2012 1:47 PM EST reply actions  

It would more likely be the proccesor or the fan.

I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James

by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 10, 2012 1:49 PM EST up reply actions  

could be a heatsink issue..

"I don't have an on-deck circle for ideas. It's just 'Batter up!!' Even though they're bad" - Mike Birbiglia

by Parkinglotninja on Jan 10, 2012 1:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Have you tried dropping it from space to fix it?

iPad survives 100,000 foot drop.

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 10, 2012 1:55 PM EST up reply actions  

That's so fake

But hilarious.

Contrary to popular belief, I am not Jewish.

by DCO'sfan on Jan 10, 2012 4:15 PM EST up reply actions  

yes they did!

"Three thousand years of beautiful tradition,from Moses to Sandy Koufax,YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT I'M LIVING IN THE FUCKING PAST!"- Walter Sobchak

by j.q. higgins on Jan 10, 2012 4:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Heh....Sam Calgione of DFH goes off on the morons of the beer world.

He’s right too. Link.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 10, 2012 2:50 PM EST reply actions  

good for him

I don’t care if a beer brand grows. It is what companies do and a brewery can’t depend on their small micro brew remaining an underground fad forever. They need to take strides to grow. I have no qualms with his post.

I was however, upset that clipper city decided that they had to remove all regional charm from their name and srcub all of baltimore out of their beers. I understand the pirate fad and the heavy seas branding was pretty cool but Clipper City Brewing was also cool branding.

by Benhem612 on Jan 10, 2012 3:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Couldn't agree with Sam more...

What do I care if a beer company makes one bottle or one million bottles? All I care is if the bottle in my hand tastes good.

Dogfish Head makes beer that tastes damn good.

I want craft brewers to make up 90% of the market, not 5%. I want easier access to great unique beers.

by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 10, 2012 3:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Zk,

Got the beans today, they look awesome. I haven’t had a chance to try them yet, but when I do I will let you know. Thank you!

When Andino finally emerged, he looked up at the Red Sox fans filing out. "I just wanted to see them go," he says

by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 10, 2012 3:37 PM EST reply actions  

You're welcome.

more to come!

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Jan 10, 2012 3:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Pfft.

Cursive and math are much more interesting.

"Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs." -- Earl Weaver

by Vuff on Jan 10, 2012 4:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Risk anyone?

No more class pour moi. Did you guys already do a game?

When Andino finally emerged, he looked up at the Red Sox fans filing out. "I just wanted to see them go," he says

by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 10, 2012 4:03 PM EST reply actions  

I'd be in

but we’re getting close to 5

by kba26 on Jan 10, 2012 4:04 PM EST up reply actions  

East Coast'd

Westie has a sad.

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 10, 2012 4:07 PM EST up reply actions  

I does has a sad.

East Coast + Employment = No risk :(

When Andino finally emerged, he looked up at the Red Sox fans filing out. "I just wanted to see them go," he says

by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 10, 2012 4:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh no....it has nothing to do with employment.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 10, 2012 4:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Nah...I'm going to work out in about 20 minutes.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 10, 2012 4:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Ok, I'm gonna go ahead and post the NH Primary Thread a little early.

When Andino finally emerged, he looked up at the Red Sox fans filing out. "I just wanted to see them go," he says

by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 10, 2012 4:22 PM EST reply actions  

Phillies talking to Accardo

Poor bastards don’t own TVs.

When the fuck did we get ice cream???

by NSOsFan on Jan 10, 2012 4:43 PM EST reply actions  

wait up...

can you imagine? accardo and bastardo in the same pen? priceless!

"Three thousand years of beautiful tradition,from Moses to Sandy Koufax,YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT I'M LIVING IN THE FUCKING PAST!"- Walter Sobchak

by j.q. higgins on Jan 10, 2012 4:49 PM EST up reply actions  

And Andy will have to wait to sweater-vest the Commisioner's office

Looks like the voted Seilg another 2 years. $22 million a year. Holy shit.

When the fuck did we get ice cream???

by NSOsFan on Jan 10, 2012 4:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Greggzalez'd

When they look up from the gutter where their dreams have gone to die they will see only orange and black. -EME

by The Josh on Jan 10, 2012 5:32 PM EST up reply actions  

David Cross on Conan was golden.

When Andino finally emerged, he looked up at the Red Sox fans filing out. "I just wanted to see them go," he says

by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 10, 2012 4:47 PM EST reply actions  

david cross is a superhero..

"I don't have an on-deck circle for ideas. It's just 'Batter up!!' Even though they're bad" - Mike Birbiglia

by Parkinglotninja on Jan 10, 2012 6:11 PM EST up reply actions  

David Cross is a fucking asshole

"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.

by duck on Jan 10, 2012 10:50 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

It's because he bashed Larry the Cable Guy, isn't it?

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Jan 11, 2012 7:03 AM EST up reply actions  

Well, yeah.

Dude came across as an elitist, city-livin’ snob.

"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.

by duck on Jan 11, 2012 10:16 AM EST up reply actions  

Never saw an episode of Mr. Show or Arrested Development

but Todd Margaret had me on the floor. Seriously, it was like seeing Fawlty Towers for the 1st time.

"You should put the secret group of people that you carry with you on your tech equipment second to the person you're sitting with."

- Merrill Markoe

by sluggo 2.0 on Jan 11, 2012 10:53 AM EST up reply actions  

Here's what he said
“It’s a lot of anti-gay, racist humor — which people like in America — all couched in ’I’m telling it like it is.’ He’s in the right place at the right time for that gee-shucks, proud-to-be-a-redneck, I’m-just-a-straight-shooter-multimillionaire-in-cutoff-flannel-selling-ring-tones act. That’s where we are as a nation now. We’re in a state of vague American values and anti-intellectual pride.”

I don’t think that’s all that far off from the truth.

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Jan 11, 2012 3:17 PM EST up reply actions  

This is really dumb.

Not a Rick Roll. I promise.

You can pay extra to paraglide with a hawk SOMEWHERE IN YOUR VICINITY!!!

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Jan 10, 2012 5:11 PM EST reply actions  

For those of you who are able to get Sportstalk 980

Amber Theoharis is on The Sports Reporter with my two favorite Andy Pollin and Steve Czaban, right now as of 5:18 pm est, tuesday evening.

"Tragedy is what happens to me. Comedy is what happens to you." -Mel Brooks

by jobe on Jan 10, 2012 5:19 PM EST reply actions  

From Fangraphs prospect chat
Comment From Rick
Zach Britton – bounce back or bust?

He will be fine and is likely to have a long, solid career. However, he’s still more of a sinker guy than strikeout artist so that will probably limit his upside to mid-rotation guy.

I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James

by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 10, 2012 5:21 PM EST reply actions  

Another
Comment From Dan
You mentioned Parker Bridwell earlier. What are your thoughts regarding him? Potential ceiling?

He’s a target for me in 2012 in Delmarva. That team should be awfully interesting with Bundy, Delmonico, Bridwell and others.

I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James

by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 10, 2012 5:25 PM EST up reply actions  

One more
Comment From Delta
What is a reasonable price from the Braves for Adam Jones?

Cameron made strong points the other day in his piece and I was surprised at just how strong the comp list was. if the Orioles demanded Randall Delgado for Jones, I’d pull the trigger, but I probably wouldn’t be willing to give much more.

I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James

by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 10, 2012 5:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Ah, HELLS YEAH!!!!

"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.

by duck on Jan 10, 2012 8:06 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm such an out of date nerd

I’ve been rickrolling the shit out of anyone and everyone I can find for the past 24 hours.

Will work for Recs.

by Wieters Wieners on Jan 10, 2012 5:50 PM EST reply actions  

So think about your masterpiece
RIck Roll everyone,
Call to see if daveh can score some weed

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Jan 10, 2012 6:20 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I never have and never will smoke weed

I do, however, love Ben Folds. Thus, you get a rec.

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Jan 10, 2012 7:09 PM EST up reply actions  

but you could score it, right?

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Jan 10, 2012 11:33 PM EST up reply actions  

I'd give it a 7.5, but I'm an unqualified judge

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Jan 11, 2012 7:04 AM EST up reply actions  

Well, I thought about the Army...

"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.

by duck on Jan 10, 2012 8:07 PM EST up reply actions  

You must be high.

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Jan 10, 2012 8:13 PM EST up reply actions  

That's what my dad said.

"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.

by duck on Jan 10, 2012 8:14 PM EST up reply actions  

son.

"Three thousand years of beautiful tradition,from Moses to Sandy Koufax,YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT I'M LIVING IN THE FUCKING PAST!"- Walter Sobchak

by j.q. higgins on Jan 10, 2012 8:14 PM EST up reply actions  

fucking.

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Jan 10, 2012 11:33 PM EST up reply actions  

son fucking?

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Jan 11, 2012 7:04 AM EST up reply actions  

Say

WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!??!!?

Will work for Recs.

by Wieters Wieners on Jan 10, 2012 6:26 PM EST up reply actions  

So, I actually BOUGHT Deep Purple's "Made In Japan"

so my son could listen to the organ solos.

Happy, people? I PAID FOR MUSIC!!!!!

"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.

by duck on Jan 10, 2012 8:07 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

methinks Rick Perry is dropping out

When Andino finally emerged, he looked up at the Red Sox fans filing out. "I just wanted to see them go," he says

by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 10, 2012 8:11 PM EST reply actions  

what??

1 out of every 200 people is voting for him! what’s not to like about that?

by Luke E on Jan 10, 2012 8:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Early primaries are all about managing expectations

considering where he’s been, 17% is pretty good. Good enough to treat like a victory.

by kba26 on Jan 10, 2012 9:43 PM EST up reply actions  

It's shit.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Jan 10, 2012 9:49 PM EST up reply actions  

It's actually pretty damn good.

Considering he was basically considered the 7th candidate in this election. To get close to Rick S, Newt, and Perry combined is a huge victory for him. It might be enough to give future Romney voters (moderate republicans) think twice and look towards Huntsman.

When Andino finally emerged, he looked up at the Red Sox fans filing out. "I just wanted to see them go," he says

by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 10, 2012 10:10 PM EST up reply actions  

none of it really matters

with everyone staying in the race, the anti-Romney vote will be fractured in South Carolina, meaning Romney will win there, too. It’s over.

by AndrewTorrez on Jan 10, 2012 10:46 PM EST up reply actions  

its been over since before Iowa

Its a matter of how soon the rest of the candidates admit it and let Romney focus on Obama. The more primaries Romney wins only by a plurality, the longer that will take.

by kba26 on Jan 10, 2012 10:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Well it's only good

if you don’t take into account that he skipped Iowa outright and spent zero dollars there so that he could bombard NH.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Jan 10, 2012 10:52 PM EST up reply actions  

eh, Iowa didn't even matter.

Only 5.4% of eligible voters voted. It was a smart choice.
Either way I think that he should be pleased with his overall outcome. He proved he was one of the more sane candidates and he did that with a lot less political experience than the rest of them. I think he has set himself up for deep presidential runs in the future.

When Andino finally emerged, he looked up at the Red Sox fans filing out. "I just wanted to see them go," he says

by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 10, 2012 11:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Well sure

but if everybody else had done that he would have gotten blown out of the water.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Jan 10, 2012 11:16 PM EST up reply actions  

reposting what I saw on teh Twitter

“With 5% in, results are oligarch, silver dime guy, guy who speaks Mandarin, the asshole, the other asshole, and the dumb guy.”

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Jan 10, 2012 11:34 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

hahaha that's awesome

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Jan 11, 2012 1:58 AM EST up reply actions  

Brit tweets that JJ is staying in the pen.

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Jan 10, 2012 8:25 PM EST reply actions  

And KLaw turns down the Stros and stays with ESPN. The snark will continue!

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Jan 10, 2012 8:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Wise decision.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Jan 10, 2012 9:24 PM EST up reply actions  

um what.

My new roommate went to sleep an hour ago. Who goes to sleep at 7?

When Andino finally emerged, he looked up at the Red Sox fans filing out. "I just wanted to see them go," he says

by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 10, 2012 11:08 PM EST reply actions  

He's gotta be on the drugs

Maybe abusing painkillers? Keep an eye on that. Even losers don’t go to bed that early.

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 10, 2012 11:16 PM EST up reply actions  

He just woke up for a second and gave me a dirty look like I woke him up or some shit.

When Andino finally emerged, he looked up at the Red Sox fans filing out. "I just wanted to see them go," he says

by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 10, 2012 11:18 PM EST up reply actions  

You know what they say about prison

Kick someone’s ass on the first day or become their bitch

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 10, 2012 11:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Already established myself as head of the room,

by vetoing his request for putting up a candle. I was here last term and he just moved into the room, so he has to run everything by me before he makes any alterations.

When Andino finally emerged, he looked up at the Red Sox fans filing out. "I just wanted to see them go," he says

by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 10, 2012 11:37 PM EST up reply actions  

My roommate last year dropped out in October.

Unlike you I got to have the room to myself for the whole year.

by ahoque24 on Jan 10, 2012 11:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, I had about 2 insanely great weeks

and Finals. I got to move all my crap to the other side I could walk around, I could bring people into my room whenever I wanted, I could have room for my microwave and my 360. Then I got an email over winter break saying that they were gonna charge me 600 extra dollars unless I let another person move in.

When Andino finally emerged, he looked up at the Red Sox fans filing out. "I just wanted to see them go," he says

by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 10, 2012 11:43 PM EST up reply actions  

I'd rather hear that you've established yourself as head of some chick's room

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 10, 2012 11:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Haha, I'm working on this cute chick who works in the mailroom, but I have never seen her elsewhere.

Please send me lots of mail! Or I will just keep buying clothes and shoes everyday (that’s a bit of an exaggeration).

When Andino finally emerged, he looked up at the Red Sox fans filing out. "I just wanted to see them go," he says

by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 10, 2012 11:46 PM EST up reply actions  

i could try to make the boxes fancier

impress her a bit

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Jan 11, 2012 12:58 AM EST up reply actions  

Address from "mini penis enlargement corp"

That should close the deal

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Jan 11, 2012 7:07 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm leaving team Dave.

When Andino finally emerged, he looked up at the Red Sox fans filing out. "I just wanted to see them go," he says

by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 11, 2012 12:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Awww...

Listen, if I don’t go out on a limb from time to time, how am I gonna earn enough recs to feed this family?

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Jan 11, 2012 3:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Why don't you just go in there when you don't have any mail?

“Hey, when are you off today? We should go do (low-pressure casual environment getting-to-know-you thing).”

She does at least know your name by now, right?

"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP

by Eat More Esskay on Jan 11, 2012 1:17 AM EST up reply actions  

"low-pressure casual environment getting-to-know-you thing"
I have these great coffee beans being exported from Los Angeles. Would you like me to whip up a delicious Macchiato while we discus bike lanes?

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Jan 11, 2012 1:26 AM EST up reply actions  

Dude....you've been killing me with the spelling mistakes lately.

A discus is something heavy you throw at a track meet.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 11, 2012 8:56 AM EST up reply actions  

tl. soon to be discus.

When the fuck did we get ice cream???

by NSOsFan on Jan 11, 2012 9:56 AM EST up reply actions  

If you pulled that shit with me, you'd better believe I'd never say a single thing to you before I made alterations.

Nobody gives a shit that you were there last term.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 11, 2012 8:55 AM EST up reply actions  

Billy Eichner about to be on Conan

His show is hilarious, should be cool…and loud

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 10, 2012 11:17 PM EST reply actions  

Whatever enjoyment he creates

will be canceled out by the preceding appearance of Chelsea Handler.

When Andino finally emerged, he looked up at the Red Sox fans filing out. "I just wanted to see them go," he says

by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 10, 2012 11:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Ryan Madson to the Reds

Stop the presses

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 10, 2012 11:35 PM EST reply actions  

boras really fucked up

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Jan 11, 2012 1:26 AM EST up reply actions  

This makes me smile

he's no pedro strop! - j.q. higgins

by fishoutawata on Jan 11, 2012 10:39 AM EST up reply actions  

Ok, I watched House of Lies, it's decent but needs some work.

I have no problem watching Kristen Bell get a lap dance from a (female) stripper though.

When Andino finally emerged, he looked up at the Red Sox fans filing out. "I just wanted to see them go," he says

by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 10, 2012 11:47 PM EST reply actions  

Wei-Yin Chen

The deal has a club option for the 4th year at $4.75 M.

Said Chen:

"I am extremely excited about this opportunity to challenge the major leagues and begin the next chapter of my professional baseball career. I am thankful for the support of my family, my fans, the Chunichi Dragons and Baltimore Orioles organizations, which allowed me to continue to pursue my dream. I will do my best to help the Orioles to the championship."

So, nobody told him who he signed with yet?

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Jan 11, 2012 1:24 AM EST reply actions  

Poor soul. He has no idea what he got into.

Also, if he’s any good there’s no way he’s around for the third year of his contract.

I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James

by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 11, 2012 1:55 AM EST up reply actions  

Wow

4th year option at 4.75 – he’ll have to really suck to not be a bargain at that price.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Jan 11, 2012 1:59 AM EST up reply actions  

More likely:
I will do my best to get the Orioles a decent return when I demand to be traded off this already sunken ship

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Jan 11, 2012 3:19 PM EST up reply actions  

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